Spain Win The World Cup, Our Top 10 Players Of The Tournament & Our WC Awards!

6:17Theo:When you have no actual skin in the game and you don't want either team to properly win. Yeah. Like, I would have enjoyed seeing Messi win another World Cup. I also would have enjoyed Spain winning a World Cup against everyone else from Argentina. Yeah. So, I mean, that's as neutral as you can. Honestly, they just played.

6:34Reev:Like, the Argentinian, especially like that. Fuck him,

6:36Theo:by the way. Fuck the Jorafone to Barco.

6:37Reev:But like, even the subs on the sideline were just so irritating. Sorry, touching on my point. no no Paredes should have been sent off that second yellow right at the end of the 90 minutes at the edge of the box by the way

6:50Theo:but the ref bottled

6:51Reev:two red cards

6:51Theo:and also Messi got a lot of fouls given for him when they just weren't really that much of a foul he definitely gets preferential treatment certainly in this tournament I don't want to say oh it's corruption blah blah blah but it's as close to that as you actually can be but Argentina do play the dark arts really well so it's like that's kind of their game isn't it

7:14Reev:They were just so jarring

7:16Theo:But they're a quintessential South American team What does that mean? They're really aggressive They're super passionate They basically die for the badge in every single game If you had to call them an animal What would you call them? Rat Rat Yeah but they're a bit more They're a bit bulky Oh he's crying now

7:36Reev:Messi's crying now The sudden realisation Oh now I feel bad

7:39Theo:Well that's probably because It's his last ever international game isn't it? Oh he's choking up I reckon he retires. He absolutely retires.

7:45Reev:Oh, that's sad. Oh, guys, he's trying to hold back the tears, but he's currently just...

7:50Theo:What a great tournament from him, by the way, at the age of 39. We can't just talk about how good he's been. He's been phenomenal.

7:56Reev:Ugly crier? Can we talk about how good he is? He's an ugly crier. No, Messi's had unbelievable time. He's had a fantastic tournament, yeah. He'll play in the... He might make it to the next World Cup. Bro, he's not making it to the next World Cup. He could. Are you serious? At 43 years old, do you think he's going to make it to the next World Cup? Do you think Ronaldo would score if he could do it at 43?

8:14Theo:I reckon Ronaldo would try and get there just to outrun him.

8:18Reev:Seven World Cups.

8:19Theo:Yeah, yeah.

8:20Reev:One award that he can finally beat Messi at. Do you think on the day, obviously, the best team definitely won today? Absolutely. But did the best team win from the World Cup?

8:28Theo:Not necessarily the most enjoyable team to watch, but certainly the best team in the tournament. By far the best team, aren't they? It's like Lou said at the start, total control. They don't offer up any chances. and unless you get the opportunity to get them, like, you just... I mean, Belgium are the only team that scored against them. Argentina had, like, a couple chances right at the end there where they got five... Someone got five minutes at a time for 15 minutes of football, which... Yeah, that was mental, wasn't it? 33 % injury time is insane. Yeah, a couple chances, but that's the thing.

8:58Like, you're probably only going to get two clear-cut chances against them in the entire... That's 120 minutes. You had two chances, Argentina. It's, like, pretty hard to take them, guaranteed. Oh, my God.

9:06Theo:What a big World Cup that is.

9:07Reev:Wait, look at this. They're bringing out the entire Spain flag again for the World Cup. They've got a giant World Cup. This is one of the most insane trophy lifts I've ever seen.

9:14Theo:I will say, yeah, the Americanism of this tournament has kind of added to how good the competition's been. Do you not think? Do you think? Do you not think? Well, the halftime shows and all that were fucking weird today. I didn't know about Tom Cruise giving a 10-minute speech about football to us. I was like, well, what the fuck is he here for? Yeah, but do you not think it has been cool in some areas? I didn't enjoy the hydration breaks.

9:37Reev:well yeah the halftime show I thought was a bit just like not really needed in football

9:43Theo:yeah I'm worried it has been quite

9:46Reev:a grandiose but where do we go from here Reeve do we now do it again because they've already talked about they're going to take away the hydration breaks hopefully yeah they have to

9:53Theo:where's the next one Morocco Portugal and Spain Spain

9:57Reev:yeah so they're going to win their home world cup

9:59Theo:are they

10:00Reev:I think I think it was I think because it's in America like I don't mind it because like they should do it in their own wheel yeah there has to be a little tweak

10:07Theo:like a bit of individual nationalism for each place it's hosted it's quite cool Messi got given a clock

10:14Reev:yeah that's very true

10:15Theo:a gown yeah no he got a clock invisibility he's now the Batman of Qatar Batman of Qatar he didn't realise the responsibility he was taking on

10:24Reev:what are you talking about bro who were your stand-up players from Spain Ferran Torres obviously came on for the winner for the game and mate look you can say anyone I'm not gonna lie when we look back at that second goal that got ruled offside right by Ferran Torres I think they moved the animation to make him offside yeah well they had so many opportunities to get a second goal yeah they did

10:43Theo:the one that was ruled out for a foul where Marino accidentally stamps on Otameni's footwork is I think that's odd

10:50Reev:soft isn't it so soft

10:52Theo:but should we talk about the actual goal itself obviously Pedro Porro high crossing Nico Williams does amazingly well to get that back and Ferrantaro's just smashing it home he's going to go down his Spanish culture lore

11:03Reev:that finish was sensational it was an amazing finish because it's on the half volley and he has to get it over the goalkeeper and defenders without Sky in it as well.

11:10Theo:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keeping it down but also hitting it hard enough to, yeah. It gave him the confidence to score the second one even though it was Rudolph. Who was your favourite player from the game? Who you think stood out, Lou? I mean, you have to say Ferran Torres because he's got the goals. But you can pick anyone out of Spain. They just, every single person pretty much did the job. Marino was a handful too, wasn't he? Williams was quite good on the wing. I know he fucked that little chopping side but like, he was fucking, I don't know who the right back was for Argentina but he was fucking like, he was having his fucking cake.

11:35No, 1TL.

11:36Reev:It was 1TL. Oh, wait, no, it was Emelina came on. Yeah, yeah. He's having his pants down.

11:40Theo:You can tell that he's just so much more electric than Baena, though, isn't he? Yeah. Who they struggled with at the start of the tournament. Williams was injured. Yumaal was good today as well. I mean, yeah, you can pick anyone. It was just pure domination when you put it down to it. I can't believe we went to extra time. It was, what, 12 shots on target to zero, 20 shots total to two. What do you mean? They haven't given us much to really talk about because they were just so dominant.

12:01Reev:Is that Lamin's brother? It is, it is. Luminium Al let's have a little mention of him then 19 years old he's got a Euros and a World Cup is the Ballon d 'Or his coming going forward at some point he'll have the Ballon d 'Or who gets the Ballon d 'Or now he'll get it he'll get it now the odds of him have just shot up but he hasn't beat but Luminium Al hasn't been their standout player

12:21Theo:he's not had a good individual season it doesn't matter though it does matter Mbappe's probably been the best player this year they were going to give it to Messi if he won he didn't so now talk about who do you think he will win it I think they're going to give it to Luminium Al I think they go off the World Cup and it's because it's a World Cup where all the big players did perform you can't give it to you can't not over Rodri even so I'm just talking about

12:41Reev:you know the league as well

12:43Theo:yeah I mean that's totally fair in which case you would argue Jamal because attackers tend to have preference but Mbappe has just been the best player this year though if you talk about individual performances through the World Cup and also club season yeah yeah

12:59Reev:it's tough you know because it could it could go to anyone now because even the Harry Kane Even the PSG boys Who won the Champions League Like Debele back to back Harry Kane Elise

13:08Theo:Oh I see what I mean I mean speaking of the French though Yes Should we touch on the game That was actually the best In the tournament Yeah Because I know you guys watched it Start to finish didn't you Yes You definitely all watched the night Yeah I watched that I watched that shit I wasn't just me sat on my own Watching it Yeah Wait That's fine It's a dishwasher isn't it But the dishwasher You won't be able to hear it That's the dishwasher You won't be able to hear it

13:30Reev:But it sounds like a party

13:31Theo:You won't hear that That is mental Yeah So obviously The The Phrasing that everyone was calling it Was glorified friendly But it ended up being the best game Of the tournament Third place final

13:42Reev:6-4 10 goals Yeah I think if you scored 10 goals That's the final

13:46Theo:You could have watched it And it would have been 10-8 Quite feasibly Like it was that It was that It was a basketball game Neither team wanted to defend No no yeah The first half is crazy France actually couldn't give a shit About the game itself And then obviously DeChampo at half time has been like, can we at least try a bit, guys? But a lot of the players

14:04Reev:are sport now. That's my last game. I want to go out on a bit of a high. I saw a clip of a lot of the French lads sort of walking past Didier Deschamps and they just couldn't even be asked to look at him. Because, you know, he's leaving. Yeah, Zidane now. Do you not think that's a bit disrespectful bearing away how much this guy has done for French football?

