*MELTDOWN* Carrick & De Zerbi In The Sack Race, Top 10 Controversial PL Moments & Most OVERRATED Player For Every PL Club!

22 Sep 2026 · 1 h 54 min · 50 chapters

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In short

Premier League weekend review and debate, centered on Arsenal’s 3-0 loss to Brighton, Brighton’s pressing and goal threat, the “Big Six” concept, and multiple controversial/referee decisions (especially a Declan Rice red-card debate). The show also discusses Man City’s defensive record and title race, Man United’s fitness/energy issues under Michael Carrick, Fulham’s struggles and potential relegation, and player-performance arguments (including overrated players and striker comparisons).

Guests

The episode features a regular panel of football fans/hosts (names not clearly stated in the transcript). One speaker is explicitly “Lewis,” and another is “Theo.” They argue as supporters/fantasy players, referencing FPL signings and match-specific incidents.

Key claims

  • Brighton were excellent vs Arsenal, pressing high and deserved the win; Pascal Groß and “Kostoules” (Kostoulas) were standout scorers.
  • The “Big Six” is a commercial label, not a performance guarantee.
  • A Rice incident should be a red “stonewall,” and VAR/refereeing is inconsistent; Arsenal are perceived as “protected.”
  • Man United’s problem is culture/effort: they don’t run enough; Carrick should be sacked.
  • Fulham/Abelouar (spelled variously) are in trouble and could be relegation-bound.
  • Several players are overrated; specific criticism targets expensive signings and chance quality.

Notable examples

  • Arsenal vs Brighton: Groß and Kostoules goals; debate over Gabriel’s push and a possible Saka chance.
  • Rice red-card/VAR controversy vs another offside VAR call.
  • Man United vs Fulham: Fulham ran ~6km more; United “stole” a draw.
  • Newcastle vs Hull: Newcastle frustrated, second-half pressure from Hull.
  • Liverpool vs Bournemouth: debate over Isak/Jota/Jakpo-type finishing and “overprotected” signings.

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Chapters

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Arsenal vs Brighton Match Recap

0:45 to 3:08

The hosts discuss the recent match where Arsenal lost to Brighton and share their thoughts on the game's key moments.

“Some person at this table did predict a Brighton victory.”

In-Depth Analysis of Arsenal's Performance

3:08 to 8:34

The hosts critically analyze Arsenal's performance, focusing on individual player actions and overall team tactics.

“Well, yeah, but I mean, at the points that we had the chances.”

Controversial Decisions and Refereeing

8:34 to 12:34

The conversation shifts to refereeing controversies in recent matches, particularly involving Declan Rice and comparisons to other players.

“unless you're Man United or Spurs, like, then panic stations, but I feel like teams lose one game, and it's like, oh, it's the end of the world.”

Discussion on the Big Six and Premier League Changes

12:34 to 14:01

The hosts debate the relevance of the traditional 'Big Six' in the Premier League and how competitive balance has shifted.

“Offside it's black or This is a subjective decision.”

Referee Decisions and Player Protection

14:01 to 18:18

Explore the nuances of player protection and refereeing decisions in football.

“If that was Bruno Fernandes, do you think he'd get...”

Manchester City vs Sunderland Match Analysis

18:19 to 21:03

A breakdown of the recent Manchester City vs Sunderland match and its implications.

“Semenyo, probably one of his better games.”

Manchester United's Managerial Situation

21:04 to 28:00

A discussion on the current state of Manchester United and the future of their manager.

“It's hard to see because we haven't seen them at their best yet.”

Analyzing Carrick's Challenges

28:00 to 29:36

Discussing the challenges Carrick faces with team culture and performance.

“I think Carrick's not good enough, but what the fuck is he supposed to do if they're doing that?”

Fulham's Future Concerns

29:36 to 31:08

Debating Fulham's potential relegation and management issues.

“fucking dogs abuse from Man United fans.”

Bournemouth and Liverpool's Performance Review

31:08 to 32:40

Evaluating Bournemouth's match against Liverpool and player performances.

“Another team who were absolutely wank as well, by the way.”
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Izak's Scoring Controversy

32:40 to 34:24

Discussing Izak's goal-scoring and the differing opinions on his performance.

“Would you call either of his goals against Ipswich a tapping?”

Assessing Liverpool's Squad Dynamics

34:24 to 36:18

Analyzing Liverpool's squad, key players, and potential issues moving forward.

Player Performances Under Scrutiny

36:18 to 38:06

Critiquing the creative contributions of high-priced players for Liverpool.

“I do agree he's fairly creative, but he's not...”

Brentford's Struggling Offense

38:06 to 39:48

Discussing Brentford's offensive struggles and potential solutions.

“Another frustrating player to watch, obviously.”

Newcastle's Defensive Challenges

39:48 to 42:00

Evaluating Newcastle's performance and defensive issues in recent matches.

“We can feel it and just have a comfortable day and then also we have to shit ourselves for the whole half.”

Analyzing Leicester's Performance

42:00 to 43:00

Discussion on Leicester's match tactics and commentary insights.

“Part of me loves that, like, Yasser's obviously trying to get us to be aggressive and vertical, and that's his whole style.”

Hull's Survival Prospects

43:00 to 44:12

Debate on Hull's potential to avoid relegation and comparisons with Fulham.

“I mean, I would look at Fulham going down before Hull.”

Spurs' Recent Form and Issues

44:12 to 45:16

Analyzing Spurs' performance, player condition, and managerial decisions.

“They're going to get mauled by the Tigers.”

Rejects or Stars? The Spurs Debate

45:16 to 47:18

A contentious discussion on whether Spurs players are rejects or simply misunderstood.

“Look how much better Brighton look without him.”

Evaluating Player Transfers and Value

47:18 to 48:38

Discussion on the perceived value and status of various players in the Premier League.

“I had to suffer this exact same thing on Saturday.”

The Impact of Managers on Player Performance

48:38 to 50:28

Exploring how different managerial styles affect player performances and team dynamics.

“for Mammouche for Salah I agree How's Salah a reject?”

Assessing Tottenham's Player Quality

50:28 to 52:18

Debating the quality of Spurs' squad in comparison to other teams.

“But Spurs aren't going to have players that are good enough for Man City, are they?”

Villa's Progress and Future Outlook

52:18 to 54:24

Discussion on Villa's recent performances and their potential to improve.

“On the topic of the Spurs players, do you think a big part of it is they've just got a mentality block because they just can't win at the stadium?”

Brentford's Rise and Current Standing

54:24 to 56:00

Analyzing Brentford's impressive performances and their standing in the league.

“But going forward, I think Jackson looks so sharp.”

Discussion on Premier League Teams' Performances

56:00 to 1:03:10

Analysis of various Premier League teams and their standings after recent matches.

“yeah just like an annoying one he's like a pebble that'll kick it down the street they almost think I said it badly though aren't they?”

Top 10 Most Controversial Premier League Moments

1:03:10 to 1:10:01

A countdown of the most controversial moments in Premier League history.

“Because you get notified every single time we upload.”

Discussing Controversial Moments

1:10:01 to 1:10:11

The hosts reminisce about famous controversial moments in football.

“There's no gap there, but there's a gap there.”

Top Controversial Premier League Moments

1:10:12 to 1:11:39

The hosts list and debate the top controversial moments in Premier League history.

“Do you not think that's actually meant to?”

Challenging Each Other's Lists

1:11:40 to 1:14:05

The hosts critique and challenge one another's lists of controversial moments.

“Mate, he kung fu kicked someone in the chest.”

More Controversial Moments in Depth

1:14:06 to 1:16:08

The discussion continues as the hosts explore more controversial incidents in football.

“I've also got Mendes over the line nine.”

The Most Controversial Moments Recap

1:16:09 to 1:18:08

The hosts recap and elaborate on their controversial moments lists.

“I've gone when, I can't remember if no one's got this, the Rio Ferdinand drug ban.”

Overrated Players in the Premier League

1:18:09 to 1:23:30

The hosts begin discussing overrated players across Premier League clubs.

“I spoke about for about one episode of Pitchside.”

Discussion on Player Performance

1:24:00 to 1:25:09

The hosts debate about Smith Rowe's performance and reputation in football.

“You have to remember, to be overrated, you must be reared.”

Coventry and Premier League Insights

1:25:10 to 1:25:57

A discussion about players from Coventry City and their ratings in the Premier League.

“Gordon works there just because he's fast as fuck, isn't it?”

Bournemouth Player Ratings

1:25:58 to 1:26:49

The hosts evaluate players from Bournemouth, discussing overrated talents.

“Yeah I nearly went to one year But I think Thomas Asante He's supposed to do one like Is that from a person He's played in the Premier League But not right Yeah, but he's starting for them.”

Player Analysis: Petrovic and More

1:26:50 to 1:27:49

Discussion about Bournemouth's Petrovic and other players' ratings.

“Oh, sorry, you think they'll win the Europa League?”

Discussion on Overrated Players

1:27:50 to 1:28:42

The hosts share their thoughts on players they believe are overrated in the league.

“I just think we just need to chill out a little bit.”

Player Debates: Rashford and Martinez

1:28:43 to 1:29:53

Debate over the ratings and performances of Rashford and Martinez.

“And he's the future of Brazilian football.”

Crystal Palace Player Ratings

1:29:54 to 1:30:52

Discussion about which Crystal Palace players are overrated or underrated.

“what level I don't really rate him I've not really seen him because he got to send off he's he played well over the weekend yeah does he have a lot of hype around him that's just me being ignorant He has that much hype.”

Sunderland Player Evaluations

1:30:53 to 1:32:19

The hosts evaluate Sunderland players and their performances this season.

“If you think he's overrated, where should he play?”

Further Discussion on Player Performance

1:32:20 to 1:33:17

Debate over individual player performances and contributions this season.

“You've got to pick somebody from the team.”

Nottingham Forest Player Ratings

1:33:18 to 1:34:05

Discussion on Nottingham Forest players and their current form.

“I just don't think Rufus has been that bad this season.”

Manchester United Players Discussion

1:34:06 to 1:35:26

The hosts discuss overrated players from Manchester United and their season.

“The fact that he's actually managed to get a transfer.”

Analysis of Brighton Players

1:35:27 to 1:36:52

Discussion on Brighton players and their performances in comparison to expectations.

“Marcus Rashford You think Rashford's overrated?”

Debating Left-Back Options for Manchester United

1:38:00 to 1:40:10

The hosts discuss potential left-back signings for Manchester United and their current squad dynamics.

“no he's not Issa Diop do wait yeah but you've just gone quote.”

Assessing Overrated Players in the Premier League

1:40:10 to 1:42:59

The conversation shifts to identifying the most overrated players in different Premier League clubs.

Goalkeeper Rankings and Controversies

1:42:59 to 1:45:40

A heated debate occurs around the rankings of Premier League goalkeepers, focusing on Alisson and others.

“And Brendan Johnson You are discreet I was on about Greenwich and Jewish rule I don't think Johnson's overrated I don't think people rate him I would say that I don't Did you just attack your mate?”

Evaluating Brighton's Goalkeeper and Other Players

1:45:40 to 1:47:59

Hosts evaluate Brighton's goalkeeper and discuss other players' performances and reputations.

“Unfortunately, Stinky is brought him back down to the baseline.”

Arsenal Player Discussions and Fan Reactions

1:47:59 to 1:51:40

The hosts talk about Arsenal players, their performances, and the reactions from fans on social media.

“Look, I put Strujic and I don't even agree.”

Debating Midfielders and Fan Bases

1:52:00 to 1:53:20

The hosts engage in a lively debate about the quality of various midfielders and the characteristics of fan bases, particularly focusing on Declan Rice and Arsenal's online presence.

“You're going to put the hammer down or what?”
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0:00Boing Boing Boing Boing Come on, Tom. Boing, boing. You have sweat sweat. What are you doing, Les? I sweat so much at these tops. Do a proper one. That was my proper one. That's what West Brom sing when they get battered by walls. Those tops are like anti-sweat. No, they're pro sweat. I have noticed you've been sweating a lot recently. I don't know what the sweat... I don't think my body... I think I've got armpits. All you have to do is say welcome back to Pitchside. Welcome back to Pitchside, Ed. Yeah, nice. That was the last intro I'm ever going to do. We'll leave that all in. Any thought that will happen at the weekend?

0:32Don't think so. Right, end the show. Yeah. I'll meet you. That'll be class. You can stay because you're like the only one that won. I'll stay, I promise. Yeah, so West Brom lost to Wolves. Deciding the wrong show. Wrong show, man. I think it's the right show. Arsenal beat Brighton 3-0. Who would have thought that? What a great game that was. He's a win-win for you, isn't he? Someone at this table... Some table... There you go, mate. Some person at this table did predict a Brighton victory. Is that you? Who was this guy? Was it the seagull? Told you. It's never you though, is it? Someone else must have done.

1:05No, it was me. Oh, it actually wasn't you. It was actually me. The Admirals were tight. Yeah, the gooners did get pecked. And I had it. Dominated. Embarrassed. Credit where credit is due. Brighton were fantastic. God, I've missed this. They pressed the shit out of us. And we couldn't do shit. You don't get that on Sky Sports. No, seriously. Did you see how high they pressed us? We were like... We couldn't handle it. We're like, what's going on here then? And then also they had two... They had two fantastic goals from Pascal Gross and Kostoules, I thought. Grob, yeah. Sorry, Grob, yeah, my bad.

1:37I've missed this so much. You were absolutely shit. We weren't, Grob. There's kind of no defending it, really. You were terrible. By the way, I know this isn't one of the main talking points, but Gabriel's doing my fucking tits in. That was one of the worst things I've ever seen. We're in the car journey back and literally just scrolling through. At what point? As soon as Gabriel, you know, pushed on the back into it. All defenders do that. No, mate, at what point are we going to retrospectively ban him from football? Like, the knob. He does my tits in. Get up. How do you go home and look at your wife in the eyes?

2:07You used to celebrate Bruno G doing shit like that. No, Bruno G would go around and punch the very players on your team because he's a fucking arm case. There's a difference between a legend and a little pussy boy bitch. Let's face it, like. And Gabrielle, like, you are a fucking pussy class. If he was on your team, you'd love it. I really wouldn't. That's embarrassing. I hope you come into contact with him. It's like when every defender falls over and just, like, grabs the ball and it's just a handball. If it's Habits doing it, like, whatever. But when it's your big shithouse centre-pack and he's going, ah, when you're getting dominated by a bunch of seagulls.

2:34You do realise this isn't his first occasion doing it. Yeah, I know. It's why I'm wound up by him. He's a little fucking rat. Gross is now the highest goal-involvement person in the Premier League. He's actually just unreal. He's unbelievable. I brought him to the FPL two weeks ago. Yeah. That near post goal is actually, like, so smart. Yeah. Like, so smart. Both their finishes were class. And that Costulat goal is just great as well. Nah, but two of them. I did think, though, that it should have been 1-1. Saka probably could have done that. I know he was a bit off balance, but he probably should have done better on that one.

