In short
The panel discusses Crystal Palace’s UEFA Europa League demotion (appeal pending), Red Bull ownership/PSR fairness claims, and then pivots to Newcastle’s transfer-window drama around striker Alexander Isak wanting out. They also rank Premier League clubs’ transfer windows, debate Arsenal’s striker/winger needs (including Viktor Gyökeres and new signing discussions), and assess other clubs’ summer business (Liverpool, Man City, Wolves, West Ham, Tottenham, Sunderland, Nottingham Forest).
Guests
Reev, Thea Baker, Tom Garratt, plus Oli (subbing in). Backgrounds mentioned in the episode: Tom and Oli are regular hosts; Lewis is referenced as a Sky Sports correspondent; “Theo Baker” is the show’s name used by the panel (Thea Baker is one of the hosts). No formal guest biographies are provided beyond these roles.
Key claims
Isak was promised Champions League-linked investment and a big contract, but Paul Mitchell refused; Newcastle missed/turned down targets (Eketike, Embolo, De Lapp, etc.), and Liverpool interest allegedly drove up prices. The panel argues FFP/PSR hamstrings Newcastle, forcing sales. Arsenal need a left winger and are debating whether Gyökeres is a risk if he starts slowly.
Notable examples
Crystal Palace demotion to Conference League playoffs; Morgan Gibbs-White contract extension at Nottingham Forest; Luis Suárez “release clause” dispute; Eketike transfer interest; Newcastle’s potential striker targets (Calvert-Lewin, Wisser, “deadline day” talk); Sunderland signing Granit Xhaka.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCelebrating the Lionesses and Chloe Kelly
0:19 to 1:16
Discussion on Chloe Kelly's performance and contribution to the Lionesses.
“I just want to say before we start the show Shout out the Lionesses And Chloe Kelly Clutch as hell Not just in the final Not just in the semi-final But the quarter-final Can I ask about it?”
Crystal Palace's Europa League Situation
1:16 to 2:10
Analysis of Crystal Palace's demotion from the Europa League and its implications.
Conference League Dilemma
2:10 to 3:52
Discussion of the potential outcomes and implications of Crystal Palace's situation.
“for now so UEFA have confirmed it they have confirmed it we've appealed it we should find out by the 11th of August which is in a couple weeks Our season starts the day before that, by the way, in the Community Shield.”
Nottingham Forest and Morgan Gibbs-White
3:52 to 7:18
Debate around Morgan Gibbs-White's contract situation and its impact on Nottingham Forest.
“you get two seasons of European football.”
Isak's Future at Newcastle
7:18 to 9:11
Discussion about Alexander Isak's dissatisfaction and potential exit from Newcastle.
“By the way, number one, forget and afford.”
Transfer Market Updates and Speculations
9:11 to 14:00
Ongoing analysis of transfer rumors and player negotiations in the Premier League.
“You barely ever see your player get interviewed next to the chair, but never mind after all this shit's happened and you're just there just like looking at him.”
Transfer Turmoil: Rejected Moves
14:00 to 15:00
Discussing the transfers that have been turned down and the implications for the club.
“For context, guys, they haven't missed out on anyone.”
Izak's Situation Explained
15:00 to 18:00
Breaking down the timeline of Isak's interest in leaving Newcastle and the club's response.
“He's not going to come in instead of Pope, is he?”
Future Prospects: Sesko vs Izak
18:00 to 19:50
Analyzing potential replacements for Izak and the viability of signing Sesko.
“You've got actually a top three strike in the world, Dan Byrne.”
Financial Fair Play and Club Ambitions
19:50 to 22:20
Discussing the impact of financial fair play on Newcastle's ability to keep players.
“The things he does most on the pitchers, drop deep and run the channels.”
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Newcastle's Struggles in the Transfer Market
22:20 to 24:10
Exploring why Newcastle has faced challenges in signing new players.
“It took Chelsea like eight or nine years when there was no FFP.”
Comparing Transfer Strategies
24:10 to 26:40
Comparing Newcastle's transfer strategy with that of other clubs like Liverpool.
“They're like, oh, I can't wait for you to come to Munich and learn German.”
Arsenal's Future Signings Discussion
26:40 to 28:00
Discussing Arsenal's potential signings and their impact on the team.
“because they no longer have the best Swedish striker in the Premier League.”
Debating Arsenal's Transfer Strategy
28:00 to 30:06
Discussion about the effectiveness of Arsenal's signings and the need for a proper left winger.
“But I don't get why you've not signed a proper left winger.”
Evaluating Player Signings Across Teams
30:06 to 34:25
Analysis of various players signed by teams and their potential impact.
“I think someone like Rodrigo or Liao would have been better.”
Sunderland's Transfer Moves and Implications
34:25 to 36:26
Exploration of Sunderland's approach in the transfer market and fan reactions.
“There's no players from the Nulling team.”
Comparing Teams' Transfer Windows
36:26 to 42:01
A tier list assessment of how well different teams have managed their transfer windows.
“You can't argue with that Oh he's angry They couldn't even fill Their own stadium Heading into the playoffs I wonder if the fans will finally turn up now.”
Evaluating Recent Signings
42:01 to 43:25
Discussion on various player signings and their potential impact.
“I think he's a typical player that you think is good because he's fast or whatever.”
Newcastle's Transfer Situation
43:26 to 45:10
Conversations about Newcastle's transfer strategies and player departures.
“No, but like, I know it's funny for the joke of it, but like, if you use it genuine, like it isn't actually a bad window yet.”
Man United's Squad Changes
45:11 to 46:58
Analysis of Manchester United's current squad and recent changes.
“are actually, no, I think they've had a, have I met and Brenna Cunha?”
Liverpool's Window Review
46:59 to 49:09
Overview of Liverpool's transfer window activities and player movements.
“I feel like they've bought a couple of them.”
Crystal Palace's Quiet Window
49:10 to 51:20
Insights into Crystal Palace's transfer decisions and potential panic buys.
“Proper, like, just like really tall target man who can actually dribble the ball, though.”
Chelsea's Active Transfer Market
51:21 to 52:36
Discussion on Chelsea's transfer activity and player strategies.
“I think more of your business this season will just be keeping people.”
Burnley's New Signings
52:37 to 53:49
Overview of Burnley's player signings and overall transfer strategy.
“But they've got Kyle Walker as a huge signing.”
Brighton's Transfer Approach
53:50 to 55:18
Analysis of Brighton's transfer activities and player acquisitions.
“They've had a better window than Palace.”
Bournemouth's Transfer Outlook
55:19 to 56:01
Discussion on Bournemouth's signing strategy and upcoming needs.
“I know, but there's a reason Sunderland went for Xhaka instead of Henderson when there was a clear one that he could have got.”
Transfer Window Analysis: Team Performances
56:01 to 58:25
Discussion on various Premier League clubs' transfer activities and performances.
“Yeah Trufford Oh Trufford Yeah what's your thoughts?”
Ranking the Transfer Windows
58:26 to 1:00:34
Ranking Premier League clubs based on their transfer windows and player acquisitions.
“Panic buys incoming when they come on, as my money.”
Building Outside the Big Six XI
1:00:35 to 1:02:22
Constructing an XI from players outside the traditional 'Big Six' clubs.
“They kept hold of their best player for 300 grand a week.”
Debate on Player Selections
1:02:23 to 1:10:00
Engaging debate on the player selections for the outside the big six XI.
“I would love to Hell yeah Thanks I actually didn't realise I couldn't do more than three But it's fine Because I didn't anyway Do you know what?”
Discussing Players for a Combined XI
1:10:00 to 1:11:32
The hosts debate which players to include in their ideal combined team from Villa and Newcastle.
“Yeah, one of Van Der Ven or Romero, I reckon.”
Introducing the Free Agent Transfers Segment
1:11:32 to 1:12:05
The hosts prepare to discuss the top 10 best free agent transfers of all time.
“Yeah, shout out Scott who suggested the segment.”
Ranking the Best Free Agent Transfers
1:12:05 to 1:15:08
The hosts present and argue over their top selections for best free agent transfers.
“He wouldn't, I mean, he's not in my top 10.”
Debating Messi and Mbappé's Free Transfers
1:15:08 to 1:18:46
The discussion shifts to the impacts and legacies of Messi and Mbappé's transfers.
“And also, whoever did that fucking TikTok, okay, saying that when we did...”
Final Thoughts on Transfer Rankings
1:18:46 to 1:24:00
The hosts finalize their discussions on the rankings and reflect on player legacies.
“was pretty cool yeah it's cool yeah it's not the coolest free transfers ever it's the best sorry it's been specific I remember when I was doing my research I was like Messi to PSG No way.”
Transfer Fee Discussions: Haaland's Controversy
1:24:00 to 1:25:06
Dive into the debate on Erling Haaland's transfer fee and the confusion around it.
“He went there, scored seven goals, Milan finished 8th, won nothing.”
Ranking Free Transfers: Top Players
1:25:06 to 1:26:18
Exploring the best free transfers in football history, including Goretzka and more.
“But because his contract amount was so high per week, they could afford to pay 50 million pounds in the transfer fee.”
Debating Player Rankings: Personal Preferences
1:26:18 to 1:27:52
The hosts debate their rankings of top free transfers and discuss notable omissions.
“I just don't agree of not having Kambiasso in this list.”
More Rankings and Player Insights
1:27:52 to 1:31:40
Further rankings of players by the hosts, including discussions about their contributions.
“The difference is you've bought a massive box of chocolates, right?”
Controversial Opinions on Messi and Transfer Impact
1:31:40 to 1:33:19
Discussing Lionel Messi's legacy in relation to free transfers and team success.
“What do you think Trent would be in all the lists, would he?”
Final Thoughts and Listener Engagement
1:33:19 to 1:34:24
Closing thoughts on the episode with a call for listener feedback and interaction.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Theo:Welcome to a new episode of Pitchside with me, Reev, Thea Baker and Tom Garratt. If you haven't already hit follow, why not tap that button right now for new episodes every week? And if you want more Pitchside, catch us on YouTube, TikTok and Instagram where you can find us by typing in Pitchside. Let's get into it. England. I don't want to start like that. That's the worst thing I've ever done. Keep that in.
0:27Reev:Keep that in. That's the worst thing I've ever done. Gotta keep that in. I just want to say before we start the show Shout out the Lionesses And Chloe Kelly Clutch as hell Not just in the final Not just in the semi-final But the quarter-final Can I ask about it? She came out in the interview afterwards And saying like Obviously she must have been getting loads of stick But I don't follow women's football so much to know why But like
1:00I'm trying to learn more I'm trying to get educated Everyone wrote her off
1:03Reev:Then Arsenal re-signed her And now she's just like Gone beast She was a city wasn't she And it was like Oh she might never play For England again Did not go well Or something But Arsenal It's just England Lioness is just Arsenal Basically She has an interesting run up But like her pen Was the best out of all them She does nail a ball Yeah Didn't she
1:21Theo:She got the record speed In the last World Cup right Do you remember when she Absolutely I couldn't do it I'd be too scared to do me knee like hopping on you literally cannot do that I literally couldn't
1:33Reev:I don't think you'll be taking it in the Euros I'm just warning it that's an ACL waiting to happen Grace I'm sure she'll listen to that Grace do you know why because I keep thinking Grace Kelly ooh Mika
1:46Theo:what was that what are you doing I keep thinking of Grace Kelly because it's Kelly also do you just no longer care about this show based on what's happened recently because what is going on with your stance on the moment The problem is I have my hamstrings fucked now so I have to sit back here I have no working voice you have no working legs Yeah Damn And Oli's here to replace everything about Tom Yeah Welcome Oli back to the show
2:09Reev:You probably didn't even notice Yeah thanks for having me back No you're very welcome But Oh you're very welcome Oh god okay Sorry Arsenal also won the Arsenal women's also won the Champions League Correct A lot of the lionesses and that's a European trophy for Arsenal thank you very much Oli yep there's something we should address the elephant in the room that's not the phrase Crystal Palace yep the mighty eagles talk to us about the situation because I personally think it's utter bullshit well you and me both you and me both yeah so obviously we've been kicked out of the Europa League is that confirmed?
2:47Reev:for now so UEFA have confirmed it they have confirmed it we've appealed it we should find out by the 11th of August which is in a couple weeks Our season starts the day before that, by the way, in the Community Shield. Oh, yeah, it does. If we get demoted to the Conference League, we'd have to go into the Conference League playoffs as well. So we wouldn't even qualify, even though we would have qualified directly. So hang on a second. So they're not kicking you out of Europe altogether. No, no. It's just demoting you. We've got minimum Conference League. Playoffs. Minimum Conference League playoffs.
3:15Reev:The thing that worries me, though, is we'd go into that tournament as statistical favorites. Yeah, 100%. Which just terrifies me. But also, here's a dilemma for you. You're in the Europa League. Chances are you probably don't win it. Yeah, but Conference League, we could win it. You could win a European League. If you told me today that we'd be in the Conference League and we'd definitely win it, I'd obviously... Which is true. It's the principle, isn't it?
