Tom EXPLOSIVE RANT On Forest Fans, Ranking The Best Wonderkids And Naming The Most Underrated Player For Every PL Club

10:28Reev:They have a good midfielder. Elliot Anderson.

10:31Lewis Bowden:Look, they've got a good team, Forrest. They've definitely got a good team. I just, I don't know. I'm not, I think it's a weird one. Personally. I'm not that.

10:39Reev:It's way too early to call anyway. We haven't seen him enough In the Premier League At a team that isn't A big team Who called You called Nuno to be first To be sacked in the season Yeah

10:49Lewis Bowden:Not I didn't think it would be like this Who's second Potter Potter Actually no hang on Amorim could walk before

10:59Reev:I'd still go with Farker And then the leads I think Potter's the one I don't know Because that was a good result I think you can hang on Yeah but Is that not just like The Amorim Ten Ha kind of vibe but that results in the job for a bit longer giving him money in the bank for at least a couple I could see Potter getting sacked and then bringing in Ten Hag actually I feel like Ten Hag reeks of West Ham oh nah they'd bring Mourinho

11:23Lewis Bowden:in West Ham

11:23Reev:oh yeah he's looking for it now as well have you seen the last eight Man United managers all jobless like three of them got sacked in the last month yeah not bony well to be a Man United manager at the moment but well that is the breaking news there guys Nuno Espirito Santos has been Santa I know I know I keep saying Santa Santa has been sacked by Mr. Maranakis at Nottingham Forest and been replaced by Big Ange thank you Mr. Maranakis you know could we see a return for Nuno pretty imminently I don't know and Wolverhampton Wanderers Tom as our resident Wolves fan in the building can you tell us about this

11:58Lewis Bowden:I think they'd want it the Wolves fans really where do they love him in the group chat they've already been really Nuno back with the Wolves yeah but you've got to remember what Nuno did for the Wolves he's like he took them from the championship to the Europa League. It's similar to what Nuno's done at Forest, really. But he's like a god there. But I do think they're forgetting how bad it got at the end. Nuno should have been sacked the day we beat them in COVID 3-2, with David Button in goal and Kamil Grzycki and fucking Romain. The team we had out was embarrassingly bad. And that's how bad it got.

12:30Lewis Bowden:This is my whole point about Nuno, and he blows up at the end. I just think never... I do think just never go back. I'll be the prime examples of it last season of Tony Mowbray. It's never as good as the first time. Everton brought Moyes back. No, it's not. They're finishing the top four under David Moyes. They're never going to do that again. They're doing great now, though. They're going to finish the top four under David Moyes. I think that's a harsh... The league's in a completely different state right now. If you compare where he took Everton from and where he's brought them to in such a short time, you can see he's definitely carried on.

13:01Also, what you just said is completely false.

13:03Lewis Bowden:The league was way harder to break into the top four back then than it is now. Okay, so you're saying, is it not worth them going back to Moyes then, you think? No, no, Moyes has been great for Everton, but he's not as good as the first time round. But that's completely irrelevant. He's came back into a great job. Nuno could come in and do a good job at Wolves, but it'll never be as good as it was. That's why I say just never go back. I don't think it works. I don't follow your logic at all. That's like saying, your logic is saying, well, because Moyes won't take us to top four like he did before, we're not going to get him?

13:32You're saying he never broke up and he's never going to go back to that? That's all I said. But that's still... I'm not saying don't go... But that still might be the better option sometimes. I personally think Pereira

13:43Lewis Bowden:is a decent manager anyway. I don't think Wolves need to sack him. They've had a bit of a shaky start and they've got issues with depth and stuff. But I still think Wolves will be absolutely fine. They've got loads of new players that they've got to...

13:54Reev:Is their squad better now than it was when he was previously there? Nuno. Yeah.

13:58Lewis Bowden:No. Oh, okay. It's worse. Way worse. Jimenez, Neto, Jota, Neves, Voli. they had a really good team under Nuno will he not be hoping for a bigger job anyways? who? Nuno if he's done a good job there that is a good point that's a very good point does he really want to go in at a relegation I think he fancies himself being above that now but after what we've seen him wild card out there on the table after what happened at Spurs

14:24Reev:that's what I mean we've seen him at teams that are another level from that

14:28Lewis Bowden:I think Nuno would be like I don't know if Glasner left he could maybe slot in at a Palace or something like that I think he's like a mid-table Premier League manager, isn't he? Well, yeah, Man United. I'll be honest, I don't... Do you know what I mean?

14:44Reev:No, it's the size of the club that I'm on about. Yeah, but do you not... To play devil's advocate, do you not actually think, given Nuno's track record, he actually could do a good job at United? He'd do a better job than Nuno. He'd get back into Europa. Given his track record, no, he couldn't handle it at Spurs. No one can do a good job at that club. It's just cursed forever. I actually think it is. Lewis raised a good point last year At what point? Is that the last time he did? I think so You know you talk about Man United Are they actually a mid-table club? I think they still haven't Accepted where they are Are they a top six club?

15:15They're a top six club

15:16Reev:They're a big six club If you go down to Ability wise That's a team There's a difference Between club and team I think Man United's issue is Down to ability wise They're not where They're aiming for So when they don't reach there It's sort of classed as a failure Internally When it's like We're actually not good enough So if they don't reach top six, top five this season. It's going to be classed as a failure, but that's also like fucking Crystal Palace not reaching top six. No, it's not. I'm getting disappointed. It is. Crystal Palace would be fucking Man United. It's one of the stupidest things you've ever said.

15:44It's not at all. Man United's ability-wise aren't there. That's not the point. It is the point. That's the point I'm making.

15:49Lewis Bowden:As a club, their ambition will always be every season, minimum Europe, minimum. It has to be because they're Man United. That's fine, but that's why they keep failing because they need to build correctly and slowly rather than rushing.

16:01Reev:You know you said that. I think You saying that Already the goalposts have changed For Man United You said Europe Minimum Yeah Shouldn't their minimum be Champions League Start of the season Manchester United's minimum Should be Champions League Or fucking Conference League Well yeah That means Lewis is almost right Halfway there You've already changed The goalposts for them buddy Have I? Yeah

16:21Lewis Bowden:Alright I think Their minimum would be Top six then I don't really I don't know

16:26Reev:That's my point though Goalposts are already changing We're already halfway there How many times Have they changed? They did that. They're fucking all over. They've changed from when? They've changed from when? Champions League was always their minimum. Start of the season. Fucking winning the league was always their minimum. Yeah, winning the league was always their minimum. And now you're saying Europe, Conference League. But yeah.

16:46Lewis Bowden:Well, that's where they're at.

16:47Reev:I don't understand what you're going to say. But now you're agreeing with Lewis's point. That's where they're at. No, he said they should aim for like 10th. I'm not saying they should aim for that. I feel like they should restructure what they class as failure.

16:57Lewis Bowden:You just basically agreed with him. No, but Man United are the size of a club where, and they have the revenue where they can go and buy players like Acuna and Mbemo to help them try and get

17:05Reev:maybe try and get the last five years

17:07Lewis Bowden:it doesn't work like that it might this year who should they sign fucking Scott Twain I think they should have actually spread their money out a lot further and just improve the club the squad generally rather than getting like three big name players Cesc who they didn't even need by the way and it's looking a bit concerned they did they needed a striker who was their striker which land yeah you could play Acuna up there What? Isn't they queuing you up there? Kunio's not a nine. They don't even know what you want about. With Cesc, rather than Cesc, why not go for someone more Premier League proven?

17:38It's like them getting that young keeper. Why not get Martinez, a young Premier, not young, experienced Premier League proven, good character for the dressing room. Instead, they went for this young, risky route again, and they just have a team full of players. What about Kunio and I'm going to be most established Premier League players? That's the opposite. From mid-table teams. I don't mind that, but then, I like those signings. Isn't that the opposite of what you said before?

17:58Reev:You used to say, United should focus on rebuilding rather than getting these big name players. And now you want the likes of Emi Martinez to be... Emi Martinez, that's like a cheap transfer. That's like 30 million. No, no, no. Relevant of the actual monetary value. You've said in previous years that United should stop buying these big names to fill in holes. I don't think Martinez is like a big name. I think he's like an established keeper. I mean, he did win like goalkeeper in a year. I don't feel like that's the same as going out and big money move. If you can get a Martinez for 30 million or this younger keeper, who might be class or we know, but I think that's another example.

18:34Yeah, but that's the opposite logic though.

18:35Reev:Emi Martinez is a higher profile player in the Premier League than Le Mendes. On massive ranges. And you're just saying... I think the best way to sum it up is... You've contradicted yourself is what I'm saying. I really haven't. I really haven't. I feel like what Manny and I are doing, they're on the roulette wheel and they're fucking hoping that one day it's going to land on their number. Doesn't everyone do that? Rather than betting on black or red, they're betting on number 32. And it's not coming in. I don't understand the point here, mate. So there's less chances of it landing on 13. No, no, no, but yeah, so what's the comparison?