3:03We definitely had enough chances to make it a competitive game. Brighton could have scored five. Well, yeah, but I mean, at the points that we had the chances. Havertz missed that one-on-one as well. Sorry. Gosh darn. This was Arsenal's biggest league defeat in a season where they were reigning top flight champions since October 1989, which was a 3-0 loss to Everton. The nichest start ever, though. That's not that... Because you've only won the league a few years. and I miss the reigning top flight champions considering you've only been reigning top flight champions how good are Brighton guys?

3:33better than you really good how and I actually dealt with the midweek game as well yeah absolutely they tore United apart but how good are they in terms of in comparison to the traditional top six like couldn't they cement themselves they're better than three of the current top six they get Champions League yeah in the league definitely could they get Champions League Levin Brentford are looking at Champions League this year because Chelsea's looking shit. Man United are shit. Tottenham are shit. Lewis, here's a question. Villa's a bit naff. Newcastle's shit. They're an excellently coach. You look at how...

4:04Also, that's a bit of an overreaction just because Chelsea have lost to Brentford. They're shit. They are shit. They also played Barco and Henderson in midfield and Welbeck up front. It was like a second string team. They do have minus goals. I mean, even that is a problem though, isn't it? Yeah. The way that we've been saying how good Chelsea have been all season. Attacking-wise. Defending is horrendous. Losing one game, you could just call them shit. Spurs and Man United, yeah, but... The argument is, I think, with Brentford, if they sustain injuries, they get away with it because they just have a...

4:34Just as a team, everyone functions and does their role and, like, they've been there for so long. Whereas Chelsea, it's like... Individual five times. If you lose the individuals, yeah, they are absolutely pooping. My question for you, Lewis, is are we seeing, actually, the end of the big six in terms of, like, if Spurs continue where they're going, if they finish three seasons in a row 17th. Richard Masters will find a way to sort it. When was the last time the Big Six finished in the top six? Is the Big Six even a thing now? No. That's just a commercial thing, isn't it? It's not related to performance, is it?

5:05We do this every year. It's about whoever Richard Masters prefers. Who? The Premier League chief. How do you not know who he is? The chief of the Prem. How do you not know Richard Masters? Come on, mate. You're on a footy pod. It will always be the big six. They're just the most financially big powerhouses. That's all it is. Does this sort of show... I'd actually like to see if there's ever been a year where it's been the six of... The big six have actually finished in the top six. Maybe in like 2006.

5:37Is this showing that the Premier League level has increased or dropped? It's more competitive across the full league, isn't it? What's your thoughts on that question? Well, I just answered it. What's my thoughts on the question? question good answer good can I give a brilliant analogy right okay so say you've got a rubber band right you stretch it out turn it like that upwards horizontally that was the Premier League what happens when you let go of one side of the rubber band they come together so the group has packed so we've had the rubber band stretched we've dropped the top of it but it's all compacted together so it's not as they're not as good anymore but they're closer together Slinky would also work yeah but that's actually kind of an unfair analogy though because the teams at the bottom have actually got better not just the top teams have got worse.

6:22Okay, how about this? We had it like this now we went like this. Yeah, you didn't let go of it. You didn't let go of it. Oh, I can't imagine making an analogy. That was a good analogy. Tape measure as well when you let go of anything. No. Tape basically don't work. Up to bottom, innit? That don't work, mate. That's the opposite of what he's saying. Makes you think that. Guys, tune in next week I'll bring in another analogy. Based on what you're seeing so far with Brighton though do you think that there's every chance so they can push for top four, top five. It's a bit early. I do think very early to call, obviously.

6:55Yeah, and with the extra games and European football, I think they will fall off. This is the test for them now, after the international break, when the extra games come in. Can I tell you what the test is as well for Arsenal? Because now, what's that? Oh, the recipe's been leaked online. How to beat Arsenal. And everyone's got 90 minutes of research. Oh, what's that? after the RB-able. I actually... It's the exact thing, Toss. No, but it was the same argument that we had about City a couple of seasons ago, last season, where it was like, everyone's going there now thinking we can actually get at these.

7:27And Arsenal did have a thing where it was like, we're probably going to lose to Arsenal, but even subconsciously. But now, mate, after you just got pounded and all you have to do is put yours under it a little bit. Do you remember, there was a game and people would say, oh, the blueprint's been leaked online. Everyone knows how to do it. You just got to press really high, but then no other club does it. You need... That's when I leaked Yeah, that's very true you did that. But not every team has, say, the fitness capabilities of a Brighton. Most Premier League teams do. Why don't they do it every time they play Arsenal?

7:54Because it's not about fitness. No, but it's a huge part of it to keep that intensity up for the whole game. It is, but it's more to do with your shape. It's like when you press, isn't it? And trusting the manager as well to actually go out and execute his plan. Yeah. It's more about like... It's more like about when you... I just said so. I've been cutting the grass. Is that your certain length? No, they're just a really well-drilled, organised team with good players. They're a really good team, and they can do that to anyone. And if I was Arsenal, I'd go, so what? It's one game. It's a blip.

8:32Get over it. I really do think, like, nowadays, unless you're Man United or Spurs, like, then panic stations, but I feel like teams lose one game, and it's like, oh, it's the end of the world. We had the conversation in the car of you like to play the game of how long can we go into the season without losing a game. But now it's happened. Yeah, normally we make it like three games max. Yeah, yeah. It's normally a shit game if you're... I just think whatever happened to just losing a game so the one's just going oh, we were crap today but they were just really good. Yeah, absolutely. Can I comment?

9:05It's because I want Arsenal to do bad so badly that I will take any sip of... No, no, no. He was saying how much he's starting to like us. I was just lying. You were lying, were you? Don't like us at all. we had the conversation and Lou was like obviously you're going to win the league but like this is a bad result yeah no like realistically like Arsenal's going to win the league but that's all it is isn't it it's like you move on to the next all these games in the Prem this really like that's right Theo low pressure City are there City are there little me again I'll fucking knock you out alright City are there by the way Declan Rice friend of the shore come out and apologise right now because that's a red do you not think that's been a bit blown out oh blown out of proportion assaults mate Theo I thought he tripped He's not a kick at him.

9:46Oh my God. He wasn't even on the ball. It'd be given a red. Other circumstances. Well, Alan Shearer and Danny Murphy agree with me. Yeah, but Alan... So your opinion is theirs, not your own? No, actually, I watched it after I gave my opinion. Yeah, but do you know what? It's classic. Wait, who did you give your opinion to? There is no way you don't think this is a... Theo, this is bad. It's classic Arsenal. You can understand why it's just a yellow. If Bruno Fernandes did that or someone, like he gets a red, it's a classic Arsenal treatment. I think anything is personal. It's Declan Rice, honestly.

10:14That's worse than the Foden one. It's bullshit. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Mate, he's not even on the ball. Foden literally goes like that. Yes, but he's on the ball. They're around the ball, aren't they? The problem I have with the Foden one is that Bruno should have been given something at that point as well. Yeah, no. Look, ball's gone. Ball's gone. He just trips him. What? That just can't do that. He swipes at him. He does not swipe at him, mate. Theo, he's not even on the ball, Theo. Does he do that? That's a swipe. No, but he doesn't have to be high. It's low. He kicks his ankles. Agreed to disagree.

10:44I think it's blown out of proportion. What are you on about? Theo, he's not even... Look, the ball's gone over there. He turns towards him and kicks him. What are you on about? What the fuck are you on about? It's a red card. Look, he passes the ball. My opinion on it is if it's somebody else other than Declan Rice, he gets sent off. Look, he looks at him. I'm going to kick you. Kick. What are you on about? It's not a red. No, I'm happy that he didn't get sent off. But if that's in another game, Bruno Fernandes, for example, would... Bruno Fernandes gets sent off. I'm sorry. So what's the precedent that you're setting?

11:14So I'm allowed to pass the ball over there, turn in, then I just kick whoever's there. Because it's intent, isn't it? I can't be how Curio's not got a yellow car for in the back. Because that's actually part of the same base. He was actually he was slowing down. as he's passed the ball. You think that's the same? Devil's advocate, that. I don't agree it's a yellow car. I was playing devil's advocate. Oh. You think it is a yellow? I think that's been blown out of proportion. No, but you think it's a yellow or... No, no, no. Yeah, but it's the intent of dozens of matter. It doesn't matter. It's not aggressive.

11:42You know how in certain scenarios you just give both players yellow card, not saying Yoko's getting yellow card. It's not a red card, is it? Yes, it is. It's not even on the ball. The equivalent example would be with an upper body version of that where somebody runs past you and you look at someone and then actively try and hit them. If you're just going co-found someone, you can't just go... It is a malicious thing to do, but I think it should be interesting. You can't just hit someone off the ball. Why do you think VAR haven't pulled it up? I think it was because it was right at the end and the game was dead and it's what...

12:08That's bullshit because if you're on Man City looking at that it's like why have they got Declan Rice for three games now? Or maybe Theo was on VL. Yeah I mean why haven't they called it? Maybe because they agree with me. I just think it's not that. I think it's been blown out. But there is a So was it an offside for Man City last week? That's different. That is literally quite literally a fact. It's different because it's Man City. In these scenarios it's such a stupid thing to say. No it's not because you're saying offside it's black or white mate. Don't be so silly. Yeah but they didn't give it.

12:35Offside it's black or This is a subjective decision. You can think it, but it's not. Tom, Tom, offside, their claim that he wasn't involved. Offside is not subjective. This is subjective. So that's why it's different. It's not subjective. He turned and just kicked him. I'm correct. You're correct. You're not at all. You think it's black or white. I don't think it's black or white. In this one, you think it's black or white with black and rise. No, I don't think it's black or white. I think, I think, I think it's a red card. Yeah, that's your opinion. Yeah, I don't think it's black or white. I think that's black or white.

13:05That's why it's different. The reason that doesn't add up is because what I'm on about last week is the offside. Where it's subjective is whether they claimed he was interfering with play, not whether he's offside. I see what you're saying. So you're just saying, well, the referee agrees with me, so I'm right. All I'm saying is, well, they got that rung last week. Just because the referee agrees with you doesn't say, well, I'm right then. Do you know what I mean? I think that's a stonewall record. I can't believe that hasn't been given. It's crazy to me, to be honest. It's ironic, really. And I think if we were sat on a stream watching Arsenal Man United and Bruno Fernandes did that to Declan Rice off the board, you'd be screaming, going, how is that not a red card?

13:44I genuinely don't think... Oh, my fucking God. Yes, you would. If it was roles reversed and Declan Rice initiates that to begin with and Yalquia does that to him afterwards, do you think Yalquia gets sent off? Yes. No, I think... Arsenal are such a protected team. No, I don't think that. Because of the timing. I think they will. to do with the end of the game because they brought straight up contextually yeah but I mean it's like you see a lot of times as the opposite way around at the start of a game a lot of players also don't get sent off when maybe they should have been yeah that's true I understand that do you see what I'm saying I think you said that but that doesn't that shouldn't change definitely isn't protected because look your team is protected and it's ironic sent off against Brighton was it last season oh it's not ironic no yeah it's ironic because your fans used to cry so much how hard Dunbar and now you're like Man United used to be back in the day where like yous get away with absolute fucking murder these days it's one decision it's not I still remember I still remember Gabriel fucking punching Gabriel punched Volta Marder off the ball last season and he went on to score the winner yous get away with murder you have to you have to recognise Arsenal are like the worst of like all the tussling the dark arts and all that in the box like you just are you used to cry about it the most though that's what yous complained about the most back in the day Declanis isn't protected like you say he is he's like where he got sent off against Brighton because of that.

15:05No, okay, let me... He's protected. That's a fair point. Let me ask you this. You think? If that was Bruno Fernandes, do you think he'd get... I didn't hear what you said, sorry. What did you say when you asked? You know when he's saying Rice is protected, but then I showed an example of him getting sent off What he's about to say is going to prove what I mean. I think he is in the sense of... Do you think he's protected because he's Declan Rice or because of the situation of the game? Declan Rice. It's because of what we think of him as a person. I think Bruno Fernandes would have done that he'd have got sent off yeah it's the referee can't help it's like what Shelby used to get loads of cards because it's Shelby preconceived character of the person the same way why Palmer didn't get sent off against either of the week yeah certain players are it's probably a subconscious thing yeah it's like well Lineker Lineker would have committed fouls oh I really like Declan Rice even when he's shot on the pitch he's a yeller when I'm guessing how much they've defended it right but again he's an England star he's like he's nice they are naturally yeah he's a really nice guy no he's a really likeable guy funny clips of him about as that he's a friend of the show yeah friend of the show great friend of the show he should be sent off so naturally he's not like a nasty player so I think people do naturally want to defend him and make excuses I wouldn't mean to unfortunately that's daddy's a red card it just in my opinion that's like a stonewall red and it's a fucking corrupt this league do you do you think the forwarding red card last weekend had an impact on his decision because so many people a lot of people were seeing it was it the same red No, no, no, but I'm just saying, do you think that kind of thing gets in the referee's mind?

16:32I honestly think the reason it didn't get given is because it was right at the end of the game. And also, I don't think anyone saw it other than obviously it would have to be the VAR. And they probably went, fuck, what's the point? I always think as well, if you're a ref and you're doing it to Arsenal, whose fans are bigger than Brighton's and more vocal, I reckon part of his head is, it's later on, it's Declan Rice, I don't want the ag. That's what I mean. I can't be arsed to get 2 ,000 death threats. That'll be done from the VAR. It's a bit like the McGinn fan against Brighton first game of the season when it was 4-0 at the end and he smashes into Oh, the penalty.

17:04It's a stonewall penalty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the game's dead and they probably go, I can't believe it. I can't be honest. That's bad though, if that's the case. It is bad, but they're human. I think it's bad when it's red cards. I mean, they're going to have these something, like if you work an office job, you're going to be more pumped in and doing work at like half nine in the morning than half four on a Friday, aren't you? So that's a good one. the difference is though it's like with a red card it actually impacts following games I don't know but if you're 3-0 up and it could have been 4 I know goal difference but like the red card is far more impactful like a 3 game suspension a deck than a rise I know I do get it and I do agree with you but also they can't they are human they are just naturally going to have the again it's not right someone at dinner with a ref no no no I'm not he's not a ref but I just think I can understand I don't agree with that like I said I think that's an absolutely fucking disgrace.

17:58But I couldn't kind of get it at the end of the game. If it's nil-nil, he might get sent off. No, I'm fuming. In context. You don't. I just want Arsenal to lose. You were saying yesterday how much you love Arsenal now. I did not see it. You did. I did not see that. You did. I said Arte as well, right? Right. Anyway, moving on to an Agor thriller, City Sunderland. During your golf yesterday, it was like, oh, another goal, another goal, another goal. Semenyo, probably one of his better games. He was brilliant from what I saw, yeah. Robbie Hattrick. Robbie Hattrick. Any concerns from the Arsenal fans?

