Our Man Utd v Man City ALL TIME Draft XI, The Most UNDERRATED Player At Every PL Club & The Top 10 CB's In The Prem!

15 Sep 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Pitchside’s “The Pyramid” episode does two football lists: (1) “Most underrated player at every Premier League club” (team-by-team picks) and (2) a debate-ranking of the “Top 10 CBs in the Prem” (centre-backs only), with arguments about who’s overrated/underrated and who should start.

Guests

The episode is a multi-host panel (no clear names given in the transcript). One recurring speaker is “Reeve” and another is “Dave”; they debate picks and rankings. “Callum Fowler” appears as a named contributor/guest host at one point (“Welcome to Pitchside, Callum Fowler”).

Key claims (examples)

  • Man City: Erling Haaland could be “underrated” due to expected 60-goal output.
  • Tottenham: Martin Dubravka should start over “Kinskki” (spelling unclear).
  • Aston Villa: Nicholas Jackson is a strong fit; predicts 15+ Premier League goals.
  • Man United: Aidan Heaven is claimed as their best centre-half; Luke Shaw is argued to still be at a high level.
  • Chelsea: “For Fauna”/Fafana is called rubbish by one host; others defend certain defenders.

Notable examples

The hosts also argue about Tonali’s form at Spurs, and debate Arsenal’s centre-back trio (Saliba vs Gabriel vs Van Dijk) in the top-10 CB list.

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Chapters

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Underrated Players Discussion Begins

2:15 to 3:21

The hosts begin discussing the most underrated player at every Premier League club.

“They haven't considered a goal yet, man.”

Coventry and Man City Underrated Players

3:22 to 4:28

The hosts share their picks for underrated players from Coventry and Manchester City.

“No, I don't think people know how good he is.”

Fulham and Spurs Underrated Players

4:29 to 5:41

The conversation continues with Fulham and Spurs, debating player quality.

“Because I think he's going to have got 60 goals.”

Newcastle and Aston Villa Underrated Players

5:42 to 7:18

Discussion shifts to Newcastle and Aston Villa's underrated players.

“I've gone Dubravka, because he should be starting, because Kinkski is shit.”

Betting and Player Picks

7:19 to 8:59

The hosts discuss their bets and continued player analysis, focusing on Aston Villa.

“people were comparing him to Bruno G and Declan Rice?”

Bournemouth and Ipswich Analysis

9:00 to 9:56

The hosts analyze underrated players from Bournemouth to Ipswich.

“But I think he'll be a really good fit for Villa.”

Choosing Underrated Players

14:01 to 15:11

The hosts discuss underrated players in various clubs, sharing their thoughts and selections.

“You contradicted yourself and you want me to apologise?”

Defensive Choices and Opinions

15:12 to 16:48

A back-and-forth conversation about the best defenders and underrated centre-halves.

“He's one of the only people that hasn't been on fire.”

Manchester United Players Discussed

16:49 to 18:51

The hosts evaluate Manchester United's players and their performances, particularly focusing on defenders.

“Mate, he was like one of USA's best men's national side players.”

Brighton and Leeds Player Picks

18:52 to 19:51

Hosts discuss their choices for underrated players from Brighton and Leeds, debating their abilities.

“Just to play devil's advocate here, World Cup winning Martinez.”
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Evaluating Teams and Players

19:52 to 23:19

A detailed discussion on various teams and their players, focusing on who is underrated and who is not.

“Kadio Gluol went No No accept him No don't mind that That is FPL standard that isn't it Kadiyoglu, he plays all the time.”

Everton and Defensive Insights

23:20 to 24:25

Exploration of Everton's squad and discussions about player importance and underrated aspects.

“You could argue all the centre-backs, to be fair, if you wanted to.”

Liverpool and Brentford Analysis

24:26 to 27:44

Conversations around Liverpool's key players and Brentford's strategic placements and performances.

“I think probably Maguire, actually, and a better team.”

Underrated Players in Premier League

28:00 to 30:35

Discussion about underrated players from various Premier League clubs.

“anytime he says I follow a lot of people who from each club I can't name the exact Who's the Brentford fans you follow?”

Debate on Top Centre-Backs

31:04 to 36:16

In-depth discussion on the rankings of top centre-backs in the Premier League.

“Not a fancy name, not a fancy looking player.”

Personal Rankings and Opinions

36:17 to 42:01

Hosts share and debate their personal rankings of centre-backs.

“We are now ranking our top 10 centre-backs in the Premier League.”

Ranking Premier League Centre-Backs

42:01 to 44:28

The hosts discuss their rankings of the top centre-backs in the Premier League.

“I mean, I've seen more of him than Jacquet.”

Debates on Player Quality

44:28 to 48:20

A heated debate ensues regarding the quality and rankings of different centre-backs.

“Oh, so you've got him two places above me.”

All-Time Premier League Draft Setup

48:20 to 51:10

The hosts set up for an all-time Premier League draft featuring Manchester City and Manchester United players.

“We've all got the unanimous top five, though.”

Drafting Top Players

51:10 to 56:00

The hosts take turns drafting their all-time Premier League team.

“We're doing an all-time Premier League draft, Man City, Man United.”

Drafting All-Time Premier League XI

56:00 to 1:04:49

The hosts draft their all-time Premier League XI, debating player choices.

“I'll have Yahya Ture Yeah love it mate That is so mega That's me Class from you French Michael Class from you Not Elano Who?”

Team Comparisons and Arguments

1:04:50 to 1:07:08

The hosts compare their teams, discussing strengths and weaknesses.

“Your defence is shit, but it's a very good team.”
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1:14Oh, this side's actually ball players. Yeah. What's on your back? Don't turn around. There's a Predator. No, I'm sponsoring a team. That's why I put the shirt on. Are those shirts from, like, Thailand? Jesus. Why have you got Predator on the back? That's the team name. They're called The Predators. I think they're like the Nottingham Predators. Oh, Jesus. And you wanted to sponsor The Predator. But prior to the sponsorship, I didn't know what the team was. Oh, so Reeve is now a Predator. So you're saying you'd go back on it now? I've already paid. Is that what they wanted? The title was Reeve is a Predator.

1:52Anyway, this is a podcast in lieu because right now, as you're watching this, nobody's here. Yeah, we're all getting married to the game. We're not getting married. So there's going to be no Premier League review on this podcast because we haven't seen the game. Although I can tell you what happened. Yeah, congratulations on Cole Paul. I'm getting a hat-trick and my triple captain going really well. Triple captain it? I'm going to. Oh, that's interesting to know. Yeah, I'm doing it, buddy. They haven't considered a goal yet, man. Also, Solis finally got off the mark. Obviously, he's got three assists prior to the game.

2:22He's finally scored. So that's a road to 15 GA this season, I've been called. And also a video came out and I'm now cancelled. Did you say 30? 15 goals, 15 assists, I think it was, yeah. So 30 GA. You're an idiot. Isn't it crazy that Man United beat Man City as well? What we do first. We've got fun stuff today, guys. So starting off, we're going to do today, the segment is the most underrated player at every Premier League club. Yeah. Yeah, well, we have new viewers. So we go in table order, yeah? So Coventry first. Yes, I've done table order. It's just easier to write out, isn't it? You've got the teams, you're fine.

2:54You're fine. Alphabetically. Yeah, that's fine. I can read. Well, as we have got to go out, well, table have changed. Yeah, but right now we've done it like this. So deal with it. We have got the EFL expert on the show Thanks a bunch guys So let's start with Bobby Trey I don't know any of these boys anymore So you go first Me for Kov Bobby Thomas Yes Yes Yes Predator 14 Yes Come on Yes Oh yeah He's Bobby Thomas underrated though No rules bro No rules He's not one of their best players I think he's started He was He was last year He's not one of the best players at all Yeah he was last year But that makes him want it worse now I've gone to Silva Papt him You papped him So he gets no plaudits I think he's really solid I've gone for Karl Rush Rushforth Their best player Well done No but I think he's underrated In terms of What is he 25 And 22 million Best player I actually think he could get Into the England squad In the next year or two I don't Yeah probably will You're trying to be like Oh look at Fear Doesn't know anything Fucking Mo more than you I'm Mo more than you I'm Mo more than you I think he's going to be In the England squad In the next couple of years But is he underrated He's underrated.

4:02People don't realise how good he is. What? Because you don't know how good he is. He's underrated. No, I don't think people know how good he is. He won their player of the year last year. I still think he's underrated. He's not going to get called England shouts right now, but I think he will be. It's tough to displace Trafford, though, isn't it? No, not first choice, but he'll be the England squad. He'll be the England set-up. Fair enough. Maybe at some point. Yeah, I kind of hear it. But he is the best player. Yeah, I know. But I still think he's underrated. You pick their best player. I still think he's underrated.