19:03Reev:Betting on black and red is the equivalent of what? So Martinez is black or red. Yeah. And then this random keeper who they got as young is like number 17. All right, so what about Mateus Cunha? So if it lands on it, it might be unbelievable. Yeah. But it's probably not going to land. What about Cunha and the Brazilian international? I like Cunha as a signing, yeah. Evens. So that is a black or red signing. You know he can do it in the league

19:24Lewis Bowden:and he's one of the best players in the league. Yeah, that's good. I'm not criticizing that signing. with Mbremo yeah but they've only made four signings those two are good they could have saved on Cesc and I think the problem Man United is also the way they've sold so who else let's have a look who they've sold they've sold Alanga who would be good for them right now they've sold McTominay but how long ago did they sell Alanga the new week's fucking hell they've sold McTominay who's went off to be one of the best players in Syria they sold Beckham as well they should have kept him and they've sold McTominay who went off to be one of the best players in Syria

19:48Reev:but you just said their structure of transfers is wrong because they've bought

19:57Reev:To be fair, they also actually do have a high record of buying these high-level players, big-name players, and not working out. Premier League proven. A lot of the time, Alexis Sanchez. And then he's just hounded the men's signing because he's not as well-known. You're misunderstanding. I'm not. I'm trying to tell you. Premier League proven is very different to buying Anthony Abra for a load of money, buying a random molasses you're in, buying in this random keeper. Alexis Sanchez. You've criticized me. That's what I just said. You've criticized me from this season that we're back to Lange and you're born about Sanchez?

20:29Yeah, but that was Prem Proven. Didn't work. Prem Proven doesn't always work.

20:34Lewis Bowden:No, so I've gone that far back. No, Manuel Lange was more recent than that. Man United, he's just a graveyard and he's a high profile player. He just has been. He's only like Ibrahimovic really who's worked in the last 10 years. Ronaldo. That's like fucking how long ago. Sanchez vibes. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, that person. Sanchez was a bit after that. He's going back years. We're going back many years. But that was under Fergie, wasn't it? Yeah, this is actually when they were still successful, by the way. Was it not Fergie? No, it was Van Aal, possibly. I don't know. I don't know.

21:05Lewis Bowden:I just think, I don't know, I think Man United have done okay in the transfer market so far. No, but what,

21:10Reev:my criticism of your logic, bloody hell. My criticism of your logic was United should have bolstered their squad instead of buying these big money profile players. And then you've agreed to them being good signings anyway. I'm not talking specifically this one. I'm talking more in their overall track record. This reason, I think Kinyan and Bremel. I will say though, Luke, I think a keeper, it's always, when you're signing a keeper, especially after the problems United have had with Onano Bayinder, they need someone to come in. I think a Martinez would have been a better signing because it's not just about his character.

21:44Reev:He's dominant. He knows what he's doing. He's not a young, timid, potentially keeper who's coming into this huge club. I feel like a keeper, it's like with Trafford, right? I think he's going to be brilliant for City, but right now is he the one we don't know because keepers are a completely different position you can't like Yamal at 18 you'll never see that in a keeper really except like a Donnarumma who's won once in a blue moon quite literally now even David De Gea was very young when he came in he went on to be really good for Man United but it's a lot harder to be a young great keeper my worry is you look at what's happened you look at what happens you're under scrutiny more than any other player on the pitch yeah you see what happened to like Unano He came in and he was like, best keeper in the Champions League.

22:26And he was like, oh, he actually won though. Yeah. So now there's such a huge spotlight because of how Puli and Anahe has performed on that position. If this keeper gets off to a bad start, this is going to be brutal. That's why I think Martinez is such a, it would have been a clever choice because you can rely that he's not going to struggle. Well, who's going to finish higher? Forrest or United? Forrest. I actually think Forrest genuinely.

22:51Reev:I can see both finishing bottom half. I think Man United finished 14 yeah but one's got to finish above the other so who is it I reckon Manchester United finish higher I'll go United I'll go United now what does that mean you have to remember if Nuno was in child I'd say maybe the other way around well Amram's going to quit by Christmas yeah that poor bloke needs to leave he's going to man he's going to quit he needs to sack it off he needs to sack you

23:14Lewis Bowden:and go and get Eddie out that would be unreal oh my god that would be unbelievable what would happen

23:19Reev:if that actually happened

23:20Lewis Bowden:I'd be very upset

23:21Reev:I think the vein would just it continues the agenda though doesn't it the only thing how they've stolen everything good out of your life how right moving on we've done if you lot have seen Michael Owen recently online lads he seems to be talking a lot of sense which obviously friend of the show he gets a lot of stick for online that he doesn't talk always the most sense I've always backed Michael Owen with how he talks actually personally I think he's makes sense I think he's a real a real Boar No, a real Maverick Oh yeah

23:55Lewis Bowden:That's how people describe The way Michael Owen talks

23:57Reev:A Maverick Do you know what I think Mike Owen gets a little bit Disrespected as a footballer Yes, massively This guy won a Ballon d 'Or At what age? 21 He was scoring millions of goals At 17 to 20 Or 17 to 22 was it? What was it? 18 Premier League Or was it? Yeah 17 Isn't it mad back then Obviously that's impressive I'm not doing away from that But isn't it mad back then In Premier League To get top goal scorers 18 goals but it was only a few years ago

24:22Lewis Bowden:wasn't it 21 yeah it's mental it's just fucking it's only when you get outliers like Salah and Harlan who just score all crazy goals I don't see what he said was wrong at all

24:34Reev:he actually said two things recently I thought the goalie the wall was a quite interesting one as well the what? the wall bring on the wall over 30 yards out oh yeah yeah I like that yeah I like that that's just true though isn't it yeah yeah yeah

24:47Lewis Bowden:it's very very true And his analogy about knocking hours down is easier than building one. Do you see that? That was good. Creativity is... Mate, I don't actually mind Owen as a pundit. I think he gets... I'm taking the piss out of you, but I do think he gets harsh criticism. But who do you think was better at the age of 17, Owen or Rooney? I think it's easy. I can't really remember much. It's Owen. It's pretty solid. It's Owen. It is Owen. I can't admit it, yeah. When 18, I think then it swings to Rooney. The problem is they're very different players. Although, Rooney's a better all-round player and of course had a better career and of course was a better player by the end of both their careers.

25:25Lewis Bowden:But Owen wasn't just like this poacher, you know. He dribbled past four or five and skinned people.

25:31Reev:Look at the goal he scored against Argentina. Go and look at some of the goals.

25:35Lewis Bowden:There's one where they beat Newcastle, I think, 4-1. Go and watch the at-trick he scores there. It's fucking absurd. Michael Owen was incredible at 17, 18. won back-to-back Premier League golden boots. 17 won the golden boot in the Premier League. It's fucking absurd. And then obviously wins the Ballon d 'Or. Which, by the way, for a team that wasn't winning things, I know they won that treble in 2001 when the UEFA Cup, FA Cup, League Cup. But, mate, Michael Owen was unbelievable. I think at 17, I think it's pretty easy.

26:09Reev:I saw a lot of the responses were like, yeah, Owen just relying on his pace. Like, hey, that's not relevant. A, that's naive, and B, that's using what attributes you have. Rooney relied on his massive strength. Yeah, it's almost like no one at this table said it's about a certain killing N 'Bappé, but anyways, Wayne Rooney actually responded. Do you remember both of you were just going into all N 'Bappé? Because Owen had the actual technical ability as well. N 'Bappé is better than N 'Bappé, mate. N 'Bappé is fucking Triore. Are we saying N 'Bappé don't have technical ability? No, he's like Triore.

26:39Reev:I swear to God. Triore. Rooney has responded to this, by the way. He said, Michael and I are very different players. Actually, you can do the accent. No, you carry on. Okay. He said on the latest episode of the Wayne Rooney show, which he's got actually on BBC, I used to go out on the street and pretend to be Michael Owen, even though he played for Liverpool. So Michael Owen was just like, yeah, idol, which is kind of nice. I thought you meant like he was like impersonating him on nights out there. I didn't understand what that meant. You can tell. You can tell you didn't have any friends. I was 16 years old.

27:07I'll say they don't really.

27:08Reev:But look, let's face it. They were both fucking class. Yeah, they were. And Owen's career was definitely cut short due to Actually his pace Is probably his Well that

27:18Lewis Bowden:He's still He had a bad knee injury How do Liverpool fans Remember Owen Because like In terms of Yeah because he went to Man United I feel like Well he left for Madrid As well he left for Madrid And then went to Man United Also And he started to refer To Man United as we I can't remember where I read this It might have been in Gerald's autobiography He actually had An issue Where Naturally his Like quads Would like Much bigger than his hamstrings Yeah yeah yeah That's why he had such Yeah, they were really disproportionate. That's why he had so many issues, apparently, with his hamstring.

27:50Reev:The amount of games he played as a kid, you could sort of say the same for Saka at the moment. He did his hamstring last year, and then he's just done his other hamstring today. The hamstrings are the ones you have to be so careful with because you do come back slower, less explosive, and you can redo them so easily.

28:07Lewis Bowden:Yeah, well, you see it a lot, don't you, with players who... I mean, Rooney peaked so early and then finished earlier than most because I think it does affect you. I think you might see the same with Bellingham, unfortunately. He's already wearing knee straps and that, isn't he?

28:20Reev:Pedri, another example. But then also like the modern medicine, modern game now is just so... Look at Messi and Ronaldo. How are they still going?

28:28Lewis Bowden:Or then another example would be fucking Giggs broke into a team at 17 and he played until 41.