18:33I don't... No, I think... Man City can't defend. Yeah, I think longer term, the defence that Arsenal has will probably... It's the same thing with Chelsea, though, isn't it? Everyone's saying Chelsea will outscore everyone, but the age-old saying is defence wins your titles. Yeah. It does help that Man City has some of the best firepower up front. I don't get it, though. They're as old as time. I don't get it, though, because Man City have Kusunov. But they've only conceded five goals this season. which is one more than Arsenal and Kusunov didn't play exactly I mean it's a it's a rough one for Sunderland because they've also lost Xhaka because he's going to prison we can let him get away with that he tried to dig at me yeah it's only a joke oh no it's only a joke so before before the weekend they'd only conceded two goals with Kusunov playing can I ask you a lot of questions now no reply to that well you just said they defensively can't defend they couldn't defend the weekend I said they couldn't defend this season or that game the weekend they couldn't defend because Kusunov didn't play I thought Sunderland created good chances.

19:27Yeah, they did. They played well. It was actually a pretty even game. Yeah. It was a bit of a mental... Also, anyone else? Captain Harland? Yeah, Miss Norfolk. Captain Calvert-Lewin. What? I just thought they were going to battle. Fair enough, mate. I mean, he's supposed to score like three games a month. Who's better? Brobby? Or Harland? Or Jokarez? Brobby? Might be Brobby, like... Oh, really? Might be Brobby. You coming around to the idea now? I'm still going to beat him, mate. Yeah, like... Well, Brobby actually... Wait, is that you? You seriously think... Remember, I said that during the World Cup.

19:56I said that during the World Cup. They call me a stupid, stupid idiot boy. Yeah, we did. Really? Yeah. We even did it when we came back and you agreed with him. Yeah. I agree with Theo, yeah. The problem is, like, I was torn between my two agendas of anti-Sundland and anti-Yokarez, and I chose wrong. Yeah. Broby, I don't think Yokarez does anything better than Broby. Broby's finishing is so smart. That first one was a good finish as well. He can be quite a bit of time. Yeah, but Yokarez is a great finisher too. Not to bring it back to that point. No, he's not. Is that him? Jokras is a good finisher.

20:26No. He can't do anything. Not an answer. That's like his best attitude. Or a tap-in. He's not a good finisher. You don't think he's a good finisher. I actually I'd take Chris Wood over Jokras and I'm not joking and I'm not joking. I'd still take Jimenez right now and I've said that from the start. Jimenez, he's fucking crying him off. Jokras isn't. He can't even get on the pitch. What do you all think of Enzo's sort of start in a Man City career and that free kick was so intelligent. He's playing well, mate. Maresca loves him I thought when they signed him I thought like it's an interesting like do they really need Enzo Fernandes but he's just I think it's Maresca wanting him though he's just brilliant isn't he Heman Anderson really complimenting yeah they do have they got the best behind the scenes no no on the pitch that's what have they got the best midfielder in the league Enzo Anderson Buwadi Chucky Chucky Foden and Jai Semenyo they're depth no it depends what you're saying what he plays as well or just centre mid central centre mid peak ability is probably still probably awesome.

21:23It's hard to see because we haven't seen them at their best yet. Bruno Rice. We haven't seen them as a... There's only been a few games where they've played together. Bruno Rice, not far off Enzo, Anderson, Cherky. But I'm saying on their best day. Yeah, but they've got more depth in midfield. They've got Bouadi coming off the bench. I'd guess it is, yeah. I think you're right. I mean, they just got in jive for the sake of it because Doku's injured. He's better. I know, but even just their depth across their forward line as well is just like... Apart from the striker. Yeah, but... I will... I'd say on that though it's not like crazy depth in terms of quality.

21:56I don't think. By the way they've had a howler getting rid of Trafford and keep Donner room at it. He's shit. What? He is. By the way you see when he came He was all over the gap yesterday. You see when he came out for that thing he almost scored an on goal. What is he doing? He's just a big lanky beard boy. They're saving it with his face and that. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's just deemed in it. Yeah. Running a freshness. Honestly He has got a Bozo gene. He's only 17 though. Speaking as a goalkeeper, honestly, half the time you just have to get, the ball hits off you. As a former goalkeeper.

22:29As a goalkeeper, sometimes the ball hits you and you just go like this. What drills would you like recommend? Be tall. That's all you have to do. That's a drill. Practice being tall. Honestly, like, I think if you're a professional goalkeeper and you're smaller, it means you're a better goalkeeper. You think? Yeah. Is that why famously they're all over six foot? most a small goalkeeper is like 6 foot if you're 6 foot yeah Ryan's 6 foot isn't he Kassias was short wasn't he wasn't he short he was like 5 '11 that's not that short Dwayne Wade technically better than Shaquille O 'Neal Shaquille's just a big fucking guy well him switch his keeper is what like 6 '9 6 foot 1 I think Kassias why is he shooting guard because he's more technical and better like Kassias he said 6 foot 1 we call him short for a keeper I mean some of the best keepers of all time are like tall people just got swept by Neuer's 6-5 arguably the best so going back Manchester you've seen their attacking intent obviously Haaland could have had a couple no concerns of how well they're playing under a new manager oh yeah shouldn't have looked fine they're doing a lot better than I thought do you know what I think is the City though you're talking about in terms of the title race I mean there is a concern but I just think over the long term Arsenal will probably hold them off but surely this isn't a surprising concern though like everyone knew City were going to be there or thereabouts No, I think that's unfair.

23:48With Pep leaving and Roger leaving. Where do we all predict City? Third, I think. 20th. Oh, yeah. Up at second. I don't know if it's like third. You thought Chelsea would still push it? They're still well on for 79 points. I mean, they made some brilliant signs, didn't they, over the summer? I mean, if you've got quality like that, they're always going to be there. They literally have so much firepower that if the game's 50-50, they can just turn it on the switch. I think you've got to give Moretzka some credit because I think a lot of people doubted him coming in taking over from Pep. Tough job.

24:14And they're flying. so talking about I mean in terms of oh sorry are you going to I was going to carry on with Maresca oh right yeah I think he's one of the best managers in the league in terms of having a plan A yeah if everything's if shit hits the fan then how good is he hey that's knowledge yeah thanks mate good boy from a lot of people that watch Leicester yeah that is Maresca go on then Jim what was I saying you're bringing it on from a team that's flying to a from a team that's flying to a team that's not flying which one which one are you Yeah, nice. By the way, that game was dog shit.

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24:49Yeah, it was. Couldn't watch it. We watched it in the clubhouse. It was so, the standard in that game. Didn't Gary Neville say it was the worst 15 minutes of his entire life? You need to let Man United cook, man. I've seen signs and I've seen they're going in the right direction in some areas. Which areas? You're meant to do this at Spurs, not Man United. No, I don't want to do it at Spurs. I don't get it. No, they're doing good. Oh, I see. Which areas? defensively they only conceded one this time round that's true that is a good point yeah well if you actually Laman's played Laman's done a good game didn't he can we cheat in the first half yeah also scored goal scored goal I am I am wounded I actually I'm wounded that they managed to steal a draw and I'm excited though because I think I'm going to be right he might be the first manager sacked who?

25:39Carrick is that what you said it would be? yeah I don't I I think he should be, but I don't think he will be. Man United don't sack managers quickly. I think they're going to try and be like, this is our man. We've got the decision right. They didn't. And he will prove it. Will was right, though. They hang on to them until they're... The problem is, the bitter end. He's just not seeing the right stuff in the press conferences either. If they sack Harry, that's the board, basically going... We got it wrong. We fucked this up. You're best seeing that now, though, than at the end of the day. Now, Man United board to have enough ego, mate.

26:13You're talking about billionaires with ego. They came in and said, he's only an interim. No matter what happens, we're then going to go and get like a big manager. Then shit themselves, actually hire him. And then it turns out, oh wait, he's actually a fucking PET. Isn't it bad? We were right. So if they then admit... They should have listened to us. We actually just talked about this. Also, United in October, really tough fixtures. Yeah, and vice versa. They're tough for them because they're wank. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, you had a battle of the shit after Spurs beat United next game.

26:42opening game then they got Atletico away Leeds away Coma away Bournemouth at home Chelsea away Roma at home they are I was listening to Neville talk about it and he's right and this is where I feel sorry for Carrick because I think obviously they're just not they're like the lowest on all running stats aren't they yeah Fulham after 60 minutes Fulham had run 6k more than yeah they finished the game that is actually unacceptable as a fan that's the thing that would piss me off the most You can be shit at football, but you're a fucking millionaire and everyone else is paying money to see you. Why don't you run, you lazy pieces of wine?

27:19It's the Newcastle induction system, isn't it? It's fucking infuriating. Either run or fuck off. I'm convinced it's the culture now. When Fergie was there, I think people were scared of him and he was the man. It's my way of the highway. Now, it feels to me as an outsider looking in, a bit like players who go there, it's like, man, you're not. I'm 150 grand a week I don't care I'm the bollocks I'm this because I'll play for a man instead of where you look at how City play under Pep they probably run more than anyone off the ball obviously they have the ball Arsenal Saka's tracking back in the right back spot I just think I think there's too many they keep seeming to sign or they're either unfortunate or it's the culture because they either everyone they sign is a prima donna who is a teeth or fat but doing Don't you think there's enough of an evidence base now that it probably is just a culture?

28:14It is a culture. That's what I'm saying. You can't keep being named. But that's that as well. I think Carrick's not good enough, but what the fuck is he supposed to do if they're doing that? If you're him, you're not even doing the absolute fair bit of him, which is to actually work your ass off. As a manager going, work for me! Run! Please! He must have got in that change at the end of the game and be like, you lot are just pathetic. I wonder what he's there. He must be so let down by them. he's not really saying in the press conference I think he was saying that he didn't have concerns about the energy levels and like but he's defending his player no but like you can't imagine he comes out and says he's a lot pathetic you can't praise the one thing that statistically you were far short managers do that all the time no no no as a fan he didn't praise it he didn't praise it he just didn't I don't think it's bad to say we didn't run enough today when you have ran six kilometres less than the other team I agree with you but again now you lose the fans yeah but he knows the ego's more than us in that dressing room, that might, he might, that could turn a few of them against him if they think he's running even less.

29:15Yeah. They're prima donnas. Why didn't you run then? These footballers are prima donna overpaid. I hate them all, mate. Man United. That's fair. Probably get rid of that one, I reckon. By the way, I'm absolutely loving the hit. Watch though. Because Man United fans get so ahead of themselves so quickly. I know, I'm actually really happy about it because I've been getting fucking dogs abuse from Man United fans. I've got an agenda, I've got this. And I was right. Why did you stop under his hole, guys? As Theo once said. Said it famously. Long may continue. Fulham. Up the Fulham. Is there not a little bit...

29:50Up the Fulham. Up the Fulham. I'll say it properly. Like you did in the car last night. Up the Fulham. Go on. Carry on. There must be a major concern going on at that football club. Because going forward, they've got youngsters, a bit of brightness there, but everywhere else... Is it though? It could be. It could be. They've got young talent. Do you know what I mean? Do they? With potential. They have young players. He's got me. Garcia. That Garcia. I feel like I'm... But they're players that carry reputation because they've played... But you've got to put Oscar Bob on the road board now. Is the issue just classic?

30:21Managers come in the league, wants to play football, but you're chit. Yeah, he can't play the style that he wants to play. And ultimately, you look at teams that get promoted that try and do that, half of them they go down. Absolutely. So is this the actually... But Fulham were going last year. He's made a different style of football though. But like... Yeah, it's different managers. This year... Different managers. Do you not think... If they continue the way they're going, they stick with Arbeloa they will just get relegated yeah potentially I think it's like a sign of how bad Man United are by the way the fact that they only stole a last minute draw against Fulham because Fulham are way way off it like miles off it I think they're as good as gone if I'm honest you think Fulham are as good as gone it's so ridiculous they play their three promoted teams next they could get nine points from that were they substantially worse their fixtures do change they've had a tough start to be fair to them but they are playing the style of football that could get them relegated I have zero belief in Abelouar.

31:08They went to Anfield and Groot. Got them in the middle, yeah. Another team who were absolutely wank as well, by the way. I know they've won one. Liverpool? Yeah, they were pretty naff at the start of the season. It's only been five games. It is the start of the season. Yeah, well, we're in for it now. I don't know what you expect. No, I just don't think... Do you not think... Do you not think potentially reassess after they've played all the promoted teams and then... My logic is this, right? They brought Abelouar in, who's not going to be... Never was going to be good enough of a manager. The people haven't lost the game.

31:34And then they've signed in the Spanish players for Abelouar. so if they get rid of Abelhoa then the Spazians are going to be like what the fuck they'll be crap at the start of the season literally undefeated Jacké's coming I think they're going to be hesitant to get rid of Abelhoa because they've brought in players who know him and they're going to be like what the fuck he got rid of him for I disagree with that and they're going to stick it out too long I disagree with that because there'll be too much of a fear of going down yeah absolutely yeah they've been in the league for so long now they've been in the league now established they should be an established Premier League side they might have to pay him a lot of money though if they get rid of him I don't think he'll be on a big contract I think he was lucky to get the job I agree but it's a weird appointment isn't it but I'm not the Fulham well actually he wasn't crying he was on his phone crying on his phone he was crying on his phone he was wanking yeah I think Fulham are in trouble but I do think they'll sack him and get someone else in gosh Bournemouth Liverpool I thought Bournemouth were unlucky to lose oh you're finally back we can talk about Isaac He scored again.

32:36Is Zach back? Is Zach back? Oh, my God. Tapping. It's actually a well-taken goal. Is he the top scorer in the league? Four goals in five matches. Yeah, four and five. Yeah, four tappings. Doesn't matter. Four goals. What? I wouldn't call that a tapping either. Would you call either of his goals against Ipswich a tapping? Yeah. No. A tapping. Kieber could have done better, though. Kieber could have done better, but neither would have happened. He's had that in any goal. Yeah. He scored. Since you said he's completely washed, he's scored nearly every game. You've been a hypocrite now. Why? Because when Jokra scores tap-ins, you call on him shit.

33:07Yeah, but Izak's not scoring tap-ins. Yeah, he is. Wait, Jokra also wasn't, though. I could have scored that one yesterday. Not straight to defend the guy. Yeah, but I don't know what you're on about. Did you see that step-over clip from two weeks ago? It was shit. Who are you talking about? Talking about Izak. He scores every game. Tapping. Scores every game. Gores missing for 90 minutes. He has just got Liverpool three points. Can you admit that he's actually doing well? No. Right. I also haven't seen the goal. I want to see it. By the way, it's not a tap-in. It's like a volley, bro What? He volleys it He's in the six yards A volley?

33:38Yeah, but it's Big volley People can still rest from there I would score more goals Than him in this Liverpool team Just genuinely wouldn't You wouldn't score four goals In 20 years Mate, honestly He doesn't It's not like he's moving anywhere You haven't scored four years In your whole career I can literally Dribble better with a ball Currently than Isaac The way he dribbles With it these days You're just picking on anything He's not there to dribble Yes Right I am But he's not there to dribble He's there to score goals No, I'm just saying a point He said he won't get double figures this season.