4:29I've gone for Haaland for Man City. He could be underrated. Because I think he's going to have got 60 goals. That's actually underrated, to be fair. Okay. Well, Fulham. Well, you haven't said your player. I said De Silva. Yeah. Smelly. Fulham. I've got to... Do the same name every year? No, no. I think I have. It's just true, though. I had Burger King, but I've gone with Burger. Oh, what? So you have gone with Burger? Yeah. Oh, Josh King. Oh, right, yeah. Where does it start for him now? No, he's on the bench of a day. I've gone Castagne. Oh, interesting. He just plays every week. He's solid. And he's just like, I don't think they have any underrated players.

5:12I looked at the Fulham team. I looked at a lot of teams. I've gone in Wobble. I still think he's underrated. You look at a career. Yeah, I don't mind that. His career is just impeccable. He's solid enough, isn't he? He's just so solid. He's just always like... And he's now moved to a deeper role. He's a good player. He's a good player. He used to be a flying winger. Do you know what I mean? And he's still playing every game. Right, so there's... With that suggestion, you can't actually argue with Wobbe's not. He's just a good player. Right, Spurs, I have gone... Oh, God. I've gone Dubravka, because he should be starting, because Kinkski is shit.

5:50I don't mind that. Oh, interesting. He is rubbish. He's now at the club, yeah. Dubravka should be starting for Spurs, and it'll be good for my FPL. you've got Dubravka in your FPL yeah second keeper he's a great pick he doesn't play he should be he doesn't play yeah but if he's a four minute playing keeper at some point but he's not a playing keeper no I know but he will be he will be he's going to influence deserve it Kings is going to keep playing isn't he Roberto he's not going to start over Kingsky is he no I think within a few games they might because Kingsky's that bad I'll take that bet I don't want to bet on it why not for any way your mouth is I don't want to bet on it I'm not that comfortable Have you gone, McHale?

6:27Oh, Tonali. Oh, no. What? No, because you know what it is. That's the opposite. I listened to this slop last week, Dave. He's dog shit slop. I listened to Best Joint World on Drive Down last week, and everybody's giving him slack, and he doesn't deserve it. Yeah, but don't listen to us. We're idiots. No, but he's underrated compared to yours. He's overrated. No way. £100 million. Does he decide that? No, but it still matters, doesn't it? No. His performance, he hasn't been ground. He's gone to a worse team. He's going to look worse for now. You think Spurs are worse? Spurs are worse. Spurs are worse.

7:00He's not got Bruno G. Why is he underrated though? Because of you three. Saying that he's crap. He is what he is. He's not crap. No, he's not crap. No, you know what it is. Everybody overrates Bruno Gimera as well. That's what it is. Ooh. And that's the truth. That is a separate point. And that is the truth. But that in turn underrates Tenali. Can he be underrated when within the last year people were comparing him to Bruno G and Declan Rice? Yeah, but now everybody's saying he's crap. Yeah. I don't even know if that's true because both of you had him in the top five transfer. Yeah, that's true.

7:29Yeah, but then last week you all said he was crap. He was crap last week. No, oh yeah. I'm still saying Tonali. Hey, and that's why you're tuning to the pyramid guys for a ball knowledge. On the Tonali thing though, is there, like, he's obviously got, there is a player there. Yeah, he's a quality player. But why is it not working? Is it just because Spurs are generally... Yeah, he played alright the weekend. There's been a bit of an overreaction to like, he was poor the week before but he played alright the weekend. Which is the system as well. He'll be fine. Once they get a settled team, he's a good player.

7:56Can you see him controlling the game for Spurs? That's not his role. No, he's not. That's not his game. He's more like a runner. Bruno G was the controller. He was like the legs. Could he be? Yeah. Tottenham is chaos, so he's not going to have the same set position as somebody like Newcastle. Who have you gone for? I went Ben Tankour. I don't mind it. But, I mean, I found it really hard to pick a player. So did I. So did I. I went Bergbauer. All the ones that probably are underrated have been injured for like 10 years. I think he's all right. Bergvau? I think Bergvau's a good player. What? He was shocking against Brentford.

8:27He gets overrun all the time. He's like, what, 20 years old? He's so ill-disciplined. He runs all over the shop. I think he's got proper talent. That's why he's underrated. Look, you don't rate him. I do rate him. You do rate him? I do rate him, but he's all right. He's decent. He can't even get in a team at the minute. Exactly. Underrated by Bergvau. That's a joke pick. It's not a joke pick. Dubravka should be starting. What about an outfield? Therefore, he's underrated. I don't have one. I don't think they've got an underrated player Bovo should be starting I mean I thought Kudu's role no he shouldn't not the way he should that's what I mean I've really struggled with Spurs but yeah Aston Villa this is hard I've gone early and I've gone Suzuki I think he'll be a top 5 keeper in the league I think he's unbelievable I don't know if he's underrated people realise how good he was at the World Cup as well but I don't think people will consider him a top 5 keeper now even though he probably couldn't that's fair I like the theories there I've gone with Nicholas Jackson you're weirdly You love him so much.

9:21I think he's a real... He is the exact same as Watkins. He'll run defenders ragged. He'll get in good positions. He'll create chances. He just won't finish them all. He's a one in four, isn't he? But I think he'll be a really good fit for Villa. He's actually a freak in terms of he finishes harder chances. And also, if you look at his goal record... He scores goals we don't think about. His goal record's good, man. Jackson scores goals wherever he goes. He actually does. He's the worst person in football. I do know that for a fact. The worst person in football. A horrible bloke. Oh, really? Word on the grapevine.

9:51Yeah, a strong word on the grapevine. 11-34 for Bayern last year. When they weren't starting. Look at these last two seasons in the Premier League for Chelsea. You've got like 13 and 15, was it? 10 goals in the Premier League. Okay, 10. And then what was the season before? Like at Villa, has it? 14. What's he going to do at Villa this year? What's a good season? Villa have been better than Chelsea in them seasons. Yeah, but I'm saying now, what's he going to do now? How many goals will he get? I think he'll get double figures this year. So is that 10 or 20? No, he'll get in the teens. He'll get more than Calvert-Lewin.

10:25Oh, so he'll get in the teens. You haven't answered the question. Okay, I'm thinking. He'll get 15 goals in the Prem. Less than Calvert-Lewin? No. Because he's not going to get 18. Fucking Calvert-Lewin? Jesus. Who gets more goals? Calvert-Lewin or Nicholas Jackson? Yeah, 100 pound bet. Yeah, that's a good... 100 pound bet. We're back! I've gone for Matty Cash. Barring that People rate him I feel like People always No no no I feel like a year or two ago That would be a great shout But now it's Yeah And he still starts every week The Villa fans don't actually Rate him that early There you go Underrated So whatever You can just change it Can't you That's how we're going to go So for some of them It's how I underrate them And for the others It's how the club Whatever way you want to spin it We're all real flopping Wait wait Wait Premier League goals Prem goals Prem goals yeah Yeah come on They're your There's no European obligations for Cavalier.

11:22I had a really good bet with Ben from Generation Football. As soon as Alonso joined, he gave me 20-1 on Chelsea winning the league and I had£100 with him. So you're winning. I'm going to win£2 ,000. Wait, he's better against his own club? Yeah, because he said, I don't mind giving two grand away if it means we win the league. Oh, that's fair. Oh, I thought you meant other way around. Oh, yeah, I'm going to say. Well, what happens if... But yeah, we digress. If you want to have a bet, go and download Dabble. Use the coach pitch side. That's true. Who's your last name? I've got Hemmings. That young wind.

11:53He looks good. He does look good. He's getting slandered, but he's the only one who made a chance. That was a great pass as well from Suzuki. It's a bit early. I said Suzuki, so I can't knock him. I've seen Suzuki during the World Cup. Some of them are hard. They've made that many changes. He's tough. He looked good in the game against PSG as well. Hemmings looked good. He looked really good. Are you going down on loan? I thought you were going to do. I doubt it. now, but I thought they were going to say DeMars. Forrest. I've gone boring and you're all going to get it. I've gone Williams. I've gone Williams as well.

12:24I just think he's so fucking good. He's versatile. Left back, right back. He started well actually. I like McAtee. He didn't really play though, did he last year? No, he will be slashing. Yeah, but I don't mind that. Could McAtee go on to sort of become the player he was sort of meant to be when he left City? The thing with that is, would City let him go? Yeah, you go to Forrest for a reason. They let Parma go. To Chelsea for 50. Do you know what I mean? Also, City aren't afraid to let people go there, remember? True, but if you drop into Forest, I think you're not... I think he's a good player.

