In short
The panel argues about Newcastle’s transfer saga as Alexander Isak joins Liverpool, debating whether Newcastle demanded £150m, how Isak’s strike/behavior affected the fee, and whether Newcastle handled selling for less (around £130m/£110m figures mentioned) and replacing him well. They also rank Premier League clubs’ transfer windows, discuss other deadline-day rumors, and review weekend matches (Man City losing to Brighton; West Ham beating Nottingham Forest 3-0; Everton’s attacking form; VAR controversies; Sunderland results; Spurs/Bournemouth; Villa struggling).
Guests
The episode is hosted by Reev, Thea Baker, and Tom Garratt, with Lewis Bowden appearing as a frequent co-panelist. No other guests are clearly introduced.
Guest backgrounds
No formal football credentials are stated in the transcript; they present as Premier League-focused commentators with strong opinions and “Newcastle sources” referenced by Lewis.
Key claims
Isak’s strike (and not refusing to play) is said to be what forced Newcastle to accept a lower price; Liverpool’s communication is debated. Newcastle’s earlier bids and reported valuations are criticized as inconsistent. VAR decisions are heavily criticized, especially offside/handball-type rulings and a Fulham goal disallowed after a Josh King-related incident.
Notable examples
Isak/Liverpool fee dispute; Strand Larsson vs other cases (transfer-request/strike hypocrisy argument); City vs Brighton (Milner scoring); West Ham 3-0 Forest; Fulham vs Chelsea VAR disallowing a young player’s goal; Everton’s Grealish/Gibbs-White/Beto-style attacking link play.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOInitial Reactions and News
0:22 to 1:18
Hosts share initial reactions and news regarding player transfers.
“And before we start, Lewis Bowden just said to Tom Garratt off camera, take a chill pill.”
Debate on Isaac's Transfer Value
1:18 to 3:00
Discussion about the potential transfer value of Isaac and conflicting opinions.
“Mate, you've been adamant on that the whole fucking window, aren't you?”
Liverpool's Strategy and Player Sentiment
3:00 to 4:40
Exploration of Liverpool's approach to player transfers and Isaac's feelings.
“We're willing to get you, but you're going to have to do everything you can to get out of the club.”
Communication and Negotiation Breakdown
4:40 to 6:40
Hosts analyze the communication issues surrounding Isaac's transfer and its implications.
“You mentioned Just about, well, no, what Liverpool have done is they've told Isak to, we've had a bid reject to them.”
Comparisons of Transfer Cases
6:40 to 8:10
Comparative analysis of Isaac's situation with other players like Strand Larson.
“throughout this entire transfer window, they've been fucking wrong.”
Hypocrisy and Opinions on Transfers
8:10 to 9:50
Discussion on the hypocrisy in opinions regarding player transfers.
“We just haven't been able to get the deal over.”
Final Thoughts on Transfer Strategies
9:50 to 12:00
Closing thoughts on transfer strategies and how clubs manage player sentiment.
“Strand Larson would rather live in Wolverhampton than Newcastle.”
Other Transfer News and Wrap-up
12:00 to 14:01
Brief mentions of other transfer news and concluding the episode.
“But that's different to going, I really want to go there.”
Transfer Talk: Isak and Other Moves
14:01 to 16:46
Discussion about player transfers including Isak, Martinez, and Donnarumma.
“look, I would like to leave, but I'm not going to cause any shit.”
Weekend Premier League Recap
16:47 to 17:51
Recap of recent Premier League matches, focusing on City and Brighton's performances.
“Is there any resentment towards your Newcastle sources that have put you in the shit for the last three months?”
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Analysis of City’s Struggles
17:52 to 20:07
In-depth analysis of Manchester City's recent struggles in the league.
“Brighton were very, especially in the second half.”
West Ham vs. Nottingham Forest Review
20:08 to 22:35
Review of West Ham's strong performance against Nottingham Forest.
“how they don't want him to go but I don't know if he's doing Liverpool need a centre-back.”
Fan Reactions and Social Media
22:36 to 25:11
Discussion about the reactions from fans on social media and typical Twitter outrage.
“All the money you've spent in the summer and West Ham, West Ham, one of the worst teams in the Premier League this season have gone there and done you.”
Everton's Future Prospects
25:12 to 28:01
Exploration of Everton's performance and potential this season.
“to that tweet that's weird that's from Mr.”
Player Performance Discussion
28:01 to 28:40
Analyze the performance and appearance of specific players during a match.
“he didn't play that well either like off the pitch did you not see him in the game?”
Manchester United's Recent Match
28:41 to 30:05
Debate the quality of Manchester United's performance against Burnley.
“They should have put them to bed in the first half.”
VAR Controversies
30:06 to 32:02
Discuss the implications and frustrations surrounding VAR decisions in recent matches.
“Actually, United got two injuries in that game.”
Referee Decisions and Accountability
32:03 to 35:01
Explore the challenges referees face in making decisions and the impact of VAR on their authority.
“Some of his arm is off, but you can't score with your arm.”
Fulham's Disallowed Goal Debate
35:02 to 36:15
Analyze a controversial disallowed goal for Fulham and its impact on the match.
“Everything used to be, and I'm not trying to be nostalgic, but benefit of the doubt for the attacker.”
Sunderland's Season Prospects
36:16 to 37:36
Discuss Sunderland's chances of staying up in the league and their recent performance.
“And we don't want to re-referee the game.”
Transfer Window Talk: Players and Predictions
37:37 to 39:48
Debate recent transfers, including the impact of new signings like Javi Simmonds.
“His wife gave birth and it was his birthday and he scored.”
Aston Villa's Struggles
39:49 to 42:01
Examine Aston Villa's poor start to the season and potential coaching changes.
“They reckon they're coming in for Asensio again, which doesn't make any sense.”
Transfer Window Buzz
42:01 to 43:17
Discussion around recent transfer activity and player movements.
“Oh, just in time for our next segment as well, which is pretty class.”
Liverpool vs Arsenal Match Analysis
43:18 to 45:06
Analyzing the performance and tactics in the recent Liverpool vs Arsenal game.
“Yet another player on their books on about 200 grand a week.”
Arteta's Tactical Choices Questioned
45:07 to 47:59
Debate over Arteta's strategy and team selection affecting Arsenal's chances.
“And you will never, this is what, no, no, I haven't finished though, I haven't finished.”
Expectations vs Reality for Arsenal
48:00 to 50:32
Discussing the expectations of Arsenal fans versus the team's performance.
“You don't know, but by not losing, half of those, you're unbeaten in what, 22 games against the top six.”
Injuries and Squad Depth Assessment
50:33 to 51:49
Evaluating how injuries impact squad performance and depth.
“should have ended with a clean sheet in that game.”
Looking Ahead: Key Matches for Arsenal
51:50 to 53:07
Predictions and analysis of upcoming matches that will affect Arsenal's season.
“We've got Forest, Champions League, City, Port Vale, Newcastle, Olympia.”
Transfer Window Wrap-Up
53:08 to 56:00
A light-hearted wrap-up of transfer window activity and team assessments.
“I think you play for set pieces now, which is like crazy.”
Wolves Transfer Analysis
56:00 to 58:00
Discussion on Wolves' recent signings and player retention strategies.
“But now today, I think Liverpool might have won it again.”
West Ham's New Players
58:00 to 1:00:20
Evaluation of West Ham's transfer activity and player performances.
“The ball got played over the top and I went, fucking hell.”
Sunderland's Transfer Strategy
1:00:20 to 1:02:30
Discussion on Sunderland's aggressive transfer strategy and its implications.
“is it not an A I mean Simmons Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus I think that's, yeah, that's a really good win there.”
Assessment of Newcastle's Transfers
1:02:30 to 1:04:40
Analyzing Newcastle's transfer window and overall improvements.
“Like you said, there'll be wage deduction clauses and shit.”
Manchester United's Transfer Moves
1:04:40 to 1:07:10
Exploring Manchester United's recent signings and departures.
“You've tried, you've actually gone from last to A.”
Liverpool's Transfer Window Evaluation
1:07:10 to 1:10:00
Critical evaluation of Liverpool's transfer window and player performances.
“But it's funny, before the season started, everyone was like, these signings are great.”
Evaluating Kerk's Signing and Solanke's Career
1:10:00 to 1:13:23
Discussion about the potential impact of Kerk's signing for Bournemouth and comparisons to Solanke's career.
“let's go through it though So, Kerk is a good signing.”
Liverpool's Transfer Strategy and Spending
1:13:24 to 1:16:40
Analyzing Liverpool's transfer strategy, spending patterns, and the impact of recent signings.
“They've broken the British transfer record twice in two months.”
Transfer Assessment of Various Teams
1:16:41 to 1:20:21
Rating and discussing the transfer windows of several teams, including Everton, Fulham, and others.
“there's two Spurs put them in I thought it was Crystal Palace put them in a ooh Ooh, that's an interesting one.”
Arsenal's Transfer Window Debate
1:20:22 to 1:23:54
A heated debate on Arsenal's transfer window performance and comparisons to rival teams.
“Keller have very good experience, I guess.”
Debating Transfer Windows
1:24:00 to 1:32:30
The hosts engage in a heated discussion on the quality of recent transfers by various Premier League clubs.
“Same way you get plus points for a good signing.”
Building the Ultimate Premier League Team
1:32:30 to 1:38:00
The hosts collaboratively build their ultimate Premier League team for the 25/26 season, debating player choices.
“We're going to build our ultimate Premier League 11 of 25-26, but the maximum one player per team stipulation is in order.”
Player Injury Discussion
1:38:00 to 1:38:36
The hosts discuss a player's injury status and exchange opinions on various players.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Theo:Welcome to a new episode of Pitchside with me, Reev, Thea Baker and Tom Garratt.
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0:19Reev:Let's get into it. Welcome back to Pitchside, everyone. And before we start, Lewis Bowden just said to Tom Garratt off camera, take a chill pill. What does that mean? Can we get a live reaction from you there? Can we get a diagnosis? As you can see, Tom's very excited. You seem very agitated.
0:37Lewis Bowden:Guys, who's the angry one today? Oh, you are living, mate. So nibbling. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That wasn't, by the way. I don't even care. I just got some really bad news at 2am.
0:49Theo:I woke up since I got notifications on. I'm not even talking.
0:51Lewis Bowden:I want him to leave. It's a cold response.
0:54Theo:Rumour has it that you stayed up until you saw the here we go. Yeah. I was surprised to wake up straight away to here we go. I thought there would be a bit more of a push and pull. That can't be right.
1:02Lewis Bowden:No, it can't be. They're 125 million. Louis said they will not accept below 150 million. And he knows the ins and outs of Newcastle. Jamie and men are prepped. That can't be right. That can't be right.
1:13Reev:That was true. You did say you won't go for anything less than 150. The thing is, I didn't anticipate Isaac going on strike, which apparently works pretty well. Mate, you've been adamant on that the whole fucking window, aren't you? Yeah, even when he was on strike. It's not true. It's not true. What this show's become is you saying I said stuff, which I didn't, and then like, shouting at me over.
1:32Theo:It's a good job this is recording and recording me. No, I said it before he went on strike. I said it before he went on strike.
1:37Lewis Bowden:No, no, no, he's on strike and he's clean. Even if like, you're saying just sell him, it's like 120 million. It's like, no, we could get 150 million for him. No, you can't. No, you can't. Because no one in the world is offering you that. Yeah, not now, man. I love the way you go, we could get 150 million. So why is no one offering it? Yeah. Because he's not worth it. Tom, because they're trying to, they want us to do what you're suggesting. Unset the play. He's unhappy. Okay, we'll sell him. He's not worth 150 million. You've been saying he won't go for less than 150 million. This clip has not hit.
2:05Lewis Bowden:I've literally said we won 150 million. And I said, and they want us to drop the price. You said he won't leave for less than 150 million? You said that before that as well? Can I speak? You have said that. Can I speak? On that clip there, I said he'd go for 150 million. And what they're trying to do is get us to drop the price by making the play unhappy. And it worked. Hang about.
2:22Reev:Liverpool have not made easy, I can't happy. Why have Liverpool made him unhappy? I don't care. Isaac has been in communication with the agent and the club. And he knows that. It can't be Liverpool's fault. It's not Liverpool's fault that Isaac's unhappy. Liverpool know if they waited out and hold an unhappy player with an unhappy player and you waited out, the price will have to drop. If you go this far over, go on a strike.
2:44Theo:But surely Isaac's not unhappy with the result if he's paid five million out of his own pocket to make the transfer. He wanted to get out.
2:49Reev:Lewis, you can't say. Wait, is that true? Yeah, he's paid five million out of his pocket. He's passed on his loyalty bonus Which he's fucking sure He's fucking sure Wait but look
3:00Lewis Bowden:Is he really that Of anything didn't he I said a few times Is he really that shit of me
3:05Reev:It's not great You can't say Liverpool Are the ones that made Izaak unhappy are you Let's be honest That's unfair to him They've only made one bid No so Again You literally said that
3:14Lewis Bowden:10 seconds ago I'm not saying Liverpool Have made I've made Izaak unhappy Liverpool have registered interest And then they've obviously Made a communication And saying Look you need to do your side of this. We're willing to get you, but you're going to have to do everything you can to get out of the club. And that has dropped the price. Look at that fucking smile. This is so overreacting here. This is MI6. This is so boring.
3:38Theo:Alexander Ezek, if you choose to accept this mission, we will sign you for 130 million on the last day of the track by window. The mission will self-destruct. We need you to go and strike for the next three weeks. That clip that you pulled up, that you bigged up loads, just hasn't landed at all. in how you expected to. You're shouting at me over stuff, but I haven't said it. Last week, you were talking about him being phased back into the team. Because that wasn't, again, because, again, last week, it was an option. Last week, even a few days ago, before we signed a replacement striker, it looked like there was no striker for us to sign.
4:13It looked like he was going to be stayed.
4:15Lewis Bowden:And now you're signing the best striker in Germany. There's lots of things you can laugh at me about, but you're laughing at all the things that are just a bit silly here. Because last week It was a completely Different scenario We didn't have a striker We had no one coming in Exactly That's why When you pull up a clip From a month ago A few weeks ago It looks silly In the comments That's why you shouldn't speak Like everything you say Is definitely going to happen Where do they speak Definitely that's going to happen The whole way through You have done it You've just said it then About like Liverpool are in setting the plan Because I know They've spoke to him And told him to No you don't do that Again That's not what I said there That's not what I said there Whatever you just said Whatever you just said To make it sound like And I know this and that.
4:52So what did you say then? What did you say then, Just? No, I'm not on about that.
4:55Lewis Bowden:I'm on about Just. Just. You mentioned Just about, well, no, what Liverpool have done is they've told Isak to, we've had a bid reject to them. Do you think there's communication between Liverpool and Isak's representative? Probably, yeah. Yeah. And what I've said is, I didn't say, do you think they've said, right, we're willing to get you, but you need to do your end. No, no. I don't mean that happens. So do you think Isak just out of his own side? I think his agents told him. But also, that's beside the point. Whether that's true or not, It's beside the point. Isak in going on strike, in going on strike and not refusing to play and trade, that's what's dropped the price.