34:05He's going to get it in like five, ten games. Yeah, he's good. By the way, that's a decent finish. Yeah, it was a bad pin, lad. Alisson was all right as well, wasn't he? See that save he did? Yeah. Pretty beast mode. I'm saying, yeah. You're about to say Jacquet, right? You're about to say Jacquet? I'm coming over to the idea he might be a good defender. He is good. Yeah. But also, I know he came on... What made you think he were homeless? I thought potentially he could be getting elevated by Van Dijk, but then also midweek he came on second half without Van Dijk did alright didn't he but he probably is getting elevated with Van Dijk Liverpool fans love him already and a Rao he could be serious they've made some very shrewd defensive purchases to be fair does that want to keep you high on Liverpool or are you going to reel them out at the title race reel them out they're not in the title race but top four they do have an issue though better as they go on every chance your early sides do tend to do that and Barkola's not obviously he's only played a couple games but he's he's a bright spark but that is what his game is though isn't it they have an issue though don't they a little bit flatter to deceive quite a big issue which is what vert oh right yeah but that's always dog shit it's been an issue since he joined a new one yeah I'm sick of it but then every Liverpool runner say nah he's played well he's done it again but he does what Wister does he's the most overprotected signing I've ever seen in my life he's actually so average it's painful I'm not joking when I say this I don't think I think NC shows better than him it's funny you say that I think in CISO is better than him what does that mean don't worry about it I don't know what he's doing I think Jules Biel is better than him I do agree with that yeah I'd rather have who else Jules Biel is better than him what other 10s are they gross not even a 10 but he's better at 10 100 % he sure would like Volta Marder no no in the league I wouldn't what about Vista Damsgaard huh Damsgaard yeah 100 % Damsgaard I just think oh yeah I don't know what he's not a 10 he played midfield James Madison?

36:03Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. A million percent. Why? What is it? I don't know what he's good at. Just sort of a bit of a tug on him. He's got a decent touch. No, he can keep possession. He can pass the ball. Wow. Which is like... I mean, he's just... I do agree he's fairly creative, but he's not... He's not even creative. No, but he is slightly creative. Like, you can't even say he's not. Yeah, but what you're doing right now... No, no, no. What you're doing right now is what Liverpool fans are doing. No, but the problem... He's£120 million. The problem is the chances he creates just aren't even good enough.

36:36That's not good being creative then. What chances does he create? He's very creative creating bad chances. Yeah, if that makes sense. That's not good. He played a part in the goal. I mean... Yeah, but I said this from the start. He actually created the joint most chances against Bournemouth. Three. Wow. But the point is, for the price tag he came in with, he needs to be either assisting or scoring at minimum every game every other game do you know what I mean absolutely it's not even that I'd let him off with numbers if like but he's not getting the numbers he was slightly influential yeah just somewhere else on the pitch like maybe be the pass before the goal again I didn't obviously only saw the finish from he's actually might have been involved in that one but just doing it once ain't enough it's not in the league it's not his fault I understand it's not his fault that he's the prize tag but that's still the price tag.

37:31A couple of fixes. Could they place the Bozlatte in the 10? Primarily, that was where he was supposed to be starting. Is that a better one? That's what I'd play, yeah. I thought... He has zero big chances created this season. That's what I'm... That's dog shit. Like, he's creating chances but they're not good. See? That's about my point. Creates loads of chances but they're never good ones. Yeah, that is genius for me. no it's not good that's what I'm saying he's creative but they're not good creative transfers that's not creative then how long does he really give him it's like saying I'm creative if I do a drawing how long does he give him international break go away with Germany I think I don't know because I don't know how the politics will work of it being that big of a signing and what the board would think I wouldn't play him he'd be lucky to get on my bench if I was the Liverpool manager because why am I bringing him on to do what in the reserves That's Rizep.

38:31He can massage their feet. Oh, God. What, a fall from grace? Yeah, a fall from grace. Yeah, class that. Another frustrating player to watch, obviously. Your man? Jan Wisser? No, he's frustrating for FPL reasons. Football reasons, he's been classed. Everyone misses the penalty every now and again. No, it's not even that. He just misses Taffy as all. every time the radio is like oh he's going to win oh he's missed a ball no honestly like I've never seen someone be so good and getting so many good places and still somehow not score but when it clicks he's going to be unbelievable again oh we'll get like four in a game but we are officially will it click though has it ever clicked for him is this not just him at Brentford he scored still missed a lot of chances scored a lot of chances he at least scored at some like the issue with what happened is he's like missing like tap-ins he's got nine chances to him Yeah, I know, but he's always been a big, like, miss a lot of chances, hasn't he?

39:28You're a misser. You're a misser. Brentford would just need to create, like, four. I will. Every game. Can we please recognise we're the first team to avoid getting mauled? Now, I admit, we have some scratches and it was close. But. That's not true. What happened to Hull? That's for the predictions. No, what happened to them? Oh, it's been done. Oh, you're getting scanned by the barcodes. Scanned by the barcodes. Also, that's not true. They drew against. Yeah, no, but they still mauled them. partially because it's the first team to beat them I mean if you yeah I mean it was Chelsea so like expectations can you mow someone to draw like if you saw two Tigers fighting and like they both got mowed well Lion really if it's Chelsea and they're fighting and then they both go and they shake hands no one got mowed okay we sent them back to the den to the Lion den but they're a Tiger den they don't have dens but yeah fair it was a very classic frustrated Newcastle it was a classic Newcastle frustrating performance where we got 2-0 but we're flyer.

40:24We can feel it and just have a comfortable day and then also we have to shit ourselves for the whole half. Second half, they battered you. Second half, Jesus. Do you think I used to have a bit fortunate to come with you? Yeah, absolutely. Definitely. I don't know if we also had our own chances. Chow could have squared it for goals. So, we also had our chances. Mate, can I read the second half stats to you? I will say, though, last season, I will say last season we would have lost that game or drew that game. Like, we would have thrown that away and we actually held on for one. Mate, second half you were lucky that Hull don't have top quality I'm worried for our season still there's a lot of warning signs like say Pardo like he's really good at pressing and he's quick and he's aggressive he's not been I'm not having him mate he just wasn't if he's playing if he's coming as a nine you need to play as a nine where you are but you've got two 9.5s haven't you that's the problem you basically are just running no but the problem is we have probably four or five players who really belong off the left and like No, that's generally And all we have on the right Currently is Jacob Murphy And we have no strikers No, so you have Armie Barnes Then Ture is a left winger You can argue That's where Wisser is Pardo played Wisser's not a left winger He's not a 10 or forward Where would you put him?

41:34For Brentford He was like In the 10 and up front No, but they played In the 2 didn't they He was not more wide Though a lot Wisser not a left winger They'll drift What is Wisser then? We're having another Volta Marder issue What is Wisser? He's like a second striker he's not an outright not an ugly yeah but we have this problem where we have everyone who's mainly loaded on this side of the pitch and then what the fuck's going on around here Murphy I don't know it was really weird your left side's just really strong generally I don't know whether they'd be excited for it but we listened on radio commentary on the way to Leicester and it was like we were really up against it it was 2-1 and like all you're hearing was us going ultra attacking like as soon as we get a ball of the breather throw it out back and I don't know it was on commentary it was like what are they doing when we throw it out for him I said all the game Because he had the local commentary on us.

42:21It's so geordie. Part of me loves that, like, Yasser's obviously trying to get us to be aggressive and vertical, and that's his whole style. That is not sustainable, that. But, yeah, it's like, come on, like, sometimes you have to be a bit clever. He scored nine, conceded nine. It's all we are, mate. Yeah, just pure panic. Did you see Hornacek trying to do a fucking cry to him? By the way, he... Very lucky. No, he's good. He is good. He's just as young, isn't he? I think he's shaky. I'll do him. No, he's been really good for us. I disagree. He's really good. Shots up and way calmer on the ball.

42:48Yeah, but he stopped it. He didn't go in. Yeah. No, he's been really good in goal and he's way more composed on the ball. Yeah, I like him a lot. Just quickly on Hull, you said they're going down at the start of the season. Are we standing by that? Yeah. No. Yeah. They're a bit tighter than we think. I think it's worse teams. I think still, yeah. I'll look at him, definitely. I mean, I would look at Fulham going down before Hull. Would you? Yeah, if Arbelo is standing. As he stands, yeah. But it's a long old season, mate. Genuinely, people get really, Blackpool did it when they come up. Oh, look at these fucking, and then, they were down with like, the thing is though, they're like, they're delivery from that left back who's, does me, what's his name?

43:29Yeah, Giles' deliveries and like the set pieces like, they're really, they're really quality deliveries though, like they are going to pick up goals and games. And that Balumi's really good. Really good. I don't know where they got him from. Balumi, he's been there last year. Yeah, he's a good player man. No, Giles has a fucking good cross and I'm like yeah but he's a slug and he can't defend so Hull will get found out they've not got enough quality do you think it's just the case you have a heart of a lion the thing is though Tom I look at Hull and I see that Fulham fixture and my word they're going to maul them that's a maul yeah I could see Hull winning that for sure I can absolutely see Hull are going to give it a really good go I just think they won't have enough quality but it also will get mauled it could be a platform for Fulham to start their season with equally no get mauled by the They're going to get mauled by the Tigers.

44:14No, I'm beating Hull, obviously. Reeve, Fulham are getting mauled by the Tigers. It'd be a fun game because they both play like chaos football sometimes, don't they? Fulham are going to get mauled by the Tigers. Double down, mate. Anyway. When you have to pass Obalo on a bench and bats you again. Spurs are back. This game pissed me off. Spurs, that scoreline. It doesn't. It actually doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. I think it does. I wanted them to be embarrassed. When I watched it back, I thought Spurs played really well. I thought it was not the first half you were. They were the better team. I think they were knackered second half.

44:40Suzuki was their man of the match. Yeah. Suzuki was brilliant. He is just classy. I know he's a joke, but there is signs for Spurs. They're actually like... But they've scored two goals now. And they still lost. No, but I mean, they were on zero in front of him. It was genuinely like they just had no legs in the second half. Like the first half, they were way more assertive and aggressive. I thought they were let down Van der Ven and Van Heek were actually quite poor. Van Heek's been crap. I'm not a fan of Van der Ven anyway, but I mean... You never were. Yeah. Well, I think I've got it wrong, guys.

45:11I'm not too big of a fan of Van Heek. But the problem is, he's De Zerbi's boy, isn't he? Like, De Zerbi just absolutely loves him. Look how much better Brighton look without him. Yeah, Buscovic. Porra going off after 20 minutes, well, it's a bit rough for them. Kinski, I don't like. Kinski's rubbish. He made a couple of good saves, though. I think they'll have a better chance of keeping in games with Dubravka. Yeah. Like, genuinely. Dubravka's a disrespected pream keeper. I will say, though, Villar have scored two worldies. That Buendia guy was a joke. Do you not think... I know, obviously, two goals, you know, you've seen signs, Tom, which is fair enough.

45:47As a Spurs fan, that's totally understandable. But when you look on paper, their team is actually just like a really good Premier League squad. Lewis, what were you saying to us yesterday about this, though? Oh, I think that their team is like full of names. Like, just people who... The actual ability level. if you compare them to Brentford name for name you'd think by far Spurs are a team but I don't think that's true I think they're a team I actually think this passionately I think they're a team of rejects I think every single player there is a reject from either that higher move or they've came from that higher move down Tonali what about Fernandes Tonali and Fernandes in a window where every big team wanted midfield they went to Tottenham Tonali was stalling for months as well desperate to go to an Arsenal lot there was three or four teams in for both which ones Man United room for Matias Fernandes, but they couldn't afford him.

46:39I don't know.

46:43That is my argument. If you want to have the sticker point, Fernandes, okay, that's one to that. But if you actually go through the actual rejects, well, we can go through. Every single player is a reject. Porro from Man City, Van Hecker is actually dropped down. Van de Ven, I couldn't find a move. He's staying there. Robertson's retiring out there. Tenali couldn't get a bigger move. He's end up there and he's shit. Savio rejected from Man City. Fernandes will let him off. Marmish rejected. Solanke rejected from Liverpool. There are a team of names of rejects who aren't good enough at that top level.

47:12And it's just a... Let's call all these names. Wait, wait, wait. Kingsky, how's he a reject? Okay, so you have two, I have nine. Porro, how's he a reject? Was that Man City? No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. Ball knowledge. Yeah, elbow knowledge. Elbow knowledge. Elbow knowledge. Elbow knowledge. I had to suffer this exact same thing on Saturday. Went on loan for two years. Right, so. Never played a game. Never played a game for City. Oh, yeah. Reject. You're calling that a reject? Yes. I'm counting. Yeah, he quite literally is because he signed for them and never played for them. Oh, Man City signed for them, couldn't even get in the fucking team.

47:46Yep. Where did he sign that? Elbow knowledge. Scroll up. Yeah. Yeah. Elbow knowledge. Shock. I mean. That's a two-year loan period, by the way. Are we really calling that a reject? Yes. Technically he's right That was my only argument Yes he stepped down From Brighton to Spurs It isn't a step down though Is it a World Cup winner I think it is I had this argument On a Saturday On paper it isn't Is a World Cup winner A reject Yeah exactly What? It's a reject He's a World Cup winner I don't start him I do not I don't actually give a fuck He's a reject In terms of In terms of actual football He plays Like World Cup whatever Isn't everyone a reject then?

48:29Possibly So what's the point of these arguments? Unless you're like Real Madrid right now No where's your argument for Savio for Mammouche for Salah I agree How's Salah a reject? Liverpool That was ages ago Chelsea Counts They signed him from Bournemouth He was at Liverpool nine years ago Counts to put my argument That's what I mean man But it's a weak argument It's a good argument I still have more rejects than you have non-rejects I don't know You do Van Hick's not a reject I'm not having Poro as a reject Kinski's not a reject Poro is a reject How's Van Der Ven a reject? By the way You are having Poro Because he was at Man City And got rejected Why is Van Der Ven a reject?

49:08He's dropped down Oh Van Der Ven He was trying to get a move But he couldn't get one He's had to stay at fucking Tottenham Reject That What? That doesn't make sense Yes it does He hasn't been rejected from anyone He was shopping himself around And then all of a sudden Who's shot in that? Okay Okay This is Can I explain This is Van Der Ven No he's not a reject He's just retiring This is Van Der Ven During the transfer window

49:31Just the whole time And there's like Wow It's like That's what you're tuning in for guys It's like me going on Hinge And I'm doing all these swiping rights Why do you go on Hinge? I'm like Why am I getting no matches? I end up staying at whatever Guys Is that the hard launch? Is that the hard launch? That's a rejection It is The definition of rejection I'll give you Mamouche Savino And No If I go out in the club right And I'm with the Galdem And all the Galdem leave And I'm dancing with them That's rejection You're in the club with Galdem? Double down now No but then they walk away That's what Van de Ven did.