28:33Reev:Yeah, I think it's different horses for different courses. How you look after yourself on and off the pitch, eh? It's a good thing. True But anyways This sort of got us thinking About who are the 10 best wonder kids In the world right now And we sort of made an agreement Where we're not doing it Like the Golden Boy is awarded Which is like under 50s You like boys Under 50 That's what it feels like We're going to say They have to be 20 or under We're not taking any 21 year olds Because Gavi is not a wonder kid Or there's a few

29:03Lewis Bowden:There's these like Belieber 21 Yeah Belieber 21

29:05Reev:Adam Warton's 21 Yeah Yeah when I was making this list fucking hell how many of these like teenagers just like the first almost the first some of the first names of the team sheet probably play the most games out of the current squads I did some research on some potential wonder kids that actually are not in the top 10 list for me because I did it on players I actually know I don't know if you guys have done that as well I'm not going to put in that Kendry Pires or whatever Kendry Pires who's on loan at Strasbourg I've done that one because he plays for Chelsea yeah I know Have you heard about Boo Addy At Lille No He's the one that I brought up For the Said she'd go to Brighton When they signed Where does he play Centre mid Never heard of him He's a holding midfielder But he's a I watched Belieber replacement Boo Addy Goals, skills and highlights This morning I was like Holy shit This kid's 17 He's The first name of the team sheet For Lille at the moment And Lille are smashing it Gerald Hato Chelsea Chelsea Is this your list?

30:04Reev:No I'm just giving an example I thought I noticed No no he's 19 guess how many prints he's got for Ajax he was their captain probably a lot over 119 Jesus fucking and then have you seen the city Echevri was it Echevri no no he's basically a reincarnation of Julian Alvarez isn't he yes right who else do their list I'll go you sold your tickets trying that's very rude yeah I had to get that over quick

30:34Lewis Bowden:right I'll go in 10th I think ability wise He could be higher But it's just because He's so young I've gone Downman Yeah Ninth I know he's really Highly rated But I just haven't Seen enough of him So I've gone Zyre Emery In ninth Ninth I haven't seen enough Of him Theo And he doesn't He doesn't start For PSG Does he Personalist isn't it Oh come on now Eighth I've gone Waniere I really Fuck it I think he's unreal Seventh I've gone And I'm going to Pronounce this right Because I've seen The comments slating me Esteval Is it not

31:04Reev:Estevia No, Esteval.

31:06Lewis Bowden:No, it's Esteval.

31:07Reev:Because their chant is Esteval. I like it.

31:10Lewis Bowden:Hibs away.

31:11Reev:I like it.

31:13Lewis Bowden:Sixth, I've got Myles Lewis-Skelly. Fifth, I've got João Neves. Fourth. Fifth? Yeah, I've got better players ahead of him. Fourth, I've got Sabarsi. Yep. Third, Hoyssen. Ooh. Second, Douay. First, Jamal.

31:31Reev:We have an identical list almost, apart from different...

31:33Lewis Bowden:It's all going to be a similar list, I think.

31:35Reev:I was very different Okay, shall I leave you? Yeah, yeah Tenth, I have Rio I don't know, I can't Who the fuck's that? It's the Liverpool Oh, good shout Top ten in the world I have him instead of Dalman He's good No, he is good That's a shout It would seem more Dalman than him play What do you mean? A good ten minutes That's about as much as most of the least you've probably got Good response Thanks Ninth I've got Ethan Manieri Ethan There's a big age gap between you two buddy Watch yourself Why are you making that one? Sorry Sexual Fucking strange Eighth Zaire Emery Oh I think this is such a fucking crazy reason I'm not going to fucking profess to watch him 38 games a season am I Whatever it is He's so good I watch him when he plays in the Champions League

32:30Lewis Bowden:He doesn't even start for PSG He did last year No he didn't I thought it was Rettini and Jaunevis

32:36Reev:Nah mate Fucking this guy You need to like get

32:38Lewis Bowden:Yeah I agree He's good I've seen of him I just haven't seen Enough of him

32:42Reev:7th Miles Lewis Skelly 6th Hoyssen Hoyssen Duck 5th Esteval 4th Kabassi 3th Jaunevis 2th Dewey And 1 Luminiumal I'm surprised you've put Esteval ahead of Hoyssen Personally Yeah Have you seen how good He's been at Real Madrid by the way. Started every single game. He's been playing really well as well. He's got over an 8.2 rating for the average for the season for a centre-back, by the way. That is very good, I know. I thought Hoyssen was over 21. No, he's 20. And then he's like, and then I saw he was 2005.

33:18Lewis Bowden:He's crazy.

33:20Reev:2004. 2000 and? Born in 2005, mate. What the fuck? Right. I've got 10. I've got Waniere. 9. I've got Dalman. 8. You think Dalman's better than Waniere? I think for, I know, obviously. And you're on about,

33:36Lewis Bowden:he's only seen 10 minutes of fucking. I've been following him for years. Oh, God. He's 15. You've been following him for years?

33:43Reev:You've been following him for years? So he would have been when he was 11? He's 15. Do you not follow the West Brom Youth Academy? Not around the street.

33:52Lewis Bowden:And also, no, I don't actually. I don't even check. Oh.

33:55Reev:He's reversed. Okay, who else do you know?

33:57Lewis Bowden:Because I'm not a fucking nut. Yeah, go on. No, no, no. I swear. right now from the Arsenal Youth Academy without looking at your phone.

34:05Reev:Tuva Akpom. No. A current youth player. I ain't got a fucking clue. But Dalman was actually highly tipped for a long, long time. He's been like the guy. Anyways. Estevo in eight. How do you say his name? Esteval. Seven, Hoyssen. Six, I've got Lewis Skelly. And then I think the five is sort of like a no-brainer, really. You can sort of move him in any order. Five, I've got Dwey. Four, Kabarty. Fifth Yeah Four got Kibasi This guy's been starting for PSG at centre half Do you know how hard it is To be a To be a forward You mean Barcelona Who did I say PSG Do you know how hard it is I think For a Centre half Who's a teenager To be starting It's far more impressive Than a forward I personally think Yeah but Yes fair enough Interesting one Third got Zay Emery Second Jal Neves First Jamal Fair enough isn't it mad like your male is just like still 18 he's the best right in the world by far I think I think you might be right there Tom I'd like to say

35:10Lewis Bowden:oh not Killian what about Killian until Palmer scores 4 against Brighton again what about then it's back the best in the frame if you're one of the people who like hate it when they shout at me I'd say skip the next 10 minutes of this pod nobody hates when we shout at you how was Lewis

35:24Reev:Miley out of interest oh yeah oh fucking hell before you say this list is this legit? This is legit but like I've just heard lots of names there who I've like forgotten

35:37Lewis Bowden:Just before we get into this there's obviously no previous clip of me and Lewis saying we're going to do this to wind them up so this is legit Yeah yeah whatever he says now he genuinely believes this right now Go on

35:49Reev:Before we carry on with his I think I forgot You know looking at our list right there do you think right now in the world the talent pool for like young players is higher than it's ever been? Yes I don't know it probably always seems like that doesn't it though how many teenagers are actually considered pretty much like some of the best players in the world right now compared to previous years you see what I'm saying I can't really remember I can't really remember how's that though like we just talked about Owen Messi, Ronaldo Messi, Ronaldo Jan Mbappe when he was younger

36:18Lewis Bowden:yeah and Mbappe every generation I think he's talking about

36:21Reev:the breadth of a wider pool of the players not just how good even remember like Erdegaard was making moves when he was 16, 17 wasn't he Erdegaard wasn't he he was like 17 there's always like players there Milner James Milner it's more a question of how many of these actually make it to the level they're all going to make it but they don't always do like I mean look at the other guys no but these players my point is my point is all these players have made it they're all playing first team football no they haven't made it that's not making it at all they haven't made it Dalman hasn't made it yet

36:53Lewis Bowden:your man always made it you could have you just said the same about Jordan Ibe yeah look where he's ended up They haven't made it, mate. They haven't made it. Yeah, Yamal has. Obviously, Yamal's the best player in the world. Kovacic. Yeah, he's had one good season. João Neves. Yeah, but you miss him. Do it. I don't think you see the point. You would have said the same about Renato Sanchez or players like that, wouldn't you? Yeah, that's a good point.

37:15Reev:I think Renato Sanchez did make it. But not to the level level. What do you mean in terms of make it then? Level level. What do you mean by make it? He's still playing Champions League football. I think you're putting these at the top 10 wonder kids in the world. Because he played Champions League football. No, he's not anymore. is he on one about but Jordan Knight plays in Ballers League it's a bit of a difference playing in like oh nobody was playing Premier League football for Liverpool and Bournemouth like it's still a massive

37:36Lewis Bowden:is there Panathinaikos now these players can like properly drop off and he was touted as like one of the best youngsters in the world it's more like Theo you're thinking you're doing a top 10 wonder kids in the world they're not all going to become the top 10 best players in the world like he all dropped off he's always devil's advocate to answer your question I don't really know like I can't remember bad. I'm sure in 2005 there was loads of wonder kids. I don't, I can't, but a lot of them fucking failed. Like that curl on, do you remember? And the seal fucking drew back. The reason I say it's because...

38:07Reev:Neymar, look at Neymar. I know obviously United, the United... He didn't fail. But like, I feel like we're more inclined to give these players their opportunity now than say in the early 2000s. And then how old were the, how old were like the United players when they broke through in Fergie's? Very young. Were they teenagers? Yeah, Geek was like 17. It's an interesting, It's an interesting conversation. Carry on. Anyway, let's ruin it by Lewis. Right, 10th. We've gone for Liverpool's very own... No, no, no, no. Keep that in. No, no. How do you pronounce it? Just say Rio. Just say Rio. I don't know how you pronounce it.

38:48Reev:I was trying to... Why would you not just say his first name? Also, you've got that so horrendously wrong. Go on, carry on. Right. ninth Dalman looking good but just haven't seen enough of him yet looking good Theo's been following around the street so sure enough of Rio when he yeah same with Rio Rio who's Rio Ferdinand Rio eighth Archie Greer yeah I like that shout Archie Greer youngster friend of the show as well ahead of ahead of so many people already oh yeah lads I'm not gonna lie that you said so many names and I was like ooh Champions League winners in there. I haven't got them on my one.