3:39Theo:Yeah, the thing is, it is the principle. And it's also getting into the Europa League a year after they should have been allowed into the Europa League. It's a means to an end to get into the Europa League. But if you think about it, you're probably not going to get Europa League again if you win Europa League this year. So this year, you get two seasons of European football. Potentially. Rather than just one Potentially Only if they win it though Only if they win it But like realistically Who else are they Going to be playing against Like you should win I think Fiorentina are in it But I don't know how good they are Chelsea just won the last one
4:06Reev:Yeah but like Yeah but like Come on There's no Chelsea alternative Or equivalent I should say In this one Yeah I mean also It's probably better for our squad Like we could play Our B team in the conference league And still vaguely compete I get you it is Principle though It is principle It's If this is I wouldn't go as far as Your B team and compete No no but Chelsea can play the B team We can rotate You can rotate. The irony of the whole thing is the final of the Conference League is at RB Leipzig Stadium who are allegedly not in a multi-club ownership according to you, Asia. But we are. We are.
4:36Reev:Red Bulls don't own anyone else. No, they're not linked at all. Why would they be linked? They've just got the same name and the same owner and the same sponsor. How is that loud?
4:46Theo:Mate, it's a long, boring, legal hole. I feel like it's because they're already fairly established in Europe so they've bullied their way legally into staying there. Oh, they big dicked it. Whereas Crystal Palace is their first experience of just like...
4:57Reev:UEFA's president has said on a podcast that UEFA pretend that some clubs don't have the same owner when everyone knows that they do. Yeah. So that's just great. What? How can he say that? Well, I know. It's insane. It's corrupt. I would like to have meetings with this guy. Wait, surely you have. Yeah, no, do you want? To sort this all out, we should set up Theo Baker in a meeting. Yeah, yeah. Well, I always thought about the common sense rule. Yeah, oh, that's fair. That's fair. What's the common sense rule? Pretend he's like the boss. Pretend he's like the boss. You'd be the devil's advocate.
5:29Reev:You'd be angry guy and I'll provide... Wait, am I arguing against Palace? Yeah, I'll argue against Palace. Okay, oh, Palace shouldn't be in. Yeah, they should. Why? Well, common sense prevails. They deserve it. And like, let's be honest, Red Bulls sort of own everyone. So why are you doing one rule for another,
5:45Theo:one rule for one? I'm sold. So does this mean you're going to... Provided everything stays in the same manner that it is, does this mean you now have a rivalry with Nottingham Forest? Probably.
5:57Reev:Yeah. I mean, our one with Brighton is based on hatred. It's not based on geographical proximity. It's only 20 minutes up the road. It's not 20 minutes up the road. It's a bit of a bit of a bit. Depends how fast you're driving. We've got Forest in our first game at Sellers this season as well. Oh, do you actually? That could be quite tasty. It makes me dislike Forest a bit more. Yeah. Because wasn't it like a situation where if there wasn't another team forcing the issue, that you probably would have stayed in the competition. It's because Forrests are like, that's the rules, guys. That's what Steve Parrish has said.
6:28Reev:He also said that Brighton could have done the same thing to get his kicks out of the Conference League, but didn't do that. Because respect to the seagulls. Yeah. Because ultimately, seagulls and eagles. Birds. Are there any one else apart? Yeah, they are both birds. Whereas Forrests and eagles are not birds. No, but eagles do enter the forest a lot of times. That is true. Speaking of Nottingham Forest, I guess we've all seen the Morgan Gibbs-White interview.
6:50Theo:Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, the fact that he's now locked into the club forever and all of his generations that he ever produces will forever remain. Which means he loves the club. He loves the club. Mr.
7:00Reev:Maranakis is the best chairman of all time. By the way, they've whacked him on 300k a week. Yeah. There's also only a one-year extension. Oh, so he's on 300k a week for one year. The original contract is just being extended by one year. So how long is he there for? I don't know. Two years. Probably just another year. Yeah, but then after that, then he gets threatened. I mean, negotiate with again. He's on 500k a week for a year. Yeah, yeah, for another year. Thank you, Mr. Maranakis. How can they afford to do that? They can't. By the way, number one, forget and afford. How can they have a release clause in the contract?
7:33That release clause gets met and then they're like, no. Because that's not how it works.
7:38Reev:Let me cast your minds back to Luis Suarez and Arsenal.
7:41Theo:No, because apparently it was discovered that he had a release clause in his contract illegally. That's what they were arguing about.
7:48Reev:It's a secret release clause. someone it wasn't public what's about having a secret release clause in a contract then if it's not yeah but it's always going to get met somehow maybe they should have bid like a couple million above the release clause or something to be like let's not go exact amount what's like when Arsenal did one pound over Suarez's 40 million pound release clause but that was just so they had to didn't Liverpool have to listen to offers about that or something it wasn't like they had to accept it it was a weird what does that even mean we have to listen to it I've heard you I've heard it it's terrible but I will say though as far as Forrest are concerned like they actually have kept hold of him and that's amazing for them next season yeah because they've already lost a langer I know but is it like is it going to have a bad knock on effect like 300k I think he'll play out of his skin I think he has to play out of his skin it's more just
8:37Theo:it's more just a statement that like you can't just come here and ravage our players can you no because they can't do that for every player like Newcastle are far better off PSR wise than Forrest we couldn't even do that for Isaac. They're doing it for Morgan Gibbs or White. That's not a sustainable way of him in the club. Yeah, but Maranakis is like, he's like, oh yeah, I did forget, yeah.
8:57Reev:You're forgetting Mr. Maranakis here. Actually, I'm sorry, I think I'm going to say it. He'll come for you if you're not aware, mate.
9:04Theo:He's exact, like, he's developed into the exact opposite of what Robin Hood ever was. Can we talk about how mental that interview is? You barely ever see your player get interviewed next to the chair, but never mind after all this shit's happened and you're just there just like looking at him. After their season, he ran down to the pitch and said to Nuno mate you fucking shit yeah also not to
9:23Reev:not to loop it back to Palace but according to UEFA rules he had to put his shares in Forrest in a blind trust it's called so he's like technically not in charge of Forrest towards the end of the season to meet this deadline that we missed at that time he technically wasn't in charge of Forrest according to Forrest's rules but he just ran on the pitch and started having a go at the manager yeah
9:43Reev:but I will say the only we're talking about how much of a dub for Forrest Marinara.
9:52Theo:We've got to make one episode without Theo making a food reference here.
9:55Reev:But Gibbs-Oribe has walked away with such a dub. I know he's staying at Forest. I don't think so. Is it a dub? I think he wanted to go, didn't he? No, but he's on more money a week than if he moved to any other club in world football. Yeah, true. He strikes me as a player, though, who's... He is a friend of the show, so I do know a bit of a show. Yeah, he's a friend of the show. Yeah, friend of the show. But he strikes me as a player who has a bit of ambition where it's like... No, I know, but he can... He's still young. He can do that next year. How old is he? Like 24? 24? 23? I don't know. The move to Tottenham's not always there.
10:25Remember Berahino? What happened to him? Berahino.
10:27Reev:Panis will be beside Berahino. Unfortunately for Oli,
10:31Theo:he is about to play Europa League football though. That is true. He is in a good position.
10:35Reev:And also it's up to Gibbs White. If he has another good season, clubs are still going to want him. It's not like he's not going to leave. How much would someone pay for Gibbs White? 40, 50 mil? He's 25. They just rejected 60. next year but next season yeah but that's terrible wait 60 million pound release scores
10:53Theo:how old is he 27 27 so I mean 26 27 he's still in the region of like 60 million pounds I think I'm biased I think I was expecting I just yeah but he's got another year on him like you never know he needs help like they've lost a longer I don't know who's replacing him now and they can't afford to because they spent all the money on fucking Gibbs White I mean I don't know if this is long term the best choice by them
11:16Reev:but we said that about Forrest when they were buying about 1 ,000 players in the transfer window and it actually had paid off. So they are doing something right. He sort of does know what he's doing.
11:24Theo:It's a bit mental. Yeah, keeping their most influential player, I think it's a good... You argued the same thing about keeping Izak. And now you're moaning... Fuck him.
11:33Reev:It's also the Chelsea way of doing it. It's paid off for them as well. Chelsea are a lot more richer and a lot more sneaky. Forest bought a million players and they got Europe. Chelsea bought a million players and won the Club World Cup. so the trick is to buy a million players illegally yes sell Isaac buy 20 players
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11:52Theo:I said this to him but he doesn't want to do that oh no don't worry
11:56Reev:you thought about it it's time to dress in the other elephant in the room I'm so happy Tom's not here for the show I'm so happy he would have been unbearable well he will be back and it'll be the same thing we talk about next week nah before we move on you actually wanted Tom here because actually he was wrong about Gibbs White. So it's all he's about. Yeah, it cancels itself out. It cancels itself out. We shake hands and we stop. Yeah. So, Lewis. Yes? Isaac looks like he actually is going. Yeah, fucking hope he is. He's not that good. Oh, that is your hero. Are you the most fickle football fan?
12:33Theo:I've actually got more of a question to ask you. I saw on my TikTok at FYP a little video that came up that said, if we lose to Arsenal, I'm never coming back to the show so why are you even here? Next season. Right, right. You're talking about the pre-season? Yeah, the one that he said didn't matter when he was sat here and then as soon as he went to TikTok No, no, no. We were playing our youth, man. Why are you fuck? No, I'm a notoriously old player the Arsenal player. The Izak situation is a sticky sausage. From your personal point of view explain it with the unbiased head. So I, do you know what?
13:14I was happily in the gym and then I looked at my phone and saw that it was like 10 messages in the pitch side chat, which is never normally good. My thought always goes to another Tom video, but I opened it and it was even worse. I can't, I'm fucking, part of me's like, I understand, but also part of me's like, fuck you. So like, you haven't actually explained anything there. So the thing is right, Isak was promised in January, along with the rest of the players, if you get Champions League money, football this season, we're going to go big in the transfer market. and he was also promised a big contract.
13:43Paul Mitchell's came in and said, actually, you're already on a decent contract. We're not going to give you that. That pissed off Isaac. And then also what I think's happened is we've got, what, a few weeks now into the window. We've missed out on like seven targets and Isaac's like, well, fuck this. Okay, well, let me walk you through it, Liz.
13:59Theo:No, no, missed out is an interesting turn of phrase. Surely it's been turned down. No, no. That's openly rejected.
14:07Reev:For context, guys, they haven't missed out on anyone. Yeah, we are. These are the people who've actually turned down movies news cards. It's not even true. Turned down. They didn't want to go. This is not correct. They didn't want to go. So, obviously, Eketike. That one's correct. Emblemo. That's correct. Liam DeLapp. Correct. Joanne Garcia. Bullshit. That's absolute bullshit. Jarrod Kwanza. Bullshit. That's correct. That is bullshit. Zabane. Bullshit. Gehi. At the start of last season, yes. Not this window. We haven't moved for him yet. We haven't moved for him. He said no. yeah
14:40Theo:no but not in this window this is about this window no no it doesn't say this window it says who turned D-Monday nope incorrect James Trafford this one's interesting no just say it's correct no no no because Keith Downey who's our correspondent for Sky Sports he said and I've never heard of this before basically Man City had a clause in the contract where if a team put a bid in for Trafford they could match it and Trafford has no choice but to choose Man City and I know that sounds like it's me trying to make up lies but that's why but we also should have acted earlier because we sat wanking off fucking not bidding higher for him and then we eventually waited for man city to be interested to then up the bid which is completely pointless but you are getting Aaron Ramsdale yeah you that's actually that'd be good you wanted him as well this our fan base hasn't reacted great to this i think this is brilliant yeah for years now and he's friend of the show and obviously Matthias Cunha as well yeah fuck it is he just purchased first squad rotation though.
15:35He's loaned an option to buy. He's going to be number one. He's not going to come in instead of Pope, is he? We start Pope and then he can earn his win, essentially. Like he did with Leno and then he just took the number one spot after two weeks. I think Pope's going to
15:49Reev:fall off the season. I'm not sure. He's looking dodgy against you. Well, let me talk you through the actual timeline of the Izak thing because you didn't do a very good explanation. Okay, so Izak had informed Newcastle. He wanted to explore his options. You missed out the bit where Liverpool tapped him up. Okay. Oh, but it's everyone. It's fucking illegal! It's not. Isak also didn't travel to the squad to Singapore. Obviously, you told us he had a thigh injury. Guys, he's injured. The club's still sticking to that story, by the way. He's injured. All the players...
16:20Theo:He returned with a perfect healthy scan, so how's that look? No, he is injured. He just... Liverpool then showed
16:27Reev:a bit of interest in Isak before actually going after your other striker, Ekati, K, 79 million. But they are still interested in Izak. They actually might get both. Who you said at the time, because he did exist,
16:40Theo:Izak wasn't going. And then obviously he wants to go anyway. But according to Lewis, they just drove up the price of Ekati. Yeah. No, no, no. This is what we've done. They paid 5 million more. This is what we've done. So we forced them to bid higher for Ekati, K. So they signed him at a premium. And then we used that signing to justify charging more for Izak. It's 7D checks.