49:59He's like, can I have a move? Yeah, but the point is they are a team of good players on paper, though, aren't they? Are they as good as their names are? No. They're not. I actually think... That's different than Richard. I hate this argument. Why do you think they've got that name? They're not Man City. Because of the way they've performed. No one even knew Porro would play for Man City. You didn't know. No, you didn't. You guys didn't know. It's just because you have bad ball knowledge. No I think it is a thing Where you achieve a name Especially when you come up From a bigger club Like you would Like a Man United Or Arsenal Like Mataj Fernandes From Southampton No A Man United Or Arsenal youngster Normally come with a bit It comes with pedigree Because you come from One of the bigger teams You get a bit more name So who named those names That have that Savio Manoos Instantly But Savio hasn't come through At Man City has he He's been at Man City though Has he Who Fernandes Coming from Man City Okay But why do you think By the way I don't rate Savino I think he's shit Yeah So you agree But there's a reason he's played for Man City, isn't there?

50:59Yes. So he must be all right. But then he clearly wasn't good enough. Yeah, he's not good enough. Yeah, he's not good enough. But Spurs aren't going to have players that are good enough for Man City, are they? Yeah, no, but so why... Or Man City, because they'll stay at Man City. The point I make is... Yeah? The point I make is, I actually think it's not just that Brentford or the Brightons have a better manager and system. I just think maybe their players are better and have less sexy names. Maybe a grub isn't as cool as a Fernandes. Yeah, but you'd have to be better. Everyone's saying how Pascal Graves is.

51:31Yeah, Ben Tanker's not saying that. Okay, that was a bad example. But like, do you remember when you have these names go around, they're called like McNeely and that, and it's just like, he can't be good. McNeely plus E. Or like Potter. Dwight McNeely. Also, by the way, what are you on about? That is very common with Brighton, Brighton by these players, like they're stooping you and all this. Everyone was like, oh, it's a good thing. Kaysayla, yeah. Who then has gone to AC Milan and he's stinking it up. Like, that's, I think you can say that about anything. I'm typing in Brian Raleigh. But also, like, just...

51:56As long as... Basically, whenever people don't perform, you can use that. But if Spurs would have started the season four from four, then... But they didn't. No, 100%. Would you say Kudos and Madison are rejects? No, but we've got on about starting 11. Okay, okay. I actually rate Madison. Please come to Newcastle. No, it's... Why is Benton Cora a reject? I skipped over him. No, but he's not a sexy name. Like, why is he even on the plate? On the topic of the Spurs players, do you think a big part of it is they've just got a mentality block because they just can't win at the stadium? What is going on there?

52:32I think Deserby's an issue. Do you though? I don't think Deserby's that good of a man. No, I don't. Yeah, he's the biggest fraud of them all. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Deserby. Does he deserve some time or not? Hey, see what you did there? I don't like how he's already doing this stuff in front of the cameras and that. The thing with Teller is just crazy, wasn't it? Yeah, like... You could not have waited for the judgment. Yeah, like, why are you doing that on pitch? It's for the cameras though, innit? Yeah. And it's like... Sassy. And you're the... Yeah, it takes on the knob. Yeah, that's what I mean.

52:58Yeah, it's perfect analysis. When you've had, like, a lot of time now with the team, and you've spent all this money, and then you start fucking, like, throwing them under the bus, it's just like, maybe you're the knob. On a more positive note, Villa... I was going to... I quickly asked there, sorry. They're turning it around. I think they just needed the team to gel. Totally ignore them, carried on. Yeah. That's fine, mate. We're having two combos there. That's good. Are you talking about Emre? No, I was going to ask about De Serbi. Who's going to get sacked first? De Serbi or Carrick? Oh. De Serbi will get sacked.

53:30Yeah. They can't sack him. They can't sack him. No, that's a lot of money. It's 50 million if they sack him. What? 50 million? He's getting a lot of money. No, I mean, he's sacked him. Oh, they're done there. Yeah, they're so fucked. They can afford it. Just get another contract. How do you... Is that true? Maybe it's on purpose. Get the killers on. Yeah, get the killers on the weekend.

53:50Just on Villa. I wouldn't jump the gun yet. They are starting to click a little bit. Are they? They need... Well, Jackson looks good. Suzuki looks good. Wendia's playing well. Manzambi was good. I've never scored on... McGinn's class. A bit of Tottenham tax, though, isn't it? A little bit. What's that? A bit of Tottenham tax. Yeah, they didn't play that well, in fairness. The players look like the better team, and they've come away with the win, so I feel like that is just... It's just classic Villa and Emery, though. Look at how they started last season. No, they're a lot more... No, yeah, that's fair.

54:19But I mean, they will click, I think, and they will be fine, Villa, but they've still got a bit to go because that wasn't a good Emory-Villa performance. Back line is. Yeah, back line is a bit fucked. But going forward, I think Jackson looks so sharp. Mings and Lindelof. Sharper than Kavalow. Yes. Well, we'll wait to see on that one, guys. Wait until May. Yes. Well, Kavalow begged for his other one, so he's actually on three. Yeah, he got it. After they locked the deadline. That's going to be the difference. I think if you was a man, if I was a man, I think you'd take that off. Because he did his Bogle's goal.

55:01You want me to argue with official Premier League stats? Yeah, because we can have our own goals. Well, you can say that about Broby's hat-trick goal. But I'm not betting Broby, am I? I'm betting Calvert-Lewin Jackson, you fucking idiot. I think Broby gets 19. What? Brentford beat Chelsea. Very, very impressively as well. good man do you know it was class it was just like when they were 3-0 up and Chelsea had all the ball but they just could not do anything they couldn't find any and the type of players that they had on the pitch and just Brentford just shutting them down so organised yeah that I'm so glad that Barco he's just shit getting booed every touch where's the one where he went flying it was fucking class someone bodied it was mint it was sharder and do you know it's good he's ginger so you can even if you're a fan in the crowd you have bad ice maybe you're like eight years old you know when he's there sticks out little ginger Argentinian little fucking pebble pebble?

55:58yeah he's like a pebble isn't he? yeah just like an annoying one he's like a pebble that'll kick it down the street they almost think I said it badly though aren't they? massively and Pedro oh yeah it's a totally different attack with that he'll be back after the international break yeah I think it'd be interesting because it'd be interesting to see how they come back actually I'm guessing all their players are away in international break it's not even like they could have time together but they just need to figure out how to defend once Kaisado's there that will genuinely help a lot but yes does Alonso need a little look at did Keith Andrews out tactic him did that do him or I don't think it was a case of Brentford are just more well set at the moment what is the ceiling for Brentford this season then I think they can get Champions League top four they genuinely look like second or third best team in the league at the moment with the fourth unbeaten 10 goals only four conceded no mathematically they're the fourth best but yeah no no but I'm just saying they're counting fourth at the moment is that how many teams could knock Brentford and Brighton off third and fourth I'll knock them off I'll knock them out Chelsea be up there at the end of the season Chelsea will finish with them too Liverpool yeah so then you've got them fifth or sixth Villa I think they could get fourth I think Brentford Brighton or Leeds one of them will get in the fifth not Bournemouth I'd actually I think out of the options I'd favour Brentford because Brighton have their conference league run don't they yeah and probably have less depth in the squad Brighton could be European champion Sangari's not even getting minutes look how good he is I don't know what's happened with that I don't think he's got a knock no no just out of favour just unfortunately wrong for once is he still in your FPL team no the key am I I dropped a zero point it was class yeah he had a card and then 41 minutes.

57:47But yeah, oh yeah, let's just talk about the Midlands derby. Sorry, man. Forrest should have probably done better in the match, but what a goal by De Silva. That first touch is insane. Yeah, it's outrageous. Rushworth, underrated. Yeah, I'd love a keeper assist to be fair. There you go, look at that. Staying combined. The current player of the year and record signing. I said England squad, underrated. under tell you what though November Coventry needed that that puts them in 18th mate yeah they needed that off the mark off the mark they're off the mark they are cooking Tottenham's last that's what I said earlier pretty beast mode to hold on as well 1-0 that was huge for them it was absolutely huge concerns for Forest they only won four games home games in the league last season they haven't scored in the first three this season in trouble or do you think Glasgow will turn it around I think that is a little worry in that performance interesting yeah Coventry are the team like for every team is like you can't lose against them they do play well though but I know but it's like when Derby you can't drop points against them are you saying that Forest potentially could head into a bit of turmoil if you're saying will they go down I still don't think I think Glasgow will be there I just what was disappointing is like they were restricting Forest to just like shots from outside the box Yeah, they were.

59:15Other than... Credit Coventry. Obviously, they got the goal, which I thought was a bit soft, the foul, if I'm honest. Oh, the J-Duce one? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's actually... He doesn't tread on his heel. No, but then it's the other Cov defender who trips him. There's a reverse angle. I was a bit confused. I'm surprised they overturned it. Yeah. I think if they'd have given it... Yeah, it's one of those. Either way, I thought they wouldn't overturn it. But I think Coventry deserved it, if I'm honest. It was a shit game, actually. It was a really good game. It was really wanked. It was a bad wash.

59:45We watched it on the world's smallest telly in the pub. Yeah, my local mate. You remember it? With my mate. Yeah, with your best friend. What, you were shagging another girl? Allegedly, Tom. He's disgusting. Everton beat Ipswich 1-0. Keanu Barry's back! No, he's not. He's got a brace. Well, yeah, another annoying. And then called out Brennan Johnson on Instagram, didn't he? Wait, what? For the offside thing. I mean, you robbed me of my bonus points. Did he captain himself? Probably I think every Prem player would wouldn't he? He's so bad Barry Bad Yeah He's got five already though He's got five goals Yeah but what's his actual What's his XG?

1:00:23I reckon it's like He hasn't got five Premier League goals No five goals in all comps He's got two Prem I reckon his XG's Well above Three in the League Cup They played In the League Cup They played Who's he scored against In the League Cup? He scored three against Preston Right here we go One against Palace Oh no, Palace was pre-season friendly Three against Preston And one against Ipswich Yeah, that's four And he's had plenty more chances too How's he on two Prem goals But there's only one goal here That doesn't make any sense Oh well Anyway, yeah What? How's that thing? He's gone against Palace as well Everton are going invincible Oh yeah, I did I've read it wrong Everton are going invincible Yeah, they're really solid defensively, aren't they?

1:01:11Tarkovsky, mate. Brantflake. Underrated. Brantflake. No, it's all Tarkovsky. Brantflake. Brantflake. That is... Everton always have a trio of Pickford, Tarkovsky plus somebody else and they just seem to never let go. I think Tarkovsky might be one of the most underrated centre-backs in the Premier League history. Oh, I disagree with that. I think so. I'm so annoyed that you weren't here to support my top ten Tarkovsky shirt. It was Callum. Oh, is it? Yeah. Brantflake is better, though. In the history of... No, he's not. Bramfait's better No he's not He's not better than Tarkowski I think he is He had a few But he had injury issues That's why And now he's back In the side proper Look at him Tarkowski had a better game Look at him Tarkowski literally Had a better game Yeah okay he had a better game But So look at him And Tarkowski And have seen once Play a better game Did he know Most of their moves Start with Bramfait I know but he still Get a goal didn't he So that's why He had a better game Well you were arguing That for Isak Weren't you I don't think it's Coincident Yeah so it's more Impressive that Yeah I actually kind of agree with that.

1:02:07I don't think it's a coincidence that they look brilliant defensively now that he's back in the line-up after last season. Yeah, because who was next to Tarcos when he wasn't there again? Keane. Keane. Oh, no fucking wonder. Keane's shit. Also, they've got Maitland-Nars as well, so... They're just

1:02:25Everton are a weird one because they're so well set defensively, but they're kind of like a 7 out of 10 across the pitch everywhere. They've got one striker, haven't they, as well? Oh, yeah, that's a big bit of trouble. I'm never excited to watch an Everton game. Brendan Johnson play out front. Yeah, but you always know it's going to be 1-0 Everton. He's not an out-of-and-out striker. Should we skip this one? Leeds Palace. I've seen nothing of it, so I can't talk about Leeds Palace. Yeah, Cameron Lynch would have scored. I'll say that. Shock. Literally, like, three yards out. Mitchell did score.

1:02:55He did score, actually, yeah, but ruled out for interference with a keeper, I think, offside. Yeah. He's underrated, Mitchell. Oh, I don't know what happened there. Yep. Yep, that's going to... There we go, guys. Welcome to the top 10 most controversial Premier League moments of all time. I'm here right now. Before I start, subscribe. Why? Do it. Why? Now. When? Because you get notified every single time we upload. That doesn't happen. No, you've got to click the bell. We'll do that. We're trying to hit 400k subs, man. We're trying to hit 400 ,000. So tell your nan and your auntie and your dog to subscribe.

1:03:33I can't believe Argentina knocked us out. Yeah, we got top 10 most controversial moments in the Premier League. Who wants to kick things off at 10? Me. Me. Me. By the way, I watched this back, yeah? This was messed up. I watched the highlights back of this game. I forgot how messed up this was. you know when United beat Arsenal to stop the 49 game did you see the refereeing in that no oh my god Neville should have got two yellows you like tackled Reyes twice Van Nistelroen went studs up on Ashley Cole trying to get me to remember that off the top of my head I never hear this list I never hear this Rooney fucking dived this is in your top 10 most controversial moments ever in the You're so controversial.

1:04:22Seth Fabric has threw a pizza at Alex Ferguson. Do you remember? How do you not remember? I remember it, but it's just not that big of a... Mate, when you watch that game... Do you not think pizza game it was quite controversial? Mate, it's huge. Tom, when you watch that game back... Not that I remember. Mate, when you watch that game back... It was good. No, no, no. Go back and watch it. There's a horrible tackle from Van Nistroen. It's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neville should have been two yellows minimum. But that was most games between Arsenal and United. Have you ever heard the commentary of that when the guy, he does it.

1:04:49Yeah, he's like, he barely touches him. Oh, yeah. He does touch him. Oh, yeah, he does touch him. Class. And then Fabregas threw pizza at Alice Ferguson. Alice. Alice Ferguson. That was pretty controversial. That's more controversial than the event. At the time, it was pretty nuts. I've seen the pizza game. I watched it back. Not the game. No, but that led to the pizza game, didn't it? Oh, you just, you just spilled in the narrative. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nice, I like it. He threw pizza at Fergie. Did it hit him? Yeah. Snap on the face. he threw it like a frisbee apparently margarita you could get some power frisbee in it it's a Hawaiian now I'm a little bit fall apart depends where you get it from is it pre-cut is it if it's not been cut I swear that's a weapon can you imagine like Fergie's reaction to get pizza thrown at his I mean there's worse things that you can have I mean also by the way fucking hashtag Kez because he threw a fucking boot at Beckham's head he didn't At least this is eligible.

1:05:46Allegedly, he's legend. He did, he kicked the boot. He kicked it, yeah. Oh! Not at Beckham, he just hit him. Oh, class that. He ended up leaving a few of them. I think I've got this whole controversy wrong. I'd say things I could remember. The controversial bit is like, what toppings would you have on a pizza? Probably. What's he throwing it with? I'm really starting to enjoy meat on there as well. Pardon? Do you remember Pedro Mendes' goal? Yeah. Yeah, that was actually messed up because that went so far over the line against United. it was like that's really poor from the line and once again United getting the decisions again you say that but the linesman was like 30 yards away everyone can see it everyone can see it because he shot from the halfway line so the last defender was brought from the halfway line and by the time it went the linesman could just see that's all it was it was bad though it was bad I remember that number 8 honourable mention in number 8 actually not even it's just can't say honourable mention if it's in number eight.