39:28Lewis Bowden:Also, how old? Is Archie Gray 18? He's 20. No, he's like 18. He's a young guy. I think he's still a teenager. From the show, from the show. Seventh, Lewis Miley. I actually think it's disrespectful. Sorry, you can't be right. You said Skelly then. Lewis Miley. You can argue, by the way, you can argue him being too high, but the fact that he's not... Did he start for you? No, but he'll be getting a lot more game time this season. Have you got any of the PSG players in? No. How can you put him above Archie Gray? them in here because of what he did in the Champions League for us he came two seasons ago when he came in he was injured all last season mostly which is a shame he came in he was one of our best players he doesn't start

40:05Reev:for Newcastle United right now but you've got none of the PSG Champions League winners but Dalman doesn't start for you he plays Lewis Skelly doesn't start for you you've got two that don't start he does really by the way Miley does play like three games a season Miley's going to play a lot this season I feel like he's fell out of like the the frame of things because of like his injury last year but when he came I don't think you're listening to what I said I don't think you'll listen let me finish mine and then you can but when he came into the Champions League in our Champions League season he was fucking unbelievable and he was better than Sean Nevers was for PSG last season I'm finished my list he might be in there he might be in there yeah go on I feel like there's a lot of disrespect under the Smiley's in there Mikey Mua sixth

40:57I hear my life

40:58Reev:Mate you're going to have So many names missing Why did he say it like that?

41:03Lewis Bowden:Have you done any research? Is Mikey Moore Also why I used my memory a lot Mostly He's playing for Rangers He was linked to us On loan Why did you want to Have his seat best kid In the world Sometimes I wish I like I need to look at these back You've got Mikey Moore on your list, but not Desiree Dewi. You walked into the office, so you had at least 45 minutes to get this. You can't have Desiree Dewi and he has alliteration in his name. It's fucking shit. What, Mikey Moore doesn't?

41:32Reev:I didn't even figure that out. You're unbelievably stupid.

41:39For fuck's sake, what's the chances? What are the chances? What am I like? What's the chances of me being...

41:46Reev:What am I like? What are the fucking chances of that? I thought what I like. Lads, let's just not shout at me. Let's just play. Who's five? Lewis Skelly. Yeah, come on. He's up there. Yeah. Fourth, Nuan Yeri. As you both Lewis Skelly. Wait, how can, who the fuck have you, man, you've missed out everyone. He's got no one from it. You've missed out Lewis Miley. Go on, carry on. Estebor, third. Wait, what the fuck? He's not in class, Chelsea. He's looking really good. Brazilian. Yeah, no, go on, carry on. Hey, this is mental. Second, Hendrick. Oh my God. Oh my fucking God, he's shit.

42:25Lewis Bowden:He's actually dog food, mate. He's clutch, he needs to not be too busy. He's injured as well.

42:28Reev:He's rubbish, mate. It doesn't matter if he's injured. No, he's not that bad. He's rubbish. He's not second in the world right now. Wait, second? Did you just go from fourth to second as well or not? No, no, we had extra more in there. Who's first? Jamal. So where's Neves, Zayt Emery, Kabasi, Dway, Halston. Apparently winning the Champions League doesn't mean much, to be fair. You know, like... I know, but the thing is, right... Dean Alisson is starting the Real Madrid at centre-back. I could be in that PSG squad and I would have a Champions League to me now. Khabar is Barcelona's best centre-half and he's 18.

42:59Lewis Bowden:You could have done a bit better research,

43:01Reev:couldn't you really? Did you see Jaunevi's hat pick a couple of weeks ago? By the way, I understand... No, no, but Mikey Moore's scoring at least one... By the way, I understand I've missed some big names. You've missed Miley. You put Nguanieri over Miley. I don't think I'd have Miley in the top 20. Why are you trying... It's just disrespectful.

43:18Lewis Bowden:It's not disrespectful. He's a good player. He's a good young player. But he's not on Desiree Dwayne's level. Mate, he's a good young player, but he can't even lay João Neves' boots. Who's the better centre mid?

43:26Reev:João Neves or Luis Miley? I'm not arguing Miley above him, though. I'm not. Yeah, you are. You are. That's literally what you've done. I forgot some names. I hold my hands up. I forgot some names. But I'm saying, if we're looking about here, I'm saying, as I forgot some names, you have also disrespected some people. Archie Gray? Yeah, I just don't think he's better He's a good young player.

43:47Lewis Bowden:Louis Smiley's a good young player. They're not top 10 best young players in the world at the minute, are they? Well, that's the beauty of opinion, isn't it? I suppose it's right. No, but it's not opinion because you haven't even... It is opinion? No, because you've just said... No, that's my opinion. You've just forgot names. You don't actually believe it. No, that's who's mine. How come you know so much about, like,

44:05Reev:Endric and Jamal in different leagues to know that they're worthy? Because Endric was tipped last year to be the best player in the world. So why is Endric better than Louis Smiley? Poor Endric. He's playing for Real Madrid. Not actually He's injured And doesn't really start So is Hoyssen So is Hoyssen I forgot about Hoyssen Oh right Should have had him in

44:22Lewis Bowden:Anyone else? Anything else? He's just Because he's at Real Madrid That's my second best Youngster in the world If you've convinced me Maybe he should move Did you see the Desiree

44:30Reev:Do a Lewis Skelly battle When we play PSG At the Emirates? No Both look fucking good Desiree Do a look Desiree Do a look Unbelievable Unbelievable

44:38Lewis Bowden:Anyway that was Absolutely fucking honking Let us know in the comments Who had the best list

44:43Reev:and why Lewis probably needs sectioning. Can I ask a genuine question? A genuine question. I know I make mistakes, but at least I try, right? You have done no research. I did research. That was poor. I did no research.

44:55Lewis Bowden:You've actually disrespected the show a little bit. You've actually disrespected Lewis Hale. All you've got to do is type in

45:00Reev:best youngsters in the world. All you've got to do. And then pick your own thing. I've got a few. That's where I got Endrick. But you must have seen. But Lewis, if you look at... But no, this is what I don't get. No, the thing is... Wait, let me start. If you've looked at any list, Have you done any research To be honest Yeah I had a look at it You would have seen Joe Nevis Zaya Henry

45:18Lewis Bowden:Kabasi Yeah Lewis Miley I'll hit him where it hurts Doc his wages Find him a week's wage I'll find you a week's wage For lack of prep He's got a smile On his face Yeah I feel like you're Disrespecting some of our I would have let you had Gavi I think you have Bias Again If someone's from Like a sexy country Like You used to give them Plus points We have our very own time We've got Archie Korea I've got three English players in my list yeah but you're always right I'm on about this no we've always got all three you're not I've got even more though haven't I yeah you haven't even got Dalman either yeah that's crazy it's not crazy but I'm saying it says four out of the three of us we've got four English players well I have more do you I'm more patriotic clearly who are you who are your English players you've got less actually no I've got you've got Grey Moirley one two three four five six Seven.

46:13Lewis Bowden:Endric. Seven English players? And that's why we're going to win the World Cup in five years, ten years time.

46:18Reev:Endric is probably more. Anyway. Right, so now guys, we are going to do one player from every Premier League club that we think is underrated. Wolves.

46:27Lewis Bowden:I've gone with Minnetze. Ooh.

46:30Reev:I went with Chan. I went Agba do, but... I went with Huang. Chang? I actually went with Chang as well. He's shit. Nah, he's not the... Thank you for proving my point, sir. Who is Chang? Will. He's Huang shit. No, he's not. He's so solid. I said Chan. He said Chan. I said Chan. You don't like Minetsi?

46:50Lewis Bowden:All right, Minetsi. You said Chan. Is Agbado underrated? I said Chan. He's been shit this season.

46:56Reev:I just meant general consensus. I'll be honest. Wolves is hard to do. I think every time he plays, he's just all right. He does have a good goal scoring record.

47:04Lewis Bowden:You're a prime example. Honestly, if you ask any Wolves, they hate him. So he's underrated then. Weren't they one trying to get rid of him? No, he's bad. I think there's a lot of fucks on Stran Larsson He's fine He's shit but he's fine Underrated He's To be fair I used to say this to my mates But they just tell me they hate him with a passion He's good I think Wolves is hard to do Because they've either got well-known good players Like Neves Not Neves João Gomez Stran Larsson Andre He's fucking hell I was always trying to think of Andre Gomez So yeah I think they're Peter Andre

47:42Reev:Anyway West Ham I've got Callum Wilson I like that Underrated signing Underrated player See his movement I know his injuries Are a bit peak But when he plays He's actually alright He's lost his yards But he's still good Does everyone always know Wilson's good No but I don't think they do I think they've always said He's actually a bit shit But I think he's alright He's a good 20 minute player Yeah I think he's a solid I think that's harsh A little bit as well No you I think he's a good signing as well

48:08Lewis Bowden:I don't I don't think he'll stay fit I think he's He's very clever And he knows It's just It is his body Yeah No like he's He's very good His body's just so clear I mean I love his body I think his breed Is like dying out As a striker Yeah like just a proper Purcher Proper strike Not even that Just a clinical finisher Just a proper body He's always in the right space

48:29Reev:He's pretty fit You know he's left your club You know he's gone I like him a lot You know he's not Out there anymore Who's your underrated For West Ham I'd put Somerville Yeah I mean That was affected by the The 40 million pounds I think I did this before that Yeah yeah I mean I thought they'd be like Waiting for him to come back Max Killman I was like fuck yeah he's back I've got Max Killman I don't think Killman's underrated though I think he is Nah he ain't underrated Why is he not underrated Because he's rated

48:54Lewis Bowden:They're signing about 50 million I struggled with West Ham big time I just went to Suchek They love Suchek They didn't No they all wanted him out last season And since he's come back into the team He's doing all right.