12:53I do think he's a good player. But that's his level. But to answer your question, no, I don't think he'll probably be a top, top player. But I might be wrong. Hopefully he proves me wrong. Hopefully he does. Because he's English, isn't he? He is English, yeah. Hopefully he wins the World Cup for us. Hooray! Bournemouth. There is one answer here. Yes. He was like their best player last year. Tavenir is the most underrated player in the Premier League he's so good man he gets no applauded I was going to put Tavenir but then I thought it was just so obvious that it's Tavenir no because Ray and Krupe Clive scores three penalties and everyone goes Alex Scott gets all the applauded Tavenir gets no applauded and he pays week in week out and he always always he's creating chances or scoring goals I love him well I agree with Tavenir but I actually I thought that was just so obvious I went for Petrovic yeah I don't mind that he was good last year for them actually I think he's really good I think Chelsea are probably a bit annoyed that they let him go from last season with Sanchez yeah seriously what are you laughing about?

13:50I'm laughing about the contradiction between it's obvious I'll say it what it would be and then going I didn't want to say it because it's just so funny yeah but certain like Fulham don't really have like someone blaring who can stand out whereas I do think Petri is also it's just funny because eventually all of us will contradict the reason from a previous pick and that's pitch side certain clubs have more options though don't they yeah absolutely if I say sorry For what? You contradicted yourself and you want me to apologise? No, because certain teams have different variants. Okay. Ipswich. Go on, AFL.

14:20Diop. They've brought so many new lads in. We can't say all about the forward line. I've got Nunes. Darwin Nunes. Is he even going to play for him, though? That's what I mean. I think he should be, though. I think he's really good. He's all right. I don't know about any other forward lines. I went for Palacios. Yeah, I struggled with Ipswich. And also, he's bringing serious experience from Leverkusen. Yeah. I think he'll be a really valuable player. I struggle with it just because the players who are there, like O'Shea, Davis, they're not under... But the defence is crap. I went Lukic. Yeah, I nearly went him.

14:55Just a solid Premier League midfielder, ain't I? They've played a lot as well. Crystal Palace. It's obvious, isn't it? Oh, not Mitchell. It's Mitchell. Oh, and JD Campbell. He's one of the best players again. I went Richard. Every year. Every year. I'm going to change my player. He gets chatted shit on every year and I will defend him for the day I die. No, he doesn't get chatted shit on. He's one of the only people that hasn't been on fire. By the way, you're only saying this because he scored fucking two. You wouldn't say that two weeks ago. You wouldn't have picked him if you didn't score two.

15:23Yes, I think I picked him last year as well. I love him. I think he's brilliant. Yeah, mine's Richard. I think Richard's is probably their best defender. That's a chat GPT answer that one. What? Richard? Richard. Because I looked and that's what it said. I've gone commander. I'm going Commando No, no, no, no, no, no, no The USA Men's International World Cup Go through the history Oh, he's deleted his history Oh, but it's all this chuffing pyramid stuff Yeah You cheating rat You're a runt Sorry, how have you picked that? By using what? I went on flashcard.com But then you just said you checked chat GBT No, I got my girlfriend to do it on track Oh, yeah, right, well done, buddy I went Commando So you've just fucked yourself over.

16:07But I didn't pick the one that it gave me, so I've still got my own brain. I picked one off my head, not even Googling it. Last year, I was Chris Richards. This year, I've evolved. I think it's J.D. Cambo. He is decent, to be fair. Although, Commander's not underrated. He's like their best player. What? Even Warton are like their best player. Thomas will 100 % say he's like the best player. Commander's class. Have you really learned Chris Richards? Yeah, I know about that. You can and Larry if you want. I don't care. Is he their best centre-half? You just said Cambo is? No, I didn't. You just said it.

16:40I said I've evolved. I think Jadie Cambo is their most underrated. I'm better than you. I think he's now their most underrated centre-half. Chris Richards is their best centre-half. Chris Richards is now their best. World Cup international renowned defender. Yeah, I think he's underrated. Mate, he was like one of USA's best men's national side players. Oh, yeah, and they did really well. Got a group. Boy. Right, moving on. Sunderland. Siddiqui. Siddiqui. Jackie gets all the applaudits. Siddiqui does get a load of the applaudits as well. He did last year. Mukhele. Mukhele's not on the rate. Everyone gets a lot of FPL points.

17:15Mukhele, everyone rates. He didn't say that. You were gonna. You were thinking it. What was he gonna say? Gets loads of FPL points. He didn't say that. I said, gets loads of attention and you said... Yeah, because of you, because you'd just gone FPL. No, and you said FPL points, so that's on your brain. That is actually projection. Well, Mukhele's not even underrated. I don't think Siddiqui is He's one at best 10 Defenders in division Who? Defenders in general Just defenders in general Centre back slash right back He's one at best 10 Comfortably in division Is he best right back Best centre back What is he?

17:45What are you saying? I think he's their best centre back And the best right back Well because of that I've actually gone Ballard So I didn't think he'd be playing for him I didn't think he was good I didn't think Ballard would be good No I mean last year I didn't think he was good enough For the step up And he actually was Yeah we're good for him last year So yeah I think Ballard Man United you're going to hate mine oh and Lamons people are saying no because people are saying now like oh they've finally got a keeper who's doing it yeah I think yeah he's not underrated wrong wrong you're going to hate mine I'm a big fan of this guy Dorgue love him oh he's so bad he's so mental he's caused his chaos but he's definitely a left wing he caused his chaos for his own team I love it I love it I think he's brilliant did you watch him against Hall yeah I fucking love it yeah he's pony one poor game did you watch Solace against It was crap last year as well.

18:32Yeah. Didn't he? And now he's looked great again. Dog has never been good for United. Mate, he went through, he had a purple patch last year. Yeah, he scored a screen on his arsehole. Wow. He had a purple and shouldn't have counted as well. I've gone with Heaven. I think he's their best centre-half. Ooh, you think Heaven's better than Martinez and Maguire? I think Aidan Heaven's Man United's best centre-half. Didn't it? I don't think he is. I think Heaven's better. They're all crap. Heaven's not, man. Heaven's really good. It's shit versus garbage. Heaven's good, man. Just to play devil's advocate here,

19:00World Cup winning Martinez. Yep. Comfortably, yeah. I think I would agree with that, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here. He is cool. That's one of the bingo for today. I've gone Shaw. Oh, here we go. Luke Shaw. You couldn't say anything. Yeah. Is he not underrated? Do people rate him? Do people rate Shaw? To be fair, people keep saying Man United need a new left back. I think a new left back? They need a new left back, don't they? How do you think he's at that level? Do you reckon? The same level. You think he's still a Champions League level left back here? 2021 level still I think I think Shaw's level He put a great cross to Sesko He did That is very true Yeah but what he's surrounded with again True No yeah maybe I just think he has dropped a level Like he's been there since 2012 He's signed in the same window As Diego Costa That's alright Thanks Great being He comes under so much scrutiny That people think He's actually more shit Yeah Next up Brighton Who you could pick anyone Kadio Gluol went No No accept him No don't mind that That is FPL standard that isn't it Kadiyoglu, he plays all the time.

20:00No, he doesn't get... Am I thinking of right guy? You're thinking of De Kuyper. Yeah. Sorry, man. Different player. Yeah. Kadiyoglu plays left and right, to be fair. Yeah, he's decent. De Kuyper is class. I went AR-E. I liked him in the World Cup. You're not going to like what I'm about to set you. I actually do rate him. I think he's good. What? That is another chat GPT answer. I'm being dead this year. Oh, shit. I'm going to get it up. Here we go again. I'm going to prove it now. Here we go again. And you know it is. I just saw that What do you mean I know it is? I saw that little glimmer in your eye then you know what you're doing It's such a weird Is it chat is he born on it?

20:32He does this all the time and I'm like I get him to check my history You're writing Ayari Yeah but you've got someone else to do it you'll pay someone else to do it Ayari's on there I'm going to get Chris and Mike on my Reverend one then Ayari Chris Richards Can I just say I just sat there for the last 10 minutes and just done them What do you type in to get this stuff out of interest? I wouldn't know I've got my girlfriend to do it I didn't even do it So the thing You're accusing me of doing what you've done. I've seen him and thought, well, I already shit. Why would I pick him? Do you not think it might be a coincidence?

21:01No, because that would make my life a lot easier. I really didn't. You did. That would make my life easier if I could do that. You did. I've gone for Yalcou. Yeah, I think he's class. Yeah, I like that. I know people are rating him at the moment, but I think he could do that Brighton thing where he'd just go boom. Yeah, probably will. I'll probably sell him 100 million to Chelsea. Is he a 10? I don't know. He can play wherever he fucking wants. I think he can play across the three. I feel like they've just recreated Henshwood again, right? Kind of. I nearly went for him, but I think he's rated now, and he ensured.