1:06:45I don't want to mention in number eight. That's not honourable. It's just quite funny. Do you remember? Of course I remember. Lee Bowie versus Kieran Dyer. Yeah, that's a class one. 50 Cups. That's pretty controversial. That's one of the greatest Premier League of Romans. I got it. I got that high. That was unbelievable. Do you know why it's good? I should have put that in my mind. That went around the school. Let's recreate it. Yeah. Yeah, you were doing that. And I was like, yeah, you've got fun. In Seaford. Do you know that's class? It's because they actually got some bats away. Yeah, they're proper hits.

1:07:13The game's happening over there. Meanwhile, like in the bottom of the camera, it's just fucking... That's Prem Folklore. Yeah. The best part of that is when he made him shake hands. Yeah, they're even a press conference afterwards and they're doing this. Terrible bad management. Number seven, obviously, John Terry and Wayne Bridge. That was awesome. Seven? Oh, shit. I forgot to put it on my list. I forgot to put it on my list. I think that's... Yeah, I think that's huge. So obviously, John Terry and Bridge. That was like everywhere. squad as well. He's England captain as well, isn't he? And even years down the line, fucking KSI's bringing it up to win.

1:07:47A bit harsh that, I thought. I thought it was. We made him drop out of the pipe. Didn't he say something to him then? We did. Were you scared of him? I did? No, you didn't. I said, you're harsh, mate. For context, some people may not know about this by the way, watching this show. So John Terry shagged Mrs. Bridge. I don't think she was his wife. Oh. Well, partner. Partner Bridge. Not his current partner. Not current partner, no. Yeah, basically, surely they know this but yeah Terry fucked and then they played each other on the weekend so awkward wasn't it when they were teammates oh my god do you remember when they sat next to each other on the England bench that was that was was it before yeah he knew Terry knew what he was doing though number six number six Sunderland's beach ball goal I've got I've got that higher against Liverpool yeah Darren Bent yeah Darren Bent yeah do you think that's more controversial than John Terry fucking I actually forgot mate that's never happened I thought that was like it You actually organised that mad.

1:08:44One tour about England teams. It was like teams in England. It tore a family apart. It tore a family apart. There's kids involved. And there's a beach ball on the beach. Yeah, in hindsight, maybe. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I forgot about the word. That beach ball. I thought that's more off the beach. You were at that game. Why are you at Sunderland game? Because we were Sunderland fans. We were like, do you want to come to the game? Oh, really? You are a Sunderland fan. And we always been mad. Did you chuck the beach ball? He was a Liverpool fan, if you remember. It was a Liverpool beach ball.

1:09:10Were you in the away end? No, I wasn't. Isn't it weird? Someone's going around today and there's still the Liverpool player. What? I didn't say that right. What did you just say? Shut up, carry on. What have I got? Five. Five, just the whole West Ham, Carlos Tevez thing. That was a bit mental. And then he actually scored a goal that kept West Ham up and it relegated Sheffield United and he shouldn't have been to the club because he's illegal. They got compensation, didn't they? Yeah, they got 30 million, didn't they? He still got relegated. Oh, that's good. No, but I'd say it was. It was Masquerano as well, wasn't it?

1:09:40Yeah. Because they were third party. I've got different ones in this. This is good. Yeah. I'm doing all right here. And this isn't an attack. It's a genuine question. Was this Chachewy Teed? No. Okay. Why? Just from the way that it's... I don't believe he's put this much effort to make it look nice and numbered. I spent three hours trying to do it. Dashes between the numbers. All the correct parts. I did mine off memory. You can tell it's not. Look. There's no gap there, but there's a gap there. Okay. That's fair. I'm just saying. A robot wouldn't do that. Where'd I get to? Oh, number four. Suarez.

1:10:12Yeah, yeah, yeah. Suarez bite on Ivanovic. He's done that a lot. Do you not think that's actually meant to? Imagine we tune in next week and like, Jacob Murphy's just bit off. Realistically, he's just not a good person, is he? That awful bloke. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, terrible bloke. Terrible bloke. Luis Diaz. The dislodged goal. Was it last year? Year before? Two years ago, wasn't it? Two years ago. In Spurs. the VAR went good process boys do you know what's even worse about that is that that's the that's the better meme that's the better meme when it just says on the caption good process and you just put that everywhere good process yeah yeah it's pretty decent

1:10:55what I just said decent decent number two tell them lad number two Covid Covid goal against Villa Sheffield United no against Sheffield United Villa which relegated Sheffield United by a point Covid goal yeah it was in Covid remember did it keep bottom of the foot no Sheffield United went Covid as a general it kept Villa up yeah but it relegated Sheffield United it relegated him didn't it Sheffield United did go down but it was by one point I think no or Villa stayed up by one point Villa stayed up by a point tell you what is controversial Covid Covid should we just done this in the world we should do this on back side And then the last one, obviously...

1:11:40You don't like it. Yeah. Oh, wait! Mate, he kung fu kicked someone in the chest. You haven't got Cantona's kick. No, but you don't have the thing that I thought you'd put in. Well, don't you? Yeah, because someone else might. By the way, you got 10 months ban? I think it's like, yeah. Is it 10 months? Something like that. How has he done that? The correct answers are here. It's not that hard, is it? That's stupid. So, 10. I've decided I don't want to do any VAR stuff because it does me head in so I've just done a blanket VAR joins the Premier League in 10 so every decision VAR has ever changed that's a bit of a cop out no just because I didn't I presumed everyone's going to put VAR decisions in I've got VAR decisions in I haven't got any VAR decisions that Louis Dears one was bad though yeah that's what I mean I don't need to say that again because they thought they got the right decision do you know what I mean but I do think VAR joining you could argue controversial 9th Gabriel punching Bruno G then scoring later on you're pathetic you're pathetic is that a controversial fucking controversial only for you is that other than you you're pathetic well it's my list mate I've got a thing that's not even in the Prem so carry on 8th Adibayor celebrated in front of Arsenal oh that's a great oh you fucking one of my best moments in the Prem that's a great shot I forgot that I hated that with a passion 7th Cantona kicks a fan probably is deserved only in 7 yeah that's way worse they've got 10 months ban oh there is wait until you hear some of these he fly kicked someone in the chest Right, tell me if this is worse than this then.

1:13:06Gibbs getting sent off for Chamberlain. That can't always be way worse. Yeah. I've got that really high. It's terribly too high. What, the Gibbs-Chamberlain one? Yeah. That is bad to be fair. I forgot that one. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, it is. That's bad. I mean, I spoke to Andrew Mariner about it and it's all he ever gets remembered for. Really? Yeah. A current star fly-kicking a fan. No, no, I mean, yeah. A 10-month ban. It's like Erling Haaland going into the crowd and just go, Yeah, but he deserved it, probably, didn't he? He's not kicked him for now. He's not... Okay. Five, beach ball goal, Sunderland.

1:13:44More than the, more than Gibbs, what, Oxlade, Chamberlain? More than, Eric Cantona kicking a fan. That's mental. Why do you bother with these lists? Good list. Go on. Four, Suarez, Baita, Vanovic. Mate, yours is still better than mine, so keep going, bro. Don't worry. Third one. Joey Barton scraps everyone at the end of the Man City game second Diane Boyer have a fight yeah that's a good one and then first no one's got this yet something to avoid a relegation point deduction for playing an unregistered player for five games oh yeah so they basically played they played G Dong 1 five games in the season it was when Bruce was there I didn't know about it I remember the player he scored against City they should have got yeah they should have got a point reduction they got away with it and it would have relegated them I'm thinking of a different player I think that is controversial one because fuck Sunderland and two you just blatantly cheat he's made an impact you did it knowingly and you got a fine is this a different player because there was another player from Sunderland who basically lied about his whole resume and got a trial and he came on the pitch but he actually wasn't a footballer no that's Ali Dia you're on about at Southampton but if yours is terrible you go last red and white stripes oh fair because I think we might be funny I've just seen some yours Mine is funny Oh no I've gone a bit different then I haven't done any like Okay Ten I've gone the Pardew headbutt Yeah I'll stick Do you remember any headbutt?

1:15:12But I try That's amazing That's A manager headbutted Yeah it was No but he actually headbutted him By the way I don't know that one It's at Hall It's when he's A manager in Russell He headbutted a player He headbutts David Mayne By the way There's a Newcastle fan Who's from like Asia somewhere Who supports Newcastle Because this went so viral That's how he chose his team. This is... Honestly, this is... He's a manager. Let's look. He just headbutts him. Headbutts the people for YouTube. Then he's like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, I didn't do that. I'm only joking. I've also got Mendes over the line nine.

1:15:46Do you not remember as well? Pardew's grown up to Venga. Yeah, I was going to put a whole list of Pardew ones in. Oh, no one's got the too cool Conte handshake. Yeah, I'm going B. No, I don't have it. I nearly did do that. I thought he's not that much. Eight, nine, I've got Mendes over the line. Eighth, I've gone the Benitez rant. Facts. About facts, yeah. I'm talking about facts just when he goes in on Man United and thingy. Seventh, I've just done the 115 charges. That's quite good. Pretty controversial. That is pretty controversial. Yeah, yeah. Sixth. I've gone when, I can't remember if no one's got this, the Rio Ferdinand drug ban.

1:16:22I don't remember. Yeah, yeah. Got a nine-month drug ban on drugs. Oh, right. You know, he missed it. He didn't do it. He missed it. He didn't show up to the test. They told him he was going to have a test. Told him to be there and just apparently slept in. Nine-month ban. Yeah, got a nine-month ban. Pitchside don't contest. Five, Sol Campbell going to Arsenal. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Spurs captain going to Arsenal. That is a big... For free. After saying I'm staying at Spurs. He could have done Jack Korbach as well. Number four. I just spat on him. The Suarez boy. The Suarez boy. Third, I went with the Keegan rant.

1:16:59oh that's good is that controversial or is it not just beast mode both he went mad yeah that's mint I'll tell you what I lost I lost the respect for him that day yeah I'm really right why don't we have more of that you know also RIP because they all fucking snog each other now yeah second Cantona kick and first John Terry and Winbridge oh fair I would have had Dyer and Balian if I'd have remembered them but I didn't I'll be honest I amended mine because my 10th was a non-prem one, but I didn't want to mention it. What was it? You can't change your list. You can't change your list. All right, fine.

1:17:34Don't say what the new one is. You have to say the old one. What was it? The previous 10 was Kepa's behaviour in the cup final when he basically became manager. No, not coming off. All right, fine. That was pretty good. 10th, Phil Brown team talk. Oh, great. Good shot. Yeah. Which one's this again? He's got the players out on the back. That's his world's favourite segment we've ever done. And then Jimmy Bullard does the celebration after, yeah. It came to mind when he was told. He wasn't even there when he did it though. Makes it even funnier. So would you say he was begging it? Ninth, I've got Rodri's handball versus Everton that never got given.

1:18:06And then City went on to it. Top 10 most controversial moments ever. I was spoken about for like two weeks. I spoke about for about one episode of Pitchside. Tony offside goal that got given against. Yeah, that's, it didn't, I mean, to be fair, we lost the league by two points. Exactly. So that was a three point game. Yeah. We lost the league by two points. I don't think that's crazy. I said it was the worst one It's a great segment VAR was so concentrated On the other player They just forgot Was it Norgard Yeah they just They drew the line Off another person It was a bad decision Cost us the league Cost us the league mate It's not the 10th No I wouldn't put it No it's not It's the 8th Yeah exactly 7 Suarez Barton Ivanovic 6th Boje vs Dier Boxing match 5th Harland Saying stay humble

1:18:53Why is that controversial? That is controversial That is weird More than Louis Suarez Biting a human Yeah but that Stay humble Just like your viewer That fuelled An entire narrative For like two seasons Of football It wasn't that controversial Him just saying Stay humble It's actually good advice Yeah We kind of liked it Because it was like Beef mode Yeah but it was Stuff that someone By definition Was controversial People spoke about it For ages If you're more controversial Than a human Bying a human That's illegal No that's the worst Thing to do It's assault Yeah it is Like the controversy That came off the back of it That's assault It's a verbal assault on Arteta in Arsenal.

1:19:27Yeah, yeah, you can't talk about Arsenal. Fourth I've got Adebayor, running the length of the pitch in celebration. Third... I've probably even got that, all these above Dyer and Bowyer. They had a fight on the pitch. Yeah, I did. I basically did it off memory, so... Nah, stay humble, bro. Second Louis Diaz, and then first the Gibbs white... Gibbs red card versus Doxidation. What the fuck? That came to mind... Yeah, because it came to mind the most when I spoke to Andre Mariner about it. No, I don't because I completely forgot that. And the John Terry one too. So the biggest most controversial moment in Premier League history is Chamberlain getting...

1:20:02It came... It's not the most reasonable. It came to mind when I was doing it. I was doing it straight off. Because when I did a shoot with Andre Maronite, it's literally... All right, fine. It's literally the only thing he gets remembered for now and he says he can't ever escape it. You've all missed some big ones. Go on then. We know this is your segment, Will, so what did you want us to say? I'm here to try and remind you. obviously you mentioned the end of the run but the nil-nil when Van Ritchie Leroy hit the bar yeah oh when they all came and like went yeah yeah yeah I did think of that but I didn't think it was top ten the Robbie Fowler sniffing celebration no that's ratings also the only thing with that is that was pretty messed up at the time yeah I reckon I was like alive for that yeah but I don't know I mean you were alive I've only seen wasn't it 99 yeah 99 alright okay It was actually...

1:20:53You were going down the Weston Island. And the Cantona kick. Yeah, but when was that? Surely that's earlier. This is what I was trying to get to. When's the Cantona kick? 99. Cantona kick was 99. That can't be right, can't it? No, it was like... No, Cantona retired. 95. Yeah. No, but it's got to be the 4-F kick. You watch that. Even today, you go like, what the fuck? Oh, 95. The foul one, you just kind of laugh, don't you? What about this one? 1998. Is this a bit silly? Paolo Di Canio pushes over the ref. Oh, yeah, I forgot that. Yeah, that's a good one. Surely that's got to be up there. Yeah, but it's only 10 spaces.

1:21:22Yeah, that should be in there, you know. I forgot that. That and Dyer and Bowen. All right, next time I'll do 11. Top 11. Right, last week, guys, as you know, we did the most underrated player at every Premier League club. No, you didn't get a chance to do this, so now you have a chance to redeem yourself. We're doing overrated this week. We're going to be nasty. I don't like this. It's fine, man. This is something that we do every season just to see how it changes over time as well. Yes. I love it. Can we be back there, Will? Right, I'm going first because I struggled with it. Are we all going to start from working our way up, each club?