5:26That's the point. Whether it's Liverpool, who cares? Can I ask the question? I don't think that's true. Of course it drops the price.
5:32Lewis Bowden:The only, no, the only, this whole£150 million you've just made up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is never, it's not, it's what's so frustrating. You've accepted an offer. The only reason you finally accepted an offer is because you've got a replacement. Tom, the reason that he's gone for£100 ,000, he wouldn't know where. If Izak was playing football, Tom, for Newcastle, he wouldn't have been going for 130 million because we know we would have a striker. The risk that we had was... I don't agree with that. Let me finish. Do you know how much money I had for 30 million? Let me finish. The reason that we've let him go for 130 million is because we can't reliably say he's going to play and we're going to get to January.
6:09Well, if he doesn't play and the value goes down, so we've had to accept a bit of a loss and maybe we said 150, knowing that we could meet him in the middle somewhere.
6:16Theo:This 150 is an arbitrary amount that you create. Again, frankly, you're actually talking out your ass. Keith Richard said it.
6:23Lewis Bowden:It's not true. From every single report on this, Newcastle's price tag has been 150. So you're saying I made it up. You've just not followed any of the story. Can I ask a question? So it's wrong. No, because what you're saying is just wrong. I don't know how else to put it.
6:38Theo:But every single time that you've quoted Newcastle sources throughout this entire transfer window, they've been fucking wrong. Okay. When? Every time. No, no. When did it ask? This is a great example of, go on, what I said was wrong. Okay, what was wrong about that? Everything you said. We can put up that entire episode where you... I'd love to because what I said is actually relatively true to what was going on. Newcastle, Man United were holding off for encouragement. Newcastle were trying to push the issue and out of reach of what Man United could afford. Now, what I was wrong about was Man United could afford it.
7:13My opinion, that was just my opinion though. I didn't think Man United could afford
7:16Reev:the way the deal's structured. Do you think Newcastle have handled this quite poorly? Because the original bid was what? 120 million? And you've now signed up for 110 million. 110 million. They've got more money than originally. They've got more money but in the grand schemes of how much money that is, the actual percentage has not increased a whole lot of amount. Do you not think
7:37Theo:selling in for slightly less earlier in the transfer window would have been better business
7:40Reev:so you could get the actual replacement in earlier? They're still going to get the replacement. No, no, because... But they should have now go out and buy another striker. They should have only sold him
7:47Lewis Bowden:and let Eka TK. But they need another striker today, don't they? We already have one. We have a striker. You're presuming that we were using that IZAC money to buy it. We have the money there to buy it. We weren't waiting for that money to hit our bank account to spend it. We could sign a striker for a big fee before selling IZAC. You know what I'm saying? You still need another striker today. But we have a new striker. We signed one. No. Another one. You do need another one. But the way... That isn't down to IZAC not leaving why we haven't done that. We just haven't been able to get the deal over.
8:11It's not because Iza hasn't been sold. We've been waiting to get them in so we can let him go. But you talk so concretely
8:17Theo:that you can't always be right. That's why it's funny
8:20Lewis Bowden:because then you come back and you look stupid because you keep saying this is, oh no, I've got the sources. I mean, I know within the club and then it comes out you're wrong. But do you think in the transfer window things change quickly so that's why exactly what's going to happen. So don't speak so concretely. So what should I do? When we come in on the week I'll be like, okay,
8:38Theo:this is what the Newcastle reporters are saying I'll just not mention any of it because no no no you can mention it and not go so this is what's going to happen I don't say and then when
8:48Lewis Bowden:someone else says oh we think this is going to happen you don't know you don't know you don't know what's been said inside the club Tom you were guilty of the exact same thing with the whole Strand Larson thing and then he tried I know you were and now you're trying to do some change and he's still going to be a Wolves player so I'm right no no no shut up right should we bring up your clip whatever can you type on my Twitter Lewis Bourdon please The argument was What Tom was saying is Strand Larson doesn't want to sign for you I said he doesn't want to leave He's happy not to leave Then the report came out He wanted to leave Is he still a Wolves player?
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9:19Again, that's not the argument Tom You said he didn't want to leave, yes? He wanted to leave
9:24Lewis Bowden:That's not why It's because Wolves won't sell him He doesn't want it He's not pushing for a move That's why he's still playing for Wolves Actually, you're so hilariously hypocritical Here, Strand Larson I'm not agitating to leave Wolves because he's not like we've all seen the clip but he wants to leave for Newcastle this is what Tom then said and that's why he's a Newcastle player now isn't it because believe it or not it's not up to Strand Larson it's up to the club of course it is you're just saying the reason he's actually even it all because of him yeah Strand Larson not agitating to leave because he's not going to go he's not going to go on strike but the least thing you can do is admit it when you're wrong Tom but I'm not he's a Wolves player let's play the clip let's just see what you said because that's not the argument you're making why does no one want to play for your club.
10:02Lewis Bowden:Strand Larson? I don't think that's good.
10:03Reev:Strand Larson would rather live in Wolverhampton than Newcastle.
10:05Lewis Bowden:He wants to come. No, he doesn't. Strand Larson does not want to come. They're pushing through. Okay, Tom Garrett's told me Strand Larson doesn't want to come. I apologise. If he wanted to leave, there's a difference between wanting... See, I don't know how yous jump on my back, how I'm delusional. Because he hasn't left. Theo, we have Ornstein there saying, literally, Strand Larson wants to leave Wolves. And he's young, because he's still a Wolves player. Wait, can I ask? Does Visser want to leave Brentford? Does Visser want to leave Newcastle? But I will say Stran Larsson Stran Larsson doesn't want to leave Wolves Otherwise he'd have left So if Visser doesn't leave Brentford Does that mean he never wanted to leave?
10:43He's come out and said I want to leave this truck That's what it means by saying
10:46Lewis Bowden:I can't believe you two Because he's handed in a chance You don't let me speak Your will is to jump down my neck But when he does the exact same thing It's impossible to speak
10:57Theo:They're not comparable cases Strand Larson's not trying to push a move and also Lewis that's not what we're talking about he was on about these Wolves reports that he's following and they're all saying that Strand Larson doesn't want to leave and it is Ornstein saying he does want to leave so why is Ornstein right
11:11Lewis Bowden:and they were wrong because all the reports that have come out since this Tom are all saying he does want to leave
11:15Reev:the reason why we can't actually argue it because you're actually not going to speak the difference between like Visa, Isaac and Strand Larson is that Isaac and Visa have clearly like they've gone on strike they've publicly said Strand Larson not the argument I was making Even though Stranel hasn't, maybe he wants to leave, right? He went and scored a break for them. I mean, I'm allowed to speak or... No, but you're not making the argument I was making. I'm trying to explain. You're not letting me fucking talk. No, I'm saying, why aren't you getting on to Tom? Because you're about... I'm trying!
11:42You won't stop talking! You're talking about the players. Okay, I'm not going to bother.
11:45Reev:Surely... You're not making Sam Iwin. Do you know what I mean? I know everyone's going to be like, you're back in time,
11:50Theo:you're back in time. But surely the difference between like being keen on a move and forcing to want to go to a club is very different. If I was a footballer and someone went, oh, Newcastle won you, I'd go, fucking hell, go there. That's pretty good. This is Stran Larsson. But that's different to going, I really want to go there.
12:04Lewis Bowden:Stran Larsson did a stay, and I think he was happy if Wolves wanted to accept it. I probably misspoke saying he doesn't want to go. He's a missing young man.
12:12Reev:Stran Larsson, maybe he wants to go, maybe he doesn't. We don't actually know that, right? But Visa and Ezek publicly make it very known they want to leave. They went on strike. Stran Larsson hasn't handed in a transfer request, hasn't been like a bastard about it. He hasn't gone on strike He hasn't been not trained Or anything like that
12:28Lewis Bowden:He isn't wanting to leave I think he would have Accepted the move But he wasn't wanting to move
12:34Reev:Mark Gahey has done exactly How you should be acting I'd have backed up you He's made the example of Vissar But Strat Larsson
12:37Theo:He's actually wanting to still Play for Wolves at the same time I know No He's missing the argument That I'm making I'm not on about The case by case thing I was just saying What he was saying about me Is true about himself Because he said one thing And it turned out I'm a massive hypocrite Yeah we know that though We know that he's a hypocrite I'm just using that as an example
13:00Lewis Bowden:I'm a massive hypocrite And I do always think I'm right Of course That's given my opinion But I don't speak concretely About things You literally did on that clip In the know Yeah but ironically I've actually ended up being right You haven't been right He does want to leave But have he stayed He stayed That's the club decision Not the player decision The player wants to leave And that's what that clip was about You're saying the player wants to stay It came out the player wants to leave Let's agree to this I don't think he wants to leave
13:23Theo:I think in that particular example, he would have handed a transfer request. Precisely. That's one thing to leave. He's not gone down that dickhead route. But that's irrelevant to whether he wants to go. He hasn't even asked to leave.
13:33Lewis Bowden:He hasn't asked to leave. Otherwise, he would have handed a transfer request. That's how it works.
13:37Reev:A transfer request isn't a dickhead move. Going on strike is a dickhead move. Yeah. I think players have handed transfer request a lot in the park. No, transfer request, yeah, not as dickhead-y. Strike. That's the way you go around. Strike is more effective.
13:48Theo:Yeah, but what we're saying is the strike is more effective. Well, it is clearly, isn't it? What we're saying is if the last example rang true, then he would have handed in a transfer request. If he was joking to move. The reports that are coming out were that he did go to them and had a meeting with them, and he was very politely saying, look, I would like to leave, but I'm not going to cause any shit. That's the situation with him. He wasn't in the squad thingy, but that was because of an injury, I think. Yeah, he was injured. We'll let him have that one then. You were right. You know what? I'm sorry.
14:15You were right. Thanks, guys. Because that's the one thing you've been technically right about all summer. I'm just saying keep the same energy. You know, you've got to keep the same energy you can't jump down my neck and then let him off the whole list of stuff.
14:25Lewis Bowden:I go in every fucking episode. I get the most of shit like that all the time. This is just funny because every single transfer about Newcastle, you've been wrong.
14:34Reev:It's lucky for Tom that half the shit he says is actually wrong, but because it's wrong over a long period of time, forget about it. You're wrong in the now, he's wrong long term. I'm actually quite right. I said Walter Marder ages ago. You've never heard of him.
14:47Theo:He was just seventh pick, wasn't he? Yeah.
14:51Reev:There is some other transfer news happening. Debu Martinez is going to... Who? Yeah, why does Fabrizio keep calling him Debu? Who is he? Debu Martinez, mate. Oh, shit. What's Debu? I don't fucking know. What? It's so funny. He's going to Man United, isn't he? Everyone keeps saying, why the fuck do you keep calling him Debu? He's fucking shit, isn't he? Yeah, Martinez is going to Man United. Donnarumma is going to Manchester City.
15:15Theo:Is there a price that's been...
15:17Reev:For Debu? Yeah. No. A billion pounds. I don't know about DB
15:21Theo:they're fucking
15:22Reev:they've spent the most now Anthony has signed permanently for Royal Betis
15:25Lewis Bowden:has that actually gone through no because they were saying 25 million plus 50 they were saying they couldn't afford his wages
15:30Reev:apparently it's gone through Fenerbahce have signed Edison on a huge money deal just after Jose Mourinho has been fired from Fenerbahce has he really? I didn't know that he wants to go he said like a year ago he's like when I leave here in like a year's time if you're in like lower half of the Premier League you'll come and save Mourinho to Man Utd Mourinho to Man Utd
15:48Theo:I swear at one point he said he wanted to manage Crystal Palace or is that not true? Yeah, I think he's always liked Palace apparently. Anyway, so... Donnarumma. Here we... Oh, I didn't realise that Gerd had left as well.
16:02Reev:There was a lot happening on the transfer deadline day to day.
16:05Theo:Yeah, we're recording this before it ends as well so there could be a couple more. It's the morning of, yeah. Oh yeah, D.
16:10Reev:Why did you keep calling D? It's so frustrating. Is that his name on like... Is that a nickname? It's got to be a nickname, isn't it? His name's Amelia Arno.
16:16Theo:Yeah, so it's a nickname, isn't it? What? Amelia. I bet he's like
16:20Lewis Bowden:met him once and he started calling him Debu that must be a nickname yeah also known as Damien
16:26Theo:Damien
16:27Reev:but Debu isn't even
16:28Lewis Bowden:yeah it says also known as
16:29Reev:also known as Debu oh he's oh he's mates with him oh that's so cringe 17 mil apparently um 17 that's a bit of transfer news there guys obviously Lewis is is your vein away yet has it gone back in I'm not a transfer correspondent
16:45Theo:there's a lot of stuff going on you've been an angry boy today
16:46Lewis Bowden:angry boy haven't you
16:48Theo:Is there any resentment towards your Newcastle sources that have put you in the shit for the last three months? I'm actually quite glad that the EZAC thing's over now. I would have drawn on the Vista. I had a conversation before you two arrived. I was like, Lou, do you know what today is?
17:04Reev:And he went, it's fucking Rags Termination Day! It's good it's over, man. If you stayed, he would just be fucking talking about it all season.
17:14Theo:So on a real, who do you think you get as your second striker now then? It's got to be Vista. I think we'll spend too much for Wisser. He's going to be the most premium price. I think we spend 60 million on him way over, but fuck it. He's the best. And also he's different to Volta de Mata.
17:25Reev:If you get Strand Larson, it's two tall strikers. You want a bit of height difference. Yeah, but they're very different, aren't they? Yeah, but I feel like these would be the one. Wolves can't let Strand Larson go. Brentford can sort of let him go. Do you know what I mean? You're right. If Wolves let Strand Larson go, they are going down. Period. Hopefully. for Lou. Let's address the weekend action, guys. City beat, losing, sorry, to Brighton. James Milner on the score sheet. You read that backwards. I read it backwards, yeah.
17:54Theo:Brighton were good, by the way. Brighton were very, especially in the second half. In the second half, they were quality. Sat two people down, mate.
18:01Reev:Harland looked a little bit shaky in front of goal, I thought. You know that chance he had when he broke through and he put past it to the keeper, He is a bit like that
18:10Lewis Bowden:sometimes and he's not like... Yeah, people forget he does get two or three big chances of the game.
18:13Reev:but he puts one away
18:14Theo:but he doesn't care
18:15Reev:City are now they're in 13th they've lost two games out of three
18:20Theo:yeah one to their bogey team admittedly but like there's an excuse but I suppose yeah but like
18:27Reev:everyone thought I know everyone thought oh maybe this won't win the league no people got carried away
18:31Lewis Bowden:no before the signings got everyone
18:33Reev:carried away I think
18:33Lewis Bowden:I don't think so I think before the Wolves game a lot of people thought I don't think City will be like we don't think they're going to be back and then the Wolves game I think people got a bit excited
18:41Reev:turns out Wolves are just crap yes Yes, and then even the Wolves go in there, they didn't play brilliantly. But their defence is looking just like crap.
18:48Lewis Bowden:Yeah, which is what we said at the start of the season, that that'll let them down defending. But again, signing all those players, it's not that easy just to integrate them after how poor they were for a lot of that season.