49:08Reev:Great celebration as well.

49:09Lewis Bowden:I hate it. What's a celebration? It's a spinny one, isn't it? It doesn't.

49:13Reev:It certainly gets dizzy, though. What does he do? He just spins around. That boy was so shit-lappy. I'll get well dizzy.

49:19Lewis Bowden:He kept scoring and getting dizzy. Spurs.

49:22Reev:Wait, where's Spurs? Now, I did this before he got in the England team. Oh, no, I'll put DJ Ed. I'll put DJ Ed, Spence, as well. Yeah, DJ Ed. I think it is. Because not only is he a great left back, he's a great right back. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's playing really well at the moment. DJ Ed's class. Have you all gone? but he's got into his

49:37Lewis Bowden:England squad, hasn't he? Yeah, but I did this before. Yeah, but this was prior to that. I don't know why I just said that. DJ Ed Spence, man. So you've all gone for that? I've got Vicario. Because I actually remember He hasn't been getting a lot of stick, hasn't he? You were saying that you didn't quite rate him a few weeks ago as well. I'm not that convinced with him. Because it wasn't long ago when he first came in. Everyone was all for him, yeah. It was him and Alison for the press group in the Premier League. And now it's sort of like people not to sue about him. I think he's still class.

50:02I think he's really good.

50:03Lewis Bowden:I've gone with friend of the show Brennan Johnson Friend of the show Friend of the show Is he friend of the show?

50:07Reev:It's friend of the show I've been there friend of the show

50:10Lewis Bowden:Oh friend of the show I do think he's really underrated though in the sense of I don't think he's flashy and Gets the goals Yeah he just always grabs a goal especially in big games he was crucial for them last year and their top score Is he underrated though? I would have said him but I think if you ask Spurs fans they wouldn't want him starting I actually think Is that just because of

50:28Reev:Kudu's tax at the moment? No I just think

50:30Lewis Bowden:I think a lot of people see it as oh Brennan Johnson yeah he does a job blah blah blah but if we want to compete for the top six we need better when they were talking about bringing in

50:38Reev:forwards and wingers it was always Brendan Johnson was going to lose his spot first yeah that's what I mean when I think actually they would be okay if they kept him right Sunderland this I've got the best shout out here I've got Enzo Le Fay I've got Enzo Le Fay oh you know ball man underrated how's he underrated they signed him from Roma what a player I'm not going to lie I looked at their team I didn't fucking know anyone and half of them a new signing so I just picked a random guy so Simon Muir is the underrated player. Can you type in Simon Moor, please? I don't know. Enter Le Fay. Simon Moor's super underrated.

51:12I will say that Enter Le Fay

51:14Lewis Bowden:is like their most holy rated player. I don't understand Kylie, sorry. He is holy as well.

51:19Reev:Nobody could believe they signed him last season. He's a game changer. He changed the game when he came on.

51:23Lewis Bowden:Yeah, he's like their best player though. Yeah, I've never heard of him.

51:26Reev:Underrated. Yeah, I did my enough general consensus, I think, so.

51:30Lewis Bowden:I'll work with the goalkeeper the Rofs or Roofs, however you pronounce it. Oh, so not the keeper Looper? I've said Simon Muir. I think Simon Muir is so underrated. Who is Simon Muir? Is he the second keeper? I don't know. I just picked it up. I don't know who they were.

51:44Reev:What's on the other tab? Is he a goalie? Yeah, he played four games. Last year.

51:49Lewis Bowden:Are you sure he's a goalie? Is he even at Sunday? I think he's a keeper, aye. I've never heard of him. Is he at Sunday? It's so weird looking at Sunderland's squad now. You picked a player who played four games last season. Is he their backup goalie? All their team. Have you picked their backup? I don't know any of their blaze mate. All of them are new sign-ins or fucking... Do you know what?

52:04Reev:Third choice. You picked their third choice keeper. You are thick as fuck. Should be second choice. Are you overcompensating to pretend like you weren't a summer? No, look at you. If you want me to actually pick a player here, say they're underrated, and know what I'm talking about, I have no idea. I totally struggle with that one. I'm lying to you. Yeah. Simon Muir should be second choice keeper. I mean... You picked the third choice keeper, buddy. That's bad, that. All right. Nottingham Forest. And actually, this bodes well on my pick because the way you were slating him just now, Chris Wood.

52:37Reev:Is he underrated? Is he underrated? He is underrated. He's only underrated by Tom, though. You're basing it on me. Everyone, no one, like, come on now. No, no. Chris, how much stick does Chris Wood get all the time? I think you're mistaken. It's all from Tom. I almost bought Wood for the same reason, but when you think about it, it's actually all specifically from him. Oh, he's underrated. Chris Wood's not underrated. He's got 20 goals. Yeah, and people still think he's shit. No, me. He's just really brutal about it. All it takes is one person, man. I've got your boy. Who? Elliot Anderson. Oh, me.

53:06Reev:I'm so... No, he's not underrated, man. He's rated very highly. How's Elliot Anderson underrated?

53:10Lewis Bowden:How much are they signing for? He's rated so highly. He's rated pretty high now. But I... No, I'm so happy that he got his thingy, but I'm so weird that we lost him. He's fucking... He's rated very highly. He's fine. He's Geordie Maradona. He's finally showing how good he is on the international stage. That's not... He's less rated than Chris Williams.

53:27Reev:with Yates. I think Elliot Anderson is more rated than Chris Wood.

53:31Lewis Bowden:Yeah, come on.

53:32Reev:Who did you say? Yates. He's underrated. He's underrated, man. He's a good solid player. He's a solid ball. This is the thing that I... Forest, a very hard team I feel like to pick an underrated player for. Yeah, good player. Solid. Always does a good job.

53:48Lewis Bowden:Yeah, and I feel like... Chugs are long. Arina gets a lot of the... Do you reckon, is he going to still keep his spot? Probably not. Zinchenko coming in. Zinchenko's gone to Forest. Yeah. I did not know that. When? It was on deadline day, wasn't it? I didn't see that. I still think he will. I think he's better than Zinchenko. Oh, he is. A left back, definitely. 100%. More athletic, especially under Ange. Zinchenko can't run. He's a big stiff idiot. Well, a little stiff idiot. He's a very small guy.

54:14Reev:Whoa, stinger from Reeve there. Moving on to Newcastle United. He's deflecting because he said Chris Wood.

54:20Lewis Bowden:I struggled with Newcastle and I actually was going to... I nearly contradicted myself. It is hard hours. I was going to go Dan Byrne but then I thought I feel like now he's rated no I went Levermento's not underrated no he's not everyone at Newcastle's rated

54:34Reev:unfortunately no I've gone with Murphy there's one correct answer oh Jacob Murphy yeah I agree two correct answers go on then Murphy's won I think Dan Byrne and I know what you're saying like he's rated but genuinely starts for England like he's been starting for England no I feel like in the grand scheme when you look at it in like the Premier League he's not held there I personally hold him as one of the best centre backs in the league like genuinely but this is and this is the thing but no genuinely you will not see a mistake out of Dan Byrne like ever and he's still and you have to think who's keeping think about this oh go on carry on the centre backs that we have on the bench like Dan Byrne and Shah keeping out Botman and Chowuz came in and Dan Byrne because he's so old I feel like people think he's just no no but in terms of like he's like in his 30s but people think that's his level but he somehow came and improved at such a crazy amount under Eddie Howe I think he's one of the best centre backs

55:25Lewis Bowden:Dan Burns a good centre-half. Yeah, I agree. I think he's great, though. I think he's genuinely top-top. He's not like a top-ten centre-half in the league, though, is he? I think he's scratching at it, though, mate.

55:35Reev:I genuinely, genuinely do. You said he's one of the best centre-backs in the league, so he must be top-ten. I think Dan Burns is our best centre-back. That's not true. I think Dan Burns is our best centre-back. I disagree. No, because you have to think about his versatility as well, mate. It's like he's so reliable and good. By the way, the guy can dribble on the ball. He often carries the ball up the field now. I can't believe he keeps adding to his game. Great heading as well. Yeah. Big moments. Livermento for me. He scored two scored in big moments twice. PSG and in the final score in big moments.

56:07Reev:Vertatile. Livermento's not underrated. I don't understand. You've ruined my one because I had Lewis Miley, but you put him in like fifth best youngster in the world. Yeah, that was a good one. No, he is underrated. A bit annoying, really. You underrated. What, you think he should be first in the world? No, I'm saying he or Edenham in the list. Those are all the shots. I think the answer is Jacob Murphy. Did you have Jacob Murphy? No, I had Livermento.

56:30Lewis Bowden:Livermento's like really went up a level. I just cannot out of pure hatred for his time at Albion ever rate him, but he is underrated. It depends where you see it. He's a bit like Brennan Johnson, actually, Murphy, in the sense of not really that flashy, but they just deliver. I'd start him over Alanga at the moment. I don't know why we're not. But with Livermento as well, it depends on what level. It's because of the money you've spent on Alanga. You don't want to try and... He didn't start against Leeds. It depends.

56:53Reev:Alanga didn't start against Leeds, though. no we changed system though but normally like in our normal 4-3-3 he'll start on the right it was because our system changed but Liverpool has definitely went up a level this year so it depends if you class him as like he's not underrated they signed him for like

57:08Lewis Bowden:40 million he's linked to Man City he's in the England squad he's not underrated

57:11Reev:moving on to Man United I struggled with this big time I haven't got one on there I think I've got a good one I went Diallo I'll put Mason Mount what's that fear He's yellow.