21:33Matt, he was a full-back as well, wasn't he? Ruta. I still quite like him. Another James Milner. Yeah. Carl's gone Ruta. I don't mind that. Who? Ruta. I don't mind that. I still think he's good enough. The goals he scores are normally really good. Yeah, exactly. And he comes from the championship. so yeah Leeds and it's not only because of his TikTok we've gone Anton Stack is he under he's their best player he's Leeds best player what about Ampadu or no Stack as in like Ampadu's probably Stack's their best player he's the most arguably most important but the best player he's underrated I think I went James Justin he gets put everywhere across that back line and does the job I went Bogle he's one of the best I really write Bogle he's very good he doesn't get much applauded so I just think That's the way I looked at it.

22:24I think that's a boring answer. In a full strength... What? I'm sorry, what did chat GPT say? Let me just check. Yeah, who did they say? In a full strength Leeds line-up, does he... Who would be the brilliant right back out? He starts. But would not James Justin start? Bogle starts. Do you think? They love him, yeah. Bogle, 100%. He was brilliant for him last year as well. Are you Goodmanson? I've got Goodmanson. I don't mind that. Good shout. He's so good. Good shout. I think he's class. How class? Don't like him, though. Why not? One of Leeds' best players. He thinks they have a rivalry with Barnsley.

22:55But he's underrated. Yeah, but you can be right, can't you? I can be right. You picked the actual best player who everyone says is their best player. What about Calvert-Lewin? Nobody says he's their best player. What about Harry Wilson? He's been rubbish in system. He hasn't been good. Leeds fans will definitely say Stacks is their best player. Ampadu is arguably the most important. Or the new centre-half. Yeah, he's very good at all. Ampadu is... Oh, Murahemovich. He's quality. Yeah, have you checked out Stax TikToks yet? They're class. You could argue all the centre-backs, to be fair, if you wanted to.

23:26Yeah. Like Bijou, Rodon when he's fit. Yeah, Rodon's out now. Rodon's a good shout-out for underrated, actually. He's good, Rodon. They're going to miss him. That's a long-time injury, that. Well, Alvedi's filling in, isn't he? Yeah. Everton. I couldn't pick one, so I went with Drewsbrill. I wanted to do that. Just so I think he's too good for them. Yeah, that's fair. That's literally it. none of them are underrated I did mine based on England call ups and I went James Garner yeah I mean and that's also just the same as last year it is but realistically who are you going to pick for Everton I think they're all fairly rated though yeah Granfrey's probably the only one maybe with a ceiling who could mate I actually went Garner and Tarkowski yeah Tarkowski's not underrated I think he might be but he plays every single game are you talking about in terms of like England call ups because he's club captain and everyone knows that he's one of the most...

24:18But people don't talk about him as one of the best centre-halves in the league, but he probably is. He's not. No, he probably is. Well, if you think that, then yeah, he's underrated because he's not. He probably is. Well, we'll see on your list later. Who's better, him or Maguire? Tarkovsky. There you go, then. It depends. I think probably Maguire, actually, and a better team. But you said Tarkovsky, though. Tarkovsky couldn't play... Do you see what I mean? Tarkovsky couldn't play for Man United. He can't pass the ball. Can Maguire? Nah. Yeah, Maguire's really good on the ball. I don't know anymore.

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24:44Who's better, De Litt or Tocoski? De Litt. De Litt's better than Tocoski, I think. Who's better, Maguire or De Litt? But Tocoski's always available. Tocoski's always available. That's a big thing. Don't say it. What's the best ability? Availability. And I nailed it. I said the right line. What's the best availability? Ability. Newcastle. Oh, it's obviously. Yeah, I went Harvey. Is that for everyone? Harvey Barnes. It's obviously. It's Harvey Barnes. I think he's under a good Barnes. I've gone Barnes. I wanted to put Horn a check in as well, but I think it's just a little too early. Barnes comes up with so many crucial goals.

25:18He does, man. I think he's all-round play. He's quite average, but Barnes always... Now Gordon's left. He's finally going to prosper on that left wing. He's finally going to blossom like a flower. Depends if Torre starts getting a run. Barnes will be there. Surely you can't displace Harvey Barnes in the team if he's playing like that. But they've just spent nearly 50 million on that Torre. Barnes was 40. Yeah, a while ago, though. Oh, my God. Barnes is good, man. He is good. We're going Barnes, will you? I'm going Hall still. for the same reason as you and Jules Brio is the best player by a mile so how's he underrated?

25:46he shouldn't be there but he's going to move for like 60 mil I think he's best left back in the league I'd put it that way so he's underrated but he's the best left back in the league you bet at Calafiore? he's not a left back what? yes he is Calafiore's basically a striker exactly they don't have a system Arsenal do they? or in formation so you think the best left back in the league is underrated? yeah

26:08Lewis in your mouth all over again you fit in well here he fits in well who would have said Eddie Howe no I think he'd have gone Nico Gonzalez or Miley or Miley yeah also the most important player yeah probably Miley yeah Liverpool Cody Gakpo Cody Gakpo oh that's obvious again don't everybody know that now no Liverpool fans hate him people don't want him to start and he's obviously just really do you remember last year when I know it's Cal Ferrezi but he was going mad like Gakpo's so shit a lot of the pundits were saying and he's not good enough as well. That's what I mean. Gak was so important for them.

26:44Who have you gone? I like Munoz, that right winger, that young one. Yeah, he is good. He looks good. Underrated though? Direct. Everything you say. Got a question. I don't mind that. It's an early shout. I like it. I think Gak was being the best player so far. Maybe now. I've never seen him play before this. Maybe now. Top five nines in the league, wouldn't you? Is that because standard is that bad though? Is Zach's not underrated? Is Van Dijk underrated? No. No. I don't want to say so yet What's that got to do with it? I was just asking Oh sorry Because everyone thinks he's like Washed No he's not But he's not washed Oh okay I get what you're saying Yeah no yeah Maybe then now Now is he?

27:21Maybe Maybe We'll see when we do another list later We're just full of lists today Oh it's so easy Yeah it's Dam's God No I want Jan out No Dam's God Incorrect incorrect Jensen Half correct Thanks a lot I've gone loose potter how's that half correct because it's him or Janssen for sure Keane you think it's Keane what Keane Lewis Potter oh yeah sorry I was like you think Aguero now the Bodger's thing no they love him they'll find a way to get him in dodgy for the pen though who's that yeah but have you ever met a Red Cross fan Keith Andrews how do you know that because I know him he scored the fifth we should start doing this Tommy anytime he says I follow a lot of people who from each club I can't name the exact Who's the Brentford fans you follow?

28:09And I just think he's so important. The fact they've put him back to left-back when he was a left-wing. He's one of them players. He's a bit like Trey Hulme for Sunderland. Very media trained right here. They always... I'm answering it. It's a bit like Trey Hulme for Sunderland. Everyone's like, oh no, now they've got these players, they're going to drop him. I appreciate that. Reggie will repraise him every week. Lewis Potter's going to play. He's still going to play. I can't remember. You can literally play him anywhere so he's on the pitch, yeah. I wouldn't even be surprised if it takes you for a while to get into the team over him because he's been that good.

28:42Nah. Honestly? Couple of weak marks. Mate, moving forward. I don't know. He's class, man. He'll rotate with, like, Sharda and Itara shortly. But the answer, you are right, is Jensen. Thanks, mate. Get in. I think it's Dam's guard. I love Jensen. He's quality number 10. We're obvious, that one, as well. My issue with that is, like, Dam's guard just gets in ahead of him in the 10th. I don't know. Underrated. I don't know. We'll see. we'll see if Sangara is playing then Dam's guys are number 10 yeah I I prefer Janssen you under a Dam's guy therefore mine is correct what do you get the reason why we've had this discussion because he's got long hair Chelsea Chelsea Jarrah Hattie I don't mind that he's really good actually I've gone Hachimpong similar vibe I think he's quality I'll see him I've gone Fafana oh no he's fucking poo he's rubbish they're all shit no they're not Chelsea Burn hates that one they're all shit how bad is that Every Chelsea defender's wanked.