19:00Reev:They're starting back four with eight Nuri at left back, Kusanov, John Stones and Nunes. That's so attacking as well. He's not a right backer. Also, Stones isn't the same player he was. Kusunov he's looked okay but he's so young he's a bit shaky 8-0 he's just like a winger yeah literally and then they've got James Trafford who needs time to settle in and he probably won't get time now if they're signing Donnarumma so like
19:24Theo:I think they've had a different back four every game so far this season right really because he dropped Diaz
19:29Reev:Diaz isn't he's not well he dropped him
19:32Theo:didn't he the weekend
19:32Reev:but Diaz isn't the player he was like they they're buying all these attacking players even attacking defenders but I feel like they need the centre half aren't Spurs linked with Akanji?
19:46Lewis Bowden:Palace are. Palace are linked with Akanji. Was that preemptively
19:50Theo:because they thought Gehi was going? Yeah.
19:52Lewis Bowden:I didn't realise
19:52Theo:Akanji's that old as well.
19:54Reev:Oh yeah Spurs are linked with him as well. If Palace get they're talking about it's like 15 million for Akanji that would be unreal. It's 30. 30 million? No I'm saying he's 30 years old I didn't realise.
20:04Theo:Swapping Akanji with Gehi. Gehi's not going to go anymore he was talking about how they don't want him to go but I don't know if he's doing Liverpool need a centre-back. The price up a bit. Liverpool need a centre-back. We can talk about the game later. How fucking good was that goal? Paris is quite good at... Oh, mate. It's filthy.
20:17Lewis Bowden:He seemed very... Settled. Ongoing. Yes, it looked like he was... Going out on a bang. Yeah, and just his interview after it just seemed a bit...
20:25Reev:I think as well, if you're a Palace fan, like, yeah, obviously it's going to be sad seeing Gehi go if he does go, like Eze, but he can't knock what he's done. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? He's played right up to the last minute, helping them win 3-0, scoring a worldie. He's got him a trophy. because he's not going to sign a new contract and it's like they can still get what like almost 40 million out of it
20:45Theo:no surely if he surely if he doesn't move he will sign a new contract no he's not apparently he's not going to sign it really but also it's one of them where
20:51Reev:he deserves a bigger move to further his pitch yeah yeah 100 % he's a great footballer you just have to accept that yeah and I think it's not on him Jesus Christ how long is his name because it's like they've had a chance to sell him he's got like six names
21:03Theo:Gaithy yeah Mark Israel Gaithy Mark Israel Gaithy wow that's a cool name that is a long name 25 is a little bit older than 25 you know, bloody hell
21:14Reev:that makes me feel old doesn't he, he's four years younger than me seven years younger than you that's not true
21:23Theo:Brighton however
21:25Reev:Brighton I was a little bit unsure about but to beat the mighty man sitting
21:28Theo:this is what I'm saying, Brighton are one of those teams where you don't know what Brighton's going to turn up surely as a person that's followed them for a while you just don't know you're trying to get a deep back of it
21:39Lewis Bowden:You never know if they're going to finish their chances. They always create chances, don't they? But you just never know if they're going to stick them in the onion bag. Minton has scored a fucking worldie cutting in. You see that? Yeah, he's a... He's a spicy boy. He's a Newcastle legend, isn't he? Yeah. Right up there with Gran Kowal.
21:53Theo:Are they in for any more players? Brought in themselves? Not to see. You never know. They've probably got some fucking... They'll probably find someone. Yeah.
22:00Reev:Let them find someone.
22:01Theo:19-year-old.
22:02Lewis Bowden:There's some Bolivian centre-half who's going to get to Chelsea in a year for fucking 200 million. West Ham got a result, finally.
22:10Reev:My favourite thing about... Lions! Lions! Do you know what's funny? Up until the goal, it was such a crap game. It was so shit. Honestly,
22:20Theo:I was convinced I was going to end 0-0. Tom, can you address
22:22Lewis Bowden:the Forest fans
22:23Theo:in that camera, please?
22:24Lewis Bowden:I want to apologise because you're actually worse than I thought you'd be. 3-0 to West Ham. You fucking useless fucking tree-shagging wankers. They got more points to see. That is embarrassing. All the money you've spent in the summer and West Ham, West Ham, one of the worst teams in the Premier League this season have gone there and done you. Not one, not two, but three fucking nil. Click on the game.
22:51Reev:Is that a bit of an overreaction there, Tom, because of your agenda here? Because they are still 10th. What agenda are you on? Above City.
22:56Lewis Bowden:Stop looking at the table. No, they're above City. They're above City. They've got more points than City. They've also played no one. Did you see Bowen going, that unbelievable run. Literally like Messi like taking on everyone. Gets the final thing and Wilson tries and steals it and scubs it wide. Wait, don't knock Wilson
23:15Reev:because that header is the lead. Did you not see the run though? It was fucking unbelievable.
23:18Lewis Bowden:Go on the stats again. Go on the stats again. Oh God. West Ham are the next year 2.42. That was only the last 10 minutes of the game. Fucking embarrassing. Yeah, pretty much. One big chance created for Forrest. Yeah, I mean, look. When you can't just counter-attack teams it's not that easy, is it lads?
23:32Theo:My favourite thing about the entire game is the Paquette celebration. Because it's still up in the air. I'm staying. I'm staying. Can you imagine if he goes, though?
23:40Lewis Bowden:It would be funny, but I think that... The Britzio said the day before as well, like, Paquetta's keen on the move and it's close, and it's like, Diapri's doing that. Good selly, though. It's almost like sometimes when reports say they're keen to move, then maybe not. I don't listen to the Britzio. I'll tell you what, Keith would never do that.
23:55Reev:That is such a big result for West Ham, you know, because they need...
23:58Lewis Bowden:That's Kit Potter in the job for another few weeks.
24:00Reev:100%. That's the start of their season.
24:02Theo:That's definitely the start of their season. There you go.
24:04Reev:And do you know who the biggest difference maker was? Fernandes. No It was Somerville When he came on He changed the game
24:10Theo:Fernandes was really good As well though He came on at 0-0 Somerville No I know he did Yeah I'm just saying
24:16Reev:The new signing
24:17Lewis Bowden:He did really well For the penalty
24:18Reev:He did sensational Didn't he He's a good player
24:20Lewis Bowden:Somerville's quality He's been out since
24:21Reev:What January February
24:22Lewis Bowden:Yeah he's But that's like a new
24:24Reev:Sign in for them Almost Genuinely
24:28Lewis Bowden:I am going to continue To predict Forrest to win Every week now Because I thought They'd be I just I can't I just can't believe How shit they really are Maybe you should take the humble route. If there's Sheldon, maybe you just be humble and let them come back and apologise. I literally just tweeted yesterday, just randomly, just an iron with a laughing fan. You do that. I had a lot of really weird abusive messages. I'm not sure why. That's weird. One was telling me they wanted my mum to die. I think one was telling me... Really nice of them. So what was the real reason? Oh, yeah, there we go.
25:03Lewis Bowden:your mum tummy tucks and your daddy's a deadbeat you wank your mates off and your missus is built like freak I was like what a normal reaction to that tweet that's weird that's from Mr. Maranacus the discord came in after and supported you so that's fine Tom so what was the real reason then that you did this tweet what was the meaning well it's his idea there you go gimpy cunt there you go
25:27Reev:taking the last one isn't it funny how angry people get on Twitter it's great from one good looking attack to another how fluid do Everton look by the way going forward they look class
25:41Theo:they're lacking in Brantfoot aren't they at the moment but like beyond that they're really good
25:45Lewis Bowden:well Mikhellenko was stinking for that second goal as well Wolves no but they are
25:50Theo:a different unit
25:51Lewis Bowden:when it's Brantfoot alongside Tom I know but you could have had Van Dijk there and Mikhellenko's just stood there and let Rodrigo run in behind him it's fucking embarrassing but
25:58Reev:Grealish four assists in two games
26:00Theo:they're really I'll tell you what And his little Instagram story. Which one? What was that? Boll played three games in a row. Typing in when's the last time Jack Grealish played three games in a row. I didn't see that. 2024 or something. They're really fluid. They are fluid.
26:17Lewis Bowden:But that first goal, was it the first goal when, and Jai's goal? At one point, all three of them. First goal. It was his goal when.
26:29Reev:No, no, no. No, no, no. The first goal was Jai. He's the first one. He's just saying, yeah, Beto got the first one. It was that one,
26:34Lewis Bowden:they were all three of them were like on the left-hand side and they're just interchanges, played it through and enjoy. Do you know what it reminds me of?
26:41Reev:You know, like if you're an Everton fan, looking at that front three of like Greely's, Jusby and Indy, Beto's in there as well, whatever. But it almost reminds me of like, you know when like, Lingard signed for West Ham and it was just like this like, glory period of like, 10 weeks of just like heaven.
26:56Theo:There's like a great vibe
26:57Reev:at Everton right now. The new stadium and everything.
26:59Theo:They've got Grealish and Gisby Hall who have played second fiddle in really good teams that are obviously incredible players that are now just being unleashed and allowed to do what they want.
27:07Lewis Bowden:And also, these are very... But he was already there, is what I mean. When was the last time Everton had players like this? Silky players. Silky. Just like, no, like... Technically grifted. They're not really Moyes signings either. No, they're not.
27:22Reev:It is... They're keeping better, though. Do you know what I mean? Like, Moyes is such a good manager. He can just let these guys go do their thing. Yeah, mate.
27:28Lewis Bowden:Mate, I mean, I predicted him to win the FA Cup. That's obviously going to happen now. He's better than number one striker. I don't know.
27:37Theo:He is good, but he's also really bad. I think it's going to... He will get goals with that three behind them, though. I think they're going to rotate, aren't they,
27:44Lewis Bowden:with him and Barry. I don't really know. It's weird, isn't it?
27:46Theo:But he's keeping a bit... But they're basically the same player. That's the problem. Yeah, so Moyes is keeping a bit of DNA up front. He's got to make sure Paul gets to it.
27:55Reev:Also, do you see Idris the guy's leggings?
27:58Lewis Bowden:no really jarring
28:00Reev:you know like he didn't play that well either like off the pitch did you not see him in the game? so they wear white socks and blue shorts I think it was he had white leggings oh I didn't notice that socks and everything
28:12Lewis Bowden:it looked all like oh they had white socks on though it looked like he was wearing
28:16Reev:like these jarts like an all in one like an all in one legging right if you look at Adrissa Geist you love leggings though keep going go for one of the walls guys there he is oh my god yeah it's white white shorts blue socks he's like a pro clubs character what's he doing I'm surprised that's allowed I thought they're not because you can barely see socks it's blue socks white shorts anyway such a good goal Everton are going to do well this year they're in fit if the two or three of them are keeping fit yeah 100 % that is the issue injuries are a big part of football aren't they lads yeah I'm happy for Grealish
28:52Lewis Bowden:oh no don't you dare
28:55Reev:Man United scraping a result against Burnley. They didn't scrape it though.
28:59Lewis Bowden:They didn't. They battered them. Objectively. They battered Burnley. They battered them. Scripped it though. Mate, they scraped it. In the end, yeah, but... They should have put them to bed in the first half. Like, let's be... I know, but ultimately... Let's not act like it was a 3-2 game. But ultimately it was. Yeah. You know what I mean?
29:14Reev:You can play as good as you want. They played great against Arsenal and lost.
29:18Theo:You can play as good as you want. I know what you're trying to say, but also... They did scrape it. It was 2-2 until the 1970s. I understand.
29:23Lewis Bowden:against Burnham they technically did scrape it but they battered them yeah but they also did that against Arsenal
29:29Reev:and lost
29:30Lewis Bowden:yeah and this time they did it and won interesting I remember that yeah that's actually funny
29:36Theo:that you're on the side of that I was just about to say which is when we still yeah but we played well with 10 men yeah yeah but like I would still admit we scraped by if we got like a last minute like Liverpool scraped by us very interesting that's where the entirety of last season when we did those kind of results you read yeah but you're only just doing it Yeah, but... Still did it. Still smashing the team. You just only win by one goal. My agenda's changed.
29:58Reev:Yeah. It's like Arsenal played poorly against United and lost. Oh, sorry, and won. Played poorly against Liverpool and lost. So, swings and roundabouts, Luke. What? That's not the example we should... What are you on about?
30:10Theo:You know what you said? Play poorly in both games. Very cool.
30:15Reev:Bruno Fernandes... Actually, United got two injuries in that game. Mount and Cunha. Yeah. Not ideal. They've got a bit tearsy. Mount's been one of their better players this year as well. Yeah, he has actually. He says, couldn't you? Yeah. Penalty against Grimsby.
30:29Lewis Bowden:But your man scored as well, Mr. Burnley.
30:33Reev:Laudle Posse. No, Fosse. Pardon? Laudle Posse.
30:35Lewis Bowden:Yes, he scored twice, Tom. Yes, he did.
30:36Theo:The disallowed goals, actually, he took it well. Underrated, you'd say. Ripper. That is so ridiculously marginal as well. Wasn't it confused? Can I just say? If it wasn't semi-automatic, that gets given, I reckon.
30:49Lewis Bowden:Can we get that picture up? I don't think it's off the line. Can someone please explain to me what's offside? Well, I don't even know.
30:54Theo:It's like his shirt was there. But it's his arm. I didn't even know your arm could be offside.
30:57Lewis Bowden:Well. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Is this any body part, is it? I saw it on Twitter the other day and I went, I don't get what's. No, your arm can't be offside, can it? Well, this is what I mean. Just go and Google. I think they defined like the short. And didn't then. Brun Larson put it on his story being like, what the fuck? Yeah.
31:12Theo:Top left there.
31:13Lewis Bowden:Yeah, that picture there. Oh.
31:17Reev:That.
31:17Theo:It's insane. What's offside?
31:18Reev:It's actually insane. because you can't score with that part anyway. It's his front elbow. That's ridiculous. Yeah. I don't know how that's been ruled out.
31:29Theo:If that's not semi-automatic by the way, that's given us a goal. No fucking VAR is going to look at that and go, all right, he's off. Do we have to go back now? And it's like,
31:38Reev:fuck's sake. This automatic VAR is any body part, isn't it?
31:42Lewis Bowden:I don't know, but what's annoying is, yet again, this whole weekend has been like fucking filled with VAR bullshit. What they're doing there is counting the sleeve. I think the only look because it's cuts off on the sleeve on board but they're also counting it on wherever the other United players my point is you can't score with that point in your body can you but this whole weekend has been filled with like VAR bullshit why are we looking for reasons to disallow goals so intense I don't think
32:08Reev:the issue semi-automatic offside does work and it's quick and it takes away a lot of like I'm not really
32:14Lewis Bowden:that arsed about that I just didn't understand this is peak
32:17Reev:that like is a half a millimetre offside.
32:19Lewis Bowden:Some of his arm is off, but you can't score with your arm. If he'd have scored with that part of his body, they'd have disallowed him.
32:25Reev:The real issue is the Chelsea-Fulham game. Yes. Josh King's goal. Yeah. When, what's his name, did a roulette. Who was it? Munez. Munez did a roulette and they've called it. The worst thing about, I think the worst thing about that is the reason they called it a, it was a... Careless. Careless challenge. Challenge, yeah. He can't put his foot anywhere else. He literally can't put his foot anywhere else.