14:19Theo:Trump's not wanting to let go of this. Police bets. Oh my God,

14:22Reev:that is the worst thing I've ever seen. They've jointly given it to Rodri. Literally both hands. Is he going to leave? One hand each Is he going to leave? Is Trump going to leave? Look, he's trying to get him off No, Rodney, what are you doing?

14:34Theo:What are you doing? Don't let him be in the flipping celebrations He's waiting for him to leave, isn't he? Oh, look, he's just saying go He literally tapped in

14:40Reev:Oh, what is Infantino doing? Go on, get out of the way Oh my God, what are you doing? It's so awkward, leave Look, he's trying to pull him away No, no, Trump's literally in the middle of it

14:50Theo:That is disgusting

14:52Reev:What is he doing? Ah, for the sake Even Infantino tried to get him off Yeah, literally And he couldn't

14:56Theo:He couldn't, he was like laughing The more slimy of the two of them actually pulled him away. Do you know what he did there? He made sure that he stayed long enough to get his picture and then he left. He absolutely did. He's a fucking joke.

15:08Reev:Infantino literally couldn't even tell him if he was like, no, seriously, get off now. Yeah, we can say it now because I've got the visa. Fuck are you, Trump. And also, Rodri was like waiting to lift it until he moved.

15:18Theo:Anyone, Lewis, you got thoughts on three Arsenal players winning the World Cup? Yeah, well, my chemistry, ultimate team theory has been proven correct. Well, Ray didn't really play.

15:27Reev:Especially after the England-France game. Yeah, yeah. Saka and Rice. It's all chemistry. I told you.

15:32Theo:I mean, the Rice goal set the tone for that entire match because no one really wanted to defend from France and he's just slapped it in from 28 yards.

15:39Reev:Yeah, that Rice goal was like...

15:41Theo:It's such a good goal. It's such a good goal. But it's like, why? No one's even trying.

15:45Reev:I swear, even my nan was like, nah. I know he probably wouldn't have saved it, but he could have tried. It was side-knitted, to be fair. He's absolutely whipped it. Yeah. It would be nice if one of the keepers did try.

15:57Theo:No, Henderson played all right. Marnam made a really good save off a corner as well. Esri Conceau got his first World Cup goal, which was quite a cool thing to see. Saka with a hat-trick.

16:09Reev:Thanks to Jude giving him the pen as well.

16:11Theo:And who's the last person to score a hat-trick against France?

16:14Reev:Gary Lineker.

16:16Theo:In the World Cup? In the World Cup. Oh, Messi. Pelé. Pelé. Wait, Messi? I thought you were on about England players. No. anyway does it not make me feel sad thinking like this could have been us right now

16:28Reev:no anyway I'm going to turn this off now so you don't

16:31Theo:yeah so touching on the England game right yeah obviously it's end to end but there are some positives guys we go into the next international tournament with Tuchel at the helm because obviously Pep doesn't want it can we and I will say best ever finish for England on foreign soil and the best ever finish since actually winning the World Cup so has it been a success or has it been a shit these lads

16:50Reev:you have to take the pause it has it has been a success. It's not a success. Yeah, but there's been moments. No, success is winning it. No, guys, come on. No. Success is winning it. Oh, did Cape Verde have success at the World Cup? Yeah, but it's relevant, isn't it? It's relative to expectations. I get what you're saying, but... No, it's not. No, honestly, this is the... This is why... Argentina and Spain are better than us. This is why we'll never win it.

17:13Theo:Yeah, we have a fourth season in the tournament. We finished third. I hate to say it, but this is like literally Arsenal mentality coming out of you. No, it's not. I think it's just realistic. It's not realistic. to think we're good enough to win the tournament. No, we are absolutely good enough to win it. We're absolutely good enough to win it. Anything shy of winning the tournament is a failure. We are absolutely good enough

17:29Reev:to win the tournament, but let's face it, Argentina and Spain are better. Argentina aren't better than us.

17:33Theo:I disagree completely with that. Objectively speaking, though, you were on the same camp as me of being, grinning like, we just don't look good enough to win it. Yeah. So coming third actually is probably not a bad finish. No, that's like a team underperforming. That's like, look, look, look.

17:49Reev:You think England underperformed?

17:50Theo:Surely we've performed To the exact level That you would have expected

17:52Reev:Look like maybe

17:53Theo:If we were fourth favourites To win the tournament And we finished Either fourth or third Have we not overformed No like Not at all No lads Come on like The expectation Look we've done decent Yeah I agree We've done decent But the expectation Is to win But I don't think I don't think It's an overachievement Or an underachievement It's an underachievement Because we fell short Of the expectation Which is to win And all the players would agree They won't be happy with third They won't be happy with runners Yeah but do you not think Every single one of them Want to win Because that is Like there's four Do you not think having watched what we've seen, we kind of knew that we weren't good enough to win it?

18:26We said this throughout the tournament. There's a difference between not being good enough and not playing good enough. We are good enough. We're not playing good enough.

18:32Reev:I would say, yeah, you're probably right. It's probably fair. The players probably aren't... We didn't deserve to win this tournament. But the expectations don't change from halfway through. The expectation at the start of the tournament is we're here to try and win it. But I do think the players try and win it. Anything short of that It's a failure I do think the players Would be proud of Finishing third And getting the bronze medal I do think they would be Proud of that I know that Obviously everyone's Going to be disappointed If you don't win We're calling it a bronze medal It shouldn't exist No I know they got a bronze medal Yeah but that is true It's a bronze placed playoff It shouldn't exist really No I agree with that But only one team can win There's going to be 47 losers right That's true I think the players Will be absolutely proud Of what they've done This tournament And yes they're going to be Disappointed But I wouldn't Call them an underachiever or a failure I think it's almost perfectly balanced isn't it it's like not an underachievement but also not an overachievement the tournament's a failure but the players of course the players can be proud but like the aim was to win the World Cup and we failed that is the fact the players can individually still be proud of it and it is extremely hard to think but unfortunately when you're one of the best teams in the world and one of the best countries the expectation is to win and that that doesn't mean that I'm not proud of the players we had some unbelievable moments I'm thankful that we made it to the semis I also don't think it was the players fault

19:51Theo:For us going out You can't put it on the boys that were on the pitch Well Saka said he wasn't even injured Yeah he played 97 minutes in that game So why is he not playing against Argentina

20:01Reev:For one Not even having a fucking minute That means the second decision was tactical That's got nothing to do with the players

20:09Theo:It's criminal that I think it's an underperformance Wait I'm trying to get this right I think it's an underperformance from Tuchel but the players have performed more than adequately for the tournament

20:21Reev:Tuchel's done better than any other manager since Alphamsey so is it an underperformance from Tuchel? yes

20:26Theo:yeah because we're paying him five or so million a year from the FA to win that tournament to win a semi-final no to win the tournament but also to get to a final

20:36Reev:which we haven't done since 66 and we did do that yeah well I mean

20:40Theo:if we got there we would have won it because we've got a 100 % win rate we just had to get to that position it's actually a compliment to say it's a failure not to win. Like it's because we are one of the, and I guarantee all the players feel like that, man. Like they've been saying in the interviews, like it's hard, like they were heartbroken and having to play that game. Like every single one of them wants to be the ones who can make history. And it's like a lot of those, like Kane, is he in the next tournament? Like we have, we have, we have a big issue. He'll be in the Euros. There are, there are World Cup, I mean, sorry, but like we have a big issue where it's like, which striker takes over from Kane?