16:58Reev:But is 79 million for Ekati, K,
17:01Theo:really that much of an overpay? No. That's inclusive of Liverpool doing well, isn't it? Because it's only 69 flat. Oh, and then it's... It's 10 mil extra if... Guys, I actually hear them.
17:11Reev:Eddie Howell came out and said that Izak's future is actually out of Eddie Howell's hands. Yeah. It's not ideal for you. My genuine opinion, honestly, I've actually changed and I'm like, I don't want them there now. I'm like, if you don't want to be here...
17:26Theo:See, I know what you're doing here because you want to see Liverpool sign him, then play 4-4-2, with Izak and Eckertick up front so you can change the clip of you saying... My logic is, right, he's only going to be fucking spitting his dummy out and whatever, just leave them. Give us 150 million. You are pathetic. What was wrong? If he doesn't want to be there...
17:50Reev:He might still stay. He actually might stay. And then you're going to eat up all your words. I think he will stay. Are you going to eat all your words if he stays and says you actually love him again? No, by the way, Isaac's always been very good but he's never taken to the fans the same way like Bruno has and I always and for that reason I always knew Isaac Bruno no we love Isaac but Bruno's very outwardly loves the fans and like and same with the rest of the players Isaac's always never really vocalised it too much because he has always eyed this next move on but also look Isaac has literally been a god in Newcastle for the past couple years he's been great yeah he's not like you're putting him he's not on a pedestal above like the Bruno like Bruno I put like he's not on a pedestal above Dan Byrne, the long staff.
18:30Is Bruno number one for you?
18:31Theo:Is that why? Bruno number one. Dan Byrne, long staff, Shah. You've got actually
18:35Reev:a top three strike in the world, Dan Byrne. Can I tell you, the people who are gods
18:39Theo:are... The same long staff that's now at Leeds. The people who are gods are Fabian Shah, a player who was signed for three million and was benched by Bruce and has been a massive pivotal player. Isaac is the headline player, but he was always going to leave. There would not be this reaction
18:53Reev:if Fabian Shah left Newcastle United. But, yeah, obviously there wouldn't be. That's not the point, though. But you're saying he's a god No he's not a god He's one of our best players He's not a god At Newcastle He isn't a god You He isn't He was two weeks ago When you said he was staying I mean I don't get me wrong We love Isaac But if he doesn't want to be there Then fuck off Also Surely like 140 mil Is just better for Newcastle I'll take the money I don't think any player's worth that Money Sesko Wisser We'll get a defender Rafford Rafford Rafford See the problem
19:30Theo:Lewis couldn't understand When we spoke about this Last week is He thought In order for Izek to leave You have to replace him With one player That's just as good as him To fill that gap Don't do that Whereas what happens When you get a lot of money You can buy multiple players Sesco's better Hang on a sec Hang on a sec You think Sesco's better than Izek He could be He's not What did you say What did you say About Sesco When Arsenal were linked with him By the way Man United are going for Watkins They can't afford Sesco Sesco we actually wanted Sesko before Iza like he was always our main target but we couldn't yeah you are I swear like this is all facts what I'm saying like he was our mid he's a different player but Sesko has all the attributes to be good he's tall strong he can also run the channels he said he was shit when he was looping the Arsenal but can he drift out wide and draw past a few players he does that he's not a dribblest per se but he runs the channels he's a tall strong guy but he runs the channels he drops in deep he links up play see a lot of him play I've been looking into him loads Watch the tapes, mate.
20:27He's actually... In the Euros. His stats for dropping...
20:30Theo:The things he does most on the pitchers, drop deep and run the channels. So now that obviously Izak's on his way out and you're going to get Sesco, rank Haaland, Izak and Sesco as a one, two, three. Probably score Sesco, Haaland, Izak. I think that's fair.
20:44Reev:Yeah, yeah. The first time I came on this podcast, you said you wanted Newcastle to sell Izak in like November of last year. Yeah, it was against Chelsea, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. You've got your wish. You should be buzzing. Do you think you're too emotional? No, all jokes aside, all jokes aside like ideally I'd love Isak to want to stay and then play for us and have a great season but if he doesn't want to be there I don't want him there it's just going to the strongest thing we have is like the like behind the scenes come out it genuinely is so I'm like if you're going to fucking ruin that then go leave 150 mil and we'll be better off without you with that money I've got a question though could you not argue that Sesco would just do the same thing Isak is currently doing in a few years time possibly but we could have to just come to that later on are you not sort of realising now that actually Newcastle aren't as big as you think and you think maybe he's actually outgrow Newcastle in two years.
21:29Again, this isn't, the issue that fundamentally this comes down to is fair play. Financial fair play. The reason he's leaving is because we can't afford to up his contract to what we've said we would because we just couldn't afford it and we can't sign players to match his ambitions. That ultimately all comes down to FFP. So it's always in this endless circle of us having to sell up. Ultimately, we are growing slowly.
21:50Reev:But you're a Champions League football club. Yeah, but that doesn't matter because us being all spent, is about the money that we bring in. At the moment, we don't bring in enough to pay him. If you were a bigger club, he wouldn't mind stinking on that wage because he's playing Champions League football so he could win Champions League. No, he wants to win the Champions League. That's his thing. So he wants us to match his ambitions but we can't afford to match his ambitions. He wants to win the Champions League, not just play in it. That's what I just said. For us to be able to win the Champions League, we have to be able to spend more.
22:18Reev:But that takes time. Even before FFP, that takes time. It took Chelsea like eight or nine years when there was no FFP. and they can come on if we had no FFP now and we would have kept if we can keep Ezak and go big out for all these players pay over the odds a little bit like we would be far further along the road to a position where he would have stayed he wanted to sign a new contract poor Anthony in January he was down to sign a new contract he's joined
22:40Theo:his Swedish mate up north and now he's
22:42Reev:fucking off one of the things I don't get is like I know Newcastle talk about PSR a lot but I'm like how like a lot of other teams managed to sign quite a lot of players but I feel like Newcastle are just permanently in PSR issues I don't really understand why. Well, number one, like our fucking income is absolutely shit. Like we don't have the situations that, well, Mike actually wasn't really the savvy businessman that, you know, he'd like to think he is. There was no real commercial to the club. There was no money coming in. And in terms of like assets to sell, there was no good players to sell to raise those funds.
23:15And also, it literally spunked it all straight away on Bruno, Tonali, Izak. Great signings. Yeah, great signings. We couldn't spend for two seasons after that because we were so I mean sell sell sell do you not think it's quite hard
23:27Reev:when you're a one club a one city club like do you think it's quite hard to grow your fan base to get more income no I think it's just that's just like like growing overseas like that's why we're in Singapore like that just comes over years but we shouldn't be expected to wait 5-10 years to like we should just be able to spend the money we have why don't you just do like Forrest and Chelsea and all that but it's definitely in your interest to fucking have us hamstrung is that a word yeah yeah that is a word it's definitely in your interest to do that because we're now oh yeah Harvey Barnes
23:56Theo:Libby Mento yeah do you remember those players that you're just ignoring 40 million no they don't that's what I'm saying but we spent out big because we had to ultimately and then we haven't been able to spend for two and a half seasons after that and now we've had to sell sell sell and now we're trying to compete with the bigger teams and we can't really compete financially it's not beast mode
24:20Reev:you should look at Liverpool ironically actually Sol Coutinho Rebuilt their team Won everything That's what I'm saying Get them gone It's fine Even Villa
24:28Theo:Even Villa have done it With the Yeah yeah But you know like Liverpool's transfer
24:31Reev:I know we touched on it last week But Liverpool's transfer Is insane How much money they're spending It is mental Like to get Eketika And then also If they get Ezek That's bonkers That's just greedy
24:42Theo:It'd be 400 million pounds By the way You know They're pretty much Even in fair play Now they've got those Diaz By the way If they get Ezek For about 120 Another 120 Plus he just Steve Deirdre's Instagram comment
24:53Reev:when you go and buy Munich. They're like, oh, I can't wait for you to come to Munich and learn German. He's replied with bonjour. Liverpool, yeah. So their spend is actually quite even now they've sold in because when you sell, that money acts as bulk, but they've bought in installments. So they're actually quite even. Right. They haven't even went up. They're not even fucked. Why can't you buy players in installments? We can, but we don't have enough headroom to go and fucking spend two... You will if you sell either. three 100 million sign-ins, essentially.
25:22Theo:It's more just attractiveness, isn't it, rather than finances? No one wants to go there. Yeah, but normally you can offset the attractiveness with money, can't you? That's true. Yeah, that is true. So that would be our strength if we were able to use it. Yeah. And don't even have that. No, but like, all jokes aside, like, I'd rather him just leave and get the money and like, strengthen the crowd because we need depth, otherwise we're so fucked and I have a really bad feeling for the season at the moment. Who do you think is going to be your starting striker in August? I've said it from the start.
25:50Calvert-Lewin. I genuinely... No, I promise you, I know what Newcastle are like. We're going to get Calvert-Lewin on deadline day. I'm not even joking. I said it before this EZAC rumours were even happening. Now, you'll get Wisser. You'll at least get Wisser. I don't think they won. They won 50 million. We'll ignore that. He's got one season there. But that's how they do their model, isn't it? They can fuck off and not spend 50 million on a one-year contract. I guarantee you, I guarantee you, as soon as he signs...
26:17Reev:Calvert-Lewis? He has one year in his contract. He's got like 20 non-penalty goals last year. We can sign him on a pre-contract in January for free. I guarantee you as soon as he signs
26:25Theo:to Newcastle for£50 million in eight days' time you'll go, that's a great fucking bit of business. I'm sorry, if we were hackling over£7 million up with Trafford and then spend £50 million on Whistle and my head it's going to explode again. Well, look, moving on from Newcastle. Yeah, we can move on because they no longer have the best Swedish striker in the Premier League. No, they don't. He's shit, by the way. I have an unpopular opinion about this guy. I don't think he breaks double digits. Shut up, man. I actually really think you're in for a bit of a bit. On service alone, come on, man. I feel like yous have set him up for a fall.
27:00He's got 54 goals in 54. We're, of course, talking about Jokoraz. Shall we bring up Nunes' stats in that league? Nunes' stats in that league.
27:08Theo:Did Nunes not break 10 goals in his first season? I don't know. I'm pretty sure he did yeah he probably did and even that well what's a failed season for him I think anything below 15 is a failed season no you already said he's not going to make double digits I don't think he'll make double digits but I think Nunes got 15 goals first season he got 9 in the prem though ah there you go damn only played 29 games all knowledge guys do you think
27:33Reev:maybe this is a stupid question so do you think he'll start over Havertz like non-stop up front wait Havertz offers a lot to a hospital I'll die on that hill Havertz played well in pre-season yeah against Newcastle. And also, he's looking big and bulky. No, I agree. He's also looking big and bulky.
27:48Theo:I've seen, mate. What? I'd like to think so. I think that he will start. He has to start. He's too expensive. Certainly in the manner that we're like approaching games as well, it feels like we're going to play with an out-and-out number nine now.
28:02Reev:But I don't get why you've not signed a proper left winger.
28:05Theo:I think by the way, he's wearing...
28:07Reev:You've got to be careful. But Eze's not a proper left winger. He's not. I know he's not a proper left winger. but you need a proper left winger I worry that if Eze goes to Arsenal Arsenal will be like why have we signed this guy I really think that could happen this is my issue it's like the Madweke signing I think it's a good signing we need depth right I know he's a right winger we need depth for Saka but we got Max Dalman now he's going to start balling out hard guys we're keeping Waniere really good player Madweke can play on the left I'm telling you now he can play on the left Arteta is about to do some craziness this season with different players when's he ever done that though realistically he did it at Chelsea at the end of the season he has howler after howler in the transfer market true that's the blueprint what what about him though that wasn't Arteta's do it Arteta is infamously howler I hate this argument of these footballers can only play on one side yeah yeah
29:04Theo:Gareth Bale went from left back
29:05Reev:to right wing these are like multi-talented footballers they can play some players can do it and if they coach correctly I don't have confidence in Arteta to be able to do that effectively he hasn't if you look at Arteta's coach it's actually he's actually like these patterns of play are absolutely brilliant look which players has he improved it's sacre inverting no no no yeah absolutely these players are capable but like he's not good at identifying players who are capable to do this no no no but these are I don't think you understand I don't think you understand how good footballers are
29:34Theo:at football Marina went from being a number 6 to a number 9 because he actually understands the game by the way. What a finish that was. I understand they're good at football. I understand that. But is Manuweke going to take you to challenge Liverpool this season? It's a very flat signing for what yous are.