29:38No, they're not. For Fauna. For Fauna's the worst. Every defender for Chelsea's shit. Welcome to Pitchside, Callum Fowler. Every Chelsea defender is shit. They're all wanked. You have to have one, stinker. Oh, my God. No, that would be... This podcast's shit. Sorry, I didn't mean that. For Fauna is rubbish. And they're all rubbish. No, they're not. Hachim Pong's really good. Hachim's really good. They're not really good. Colwell's good. McCall's good. For Fauna. They're not really good. Poo! Really bad No I said Pedro Neto I think there's too much Plaudits on Morgan Palmer And Jao Pedro And he sort of goes You're killing yourself here By knowing all the Chat GPT answers And also Pedro Neto's playing Out of position And he's I know he can't Defend But he's He's a good job Really For example Estaval How's he really Going to get in the team Oh they'll find a way introducing a Beko state of mind Mum, I need my PE kit washed, dried and ready to go sweetie Mum, I spilt down my top No problem, I'll pop a quick wash on Busy homes put everything to the test that's why at Beko we stress test all our appliances to the extreme so you can be stress free That's a Beko state of mind Will they?

31:04Estival I like it I like it Oh no, that's not how he goes Fully fit I don't think Neto's underrated I think he's fairly right He's just solid Okay, we'll agree to disagree Hull, there's obviously one answer here It's not McBurnie No, but that would be a great shout It's not McBurnie I think it's Giles I think it's Giles Yeah I've gone Egan Yes That's EFL knowledge That is heritage. Absolute heritage. You think clean sheets from Egan? I said EFL knowledge. Do you know what the EFL is? Yeah, the English Football League. Good boy. Yeah, I think it's Egan. Not a fancy name, not a fancy looking player.

31:44He's just... He's just gets loads of points, loads of DEFCON as well. Clean sheets. Baggy boy. Yeah, he just struggles to stay fit, but he is class when he's on it. Where did they get that Mendy from? Noble Mendy? No idea. Noble, his first name's Noble. Yeah. He's a noble man. Nobleman Yeah the answer's Egan I don't think it's Giles Just because you put one good cross in lads Come on They were trying to get rid of him Not anymore though That's underrated You've just given us a fucking free point there I don't think Giles will be starting going forward He will Well when he keeps doing that I bet he starts against Chelsea He'll get ram ragged man Giles will get ram ragged against some good weekend We shall see when Hull have actually beaten Chelsea You reckon?

32:25Yep I'll give you the draw How much do you want to bet on it? I don't. Just like you didn't want to bet with me earlier. Just like you didn't want to bet with me earlier. What was that bet? I'll take that if you take that. I can't remember. What was the bet? I don't know. You have a good memory. Shoot yourself. Yeah, but I'm not listening to everybody's bets. Wait, you don't listen to what we're saying? That's rude. I'm not. I'm listening to people's bets down. You're rude. Arsenal. Have I come out? Say sorry. Yeah, say sorry. Apologise to us. How come I've come out there? They're the worst. I've got two.

32:51Who? No, you can't have two. How many times did we do this? Who did you say? Just say one. Who did you say? I've gone Ben White. Oh, Ben White. And we were on Arsenal. I think he's one of the best right-backs in the league. Ben White. But he's not your starting right-back, is he? Yeah, and he still gets crucified. Saliba Gabriel and Calafiore. I just think he gets... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. I don't think you have many underrated players. Everyone knows how good your players are, so... Habits? I don't mind that one bit. He's still really good. I like that. He gets crucified. Yeah, I actually think that's a fair shout.

33:20He's actually class. I nearly went to Herdegard, but then I'd be having to get myself. Not after today. He went white as well. Can I ask a question on Lewis Skelly in centre mid? Is he underrated? Maybe. Do you know what I mean? He's alright, isn't he? Well, if you're saying he's alright, then he's underrated. I don't think he's at top, top level yet. He is. Top dollar. He's quality in the Champions League final. Specifically discussing Lewis Skelly in the midfield position, I would say so, yeah. But you think he... You said he was the best left back in the world. As an individual. I said at the time.

33:54No, no, no. You said he was the best left back in the world. He made Real Madrid his bitch. Say that again in English? He's rubbing off on me. He made Real Madrid his bitch. He's never here. That's classism. Yeah. Because I'm a Northern monkey. That's what it is. Horrible. You know, he and his family have a Puyela day every year. Also, just because we're not Spanish. Exactly. But we have Spanish relatives. Why are you going red? Because I'll answer your question about the classism thing, actually. Just because you're from the north, it shouldn't affect what class you are. Yeah, but... But A, that wasn't a question.

34:26There you go. He's from Barnsley. That's a working class town. Yeah, but I bet there's high class people in Barnsley. What? Who? I don't know. Just like you can't name the Brentford. Rhys Cleary. Rhys Cleary. Who's that? Plays from... Is he high class? No. He's an Albion legend. He's a buggy boy. And then finally Man City. Kusinov? I went Kusinov as well. Everyone thought he was dog shit when he made his debut and actually he's doing a really good job. Are you keeping Nunes out of the team? I actually think, hot take, I think he's their best centre-half. I don't know. Over Gehi? Yep. You think Kusinov's better than Gehi?

35:07Yeah. And Diaz? Definitely Diaz. I think it should be him and Gehi playing centre-half. It will be for the future. He's not better than Diaz. He's not better than Diaz. Fucking is, mate. Sorry. Ruben Diaz he's wank he's wank where's this Ruben Diaz hate come from he's actually just a great defender oh I know what he is oh sorry it's chat GPT I don't think it were that one I can't remember to be honest I've gone Gavardio here we go underrated he is underrated yeah is that one of the best set and half full backs in the league I think he's second best behind Hall I think so second best left back behind Hall you can't consider Gavardio as a centre half now can you Pretty cool player there still He's had to pick for topside Who's better as a centre-back slash full-back defender Michele or Gavardio?

35:56Gavardio Just for now Just for now Right well there we have it We nailed that by the way Let us know in the comments if you agree or disagree And let us know if you think Reeve got them all wrong Well if you're a fan of the club Well let us know if Fafana's underrated I think you took a lot of hours there Like, subscribe, comment Right, moving on. We are now ranking our top 10 centre-backs in the Premier League. The Premier League. I'm going first because you're going to be really annoyed. It's eating your beady eyes. Well, as the resident... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should be buying the money here.

36:31Because you're still trying to go pro, aren't you? Yeah, of course. I'm only 31. Don't lie. 32. Don't lie. Yeah, come on. Tell the truth. I'm 32, guys. You're 34. In 10th, I have got Diaz. You're lucky to be in the top 10, son. Do you genuinely think that? Yeah. You don't think he's higher? No. Really? Yeah. I've never hated Diaz ever. I think he's really susceptible. Stone's Eldizand. Yeah. Yeah, Johnny boy. Wasn't Diaz like the biggest? I had John Eldizand. No, I've gone early. I don't care. I've gone early. Not bothered. I've gone early, but I really, truly believe it from what I've seen. Muharemovic.

37:14Bet that's very early. That's really early. So you've seen three games and you think he's better than Diaz? And in the World Cup. I know he got sent off, but... He's close. What did he say? I don't have him! Mate, I got 30... He knows he gets them! Yes! He knows he gets them! No, you just said it! Do you know how shit my team is? I wish I did have him! Bring him in, mate. Bring him in. Yeah. No, corn! I'm fucked. Mate, I'm fucked. Eighth, ciao. Yeah? Seventh, Lacroix. Do you think Lacroix's better than Chow? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Well, I obviously don't, so there we go. Sixth, Konza. Fifth, Gehi. Fourth, Kusinov.

37:59What? I think Kusinov is top level. I really do. I think he's his best centre-half. I think he's unbelievable. He's not better than Gehi? I think he is. You're wrong. He's bigger. He's faster. I think he's just a better centre-half. I'm missing some at William, then. I'm not seeing what you're seeing there. Kusinov's quality, mate. He's good. He's probably the fastest centre-half in the league. He's not faster than Van der Ven, is he? No. You don't count. Spurs are shit. Spurs are back! Yeah, Kuzunov then. Third, Gabriel. What? Second, Van Dijk. First, Saliba. Okay, right. We'll get into it. I don't mind it.

38:38No, I think both the Arsenal boys are better than Van Dijk now. I don't think so. I think... Not yet. I think you see it when... I agree, but I don't argue it. Well, you know, you disagree, but you don't argue it. I agree with you, but I don't argue it. I think it's a toss-up. I think Saliba's the best, and then you could argue that Van Dijk and Gabriel were on the side. I know it's a bit of a stupid argument because, obviously, it's hypothetical. I don't think Gabriel could hold people's hands the way Van Dijk does for Liverpool. I think he can. Around that shit. He absolutely can. Because Saliba's not in the team.

39:10I know, but look who comes in, Konza. Mosquera. Yeah, he was a solid centre-half. and not even that, the full-backs and the goalie. Van Dijk, the last few years, had nothing. And he has protection in front of him. Robertson. He had Trent as well. How long were we going back? I was saying in the last few years. He's been arguable. He's the best leader of the three you've mentioned, but I think he's third in the trio. I agree. But he's also had Canate, who apparently is the second coming of Jesus. He made Canate look better than he was. He made Matip look better than he was. So you're telling me you overrated Canate?