21:12Reev:There is absolutely no one. But I do think though, like football does work. But four years' time is a long time. I've seen a list where it was like the most highest value transfer market strikers who are English, and it's like the top 15. And you go through them all and it has all the different age ranges. Mate, it's so... Yeah, but you have Liam DeLapp. Yeah, but some 17-year-old kid... Players like Rhea,

21:35Theo:who will be like starters at the next tournament, can just pop up from like 16 to 20 onwards. Yeah, that's true. But like normally you'd have a little feeling. Like there is a possibility where we can be like, shit who we fucking play yeah but Spain have just won a tournament without having a proper number 9

21:49Reev:that's true

21:51Theo:so long as they well I mean you know you touched on

21:54Reev:obviously Saka being the first player to score against France since Pelé a hat-trick yeah yeah he's also the first English player to get a hat-trick since the Jeff Hurst in the 66 World Cup

22:03Theo:I mean yeah yeah and fair play to him I do like the act that Bellingham did of giving him the hat-trick yeah because Bellingham probably was wanting to come on

22:11Reev:I mean he did score in the end and it was an amazing goal but he certainly

22:15Theo:was in a position that if I take this on a personal level he would have been the highest scorer in Englishman in the World Cup well he is now anyway Jude is yeah oh because he got his goal after because he scored yeah yeah but I mean like at the position of having the penalty he could have just been like right well I've got personal success here I've rated that so highly by the way I'm not trying to take away but do you reckon he actually knew he needed one more for that record absolutely of course he did we're all aware of it

22:37Reev:but people always before the time people were like there were certain members of the show as well who were saying like oh it's Jude attitude there's an issue there like he's such big time blah blah blah but that he once again has proven you can see yeah he can still think for the team he knew saka needed the penalty for for a goal and then he got rewarded with a goal himself by the way that goal in the eighth inning was phenomenal yeah it was it's absolutely phenomenal it was actually his best goal of

23:01Theo:the tournament as well i think in time well what would you say no no i was i was just thinking i know i wasn't his individually best goal that was his best goal yeah i agree i was just thinking to my head about like finishing third if I'm honest it's not awful though we could have lost we could have lost to Mexico we didn't do that we could have lost to Norway we didn't do that there were certainly so many opportunities where even in the Dr. Congo game we could have we could have gone out there and we did it what's the start I think that's the first time England's beat a top 10 ranked team in a World Cup in like I can't remember how many years but like a lot of years because we like that is the issue that was the real final

23:35Reev:then wouldn't it let's be honest France-England yeah come on I know the frustration and lie with the Argentina game with how we performed in the last 20 minutes, but we did lose to that Messi and Argentina.

23:44Theo:No, but...

23:45Reev:I know you keep saying this loser mentality. You can't beat them.

23:48Theo:You can't beat them in this tournament. Like, we saw how difficult it was for Spain to get across the line and they basically knocked 20 times shots against them. I feel like, well, we're better than Argentina. We should have beat them. But in terms of, like, in terms of, obviously, individual achievements and accolades, Drew Bellingham, all-time English top goal scorer in a World Cup Mbappe golden boot again and now all time World Cup goal scorer number one 22 goals

24:17Reev:will anyone catch him

24:18Theo:no how many more tournaments are you going to have two or three more than that maybe that's what I mean fucking eight but is he going to cope when his legs go is he that type of player I don't know yet but also Michael Alise has surpassed Pele seven assists in a single tournament right yeah but I told a stat to Lou off camera earlier go on you could try and guess I don't know if you heard it but he's had the most ever shots in a World Cup without scoring a goal.

24:42Reev:He hasn't scored? No. Imagine that. Imagine him scoring. Well, he should have scored against Olsen and then he faked his injury. He's got seven assists and no goals. He had such a bad miss against Olsen and he faked an injury. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah, he's fifth in most goal assists and they're all assists.

25:00Theo:Yeah, so how many shots do you reckon he's had in this tournament without a goal? He's the most ever. How many games he played?

25:05Reev:Eight. Eight or nine. Eight games. I reckon he's had

25:09Theo:32 shots 20 Alright well It was a game for him You've just ruined it What? 20 shots He's had 20 shots No goals I was right What is expected I probably should have Had about 5 goals I reckon He should have scored Should have scored Twice against us At a certain point Stop shooting How could you be that good At creating chances And then just like Anyway I can't Do you know what I just feel I feel just quite Flat now it's all over I just feel like Yeah you've got to go Back to reality mate That's why No I'd say I didn't think You're going back to England mate I do think the one Redeeming thing is I don't think we would have Beat that Spain team But we would have I do agree with that I think we would have

25:44Reev:Given them a better go Than Argentina Do you know what How I feel that game Would have went I feel like we would have Went 1-0 down And we would have We could have done it Because we might have Played a bit free Like going down I've not lost You're in the final There's nothing else To manage

25:57Theo:We've literally just shown That we're the best team In the world When nothing actually Fucking matters Can I actually touch on that By the way

26:02Reev:Do you think that's So much easier to say Than reality like everyone knows when you have no pressure and you just you play better and whatnot is that a bit unfair to say why didn't England play like that against Argentina because there was so much pressure but that's why we that's why we don't deserve to be champions because champions can deal with that yeah and that's like England aren't going to play like that in a semi-final Argentina didn't Spain didn't France didn't play the way that France England I'm not asking them to

26:29Theo:England are more of an attacking unit than the Spanish I'm asking England I'm asking England when you go I mean we saw in a game why did France play that well they kind of did they scored four goals against Spain oh yeah because Spain is just so good defensively you see what I mean no one's asking for us to play that kind of football I'm just asking for us I'm asking for us when we go one goal up let's not go and give have 15 % possession for the rest of the game also I don't necessarily know if that's a fair thing to say because France couldn't play like that because there was so much pressure on them as well yeah but that's what I'm saying yeah you can't do you can't just do that free-flowing football unless there's zero but there's a lot of people

27:05Reev:saying why didn't Tuchel

27:06Theo:just play like that yeah and if you knew the answers guys you'd be the manager of England wouldn't you so it's just the way it goes because there's no pressure on that game

27:14Reev:even like Gusto and players like would get pissed off with their teammates because they're like they're like the only tackle

27:20Theo:for friends in the first half they're like lads

27:21Reev:why aren't you trying like this still does mean something you reckon they expected us not to try yeah I reckon they were like what the fuck why are you trying why are you trying what the fuck are you trying like when the talk why are you trying Yellow card, yellow card, yellow card Also we need to talk about that Messy Can I just say right now Fields finally found a tiny dent in the arder Where he could get a Messi And he's drove everything into it Let me ask this question Snitches get what?

27:48Theo:Stitches That's right Yeah but he's just a little He's just a little innocent man isn't he

27:53Reev:He basically itched his chin for like half a second Messi goes But he might have went Rat He might have done Might have done yeah He leads to your point. I don't think Messi's a liar. Ref, he went, ref, referee. I don't think Messi's a liar, though. He went, ref, he said so naughty.

28:15Theo:Shut up, Messi. Right, well, that's the recap of both the third place final and the actual final.

28:23Reev:Should we do our top turn, then?

28:24Theo:Yeah.

28:25Reev:Which is interesting, because obviously... This is different to a team in the tournament.

28:28Theo:Yes. And Roger's got the golden ball, as we've just seen. So guys, we're going to have Rodri number one? I'm not changing it from what I have. No, no, no. I'm not changing my list. It doesn't matter whoever the governing body is. It doesn't matter what FIFA think are the best player of the tournament.

28:45Reev:It's all about what Reeve thinks.

28:46Theo:Yeah, so based on what I think, shall I just go?

28:48Reev:Give us your top ten

28:49Theo:players of the tournament. So I think for me, the top nine were pretty much confirmed, but tenth I think just in terms of consistency throughout the tournament and the fact they basically sealed them to the final I've got Pedro Porro I absolutely

29:03Reev:I think that's a bit harsh to be honest I think it's too low I can't put I've got

29:07Theo:yeah but I've got nine that are like elite Pedro Porro has been elite ninth I've got Ousmane Dembele eighth

29:14Reev:I think Pedro Pedro I'd argue Porro might even be better than Dembele this tournament can it reveal something I mean yeah I don't actually have Dembele in my top ten what fair enough I just he has been class but like There is There is an onus on That French team Didn't make the final And there's two others Already in that team That are going into The top 10 You know what I mean Yeah Dembele's got more Goal assists than Elise Yeah That's because of the goals Like I don't know I feel like Elise has impacted games More than Dembele Throughout the tournament I agree with that Dembele could easily go in I'm not arguing with it But I just think It's such a hard list With how many I mean I am biased

29:56Theo:Towards forwards Obviously But Eighth we've got Kibarsi I know he got given the young player of the tournament He's been phenomenal

30:03Reev:I'm his biggest fan and I have been for about two years now

30:07Theo:I just want to let everyone know that Seventh I do have Michael Alise I think he has to be included in the top ten He was his biggest fan when he was 17 Why do you have to make things weird? That's not weird just to clarify A lot of people have come around to how good Kibarsi is now off the back of this tournament Sixth we've got Harry Kane Sixth Yeah I think the top five I mean, top six is interchangeable, but it's just... Fifth, you've got Erling Haaland. I think you've basically carried Norway to, like...

30:33Reev:Sorry, Reid, touching on the Kain over Kibasi. Why? Just because he's a defender?