29:52Reev:So, improve your first team. You need to improve your first team. They also need depth. You get depth by improving your first team and moving down the players who are starting. Not if you've got Bakayo Saka at right wing. You can't really improve him. But you need someone on the left, man. I don't know what we're doing. You do need someone on the left. I think someone like Rodrigo or Liao would have been better. Well, yeah, I've read their interest. But again, apparently Arsenal are looking to get a 7-7 and it is SA. I could definitely see it happening. I could definitely see it happening. But even Trossard's capable.
30:22No, but he's not. Again, Trossard is the player that you want as a little bit of depth. He's not the starting player.
30:28Theo:No, I agree. But you're talking about like from the selections that we have, obviously if it's alongside Saka and Yikarez, I think most people fill in and do a job then. I don't think you're... We were having this argument yesterday, actually. I actually think you're attacking from three and your depth there isn't actually that strong comparing it to the other teams that are around there. I'd even put Yous behind us if we keep Yous behind us. Obviously, without Yous, no. But I don't think it's as strong as Yous think. No, that's our weakest part of the pitch, yeah. That's why we need depth. Yeah, but if you go and get a Maduwe kick, you'll create an left winger, then it changes a lot.
31:03Yeah. I don't think depth's the... You keep saying depth. I'm like, that's... Okay, I understand depth for the right wing, but like, we need to get, let's sell Trotter to get someone in. Go up second,
31:12Reev:you talk about improving the first team, Zub and Mendy's improved the first team. Yeah. Norgard actually has improved the first time if you want him. He won't start every game, but he's great depth. Kepa. Kepa. He had a good season with Bournemouth. He didn't... No, that's fine. He's not really going to impact your season, so like, whatever, he's not really going to play. Jokeres as well. We needed a number nine. We've got one of the most informed number nines in Europe. It's annoying you just didn't go for Izak, isn't it, really? If you knew he was available. Yeah, no, it is. But that's the way that it goes.
31:44How do you feel about that? Do you not feel like you should have maybe tabled a quick bid before you signed off this Yookeres thing? It's too late. It was too late.
31:51Reev:If you could have quickly just put in 130 mil. Also, can you imagine how fucking rude that would be when you don't get Izak and you end out on Yookeres as well? You miss out on both. Oh, of course. Yeah.
31:59Theo:And the fact that he's, realistically, if we wanted Izak, that's, what, 35 % of the price? Yeah, double it. So provided he does, you know, I don't know, three quarters as well as Isak this season, that's better value for money than Bayern. I am very interested in seeing him. It just feels like a lot of strikers who come into the Premier League these days never like fly really. It's like they come in for big money, but they never actually hit the ground running.
32:27Reev:I think all the noise around him is like pretty positive in that he's obviously desperate to A, play for Arsenal. There's always a bit of noise and excitement.
32:35Theo:Did you see the Van der Vaart comment? What did he say? He said... He's notoriously... He's a hater. Yeah, he just hates him. No, no. It's quite the opposite. He said, in terms of attribute for attribute, I think he's better than Erling Haaland. Oh, wow. He's like a better version of Erling Haaland.
32:51Reev:It's not hard to be better than him. That's a big claim. But it's like what we said earlier about the Izak thing. Like, if you're Arsenal, would you rather have like Maduweke, Jokreis and a left winger or just Izak? Yeah, look. I think you take just Izak. I think you take three players. He's a real footballer. A better version of Erling Haaland. that is a pretty this is the thing I worry about it's like it's setting up for a follow it's Raphael van der Vart mate yeah it was before he says a lot of shit all the time the main thing I worry about is if he say he has a slow start to the season and I'm curious what you think here because there's been so much stuff around all we need is a striker all we need is a striker and you've got one what happens if he has a slow start of the season are you just going to go into like
33:27Theo:I think it's contextually important no I haven't I think if he starts slow but the team's playing well you just carry on with him yeah if that makes sense
33:36Reev:and also Ultimately, right, a lot of big money signings, a lot of them, I should say the majority of them, you have to let them settle in. A lot of them don't click instantly.
33:45Theo:Oh, mate, if he gets a goal in the first game, he could be on for an absolute belt of a season. But the longer that goes on, it has a bit of a drought.
33:53Reev:But do you remember Darwin Nunes at the Community Shield 2022 when he bagged off the bench and Haaland missed an open goal? And everyone said Nunes was better than Haaland. Oh, I remember that, yeah. And people like to say, now that never happened. Yeah, and everyone's like, oh, Haaland's not going to be able to hack it. And then he broke the goal square record. Well, I will say it's been a very active transfer window, not just for the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, not Newcastle, but Sunderland. Granit Xhaka.
34:13Theo:That is weird. The fact that he requested them as well. He was like, I only want to go to Sunderland. It's mental. But he could have gone to you. You would have taken Granit Xhaka. No, I wouldn't have taken Granit Xhaka. Why would I have taken Xhaka? Borderline invincible, mate. Why would I be taking Xhaka? There's no players from the Nulling team. Just because I thought you played for Arsenal in 2003.
34:38Reev:That's a good sign. That's such a good Premier League signing. Premier League experience, leader in the Jessing room. That's what they were missing, wasn't it? It's pretty peak for Eric Ten Hag, who now manages Bayer Leverkusen, that Granit Xhaka, who's one of the most important players, has demanded a move to Sunderland rather than playing Bayer Leverkusen. It's funny though, isn't it, Lou? Because the other week you said Sunderland weren't signing enough Premier League experience. It's good that they're listening to me. Ideally, Sunderland's still up in like 17. So we have the derby.
35:04Theo:We know people listen to the show because Liverpool are going to do the 4-4-2. That's true. All football listeners. I'm really torn about something because as hilarious as it would be to watch them go down, if they steal, fair enough. They're spending$140 million. I agree, man. If any team that's coming up manages to stay in the Premier League, fair fucking play. Just applaud them. It doesn't matter how they do it. I totally feel like taking the...
35:29Reev:Was that serious?
35:30Theo:No, I was being serious. I think one of the boys they are. What were you thinking to be sarcastic about? You confused me. No, like, do you know what? I just don't want the Derby to become like Liverpool-Everton where it's just like, you know what I mean? We used to be equally as shit. That Tarkovsky equaliser was one of the most iconic for Edmonton ever. Like, literally limbs for Edmonton. It's only good for Everton. We're the Liverpool in that scenario. You know what I mean? Like, we win, it's Sunderland. We lose, it's like, fuck, it's Sunderland. Like, for them, it's like, they have easy excuses.
36:00Theo:Yeah, but it's for the fans, isn't it? Trust me I love it Trust me I love it But like Sunderland are a bigger club Than Newcastle though Ultimately That's not relevant Why was it that relevant It was like five years ago
36:13Reev:For the viewers and listeners Right now Will Who's a mackham Has just typed into Google Who has more league titles Newcastle or Sunderland Sunderland have six Newcastle have four Sunderland are a bigger club Than Newcastle Cool man Oh he's angry You can't argue with that Oh he's angry They couldn't even fill Their own stadium Heading into the playoffs I wonder if the fans will finally turn up now. They've went missing for the last four years. That's a crazy thing to say is the Newcastle fan. They went missing. Obviously, the transfer window closes two weeks after the Premier League starts. So there could be a...
36:44Reev:We've got a long, long time to go in the transfer window. Plenty of time. Where are you looking? Who's had the best transfer window so far? Is it Newcastle? Liverpool. Definitely not Newcastle. Is it Liverpool?
36:51Theo:It's Liverpool. Yeah. And then who? They're terrifying. Man City, probably. Are Arsenal up there? Who have Man City signed? They've got Cherky. Yeah. Yeah, maybe now with Jokeres it'd be Arsenal in second, I suppose. Well, let's do the tier list. We've got winning the window.
37:06Reev:Low-key masterclass. Just a couple of signings away. Bare minimum. Panic buys incoming. I think a lot of people are going to be in that category. Oh, look at that. Will, what the fuck's going on with you recently? Starting things off with Wolves. They've got Fer Lopez. Yeah. They've got Strand Larson on... He was on a loan to buy, wasn't he? Then they got in. Yeah, loan to buy. And John Arias from Fluminense. Obviously, we all know him. They haven't lost it. Problem is they're outgoing. They've lost Kuna and Ait Norik.
37:32Theo:Two of their most influential players, if not the most. I think bare minimum, because I don't think they'll do any panic buys. I think they'll just sit and relax. Wait, but really? And skip by.
37:42Reev:They've lost two of their biggest players. Yeah, I don't think that they'll... They did make 100 million pounds. They'll wait until January, don't they? Yeah, they probably will just wait. I don't think they've got that much money to spend. I think they're happy to go out and see how they get on this season. But how do they not have much money to spend when they've earned 100 million off two players? I think they needed to sell them they needed them for PSR reasons I think so I might be wrong I doubt they'll go crazy for the rest of the window I would put Pennywise they're probably comfortable enough to think that they'll steer ahead of the three promoted teams yeah or successful teams of Wolves
38:11Theo:are staying up and they'll probably stay up I think they probably could survive off their squad without getting anyone and if not based on their Premier League experience
38:20Reev:alright well West Ham got Kyle Walker-Peters by the way where's the edit it wasn't that good of a call where is the edit I called it last year Walker Peters to West Ham generational that was generational that's twice I've done that now Dan Byrne that's not my name they've got Carl Walker Peters Tadevo that was a loan that was a loan again Daniel Cummings from Celtic obviously and Elhaj Duf not that one he's actually really good he's a wing back he played against England for Senegal and he was unreal against Saka 20 million by the way Kudus is so fucking rude how he's been going on. When he's like, look in the house.
39:00You'll find Tottenham. I'm like, you literally would just play for West Ham, man.
39:03Reev:I think just for him being so disrespectful to West Ham, that's got to move them down. He's actually a disgrace. They've also let go of so many players. They've released like... Chris Weld, Fabianski, Souffaou's gone. Yeah. I thought he was still putting in a shift. Danny Yings. Zouma, I thought he even played for them anymore. He had to go a long time ago. Well, it's one per second. He can't really get it. Yeah, one per second's class at Rundberg. I think that's West Ham may always panic buy. They'll panic buy another striker. Yeah, they definitely need a striker. Paul Croc's been playing in the summer series.
39:32Reev:Yeah, but he can't stay fit. They'll probably get Antonio back because Antonio's like left, but then also... No, no, there's beef going on there. Yeah, Antonio's like, because basically West Ham have been paying for all his treatment and Antonio's now demanding like a bigger contract and bigger wage. Oh, even though he's not been playing. Yeah, so it's a bit awkward, I think, between the owners and Antonio. They wanted Wilson, didn't they? I'm sure Wilson turned up. That's so West Ham. Yeah. That is the most West Ham signing ever. It is, it is. Probably a good signing. Why Bowen is still there, man.
40:01Reev:He's Mr. West Ham. Obviously, I know Danny Dyer, rumours are if Bowen leaves Danny Dyer, we'll just... He'll do a Mr. Maranakis. Yeah. Which Danny Dyer are we talking about? Both. Both. But he's too good for that club. But what would it take to a game out of West Ham? It would cost so much money.
40:19Theo:Is that true? I mean, he's a... Yes. What do you mean? He could play him for a top 16. Yeah, I agree. but no one would ever pay the money I kind of respect a player who is like loyal to the club I love his club I'm going to sit here now because if he goes they could get fucking in a relegation battle genuinely it's got like Zaha Palace vibes
40:39Reev:with Bowen at West Ham so I respect it's very rare now for players to actually care about the club like that I do agree moving on to Tottenham then they've got Danso he's very well good this Vuscovic guy he played in pre-season and everyone was raving about him centre back Matthias Tell obviously they bought him after the loan Kudus good signing and then Takai but they've got rid of Reguilor Hoiberg I didn't realise Hoiberg they've got rid of some dead dead wood to be fair it's an alright I think that's just a couple signs I agree on the road do you think Solanke's going to deliver this season if he stays injury free I think so I don't think he'll ever break like crazy numbers but he'll be how many goals I don't know I can't remember if he's broken up I don't know if he's already I think he's already Broke it before I don't think he'll do it again He's like upgradeable But he's not
41:30Theo:How many goals
41:31Reev:Yeah but he's definitely
41:32Theo:Already done it before He's kind of Just reliable Yeah that's what I mean I think he'll be a steady 15 goals 16 Go on I reckon he gets I reckon he gets Oh no I reckon he gets 20 this year I reckon he clicks into here Yeah 20 for Spurs We got 19 for Bournemouth It was a wow That made
41:50Reev:Two years ago Yeah Long time Ages Long time with football. Then we've got next team is Sunderland. I think this is a low-key masterclass. A Dinger, I think, is a great sign. Who he thinks is shit, by the way. Obviously, you haven't watched him. I saw the comments about that. Dinger's a great signing. Yeah, he's a brilliant sign. I don't like him. He's not a lot. I don't know what. I think he's a typical player that you think is good because he's fast or whatever. But if you watch him, he's actually shit. I promise he's shit. I don't know about that. He's just quick. He's not quick. They spent 20 mil on everyone.