39:43Probably. No, he went to Real Madrid. He can't be that bad. You don't think both the Arsenal boys... Well, there you go. He can't be that bad. No, I think Saliba does more than Gabriel. He's got all this pile of shit, but Canate's gone to fucking Real Madrid. Can't be that pile of shit. I didn't say he was shit. You said Van Dyke has been in the last couple of years if he's surrounded by a pile of shit. Theo, you brought Canate up, not me. That's my point. You said Van Dyke has been surrounded by a pile of shit last couple of years. That includes Canate. Yeah, Canate last season was terrible, wasn't he?

40:10Do you think he's shit? No. So he's not been surrounded by a pile of shit? But he was last season. Right. You can differentiate. I don't know. Anyone who plays XA Van Dijk gets elevated because of him and you see it when they're not with him or not playing with him. That's true. I think so. Yeah, but that applies to the other two as well. I don't think it's true. We saw it last year when Gabriel was out. Saliba struggled a little bit and vice versa. They're together. They're the best centre-half duo in the world. Yeah, but the argument there is only because they were brand new into coming to the team.

40:38Who? So? The other centre-backs. If you've seen this year, there's no difference if Saliba not playing. Because you've got one of the best centre-halves in the league from Villa. Muscara? Yeah, Muscara's just a solid centre-half, isn't it? But again, it's not just about the partner. It's the full-backs, it's the goal, it's the protection in front. You could play centre-half for Arsenal. You're that good. I appreciate that. And you're that good. I just still think that if I was picking a team, I'd pick Van Dijk over Gabriel. I just would. I think it's close. It's just my opinion, guys. Hey, it's just football guys.

41:11Calm down. Your opinion's wrong, but I don't disagree. What? Mate, that makes sense. So it is. I understand it, and I think over time you probably are correct, but currently I just think the two Arsenal boys are better. That's absolutely fair, and probably an opinion that most have. A few names you missed out there, I thought. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Go on then. Me? We're going round, yeah. 10 from Mokiello. Oh, you're stuck to your guns, yeah? I am, 100%. I don't mind it. I think he's the best centre-back on the best right. Does he play more centre-half than right-back now? He's shifting between both.

41:43I think he's naturally a centre-half, but last year he played right-back. I think he's more right-back for him, but he's so good. I've got Diaz in nine. I've got Jacquet for Liverpool in eight. I just haven't seen enough of him. That's so early, isn't it? I just haven't seen enough of him. That doesn't make any sense. I've seen more of that Morevich than him. Has he got the Leeds guy on? Oh, he has. I forgot about that. I mean, I've seen more of him than Jacquet. A few games in one time. I've watched like one or two games with Jacquet. I just don't. I think he's great. the weekend. For both of them, I think they're just too early, that's all.

42:10For the Premier League. I've got Van Heek in seven. Yeah, I like that. Oh, thanks, nice. Cheers, guys. Gavardiel in six. Are you having him as... I'm having him as a centre-half. I'm having him as a centre-half. You're putting full-backs in. Okay. Yeah, why not? It's my lift. You've got two full-backs in your lift. He's naturally centre-half in fairness. Yeah, I know, but he's now a left-back. Cons are five. Gerhi, four. Who? Gerhi. Gerhi. Gerhi. Gerhi. Gerhi. Gerhi. I'm trying to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go on. Van Dyken third, Saliba second, Gabriel top. Oh, interesting. You think Gabriel's better than Saliba?

42:43This is the whole thing of last year. Everyone was like... Gabriel's not better than Saliba. It's because Saliba's better looking than him. That's why people put him... Gabriel's done his hair and done his teeth. He's still not better looking than Saliba. Saliba's gone. Right. Saliba's the best. Obviously, I am the resident centre, basically. You go next. In 10, I got Van de Ven. I think if people underrate any of you, quality. In 9, I got Chao. In 8, I got Ruben Dijs. Van de Ven. Oh, God. He can't defend. Yeah. He bloody can. And he's rapid. Defence first. I'm surprised in seven. Just because he's only played one game for Spurs.

43:10But last season, he's one of the best centre-halves in the league. Sanessi in seven. Oh, God. James Hill had a better season. Mate, it was him and Sanessi. He's so... Sanessi was quite... Sanessi's a fantastic centre-half. Yeah, but you're saying... Is he or not a fantastic centre-half? He's good, but... So he's in my list. But James Hill should be in there ahead of him then. Sanessi's a better centre-half. Oh, you can play for Spurs. They didn't buy him. He was on a free. He still got him though, didn't they? They still signed him. He can't start for him. They signed him. He will do though. He'll probably end up starting over Van Der Ven.

43:41That's why he's left on the list. No, I won't. By the way, not rating Snessy. He's like really bad ball knowledge for you lot. I'm not not rating him, but we do the top 10 centre half. Say out loud you don't rate Snessy. I do rate Snessy, but if you're going to argue about the Bournemouth centre backs, James Hill should be in ahead of him. Snessy was just... He wasn't. Hill was better than him last year. You can still have a better season So I think Sinesi's the better centre half Have you got Van Heek? Yeah Oh nice Number 6 Van Heek Alright Sorry So you've got 3 Spurs centre halves in Yeah it's crazy isn't it At the last Spurs are back They are back Van Heek is class though DC's a bad start Go on carry on No it's not 3 Tottenham centre halves I did Yeah The band of people you got above Diaz man It's crazy Van Heek in 6 5 Konza 4 Gei 3 Van Dijk 2 Gabriel 1 Saliba Saliba's best setback You haven't even got Diaz in?

44:29Yes, I have. He's in eight. Oh, so you've got him two places above me. Wow. Yep. So I actually have Diaz the highest. Shock. Wait, so who are your top three? Van Dijk three, Gabriel two, Saliba one. Saliba's best centre-back in the league. Fuck me. What's the difference between them two? Yeah. Not much. Not much. It's because he's better looking. Saliba's better on the ball. Saliba's more controlled. He's better on the ball. Gabriel can be a bit rash. Saliba's never rash. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's tamed it out. I think if you were to ask forwards who's harder to play against, I think they'd say Saliba.

44:59I don't know about that. Or the Rolls Royce. Who would you say is better at Rio and Vidic? Rio. So he had to come Vidic with that. So that backs up my point then. That still backs me. I love the old threat that Gavin invited. I think Saliba makes the game look easy. And I think players who make the game look easy are just like, it's not easy. I don't think so, but okay. Right. who wants the proper one here we go the right answer he deserves a mention the factually correct top 10 number 10 James Tarkovsky you had a go at me by the way you had an actual go at me for putting Tarkovsky Tarkovsky's not shagging he is he is why didn't you back my putt when I said he's underrated what because I'm rating nice nice I can't disagree with that you think Tarkovsky's better than Sinesi yeah and who you've mentioned I don't mind that Van der Ven I think he's better than Van der Ven.

45:54I'd sooner have James Tarkovsky in my team at centre-back than Van der Ven at Sinesi. You concede less goals. That's mad. Mate, he's defence first. That's fucking great. What are you? Kick and Eddie. Captain every minute of every day. Is he better than Bramfweight? Yeah. Injury record success, so here. Bramfweight would be better than him. Is he better than Mosquera? Yeah. I'd have Tarkovsky over Mosquera. If you had the depth at Arsenal, I think you'd take Tarkovsky. No, it depends. He couldn't play in your team. He can't pass. No, he couldn't play in the team. I don't think so but I still have him as a better centre mate Stev's better than him you're not in the league Elvede who?

46:29for Leeds yeah who did you say? Elvede he's a good centre back he's a good centre half the Swiss guy Swiss centre back Elvede he was good in the World Cup he was good in the World Cup yeah Switzerland in the class exactly he's better than Tarkowski probably he's not he is Pascal Strauch better than Tarkowski he is 100 % no he's not Vuscovic is better than him Yeah, that's true. Oh, that could be argued. I nearly put Voscovici in. You could argue Lewis Dunk is. Okay, Luke, I'm too far. Ninth Van Hecker, eighth Lacroix, seventh Ruben Diaz, criminal that everyone's put him that way. You got him one spot above me.

47:07One spot. You criminal. Out of ten. What is the charge? Say sorry, you're wrong. Stop asking me to say sorry, man. I was in criminal. It's one spot different. So therefore, you are wrong. He should be higher. Yeah, he's done you there. Sixth, Matic Chow. Fifth, Edwin Concer. Fourth, Gehi. Third, Van Dijk. Second, Saliba. And first, Gabriel. No Kusinov. No, man. You've got a better than this Kusinov agenda, bro. It's not an agenda. He's even a leader. Actually, he's better than Tarkowski. Yeah, he is. Well, yeah. We'll give that one. Reeves better than Tarkowski. Jesus. That's so unfair. Disrespect, though.