30:42Theo:Yeah, I think Kane's impacted...

30:45Reev:What are you doing in the... I think Kane's impacted England... What are you doing in the semi-final?

30:49Theo:Well, you could say that about a lot of people. You could say that about my number one and number two, but...

30:54Reev:I'm just playing devil's advocate. Yeah, absolutely.

30:56Theo:and I think there is an argument there for Kovasi to be high because obviously he's won a World Cup now but I just think Kane in terms of an individual to get England across the line in some games has done more than Kovasi did because Spain for me

31:11Reev:only conceded one goal but Spain for me is more of a conceded one goal that's why they've won the tournament yeah but it's more of a team effort isn't it Kane did like a couple games he wasn't really there as well is the issue yeah I agree that's why he's not Kovasi's been far more consistent than Harry Kane Kane is lower on my list because there's times where we needed him and he may as well not been on the plate I sorted him for the Garni game it's such a competitive list on there to get in isn't it but I mean

31:39Theo:if you get six goals in a World Cup it's a pretty good campaign

31:42Reev:that's alright if you concede one goal all tournament yeah but that's a unit isn't it he's a big part of it I agree

31:49Theo:that's why he's in the list that's why I've not I've put two defenders from that Spanish team in a top ten you're a unit fifth island as I say fourth Rodri because I think the top three are kind of kind of unanimous what Rodri's it going to be though

32:04Reev:what Rodri's it going to be

32:05Theo:third I've got Jude Jude Birmingham second I've got Mbappe and first I've got Messi I think he has been the best player in the tournament yeah argue against me if you want but I think in terms of individual impact from one player you've seen it the most with Messi and Argentina

32:20Reev:I'm not going to argue number one I think two and three are interchangeable it doesn't matter either side I think that's absolutely right yeah

32:27Theo:I mean

32:28Reev:Mbappe swings it

32:31Theo:for me because he's now the the most ever all-time top goal scorer as a World Cup and he's probably got a couple more campaigns to go doesn't mean like Jude still might make and obviously he's now the best ever English goal scorer in a World Cup campaign but best English player ever the argument for like Kane missing games is Bellingham, like, we relied on Kane in the DL Congo game. Mbappe's kind of been integral to everything that France have done.

33:00Reev:But I guess, could you say the argument of Bellingham over Mbappe, obviously Mbappe's got the goals and he's been phenomenal. I'm his biggest fan. But would you say that... Bellingham's had more influence on England than Mbappe individually.

33:15Theo:That is the argument. Yeah. That's my top 10. I mean, I think like eight of those players are kind of... Oh, really?

33:27Reev:Yeah. I don't know how it could possibly be really different. Oh, I mean, I think... Great minds think differently.

33:31Theo:I think seven of those are kind of just nailed on, right? Seven to eight of those have... Yeah. I would say so.

33:36Reev:Yeah, all right, fine.

33:37Theo:Well, you go next then if it's more similar to mine.

33:39Reev:Okay, guys. In 10, I have Usman Dembele in 10.

33:42Theo:Yeah, fair.

33:43Reev:In nine, I've got Harry Kane. In eight, I've got Elise. I think that's a lot. In eight? yeah I think he's been unbelievable he has been that's why he's the 8th best player of the in 7 I got Kibasi in 6 I got Pedro Porro

33:59Theo:oh interesting so I'd bottom 5 of the exact same just different order

34:02Reev:yeah I think Pedro Porro has been outstanding I agree

34:04Theo:I agree

34:05Reev:I think you also could have I haven't put them in but Laporte or Cucurella could have easily been in you could put the entire back yeah yeah including the keeper as well if you include keepers I wouldn't ever include the keeper yeah of course yeah I'll never do that

34:18Theo:it's tough to put it's tough to single out lots of individuals because they're kind of

34:24Reev:a set unit, aren't they? Was he not on the whole viewpoint about half an hour ago that the reason Spain ever can see the goal is more of their defence rather than the keeper? Yeah, because you could have included Rea in that team. I didn't know that stat when I made the list that he only faced nine shots.

34:37Theo:Yeah, but if Rea was in goal for this Spanish team, they'd have still won the World Cup, mate. They barely had a shot on target. Yeah, I didn't know that stat, though. That stat happened and I'm not changing my list. Well, you just thought he went through saving loads of shots. I thought it was more than nine. You know what I mean?

34:50Reev:basically he had one shot on target against him in a game I reckon if Spain had zero people he had zero shots

34:56Theo:on target against him in a World Cup final

34:58Reev:but if there's no key preference they still would have won yeah I agree so yeah seven Kabasi six Pedro Poro five Erling Haaland four Rodri same as you then third I've gone Mbappe second Bellingham because I think Mbappe has had help from Elise saying the name but whereas Bellingham is he's basically done I know Kane's helped him but he's done it

35:19Theo:He has been... I do kind of agree with you that other than Messi, he's been the most impactful player to his team. But I just can't ignore the fact that Mbappe is now the all-time World Cup top goal scorer. That's why I said it's interchangeable for them too.

35:32Reev:And then number one, I have got obviously Ronaldo. I've got Messi. I've got Messi at number one, guys. He's been the best, hasn't he? He has been the best, yeah. Right, well, who's the correct answer, boys? Get yourself.

35:42Theo:I'm so excited for this because if you... I think most of these names are just so obvious. No, I've got most of these. It's quite different orders, I think, is the middle thing. Okay, right. Number 10, I've got U9 Simon. By the way, I got the Golden Glove winner in mind. I'm the only one who has Golden Glove winner. That's actually great. Hallelujah. Before he was even awarded it. He's a Golden Glove winner because he's not had to do anything. U9 Simon, man. He has been good. He's been good, yeah.

36:06Reev:He has been good, but he hasn't been better than Poro, Laporte, Kovasi and Kukarev. Have you got the other four defenders in?

36:13Theo:Vazinho would have won a World Cup if he was the Spain goalkeeper, mate. But he's not. Yeah. I mean, he's a World Cup. Can you say his name probably please? Unite Simon. Unite. Ninth I've got Pedro Porro. Yeah get it now. That's crazy. I mean we obviously watched the tournament then. Have you got the rest

36:28Reev:of the back four coming? Yeah. Eighth I've got Harry Kane. Seventh I've got Bruno G. You haven't. That's a great Bruno Brazil were terrible but Bruno was fantastic. Better than Porro. No he's. Yeah but like when someone's a defender like they go further down. Bruno G's done more

36:45Theo:than Harry Kane this tournament. Are you fucking. It's relative to carry it. Like he was the only guy carrying that team. Vinicius Junior scored all the goals. He scored all the goals from Bruno G's assist. Yeah, he made the work for himself. I don't like to be rude,

36:58Reev:but you are the reason like this show. You know Bruno G's the reason.

37:01Theo:By the way,

37:02Reev:no it's not. That's a lot of you. You put Bruno G above Harry Kane and Pedro Poro. You know Bruno G's the reason they're out of the tournament? Relative to carry it. Because he can't fucking score penalties. No, let's actually pull up some stats here. He's literally the reason

37:14Theo:Brazil got knocked out because he missed the pen. Just because like... Luke, you fucking fancy this. By the way, by your logic, by your logic. I'm actually thinking about the tournament, not just whoever's like just won the World Cup or scored the most goals or assists. Harry Kane didn't win the World Cup. Or whoever got the most goals or assists. Bruno G genuinely had a fucking phenomenal tournament throughout the entire... Do you think Bruno G was better than Usman Dembele because you admitted to not having him in a top 10? Yeah, but the thing that we want,

37:37Reev:you want some variation in the list. No, you don't want variation. You want your top 10. Don't try and cast like us into fucking foot at Newcastle. We're going to ask you yes or no questions. you have to answer yes or no. That's the game we're going to play for the next two minutes. I don't want to play that game. Okay, Lewis, who has been better? That's not a yes or no! Has Dembele... No, no, we are doing this. No, no, no, because it's relative to... This is the top 10 best players. So, let me answer. Has Dembele... France have like five players who are carrying that team. Bruno G was literally a man with two fucking old men.

38:09Two old men in left back right back. And he carried that team. Gabriel Vinicius Jr. He created like 80 % of their fucking goals by himself. yes he missed the penalty but Bruno G so when it mattered he fucking bowled it as an individual actually you just showing yourselves up for terror I don't think you should watch the tournament they underachieved I don't think yes Brazil were poo mate in that team was fucking carrying them on his back carried them to a quarterfinal yes it's Brazil and they lost against they lost against the team were terrible Bruno G had a fantastic tournament which is what this is about no he did have a good tournament

38:40Reev:how did he do in the quarterfinal what happened oh he missed the penalty bro there's a reason they're out No, yes or no question No, because that takes away The context I'm not doing that No, I'm not doing that Because that means You just ignored my whole reason Has Dembele had a better tournament Than Bruno G? No, you ignored all my reasons No, I'm just asking I'm asking you a simple question No, but that's the argument Isn't we want That's the list we're doing France have five, six, seven players Who are all at the top Of the performance Whereas Bruno G Was doing it single-handedly And therefore Why is Vizinha not in your list?