42:22Reev:They have really improved that team. Talbi, Mandava, Sadiq, Diara I don't know any of these players Exactly, how's it in Masterclass? You're just seeing names from different leagues And price tags And you're saying it's Masterclass This isn't the problem Diara, the player, Xhaka Midfield is good And Xhaka Xhaka's a great signing I think it's Loki I think it's Loki Masterclass That's a Loki Masterclass By definition it's Loki It's not Masterclass Yeah, it is Loki It's the definition of Loki Masterclass Right, Forrest They've not signed anyone But they've got Eagle Jesus they're winning the window they've got a little they've got here we go on Dan and Doy yesterday from I can't remember who it's from he's made me really good that's for like 40 mil they've got rid of Alanga that's a big loss for them panic they've got a contemporary Europe they're losing I know they signed a million players a few years ago but their squad is but they kept holding more than Gibbs White that's the boss he's right to stay the win in the window their players aren't a little to leave they win you think they're panicked by though oh they can't actually they've spent all the money on Gibbs White is it bare minimum just a couple signings away I think bare minimum bare minimum bare minimum Newcastle United can I be genuine here I and this is going to sound silly but I think it is just a couple signs away because
43:36Theo:surely it's let's all laugh at Newcastle
43:38Reev:no no no because imagine who's Isaac you've lost Lloyd Kelly that's big Sean Longstaff no no because we can all laugh about we can all laugh at like how the transfer windows went but it's like that's like the targets we haven't got if you look at actual business that we've done Isaac if he does go we're getting a massive amount of money for him we've signed Alanga who is a brilliant signing and we are genuinely just a couple signs away from them if we sign Sesco and Wissa and Isaac goes all of a sudden it's not fine you still need more you still need more that's bad business it's not as bad as user making it is it's not there at all talk to me about Cordero it's not as bad at all he's a great youth young talent going out on loan we've actually got we got a guy from Asia as well he's like a really good talent.
44:21Who? I can't remember. No, but like, I know it's funny for the joke of it, but like, if you use it genuine, like it isn't actually a bad window yet.
44:30Theo:You're not just a couple signings away, are you? Your minimum panic buy is incoming. There's going to be some serious panic buy. I don't think we'll know because we don't panic buy. We've never panicked buy. I think you will. I think you've seen so far, like, we've had, be it wrongly maybe, had our budget for each player and we've been very strict to each one. Like, we're not panicking at all. Do you not think you individually panicking about the entire club is probably reflective? That's why I'm not employed. If I was in charge of the transfers, then yes, put it in fucking down below. But we are only a couple of signs away from this being a good window and the windows, like we still have a month left.
45:06Reev:Anyway, moving on. I really don't think about it. I want to say Man United are actually, no, I think they've had a,
45:13Theo:have I met and Brenna Cunha?
45:15Reev:I think they've also still got a lot of, no, they've got rid of Ericsson, Evans, Lindelof Rashford's gone Rashford's gone out on loan You're saying that as a positive Rashford was When Man United are getting rid of a player To Barcelona His time was done at Man United I think for both of them They needed to move on Like with Villa You saw him starting to do a bit He needs to get out of Man United And start playing his football again I think it's a good thing for both clubs
45:37Theo:Lou's still saying he's a good player No he is a good player But I just don't think it's working there again I know but that's because That's bad handling from the club He's not sold He's on loan I know but if you have a player Leaving your club When you're in that position You need quality to Barcelona. You've lost a really good player then, haven't you? Barcelona won him. So I find that confusing that the Velletic get that bad.
45:57Reev:But sometimes it just doesn't work at your current club and you need to move on and find something else. They are good purchasers though. Could you own in Bremont? Yeah, they're ridiculous. They still need like one midfielder. They're going to get Watkins, the thing in Watkins.
46:09Theo:Maybe it's just a couple signings away. Or just Mainu to hold down that position. I think just a couple signings away. I think you're right. Yeah, a couple signings away.
46:17Reev:Next up we have City. Right. Reindeers. Yeah. He's great. Ait Nuri. Bettinelli. He's replacing Scott Carson. He's about to have the best job in world football. Cherky. Reindeers is better than him.
46:36Theo:They're part of the same team now, though.
46:38Reev:Carl Walker's gone Burnley. Scott Carson's obviously gone. And then Trafford as well. De Bruyne to Napoli. Fucking Trafford.
46:44Theo:Oh, yeah.
46:45Reev:Jay Trafford as well. Trafford are going. Yeah, that's a really good sign. I think they've done some really good signings. They also spent loads in Jan, didn't they? So they probably didn't need that much. Is it a low-key masterclass? It is a low-key masterclass. I think it's probably a low-key masterclass. They haven't won the window, but they're definitely... Also, by the way, you know like Streets Won't Forget players? I feel like they've bought a couple of them. Like Cherky, 8 Nuri. It's definitely more fun.
47:10Theo:No more robots.
47:11Reev:Is he just building like the ultimate five-a-side team?
47:14Theo:What if Phil starts playing football again?
47:16Reev:Phil?
47:17Theo:Liverpool. Yeah, let's just put them winning the window really Yeah, but we have to talk
47:21Reev:Well, they've got Nat Phillips going to West Brom Quarnton's gone to late I didn't realise how much Quarnton got sold for 35 million That's crazy Just for that alone they've won the window Kelleher obviously going to be first team footballer at Brentford Trent They've put Can I ask about Trent? Because this way touches on something later as well He's a free agent but they paid 10 mil to get him early So what is it?
47:44Theo:10 million 10 million pound I think It classifies that It's a transfer
47:47Reev:I think we have to put it as a free agent still. No, no. They paid 10 million.
47:51Theo:It basically is a free agent, isn't it? You expedite the process, don't you? It's like getting... No, guys, you have to say it's free agent. No, it definitely really isn't. It's like getting a football shirt completely discounted, but you pay 15 pounds for postage and packaging. Yeah, so they paid his plane fee. Yeah, but 15 pounds still comes out of my account. 10 million pound plane fee. It's not a... Yeah, I mean, it's 10 mil, isn't it? Well, they've got Kirk Hez.
48:17Reev:they need a new left back Vert yeah Frimpong right back who is looking a bit mental at the moment in the games he's playing I'm not a bit scatty they do I mean they do weirdly probably still need some more players is that crazy to say Mamavash Dili Keeper Ekiti Ekiti they've got two centre backs but Artie and Van Dijk if one of them gets injured they'll screw I think they'll depending on what happens with Izak they'll probably move for Gehi yeah I think they'll probably get an Izak and seeing how much money they have left They don't have a centre-back. They don't have another one. Joe Gomez, who's got injured.
48:49Reev:He's just got injured, hasn't he? Gravenberg can play there, but then if he plays there, they've got no holding midfielders. They've got one holding midfielder and two centre-backs. They need a centre-back. They probably need a holding midfielder as well. They've got Freddie Woodman. Fabian Schaar. Imagine they go after Fabian Schaar. No way. Oh, that'd be crazy. I fucking hit this window. Freddie Woodman. Yeah, they should... Yeah, Bottman's a big sign of... Yeah, winning the window for sure. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't realise he... Freddie Woodman? And then And then we've got Leeds Pretty active Sean Longstaff You've got to be Haven't you Sean Longstaff The great signing Stack Apparently Apparently they're Signing a bunch of giants Apparently they're all Really tall Yeah Nemeck is tall That's what the Premier League is missing John Snow left though Dumb Yeah I think Just a couple away They can never have Too many players Or is it bare minimum If I'm being honest we need Tom's well you have your ball we need Tom someone call Tom put them in just a couple of ways the AFL knowledge is needed there yeah Fulham have been very quiet this is fucking shit all they've got is Lecomte they've done nothing that's horrendous yeah that has to be and William's gone as well I think Panic Vy is inbound
50:02Theo:yeah it has to be it's almost let someone laugh I think we'll have a better window than Newcastle according to this list that's what I mean it's almost let someone laugh at Newcastle I think Fulham should be with Newcastle Yeah, they should. We're not that bad. Yeah, you are.
50:15Reev:Everton. I like Everton's.
50:17Theo:He'll beat you twice next year.
50:18Reev:Scott passed you. He was on loan, wasn't he? Yeah, they bought him. He's good. That Barry is going to be good. Who is this back? Talk to me about Barry. He's another tall player. Striker. Proper, like, just like really tall target man who can actually dribble the ball, though. Like, he actually can play football. He's like Beto, if Beto could, like, play football. And they've got a new backup keeper, Travis from Bournemouth. I like that I think I don't know about this They got rid of Begovic, Ashley Young Mopi, Holgate But they've got rid of Decore I know They do need a midfielder But do you not think They could have got money For Decore Or was it just His contract ran out It would be contract Yeah but I think Decore is good
50:57Theo:You can't demand money Off someone That's Burnley I'm surprised Why didn't Everton
51:02Reev:Offer him a new contract I think he's good He scores goals I don't know Who knows He might have been On like high wages Or something It's like not worth it they probably need a bit more but bare minimum they've signed a striker that's good yeah bare minimum might say right your mighty crystal palace I mean it's pretty pretty uneventful so far Jeffrey Swapp gone Joel Ward gone I mean that's fine more than I can with that he's a he's a left wing back which we did need he looked good in preseason and Walter Benitez was PSV's number one last year and they played Champions League and he's joined us on free to probably be back up well yeah Yeah, he's not going to play Henderson.
51:41Reev:Pre-consigning, but we do need it. A lot of it just depends on outgoings. Do you think it's panic-fires inbound? I think so. Possibly. I think more of your business this season will just be keeping people. Yeah, I think it's panic-fires, especially if you lose Eze. Yeah, but we haven't lost Eze yet. No, you haven't. That's correct. I think as of right now, it's bare minimum. We've kept our best players and we've signed a left wing back, which we really needed, and a backup goalkeeper, but we've not improved the team at all. Yeah. Really. It's keeping hold of people. Yeah, if our starting XI was the same as it was last season, I'd be fine with that.
52:12Reev:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good team. All right, Chelsea. Gittens. João Pedro, who's already killed it. Liam De Lappe. Slow-key, mate. Slow-key. Teenage sensation, obviously we know about him. Sar, Asugo, and then they got rid of Petrovic. They've sold so well. They got rid of three keepers. They're getting rid of João Felix for 50 mil. Yeah, to Al Nassar. Is it Al Nassar? Just insane, yeah. Maduweke for 50 mil. if they go and get Xavi Seamans then I think that could be I mean he's always leading with Arsenal as well yeah they're definitely masterclass at the moment I think Loki masterclass it could go above that honestly we can't put two people in that top no no no Liverpool are winning it now but it could be Chelsea are active get them in Loki masterclass sir yeah that's good right Burnley Kyle Walker they've got Kyle Walker loads of people they've got Kyle Walker to his MB oh wow from Ipswich Marcus Edwards good sign in that very good sign in from Sporting and they got rid of Josh Brownhill Nathan Redman Jonjo Shelby I mean it's just pretty Jonjo Shelby
53:17Theo:was at Burnley I don't know Jonjo Shelby I don't even know they've done the Josh Brownhill
53:22Reev:wasn't their captain
53:23Theo:last year that's a pretty big loss if that's almost like an Ipswich approach isn't it really just signing a lot of people they are signing a lot of
53:31Reev:players it's probably I reckon you could even still be in panic buys incoming with that many players, to be honest. But they've got Kyle Walker as a huge signing. I know they've re-signed.
53:40Theo:Surely it's better than that. I think it's better than that.
53:43Reev:They're not worse than Palace. For God's sake, guys. I think they're just a couple of signings away. From what, though? From what? They're still going down no matter what. They're going straight back down. They're just going down. They've had a better window than Palace. They probably have, yes. That's why they have to be up there. Brighton. From the Eagles. Who have they even bought? They've got De Kuyper, left back, full back. Good player, apparently. They've lost a lot of people. Evan Ferguson's gone. Eskupinan's gone. Ja Pedro's gone.
54:11Theo:Ja Pedro, Adingra. Are they gaining much at left back, though, losing Estipinian?
54:17Reev:But Di Kaipo apparently is... Apparently, I've heard he's good. Very, very good. Very attacking. Yeah. I just expect all their players to be unbelievable because it's bright. I didn't even know Estipinian went at AC Milan. That's why he's... Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's why he's replaced. That popular guy they find is going to be good, too. But they just... Everyone's meant to be good, aren't they? They made a lot of them. They're all going to be We have to just put them in Masterclass This Kostoulas 31 million pounds Oh that striker He's a Greek striker He's 18 Oh 31 million They're just a cliche themselves Aren't they Brighton Just sign a bunch of We've got to save the Masterclass Because they know what they're doing I can guarantee this Kostoulas Will get 10 goals this season You'll get more than Yuccares It's Brighton's signings Well that is crazy You just keep losing bets I'm not going to make it to the end of the season I think they've
55:08Theo:a couple signers
55:10Reev:yeah I don't think it's a mascot I don't know but they have got rid of some big players you have to just give them I think a couple signers yeah they make
55:20Theo:considerable money off the players they get rid of they do it's also going to sign them all for like 100 million at the end of the season oh yeah they signed Japejo
55:26Reev:the label will go there next year probably Brentford obviously Jordan Henderson is a good signer I think I don't I like that It's Premier League experience, mate. I know, but there's a reason Sunderland went for Xhaka instead of Henderson when there was a clear one that he could have got. I feel like Henderson must be a bit over it now.