57:25Lewis Bowden:He's like their best player. Yeah, so like a...

57:27Reev:I went Dorgoo. I like Mason Mountshout from you there, Reeve. Thanks, mate. Friend of the show, friend of the show. He is friend of the show. Mason Mountshout. Oh, why does it... No, he's not. He's actually been one of United's best players this year. And when you talk about versatility... It's not hard to do, though. It doesn't say a lot,

57:41Lewis Bowden:considering how shit you think they are.

57:43Reev:Still being one of their best players.

57:45Lewis Bowden:Therefore, he's underrated. Is he underrated? Like, Mason, he was in England International. They signed for 50 million. It's now, though, isn't it?

57:51Reev:We're talking about the here and now. He's been around a long time as well. He's got his level now, isn't it, I guess. But I don't think they have an underrated player. I think they're all perfectly rated.

58:00Lewis Bowden:Or Masraoui could have been a shot. I think Masraoui or Doggy. I think they're quite solid. Does Masraoui still start? He comes on and off, doesn't he? They don't really have a set fucking team, do they? Light switch. Harry Maguire.

58:10Reev:Oh, yeah. He's nice. I don't mind it, you know. I think he's underrated. I love Maguire. He's not starting, is he? He doesn't start. Not in the league, no. He should be starting. He's been disrespected. Is he the best penalty taker in the world? And I have disrespected him as many as I. Ever, of all time. Yeah, definitely. Might be. In clutch situations. I like Harry Maguire. Everyone does. What did you do to him? Whatever he wants me to. Next. Man City. Ooh. Who do I have for months? I went Marmouche. And I know he's cost a lot of money, but hear me out. I went for Oscar Bob as well.

58:41Lewis Bowden:Oh, he's so great.

58:42Reev:I've got Aker.

58:43Lewis Bowden:As opposed to Marmouche, the second top goal scorer in Europe. Marmouche, he went for Oscar Bob, he's right. They started for 70 mil. Hear me out with Mamou. Oscar Bob's keeping top players at the team. Hear me out with Mamou. He's literally starting every game at the moment.

58:55Reev:He can fill in the hole. He can fill up top. He can fill out wide. That doesn't make him underrated. So can Oscar Bob.

59:00Lewis Bowden:Being a versatile footballer makes you a good footballer, not an underrated footballer. Oh, look the way. Like Livramento, he then just lists why he's a great player. And I'm like, well, yeah, that's why everyone knows he's a great player. That is horrendous. Nobody knows. He was 80 million pounds.

59:12Reev:He cost 80 million pounds. His name record January signing or whatever it was. Are you underrated? Oscar Bob is a friend of the show So I agree with Oscar Bob Friend of the show Right right right Actually he's not a friend of the show He's a friend of us I've got Which is a friend of the show Rattled 1-0 I've got Aki in there Solid Solid Solid I don't mind that I don't mind that

59:32Lewis Bowden:Yeah because he gets overlooked Doesn't he Because of Ruben Diaz Or like that Kusanov I don't mind that I don't like Kusanov coming in over him as well I think Aki is You don't like it Kusanov came in We would link with him a lot I really want him But he's looking

59:46Reev:He doesn't get used left side though That's the reason

59:48Lewis Bowden:I think because he's so versatile as I like players like that kind of get like Ruben Diaz he's just a centre half isn't he so he's only going to play centre half did Akanji end up leaving? no yes

1:00:01Reev:yeah he's at Inter Milan what? oh yeah that was really late he's at Inter Milan what? it's a good sign isn't it fucking hell good job we keep up with football boys yeah but I just assumed he didn't go because Gehi didn't go he was going to go to Palace wasn't he Akanji no but they were trying to get they were trying to get Eagle from Brighton He was the replacement Not Akanji Akanji went into Milan Before the gay He thinks not through I know he's gone now But Akanji's underrated I didn't realise How old he was He's like 31 32 is he? Mad Right He's having fun Good job boys I think so Who's next?

1:00:35Reev:We got Liverpool next I've gone Sir Bosley I went Sir Bosley We've all went the same Yeah And not just because Of that free kick His performance is at right back Because he's so versatile They can be able to right back So he's underrated Also because I thought when he first come,

1:00:49Lewis Bowden:he had that good little spell. Then I thought he dropped off, but I think he's raised his level again. In such a competitive team, to play in that team at the minute, I think. I've been a fan for many years as well. He was Hungry's captain there, right?

1:01:00Reev:At the point he signed. Probably. I think so. He was like a god to me. No, but he's like a god. He was like a god to me, yeah. Leeds. I went Dan James. Goodmanson. Sean Longstaff. You can't think that. Well, Dawn, you put your hands up because you underrated him. because I'll put them as their... He's the best sentiment in the world. I'll put them as their best... 15 million, are you? Because, Tom, I'll put them as their best player not long, a few weeks ago, and you're like, he doesn't even start, he doesn't even start. He started against Newcastle, one man of the match. He ran the midfield, him himself, outplaying our two midfielders.

1:01:33Lewis Bowden:Is that what's strong, Longstaff? I think they're hard leads because... Overrated... Not in that way. Overrated is very easy for them, but I think... I went Ampadu just because... I know he's their captain, but Tanaka gets a lot of the plaudits, so, but I think... I think Dan James is always solid, mate.

1:01:48Reev:You know what I mean? He's always there. He is anyway.

1:01:51Lewis Bowden:When you watch Leeds, he's always there, isn't he? He's always there. He's always fucking Dan James. Jack Harris in the show. He doesn't start now, does he? No. Bro, because he doesn't play. Is that just because the Leafs fans don't like him, though? Probably the manager's decision.

1:02:03Reev:He is shit as well. But he might be like, we want the fans outside, innit? Fulham, I think this is an easy one, right? We've all got Iwobi.

1:02:10Lewis Bowden:No. I've got one of the most underrated players in the league. Who have I got? Iwobi. Calvin Bassey. Calvin Bassey is excellent he's so so good I don't think I've ever watched him and he's had a bad game he's fucking didn't you call him a big stiff idiot like a year and a half no not Calvin Bassey I said no no no I said he very much fits the profile no no no I remember coming on this show saying I can't believe how good he actually is considering he looks like a big stiff idiot right so you did still call him on but he's just he did also call Vincent Kompany a big stiff idiot he was he was a big stiff idiot I went to Warby as well I've gone Josh King he's new to the scene though yeah fair of little go on pick a floor with him no but is that how was that underrated you'd never heard of him

1:02:53Reev:up until the game what are you talking about what are you talking about you'd never heard of him until that Chelsea game so people don't appreciate how good he is no no he'd never heard of him no that can't be underrated he's played every game he's played every game in the 10 but he's getting loads applauded so that's not underrated what do you mean he's getting loads of applauded he's not underrated he's not isn't he a highly talented teenager at Fulham I don't think he was I've never heard of him he's from the academy

1:03:18Lewis Bowden:also he's a fucking good FPL pick if anyone wants to fucking yeah there's nothing wrong with saying I feel like everyone understands that he's a good player and he's playing well he's only played three games that's what I mean so he can't be underrated sort of thing yeah true there's no one underrating him yeah that's a stinker is Max Dalman underrated if anything he's more likely to be overrated than fall off

1:03:43Reev:sitting on the fence no I don't think Max Down is underrated you put him in your top 10 Wunderkins in the world he's only played a few games this year yeah he's played like 20 minutes there you go I think that's a stinker that's what I said yeah I didn't think so I think that's I was saying I think he's more likely he's more likely to be overrated now and then he'll fall off in the future than be underrated and fall off horrible man

1:04:06Lewis Bowden:stop picking on a king he's 18 that's a kid fucking adult no I think the Iwobi shout would have been perfect a year ago. Yeah, I agree with that. I think now everyone realises he's like one of their best players. And that's lazy, guys. It's Calvin Bassi. Calvin Bassi, I love you. I think you're fucking amazing. Tom's answer is always right. Does he qualify for England? He could fucking start for England. I'm not even joking. If he's English. I don't think he is, is he? I thought he was like Scottish. Is he? Oh, yeah, he might be because he played for Rangers, didn't he?

1:04:35Reev:Calvin Bassi is Nigerian. Fuck! There you go. Totally both. You can chat. Has he played for them? He did play for Rangers though, yeah.

1:04:43Lewis Bowden:He's born in Italy.

1:04:44Reev:Oh, there you go.

1:04:45Lewis Bowden:What the hell?

1:04:46Reev:What the hell in Natchez?

1:04:48Lewis Bowden:What the hell? Leicester 121s. Anyway, you can still change. Come back. Come back to England. He's only 25, by the way. Honestly, I really like it. I feel like Anderson gets a lot of the applaud at Fulham, but I think Bassey's better than him. I'm trying to see what team's next.

1:05:01Reev:Next, we've got... That's an interesting take. Everton. Oh, yeah. Will Hughes. Will Hughes. Doesn't play for Everton. wrong club there Everton I thought you said no you skipped the team oh no I skipped the team on here sorry my advice were there well you know my palace I've got a friend of the show Dwight McNeil oh that's a good show actually I've gone Jewsbury Hall where's where's my Everton right Beto he's not he called him a big stiff idiot like most of these people it's Dwight McNeil it's Beto it's Dwight McNeil Beto's good man Dwight McNeil's always solid of course it's Beto scored Beto is shit he's good man

1:05:39Lewis Bowden:I don't think you can have Dewsbury Hall he's well known as one of their best players just pay 40 mil someone say your play yeah he should be

1:05:47Reev:appreciated more

1:05:47Lewis Bowden:someone say your play and it's Dwight McNeil it's Dwight McNeil it's not I think it's James Garner someone say Garner he fills in at full back he's like well good no he's he's like a utility player Dwight McNeil he doesn't even play there you go

1:06:01Reev:he actually doesn't that's a great point he played all last season he's only been three games come on give me a break

1:06:06Lewis Bowden:you think Dwight McNeil is going to get game time this season.