39:08Therefore, for me Where's Vizinha? Where's Vizinha? That would have been silly Why are we being silly?

39:13Theo:He's had more of an impact On his country than Bruno G I don't think Vecini is a top 10 player in the World Cup Is why he's not in there Yeah but Bruno G's not Bruno G was brilliant

39:27Reev:Your argument was Bruno G has a far more impact on Brazil Vecini has a bigger impact on Cape Verde Than Bruno G has on Brazil And they're a shitter team And they're a much worse team Goalkeeper, I'm not putting him in You've got Uno Isi Monin He's literally just won the World Cup He's not a fucking goalkeeper, I'm not putting in Yeah, there's many ways you can get at me in this debate, but that's a terrible point. Why don't you just put Vazinha in? It's not a terrible point. It relates to your argument. The logic would be more of an impact for the team that they've had. You're more than welcome to disagree, but Bruno G's had a fantastic talk.

39:55Theo:Yeah, but the reason you've shunned Ousmane Dembele is the exact reason why you've just said Vazinha's not in it, which doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you don't make any sense. You said Dembele's not in it because friends are a good friend. Simon's lucky that he's even well in. They're lucky I even have a defender in there. I'm not putting two goalkeepers in. Can I say something That'll be an interrupted No I'm saying The logic of you not Putting Dembele in Should also By the way Bruno G in this tournament Goal Assist Two assists Assist Like that is a Unbelievable tournament He's had a great He hasn't had an unbelievable He's had a good tournament

40:30Reev:He's a good tournament But this list is the Top 10 best players And has Dembele been better Than Bruno G in this tournament Yes Has Harry Kane been better Yes That's impactful Has Pedro Ipora been better Yes he has By the way You're comparing people who were in just a complete different position. Like Dembele, yeah, you come in and you cut inside and you score a goal every now and again. Bruno G was running the team for Brazil. They tore apart every team until they came up against Spain who won it. I believe the term is you're going to have to fucking hold that. Sixth, I've got Haaland. I have a feeling you're going to not like this one.

40:58Reev:Why do you even preface this shit, man? I have a feeling you're not going to like this one at all. Fifth, Bellingham. Fifth, Mbappe. That's crazy, mate. Are you two in? I think the top five is...

41:08Theo:He's got the most goals ever in World Cups. He got 10 in one campaign. I understand. He got 10 goals. I understand. He got 10 goals in eight games

41:17Reev:against some of the greatest. You know he talks about all Bruno G's goals and assists. Players that have got more goals and assists than Bruno G. Obviously, you've got Ovabo, Saka, Vinicius Jr., Sar, Undav. Is this how you decide your list? Undav, Quinonez, Manzambi, Mbolo, Trossard, Latoura Martinez, Barcola, Gakpola, all of them. No, let him answer this. Is this how you, have you based your list off whoever has the most golden assist. That's why I've got capacity at seven. I've referenced the fact that he has assists, but also, I don't know if you know, like Bruno's role, he actually is a lot more impactful in how the team builds up there, which might not equate to a golden assist, but he's still a lot more impactful.

41:53Yeah, he's like the quarterback, right? He's like the quarterback. I'll let the Bruno G1 slide.

41:57Theo:Mbappe in fifth is the biggest howler of that fucking entire list, mate. Who are the four ahead? There's no way that four other players have been better than him in this tournament. Can we just say one thing? We all enjoy the third - You just agreed he was going to win a Ballon d 'Or. We all enjoyed the third place playoff, but those two goals shouldn't count. That whole game shouldn't count. It's a sack of hat, it shouldn't count. Well, that's not fair. It's not a proper game though. So like, fuck all that. Yes, he's been classed, but the four people ahead, I just simply think I've been better.

42:25Theo:But you know the reason he wanted to play 90 minutes is that because he knew that he could stat pad his tournament. Yeah, cheap. Well, Bellingham became the all-time English top goal scorer for one tournament in that match. He deserves it. That's such F***ing bullshit I agree with Everything you say About Mbappe I will completely agree I just think These four players There's no way on earth There's been four better players Than in this tournament You could argue three And that's it You could argue two And that's it If you could argue three That's pretty close to four And that's what I have I don't understand Who this fourth Elise

42:58Reev:Oh you are joking me What the f***

43:01Theo:Are we doing here Is my mic falling out there Am I still going? Horse assist. Lou, that is such a stinker, bro. World-class getting his move to... Look, yeah. Getting his move to what? Wait, what are you going to say? He's going to go to Real Madrid. Oh, at least he's going to go to Real Madrid. What, from Bayern Munich? Yes. He's earned his move from Bayern Munich to Real Madrid. What's going to go to Real Madrid? Bellingham is the number 10. He's going to go to Real Madrid. No, this has been fucking phenomenal. Look, this has been... Oh, that's such a... No, like, honestly, you can base it off the top goal scorer list if you want, but then we're going to have really boring...

43:30No, we're not doing that.

43:31Reev:We're literally not doing that. My top 10 players, personally, from who I've been watching, I think Elisa's had a better time than Mbappe. You haven't watched enough of Mbappe then?

43:37Theo:You haven't watched enough of him? Well, but Elisa plays on the same team, you knob, so I'm going to see the same amount of both of them. Yeah, and you've come to the conclusion that Elisa's been better this time than Mbappe. I think you're fucking stupid there. No, that logic twice. You can't say I haven't seen enough of Mbappe where they play for the same team. Well, you haven't been concentrating on Mbappe then? Yeah, because I'm too busy admiring Elisa's. Okay, so your attention's been in the wrong place. There's no way... No, my attention's where the football is.

43:57Reev:By the way, Elisa's had a great goal. Don't say that because you don't even... Well, it is. My attention is where... Normally, I just look at where the football's scored. Right, well... What?

44:04Theo:Now, when we come round to the best goal of the tournament and you can't remember a single fucking goal, I'll call you out. I remember loads of goals. I'll call you out to saying that you haven't watched any football.

44:11Reev:Also, do you remember when he had a go at me for showing the screenshot of Cucurilla? He said, you don't even know if I could do that. I said, yeah, because I watched the game, mate. I can't believe you...

44:22fucking had you you didn't have me i disagree you just you i watched the game you i watched the

44:27Reev:game when kukarela touched his mouth for a split second you didn't have me by you saying i saw it live i don't believe you but it's literally a fact but in your opinion it's not a fact no one can verify whether you saw that live on the no it's a fact that that happened you the fact is you showed a picture and he said look at you you the fact is you i just can't believe he's put a the fact is kukarela literally touched his mouth for one no half a second no the fact was you You showed me a picture and said, he's only touched it for half a second, and you showed me a picture. And then I said, and you said, how do you know that you're lying?

44:55I said,

44:55Reev:because I watched the game. Yeah, but you showed me a picture as proof. A picture isn't a proof about a Mount Littai. But you didn't believe me, and I said, I watched the game. So that's how I know it's true. I naturally wouldn't believe you when you say that. I'm baffled.

45:07Theo:You actually make no sense. Why are you so angry? Because you make no sense. You're really angry. Is Mbappé in five an agenda thing? Because I know you don't like him. Oh, I don't like a lot of people. But do you honestly think he's been in the fifth best? He's two places above Bruno G. I think the top five... Two places. I think the top five, you can put them in any order you want and it's fine. I think the top five have been the five best and it's like, whatever order you want, there it is. So you think Alise has had more impact on France than Mbappe has? I think he's fucking... He has been amazing.

45:39Mbappe should be saying thank you to Alise for all the fucking opportunities.

45:42Theo:He's had 20 shots on target and not scored a single goal. Yeah, that's not a good stat. But again, I mean, where did you put Haaland? Sorry. How can you say a guy that's had 20 shots in a tournament? 20 shots in a tournament without a single goal has been better than a guy that's scored 10 goals. Most assists. Fuck off, mate. How many times has he asked? By the way, this is the thing with Haaland all the time. Haaland? I mean, with the Haaland, fucking Mbappe. I literally yesterday watched a five-minute compilation of him not passing to Bellingham at Madrid. He's got 14 goal and assists. He's got 14 goal contributions in one tournament.