32:46Lewis Bowden:It wasn't a challenge, using control of the ball and we've now disallowed a brilliant goal from an 18-year-old when also Fulham are on top and with a better team. They completely changed the game. How long have they been to come to that decision now? It took a long time, yeah. It's just fucking... I don't understand why Gord come out and apologise, don't they? Which is pointless
33:05Reev:because it doesn't mean anything. Retrospectively doesn't get you pointed out.
33:09Lewis Bowden:I'd half prefer them not to bother with apologies. It's irrelevant
33:13Reev:because the guy on VAR has had to step down, Halward made him step down. and it's like I don't what is the point of an apology
33:21Lewis Bowden:they also you know what the reason I think because I was speaking to someone about it yesterday and they were all about well why have they demoted VAR I think it's because when he went over to the screen they just kept showing the stamp they're not giving him the whole context
33:35Theo:no no they did
33:36Lewis Bowden:no but they showed it in yeah but they kept replaying the tread the tread on they're obviously influencing him and obviously they'll hear what the VAR are telling him and it's always in slow-mo and it must be oh we think he's like trotters and you know what's hard as well because when we're watching it and you're watching it with friends and that and you have Twitter everyone you have confirmation the confirmation from everyone on your opinion whereas he's cut off from everything he has no input from other people so he's only so much harder
34:03Reev:the referee I almost feel a bit bad but he should have more balls that's why they're Premier League referees but like imagine all your colleagues in the V.A. you need to look at him and if he then goes against them and then it's wrong, it looks even worse on the referee. So it's almost like a catch-22 where the ref almost can't win. But he just has to trust his own instinct and that's part of the job. And that's part of the job. You have to make these big decisions. That's why you're a Premier League referee is to make big decisions and trust you know what you're doing and not VAR. Yeah, it's poo all around.
34:36It's like, he should be able to trust VAR to a point and then when stuff like this happens, it's only going to make him think in the future. I just don't get
34:44Theo:what he's meant to do. like yeah there's literally nowhere else you can put his foot in that point
34:48Lewis Bowden:football's also a contact game yeah contact does occur unfortunately sometimes when people might get hurt it's like and he's in control of the ball yeah it's not a challenge if you have fucking possession yeah I felt bad for Fulham because they were brilliant first half they were by far the better team 100 % it would have been completely changed the game completely changed
35:08Reev:the game
35:09Theo:Pedro Hedra was just like a nail in the coffin yeah half time wasn't it wasn't it in the ninth minute have had a time it was the ninth minute yeah but it's eight minutes minimum of stoppage right yeah it's one of them ones where yeah it's annoying it's annoying
35:22Reev:but that is that is football just funny for
35:25Theo:Marcus Silver but they did get
35:26Reev:the penalty right even that even that right they were looking to cancel it out yeah they were looking for so many reasons
35:33Lewis Bowden:to like oh is it handball is there a push is there a foul before that was there a foul fucking last week before that like Jesus Christ just go with it if you think it's why are we looking for like the minute details to cancel goal. I swear last season we gave him more. Everything used to be, and I'm not trying to be nostalgic, but benefit of the doubt for the attacker. If we think he's slightly offside, benefit of the doubt because we want to give goals, we want goals, we don't want to cancel them for fucking someone's arm hair being offside. It used to be like, or felt like at least, where say you got a bad decision in the first half, you'd always get to someone back in the second.
36:07They sort of give you the benefit of doubt to try and help make it up in the second half, but now it's also regimented with the rules. Maybe that's what they were doing though.
36:15Reev:to play devil's advocate maybe they would saw that penalty and they were trying to find a reason to cancel that out they probably were but it's like in the Grimsy Man United game they got a lucky goal but they also got one that they should have filled out it does normally just work out otherwise but if you're a Fulham fan you completely understand your frustration yeah you'd be fucking fuming get over it
36:32Theo:especially where you're on top of the game I'm pretty sure last season there was more impetus on letting the referee's decision be the one that stands and now VAR they said they weren't
36:42Lewis Bowden:going to get involved with it unless it's clear enough Yeah, now they're back to just... And we don't want to re-referee the game.
36:47Reev:That's exactly what you do. Other news. Come backwards. Sunderland, another win. Hey. You all right, mate? I called like 4-1 to Brentford, I think. I thought Brentford would win. Sixth in the table. Newcastle, 17th.
37:00Lewis Bowden:Damn. They really are the biggest club in the North East.
37:02Reev:You said don't listen to the tales at this point. Are Sunderland staying up?
37:06Lewis Bowden:They've got a chance.
37:07Reev:I called them to stay up.
37:08Lewis Bowden:I think I've really underestimated their home crowd and home. Very early. To come back from behind.
37:16Reev:It is very early though.
37:17Lewis Bowden:It is early. Very early. They were, I don't want to piss on a parade, they were a little bit lucky. Bad penalty. You need that though, if you're going to fucking steal it off. Yeah, he's caught you in a bit. I mean, if Brentford are 2-0 up, I think that kills, kills the crowd, kills the game. But, mate, two guys, penalty and then a really good header from Isidore on it, I think. By the way,
37:37Reev:what week he had, did you hear?
37:38Lewis Bowden:Yeah, he didn't.
37:39Reev:His wife gave birth and it was his birthday and he scored. Wow.
37:42Lewis Bowden:Pretty boost mode for him. Best week of his life. I do think, yeah, their away form is probably going to be, they'll probably just buy the buy, but yeah, their home form could be. You get enough points at home. Yeah, your home form is what can keep you up.
37:55Reev:And then obviously Leeds played Newcastle, and then Bournemouth also won against Spurs. They were really good. I loved about that, sorry. It's like you were talking like, oh, it's proper footy, Leeds, Newcastle, can't wait for this to be like Harry, Shulman. We went five on the back till the 70th minute. I said in the chat as soon as I said we had five in the back of my eye we're going to be shittier I actually thought they were more likely to win at the start of the game they're fairly toothless so it's we just don't play well like that Bournemouth did a number on Spurs though
38:22Lewis Bowden:a big number although we said yesterday on the stream didn't we a bit of a reality check it's the first time Spurs have not had a shot on the target
38:31Reev:for like four years in the first half bring back Ange they were saying
38:36Theo:I can't remember what the actual date is but that's the first time Spurs have not had a shot on target in the first half of a game for absolutely ages, yeah. Yeah, maybe Andrew's right.
38:46Reev:Maybe they're not as good as everyone thinks. Bournemouth just...
38:49Lewis Bowden:Has anyone said they're amazing? Great, though. How good do you think they are?
38:54Reev:I'd say they're ninth good.
38:56Lewis Bowden:Ninth good. Ninth good in the league. You think they're the ninth best team in the league? I predict them to finish ninth,
39:02Reev:I think. That wasn't the question. Do you think they're ninth... Where do you think they are? Maybe like 13th best in the league.
39:08Lewis Bowden:Wow.
39:09Theo:I think Spurs are the 13th best in the Premier League.
39:11Reev:Making up numbers, man.
39:12Theo:Let it slide. Surely they're going to be much better with Javi Simmonds, though.
39:15Lewis Bowden:What a signing. We were talking about that. The fact that they just played you like a fiddle.
39:20Theo:They're the ones
39:20Reev:playing AD chess here, guys. They actually had your signing Javi Simmonds rather than the Premier League proven Eze. Who do you think's a better player? Eze.
39:29Theo:Because that's more
39:29Reev:seen more than...
39:30Theo:We literally had this same discussion off camera.
39:32Lewis Bowden:No, but I'm asking you because you film with Javi Simmonds? 100%. Yeah, he's a nice lad. He's a good guy.
39:37Reev:Good chats with him. Friend of the show. but I do think Eze is better especially in the Premier League which is completely fair you haven't seen Xavi Simmons in the Premier League so he might not be better in the he might not be only time will tell won't we people just said
39:48Lewis Bowden:the same about Chris Sutton and Thierry Henry when Thierry Henry signed probably did but who ended up being the better player Thierry Henry so say sorry what say sorry Xavi Simmons is better not a single minute player
40:01Theo:in the Prem
40:01Lewis Bowden:genuinely though what do you think he's the better signing for the price and the age do you not think Xavi Simmons 51 Eze 26 he's 27
40:09Theo:for the age
40:10Lewis Bowden:which by the way when I say age 27 he's not he's in his prime let's not have like he's old
40:15Reev:27 is really young
40:18Lewis Bowden:that's very young
40:19Reev:it's a prime age it's a great age I think
40:23Lewis Bowden:I do think I'm 29 makes me feel better as great as I is I do think Simmons is the best signing
40:29Theo:how old is so early to say 23
40:31Lewis Bowden:yeah
40:31Theo:I mean of course come through the
40:33Lewis Bowden:Barcelona Academy didn't he
40:35Reev:he's a friend of the show as well obviously makes a
40:37Lewis Bowden:big difference
40:37Theo:Brendan Shaw
40:39Reev:you should have mentioned James Simmons
40:41Lewis Bowden:yeah Theo sucked him off I didn't do that anyway should we rank talking to the transfer window
40:46Reev:oh wait there's one more game we haven't talked about
40:49Lewis Bowden:saving the best till last time oh oh yeah I've got a lot to say oh well we haven't spoken about Villa Palace either yeah Palace Villa are woeful
40:56Theo:they're the only team that haven't scored a goal yet
40:58Lewis Bowden:I'm finally actually now getting Villa fans saved to me do you know what you might have been right maybe there is something going on yeah it's fucking woeful bold claim by the way Emery What are you on about Emory is Gone By the end of the season Why I don't think so What walks or sacked I think either or I'm not sure I don't think they would ever Sack him because of what he's done But I think he'd walk I don't think so Out of pure frustration Villa might get down He's losing his head In the interviews already What was the guy's name Marco Bizot Marco Bizot Is that him losing his head That wasn't him losing his head I think that Couldn't be arsed to talk about Martin as he's leaving He's stuck in a time loop For me He said it three times Yeah and now you are There's groundhog beer.
41:37Lewis Bowden:They reckon they're coming in for Asensio again, which doesn't make any sense. He's going to... He's on a flight to Turkey. No, he's actually going to Turkey. Basictas, I think it was. All right. Someone. And there's only like... And who else are they in for? Oh! Breaking news!
41:55Reev:They were meant to be in for Burkett. Breaking news!
41:58Theo:Oh, no. Is it Newcastle? The double decadence pizza is back. For£55 million. Oh, we're spent... We're so£55 million.
42:06Reev:Viesa is on his way for his medical. Yay!
42:09Theo:To Spurs. To Spurs. Yeah, Sri Lanky's out for a while. It's Newcastle, yeah. It's actually true. It's true, yeah. Oh, just in time for our next segment as well, which is pretty class. That's a rip-off, but I'll take it. Actually, that... Is it? That's funny, because earlier in the show... It's just because he's there. You've genuinely swapped Isaac for Votemara and Viesa. In terms of mathematical value. 55-70 for 125. I think group Wilson in there. Like, our strike partnerships have swapped them. Do you know what I think? 20 goals in the Prem last year. 55 million's good.
42:40Lewis Bowden:No, it's good. It's just more around... 18, wasn't it? Or 19. Yeah. 19, yeah. Was it 19? They were non-penalty,
42:44Reev:How much did Solanke get signed for by Spurs? 70.
42:46Theo:60 summer. He got 28, I think. I don't think 55's that crazy. 50 players like to Brentford, they've got us going from like 35 to 55. Is that 55 for a backup, though? I think... Or is he going to be first? I don't know. It depends how... Surely Premier League-wise...
43:02Reev:Depends how shit this big stiff idiot really is. I think what might take a time.
43:05Theo:Would you not play this ahead of him?
43:06Reev:Oh my God. More breaking news. Villa have reached a loan agreement with Jadon Sancho.
43:14Lewis Bowden:Oh my God. Oh, I love this transfer window. Villa might be going down. That is hilarious. I told you something with Greg. Do you know what's funny about that? Yet another player on their books on about 200 grand a week. And then they're going to moan about PSR. we can't sign anyone, yeah? Because you fucking keep buying players like that. He's on loan, he's on loan. Yeah, but they'll be paying his wages.
43:37Theo:Yeah.
43:38Lewis Bowden:Or at least paying half a contribution. He's on about 300 grand a week. He's paying a lot of it, aren't he? Why the fuck are they signing Sancho? I have no idea.
43:46Reev:Shit. They're hoping for another Rashford effect. You know, when he came in, he was like, all right. He was shit for him as well. Hey, don't be arsed now, Tommy. Tommy. Let's go on to, it wasn't a great game, was it? Let's be honest, Liverpool Arsenal. It was pretty, the standards were poor.
43:59Lewis Bowden:Okay, I've got quite a few things. Not for how much it was built up to be. I've got quite a few things to say about these. So have I. First of all, why do you think the game was bad? Who makes these games bad? The players and the managers.
44:11Reev:From what side? Tactics laid out.
44:14Lewis Bowden:Who's been the most exciting team this season in the Premier League? Liverpool.
44:18Reev:But that doesn't necessarily mean Liverpool.
44:19Lewis Bowden:Do you know when you've had title races of City-Liverpool, what was always the best game of the season? City-Liverpool. There you go. So who are Who are the In this situation Theo
44:34Theo:Mick Amarino should never have started in the 10th
44:36Lewis Bowden:Yeah this is my whole thing And what did we say before the game Me and Luis literally said You're not going to go there and win You weren't going to try You'll never try to win the game And don't get me wrong I don't think you played badly I don't think Liverpool played that great But they get it done They get it over the line They get a goal And they defended really well from your set pieces All that malarkey You never From the get go as soon as that team was released, you knew Arteta went there not to lose. And he's gone there, been a coward again, been a coward, gone there not to lose, and actually ended up losing.
45:07It's like a double whammy.
45:09Lewis Bowden:And you will never, this is what, no, no, I haven't finished though, I haven't finished. You will never ever win a league title under this bloke. Because he, gangs like that, imagine, right, imagine if you'd have gone there and won the statement that makes. When, by the way, do you not think Liverpool are there for the taking defensively? Yeah, I understand. Every team they've played this season
45:27Theo:have scored twice against them. I wholeheartedly disagree with the Mourinho selection. Well, I think as I start,
45:32Lewis Bowden:you've just spent 67 million. I don't know, I'm not the manager.
45:34Reev:I find it interesting. Don't play it high when you do that.
45:38Lewis Bowden:Because I'm not talking to Arteta, I'm talking to you. I do find it interesting
45:42Reev:how much that result made non-Arsenal fans angry and rattled. Because the reason I'm rattled.