1:06:09Reev:He'll get game time. He will get game time. In what? In the League Cup? No, come on. Super sub. They've got a very good front line now. Mate, it's Woke McNeil. He's not under. You were grieved with me until he started piping up. Sorry, I'm still in agreement. I said it was a decent shout, yeah.

1:06:25Lewis Bowden:Good boy. I think it's Beto. It's not Beto. It's fucking Beto. It's not Beto. Beto, believe me. Why do you think that, Lou? Why do you think Beto? Just because of what Tom says. I think... No, Tom does come into a lot because this is like our echo chamber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what? I can actually agree with you here

1:06:43Reev:because everyone thinks Beto's shit.

1:06:45Lewis Bowden:He is? Mate, that Leeds game, right? Oh my God. I'm not saying he's world class. The bloke, genuinely. I agree. He genuinely can't trap a ball. But he'll score a goal. Sometimes. Every now and again. When's he going to score a goal? Sometimes. Wolves. Ah, we got him. Yeah, we got him. The last game he just scored, actually.

1:07:06Reev:he's on 100 % success rate of the last game he just scored and with Jack Grealish Jack Grealish now assisting him getting more service he's going to put more goals away he'll score more than Yikoriz this year I'll take a bet no let's not I'll take that bet I don't want to do that say stuff you don't believe in say that beto who's next Crystal Palace

1:07:24Lewis Bowden:oh I've got Will Hughes Will Hughes he's definitely under 8 he is but he is

1:07:29Reev:he's a very vanilla no Will Hughes is so under 8 remember when he was coming through and he's friend of the show I have a better one. I've gone Chris Richards. Adam Wharton. Are you joking? I think he is. He's their best player. I think. He's going to go to Real Madrid. He's going to go to Real Madrid next season. I think he's one of the best sentiments in the league. Everyone knows that. That's why he's going to go Madrid.

1:07:50Lewis Bowden:What don't you. Every time we do an underrated list. He just doesn't get it.

1:07:54Reev:That is horrendous. Adam Wharton. What are you looking at? You picked their quite literal best. Highest ceiling playing at the club.

1:08:02Lewis Bowden:You picked their best player as underrated. That's crazy Explain that one's underrated He's linked with Real Madrid Like United Let him explain People have been quoted

1:08:10Reev:Like 100 million for him Explain, explain As they should Not everyone agrees Tom Who? Him What are you going about? You can't watch it He's fucking gaslighting The viewers now That's so bad That is pooping He just picked the best player Was he not picked as your best player In a few weeks ago? We literally said He should be starting for England

1:08:33Lewis Bowden:Every game and people agree with that oh mate come on if you're playing at my oh

1:08:43Lewis Bowden:Mickey Mouse if you've got the my weirdest for lack of prep you've got to dock in for that as well yeah that is I stanker

1:08:50Reev:okay yeah Will Hughes great shout Will Hughes is great shout but I've got a better one why do you mean why because he's got blonde hair and a blonde beard Will Hughes is vanilla

1:08:57Lewis Bowden:that's why he's underrated you know because everyone looks at him and goes oh Will Hughes mate he's quality he's technically very good

1:09:03Reev:I mean, that's very much like the Awobi shout in a sense of, a year ago, you could say he's underrated, but he's been one of their most consistent players for the entire season. No one ever talks about Will Hughes. No one spoke about Will Hughes. They do. They do. They do. There's a reason he plays every fucking game.

1:09:16Lewis Bowden:I actually did a TikTok yesterday saying the three most underrated players. Oh, Tom,

1:09:19Reev:don't we know about this, by the way? Yeah, asking people for help on press. Asking people for help in your TikTok. And then conveniently, conveniently, every player he's named in the comments. Yeah. What? Yeah. That's going to help. No, no. You know what, let's do this now. You've abandoned me when I came in, saying, oh, he's asking people how we should, and I was joking about this. Did I ask? Yes, you did. Right at the start, you say, who are the most underrated? And also, it doesn't matter if you ask, you've done a whole TikTok on it. You know you're gonna farm comments of players who are underrated.

1:09:48Reev:It's embarrassing. You came at Lewis for the exact same thing. No, it's fine, we're used to this. And then what, when he does it, it's all okay. It's okay, I'm gonna give you a nipple.

1:09:56Lewis Bowden:Mine, to prove - He's gonna allow us a nipple. Tom, thank you. A nipple?

1:10:05Lewis Bowden:To prove... So we did this list, what, two weeks ago? And it hasn't changed. To prove that, my Brighton player, look. Who's my Brighton player?

1:10:13Reev:Yeah, he's not there anymore. He's not even there.

1:10:15Lewis Bowden:So, suck a fart out my arse. You won't be no ****. How about that?

1:10:18Reev:Oh, that's a nipple.

1:10:20Lewis Bowden:Nipple alarm. Nipple alarm.

1:10:22Reev:Nipple alarm. He had a nipple. And you're lucky because I told you he wasn't there, that Brighton player, Matt O 'Reilly. I gave it up. Is it my say? I know he's left now.

1:10:31Lewis Bowden:I did this two weeks ago. My Palace players come on.

1:10:35Reev:Let me look at last updated, the time. Oh, last night. Wait a minute, click that and then. Oh my God, it's today. Oh, who would have thought? Four minutes ago. I changed Burn, I changed Burn to Murphy. Oh, he changed his list during the show. He changed his list. He changed his list. He changed his list. It's getting a howler after howler. God, I changed it earlier. I changed it earlier. You know, you changed it four minutes ago. Five minutes ago. It's serious.

1:11:03Lewis Bowden:I've been deleting players As I go

1:11:06Reev:Nipple alarm

1:11:08Lewis Bowden:Nipple alarm Nipple Nipple Yeah Anyway I've got a really good Palace show Kamada No stinker Moving on Stinker Shuttle So moving on to Chelsea

1:11:21Reev:Chelsea I've gone I think he's the best Carl Palmer Trev I think A lot of people think He's just a curly head Spanish prick But I think he's the Best left back in the world as Cucurella.

1:11:32Lewis Bowden:How is he underrated? Everyone thinks he's the best left back in the league. No, they don't. I think he's the best left back in the world.

1:11:38Reev:Deal. We were both getting them. What a shit. What's the point at your list? That is ridiculous. I'd like to say mine's, can I go next because mine's a bit worse? You can go whenever you want, mate. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to go Trevor Chalibur. I've gone Chalibur as well. So we did this like a couple of weeks ago and I've not looked at mine since. So I went with Nicholas Jackson. You can't change anything. Who would you say if he was still there? Come on, who would you say? I've got Cucurella, yeah, I think logically. Mike. Fuck yeah. Why have you said Cucurella? That's so - I think he's underrated.

1:12:06Reev:He's literally - You could have had Tosin and Raboya. I'll tell you why, because prior to the Euros last year, a lot of people did think he was genuinely shit. When are you building this? No, but that's my point. People don't realise how good he is. I think he still - Wasn't he in most people's team of the year last season? I think he still gets a lot of slander. For what? No, he doesn't. For what? What does he get picked on for? He's been a bit shit He's not shit I think he's the best left I think he's genuinely The best left back in the world Yeah which isn't crazy to say And everyone reads Also can we get Can we get a fucking timer on that Because when Last week we did Ultimate Premier League 11 And he said Kikarela left back We all went Oh that's disgusting No we didn't Yeah we did actually So now he's the best Left back in the world

1:12:53Lewis Bowden:Uh oh You copying me are we No because

1:12:56Reev:Because he chose him Over cold palmer Okay, I'll let you off with that one then. And Kaisada at centre mid. Yes, yeah, yeah. So what are you attacking me for? Say sorry. Because I don't agree with it. Say sorry. Say sorry. No, absolutely not. I don't agree with making Mark Cucurella an underrated suggestion. Move back into shot.

1:13:11Lewis Bowden:You're off camera. You could have had a better one that you've been going on about. Gusto? Yeah, Gusto's underrated. Let's go shout there. He's been a good shout. I think Cucurella is an absolutely stinking shout.

1:13:21Reev:Gusto started more games than Rhys James does this season. You told me he wouldn't play. Yes, he could have doubled down on that one and you missed the chance. Yeah, I did. I did. Wrong fullback. Yeah. I'm going to change my name to Gusto. Theo Gusto. What's next? Who have you said? Well, I said Nicholas Jackson. Next up is Burnley. Oh, fucking hell. Dubravka. Josh Allen. Who? Exactly. Josh Cullen. Cullen, you mean? Josh Allen? Cullen. The fucking quarterback. I've gone Cullen as well. Oh, well, obviously Lyle Foster. Yeah, he's underrated. You know what?

1:13:56Lewis Bowden:I think Bravka underrated, right? He's like, I think he's underrated.

1:14:00Reev:He's not one of the best players and he straight away. Yeah, but you know when you say De Bravka, like when he was at Newcastle, he's not like that. Everyone thinks De Bravka was just a bit. Did they? But he's a solid goalie. I thought he should have started all the football. He's a very good goal. Yeah, he should be in the Premier League. I think he's underrated. There you go, my point. Oh my God, man. Lyle Foster scored. Was he scored two now? Well, no. No, he scored one. He was disallowed. It was disallowed. Yeah, but we'll call it one and a half. It's not how football works. One in three. That's a good record.