47:42I'll take it as a compliment. Top ten is crazy for Tarkowski. Is it? Yeah. It's a bit mental. No, it's not. It is. Why? Give me a count of it. Who was better last year? Because Evan concede loads of goals. Just because he gets fucking DEFCON doesn't make him a top... And because he scores a goal. And also because... He'd barely make a top 20 if I did this. Who was better last season, Sinesi or Tarkovsky? Tarkovsky. Oh, that's a roll. That's a roll. No, I don't agree with that. Sinesi was better last season. Sinesi was better than him last year. Oh, man. He was. Each their own. But yeah, there we go.

48:13Let us know who's absolutely strunk it out. Theo's got three sparse players in his list. Yeah, they're back! The Burrs are back, even though they can't keep a clean view. We've all got the unanimous top five, though. I've set the fucking idiot in the corner. I've got Kusin on fourth. You think Kusin's better than Concer? Yes. I think I'm better than Concer.

48:35And he thinks he's better than Gaye. Yeah, that's... What makes you think that he's the best? Wholeheartedly believe that. He's got more presence than Gaye. You're bonkers. Presence, more presence than Gaye. I think Gaye's probably better on the ball. Gahey's got far more presence than Kusinov I don't He's like half his size He's not as athletic as him Is there that much difference in height between them? Shall we check? Half his size I reckon Gahey's what? Let's say I reckon Gahey's 6 '1 and Kusinov's what? 6 '1 as well? 6 '2 Nah he's taller than that It can't be He's gotta be No he's not Please be 6 '3 Gahey's 6 '3 Yeah Nah yeah definitely Okay lads Here we go Kusinov is 186 centimetres 6 '1 So he's the same as fucking Gahey Mark Gahey He's wider Is 182 Yes You said half the height I didn't mean literally He has got way more presence doesn't he Like he's bigger Than Gahey We've just proven it No but you've just He is He's wider He's taller He's faster Let's check their weight He's not wider He's not wider than Mark Gahey Kusinov is Mate he's a tank Kusnov is a tank.

49:47So he's Gehi. Yeah. But he's a smaller tank. Gehi weighs between 78 and 80 kilograms. There's no way they can know their weight. There's no way. Kusnov's 86 kilos. Gotta be. Kusnov weighs 83. Yes! I fucking told you. How does that make someone wider if they're heavier? It doesn't. But he is wider. Get the width. He's heavier. Get the width. Get the width. Phil so my point was right he's got more presence than him I think Gay's probably better on the ball I'll give you that but I also think one on one defender I prefer Kusinov just because of his pace and stuff what's going on here I'm not going mad Kusinov's unbelievable he's not unbelievable he's the better half Contra is better and so is Gay here let's be honest Contra's definitely not better blasphemy I think Dias and Gay still have top two over him Dias definitely isn't What the fuck are you talking about?

50:46Do not say that name. Ruben Dias is full throttle, defence first. Yeah, he's an idiot. A great centre-back. He's an idiot. That's what he is. He's an idiot. That's so unfair on Ruben Dias. He's got an empty head. He can't be that much of an idiot. Why? I know who he is. Right, let us know in the comments who got it wrong, who got it right. If we've missed anyone out, and not bad yourself. Moving on. We're doing an all-time Premier League draft, Man City, Man United. the Manchester Derby sunshine and I've decided to do what I did last time because I built such a good team last time I'm doing it off my dome you have the worst team ever you should go off your dome you should go off your dome exactly everyone should close their phones fuck no that's why it literally says the prep domes only bro how do we do it?

51:29I reckon we let the guests go first yeah I do as well should we see who goes next no it's then it goes round we just go round I'll go last you like the two picks I go first yeah yay Ronaldo yeah obviously thanks guys yes 1-0 1-0 in early yeah that was I mean that was always going to be number one for me so I was hoping that I could I will go De Bruyne terrible Theo I'm going to go

52:02I'm going to go Roy Keane ooh ooh one of the best midfooters of all time I'm going to go with

52:14Ferdinand and there is you get two yeah I get two and then you get two you get two when it comes round to you you get two I'm going to go Ferdinand and Evra yep go on then I'm going to go Vincent Kompany nice I'll go Karl Walker now you get two I'll have David Silva and I fucked already Reeve, who did you have? Kurt Walker Yeah David Silva No What do you mean no? I thought you were looking at mine You little tinker David Silva You tinker And Rooney Rooney! Rooney! Rooney! Rooney Fuck I will then go I'm going top heavy Oh shit, man You know what? Full backs are hard I'll go Harland Nice I'm going to go Gary Neville You bastard Yeah Nice man Yeah fuck off Okay I'm going to go Raphael Go Raphael Fabio Fabio I'm going to go Makeda

53:26Mate I've got to get a right back Because there's none I'm going to go Zabaleta Fucking hell I'll go Zabaleta And then give me

53:39I've just realised I've got Harvon and LeBron, mate, it's done I'll go Beckham I'm going to go Aguero, guys I will go We will rock you Did you say company, didn't you? Yep I'll go Nemanja No, you get two I'll have Denny Serwin Yeah, nice, mate Covers both, doesn't he? Watched much of him, did you? Loved him One of my favourite Player growing up Dennis Irwin He'd retired By the time You were born Not true John Stones I was going to say I wanted to pick him Just to wind you up Why was that a first Pick for you mate Because I thought I could get away With him for a bit I'm trying to play Tactically Breathe Get fucking away with it I'll go I'll go Yapstam Bastard I've got two centre backs Let's fucking go Hey

54:37Get into it boys Oh mate This team is actually unreal I'm going to go I'm going to go Five players I'm going to go Ryan Giggs How do I get a go for ages I'm trying to Okay I'm going to have to Get some teams People here That's why she go off dome I'm going to go with Off dome Off dome I'm going to go Fucking cheap Cantona And Robin Van Persie I thought you'd go RVP. That's twice in a row. I love Van Verde. Yeah.

55:12Uh-oh. Are we talking like careers or their career at the club? It's got to be performances at the club. You can't just pick someone that's like hopped in, hopped out. Oh, really? Yeah, you can pick them if you want, but it'll be a shit bit. People will judge you for the time at the club. So I can't go Lampard then? No, you can. You definitely can. No, you can. No, I'll go Rodri. Oh, God. Yeah, that's an interesting decision. Going Rodry? No, as in like the fact you suggested Lundry. Well, I didn't know whether it was like career or like at the time of the club. No, it's like footballer at the club.

55:48I'll go.

55:52Yeah, of course. Skull. No. No. I can't believe Skull's only just gone. I was filling my defence up, to be fair. Now I can move forward. I'll have Yahya Ture Yeah love it mate That is so mega That's me Class from you French Michael Class from you Not Elano Who? Go on then Reeve Who? Elano Elano Elano Elano Elano Elano You won't know that Not got a clue mate I'll go Speaking gibberish Let's go Van der Sar And take some Some of the keepers Off the table Oh There's one Because it's really struggling Yeah Have you got David Silva Someone got David Silva I've got David Silva You've got David Silva You've got De Bruyne Yeah I've got Harland and De Bruyne Yes I have Who shall have my number 10 I genuinely think this team Doesn't get beaten I've only got 6 players My number 10 Let's Trent Trent in midfield You didn't play That's why it's funnier Could go O 'Reilly and Cam Come on Come on Theodore It's a jerky What would be wrong with that I'm taking them Jerky and lampshade in the middle Lampshade?

57:14Lampard Come on I'm thinking In the ten Stop googling Stop chat GPD I'm going to get Sterling in the team no on the right just in case okay I'm going to go Bruno Fernandes and oh what a pick oh shit oh what a pick you said Kevin De Bruyne and then you just went Sterling yeah Sterling on the wings I'm going to go yes he's definitely in my Bruno Fernandes and Carrick oh but which one's more of a legend throwback oh it's back to me innit shit yeah um what is going on out there? Our cars are just getting absolutely our cars are getting destroyed. I'm going to go

58:10let's go

58:16oh no. Anytime today mate. Yeah this is a joke. Come on. Yeah I'm thinking. It's because you can't remember anymore. You're on a timer. 10. Oh, that's awful. Nine. Oh, no, this is actually pissing me out. Seven. Six. Oh, shit. Five. Oh, yeah, I'd just go Bernardo Silva. Oh, that's pretty good, actually. Mahrez. Yeah. I'll have Van Nistelrooy. Rude.