45:52Lewis Bowden:He put his hat down, man. The reason I'm so rattled and angry is because I believe you can win the league. You can. So do I, Tom. No, no, no. I'm sorry, you should. Am I allowed to talk? No, I'm not. No, because... No, no. Right. The reason it gets me so angry and so mad is because you are, you should and could win the league. I know, I agree, Tom. But under that fucking coward, you can't. But I described that
46:14Reev:because ultimately, ultimately, like, it was a poor game that I thought the quality was really poor. I thought our only real bright spots on the Arsenal side was Madwek and Zubemendi. And, well, Timber was good as well but that right hand side was decent but I agree we should have gone for it and laid out a different team 100 % but I do think there has been a slight overreaction especially on social media by this loss with the fact that it is the third game of the season and we did lose because it is
46:43Theo:everyone now acting
46:45Reev:like Arsenal have lost the title we're out of the title do you not have a level of frustration I am frustrated
46:50Theo:of course I'm frustrated I think we should have won but ultimately we
46:54Reev:look that free kick was fucking class. And sometimes you have to be like, yeah, but we shouldn't have allowed that free kick to win the game. Does that make sense? We shouldn't have allowed that free kick to win the game. Yes, well said. But I'm not as, I'm not as like, oh, everything's out the window. Everything's gone to shit now. Oh no, I'm not saying that. But that's what the reaction's sort of been on last session. I know it hasn't. It's yet again, psychologically,
47:13Lewis Bowden:it's massively, it's a psychological thing that you go to these places with the intent not to lose. You should go there with the intent to win. How many times did City used to go to Anfield and actually get beat like 3-2 or whatever but they went there to win and that's a sign of a champion like they actually go to these places thinking we're going to beat you I think Arsenal right player for player like man for man yesterday if you put out your best team you're probably better than Liverpool or at least as good as I agree with you I do think there's also narrative and I think that's the final like crossroad for Arsenal to go to one of these places and win if you would have done that I think then Arsenal go and win the title I'll actually do
47:53Reev:I do I completely hear what you're saying, but it's not like Arsenal don't ever get points and wins against these big six because we've actually got the most points
48:00Lewis Bowden:against the big six. You don't know, but by not losing, half of those, you're unbeaten in what, 22 games against the top six. But the main ones, like City, Liverpool, they're not wins away from home. You never win away from home. Sometimes you need, like, back in the day when you won the title at Man United, that's a 1-0 win away at Man United. Sometimes you have to get these, it's like that last step. I think the frustration is, it's like, it's not, you've came very close, but every season, it's not worked so far. But yet you stick, sticking to the same sort of plan when it comes to these games around like switching up.
48:33It's like, it hasn't worked in the past. I don't see why you don't switch up and think, right, instead of playing for this draw now and trying to get something from the game, because overall you do get a lot of points from playing the big six. But also, like, why not?
48:44Reev:I can understand why Eze wasn't throwing in from the start. I can't. I can't. I can't. Do you know, from like, he's fully fit,
48:50Lewis Bowden:He's been playing all season.
48:52Theo:You've just spent nearly 70 million on him. And we have an opportunity to play him because we have no 10 in that game. In his strongest position as well.
48:58Lewis Bowden:It's like...
48:58Theo:How many minutes did he get in there?
49:01Reev:I think he should have started. I'm just trying to help. I'm just trying.
49:06Theo:It is very... Obviously, like, we lost the game fucking great, but it's very hindsight-y as well, though. If it would have been a nil-nil...
49:14Lewis Bowden:Yeah, but my point is, he's gone there not to lose, and yet again... But you do have to... You may as well have gone there to try and win and lost. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Instead, you've gone there not to lose and lost.
49:25Reev:But I think Arteta's given Liverpool at home almost too much respect. Because they've lost there, what, four times the last four years. Exactly, that's the nail on the head.
49:37Lewis Bowden:Why is he giving them so much respect? You're as good as them. But there's only certain teams that can beat Liverpool at home. So their record's really good at home, but there's only certain teams that are capable to beat them at Anfield. You're one of them. And you're one of them. So you should take that with a pinch of salt, really. because Everton's Newcastle's are going to struggle.
49:52Reev:I see it more from the point of view as like, yeah, okay, we can moan and cry about this game all the time. But this is, if we're still going to win the league, which I think we can 100%, it's still very early. You have to look at that game and correct it and not do that again. So when we go to these places next, especially like City. It's happened for three, four years now. That's what I think, City coming up in a few weeks' time. I'm intrigued to see how we set up against them. And I think we have, and if we don't sit, if we don't go there and go for it, I think you have to be like, what are we actually doing here?
50:24Reev:Do you know what I mean? I agree. Because they're there for the tick and City as well. Like, both of them are games that you just could have easily won. Yeah, you're better than City.
50:32Theo:There's no way that Liverpool should have ended with a clean sheet in that game. No. Based on how bad their defence is. Yeah. How are we letting them not continue the goal?
50:40Lewis Bowden:Are you worse than Bournemouth going forward? Are you worse than... Absolutely not. In fairness, I think defensively Liverpool were better that game. They were better. Kyrkos Malewake had a great game and Kyrkos did well too but in fairness all that to defend pretty much was set pieces yeah that's true and even they were four
50:53Reev:Tom you know we've got the I think only Sunderland I saw some matches I think only Sunderland have the lowest amount of XG created from open play than Arsenal that's poor that that's really poor and actually
51:05Theo:I do think which is crazy because you've got
51:07Reev:do you know what's good is that you know last year if we went into that Liverpool game without Saka, Erdegaard and then obviously Sleba in the third minute I'd be really strong I'd be really stressed. But I do think the depth that we've now got is less of an excuse because these players can fill in way better. But there's no denying that we missed them. We did miss them. But the drop-off isn't as much.
51:29Lewis Bowden:You definitely miss them and yeah, you're right. But you wouldn't have played any different if they played. And you know that. You know full well you'd have set up exactly the same. You could have had Pele and you still would have set up like that because that's what Arteta's like.
51:41Reev:I thought it was we played slightly different in terms of do you see how many times Zubemendi put it over to Madweke? I haven't seen us do that in a long time you were trying to attack
51:47Lewis Bowden:Kirk as well but I haven't seen us
51:50Reev:do those sort of long balls before it's because they
51:53Theo:play such a high line he's picked on a weakness and gone for it Liverpool play such a high line
51:57Lewis Bowden:and their wing backs are so pushed up like that's that I mean but that's obviously a tactic you'd worked on but
52:04Theo:there's no excuses there I'm just fixtures because you have us you have us City Newcastle and then Man City I think it is like that is a That is a tricky run for you, isn't it?
52:17Reev:We've got Forest, Champions League, City, Port Vale, Newcastle, Olympia.
52:22Lewis Bowden:Yeah, that's an interesting run there. I completely hear what you're saying, and you are being very rational in the sense of it's not season. And I'm not saying you can't now go in the league, but I said it to you last week before the game, if you go there and win, I will sit here and go, I think Arsenal will win the league now. But I knew you wouldn't. I just knew you wouldn't go there. I knew you wouldn't go there to try and win. I feel for most neutrals, that was the opinion, wasn't it going into it? It wasn't a great game. And it's more annoying because I just think, I look at Arsenal, I think they've got everything you need to win a title and they won't go and do it because they don't allow themselves to...
52:56Lewis Bowden:But we can. We can.
52:57Theo:We can. I don't think you can. Do you think Arteta's just overly pragmatic and then relies too much on individual brilliance? A little bit.
53:06Lewis Bowden:And I think now it's become a bit too much with all the set pieces. I think you play for set pieces now, which is like crazy. with some of the talent you've got.
53:14Reev:That's what I'm hoping the likes of Eze when he does start games I'm hoping he takes away a bit of the alliance and set-piece and just let him flow. Let him do his thing. Do you know what I mean? Which is, I completely agree. It's like when Saka plays you just let him and he'll come up with a good.
53:29Theo:Did Eze just get 20 minutes as well? Yeah. And also when Saka is back
53:34Lewis Bowden:and say Eze does play Eze will, instead of Saka being doubled up on he might then just have one-on-one. You know when Dalman came on
53:41Reev:I know it was only a few minutes but what I liked about him is that he's not afraid to just fucking try. Yes, it wasn't great with the tackles he got on but at least he gave it a go to try and make something happen. That's what you want. That's what you need.
53:55Theo:Agree but you shouldn't be doing
53:56Reev:You shouldn't rely on a 15-year-old. But also you shouldn't be doing that
53:59Theo:at 1-0 down.
54:00Lewis Bowden:That's the issue. You shouldn't wait until you're 1-0 down to go, oh fuck, let's have a good one. But also we were so
54:05Reev:one-sided dominant again. We're all going madwecky like, come on, Martin.
54:08Lewis Bowden:Yeah. Oh yeah, Martin, Ellie, Jesus. and Jokka when you're on the break you don't even know where he's running
54:13Reev:who's hiding man right moving on to a segment I like to call can I go for a wee yeah go
54:21Lewis Bowden:yeah go for a wee are we still rolling are we still rolling keep this in for Arsenal let's argue let's all laugh let's it's not named the ABCDs whatever the bottom one is we argue we argue Arsenal's the worst and we go bang no dead serious like you say Jokeres dog shit Eze won't be playing in his best position Zubimendi we don't know straight face who else have they signed Kepa we'll be like Kepa what the fuck have you signed Kepa and you've still gone to Liverpool and lost yeah nice there you go guys bit of behind the scenes should we go from like second from bottom just to make it feel like it's realistic how about we start second from bottom and then actually actually now I think about it Jokeres was so much money yeah yeah yeah I'd rather Glenn Murray I'll be like well they've just found Vista who's better than Jokka is for less money
55:13Reev:right even though the transfer window guy shuts in seven hours and ten minutes when they see this it'll be shut but I think we have an idea what's happening like an Erzl might say luckily we got like some big ones through during the show so we know what's happening yes we have got some big ones through during the show but we said back in July that we would redo this and this time around we have listened to you lot and changed the tiers to D-C-B-A-S. I hate S. What is S? Superior. S tier. It's the best. Super, super, super cool. Yeah, you only really get it.
55:45Lewis Bowden:I feel like A should always be the top. It's funny because, can I just say... Ten Hag's just been sacked by Leverkusen.
55:52Reev:That's hilarious. Fucking hell. Third man United manager in a week. Yesterday, would you say... We're going to come on to it, but yesterday I would say Arsenal won the transfer window. But now today, I think Liverpool might have won it again.
56:04Theo:Kicking things off then with Wolves. Right, Wolvesies are...
56:09Lewis Bowden:They've got Furlopes. As the Black Country correspondent, they've signed a lot of unknowns, Wolves. Strand Larson on a permanent. They've kept... Well, they've signed and then kept Strand Larson. For now. But they've lost their two best players. And Samedo, by the way. Do you think keeping hold of Strand Larson... I think that's like a signing in itself. Well, they did sign him. How weird is that, by the way?
56:31Theo:Sign him in the window and then get rid of him if they were to do that. Yeah. This is a flip. Well, they've also signed Fabio Silva,
56:36Lewis Bowden:sold for 22 million. Great bit of business
56:39Reev:Who to Tom? Dortmund Would you say it's overrated?
56:42Theo:How does that make sense though? Are they signing him for 50 or 40?
56:46Reev:Do you think Fabio Silva is overrated?
56:47Lewis Bowden:No Because everyone knows he's shit But he's just been signed by Dortmund For 22 million pounds
56:52Reev:So Dortmund are a high level team They're a Champions League team Are they?
56:57Lewis Bowden:I think they are
56:59Reev:They are They are They're a Champions League team So obviously Dortmund rate him
57:03Lewis Bowden:No it's money laundering obviously Oh so you're saying he's Allegedly Maybe you played like 5D chess back then
57:11Reev:Mate every time There's some Fabio Silva news I get tweeted like mental Although
57:15Lewis Bowden:Maybe you were right Although Tommy Doyle Was a weird one to let go Because they've got no depth Do you know who Tommy Doyle is?
57:23Reev:Yeah Kevin Doyle's son What position did he play? Midfield Where?
57:29Lewis Bowden:On the left No On the right Samir Doyle Samir Doyle released Was he not decent? He was their captain He didn't want to sign a new contract Oh is it okay He was one of their best players last year. That's why I said that was a bad one to let go. Then 8 Nuri. But no money as well.
57:42Reev:I think C just because they kept Stratton Larson. And he's the difference to keeping them up. Yeah, they've signed Arias.
57:49Lewis Bowden:He's good. Fir Lopez, we don't know about that. Wolfie. Wolfie. And then they've also signed the fastest player in Serie A, the wing back. He's fucking hilarious, by the way. What's the West Ham going in the wing? Roadrunner. Mate, come on. And I was just kind of half watching. The ball got played over the top and I went, fucking hell. And then you booted it in the stand. I was like,
58:08Theo:they've got Tronor right back. I was like, it's fucking hilarious. You know when it's like,
58:13Reev:no. No. Go on. West Ham, lads. Wait,
58:19Lewis Bowden:so we just, because you said C, we're putting it in C. I think C's right. I agree.
58:24Reev:West Ham got Tadebo, Elhage, Juve, Walker Peters on a three. Callum Wilson is a good sign. Juve makes this a 10.
58:33Theo:Fernandes, he looked good in that game. Yeah. It's 42 mil. Hermanson's their number one keeping out which is crazy the thing is but they've lost Kudu's fucking very very good have they really replaced that ability yeah but he wasn't that good for them yesterday he got 55 mil for him Lee that's quite a good that's the same price as Whistler mate
58:49Reev:I think Callum Wilson's arguably one of their better signings just because if he stays fit if he stays fit the way he took his head it's a classic West Ham sign but it's a good
58:57Lewis Bowden:isn't the deal he only gets paid he's only on 5 grand a week unless he plays but if he plays it goes up to like 90 nah I think that's what the guy said on the overlap. I've seen loads of West Ham fans saying he's talking out his arse. I'm not sure though, but it will be something like that. Maybe not as good.
59:14Reev:They did do a lot of that for Barkley at some point, didn't they? It'll be something like that. I just doubt it's that massive of a jump.
59:19Lewis Bowden:Yeah, and they're keeping... Paqueta. They're keeping Paqueta, which is a big one. And Fulcrook's back. Fucking hell, that's down. Downgrade. Oh, I think C. Yeah. I think if you asked a West Ham fan, they'd go... They want more, definitely. Yeah. But again, the Fernandes one is a good one. You're on the right. He's back there. It's got Potter still. And they've just signed up for Gasser, who I don't know anything about. They're losing in a gorge and they're signing a guy from like Tulsa, I think. I can't remember who it was. Tulsa? Tulsa?
59:45Theo:What, Oklahoma? No, French one. Toulouse. Tulsa? You just called Toulouse Tulsa. Wait, who are they signing from Toulouse? Is it Cresswell or someone? Aaron Cresswell. Aaron Cresswell's gone to Stoke. No, it's someone. Tulsa. I only saw briefly today. Fucking hell, Lou. I'm out of transfer correspondence you need to get West Ham fans yeah I got mixed up wait for Cresswell from Tulsa mate he's gonna fucking he's gonna kill it is he
1:00:11Reev:Spurs Xavi Sillam Simmons Jaipelinha Kudus it's a good win though it's good isn't it brilliant yeah
1:00:18Theo:it's above it's above the other two is it not an A I mean Simmons Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus
1:00:24Lewis Bowden:Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus Kudus
1:00:25Reev:Kudus Kudus Kudus
1:00:31Lewis Bowden:Kudus I think that's, yeah, that's a really good win there. I think it's A. I'd go A. Really? Yeah.