55:43Theo:I think there's a bad window for them at the moment. They've got Kelleher as well.
55:46Reev:I know they've got rid of Norgard and Buemo. They've lost them Buemo and Norgard.
55:49Theo:They're too big. And Wiss is going to go as well.
55:51Reev:They're in trouble.
55:52Theo:They are in big.
55:53Reev:Panic in coming.
55:54Theo:Yeah, definitely.
55:55Reev:But, Panic in coming. But the players they've got.
55:58Theo:Remember who they've lost as well. They've lost Thomas Frank too. Yeah, true. which is a crazy why did they release Ben May he's good well he could have
56:07Reev:been on high wages I liked him we've got Bournemouth Petrovic replace Kepp with Petrovic I think that's fine I think that's a good sign 25 mil that's a bit mental Kruppi and Trafford well they might lose to Barney as well this is why I think their panic buys inbound yeah yeah the thing is when you're a mid-table team it's like do they even need to do they need to panic buy because the ball they got rid of Max Ahrens on loan Jefferson Travers Hoyssen 50 mil Kirk has 40 mil You've got to think Hoyssen's a good bit of business for them in terms of the sign of 15 mil and then they flip them a year later 100 % but they definitely need to buy players What's your thoughts on Trufford?
56:46Reev:Trufford? Yeah Trufford Oh Trufford Yeah what's your thoughts? Yeah good player from Rennes Yeah What's he best at? Well he's a midfielder isn't he?
56:57Reev:Yeah left back inverted midfielder
57:00Theo:in the A-Reallis system he was the one in the article they were trying to get right in order to get allow Kirkus to leave in the article that article when we read it on the show the article
57:11Reev:yeah we read the articles Villa again haven't really bought anyone they've bought four players how the fuck's Newcastle bought them here you got a Langer mate Villa Villa what the hell Villa Villa have done have done absolutely nothing I can't believe Coutinho's only just left. Yeah, Coutinho's technically only just left, by the way. That's a big loss for them. Louis Barry. He was at Barcelona. Where's he gone? Sheffield United. Yeah, it's Sheffield United. Do you remember he was at Barcelona? I mean, it's a pretty terrible window, but they can't spend any money, can they? They can't. Well, they're getting rid of everyone.
57:46Reev:By the way, everyone at Villers either come in or come out for undisclosed. Yeah, they're keeping it very secret. What is going on at that club right now? And they might lose Watkins.
57:56Theo:That's what I mean, yeah. Do you reckon he'll go? Oh, fake. But they have no strikers. Man United will go big for them. They can't quite afford Sesco, but they probably, but the thing is like, Sesco's going to be what? Like 70 million? Is Sesco worth more than only Watkins? He's going to, I think it's like 70 million and the Watkins will be like, not the Watkins for cheaper really, are you? Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me anyway. Panic buys. Yeah, I think. Minimum. Well, even though they come on, really. How's Villa out a better fucking window than Newcastle? How do we allow that though? You need to move us up.
58:26Theo:Panic buys incoming
58:26Reev:when they come on, as my money. And then finally we have Arsenal. Jorginho's gone. Tierney's gone. Nuno Tavares. Oh, I liked him. He's on loaner Lazio, isn't he? And then he's on family. Marquinhos, yeah.
58:38Theo:Tommy Asti. He's released, yeah. He'd get better at selling. Incomings for Arsenal, though. Norgard, great. 15 million as well is ridiculously cheap. That's a bargain. Yeah. Maduecki, 52 mil. Left to be seen. That's going to be... Left-sided. Yeah, no. Mosquera, good depth. And then, obviously... Yorkish. Spain.
58:57Reev:and super mendy and kepper and kepper because sky sports is like well that's a low-key masterclass it has to be really like if yeah oh yeah minimum who's had the best out of a couple signings away i feel like you are you're not a masterclass yeah you're a couple signs a low-key masterclass i think yeah but you are you're a couple signings away if you stopped it now you wouldn't be saying that's a masterclass window from i said it's a low key one though i think i think if they went What are these tiers? What's it mean? If they got a left winger, it would be like the perfect window. So I don't think it can be...
59:31Reev:We definitely haven't won the window,
59:33Theo:but also we're not just a couple signings. We're just over a month away. You were just one signing. Yeah, so that would be more than just a couple anyway. Another tier in between. It has to be. It can't be anything else. What's low key mean?
59:47Reev:That's where we've ranked everyone so far, guys. So at the bottom we have, in the Let's We'll Laugh at Newcastle, So we have surprisingly Newcastle and Fulham. Yeah. Just above them in Panic Bies inbound, we've got West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth and Villa. Bare minimum, we've got Wolves, Forest, Everton and Palace. Just a couple of signings away. We've got Spurs, United, United, Burnley and Brighton. Oh, that is disgusting. They're going to hate that. You should have specified. Man United and Leeds United. Low-key masterclass, we've got Sunderland, City, Chelsea and Arsenal. And then winning the window so far are Liverpool.
1:00:20Reev:Look at Sunderland up there with City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. Yeah, there you go. Low key. You know who half the players are? What do you mean? I don't get low key. Are we with all fucking Brentford? They're cooking something crazy. You've seen we've had a worse window than Forrest? We signed the best player? Before we move on. That is not true, is it?
1:00:38Theo:They kept hold of their best player for 300 grand a week.
1:00:41Reev:He's not the best one. But guys, let us know in the comments if you agree or disagree with our tier list. Moving on, though, to saying a little bit of fun. We haven't actually done an 11, building an 11 in a little while. Have we not? I feel like we haven't. Hell no. Hell no. So we're going to be building our outside the big six 11. I don't like the term Big Six. Obviously, that refers to Man United, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham. How are they in there? Big Six isn't a thing, it's just the Premier League's favourite six is a better, more accurate name.
1:01:16Theo:It doesn't roll off the tongue as well.
1:01:18Reev:What are you doing? A favourable six. Because I'm getting my hamstring. What would you say the Big Six is? Six corrupt teams that the Premier League refused to let anyone compete with. no I think he meant like the actual clubs oh the teams that finished at top six the season before so Man United are not in a big six nope because they finished 17th I don't think is that not just the top six no how about I don't see the relevance of the big six like why like who it's about who are the top best six is the question really no that's the the top six and the best six are different than the big six the big six what who came up with the term big six it originated from it originated from yeah it originated from them finishing normally top six all of them.
1:02:00But Manny United are the biggest club in the world. Yeah, you can call them that. Biggest, not best. But why is it even relevant to being the big six? Because when Manny United
1:02:08Reev:play against Liverpool, Manchester City, people tune in. And they lose. You should be enjoying this segment. No, I do. Don't mind me. We can use your players. I've got three Newcastle players in there, you know. Well, anyways, guys. Yeah, so we can use three players from each team outside of the big six. So obviously not from those big six. And Oli, Would you like to go first? I would love to Hell yeah Thanks I actually didn't realise I couldn't do more than three But it's fine
1:02:35Theo:Because I didn't anyway Do you know what? I did exactly the same thing I've just read the segment I've gone Oh okay But then I've realised That I didn't do that There's a lot of options
1:02:43Reev:There's a lot of good players A lot of good players Agreed In net I've gone for Jordan Pickford Oh yeah England international Prem A non-big six legend Yeah Right back shout out Livramento but I couldn't get him in because of the limits Daniel Munoz yeah baby sorry FA Cup winner Daniel Munoz next to him I've got FA Cup winner Mark Gahey and then Murillo not Milenkovic I think Murillo is better than Milenkovic I thought you were going to FA Cup winner Lacroix yeah I'll just use all my Palace players straight away and then Anthony Robertson left back surely that is the biggest tap into the whole thing in midfield I've got the Newcastle pivot of Bruno G and Tonali.
1:03:27Reev:Hell yeah. That is insanely good, to be fair. Behind Izak, who's my striker, I have got Morgan Rodgers, FA Cup winner Eze, and Mitoma. Oh, so you're playing a 4-2-3-1? I'm playing a 4-2-3-1 with a classic number 10. There are a lot of centre-mids and loads of centre-backs. We're too many, yeah. Loads of centre-backs and loads of centre-mids and I've been biased. That's fine. Absolutely fair enough.
1:03:51Theo:I think it's a great squad there. Thanks. That's a really good 11. Thanks. Should I do mine? We compliment each other's 11. In goal, I have Jordan Pickford. Yes. Right back, I have FA Cup winner, Daniel Munoz. Nice. I have, just because I like centre-back partnerships together a little more, I have Milenkovic and Murillo. I feel like that, wow. Yeah, that's nice. Didn't want to split them up. Yeah, yeah. They're a duo. And then, of course, the tap-in is Anthony Robertson at left back. I have Tonali, Bruno G and Eze. Off the left, I have Morgan Rodgers. In the middle I have Izak and on the right I have Jared Bowen.
1:04:27Theo:Very, very similar team. Oh, shit. I think it's like Tomer and Gehi away from him.
1:04:33Reev:I think there's been a couple of notable admissions right now. Yeah, interesting list. Theo, did you do anything whilst he was naming his list? Change any of your players? Is that what you were laughing at? Yeah, I thought you changed your player. No, I was on my main channel videos, I'd spelled something wrong. How far can you just cycle in one minute? I thought you were changing your players. No. All right. I've got a better one than all yours. Spend the entire segment trying to call him out. I've got 3-5-2. Okay. I like that. So we're going Sells and goal. Murillo, Gahey and Tarkowski players of the season.
1:05:09Theo:Do you think Sells is better than Martinez and Pickford? I could have went Martinez. Do you know why I didn't go Martinez? I planned on using more Aston Villa players but then I ended up not using them. So I probably should have put Martinez in.
1:05:20Reev:He had a terrible season last year at Martinez. I think he'll win the Golden Glove again. No, what's the best goalie award? Yeah, just because he's Emi Martinez. Carry on, mate. Sorry. I was waiting for your follow-up. Tarkovsky. Yeah, man, he's the most underrated player in the Premier League. I knew he was coming for you. I knew he was coming. I love it, that's fine. I've seen you bigger than that. What if I was in who? Get here, Marillo. Three at the back. That's actually quite nice. Let's get back to it. That would work. Yeah, that's pretty good. Right. Okay, I might have... No, it's actually not too bad.
1:05:46Reev:Have you got fullbacks? Well, unless Rogers and Gordon and want to play fullback. There's actually good fullback options. No, no, no, because I really wanted to fit these in. So I'm going to have Rodgers on the right. I'm going to have Gordon on the left. Before you start, Rodgers has played like 80 times on the right. Not a right wing back, but he is on the right. We're playing Tenali, Deep, Joel Linton, and then in front of them, Eze, and then Wisser and Strand Larson. Where's Brody? Sorry. Strand Larson? Wisser and Strand Larson. That is such a shit front team. Where's Isaac? Mateta fucking Isaac in my life if you're ignoring Isaac you're a palace player Mateta Mateta is so much better than Straddlasser can you tell you more about how many goals he's got less than Mateta by the way I've been talking about Straddlasser for years by the way he said
1:06:34Theo:I didn't put Martinez in net just in case I wanted to use all my Aston Miller players and he put in Morgan Rodgers and that was it no Bruno G no Watkins there was no room I have used on my Newcastle players Jonathan over Bruno G I used on my Newcastle players and Bruno players surely you can't 14 goals? Surely you don't think he's better than Oli Watkins. I love Strand Larson. He's good, but he is not better than Watkins. Or Mateta, actually. Yeah, if you can say that, Premier League goals. Nah, I'm not a big fan of Mateta. What? Watkins has an argument. I don't like Mateta. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
1:07:0414, then he got 16 the season before that. Strand Larson did more, got more goals.