1:21:52Can do. Can you... Me as well, yeah. Spurs? Basically, I've done mine. I changed my over-8. Yeah, yeah. So it's in different order. We'll start with Spurs, Tom. Shout it out. Spurs. Savino. I think he's so... Vandervan, obviously. Tonali. I've already had six players, but Savino's the most over-rated player I've ever seen in my life. He's crap, isn't he? No end product. Can I... I think Tonali have the most possible options I think Tonali's a good shot actually Is Solanke overrated? I don't think so Nah I think they're done with him though aren't they? Have you not seen that photo? First year First year I suppose It's him sharpening a bow and it's two in the middle of the head like the shape obviously he's doing the wrong bit Not quite hobby-bod Good times I actually think you could use it Oh mate that's probably the easiest club to answer for He finally come round to the idea he might be overrated It's just because people think he's a player, which he's not.

1:22:46Who thinks that? Everyone. A lot of Spurs fans. I think Spurs fans are realising quite quickly now what kind of player he is. Who thinks it? Spurs fans. You did say he was better than Declan Rice. Yeah. He was for a period of time. Oh, Lewis. He was. You are unbelievable. He is over. I know. Do you want to hear something ironic? No. From memory. The person that was sat in your seat last week said he was underrated. Yeah, but he doesn't watch Premier League. Okay. I've got it on good info that Callum Fowler has no idea about Prem Ball who said that? I think Tom I think it was Rory Talks Ball I think he still watches the Prem he just prefaced Rory Talks Ball so you got it on good authority from someone who you can't remember someone told me that who's next?

1:23:31Fulham I've got a good one no way no way I think he's gone I've gone a bit early but I think Gonzalo Garcia I don't mind it With the reputation. Yeah. Mine's Oscar Bob. I think it's time. Oh, so harsh. Friend of the show as well. I know it's... Look, look, look. He hasn't done... That's really... He's had a while... That's friendly fire. I've tried to avoid friends of the show. Who did he score against? Look, he's had a while at Fulham now and he has not... He's not really done what anyone expected. Was he not injured? Was he not injured? Or am I just dreaming now? He's been injured. It hasn't been so hard.

1:24:03This is only his first... He had a broken leg last year. Yeah. And he hasn't really been good. We had a broken leg. No, that was about two years ago. No, it was last year. You have to remember, to be overrated, you must be reared. That is true. That is true. But also, he only made 14 appearances last year. And what did he do? Yeah, but they were all off the bench. No, it's not that good. I think, I just don't think he, look, he came with a certain reputation. I do agree with that. He has come with a big reputation. It's not saying he's not good, but at this point, I have to say, he hasn't lived up to that reputation.

1:24:32I think that's probably fair. He's 23 as well, by the way. I think that's fair. Oh, I feel so horrendous in mine. Go on. Pretty far. I think Smith-Rowe might be a bit overrated. Because every time he starts... You think he's carrying the same reputation as Lydon? No, people get excited by him when he's like, oh, Smith-Rowe's starting. He's going to come on. I don't know how much he affects the games at the moment. He can't even get in ahead of Josh King, though, can he? But Smith-Rowe's still that exciting name. People get, like... You think? He's just carrying a bit of rep with his name? Yeah, I think potentially, yeah.

1:24:58But I love you, Emil. Sorry. Why do you think it's worked out as you wanted to hope it would for Smith-Rowe? He's had a few good half seasons. I think he's just a very patchy player. Yeah. Sadly. Mormons kind of player. He's not athletic enough. He's technically good enough. He's just not that. He's athletically... He'd actually be suited to La Liga. Why not just go over there? No, because Gordon... Get him over! Gordon works there just because he's fast as fuck, isn't it? And also in a team that is just absolutely battering the rest of it. It's going fast. He's one of La Liga's best players ever.

1:25:31He wouldn't be good over. Of all time. Who have we got next? Coventry. Thomas Asante He's never rated though Is he He's playing in the Premier League Should be playing in League One Came with life from Selford I've gone Wank Tywo A one year I've got a one year as well Yeah I don't mind that I've got a one year I've went to Silva Wait what What a little time I've got a one year Do you Yeah I nearly went to one year But I think Thomas Asante He's supposed to do one like Is that from a person He's played in the Premier League But not right Yeah, but he's starting for them. How are you rocking up to Premier League games with Thomas O'Santay?

1:26:09So what, he's so bad. What? He was suspended. Well, he can play wide or... I know that I'm a time manager in West Brom. And then I got sucked. Next up, Tom, we've got Bournemouth. This is our team. Okay, I do rate this player. You're not going to like me. But I just think he's become overrated. Truffert. Truffert. No, he's not overrated. He's class. I've just gone with... I think Bournemouth is his level. No way. You think? Yeah, or like, Bournemouth, fucking good team. Oh, good team. But like, people talking about like one of the top teams, I'd be surprised if that. Well, they just produce the best left back each year, and then they move on.

1:26:44And also, he could be in a team that potentially might get Champions League. Bournemouth? Could do. I'm backing them to come back again. Why not? Okay. Good running, yeah. Good running Europa. There we go, Lowe. Oh, sorry, you think they'll win the Europa League? Oh, yeah, got it. They won't finish in the Champions League in the league. I've gone with Justin Clive, but I still think he's got way to finish. Yeah, I don't mind that. I don't mind that. I've got someone who you'd argue isn't rated but I think he's even worse than people think Petrovic what he's good he's been good for Bournemouth he's been really good I think he's naff you don't watch Bournemouth then I was even good you don't watch he's not he's literally one of them yeah he is fantastic also also also also a friend of the show Alex Scott talks about how good of a keeper he is yeah he's good man Petrovic's been really good for them I think I put him on my underrated last week probably yeah I think he's more on the More on the topic of wonder.

1:27:35I've got my reservations about this. I think this player is a very good footballer. You have to be. But the levels that which some certain man speak about him, I don't know if he can reach it. Ryan. Oh, okay. He is extremely hyped and I think he's good. I just think we just need to chill out a little bit. I think he's overrated. Well, yeah, people think he's like the future of world Brazilian football. Do they? You do. What? You're doing the thing again. I've also never said that. People do think he's like fantastic. I just think we need to chill out a little bit. He's already in the Brazil. Let him grow.

1:28:09Yeah, let him grow. Let him prosper. He's not as high rated as Esteval. I think he's finally... No, he's not rated as Esteval. I think he's as high as Esteval. Good player. No, he's not. No, no, no. I'm seeing this. I think Esteval... I think people rate him. Who? They overrate him. I mean, he's still at Bournemouth without disrespect. But he's not been picked up by one of the big clubs yet. He might do. He might do eventually, yeah. Who? Him. You can't just... What? You just said people think he's the future of Brazilian football. I haven't seen anyone see that. All of Ender last season. What did I say?

1:28:41You said he's the fucking bollocks. And he's the future of Brazilian football. I don't think he's over here. Aston Villa. I have gone with Mattson. Oh, Pav Torres. I nearly went with him, but he's all right. He's just slow, isn't he? Villa fans don't even like him anymore. Yeah, but he's had the howlers in there. oh yeah but then again the problem is who else do you pick from the squad oh it's easy Garnaccio you can't keep doing that for every answer you definitely can be as long as he plays in the Premier League he's overrated same way I take a Sante over Garnaccio and I'm not taking a piss I agree with that Garnaccio is fuck oh sure he's as shit as I said he was at the start of the season what level is he you tell me honestly mate he's championship level championship even then even then I think he gets bullied in the championship I think he gets bullied in the championship no he wouldn't he wouldn't he'd get fucking put in his little earring he'd be like the top see Garnaccio should go La Liga or Serie A yeah definitely he's got out of the Premier League he's not suited for him I agree with you I've got Garnaccio and then a conversation topic Joao Gomez I know you're a huge fan of him do you think he's overrated is he really the level everyone thinks he is what level I don't really rate him I've not really seen him because he got to send off he's he played well over the weekend yeah does he have a lot of hype around him that's just me being ignorant He has that much hype.

1:30:03He's coming from Wolves. Yeah, that Wolves. You were raving at that. I think he's really good, yeah. I think he's really good. I think this is his level. He's trying to create a conversation. No, no. Mine's just from a point of ignorance. I don't know enough people that rate him to say he's over it. I think it's one of those where just jury's out, innit? I think this is his level, Villa. Yeah, fairs. Top six-ish. Crystal Palace. They just have a lot of shit. The thing is they just have a lot of shit. I'm jumping in. I'm going Adam Watton.

1:30:38Who else do you pick from the squad that's actually rated? I've chosen Pino, but I don't even think he's that rated. Watton's been dropped off stinkers all year, mate. I'm only doing it off the season. I put Strand Larson just because they reared him enough to sign him, but he's actually terrible. Can I just ask you about Watton? If you think he's overrated, where should he play? Is he at his level? The low average. Because, you know, he's been linked to Liverpool. He was linked to Real Madrid at one point. he probably is better than Palace but then who does he move up to? People talk around at one point I can't go to Brighton that's just crazy but in terms of in the Premier League is he good enough for a big six?

1:31:13Maybe but who does he replace in those big six teams? He's also doing it in the Palace side I'm asking if he moves to big six who does he replace in the big six team? Can he be as good as Ellie Anderson? Yeah but think about their midfield now I'm asking I'm saying genuinely right now who do you play for? like you rotate don't you no but like he wouldn't he's not I don't for the money he's cost he wouldn't be worth I'm saying I'm saying I'm genuinely well yeah if they're getting rid of McAllister oh no he'd probably start from now wouldn't he yeah I'm not I've got Quentin Timber especially during the World Cup as well I haven't seen I just think he's a bit shit I think I think I think he's just living off his brother's height oh yeah that's a good one Chuck GPT

1:32:02Sunderland Oh Roofs I've gone Roofs That's fucking Danso Big time I've gone Danso Danso's crap I can't believe they signed him Yeah he is shit And people rate him By the way Can I say by the way Even Spurs He is dog shit I just want to say right now though I actually I feel like we all Wait did you say Roofs Yes he's been shit this season Especially Yeah I based on this year He's been shit And like we all owe Theo an apology Because when we did He ain't been that bad When we did one player for everyone to sell And he said Roofs you would have sold him at a premium and that would have been good business would have been great business no mate even that Enzo goal I know it's a good strike you can't come on mate he's just been caught out there it's because you've got Danzo in front of him what big mistake has he made how much has Sonnen conceded already can't just put that down to the goal of course he can he's not the level that he set from last season yeah that was my he has nowhere near that level he may not have reached the same level as last season but he's still been good he's really good against Alkmaar in the Europa League.

1:32:59That's true. Fucking hell, man. You've got to pick somebody from the team. I don't reference anyone then. Alkmaar. It's a Europa League. It's the first Europa League game back, isn't it? It's a massive game at home and they've kept a clean sheet and he's made some good saves. They're not that good, are they? No, Danso's not that good. There's a different level of opposition, Alkmaar. Yeah, that's a good one. He's at Alkmaar. They're in the Europa League. Also, Rufus, he has got a clean sheet this season, the Pro Man. He's only 23. I just don't think Rufus has been that bad this season. It's been poo compared to last season.

1:33:24Yeah, I mean, that's what you've got. It's hard to say. I actually think it's hard to say for something because they're one of those teams where a lot of them are fairly rated. I agree. Nottingham Forest. Hard to say Ndoi. He's not going to get in this team anymore. I'm going to say Ndoi. Hard to say Ndoi's not going to get in this team anymore. Oh, I wish I said Ndoi. I've gone Milankovic. I went to lap. I said that a few years ago and you were like... He gets loads of DEFCON. It was a few years ago. There must have been a point when Defcon didn't exist. Whenever Forrest had that good year, you were like, yeah, he gets loads of clean suits on FBL.

1:33:58Yeah, he contributed a lot, didn't he? But I mean, in terms of like now, I don't really rate him that much. I think that was ahead of the curve. Maybe he were ahead of the curve, yeah, but at the time, obviously it was wrong. What? Who've you gone? Dallap. The fact that he's actually managed to get a transfer. He's actually been all right, Forrest. I think he's underrated Dallap. Yeah. He's now their starting number nine. It doesn't matter shit he's getting. Yeah. From that stint at Chelsea. He's actually good. Yeah, he is good. He is good. He played well. But this is his level, man. I think he's really good for Horace.

1:34:28I like him. Manchester United, where'd we start? Lissandra. I hit them all. Yeah, I got Martinus, yeah. Mate, it just is. You put him as like the third best player in centre-back in the World Cup. In the World Cup, yeah. I'm his biggest hater. I think he's dog shit. In the World Cup, he played really well. No, he didn't. They conceded multiple goals per game. Two against Kate Burney, mate. Trust me. By the way, every time for the last four years on this show, I've said Martinez is shit and not as good as everyone thinks and you look always come at me saying I'm wrong. Four years is a long time though.

1:34:57Someone can be caught for shit. Always. I've never been on Pro Martinez. Has anyone ever said these brilliant... I remember when people have a go at me. Who? You don't remember using AI? Three. Yes. AI's destroying the world. Who have you got? Yeah, and it's destroying our lists by the looks of it. Not ours, just yours, brother. Who have you got? I've got three names Martinez is one of them You can't have three names What? What do you mean You can't have three names You can't choose Sometimes I put three names down You can't choose three names Marcus Rashford You think Rashford's overrated? You think Rashford's overrated?

1:35:31More than Martinez He's still rated And I think this season That United He's not been contributing To Man United The way he should be I agree with that It's hard to say he's overrated though Because he's went It's because he's had a good season At Barca Shouldn't be at United though I don't think he's overrated Because he's had a good season At Barca And Man United have been shit so it's like is it Marcus Rashford but he's not contributing himself I know but like we've only just but what's anyone doing there like we've just seen that he is good I'd be more inclined to blame the team and the manager over Marcus Rashford who's just had a good season very good point thank you it's ball knowledge time it's which Fatou oh that's harsh man he's been good for them this season yeah but got sent off yeah he's crap he's not crap he's not crap he is I don't mind you saying he's overrated but he's not crap okay well he's overrated that's fair but when he's good man he's really good yeah so I'm going off what you said earlier in this show I've got Julio Inciso really?

1:36:27he's been their best player I saw you write that down and that's what I giggled at when you caught me Jamie I don't know why you put Inciso he's been really good yeah but he's not as good as everyone says but he has been really good he's been their best player everyone fucking hyped up to it Brian as well I think you're bang average mate he's not bang average he's been playing really well though yeah what five games mate so you're punishing him for being good he was at Strasbourg wasn't he yeah he was at Strasbourg was it the year before no he wasn't he was at Brighton part of your reason was he was at Brighton he was at Brighton he was at Brighton and you're referencing the 24-25 season how old is he 22-23 22 so he was a 20 year old at Brighton by the way one goal of the season as well does that make him a very good footballer then he's good at the well Garnatio did didn't he the whole season there you go there you go Garnatio can't be that bad he's not he's just got a shit attitude hasn't he counts for a lot though but Ntso's good he's not overrated you can't say that bro maybe I'm wrong I think you might I think you might be and you held your hands up I've got one I've gone oh sorry I thought you said Joss no you've gone I've gone just because I think he's getting a bit much he was unbelievable in the championship and I think he's kind of like low Premier League level but it's get Leaf Davies no don't say Leaf Davies no wrong wrong

1:37:54FPL friend of the show no actual friend of the show I've met a man played pro clubs oh nice is that why you put him in your tee no he's just actually I actually just think he's good and he's cheap and he's just scored and assisted that goal against United I think David's a good player because I don't see anyone going that he's this no I've seen murmurs of like to get to Man United and stuff to replace Shaw no but I think that'll be I think that'll be more of like because they can't afford and Hall's contracts have done they can't afford it and they need a stopgap it's not that we hit their first choice but it'll be more I don't think he should ever be that Man United should never be going for a player like that I think by the way Leaf Davis is good he's got a really nice left foot and I think he's a solid player but do you not think as a backup option at Man United in their current state for the amount of their financial restrictions that they put themselves under I believe Davis wouldn't be a bad he'd be okay I imagine you're still with Shaw's injury record who else do you put in left back if he's injured they're not going to get Hall is that a priority I think he's quite poor defensively yeah he's like a full throttle I think he's really good I think he's really useful he's actually similar to Giles at Hall I think he's better than Giles but he's a bit more athletic but yeah might say Chelsea it's not that I don't rate him I just think if Palestra ever plays the start he's had people are getting a bit excited I've got Issa Diop why is he ever read?