1:00:36Reev:What more can they do? Because if he's like, okay, I know we're looking ahead, but Arsenal-Liverpool would be, can he have two in S? No, we're not going to, we'll get on to them. Are we talking about
1:00:46Theo:the inclusion of managers as well? Yeah, I guess so. Because I mean, if you sign them. Yeah. They did sign them, they paid them out. That's what I'm saying. that's true actually. Yeah, do you know what?
1:00:54Lewis Bowden:Very good point.
1:00:55Theo:Signing Thomas Frank. The thing is, It's funny enough, a couple of weeks ago, we were saying, oh, Tottenham, they never get the players to do what they want. Do you feel like now after the transfers that have been signed? Other than Eze and Henkepi, who obviously has gone to Arsenal as well, they haven't missed out on anyone they've gone for. I think everyone they've signed
1:01:14Lewis Bowden:improves them as well. Other than that Takai and Vuskovic, I don't know anything about. Tell's a young forward. He looked mental when he came on against Bolton. He's going to be depth, isn't he? He's not going to... But Kudas, Polina Simmons coming straight away as starters who improved them. Yeah. And have already improved them. So I think it's got to be A. Go on, you Spurs. Sunderland.
1:01:36Reev:Xhaka, Odingra. Active. End zone of fame. I mean, like... They've also signed another one today, another striker today. Yeah, the fullback, isn't it?
1:01:43Theo:Is that in case Gooney? Gertrude. You said it earlier. Yeah, it's Gertrude. Yeah, it's Gertrude. You said it earlier. No, it's a forward. Gertrude's a fullback.
1:01:49Lewis Bowden:Gertrude.
1:01:50Theo:Oh. It's not how he's... It's like Gio Retude or something like that.
1:01:53Lewis Bowden:I think he is. I swear the tweet said forward, unless I've read that wrong. Maybe I've been forward.
1:01:58Theo:They sell Bellingham for 32 mil. What a ripoff. They've been as active as they can be to try and stay in the Premier League. I think it's paid off at the moment. It depends how we're going to rank this
1:02:08Reev:in terms of... I think Sunderland... They're at a good go. It's kind of guesswork. I don't think A. I do think A. I feel like B. For a promoted side, it's as good as they could get. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree. Yeah, I agree. It's just mostly... Especially if you compare it to Burnley and Leeds. That's a good point, actually. It's probably the best tactic just to come and just get everyone in it. If they get relegated, though, they could be fucked. Unless they're all on one-year contracts. They'll be great clauses.
1:02:30Lewis Bowden:They've spent about£120 million. Like you said, there'll be wage deduction clauses and shit. But they have made£40 million on Watson and Bellingham.
1:02:39Reev:Forrest got rid of Ilanga. Endoy looks all right, doesn't he? Yeah, look. Well, they've got... I had an absolute fucking howler with a married husband. Mackity's good.
1:02:49Theo:Hutchinson's absolutely shit. The fact that Hutchinson is worth more than James McAtee is crazy.
1:02:53Lewis Bowden:I don't know anything about the guy from Wren. I've got Douglas Louise. Yeah, that's another good signing. I'd go with B.
1:02:58Theo:Yeah, it's B, innit? It's not A. It's been all right, innit? No, it's not it, yeah. He's got A, Zou. She's good as well for 10 mil. Well, the thing is, they might lose the manager if we see what happens over the international break. We can't say that now, though. We can't say that. We've got to do it based off right here, right now. Okay, let's all laugh at Newcastle. Well, let's remember, you put us in the lowest tier. I genuinely think A at this point. I think we've had a great wonder. Speak of Ramsey. No, we've strengthened every position.
1:03:22Reev:Ramsdale, Alanga. You've now got Valtemada, Visa. Look, we've got a new keeper in with Ramsdale. We've got Alanga on the wing. Chow, centre-back. Ramsey, Valtemada, Visa coming in. I think it's an A. And you're net positive with Ezekiel.
1:03:38Lewis Bowden:I do agree with you in that sense. However, in terms of value for money, is it not a B? Well, which ones stand out to you? that are well Volta Marder hasn't he only scored 14 league goals in his whole career he's paid 70 million that one's tricky because like all strikers across the market are on a premium so the thing is Jacob Ramsey you've spent 43 million on a back up midfielder Alanga you've spent 55 million on like a run of the mill but do you not Kenny no but these players let's say Ramsey that is good depth like you want to spend on a good depth for the Champions League season you've spent
1:04:14Theo:250 mil yeah we haven't spent about two and a half yeah have we before this. We haven't spent for two and a half years. On his piss-arse killing him. We haven't spent for two seasons. It's a good job we left, didn't it, really? That would have been 250 million quid down with these kicking up a fuss. Jokes aside, I think it's great. I mean, Wiltemar will see if that's a good deal as it goes on through the season. Ramsdale's great. We've strengthened everywhere. We need to strengthen. I think A's fair. A's fair. I'll give it A. Fair enough.
1:04:41Reev:You've tried, you've actually gone from last to A. Well, I think I said last time, I was like, I'm confident that we'll get it done. It's just been drama on it. And as always, below Sunderland on it. Can I read you out the names United have got rid of here? Garnaccio to Chelsea, Eriksen, Evans, Lindelof, Rashford. Lindelof's gone Villa, hasn't he? No, Villa, yeah. Sorry, Villa. He was released. They got him in a free agent. Yeah, he was a free agent. Lindelof's gone Villa, yeah. It's all right. That's a decent sign.
1:05:08Theo:But Hoyland as well, right? Hoyland's gone.
1:05:11Reev:He's gone to... He's a Lancer, isn't he? He's been here. Here we go to... Like 45 million future fee. Loan future fee. Loan obligation to buy is so funny. Everyone's loan. No one pays for anyone these days. Getting Garnaccio off the books is probably for the best. They've got rid of the players that were causing a bit of a rax over there. Also, not on here, but Anthony has just... 25 mil. He took a waged drop as well to sign for them. But they've signed. Mbwemo, Cunha, Sesko, and this Leon guy. And also, Martinez, it looks like.
1:05:42Theo:Yeah, I mean, Martinez is a good one too. With Man United, right, do you think they were better off going for these four big name signings or do you think they would have been better off with the overall... What's the Ranier thing that he said? Yeah, so would you think they needed quality or just quantity?
1:05:55Lewis Bowden:I think Benoit and Cunha definitely improved them immediately. I think Cesc is crazy. I've never hated him. But I think Martinez is an improvement. But I think they're still lacking a midfielder. Yeah. and I still you could argue Cesc wasn't a complete necessity and like yeah they then could have used that money and strengthened quite a few positions got their depth in
1:06:17Theo:it's pretty mental that they've signed a striker for 74 million pounds and then they still chose to substitute Zerxion before him
1:06:25Lewis Bowden:yeah I'd go yeah I'd go
1:06:29Theo:you might be shit it's C or B I think it's B I think in my opinion I don't I go towards C a little bit more just because I think Emi Martinez makes it a B just because if we're on about transfer windows they just recorded like what like a 60 million loss on Anthony in the space of like two seasons yeah but that's not
1:06:50Lewis Bowden:you can't we're not including that it is a transfer window though like they haven't recouped a good amount of money on a play like that is part of it I'd say they've got good money for him to be honest yeah no I agree it definitely could have been much worse oh yeah B's fair we're forgetting Martinez yeah yeah yeah if the Martinis comes in I think that does tip it over but currently if he doesn't come currently I'm going to scam it's interesting it's funny like the state of that club at the moment though like one of their best youngsters
1:07:16Reev:Colby Maynard is putting like a loan request he got denied he's coming to Albun I want Newcastle to sign him I reckon we make a last minute he got denied
1:07:24Lewis Bowden:no but then Albun come in I went yeah you can go oh really but like if they had let Maynard go just like they'll only let him go for a transfer Very weird that one is. Very weird. City.
1:07:38Reev:It's interesting, isn't it? Similar-ish to United, I think, B. But it's funny, before the season started, everyone was like, these signings are great. I mean, yeah, and they are. Reindeers is great signings.
1:07:51Lewis Bowden:Yeah, I think, objectively, like...
1:07:53Reev:Reindeer. They are.
1:07:54Lewis Bowden:But even him, since that Wolves game,
1:07:55Theo:he hasn't been very good, has he? It's been all right. It's just had a really good game. Two months now is all right. Yeah, he's injured. I know it doesn't affect the actual transfer itself, but...
1:08:02Reev:But you buy... Are they going to get Donnarumma in? Oh, yeah, Donnarumma. And Edison God. Imagine getting Trafford. That's your number one. And they go,
1:08:09Lewis Bowden:I don't think Trafford was signed. I think they only signed Trafford because of the buyback clause. It was such a good deal. And he's so young. England international. It was supposed to be like Trafford wasn't supposed to start the season. Yeah, it was supposed to be second season.
1:08:22Reev:If they're signing Donnarumma, who's not old, by the way, he's still only 18. Like, when's James Trafford? When's James Trafford going to be like a starter? That's fair. But the thing is, they might just turn around for a good profit. but they got them cheap. Yeah. They can literally sell them next year and make a profit. Yeah.
1:08:36Lewis Bowden:That's a very good point. It's all like, it's all B. It's all B. Transfer correspondent. Yeah. He's a man with feelings. Yeah. I'd go B. Yeah. Yeah, B. Could they do with anyone else, do you think? Any other position strengthener?
1:08:48Reev:A centre-half. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're going to let go to the country. Actual defender. Yeah, they're getting rid of more centre-backs. Yeah, but they do have
1:08:55Lewis Bowden:a lot of centre-backs. Maybe they don't need a centre-back, actually. They don't know their partner should do that.
1:09:02Theo:He doesn't seem to fancy him at the minute, does he?
1:09:04Reev:I don't know. Liverpool, guys. Well, I wonder what this is. Has Mastilli been on the bench at all? Been on the bench?
1:09:12Theo:Yeah, I've not seen him in like... Yeah, he's been on the bench in the games. Are you sure? Yeah, I've seen his name on the team. Is this like one of the best winners in like fucking recent history?
1:09:21Lewis Bowden:Am I being a hater here for saying it's potentially slightly overrated? How bad Kerkes has been? Wurtz hasn't really done it yet. No, but he's played three games and he was good in one of them. like in a new team Kerkers so like I think that's a bit hard against Arsenal I think he was good he was I think Kerkers
1:09:42Theo:he just needs time actually he doesn't have time
1:09:45Reev:to sort himself out because he's a Premier League player he's at Liverpool you need to sort yourself out now but it's a big
1:09:53Lewis Bowden:I think sometimes we get cloudy just because you've spent a lot and bought a lot doesn't mean it's a great window let's go through it though
1:10:01Reev:So, Kerk is a good signing. He is a good signing. I think it's a good signing. Is he, though? If you look at the Bournemouth, Kerk is a good signing. His ceiling will be.
1:10:09Lewis Bowden:So is Solanke at Bournemouth when he's been, look at him now at Spurs. Been injured. What do you mean he's been injured? Solanke was injured a bit. He's had injured, but he hasn't been a great success, has he, Solanke?
1:10:20Reev:And Kerk has hasn't, yeah, but he's very...
1:10:21Lewis Bowden:So would you look back on the Solanke deal and go, that was a great signing? No, no, no. That was a good signing. You think it was a good signing for 67 million for Slanky. No, that was hard. hit the ground running. Well, yeah, for two years. Like, this is one point. Like, Verts. See, that's one you trust to become good. 116 million. That's a British transfer record and he's had one good half the second half against Arsenal. And I've said, I think he's amazing. I think watching him, but he may not have the physicality for the Premier League. We don't know.
1:10:48Theo:That's why he went off. Everyone's going, oh, he's injured. And then the post-match is like, oh, apparently he's just saying he's never felt cramped like it. so he's clearly never used to I think he's coming to be like what the hell is the Premier League about there's always that period though where he has to adapt to a new league a little bit even when Caicedo joined Chelsea everyone was like oh 100 million
1:11:06Reev:but now he's turned out to be one of their best players ever
1:11:09Lewis Bowden:I don't think that's true
1:11:09Theo:yeah he started very poorly at Chelsea
1:11:11Lewis Bowden:no he was
1:11:13Reev:no that's not I know he's played when they signed him
1:11:16Lewis Bowden:everyone went brilliant signing yeah but then then he played shit for the first six months
1:11:21Reev:that's my point it is so early on these players you do need to adapt
1:11:25Theo:whereas Virts could be the same thing. First six months be a stinker and then next year.
1:11:29Reev:I think he will, definitely. But right now, it's not that good. I think it's a good sign. 29.5 mil is good. Starting right back. Yeah. Eketike just looks good. Yeah, Eketike is a great. He's been arguably their best.
1:11:43Theo:Eketike, Ezek.
1:11:44Reev:They've got probably the best striker. Is Eketike going to start in the world? Because you can't drop Gatko at the moment.
1:11:51Lewis Bowden:I don't know. I think long term, Eketike.
1:11:54Reev:Is it good to have two strikers who want to start.
1:11:58Lewis Bowden:Unless they play two up front, it's not. I'd drop Salah and play them two up front. And that isn't a joke. Maybe they go 4-4 fucking two. Or Ekite can be right.
1:12:05Theo:It'd be 4-2-4, wouldn't it? 4-4. Just play a... Something like that, yeah. Just play a club football and try and score four a game.
1:12:13Reev:I can't believe they've ended with these. Like a 4-2-2-2.
1:12:16Theo:Yeah.
1:12:16Reev:Also, by the way, they've got Chiesa who they kept holding him in. He's looked all right. He's been all right off the bench. He's done all right. They sold Darwin Nunes, got off the books. Kelleher Trent Kwanza Luis Diaz Ondal Nunes
1:12:29Lewis Bowden:56 million for him It's pretty good Recouping I'll tell you what Based on the money They've bought in And sold Luis Diaz
1:12:35Reev:65 million
1:12:36Lewis Bowden:Bendoke as well By that That doesn't make sense It says here They sold Bendoke To Liverpool For 25 million Yeah Tyler Morton Actually do you know what We're on about How much money They've spent Next spend Is not a lot What is it after
1:12:50Reev:The EZAC transfer though
1:12:51Lewis Bowden:About 150 Trent Down But also 10 million
1:12:54Reev:They have spent
1:12:56Lewis Bowden:400 million Yeah For you You're not heard What Without Isaac With Isaac How much have they got back Well I don't know And also Don't forget They didn't sign anyone last summer It's funny
1:13:08Reev:Reeves said a point Off air Just now You know We talk about this billion That Arteta spent Since he last won a trophy It was like Six years ago Five years ago Liverpool have almost spent Half a billion In one transfer window
1:13:19Theo:Yeah like two months In two months Yeah
1:13:20Reev:They're going to win everything That is mental
1:13:23Theo:Yeah, I mean, the expectation on them now is crazy. But they should just clean sweep.
1:13:29Reev:They've broken the British transfer record twice in two months.
1:13:32Theo:They are an S, aren't they? That's crazy. Realistically, they're an S. The first time was so nice. If they manage to somehow sneak Geahy over, it doesn't look like he is. If they sneak Geahy over by the time this is out. Yeah, go S. That's what you do.