1:07:10Reev:No, they got the same Premier League goals this season. Strand Larson, less games. He's got 38 goals and assists in the last two years, Mateta. This isn't actually that bad. Watkins has only one goal ahead. I mean like it's not actually that yeah but he's a yeah but he got like 10 assists as well he wasn't even starting for a while for Villa it's injured no it wasn't why how many did he get no Jordan Durant started like 10 games well still he played every game 16 goals 8 assists no I like Strun Larsson a lot I think he'll kick on even more this season and Wisser no bias there at all but he's but you haven't got Izak in
1:07:43Theo:no bias there at all but he's not got Izak in his team yeah well the bias is they're going to sign with her. I think you get rid of me. For me, I just wanted more reliable strikers. I think you've missed that
1:07:53Reev:on quite a big centre mid, personally. In guard, I've got Jordan Pickford. I've got back, I'm playing 4-3-3. I've got Munoz, Milenkovic, Murillo and Robinson. Midfield three of Tielemans, Bruno G and Eze. Well, that's only preference then. You either go Tenali or Tielemans. Yeah. And front three of Bowen, Isaac or Gordon. Do you think Tielemans is better than Tenali? I don't. Or is that just to fit people in? I think I had three. You have three Newcastle players. Yeah, they got Gordon on the left. Isaac and Bowen. Whoa, Eze, Bruno, Tielemans. Whoa. That is a nice little midfield. Yeah, that's naughty, isn't it?
1:08:29Reev:And the back four as well. Oh, don't get me started on that.
1:08:33Theo:Well, yeah, the only reason you're saying we've missed a big name out is because you used players in different positions. Big names missed out you have.
1:08:41Reev:No, Robinson is crazy, by the way. He's probably the best left back in the Prem. I didn't have left or right. I've got Robinson left back. No, no, I'm talking about Lewis. I want my centre back soon. I like me... I play three at the back. Any notable shouts we've missed out on there, guys? There's so many in there. There's only Villa Baconsa, maybe? Villa have a lot of pins. La Croix. Warton, I wanted to have. I really wanted to have Warton. Kyle Walker? Yeah, that's true. Who's that Wolves centre back again? Who's good? Oh, Agba do. Yeah, he's... Wolves fans say he's the best centre back they've ever had.
1:09:15Reev:Some of them. Is there much competition? They've had Craig Dawson and they had Willie Bollie. He was a great player. What were we with West Ham? Yeah, Wambasaka, maybe? It was Hammer of the Year last year, I think. Hammer of the Year. It's kind of a bit of a life hack having Newcastle and Villa outside the big six because they are both like really good. Yeah. Not for Lewis if you only put in one Villa player. Well, no one got Martinez in goal. Yeah, that's what we were saying.
1:09:38Theo:Yeah, it was just too bad last season, wasn't it?
1:09:40Reev:Yeah, I think Pickford is better as well. If you...
1:09:42Theo:Vatsel's also played for Newcastle. It's very... What's the word? anti-hipster now to say Martinez. It used to be cool to say Emi Martinez. Now it's like, oh, give it a rest, mate.
1:09:51Reev:If you took Man United and Spurs out of the big six, how many of their players do you think would be in this 11? Definitely a couple. Bruno Fernandes would be in it. Fernandes would be...
1:10:05Theo:Romero, maybe? Yeah, one of Van Der Ven or Romero, I reckon.
1:10:10Reev:One day we took Villa or Newcastle. So if you take, in my team, Bruno G Gordon and Isaac I'll go Watkins Rodgers Villa and Newcastle Villa and Newcastle
1:10:20Theo:that is Villa that is Villa yeah he's replacing him with the other team Villa and Husser Elliot Anderson you could probably put in no I probably would go Whistle like Lou did yeah definitely keep Bowen should that last Wartom would be in midfield for me I think yeah I think I'd go as a left wing and then put Adam Warton in midfield it's probably easier isn't it Adam Warton
1:10:40Reev:Granit Xhaka
1:10:41Theo:he's not out of the club yet is he That's actually not a crazy shout. Oh. Has it been official? No, he's not. He's been here we go, doesn't he? Here we go. No, but he's not actually at the... Fucking Joel Pedro's here we go to Newcastle. He saw how that worked out. He doesn't know shit after Mitchell. I mean, there's the argument for like Semenya and... Yeah, no Bournemouth. Some of the Bournemouth players. Like Justin Cliver too, but... Did any of us have any Bournemouth players? And they finished ninth.
1:11:05Reev:Yeah.
1:11:05Theo:But I didn't think Semenya is better than Bowen. You're on the right. You're not taking Semenya over Bowen, are you? Yeah.
1:11:11Reev:I think Zabani's a little bit unlucky but yeah there's just too many good too many good setbacks could he gone Petrovic in goal nah let us know your outside the big six teams in the comments down below guys I'll be intrigued to see how you lot get on obviously I'm assuming all your teams in the comments will be perfect and ours will be shit so yeah put them down in the comments but finally we are doing we've been trying to do this segment for like three weeks now we always run out of time but we are doing it today we are going to be discussing the 10 best free agent transfers of all time.
1:11:46Theo:Yeah, shout out Scott who suggested the segment. Scott Grant does a segment on the best free transfers of all time because I'm beginning to think it's Donnarumma. I did not even know that Donnarumma signed on a free. PSG could sell him for 100 million, but yeah. Well, you know where they got, well, we'll speak about the others that they brought in at the same time, but do you remember when they unveiled like all five of them at the same time? I didn't know Donnarumma
1:12:05Reev:was on a free. Yeah. Oh, that's an unreal sign. He wouldn't, I mean, he's not in my top 10. He's not in my top turn either. No, my top turn either. But he arguably probably should be. There's a lot of good free transfers. Some of these have crazy legacies. Yeah. I suppose he has two now, to be fair. Obviously, there could be a few free transfers this year. By the way, I'm just going to put it out there. One of my free transfers cost a little bit of money. That's fine. Well, he's carrying it over from the previous. Who wants to go first? I went last, so I'll go first. That's how it works around here, son.
1:12:41Reev:Thanks, dad. It's okay, son. In 10, I've got JJ Okocha, PSG to Bolton. Fun. Fucking love it. No, that's beast mode, isn't it? That's true, Harry. JJ Okocha sign for Bolton. Fucking up the Bolton. Rainbow flicking everyone. Yeah, man. Number nine, I've got Leon Goretzka, Schalke to Bayern Munich. Yeah. Mega. number eight I've got Trent Alexander Arnold Liverpool to Real Madrid but he's not even played it's just not even I haven't even seen him play very early call there of all time here's why here's why Trent Alexander Arnold is arguably the best right back in the world it wasn't a free transfer though that's irrelevant he wasn't a free transfer he was he wasn't he cost 10 million pounds he was ignore Goode's AI no AI Yes, he was a free.
1:13:39Reev:No, he wasn't. Yes, Trent Alexander-Arnold left Liverpool on a free transfer at the end of his contract. How did he leave his contract early? I'm sure he's bought a bit. No, they didn't. How did he leave his contract early? No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Stop a second. Stop a second. Go, Trent. Let me talk. You type right. 8.4 million. No, you're BBC. No, they paid 8.4 million to play him in the Club World Cup, but he'd gone on a free. Arnold players... They could have gone on a free. Real Madrid paid Liverpool about 8.4 million for Trent where they could have gotten for free in just a month later.
1:14:08You think Liverpool, you think Liverpool, you think Liverpool are going to sell Trent
1:14:12Reev:for eight million quid, you'd be dumb. Yeah, they'd want to let him go on a free. Sorry, we're down to nine. No, we're counting. It's not. How have you messed up a free transfer? No, I purposely put him in because I'm classing him as a free transfer. But you can't. Well, that's not how it works. It's not just how it works. Even if we do that, which is objectively incorrect, he's still, what's he done? it's still not even on the list if you hypothetically right if you get what a lot of people consider the best right back in the world on a free that's a good you've not even seen him play yet for Liverpool I've seen him play for Liverpool he might stink up
1:14:49Theo:the first three months and never play for Liverpool he was alright
1:14:52Reev:in the Cup of World Cup I'll put him in the top 10 of all time well speaking of right backs number 7 Cafu when he joined AC Milan from Roma beast mode number 6 Cam Biasso joining Inter from Real Madrid spent 10 years at Inter winning Champions League 15 trophies and they won I didn't know you know the 0-9-10 team which he was part of they actually won Serie A five years in a row and they won the treble that year yeah Diego Melito missed out on the Ballon d 'Or number five Paul Pogba when he went to Juventus from United in 2012 I want to say it was yeah okay number four Sol Campbell spurs to Arsenal not just might be a bit higher just from a bias standpoint I'm unbiased sorry also I can't put him higher than the next three people oh Mbappe PSG Terrell Madrid yeah what I'm just like I appreciate like in terms of quality of player it's probably the best ever but like I mean they've not been amazing that's still insane yeah
1:15:58Theo:just for the sell on value that they are I mean like commercial value the club gets also
1:16:03Reev:Also, he's got the most record goals in a first season for Real Madrid and he's played out of position. Yeah. If you said... And also, whoever did that fucking TikTok, okay, saying that when we did... Did you see that? I was livid. I was so close to leaving a comment, but I didn't want to be a read. Okay? We did put a TikTok reading out viewer comments. I'm reading out viewer comments. And I read one out that said Mbappe will never win the Ballon d 'Or. And then you three all agreed and I disagreed. But this guy made a TikTok about how dumb all four of us are for agreeing that he'll never win the Ballon d 'Or.
1:16:36Reev:By the way, I didn't see it. By the way, Oli, in the video, I'm saying multiple times he will win. He's at Real Madrid. He plays for France. He's probably going to win the Ballon d 'Or. So how has he said that you said... Because he didn't watch the whole video. He just saw me read out the line, saw you three agree, and stopped the video and made a video calling us all dumb. By the way, it's actually true as well.
1:16:55Theo:It's a good tick. It's your mate. That's my friend of the show. Well, if he never wins one, we look like geniuses, don't we? Yeah, he's not going to win one, is the thing. He genuinely isn't going to win one. My Isaac winning the Ballon d 'Or just went miles up as well, by the way. If he goes for Liverpool, that one's going to come back on. You're going to be happy or sad if that happens.
1:17:14Reev:I'll be happy just for that clip because the amount of fucking heat I got over that. So whoever you are who made that TikTok, fuck you and watch the whole video because I'm so triggered. Mbappé's my hero. Who do you like more, Mbappé or Ronaldo? Mbappe? Mbappe? Mbappe? Mbappe? Mbappe? Mbappe? Right, who's your... No, no, stay out of here, man. You can't be fucking arsed. No. No, thanks for the 150. No, thanks for the 150. What a treat it is to have one of the world's best talents. Thank you for the 150. What you've done is so generous. Ekotika is shit as well.
1:17:52Theo:Oh, have you seen him in training? He looks good. He looks good.
1:17:55Reev:I don't even know he's official yet. You know when Trent left you on a free to Real Madrid? Yeah. Yeah, that's all I need to hear. It wasn't a free. It was 8.4 million. We're doing a top 10 free transfer of all time. He's got Trent in. It wasn't free. It wasn't free. But he wasn't free. It wasn't free. He signed for 8.4 million. It was a free. Well, actually, that is a good point. No, no, no. Technicality, they did pay us. Yeah, it wasn't free. They paid for him. Anyway, it says in the article. Number two. Number two. Messi. Barcelona to PSG. yeah but what did he do what did he do at PSG 1-2 Liga also the commercial value the commercial value of signing Lionel Messi on a free when you could have paid about 200 million pounds I get it in terms of quality of player but what did he do would PSG go man Messi what a legend of the game for us no having Messi was pretty cool yeah it's cool yeah
1:18:49Theo:it's not the coolest free transfers ever
1:18:50Reev:it's the best sorry it's been specific I remember when I was doing my research I was like Messi to PSG No way. I was rattled reading it. Well, the undisputed best free transfer of all time is this. And there's no way of arguing it because it's true. Come on. Okay. Not only did he win 19 trophies in eight years, he scored 238 goals in 253 appearances. Who are you talking about? Robert Lewandowski. Yeah. Dortmund to Bayern Munich is the best free transfer of all time, period.
1:19:26Theo:Yeah. Yeah, I think I'd agree with that. You're welcome. He could be on the list multiple times, by the way. That's not even... Yeah, literally. Have you ever left for a fee anywhere? I think when Dortmund originally signed up for him. Who'd they get him from? Somewhere in a Polish team. He was going to go to Blackburn,
1:19:41Reev:wasn't he? And then he got... Was he? Yeah, and then there was the ash cloud. I love those stories in football. There was the ash cloud. He couldn't fly there. Was that actually why? Yeah, yeah. You know Lewandowski, I remember playing with him on FIFA when he was 79 rated. Who did he play for in Poland? I just feel like if he went to Blackburn, He probably would have Ended up like Just being a proper Standard player Lech Poznan Is that Poznan I know It was when he signed For Dortmund Yeah When he was in Dortmund He was like 79 rated 5 million he went for 5 mil They actually lost money On him in the end It's 45 million He's only gone on a free once I thought he went to Barca Oh No 45 mil Yeah Okay Fuck it Right I want to hear your Free transfers Lewis If that's okay That's absolutely fine Theo By the way Best list Until mine What other than they're not Yeah 10 10th, Thiago Silva to Chelsea.
1:20:28Yeah, that's a good shout. Gotta be on there, man. Gotta be on there. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. He won some trophies. What did he win? Champions League. Premier League. Probably. He didn't win the Premier League, did he? Did he win the Premier League? Nah, I don't know. Champions League. Nah, he's a good shout. I like that shout, to be fair. Next. Alaba to Real Madrid.