58:44And Fernandinho. No! Yes! That's actually a bit naughty from you, that one. Oh, that's ruined my life. I will go. You've ruined my life. Oh, no. I'm stuck. 100 % back. Let's go. Guardiol. Theo? I'm going to go. The obvious. The obvious one. Which, you got John Stones? Yeah. There's none left. Vidi's been taken. Yeah. They're all gone. They're all gone, mate. Are they all gone? You're fine. All the centre-backs are gone. You are fine. Except for... Richards. Michael Richards. That's right, mate. Well, I'm going to... Craig Brown? Yeah, good shout. Come on, pick a player. Okay, I'm going to go for...

59:47You're already laughing. Because I know he's going to be bad. Come on! Oh, let's go for... No, John Snow's been taken. Oh, my God. This is actually horrible. Nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. Ruben Diaz. What player of the season? Play and see him, Ruben Diaz. Right, I'm going to go... Yes. I mean, yeah, I've already got my centre-backs. I'm going to take Sane. Oh, no. And I'm going to take... I'll go with Gary Pallister. Baller. You watch much of him, have you? Really fast. And he got a really good package. Ooh. You ever seen that clip? And he's bald. What? No, he wasn't. He is now.

1:00:45Gary Pallister's bald now? Yeah. Is he? Yeah. Look at him. But he's bald. I swear he is I think I think he is no he's not he's got a full head of hair oh yeah he's got a full head of hair fuck it's because his hair was white I couldn't see through yeah see through air he's stalling by the way because he's yeah I know he's forgetting about the fact that no I'm not forgetting well no in goal mate I've got Joe Hart well done buddy fucking come on right Reeve I will go with Is these all your last picks? No. I've got one pick left. I've got two. Phillip. I'll go Phil. Little Phil. God. I thought you said Phil Neville.

1:01:32No, no. Cal. Laporte.

1:01:38And Kolarov. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. My defence haunts. I will finish it with... I've kind of got three eights here, but I don't really mind that. Gunnar one. this is time at the club innit my left foot I'm going to go Luke Shaw to finish my team off I'll go I'll go De Gea oh great show we've got some good interesting teams and some shit I tell you like that wasn't as like got down to some shit in the end innit yeah right my team is David De Gea Pablo Zabaleta Gary Pallister

1:02:18Rio Ferdinand Patrice Evra and then I've gone 4-4-2. I thought you'd think about Bruce or something. Oh, it's me, Bruce. Man, Palisade was better than Bruce. Watch much of me, yeah? Premier League years, mate. Oh, right. Every fucking week. Without fail. Go on, Gary. Go on. Middlesbrough legend as well. Yeah, Ferdinand Everett. Then I've got Beckham, Carrick, Bruno Fernandes, Sane, Cantanov and Percy. You're a 4-4-2. Your midfield's crap. Yeah, your midfield is shit. Beckham, Carrick, Bruno Fernandes and Sane? Bruno in midfield. Yeah, but what you could have got out of that. Yeah, that is rubbish.

1:02:52You ever see Bruno play in the eight? Yeah, he's class. No, he wasn't. I had no one else. He was not in the eight. Everyone was saying, why do you think Amarin got fired, mate? Because he was playing Bruno in the eight. Yeah, it was a joke. Yeah, your team's shit, bro. Who's up front? Canton on Van Persie. That's 60 goals. Oh, man. Honestly. It could be the worst. Wait until we're gallops Hold on Am I next? Yes Schmeichel Yeah Good start Great start Nice Collar of Laporte Stones Irwin Whoa Guys No but Over the age of like 30 33 I was going to say Dennis Irwin was incredible Yeah Irwin was class So was Pallister And Stones Stones were one of the best Yeah but we don't know And as ever You don't know that You don't know that No you don't You've not watched Steve Bruce Play a single night in minutes of football He's not in my team.

1:03:48Or Gary Pallister. Or Gary Pallister. I have. You've watched a single 90-minute football, man. I have. A whole 90-minute football. Liverpool, yeah. What game? Loads of Man United games from the early 90s. 90 minutes? All 90 minutes? Yeah. There's that game when they won in the last minute. It was Chef Wednesday. You're watching Man United in the 90s full night. On what channel? During COVID, they played loads of old games. That's not a crazy thing. Theo, some people do enjoy watching football. You do know that. Oh, you're getting defensive because you're angry and you've been showing up. I'm not angry.

1:04:18Huh? Yeah, that's not 90 minutes. He said 90 minutes. Apparently that's not enough to know Palace who was a good player. You thought I said Steve Bruce? I'd never pick that potato head. He's 20. Steve Bruce is a fraud to football. Absolute disrespect. Go on, then. Anyway, what was your... Anyway, in my field, Fernandinho, Yaya Toure, David Silva. Yeah, that's good. Rooney in 10. That's fucking good. Rooney in 10. Rooney and David Silva in the 10. You're playing an arrow 4-4-2? Exactly that. Yeah, yeah, nice. And then I've got Ronaldo and Van Nistel right front. Yeah, that's a fucking good team.

1:04:52Pretty good, to be fair. Fuck me. Your defence is shit, but it's a very good team. Yeah, two tens is going to dodge, yeah. I can just control the game at middle-counter. Yeah, I'll understand. Actually, even this is just fucking juicy. Van der Saran goal. Back four of Walker, Vidic, Japsam and Gavardio. Yeah, that's fucking insane. Gundogan, Scholes, Kevin De Bruyne. Yeah. Mahrez, Haaland, Phil Foden. Let's argue with that. Ooh, Foden on the left. We all know that don't work. outside Haaland anyway. Foden on the left don't work. We all know it. Never has, never will. Gets bad at the top. Carl's better than that.

1:05:21Yeah, thanks mate. Cheers. I agree. I agree with that as well. You chose Foden when you could have had gigs. No, he didn't. He was taking like third. You just make things up. He just makes things up. Do you think if gigs was on the table I wouldn't have put a phone at left wing? Weird. Right, well this is the worst. Here we go. No, it's not. I've got a Ballon d 'Or winner. A genius at work. What have we got? Have you got Ballon d 'Or in yours? No, you don't. Hold that. Joe Hart and goal. Nice. Yeah. Back four of Gary Neville, Vincent Company, Ruben Diaz and Luke Shaw. Diaz and Luke Shaw. Manchester City player of the season.

1:05:58Gary. Luke Shaw was one of the best full backs in Premier League history. True. What? That's true. Left back, should we? No, he's not. Of course he is. No, he's fucking not. How many above him then? Carry on. How many above him? I don't know. I'd have to think. But he's not. I don't want to give you anything feel. Irwin. Nicky Shorey. Nicky Shorey. Robertson. Luke Shorey's inconsiderate. My old man. Of course he's one of the best left backs. Stop disrespecting Luke Shore like this. Think of what he did in 2021 for that first minute. Yeah. I think I'm getting angry. Oh, no. Roy Keane, Rodri, Bernardo Silva.

1:06:33Attacking. 2-6. It's just sitting. Oh, that's attacking. Bernardo Silva. That's attacking. Roy Keane is a run as well. Bernardo Silva in the table. Hey, hey, they're going to score some goals for them. Just setting up to win 1-0. Tell you what, they're going to score some goals, eh? I'll do it. They did last year. I'm winning games, mate. You're fucking... You can't score on the left-hand side. Foden will get the ball on the left. You can't score on the left-hand side? Yeah, you're a one-dimensional side. All down the right. De Bruyne and Haaland would get free a game in this team. Yeah, he'd pass it to Foden on the left to kick it out for throwing.

1:07:03Oh, kick it out for throwing, man. All the defensiveness about Luke Shaw, you've just said Foden can't actually play football. Yes. Right. Sterling, Aguero, Giggs, quality. That's a well-good team. It's better than your fucking shit. Probably is. Probably is, but Kals is the best. Cheers. I think Reeves is the best. No, it's not. KDB Harland? I think it is. No. You know there's 11 players? Yeah, no. I don't need nine more. That's pretty much it. I don't need nine more. I've got four-man City midfield. You're playing 4-2-2-2-2. And? Runeo Ronaldo, Van Nistelreuf. Where's the defence? Yeah, his front two is better than mine.

1:07:37Where's the defence? I've got young John. I don't need him. Where is the defence in the midfield? To be fair, he's got Irwin Stones. Who's your midfield? Fernandinho. You've got colour of it wrong. David Silva, Rooney. Have you got colour of it wrong? I am, I just put it in wrong. I didn't know where I was going to put Irwin Stout. You've got colour of it right. That's how a proper manager thinks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean. Love it. Well, let us know in the comments who had the best and worst team. Yeah, because you love that. Yeah, you love doing that, don't you guys? You love it, don't you? And while you do it, come on, take your shorts off.

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