1:13:46Reev:That's the way to do it, though. You win the league. You just build when you're on top. That's the old Man United model.
1:13:51Lewis Bowden:And City. Win the league. they're going to sign the best player in the league they've been really good with how they just get the deals done nice and quick Bosh must be nice yeah
1:13:58Theo:and the thing is every transfer target they've gone after they've got which I mean you can't deny is unbelievable must be nice yeah really fucking nice
1:14:07Reev:moving on put him in S please J-Dog yes
1:14:10Lewis Bowden:lose lose lose I think I'd go B
1:14:14Reev:Longstaff Calvert-Lewin yeah I'm not sure
1:14:17Lewis Bowden:what more they can get that stack looks decent as well but the rest I just don't like I don't know much about Halvert-Lewin had a rough debut didn't he
1:14:26Theo:they've given it a go but it's not great and they are still trying to get more over the line Longstaff's good signing Boca 4 for 80 I think he is like as bad as our game with Leeds was Longstaff was fucking unbelievable have they had a
1:14:37Reev:better transfer window than West Ham
1:14:40Theo:er yeah I think so yeah for what they needed isn't it funny but Leeds
1:14:45Reev:we don't know do we look at City's transfer window
1:14:48Theo:and we're comparing it to Leeds which relative if they're in. Yeah, it is, but... You have to. Actually, yeah, maybe.
1:14:54Reev:I don't know if it is B. I think it's C. Okay, yeah, maybe when he goes in. I think the level of player they've brought in is just not good enough. Yeah, when you look at it, I don't know who else they're bringing in who I'm, like, confident in. Calvert-Lewin's their number one striker. No, he's not even. Not even. No, he's not.
1:15:06Lewis Bowden:Is this Okafor good? He's not going to start for him. Yeah, C. I think C. Moving on to Fulham. I mean, D. Yeah, it's probably the worst, isn't it? I don't know.
1:15:18Reev:They bought Le Comte. I'm just going to say that's it. Surely they get Sterling before this deadline day is over. It just screams fucking all of them, doesn't it? It's like when they got Willian in. Better get Willian back. He's released. Get Sterling. Better get him back. Get Sterling and make him play really good again. Oh. Get Sterling
1:15:34Lewis Bowden:and make him play really good again.
1:15:36Reev:They got Josh King spawned out of nowhere. Exactly.
1:15:39Lewis Bowden:It's only D just because nothing's happened. There's not much we can say or do. Fucking now.
1:15:43Reev:Yeah, transfer window without any transfers. Everton. That's probably the worst, doesn't it? Everton have a good summer. A. A. Yeah. Very good. Dibbling, Grealish, Doosbyall. The thing is... Barry, Alcaraz.
1:15:53Theo:With the Everton one, it's the intent that makes it an A, right? They've gone out for players that can elevate them to a different level in the Premier League. With Grealish, were there any other Prem side who were in for him? Because it's like, I don't recall... That's what I mean. He's obviously easily good enough, which everyone knew, but like...
1:16:11Lewis Bowden:I'm not sure if people knew he was available for loan. That's probably why. Yeah. I know like Napoli was sniffing around and stuff he comes into most teams in the league
1:16:20Reev:I don't know him but I guess for Grealish though the fact that Everton came in for him is actually a deal where he lives as well so far yeah well big club new stadium exciting doesn't have to move project in it so it made sense didn't it
1:16:34Theo:yeah Crystal oh no Tottenham Tottenham wait they're in again oh we've done Tottenham we've done Spurs there's two Spurs
1:16:41Reev:there's two Spurs put them in I thought it was Crystal Palace put them in a ooh Ooh, that's an interesting one. They haven't signed anyone again.
1:16:47Theo:Pina looks good. Pina, yeah, but - He looked really good yesterday.
1:16:49Reev:Sosa and Benitez like - Yeah, this is a - They lost Eze, they're about to lose Gehi. Yeah. And even if you keep Gehi, it means you're gonna lose them on - Probably D. You're gonna lose them on a free most likely. So you either cash in for 40 mil or maybe 20 mil in January. A good D.
1:17:05Theo:Are they not in for more people today? It's D, it's D. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
1:17:08Reev:We can only go off what's happened. No, I know. They might pull out some major signings tonight. I agree it's D. I think they have. Do you know what? They have to. It's a bit unlikely.
1:17:15Lewis Bowden:They have to. It's too late. No, they will.
1:17:18Reev:Kanji will be a good signing if they pull him off.
1:17:19Lewis Bowden:Yeah, I think they'll get a couple in today.
1:17:22Reev:But at the moment, D. Chelsea. Fucking hell. By the way, have you seen many players?
1:17:28Theo:Their list of sellings. Their list of sell. It's crazy. On Chelsea. Felix for 44 milt hours. He couldn't do 36. Breaking news on Chelsea. Bayern Munich are now back in talks for fucking Nicholas Jackson, apparently. So he's in there. So he's mid-flight back to London. I don't think that you can give Chelsea as high as people suggest because Manwreck in for 52
1:17:49Reev:they're not replacing
1:17:50Theo:the positions that they actually need Petrovic 25 million for Petrovic
1:17:53Lewis Bowden:mate they have bought in about 250 million this summer
1:17:57Theo:and they still haven't got a goalkeeper that's worth challenging but they've sold
1:17:59Reev:loads as well Tom
1:18:01Lewis Bowden:do you know what I mean? I've sold 250 million
1:18:04Reev:pounds I hear Garnaccio as a signing as well hang on let's go for it Gittins good signing he looks alright Giao Pedge Giao Pedge was a great signing
1:18:11Theo:yeah
1:18:12Reev:Liam did that but he's injured doesn't matter it's a good signing good signing Hato who's the fuck is Hato
1:18:17Lewis Bowden:Ajax centre half he's good Estadio
1:18:19Reev:30 million looks like very good don't know where to go got an Acho it's a good signing but it's another winger
1:18:25Lewis Bowden:I don't like it it's not bad for 40 million but he's age and he's young as much as we hate him as a person he's a good winger my only theory is hopefully he doesn't start spitting his dummy out at Chelsea now if he doesn't get into the starting line up because that's the worst thing you can have is someone being a dickhead tough to break in at Chelsea I know that's what I mean There's so much competition for him. They do need a striker. I'd go B.
1:18:46Theo:I'd go B. They do need a striker. And they need a goalkeeper. And they still haven't sorted that issue out. I'd go B. Fair enough.
1:18:53Reev:Burnley. It's like Tom said,
1:18:54Theo:you can't just keep buying players. It's not a good window to spend loads of money. You have to actually pick the players. Dubravka, Brogier, good. It's Trafford for Dubravka.
1:19:02Lewis Bowden:Carl Walker, apparently. Carl Walker. He got turned inside out the weekend again. Anthony. He's actually not bad, that Anthony. He's good, isn't he?
1:19:08Reev:He's decent. Marcus Edwards from Sporting. Yeah. I didn't realise they got him. Fleming? You're just saying names. Zion Fleming?
1:19:18Lewis Bowden:I'd go see.
1:19:19Reev:Yeah, similar to Leeds, isn't it? They're doing all right.
1:19:22Lewis Bowden:Although Brun Larson's good. And that, a good Chukwu. Yeah. From Chelsea. He's not bad. Do you know what? It's not a better window. Oh, easily. Is it a better window than Chelsea City? Yeah, we can't put them that hard.
1:19:33Theo:No, it's not better than Chelsea. Is it better than Leeds, though? That's the thing. I think... I think they're similar. Yeah, it's about the same.
1:19:40Reev:Yeah, go on then. Brighton They have sold A Dinger, Giaulpedro Esther Pinyan Evan Ferguson's gone on loan Which is interesting Hopefully he can reunite his career Reunite? Reignite
1:19:53Theo:Lamptey's gone to Fiorentina
1:19:55Reev:Yeah
1:19:56Theo:That's another£100 million Selling window from them as well They've got a Di Kuyper Who looks decent Costalus But the problem is all Going to be classless This is the problem All of these sign-ins We don't know anything about Should we just put them in S They're going to be classless
1:20:10Lewis Bowden:They're going to be an S. Watson's a good signing. No, realistically. It can't be. But they're going to be... No, no. I'd go C. It's C. It's C. It's C.
1:20:20Reev:It's C. I think for Brighton.
1:20:22Theo:Stop being silly, Lewis. Brentford have got Utara.
1:20:26Reev:Yeah, he's good. Good signing. Henderson. Keller have very good experience, I guess. Keller's a great signing. Keller's a good signing.
1:20:32Lewis Bowden:Utara, I think... They've overpaid, but he's good. They sold him for 71 million.
1:20:37Reev:Norgaard for 15. Flecken. I'd go B. Whistler gone for 55. I'd go B Do you think they need another striker now? Yeah they definitely do Probably I can't remember Thiago's right but you can't rely on Thiago Thiago's class He's like a new signing this year You can't rely on him though Why?
1:20:51Lewis Bowden:He wants to get injured Do you need a backup? He got one big injury last year They're going to get a striker in I can't remember his name but the link was one player who's Is it a B? I think it's a C It's not B I think it's a C Yeah it's a C Really?
1:21:03Theo:They're weaker than they went into the window Lewis is right Especially with Visserat as well C
1:21:10Reev:Bournemouth Diakarte, Petrovic Bendoke Truffaut looks good for 14 mil
1:21:15Lewis Bowden:they've bought in again
1:21:16Reev:Truffaut looks alright for 14 mil doesn't he what a selling one really
1:21:20Theo:42 100 210 mil they've sold they've sold their back line
1:21:26Reev:that Hodgson
1:21:27Theo:is sold for like 150 million and yet Sanessi and Diakarte look actually alright as well Poison, Kirkus and Barney all went for 40 to 50 like they signed them for like 20 million
1:21:37Reev:and sold them on it's mental their sales have been class They sold Django for 42 million as well. Exactly. Their sales have been classed, but have they replaced their defence? They look all right at the minute. If Zanessi stays fit, then I think they have.
1:21:51Theo:I could be. Diacarte and Truffaut look more like B. I suppose no one can think. Yeah, that is mental, by the way. How has no one expressed interest in Semenya?
1:21:58Lewis Bowden:I'd go B just because of how much money they've brought in again. I think it was a firm definitely not from them, though. They've signed Truffaut, who looks better than Kerkis. for 14 million I don't know if that's true so far he looks better so far this season
1:22:12Theo:he's better no no yeah Kirk is at Liverpool but Kirk is at Bournemouth like it's not yeah
1:22:19Reev:do they need to buy anyone Evan Nilsson's looking good by the way I like him a lot I think another striker perhaps back up Evan Nilsson yeah
1:22:28Theo:but yeah good winner I mean they've made 200 plus million off sales so Aston Villa a rough one should we just throw them in D it's no other one yeah it's like Who do they buy For an under-by-sp They've got Sancho Marco Bizot Oh Marco Bizot There you go And they also Sancho Should we move them up For that
1:22:47Lewis Bowden:D Definite D Terrible window For them But again They were kind of Restricted So it's not Completely their fault Arsenal C S No You're probably Looking around Up until yesterday
1:23:01Reev:Up until yesterday We were talking about Arsenal won the transfer window Who was on about I feel like you were talking about it. We were.
1:23:08Theo:Is ST not reserved for just one team, though? I think you're looking at the BC region. It's not B or C, Lou. Fucking hell. Do you not think R or C?
1:23:15Lewis Bowden:What? What? Why use? Kepa. What did you? Scheidt. Zubamendi, don't know yet. 51 million. He looks fast. You pay 50 million on Norgard, not going to play. Madweki, 52 million for a backup right winger. Yeah. When you best play the right winger. Didn't sound Chelsea. Mosquera, yeah, we don't know.
1:23:30Reev:Two best transfer winners have been Liverpool and Arsenal.
1:23:32Lewis Bowden:Jokeres just went 63 million on a pick. Jokeres is a howler. Eze, 6-7 million on a backup left wing, or backup 10. He's going to play left wing. Are we being gaslit right now? Yeah, I think we are. Theo, think. How is that a C? No, no, no. Think. You signed Jokeres for less than what we signed Wisser, and Wisser is a better player, more Premier League proven. Why wouldn't you just go get Wisser in a Premier League proven player?
1:23:48Theo:We signed a nine when we needed a nine. Is it? Jokeres looks horrendous. Yeah, but this is the same argument we just used about Verts. There's every chance that they come good later. No, no. Mascara, Mascara, 13 million. Hincapi. No, the same way you get plus points for a good signing. This is a fucking clock. I'm not having a fuck you. Fuck you.
1:24:05Lewis Bowden:I'm going to kill you all. Same way you get plus points for a good signing. You get negative points for a bad signing. If you weigh£60 million on Jokeres, then you get him down great.
1:24:16Theo:How can you say they're all bad signings? What if Valtemar gets two goals this season? Well, we've already reared us. It's irrelevant.
1:24:22Reev:You're telling me Nukov's had a better window than Arsenal? Yes. No, you haven't. Yes. Shut up. Fuck off. We've signed two better strikers on you.
1:24:31Theo:A minimum. It's S with...
1:24:32Lewis Bowden:No way. On the Liverpool's level. Mate, you've spent how much money? Only we're talking about,
1:24:37Reev:literally yesterday, we said Arsenal had the best window. You said that? Liverpool signed these back. Who said that? All of us. No, I never said that. Oh, shut up, you gaslighting bastard. You threw... When did I say that? You threw 70 million... Mick, you threw 70 million down the drain for Jokeres. You don't know that yet. You don't know that yet. Oh my God,
1:24:55Lewis Bowden:he looks like somebody gets 63 and a half million. You don't know that yet either.
1:24:59Theo:That's so unfair.
1:24:59Lewis Bowden:55 million pounds. Come on. 63 and a half million pounds At least we've seen Jokeres And he's shit Yeah Vultimato's unknown Wait no Okay no Stop shouting Genuinely Who's better Jokeres or Wisa Jokeres
1:25:13Reev:No he's not You're blinded by delusion I think Visa Is probably the better striker Cost 10 million less 10 million less
1:25:20Lewis Bowden:And he's signed for us And you even said They're overpaid For Visa
1:25:24Reev:But Jokeres was way more In demand than Visa That doesn't mean I'm a better player There's many in demand players You literally have just used this whole excuse of the strikers having their raised price. Man United wanted him, they want everyone.
1:25:38Theo:Who else wanted Jokeres? He's got 54 goals last season, mate. He's got 54 goals last season, mate.
1:25:41Reev:He's got 54 goals last season, mate. He's obviously not shit in football. I don't think for you, no, you didn't need him. He's a great signing, mate. You didn't need him? He's fucking Eberiche Eze. Oh, God. He's a great signing.