1:20:47Theo:Yeah, again, great one, mate. I'm on a run. Yeah.
1:20:51Reev:He's just not been very good at Real Madrid. He's won so much shit as well. Albert He was like Everyone in Europe He was injured for like a year Wasn't he He's not been great at Real Madrid
1:21:01Theo:Yes he has He has been Get his profile up Will What I want to say I'm back in your head I'm back in your head Because he's on my list No I don't know
1:21:09Reev:He's played 74 times in 4 years Yeah that's terrible He signed for free He's getting a bit old No he's getting a bit old now But like when he came in He was fucking beast mode He's only Can we stop looking him to the start Alright next one He's won two Champions League but was he the guy to win them?
1:21:31Theo:Yeah, I mean he's a He was a lot better at Bayern. Yeah, but it's still a free, we're talking about free transfers and he's gone and won two Champions Leagues at the club. He's done more than Mbappe has. Well, I know and I don't agree with Mbappe. Mbappe and Trent. Yeah, and Trent. We've been putting Alibaba over Trent. I've been, that's fair. Two fucking Champions League. Who's actually playing as well? A£10 million player that's played in a preseason friendly tournament. And he's questioning it as well. Right. That was a good shout, man. I back it. Gretzka to Bayern. Yep. Sol Campbell to Arsenal.
1:22:09Yep. And when? What position is that? Seventh? Seventh, yeah. Do you even have Sol Campbell in yours? Oh, you have him fourth. Yeah, seventh. Hey, don't spoil the list. Sol Campbell, seventh. Yeah, stop spoiling the list. What's your problem? Messi to PSG, sixth. You didn't get the prime, Messi, but... He's in my list, man. You get Messi on a free transfer. What do you mean? What do you do? What do you do? Name what? Exist. Name one thing right now that Messi did at PSG.
1:22:42Reev:He played. Name one thing he did. I don't care. What was his most iconic moment? Stopped them winning the Champions League. Exactly. That is his legacy. You managed to get the best player in the history of football to play for your club on a free. I don't even care. Inter Miami did that as well, yeah. Yeah, that should be on here as well, to be fair. He's done more for Inter Miami than he did for the first time. Mbappe to Madrid. That's just pure fucking... You could sell him now for a lot of money, couldn't you? Get him on a free, he's all right. Couldn't you? I've seen his number one spot and it's the most stupid thing I've ever seen in my life.
1:23:11It's not. Kaka, Madrid to Milan. I loved Kaka back in the day as well. He's some sexy... No, that was when Kaka was washed, wasn't it? No, no, no, no, no, no. He had a good time at Milan. Yeah, before he went to Madrid. Free Real Madrid. Yeah, that was before. He won the ballon. No, he was good when he went back. He got back.
1:23:29Theo:This was his injury, Christ. No, no, no. He was good when he went back. Just type in. I don't think that's correct, mate. Go on time to market. Mate, he was there for like a couple of years, if that.
1:23:39Reev:He was there for one season. And scored seven goals. Pretty good seven goals. Great shift he had there.
1:23:45Theo:And then he left. You're thinking about the wrong period in time, man. Yeah, he won the Ballon d 'Or pre-Real Madrid at 8th and Milan. That was seven years after he was really good at football. Yeah, I might be a stinger then. I think I've mixed it up in my brain, haven't I? Did you not realise he was there before? No, but I just... It's a good season. They finished 8th. I'm not sure what my brain's done. I've obviously not thought very well. He went there, scored seven goals, Milan finished 8th, won nothing. I know, but he's iconic, isn't he? Next, Cafu to Milan. Lewandowski, Dortmund to Bayern.
1:24:14And in first... Wait, Lewandowski's two?
1:24:17Reev:Cafu's three? Where's Camp Lo Cambiasso? Yeah, fuck that. First place for me because of the success to come, Harlan to City. The most sought after player in world football. He wasn't free. He was 51 mil. He wasn't free. He was a free. He wasn't free. He was free.
1:24:35Theo:He's 51 million pounds. 51 million pounds. Just because he was cheaper than everyone thought he was going to be, you fucking idiot. He was free. He wasn't free. Where have you got that from? You are mental, mate. It feeds 60 mil. Euros. Yeah. But I mean, 51 million quid in real British pounds. Where have you got that from? I thought he came. That's a generation. In my head, he came on a free. That is genuine. They paid like 50 million in like roses to him. No, he should have been about 150 million pounds. But because his contract amount was so high per week, they could afford to pay 50 million pounds in the transfer fee.
1:25:12Theo:That's not going to go down well at all, is it? That is crazy.
1:25:15Reev:Number one, I thought it was like, he was going to do like a joke about it and like say, oh, he should have been free because he's so shit. I'm actually on your side with the Trent thing. No, it's nothing to do with the Trent thing. No, I just, I'm just trying to get you on side. Yeah. That'll go down good. I'll check. Slide, slide. Sometimes like my, I just felt like in my brain, they paid him like, they just paid extortionate amounts in aging fees because he was a free. Yeah, they did because he should have been 200 mil. so that 50 wasn't a transfer fee though it was a transfer fee
1:25:48Theo:was that a release clause yeah it was a release clause but then they paid him and his agent loads of money but because it's a release clause that's where my brain in my brain it was free but like they paid like 50 million in like fucking just new agent fees and shit we gotta call Tom or something man that needs to be someone get my face on him right now that's fucking crazy just let me off yours would be shit did you do that on purpose? no in my brain it was just like they paid 50 million you know when you do research for the show technicality from club that's the only one I didn't research because that one came
1:26:17Reev:from my memory but surely when you did all the research you didn't see Haaland on any of the lists
1:26:24Theo:yeah because he cost 50 mil oh yeah look but maybe it was I don't know I didn't think about that that didn't style me maybe it was just a rogue take which it is technically a rogue take mainly because it's incorrect you're fucking off your head right I'm just going to do mine because we'll ignore the fact that your first free transfer of all time cost 51 million pounds right in a number 10 I've got Goretzka to Bayern Munich 9 I have Thiago Silva 8 Alaba to Madrid lightly mentioned 7 Balak to Chelsea yeah good one 6 Pogba to Juventus 5 So Campbell to Arsenal 4 James Milner to Liverpool yeah no one said that which is fucking mental yeah 3 sorry mate Messi to PSG 2 on the basis of how good the fucking player is is Mbappe to Real Madrid and one is Lewandowski to Bayern Munich.
1:27:18Reev:I just don't agree of not having Kambiasso in this list. I don't agree. If you've got James Milner in it,
1:27:25Theo:you have to have Kambiasso. All right. You've got Trent in yours. He's free. He's not free. He was free. Stop saying that because he just wasn't. Also, vice versa, you should have put James Milner in yours. Maybe I should, but who for? Well I think the person That left Liverpool For money He didn't He did You've done the same thing As me by the way I don't know why You're getting on to me You've done the exact Same thing as me We both named players Who went for transfer fees Trent was free You can't We did the exact same thing By accident or on purpose You have no leg to stand on No I've stunk I have no leg to stand on But neither does he He's trying to like Put himself Harland's contract Harden's contract wasn't run out You said one of the biggest Transfer signings Premier League has ever seen As your number one Trent's contract hadn't run out Hence why
1:28:17Reev:There was some logic behind it No no no There was like 10 days Left in his contract It's the same thing We both fucked up In the same way We both near people Who had transfer fees You didn't
1:28:27Theo:You fucked up by saying A person that got paid out Their release clause That's not a free transfer That was a transfer They paid 10 million pounds I feel like that should get more leeway than saying Erling Harlan as the greatest free transfer of all time. Was this a free transfer? Was this a free transfer? No, but at least it nearly was. Was mine a free transfer? Definitely not. Here's the answer. I'll tell you the difference. The difference is you've bought a massive box of chocolates, right? And yours on the website goes, 100 % discount. Okay, we'll pay£4.50 postage of packaging. No, that's not how it was.
1:29:03Theo:Yours, you've paid two and a half grand for a box of chocolates. That's not an analogy. That is true. What it is, is it's like when you go abroad to the petrol station and they have toilets that you have to pay for. No way. Now, I went for the one with a bit more room and paid five euro and he went for the smaller one and paid one euro. No way.
1:29:21Reev:When does that ever happen? Who's paying five euros for a toilet?
1:29:24Theo:All you have to do, genuinely, all you have to do was type in Erling Haaland into Google and realise that he wasn't free. But you thought, no, no, no, my memory's better than Google.
1:29:35Reev:That's why he doesn't teach you on any of the lists When you do research You're crazy Well I haven't gotten Mbappe or Messi in my top 10 Because I want to see hard results He's got the most goals By any Real Madrid player ever Yeah what do you mean one season Just Real Madrid
1:29:54Theo:Do you not even think commercially like that's a ridiculous signing alone
1:29:57Reev:Nah Alright Crystal Palace getting Mbappe on a free Yeah it's terrible unless he does something for us I'll be fuming I'll be actively angry Your shirt sales would earn you more than you've ever earned in your life You'd be angry to get a bad pick I'll be fuming with that terrible waste of money even if it was free Number 10 I'm actually going to change it from my list I'm going to go Joel Matip Schalke to Liverpool Ooh nice Interesting He won everything I think He wasn't critical in doing that He was pretty Well you rate Matip Very high He started Bobby Moore He started a Champions League Obviously better than Bobby Moore but other than that I've got some quite hipster choices in here Number 9 I've got Juninho from Lyon I saw that one in 2000.
1:30:34Reev:He played 343 games, won 14 trophies. All of them were Liga. Number eight, Milner to Liverpool. Number seven, Steven Mannerman to Real Madrid in 1999. So I didn't include McMahonerman or Luis Enrique and all that looks. Oh yeah, obviously you watch them play a lot. No, no. Now my Enrique one is actually crazy 4D chess that I've got some really good logic like that. How did McMahonerman do at Real Madrid? He won the title twice and two Champions Leagues. Yeah. Pretty good, that. Number six, Pogba to Juve. Number five, Cafu to Milan. Number four, Cambiasso to Inter. Number three, Enrique to Barcelona.
1:31:13Reev:Not just because of the actual time on the pitch, but it also then led to him becoming a coach at Barcelona. Then he came back and managed them to the treble. No, no. You've seen the same list that I have and you've done the same list. What list have you been looking?
1:31:29Theo:Wait, wait, wait. Have you been looking a list? What do you mean? You have to do research. You clearly didn't do any. At least I can say I didn't do research.
1:31:37Reev:Do I think you should do research for a short topic? Yes, I do. Did you copy your list? No, I did not. That's why it's completely different. I'm going to search. I'm going to search. What do you think Trent would be in all the lists, would he? That's a fair point, actually. What position was Luis Enrique? He's number three, but that's mainly for the managerial side of things. Number three, what is your left back? What? Oh, no. Sorry, I thought you meant my list. It was a midfielder. Yeah, that's right. Shut up. number two
1:32:03Theo:that wasn't as cool as you guys thought that no it was old player where did he play
1:32:11Reev:I put Sol Campbell to Arsenal number two just partly because it was like from Spurs and he was their best player yeah get extra points and then number one Levin's obviously to buy him obviously not Ireland to Man City no Messi no Mbappe no I need results I'm a results driven man I can't believe you've not put Alain
1:32:29Theo:Messi did win two league titles two Champions Leagues for Alain Brown. He's crocked, mate. That is a man that literally delivered. He's crocked.
1:32:36Reev:Crocked. Do you know, I think in back scoring the most goals ever for a rugby player in a first season out of position is results. But what does he win? And you think Messi winning two league titles is results. I know it's not Champions League, but... I feel like Messi's legacy at PSG is almost being part of, in theory, the best front. First or second best front ever and not winning the Champions League. I like Messi. Hot take. put that out there I do actually rate Messi generally Justin K I never thought I'd see the day where I'm sticking up for Lionel Messi there I just don't think he was that good
1:33:11Theo:I agree I think he should be talking about objectively free transfers Lionel Messi going on a free is pretty pretty good at the point he did as well it's really sad Inter Miami is a bit different because that was obviously even later he's still doing unreal
1:33:24Reev:at Inter Miami and he convinced FIFA to let him in all the other competitions
1:33:28Theo:they're not normally allowed in yeah didn't him moving help them get the World Cup bid as well yeah I think so there you go it's a pretty good free transfer
1:33:36Reev:but unfortunately for Lionel Messi he didn't do the meme that everyone wanted him to do on the Coldplay cam
1:33:41Theo:no he didn't he just kept going like that he just stood there really awkwardly with his misses everyone wanted him
1:33:46Reev:to be like and Chris Martin serenading him
1:33:48Theo:he's just like I love Messi
1:33:50Reev:in social situations it was on the cameras on him for far too long I feel bad but I was like no one wants that man yeah a bit awkward but anyways guys let us know who has the best list
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