46:13Theo:He's got double Elise. he's got a double in can you please for once try the eye test instead of foot mob

46:19Reev:the eye test on Kylian Mbappe that is crazy that is so rich that is crazy there's no way that you could have

46:25Theo:watched this tournament and thought Mbappe's not been better than Alise no I think Alise's been better I think Alise's I think that's not a crazy thing to say I'm changing my worst take of the tournament

46:34Reev:I can't do this third I've got Rodri second Bellingham first Lionel Messi yeah did you put Rodri in this list before today's match no I haven't changed mate there's a lot of stuff I could have changed. Let's have a look at the edit time on the notes. Let's have a look at the edit time on the notes. The edit time is like recent because I've been doing my list. 20 minutes ago. Yeah, I'm still trying to think of best goal.

46:56Theo:He edited it 20 minutes ago. It would be easy if you just watched football and remembered it. He edited it during this segment. Because I've got unfinished list. No, no, no, no. But he said that he watches where the ball is but he can't remember a good goal from the tournament. Nah. if anyone has a best goal at the top of the tournament,

47:10Reev:I can't remember any of them. That's such a fucking lie, man.

47:12Theo:I don't remember any of them. Oh, right. Anyway, we've got loads of awards now, guys. No, I can't get over that. What just happened? Yeah. Guys, we are now onto the World Cup Awards. If you are watching or listening on Spotify, please go back to the top 10 players of the tournament because that is some absolutely golden footage right there. But in terms of awards today, we have the biggest overachiever team and player, biggest underachiever team and player, biggest shock, unsung hero, best game, best goal, biggest shithouse, biggest dickhead, funniest moment, and worst take of the tournament. which I've just amended.

47:43Theo:So, shall we go through this one by one? Did you just add worst take of the tournament? No, you didn't. I'm sorry. I've already got a worst take of the tournament. No, no, no. Yeah, but I've just changed mine.

47:53Reev:Yeah, I might have changed mine. No, actually, no, I'm sticking with mine. I've changed it. I've changed it. Right.

47:58Theo:Boys, let's do biggest overachiever. Let's do team first,

48:01Reev:then player. Team first, then player. Team, I've gone Cape Verde. Team, I've gone Cape Verde. I went to Switzerland. Yeah, quarter final. I don't mind it, but... I never expected that. Kate Verde shouldn't have got out of the group though mate and they got three draws

48:11Theo:against like some of the best teams in the tournament they actually drew with the team that won the tournament and conceded no goal Kate Verde

48:19Reev:Kate Verde's the right answer but for a bit of variation yeah but Switzerland they're good mate

48:26Theo:they're a big plus for me big star of achiever in terms of player is Jed Spence DJ Ad I've got DJ Ad as well yeah which I feel I don't like how that's worded as an overachiever like maybe it's just like we didn't realise how good he was Sorry, I don't have DJ Ed.

48:40Reev:He's in a different list. He's in a different one for me. I've got Vazinha. That's also true.

48:45Theo:You just went double Cape Verde.

48:46Reev:Yeah, I just went double Cape Verde. Oh, by the way, you can name any player at Cape Verde. Go on then, name another one. Name another one. Pico, centre-half, place for Shamrock Rovers. Go on, keep rattle them off. Carbal, the left back.

48:56Theo:Who?

48:56Reev:Carbal, the left back. Close. Carbal, Cabral. Cabral.

49:00Theo:Sidney Lopez Cabral. Yeah, there you go, see? Nice. Any ones that aren't related to Kane or a good goal maybe? No, to be fair, to be fair, Theo said you could name them all. He didn't say he could name them. True, all right. I did say.

49:15Reev:No one had even heard of the word Vazinha before we came into this tournament. I knew it. Well, 30 million people now follow us. He's a global superstar. He actually has more followers than like all of the NFL athletes. Six million of our people's followers. All right, who can name the top three most followed footballers from this World Cup?

49:29Theo:Well, we did this. I know we did this round there.

49:31Reev:Number three, you've got Cristiano Ronaldo on 12 million. Do you mean followers gained? Followers gained. Yeah, yeah. You got Vazinho in number two on like 28 And then Haaland gained 30 million followers

49:40Theo:I told you Yeah he's on 77 now Who cares It's pretty cool though I'm sick of all this talk about followers It's honestly as boring to me as like Didn't you flex on the fact that you gained 6 ,000? I said it as a joke when we talked about it Oh no joke was it I don't know why people are going on about it Who actually gives a fuck

49:53Reev:Right I've seen you go up to a bartender Showing your blue tic

49:56Theo:Yeah and they're like get out Conversely should we talk about the biggest underachievers?

50:00Reev:Yeah I've got I've actually I've got two nominees I kind of grouped

50:05Theo:three players into one I put the Portuguese midfield I've actually also done

50:09Reev:I went Bruno brackets their midfield Bruno, Vettina and John Evers I just put Vettina but I was like all of them as well

50:15Theo:I think Bruno's probably the most disciplined 100 % we were talking about him being the best player in the Premier League and he came into the tournament

50:21Reev:team we all see in Germany I went Germany I went I got three but I don't really know where to go for we're saying what? you can't I'm going to go Portugal okay yeah but I think you could have chosen between Portugal, Germany and Germany wait

50:33Theo:for both of these if you just picked a player and then got the team that they played for.

50:38Reev:Well, I did have Germany then as well, yeah. But also Brazil. But what did you expect from Portugal? Semi-final, quarter-final. Really? Semis? Well, semi-final. He's a Ronaldo fan. I thought as soon as I seen Ronaldo in the squad, I'm like, that's just totally not true. We went into this tournament talking about how they have by far the best midfield. I went into this tournament saying at the end of it, kids are going to remember Ronaldo as that old, washed player. That's what I said before the tournament. Were you talking to kids about that?

51:04Theo:You kids are going to remember This tournament When Ronaldo's so washed up I thought there was Norwell they were going to get far They're shit Well they didn't get far Exactly You think Portugal is shit? That's why I don't Yes No I think one player Specifically is shit So you think Ronaldo's Ronaldo's the reason

51:19Reev:Why don't you presume I meant Ronaldo? Because I know

51:22Theo:But mistake me if I'm wrong They did lose to the eventual winners

51:25Reev:Do you not think Portugal In like the 90th minute Their midfield underperformed Far more than Cristiano Ronaldo 100 % But that's not the conversation No we're talking about Their midfield No but you've named them As the underachievers They did underachieve But I think Germany Is also a great answer That's actually a really fair point They went out to the champions Yeah but They Nah that's not fair

51:44Theo:The Netherlands are the great groups They went out early though

51:46Reev:That's what I mean Underachievers They went out well early Yeah but who did they come up against Morocco Yeah they're still underachieved They're a fucking good team They're still underachieved If we're talking about how they take They went out to the champions I don't think that's Not that good

51:57Theo:I don't think that's fair Nobody really had the Dutch Going deep No one's really going the Dutch were a good team.

52:03Reev:I think they underperformed as a team.

52:04Theo:A little more so than Germany. Where would you have expected the Netherlands to go? How far? Quarter semis? Yeah, but they came up against Morocco who are just obviously much better than them. Let's just look at the draw. You're saying like semis for Netherlands, semis for Portugal. I presume you thought France were going to get there. Eight teams getting in the semis. You're going to run out of places for the semis. It's not possible.

52:26Reev:Yeah, I know that's not possible but you can still have the same team, all these teams having the same expectations. Portugal went out to Spain. Were you impressed by Portugal throughout the tournament? No, but I wasn't expecting them to be impressive I wasn't expecting them to be anything great Germany went out in round of 16 He has a point that Portugal weren't the most underperforming Yeah, they're not the worst, most underperforming

52:48Theo:They got knocked out to the eventual winning

52:52Reev:I think they played worse than Germany did in the tournament I don't know I know Germany lost to Paraguay on penalties but Portugal

52:59Theo:yeah I mean they lost to a team they lost to a team that got beat 4-1 by the USA

53:06Reev:I understand what you're saying but what the fuck's going on Portugal lost to the champions that should have been that's not oh I fucking so what England lost to the champions what England lost oh no they didn't they lost Argentina but you know what I mean they still lost to the final wait Germany go out to Paraguay yeah no yeah on pens and then Portugal go out to the champions of the world and ball the penalty shootout yes in a game that should have been And then he chooses Portugal as the underachievers When one just went out to Paraguay I know, I understand they went out to Paraguay I'm not arguing That Germany shouldn't be the right answer I'm not arguing with that I'm saying Portugal, throughout the tournament Heavily underperformed and underachieved They were poor Do you think they underperformed more than Germany?