1:39:20he's just wasn't good at Fulham not good at Ipswich he's just not good he's just not a good player he's still in the Prem still actually he's probably a Premier League level player I don't know I mean he did alright he walked up in Morocco arguably you could say he's one of their better players but like is he? no he's not Issa Diop do wait yeah but you've just gone quote. You've just done that on your own. What are you supposed to do? It's because, no offence, but I'll get in the team. No, you wouldn't. Chelsea. Chelsea, Chelsea. I've got Fafana. Yeah, Wesley. Every time. No, but is that not getting to a point now where everyone just knows?

1:40:00No, but there's still people out there that think he's underrated. I've got the correct answer. It's Corwell. Callum. Oh, yeah. I don't mind that. Corwell, sorry. I know you had your injuries, but like... He's like their only shining light in defence, I think just picking on people no he's not no he's not he's been poor I think you're arse on Lever but LeCroix's been better that doesn't make sense LeCroix and even Astrid he's shy and like Hata some good little good little players although he was terrible even I wanted to say LeCroix as well because he's not really all that I don't think LeCroix's been decent though this year that's why I went with Colwell how much was LeCroix 55 45 50 quite a lot of money Colwell had a had a big injury didn't he so he might come back short in your bank quite a lot of money yes true I'd say that Newcastle up next I hate this one Sven Bottman I got Bottman as well yeah I went Bottman but I will preface it that he has actually been good this season has he?

1:40:54you said last year yeah he was really bad in pre-season really bad in pre-season but this season he's bucked up a little bit but out of everyone it's Bottman yeah Dan Byrne is going to take his place Hull City I've gone Giles oh a Gry

1:41:12I don't know I went Giles because he's like one of the few players I actually know I'm missing the right answer it's Lewis Coyle Louis Louis you did this last time we did this before he explained he's also not over he's like he's an aging like just a captain yeah like no one rates him move on for what just from the club club captain move on yes alright nice nice man Everton Brennan Johnson oh sadly I've gone yeah friend of the show sadly I've gone Barry I went Brennan Johnson Barry's not overrated he's not rated yeah but we've had Barry is not rated by anyone yeah he is though who we just said it earlier you were picking him up I was I didn't even forget what you said we were talking about how many goals he's got yeah you got it up in footmark yeah but he is dog shit I think the rest I almost think other than the two people mentioned the rest of the Everton squad is fairly underrated yeah I've got Brennan Johnson I don't feel good about it, but...

1:42:08I've got Mikhelenko. Fuck. People rating? Why? I don't know. I'll be honest. I don't know. I don't have anyone else. Oh, really difficult. They're neither underrated or overrated. Good player. Everyone thinks he's good. Tarkovsky's solid. Everyone thinks Pete's solid. Juice Burrell's a good player. Men and I's all right. Yeah, and we've got a lot of friends at the show. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's why it's hard. I'll be honest. Oh, you sellout. Yeah You're a sellout Do you agree with my Brendan Johnson show? Expose yourself as a sellout He should be joining me Because the entire front line He's not allowed to call out I'm not going to trust The word that Tom Garrett says Because he has agendas Because he's mates with them I was on about That explains the Well you went to OB with Brendan Oh that's not who I was on about Mate he's across the front three The front three He can't pull a bad name out He's got Jack Keenan And Brendan Johnson You are discreet I was on about Greenwich and Jewish rule I don't think Johnson's overrated I don't think people rate him I would say that I don't Did you just attack your mate?

1:43:09He gets slated So basically you don't want to say because your mate was Jack Grealish I don't think I think Grealish is the one who possibly could be I agree I used to respect you Jules Buhl's not overrated No he's not He's borderline underrated He's underrated We might have our battles but I always think he's respect I think Jack's underrated Is he in the Englands? Grealish could be underrated Jim Garner is Nice James Garner's underrated He's just pulled out injured Jules Buhl still not got a call up I don't agree with Brennan Johnson at all I don't think anyone rates I think he gets slandered You don't rate your mate?

1:43:43James Gunn has been called into the squad Oh As a replacement I'll just see the headlines and make it up as I go along really No Tiano Barry over it Yeah you can't be saying Barry over it I can't pick anyone at home Liverpool If anyone says Virch just cop out I've gone Virch Fuck Same I've got two years in a row man Oh here we go Who rates Virch? Here we go. Alisson. People are still not... They're not putting him in the converse anymore, are they? Yeah, he was good the weekend. But people don't think he's the best keeper in the league anymore. Yeah, this is the point I'm trying to make. He's not in the top five.

1:44:21He's top five. No, that's what I'm saying. People have the conversation. People know Raya's a better keeper. I think people put him in top three still. That's fair. Isn't that... Operated. That's so fair. Who's your top three? Well, I'm going to go Raya. Yeah. I'm going to go I'm going to throw I can't say the one which other keep I'm trying to think of other keepers that are in the league Donnarumma you could put Trafford in there you could put Martinez in there no you wouldn't no you wouldn't put either of them above Alisson Trafford's had an unbelievable season Trafford isn't better than Alisson yet is he here's the answer right this season Trafford's had a fantastic season Suzuki Suzuki's another one as well Suzuki is very good Top 5 Pickford Pickford I haven't even said Pickford yet You're picking Pickford over Alison.

1:45:05Well, no matter what, I've got six keepers. No, you haven't, though, because would you pick Pickford over Alison? Alison there. Would you pick Pickford over Alison? No. Right, so take Pickford over. But I have an agenda. Is Alison better than Martinez? No. What? What? You think Martinez is better than Martinez? No, that's poor, mate. I've already got Alison outside here. I've already got it done. So you think he's top five? I've got Robbie in his top five. I said he's outside the top three. Oh. Okay. That's what I said. Okay, so he's top three. A lot of people wouldn't put me something. You can have Donnarumma, Trafford, and I'll even take Suzuki, and then I'll put Alison fifth.

1:45:38Suzuki and Trafford are better than Alison. Right, just get. Definitely, yes, they are. Alison's better than Trafford. I'm sorry, you actually threw my point. Hashtag overrated then. And Suzuki's better than Trafford. Carry on. Trafford's been class. Liverpool, Vert. Could Kirkus be overrated? No, I don't think so. No one rates him anymore? Unfortunately, Stinky is brought him back down to the baseline. Leeds. Harry Wilson. Noah Rockerfool. I don't mind that. Harry Wilson, mate. Friend of the show, though. Friend of the show, but like, sorry, man. Very rude. I've got... Very rude. He's got a lot of money, though.

1:46:11He should be... But he hasn't started, in fairness to him. But why? They got him to free, so I mean, it's cancelled out by the way. Yeah, but... I've got the right answer. Go on. Calvert-Lewin. What? After what you say? You can't just pick one person and then generalise... I just said he'd get into him this season because he's going to get fed a lot of leads. You said he's going to get 18. No, he is good. He got 14 last year. He's got three already. How good is he? He's a good striker. Top five strikes in the league? Wait, wait, wait. You were saying you wanted him in the England squad? Yeah, you could have.

1:46:39I overrated him. He is in the England squad now. He's actually been called up. So you overrate him? You're arguing against yourself here? Yeah, I am, yeah. Right. That is the most important. But he is in the England squad now. Yeah, because he deserves it. Who else is going to play? What other England strikers would you put in ahead of him? Yeah. What? Welbeck? Really? I think, yeah. How many games in the year are we? Five. When he said he wanted Welbeck. So, by the way, if Cavaloon keeps scoring at this rate, he's going to get 22 goals. Is that how football works, is it? No, but I'm just saying.

1:47:06It's like you're punishing him for being good. I've gone Elvedi, the new centre-ass. Oh, he's good, man. I really don't write him one bit. You didn't even know him last week. Yeah, last week you hadn't even heard of him, mate. So how have you formed an opinion of him in a week? You should have seen him all the way. You've seen one game against Crystal Palace. No, Newcastle as well. Oh, fucking hell. You should have seen the volley tried against Newcastle. He's a centre-ass. He's a professional footballer. To be fair, they would take the piss at that point. He didn't know who he was last week. That's mental.

1:47:36Imagine I did that. You put Calvert-Lewin after a brace against Shane. Crazy, man. Yeah, and you use AI for your list. Actually, I did it after you blanked against... Brentford. Igor. Thiago. Thiago. Thiago. You got picked ahead of Jean-Pedro for the World Cup. Thiago not at three o 'clock. Brighton. I thought that was so hard, Brighton. No, I found it quite easy. It was hard. Really? I put Georgina Rutter. Rutter? Verbruggen What? He's so prone to a howler it's crazy and people overlook it because he has the slow he does have a Bozo gin I think he's good I like every single Bryant player No he's a good goalie but he's got a lot of Bozo gin How would you rate him?

1:48:15What? How would you rate Verbruggen? Where do you put him? I think Verbruggen he's probably at the level he should be at In terms of keepers in the league Keepers in the league He's been in conversations for teams in Europe I think it's more because there's no good keepers Also Bryant I'm going to perform it well. Is he top 10? Top 15 in the league? How do people rate him? Do you know what I mean? Look, I put Strujic and I don't even agree. Strujic. Pascal Strow. Strujic. Also, he's not overrated. I know. None of them are, though. Brian is just all, they're all really good. If anything, a lot of them are underrated.

1:48:48That's true. Like, I've told them to sell Yalkuya at the start of the season and now he's started being flat. And I like Yalkuya. Yeah. Millwall. Mill. they're not in the list are they? Arsenal Maduiki I've run Gabriel based on our list last week you win Maduiki? not that I think I have logic I have logic do you remember what you yeah yeah but mine no no no yours was to sell the logic is that I now think Max Stallman should be ahead of him in the pecking order in terms of game time but you's both really defended Maduiki as a player especially you I think everyone just knows Maduiki's levels he's just a bench player yeah I agree I would say Madweke, but I'll pure agenda and anger.

1:49:29I've still said Yop. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think he should not be a squad player? What? No, I think Max Dowman should now have preference and priority in terms of game time compared to Madweke, and he still doesn't have that. If Madweke is over... So you think Arteta over-akes Madweke? Yeah, probably. And that's... Yeah. Do you... I think he's pretty average, but I think he's... So when I based it on your opinion earlier, you're basing it on another human's opinion. Yeah, but I think... No, there's still people that really rate Maduweki, though. Not just one person who rates... Yeah, there's other people who rate...

1:50:02Whatever we were talking about earlier. Have a living. Yeah. So it's the same preface. I'm basing it on one person when other people think you're basing it on Fulio and Arteta's squad-making decision. Oh, he's coming all guns blazing at you, mate. I am correct on this one. He's actually near on your... Yeah, fair. No, you have to battle. So now you need to say sorry. No, no, no. I don't apologise, especially not to you. That is fair. you do use AI if you listen but my God are you seeing the real Reeve real Reeve is coming out to play is he there are a lot of people that still think Maduwek is way better who in the Arsenal fan base yeah who what do you mean you say it to me all the time you actually say it to me all the time general voices general voices on Twitter I don't know their fucking name at Bruno G145 or some shit mate oh no I'm not involved I just said it I just said just general voices across social media, Arsenal fan base.

1:50:56Do you want at football Bruno G145 or some shit? I don't know. Well, I'm just asking the questions you lot ask me. Do you actually disagree with his opinion? No, I just think Madweck is just like everyone just knows he's a squad player. I'm saying there's still people that think he's better than he probably is, don't they? Do you not agree with that? If you keep going, we might get heated in the title. Do you agree with that? Do you not agree with that? I don't think he's overrated Do you think Damund should be playing more ahead of him He's so young still You don't want to put a lot of I've gone Gabriel Obviously I do rate Gabriel I think he's brilliant but I think a lot of people now think he's the best centre-off in the league and I don't Do you think Saliba's still the best?

1:51:37Yeah I'm sure you argued with me recently when I said Saliba's better than Gabriel and I was getting absolutely barrels I agreed with that Saliba's better than Gabriel We literally did a list The whole conversation was Maybe I said Gabriel's better than The whole conversation was everyone's talking about Gabriel especially last season and now Saliba's become underrated. Yeah. I said Yoko Reyes. That's such an easy cop-out one I think. It's not easy. No one actually rates him anymore. Yeah, I agree. No one rates him. I disagree. Declan Rice. What? Go on. I don't mind it. Put it on. Shut up. You're going to put the hammer down or what?

1:52:12Go on. If you're going to make the point. Yo, Declas, what's going on my G? It's me, Lewis here. Good pal of you. You're not good enough, mate. you horrible human yeah he's going to take that person he's literally I think he's the best midfielder in the league he's not as good as Bruno G I've seen Arsenal fans tweeting actually turning on Bruno saying we should cut our losses and go move fucking Wharton and stuff I'm like your fanbase man honestly every fanbase is like that I'm like you're left at us you're left at us 3-0 loss no but it ends with like 4k likes I'm like what the fuck because it's the biggest online fanbase that's why you get so many likes what?

1:52:48online fanbase it is Arsenal is It's just the biggest baby base base. Online it is. That's why they win all the polls. It's true. So do Toon polls. We win a lot of polls because we just have a dedicated... Arsenal don't have the biggest online fan base. No, on Twitter, genuinely. Do you remember it was always a thing on Match Today and stuff. Anytime there was a vote or something, Arsenal would just dominate it online. No, it's just because you're the more whingiest. Yeah. You're the whingiest most... It's not really relevant, though. No, but that is why... Because your fans are petty enough to be like, to care about...

1:53:19Anyway, Man City, I've got Ruben Diaz. I didn't do my Arsenal one. I was with Mendy. Oh, I don't mind that. Yeah. Right, Man City, I've got Ruben Diaz. Yeah, I've got Donnarumma. I've got Diaz. I've got, um, recall Lewis. Doesn't even play. No one even cares about him anymore. So annoying. Right, thanks for tuning in, guys. Make sure you like, comment, subscribe. We're going to set up a boxing match between you and Lewis. Yeah. Why did you just make it a ticket for all serious?

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