1:25:49Lewis Bowden:What? Yeah, she spent six, seven million on a ten when you cook captain's a ten. He's not going to get dropped. This Jokeres here is so forced. It's so crazy. I'll give you Eze. Eze, decent signing. Okay, decent signing But you have to You have to mark You have to mark You have to mark You down for bad business You don't know It's bad business What is bad business You don't Are you mental right now The agenda is crazy Keppa for five
1:26:09Theo:Is good backup That's embarrassing Keppa's actually like Pricks Keppa The fact that you let him In the building We bought one of the most Prolific strikers in Europe And they released a video
1:26:19Lewis Bowden:For Keppa That's so fucking embarrassing They are the most embarrassing
1:26:23Theo:Jamie, you're in control Of the maths, mate Put us an A Oh, absolutely not They're not going, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Fucking hell. It's A, it's 100%. It's C, it's C. I think we give you a C. It's not a D or C, lad. I would say D, but because of Eze,
1:26:37Lewis Bowden:because I like Eze, I'd say C. Yeah, but Lewis, Lewis, Eze, what is his best position? Yeah, he's not, yeah. He's not going to play there. It's not worse than Nottingham Forest. And also, Lewis.
1:26:46Reev:He's going to be a fucking footballer. Lewis, no. You can say that for Palace, what's his best position? Was he in the 10 on the left? He played more on the left for Palace. He was like a left 10.
1:26:53Theo:That's how Palace play. He still played on the left.
1:26:55Reev:No, well, I'm not...
1:26:57Lewis Bowden:Just because he's played on a slight position
1:26:59Reev:doesn't mean a bad transfer. No. Yeah, it is. You've spent 67 million on a 27-year-old. By the way,
1:27:06Lewis Bowden:to bench him.
1:27:07Theo:Yeah. He's just benched 70. That's not his fault for being... That's not his fault for being... He's just... He's going to start the next game.
1:27:13Reev:I'm not saying it's ESL, but as a club... Is ESL going to be benched this season? Yes, clearly.
1:27:18Lewis Bowden:One game. You've only one game. game of the season so far he's on the bench you've just spent 90 million on Eze and he's on the bench you're fucking delirious you have just spent you've just spent 110 million on Eze just to put him on the bench against your biggest rivals for the title how's that a good signing how's that a good signing he's not 110
1:27:38Theo:I wholeheartedly disagree we've bought we've bought players for positions we needed that can't be a bad no you haven't here we have you need a left winger
1:27:46Lewis Bowden:where is he
1:27:47Theo:we have a left winger who Eze he's not a left winger he can play there you've spent
1:27:52Lewis Bowden:118 million on Eze who is quite clearly a 10
1:27:56Theo:stop increasing the price when you
1:27:58Lewis Bowden:when your club captain is a 10 who I think is overrated and fucking shit anyway so Eze should play in that not only did he not play in that game it's not his fault it's not his fault you signed him we're right in the club
1:28:10Reev:Jim Mendy is such a good sign you don't know that yet you don't know that yet we don't know we do know that he's been one of our better players this season You spent 500 million in one transfer window. No, we haven't. And you fucking lost to Liverpool. You're lying.
1:28:23Lewis Bowden:You spent 128 million on Eze, a 27-year-old, who sat on the bench against your title rivals. And because of Eze, you're going to put your Zip EOS to you. Make it make sense.
1:28:33Theo:We bought a player for every position we needed. It can't be less than Sunday. The striker you signed wouldn't get in to 15 of the 20. You understand me? Newcastle have had a better window than Arsenal. Okay, let's go through. Wisser, better than Jikarez. Walter Marder, better than Jikarez. Alanga, better than Ezio.
1:28:54Reev:Votten Marder is not better than Jokic. You don't even know Votten Marder is. Alanga, better than Ezio. Ramsey, everyone about Premier League proven, better than Zubamendi. Ramsey, better than Kepa. How long do I have to go on for?
1:29:05Lewis Bowden:Plus, your standards should be higher. Newcastle in terms of signings. Which makes it more embarrassing for them. You cannot claim Votten Marder than Jokic. No, no, no, no. I've got 14 guys in the Bundesliga. I know we seriously scored 54 in Portugal. What might have scored more than Eketika?
1:29:20Theo:He did it against Man City. Oh, and Volta Madre signed it in Germany. He scored 14 league goals in his life.
1:29:26Reev:Who's that? Jokic didn't score one goal against the top six in Portugal. It's embarrassing. Jokic's got more league goals in two months than Volta Madre's been in his fucking life. Do you think Eketika is better than Jokic? We're not talking about Eketika. Volta Madre scored more goals than Eketika in that league. He's going to come in and be better than Jokic. By the way, that is, is it true?
1:29:44Lewis Bowden:Jokere didn't score a single goal against the top six in Portugal last season. That is true. You spent 141 million on Eze when all he's done is sit on the bench against Liverpool. What is the point? It's got to be D. It's got to be C or D. It's C or D. It's got to be C or D. It's C or D. Stop, lad. I'm glad I'm so glad. I'm glad I'm so glad I'm so glad. It's 400 mil gone down. Jamie, this is my show.
1:30:06Reev:The Reeves show. I will... I will... It's our show, by the way. You're not allowed. You're fired. Fired.
1:30:13Theo:We can give them C. You're pointing at me
1:30:15Reev:I fucking own it
1:30:16Theo:Fuck it I'll find myself I'm out I think it's C Azzy Azzy What's the word A neutral You're not neutral You said Azzy It was 128 million pounds No 143 million pounds
1:30:26Lewis Bowden:You're paying Azzy Azzy Truce We'll put you in B It's A It's not A It is It's got him cappy
1:30:34Reev:There's Norway He's got a left sided centre half He can play a left back It is a mental Genuinely right Out of Kepa
1:30:41Lewis Bowden:Zubamendi Norgard Madweki Mascara Jokeres Eze how many of those are starters for you this season Zubimendi Jokeres how many Eze Eze's not a starter mate he will start he'll start the left he's not currently a starter
1:30:55Reev:he will so why didn't he start yesterday 3 or 4 I don't fucking know go speak to Arteta why he didn't start yesterday I'm telling you now Eze will be a starter for Arsenal Football Club this season I'm telling you now and if you think I'm wrong
1:31:05Theo:you're fucking stupid by the end of the season he'll replace Martinelli 100 % do you think he's going to start this season I don't know do you think he'll start I don't know yes or no
1:31:14Reev:Do you think he's going to start Yes or no Before yes for that No no no no Yes or no Will Eze start for Arsenal this season Probably not Will he start again Is he going to be a starter Is he going to be a starter Before yesterday Yes or no
1:31:24Theo:Answer the question
1:31:25Reev:And go Answer the question Before yesterday Oh my god Is he capable of saying yes or no
1:31:30Lewis Bowden:Before yesterday I would have said yes
1:31:31Reev:Why are you saying so many syllables After yesterday I'm not sure What's with the extra syllable I don't get it I'm not sure No yes or no Is he going to be a starter for Arsenal this year The question is Is he going to play in his Yes or no Yes but out of position
1:31:40Theo:No no no that's it That's all I wanted to hear
1:31:42Reev:Yes but out of position
1:31:44Theo:Give him B
1:31:44Reev:Put him behind You haven't been better than Ballmer Yeah we have They're not in B
1:31:49Lewis Bowden:You haven't been better than Ballmer City, Chelsea, Forest No you haven't I don't think he's been better Than West Ham I genuinely think You're lucky to be in B You're gaslighting What are you on about You've thrown 70 million down And he's not going to be Gaslighting
1:32:00Reev:He's mental Yikarez is going to be Remembered at the same level As like the Mudrick And Anthony signings You don't know that
1:32:06Theo:Mudrick can still come good He's not That's true You're starting striker who you think is going to play all season might end up with five Premier League goals. Actually, by the way,
1:32:15Lewis Bowden:I'll give it yours. He's got two already. Mate, your lucky Avicis got injured because he'd have been your starting strike within about two months.
1:32:25Theo:Anyway, now, guys, moving on to, as it's the end of the transfer window, we've obviously just spoken about all the players that have signed. We're going to build our ultimate Premier League 11 of 25-26, but the maximum one player per team stipulation is in order. It's a crazy team.
1:32:38Reev:It's a crazy looking team. Yeah, man.
1:32:39Theo:He wants to go fast Okay I will Right One player per team Everyone follow the rules Okay good In goal I have Jordan Pickford Whoa A back four of Munoz Virgil van Dijk Murillo And Anthony Robinson Stinky Very good Murillo
1:32:57Reev:I like the pronunciation though
1:32:58Theo:Murillo
1:32:59Reev:Munoz the Palace pick you know
1:33:02Theo:He's excellent mate He's really good
1:33:04Reev:Midfield three of Caicedo
1:33:06Theo:Bruner G And Bruno Fernandes And the front three of Saka, Haaland and Semenyo.
1:33:12Lewis Bowden:Wait, who's your middle three? Caicedo, Bruno G and Bruno Fernandes. Caicedo, Bruno G, Bruno Fernandes. That's balanced. That's balanced. I mean, Bruno has to stinker. What? He's fucking shit. He's seen him. No, he's in the 10. He's in the 10. He's playing in the 10.
1:33:26Theo:I've played him in the 10. That's the way he plays. He scored a penalty in the 10.
1:33:31Lewis Bowden:Whatever. Whatever. I actually think my team's fucking unbelievable. Yours is right. You have to go last. Okay, fair enough. Go on, Lou. I think I forgot to put a Man United player in but I think that's a good thing I don't have a Man United player on my team I have to force it In goals I've got Sells from Forest then we've got Munoz Palace Van Dijk You do know you can't have three Newcastle players by the way Yeah So that's where we've got Longstaff Wilson Munoz Van Dijk Romero and Robinson then we've got Belaba Bruno G Cole Palmer Saka Haaland and we're going to play Semenyo on the left That's what I did Yeah Well I think that's the best team That's a bit stinky Can I read your thing again It's not stinky.
1:34:07You rushed through it, I didn't really hear the name. What's stinky there? That's fucking beast mode.
1:34:11Theo:Believe it, Bruno G. Interesting. I haven't got a Brighton player. Yeah. Me neither. You don't have a Blaber.
1:34:18Reev:I've got a better player than him in midfield. So have I. In goal, I've got Pickford. I've got right back up Pedro Porro, centre-halves, that's Spurs and Everton, Milenkovich, Van Dijk, and Truffaut. Milenkovich, Forrest, Van Dijk, Liverpool, and Truffaut, Bournemouth. Ooh. Midfield three. It's sort of like a flat three, I call it. Oh. Kai Sader at Chelsea. Typical Arsenal. Wharton at Palace. I'm surprised no one had him in there. And then Bruno G at Newcastle. Okay. And then a front three of Saka, Haaland, and I'm playing Bowen on the left. Oh, I forgot Bowen. Bowen on the left. That's good, yeah.
1:34:48Reev:He's a good left winger, isn't he? Oh, like Semenya is. He can't play there, though. Come off it. You literally just said you're playing Semenya out of position. You come for me for Bowen. Fuck off. He's an out of position, though, for Semenya.
1:34:58Theo:Semenya can play both left and right. Oh, get over it.
1:34:59Reev:Bowen can do a job there. Owen never plays on the left, ever. I don't care. Should I say sorry? No. You've got to apologise, mate. Okay, right. Are you ready for the message? Guys, we've got the correct answers now, so don't shout at us.
1:35:12Lewis Bowden:Pickford. Whoa. From Everton. We know. I've got one right. I'll see how many you get right. I am just double-checking. No, no, no, no. Two players from the same team. Timber. Valk. Timber's your Arsenal player? Yes. Van Dijk. Yes. Romero. Cucurella
1:35:32Theo:Oh my god You used the spot For Chelsea That is Is it a Palmer Or Caicedo And Cucurella
1:35:38Reev:He's the best left back In the league In the world actually I think he's underrated But we'll discuss that next week I can't believe that
1:35:44Theo:You've sacked off Caicedo After all the lovely Because I don't need to
1:35:46Lewis Bowden:Because this is my midfield I've got Adam Wharton Yeah good choice Tenali And Cunha Yeah I've got Where you playing Cunha You're fucking weird man He's positioned You're trying too hard, buddy. Trying too hard there. How? Trying to just be different. That's his position. He went Kunio over Parma, by the way. He could have had Truff at a left back. Well, I can't have Truff at a left back. So I've got Bowen on the right, his position. Marlon and Semenyo. Semenyo left wing! I got four right. I got four right.
1:36:21Theo:You might have the worst team. Why have you gone fucking Cucurella over Caissero, mate? That is crazy.
1:36:27Lewis Bowden:The drop off from another left back from Cucurella I think is massive. Mate, you stink. Oh, I disagree. How could I have changed it then?
1:36:34Theo:Anthony Robinson, Caicedo. What? Robinson at left back and then Caicedo in the six.
1:36:39Lewis Bowden:Luke Shaw at left back. I've got Wharton and Tonale. Dogey. Robinson? Dogey. I don't think, no, Robinson. I don't really want him. Yours is shit. Is he yank? Okay, right, very well. And I am xenophobic.
1:36:51Reev:I think you actually may need to quit after that. That's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Really?
1:36:56Lewis Bowden:Oh no I reckon everyone in the comments will say yours is the best Everyone put Lom Larratt in the chat Lom Larratt Lom Larratt Lom Larratt is a carrot
1:37:03Reev:Everyone say in midfield Karsado, Warton, Bruno G Oh that's so good Karsado, Bruno G, Bruno Belaba, Bruno G, Paul Palmer That's better than yours That is better than yours By the way mine's the best Belaba, Bruno G, Palmer That's fucking beast mode That is pretty good actually That's beast mode I'll actually say yours is the best
1:37:17Lewis Bowden:And then mine
1:37:19Reev:Pressure I think my whole team's best
1:37:21Lewis Bowden:To gnarly Warton They'd absolutely cook And then Kunja can just do what he wants.
1:37:26Reev:Can I say to Bruno do you Bruno Fernandes? Also, Kunya's injured, Tom. You've got an injured player on your team so you actually can't play.
1:37:30Lewis Bowden:Go on.
1:37:31Reev:Bruno Fernandes is shit. He's got an injured player. He's got 10 men. Who's he got? Kunya. Sorry. Sorry, who's got Palmer? Who has? Oh, there go the nostrils. Palmer's not injured. He's got Palmer. He just hurts. Do you mean he's not injured? He goes hung over from Carnival.
1:37:47Theo:Oh. Don't we both?
1:37:48Reev:We both have Saka as well. Is that an accusation?
1:37:50Theo:He was hung over at Carnival, yeah.
1:37:51Reev:I mean, we both have Saka
1:37:52Theo:So if I'm doing that Then it's not really
1:37:55Reev:No he's back Saka's not injured No no no I mean he's Oh shit yeah
1:37:59Lewis Bowden:You've got Saka in your team He's not injured Oh is he not It's fake injury
1:38:02Reev:International injury He's limping Yeah yeah yeah He's fine He's fine You Absolutely fine there Guys let us know Your team from the comments Down below
1:38:09Theo:Bit of variation there though That was quite nice Well done guys It goes really quick When I don't Quite tough with like One player per team Yeah interesting though Isn't it Kukurella Who's better
1:38:18Lewis Bowden:Murillo or Malenkovi Love it Love it Love it So tight I think Murillo's better I don't really rate I think these are big stiff idiots
1:38:25Reev:Murillo's only 23 as well
1:38:26Theo:Murillo's definitely better at the two but Murillo is just more of a set piece throw isn't he yeah anyway right
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1:38:55Theo:Lineker and all them isn't it? That's the rest is football No that's the rest
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