53:49Reev:They underperformed more than Germany, I would say, yeah In the games Don't start to specify it That is true Well, we're not about in life What do you mean in the games? After what you've said just now. No, don't start changing something.

54:01Theo:That is a totally fair comment. What? Well, but you were saying, when he kept saying, I'm back, you were like, fucking hell, what, you got to class now? No, I said Ronaldo's back. They went out to the... The people who went on to win the tournament and the other ones went out to Paraguay. I cannot believe this argument right now. Who lost 4-1 to the US who we now know are fucking poo. And then after hearing all of that, he's like, nah. That's crazy to me. It's mental. They bottled the penalty shootout. They had a centre-back sky at 400 yards over the park. That was funny. Everyone missed me That's the most underachieving Out of the tournament Biggest shock?

54:32Reev:Norway for me I'm just way better than I thought My biggest shock is Paraguay beating Germany

54:37Theo:Fucking hell man

54:40Reev:I got Yes or surely What the fuck you do By the way Biggest shock doesn't necessarily mean This other team's underachieved as well That is also a fair thing The two things can be right

54:51Theo:What? Yeah so Yeah so you've just said That we're right as well Yeah I never disagreed

54:56Reev:Oh right You did because you still say if you go listen to that I never want to I asked you I said Portugal did underperform yeah I said so two things can be yeah I asked you who did perform more Germany or Portugal and you said Portugal they underperformed more but I think Germany underachieved I think Germany underachieved more

55:14Theo:what the fuck are we talking about it's literally it's literally enabled the biggest underachieving I know and I had Germany down

55:19Reev:but I wanted to talk about Portugal as well you can't have multiple teams down you know the rules it's a talking point it's a podcast oh I've been guessing What I'm saying is true Both things can be true We're all true on the pod bro No not him I think you're completely mental If I'm honest You think Portugal played well I think Germany underperformed And underachieved more than Portugal One million percent They went out to fucking Paraguay I know they did How the fuck is this a debate? I do agree How am I getting gasped into an actual argument here? Yeah anyway

55:53Theo:Who's your biggest shock?

55:55Reev:The comments have brains So they'll understand What I'm saying Okay Biggest shock I said FIFA Bend on the rules For USA Only for them To get spaffed on Is that a shock? Oh that's true Actually I forgot about that I actually was shocked I actually didn't think FIFA bent FIFA Trump FIFA bent the rules For Trump I actually You're shocked by that Believe it or not I'm the biggest fool For thinking that They actually wouldn't Have done that But they actually Did just change the rules Like with Government interference The biggest shock Is actually getting away with it Yeah I'm getting away with it Yeah yeah He's just suspended bro

56:23Theo:Yeah until next year Mine was Norway Just as a general union I didn't really think They were going to be As good as they were Unsung hero My unsung hero Is the referee that said After review Paragoy number 10

56:35Reev:Cover his mouth Decision is record Is that because of the tune That followed it Yeah because of the tune That followed it My unsung hero Is DJ Ed Spence

56:43Theo:Nice Is he unsung now then He's not unsung That's why

56:47Reev:He's been an unsung hero For England

56:49Theo:Everyone's talking about He's the first best player In the tournament Are they No he's in that for England He's definitely been He's been It's Kane Bellingham And either Anderson and That's why I put him in

56:59Reev:Overachiever Because I was like He is sung I think I still feel He's unsung hero He has been a hero for us

57:04Theo:I think he's sung though Yeah but Yeah I think the un part Has left him I think Dan Byrne then I think he's kind of sung as well Dan Byrne is not sung You were talking about How he's going to boot Messi Halfway across the field My unsung hero Is Lukaku Fuck off mate What Why Why? Off the bench scores every time.

57:25Reev:Belgium's all-time top goal scorer. Off the bench scores a goal every time. Yeah, but he got benched for a reason. Yeah, but then he comes on and scores me.

57:31Theo:Also, you said your best players of the tournament, underrated players of the tournament was Deketelar in the last pod. No, I didn't. It did. Wait, that was from a team of the tournament. Was it? Yeah, it was a team of the something, yeah. Team of the something. I thought it was underrated 11. You said Deketelar. Yeah, this is Deketelar. And now Unsung Hero's the other fucking striker. No, no, I can put Takeda, who's been like starting games as the young silverman. Like Lukaku's been coming off the bench. No, I just love how your brain works.

57:57Reev:Last 20 minutes and score on goals. Belgium's all-time top goal scorer as the young silverman hero. I think that's good. You said Jad Spence. Yeah. He's the three-been one of our best players at the tournament. Better than Lukaku, mate. Yeah, which is why he's not unsung. No, he's a better choice than Lukaku. No, he's not, Theo.

58:12Theo:Right.

58:14Reev:Best game. It's quite easy for me. England-Mexico. England-Mexico. Because it meant more than the England-Fans game. Oh, I suppose.

58:19Theo:But best game to watch Was the England-France game The best game needs to matter You're right England-France then Sure Mine is England-France But England-Mexico Because of what Like I just said When we were scoring Were you like screaming Celebrating You know what I mean You weren't Nah This is not the best game It was actually Visually the best game Entertaining Yeah yeah

58:41Reev:In terms of entertainment What about another option For Argentina-Cape Verde Absolutely

58:45Theo:Absolutely That was phenomenal And that's what brings me On to my next one Biggest shithouse Sorry we'll go back to Best goal Sorry best game Do you think No no let's do best goal But really quickly Do you think that this World Cup has provided

58:55Reev:More great games Than the previous World Cups Yeah I think it has Yep

58:59Theo:And do you know why It's because there's more games In the tournament Lewis So do you come round To the idea now Yeah well they add An even more now aren't they Hopefully not What so are you now Well you're against it now Wait are you now Flipped over the other side You now want more football Yeah Because you could stay out In the country longer I think what my points Were still valid In terms of like three month people getting grouped and it's a bit more but also like teams teams of lower elk

59:23Reev:showed their work you know they should do for like two years or two to four years they should get like every team around the world to like try and qualify for like the the main tournament and then like before they have like a fifa world cup pre-tournament oh please no that's what isn't

59:38Theo:that isn't yeah isn't that just like the regional qualifiers i don't know no no i was like why have Can you explain how they get to the World Cup? He had no fucking clue. I was picturing you saying it was like a World Cup before the World Cup. You're an idiot. No, it sounds like he was saying there's two World Cups. Now I know your fucking chat shit. He was saying there's two World Cups. Right, anyway, best goal, Lou. You can start. No, it's big as shit. No, it's best goal, Lou. Best goal, Louis to go first on this. You can start, mate.

1:00:05Reev:Louis, best goal. Come on. All you've got to do is remember goals from the tournament.

1:00:08Theo:It's quite easy. All you've got to do is just watch the tournament.

1:00:11Reev:And Bellingham against France.

1:00:13Theo:Fuck off, mate.

1:00:13Reev:Lou, you do realise you actually get paid to talk about football in the World Cup. Benningham against France.

1:00:17Theo:You think that was the best goal of the tournament?

1:00:19Reev:Lou, he ran from the half wheeler.

1:00:20Theo:You just said it didn't matter.

1:00:22Reev:The game didn't matter.

1:00:22Theo:It didn't matter, but it's best goal. Can we be serious? You're a joke, mate. You're actually a joke. We just said how good that goal was. We're having a private meeting. Don't gasp on me. The only reason you remember that is because we were just talking about England-France and it's the only one that's come to memory. You wanted me to come up with an answer. I had an answer.

1:00:37Reev:Reeve, having a private chat. It wasn't even the best goal in the game. Yeah, it was. He is a member of Pitchside. All we've asked him to do is name a good goal. A good goal. And I've successfully done so. I've got two here, so you can have my second one.

1:00:49Theo:By the way, I don't want it. Julian Alvarez versus Switzerland. By the way, sorry. He dribbled from the halfway line against France. Cut inside. Cut inside. Drill past another one. Drill past another one. And slot it through someone's legs to score.

1:00:59Reev:And you're like, oh, let's have a meeting. Lewis, you need to come up with... That is a great goal. Let's see a list. It's a great goal. Not on your list, is it? No, it comes from the door, bro. He's just talked about it I can't change my list As soon as we start this segment I've got Yeah so you should have said nothing then I just knew what I'm about You can have Alvarez You've been writing down Three players per Answer me I was writing down Talking points Go on Wait Can I just say my actual one Mine is Sidney Cabral versus Argentina

1:01:23Theo:Sidney Lopez Cabral versus Argentina You've got a full mid name

1:01:26Reev:As well

1:01:26Theo:Yeah Sidney Sweeney

1:01:28Reev:He's on like One and off mil followers now as well I would say the Alvarez goal

1:01:30Theo:Is class That's a better goal But in terms of context What it meant Yeah yeah yeah The Cabral goal With the limits as well He ran over to his missus, mate, like 80 yards away. I think he spent a while looking for it as well.

1:01:41Reev:And if you go 2-2.

1:01:42Theo:Cabral's is better. I think it is better. Oh, but the technique of Alvarez is fucking classic, isn't it? Meaning. That's what I'm saying. Contextually, Cabral's is better.

1:01:51Reev:Also, Alvarez was also, was it not the winner? They scored a third after, didn't they? They scored a third, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:01:57Theo:Yeah, Cabral's goal, mate. Very good.

1:01:59Reev:So yours is the goal they scored in the meaningless game?

1:02:01Theo:Yeah, no, but it's best goal.

1:02:03Reev:It's not. Biggest dickhead. I got Barco.

1:02:07Theo:I've got Barco. I don't like him.

1:02:09Reev:I don't like him. Surely you get booked for that, by the way. It's Biggest Shithouse.

1:02:12Theo:No, Biggest Dickhead. It's Biggest Shithouse. Oh, it's Biggest Shithouse, yeah. You might as well just do your Biggest Dickhead.

1:02:17Reev:Who's your Biggest Dickhead? The Ginger Prick for Argentina. Wait, no, who's that? Barco. I just didn't want to say his name because he's a ginger prick. Why do you got to talk about his hairstyle like that? Because it's relevant. Surely, by the way, did he get booked for that? For being a prick or ginger?

1:02:32Theo:You absolutely need to get booked for that. You're not even part of the fucking team. I don't think he can book up for BG we're not part of the 11 he ran further than the people celebrating the actual goal yeah true

1:02:42Reev:biggest shit house I've got Dan Burns stepping over the Mexican player after the header nice I took this in a more negative way and put Enzo Fernandez for celebrating to all the England fans when you fucking live and work in England

1:02:55Theo:I took it enjoy that red card proof I took it negatively as well so I said the Ghanaian witch doctor versus Harry Kane

1:03:03Reev:okay we can see how I would let the mind tick everyone right now. If I tick it positively, yeah, I'd have to tick it.

1:03:09Theo:Yeah. Worst tick of the top. I also did put all of Argentina. Oh, funniest moment. It's so comfortable. I got this. Oh, wait, wait. We have the same one. I already know it.

1:03:17Reev:Wait, we had a two pound bet on this. Yeah.

1:03:20Theo:All right. Harry Kane loses his voice post-match interview. Harry Kane interview. Yeah.

1:03:23Reev:I said I haven't got the same one. So I get two pounds. You need to pay up.

1:03:26Theo:You need to pay up. Yeah, that's fine. What did you say?

1:03:29Reev:Yeah, that's such a great shout. Harry Kane interview, yeah.

1:03:35Reev:I said my thing is

1:03:35Theo:yeah yeah yeah so what is it I got

1:03:40Reev:Jordan Henson not playing a minute and getting a yellow card and breaking his arm

1:03:45Theo:that's not the funniest moment no I think it was quite traumatic but that was during Harry Kane's interview he literally

1:03:51Reev:have you not remembered that Harry Kane literally said I think he's in the back

1:03:56Theo:I think he's in the back you've done his arm you can't remember him actually doing that that's by far and away the best moment from the tournament

1:04:04Reev:It's just not funny What happened to Jordan

1:04:06Theo:He got booked And broke his arm With zero minutes You need to apologise I'm so sorry Jordan I knew it was related To that moment though He has a wife and family That's like Kids saw that You do realise That's like funniest I'm laughing at you Not I'm laughing with you Yeah He didn't find it funny Jordan I'm so sorry I knew it was something To do with that game though

1:04:26Reev:I just couldn't remember What it was I thought you'd written that down

1:04:28Theo:Well I did write down Something from the game It was Harry Kane With his squeaky voice Yeah but that's just So not funny I still watch that interview back they all arrive into the stadium four hours early to bring the ball out and then finding out

1:04:43Reev:not bringing the ball out right now is actually bringing the ball out probably is one of the best ones

1:04:48Theo:yeah allowed to vlog for 20 seconds I did get to go on the pitch though yeah when no one else was there so no I think I misread the brief I also my honourable mention if you're even allowed was the new Messi meme that's come out where everyone's doing the the quote tweet I just find them all so funny

1:05:06Reev:They are so funny

1:05:06Theo:Oh he's a funny little man The worst take though Are we all in agreement? Well I'm in agreement It's Theo thinking Portugal underachieved Martin Okay right

1:05:16Reev:Well he's obviously Going to say

1:05:18Theo:Tom's saying Bellingham No no

1:05:19Reev:Here's what I said

1:05:24Theo:First of all Let's rewind it Three years shall we Tom's saying

1:05:28Reev:Varadhi's better Than Jude Bellingham

1:05:31Theo:This has been A long time coming He's not allowed. By the way, when we come back and we're doing the pod back in London, he is never, ever allowed. I don't even care if he says, I'm sorry, I changed my mind. No, you were literally stood outside Wembley after an in-game holding a sign saying, if Jude Bellingham shouldn't start.

1:05:45Reev:He's been replying to a lot of people's tweets saying, have some thoughts, sir. This was obviously a paid thing. Yeah, no, no. Like, he believed it was all. Even the clip where he's like, what does it mean? It's Jude Bellingham and it cuts into Jude's score. Like, he is never allowed. I have my bad takes in life and I've had many in this one you're a mine also a lot of people saying that you've had a Jennifer Duce no I haven't you're fucking hating him for three years mate so anytime he comes at me it started since Verratti anytime he's taken a piss where's the last World Cup that's four years three and a half isn't it

1:06:18Theo:I'm literally just going to say to him Jude Bellingham every time what do you mean by that I don't know what you're talking about Jude Bellingham what do you mean by that just remind him what he said about Jude Bellingham and how unbelievably wrong he was

1:06:29Reev:okay so obviously I start with the Verratti thing and then I said Tom saying Jude shouldn't start over Morgan Rodgers and getting annoyed when Theo said the argument is that he's Jude Bellingham also him saying Jude's had a poor season in La Liga and then weeks later proceeding to say he's hardly watched any of La Liga or Jude at all throughout the season

1:06:47Theo:is that all of it? yeah okay nice that's a whole yeah mine is Lewis saying Alise was better than Mbappe for this tournament it's not as bad

1:06:56Reev:as Tom's Jude say

1:06:57Theo:no it's not as bad but I did change mine Tom's was originally in mind but I thought I might have to switch it up because I thought you'd both go for the Tom one I didn't think that counted as the tournament to be fair well it's about the tournament yeah

1:07:07Reev:it's a take of the tournament also Lewis saying Bruno G's played better than Dembele in this tournament yeah he has relative to the team

1:07:15Theo:no he hasn't honestly your entire your entire top 10 players of tournaments so go watch that guys if you've watched this first

1:07:21Reev:oh god what a funny tournament hey it's been it's been a long old six weeks but it's been an exciting and fun six weeks yeah we're all ready to go home guys We see you from the studio. We've all been talking about how it's felt long, but also gone in a blink of an eye. You rhymed.

1:07:35Theo:Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

1:07:36Reev:So yeah, next week we'll resume as usual. Hopefully Tom's not even going to be here, mate, is he?

1:07:41Theo:No, he's not.

1:07:41Reev:It's a holiday. There is a lot of... I was excited to do a pod with him. The beautiful thing about it being so close to the season, though,

1:07:47Theo:means that there's so much transfer news coming through.

1:07:50Reev:Yeah.

1:07:50Theo:So next week's video will be sick.

1:07:52Reev:Yeah, and also, guys, I was in a lift earlier with Fabrizio Romano, and he told me that Arsenal have a huge signing on the horizon. Did he fuck, mate? Morgan Rodgers. He didn't even look at you. He said he was stressed and went straight back up.

1:08:04Theo:He was stressed, picked up his pace and went out of the transfer and we're going to do that next week. We're going to do that next week.

1:08:09Reev:Now you should clip that up and spread it as false rumours. That's all that fucking verbretti always, you little fucking snake. Right, anyway. Well, guys, thank you so much for all the support over the World Cup. We've loved it. Thank you so much, guys. We love you. As much as you hate us, we do actually love you.

1:08:23Theo:We also did bring you... We did bring you a video every day during the World Cup, barring two days. No, it wasn't enough. So we actually managed to get 42 uploads out and people said we were still taking it. I remember your names when you chat shit.

1:08:36Reev:I was actually doing more live streams, but I got shut down by the higher ups. You are the higher ups. We're the highest ups. I can shut down my ears.

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