1:14:28Reev:But you think he's the worst footballer to ever grace football. No, you said he was their most important player. That's why. No, that's Jake. That's Jake Livermore. And he's displaying that. Is he? By scoring goals. Right. Goal. No, just goal. For now. So we've gone with Cullen. Cullen, yeah. Just Cullen. No, Josh Allen, sorry. Josh Allen. Not Burnley. Brighton. Well, I went with O 'Reilly.

1:14:51Lewis Bowden:Matt O 'Reilly. I think if I was doing one now. Van Hecker. Henshelwood. I've got Van Hecker as well. Why aren't you all arguing he's not their best player? Yeah, he's the most important player. I don't remember that. I wasn't part of him. We did. We did. Did I say that? Yeah, because you said Believer and we were like, no, Van Hecker. I wasn't involved.

1:15:08Reev:You put Van Hecker as their best player. Yeah, most important. I can be underrated. You can be underrated and the most important, I think. Don't think that's true.

1:15:14Lewis Bowden:Van Hecker's not underrated. What are we doing here? Like, you're picking... Van Hecker's underrated. At least I picked a player

1:15:19Reev:that plays fucking Brighton, mate. You're picking like players who are commonly known.

1:15:22Lewis Bowden:You picked a Marseille player. You're picking players who are commonly known as like the top three players. What do you go for?

1:15:29Reev:I went for Hinshelwood. Yeah, that's kind of nice. I think he gets used everywhere. I will copy that. Hinshelwood. Check Hinshelwood. Van Hegel. Isn't he still like 19 or something? Very young still. Wonder kid. Wonder kid. Yeah, could have been. Who did you go for again? Van Hegel. Nicholas Jackson. But I said at least Believer was the most important player a couple of weeks ago. So at least I'm consistent a little bit. Yeah, true. Yeah, you're allowed off. No, I don't need you to let me off long, Larry. You didn't even have a Brighton player. Brentford. It's so easy. It's so easy. Mikko Damsgaard.

1:15:58Reev:Sharder. Recall Henry. Oh, okay. Sharder. I feel like Damsgaard is there most in a three. What? Recall Henry. I think Damsgaard is sort of touted to be the guy that fills in in that hole now. Damsgaard is not underrated. He's rated, whereas Sharder, especially towards the end of last season, started banging in goals and sort of went under the radar with the likes of Visser and Mbwemo. You have two players for a lot of these. Yeah, because it's underrated and overrated. That's what I've done as well. That's why I've been deleting them. I think Shard's underrated. I think he's come in there and just made that left side.

1:16:26Reev:I think you can pick anyone from Brentford because that's the whole point.

1:16:28Lewis Bowden:I went Lewis Potter. Potter. What? I like Lewis Potter. What's wrong with that?

1:16:39Reev:How often is he getting game time at the moment?

1:16:41Lewis Bowden:I'll tell you. I don't know. Let me know. Oh, sorry. Let's just pick Dam's God. They're best player. He's going on the offense. and Shardou instead. Dam's guard's probably not their best player.

1:16:49Reev:Who is? Probably Kelleher, really, if you're breaking it down.

1:16:52Lewis Bowden:Oh, good answer. Who picked Henry? Louis? Louis? He hasn't even played, has he? That's why he's underrated.

1:17:01Reev:Should be starting, Tom. Louis Potter's played every game this season. Thank you. So, say sorry. You were on my side! Yeah, but he found out he was attacked. At least he didn't say anything. You said attack. I said Potter, attack.

1:17:13Lewis Bowden:Louis Potter's good for Brentford. I don't understand. Yeah, I know we're picking players that are good. Yeah, I know, but you laugh. Why is he not underrated? The fact you've laughed proves it. Rico Henry's a crazy show. No, it's not. He should be starting. He hasn't played for you in ages. Isn't he injured? Did he ACL? So he's underrated?

1:17:31Reev:He's actually played every game this season. What? He just said he hasn't played. He's played every game this season. I'm chatting shit. He didn't start the last two. Well, it's very different to what you said before when you said he didn't play. Rico Henry is good, though. He's played 90 minutes in a win against Bournemouth. Yes, in the league, can't be still played football this season. And he started the first game of the season. Well, that's very different to what you just said. He hasn't started the last two Premier League games. He got 90 minutes against Bournemouth in the EFL when they won 2-0.

1:17:58Reev:Oh. Rico Henry, see? With a 7.2 rating. Thank you very much. This is 72 rating. I will take the victory. Lom Larratt, you can apologise. Lom Larratt. I didn't say anything.

1:18:09Lewis Bowden:I think Kevin Shard is a really good shout, personally, but each to the right. Luis Potter's better than Rico Henry anyway, so that's where he starts. You said Rico Henry was mental and then you said... Yeah, because he's been injured for so long. Rico Henry's like... So did you say something? Not say something. He's gaslighted him. I said he's gone back and forth. Rico Henry's a good player, but to call him underrated when he's been in and out of football for, what, 18 months? I think he's a bit crazy. Because we don't know how good... We don't know how he's come back, do we? No one's talking about Kevin Shardow,

1:18:37Reev:which means it was a great shout. Moving on to Bournemouth. I've got maybe the best shout of this in the whole segment. Go on then. David Brooks. That's who I've gone with. David Brooks. What a minute. I think there's two for Bournemouth. Ryan Christie. I've got one.

1:18:51Lewis Bowden:I haven't gone for Christie.

1:18:53Reev:Because everyone in the comments of your TikTok chose Ryan Christie. Christine, obviously, you didn't. Ryan Christie.

1:19:00Lewis Bowden:Also, last time we did this, I said Christie.

1:19:03Reev:Yeah, that's what I mean. You can't just keep reusing the... I don't think Brooks is that underrated. Oh, he definitely is. No, I don't think he's that good. He's obviously a blind and easy one. He's had a really good season. I've been Ilsen. She's retired, mate Evan Nilsson Evan Nilsson Evan Nilsson

1:19:19Lewis Bowden:The£50 million striker who starts every week I loved him every time he came in Is he their record signing? Yeah, probably Top player Fair enough Yeah, I've got Alex Scott Who did you two say? David Brooks Yeah Anyway Yeah, it's Evan Nilsson £40 million Their record transfer is underrated Yeah He doesn't choose his transfer fee Worry about his ability here But do people not rate him? Where do you put him? I think the two best players at Bournemouth are You're basically on my opinion because you're always right I don't think I don't think I think he's always right

1:19:54Reev:He still doesn't get it yet You were always correct He's been wrong a lot this segment to be fair No, that's the thing though It's confusing He's wrong but he's right Sorry, I didn't mean to say that Sorry, Tom Aston Villa Now, I Let me guess Morgan Rodgers No Kamara Who do you think is the best sentiment there?

1:20:11Lewis Bowden:It's Kamara

1:20:12Reev:Yes, and that's exactly Exactly why. Telemans is my shout.

1:20:16Lewis Bowden:He's their best player last season.

1:20:18Reev:We put him in the team of the season. How can he be their best player last season, but then you call Kamara their best centre mid? Because Kamara was out for a while, but Telemans was their best performing player. But that's my point. That's my point. But no one ever said Telemans.

1:20:29Lewis Bowden:What are you on about? Telemans was getting loads of shouts of player of the year. He was in the team of the season last year. Why does Kamara have to be less good for Telemans to not be underrated?

1:20:39Reev:The misunderstanding is, we said Kamara was their most important player. Right, okay. It doesn't make him their best player, is the difference. Yeah, I know. Because Morgan Rodgers, you would say, That's what I'm saying. That's why I think Telemans goes a little bit under the radar. I really don't think you would. Who gets applauded as a Villa? Morgan Rodgers. And Telemans last year. No, Kamara doesn't. Martinez. No, Kamara doesn't. But this is the exact reason why mine is actually a good shout now. It's John McGinn. John McGinn. People forget about him. I went with Tyrone Mings. No one ever forgets about John McGinn.

1:21:08Reev:I went with the centre bar. You've just listed Five players from Aston Villa there And not mentioned him Or Telemans Because he's a fucking meatball

1:21:15Lewis Bowden:McGinn's not a bad shout

1:21:16Reev:Tyrone Mings

1:21:17Lewis Bowden:Tyrone Mings yeah He's really good for Villa When he plays Powell Torres Doesn't get a game He's a fucking Very good centre-back He got ruined at Brentford He can't ruin He's a good veteran man He's a good fucking defender Powell Torres is good

1:21:31Reev:But he's underrated He's not underrated You just call him shit No I didn't say he's not playing I didn't say shit He's contra Mings I'm being underrated consistent enough though he only played 21 games last year that was injury I know that's my point he got Clark's first game of the season he does get injured he gets red cards but I yeah I mean he misses

1:21:49Lewis Bowden:my point is he misses a lot of games yeah but when he plays he's good for Villa and he keeps Torres out of the team which is Torres is a well established well how much did they spend on power Torres like 40-50 million like a lot of money he's only played up until this season he played 22 games in the last two years yeah he was injured wasn't he yeah I know that's my point so he can't be underrated because he got injured a few years ago I'm just asking. 31 mil.

1:22:10Reev:I'm just trying to provide conversation to this. No, no.

1:22:13Lewis Bowden:And I'm responding to your question. Why are you attacking me for? I don't think I'm attacking. You're being very angry. Very angry, yeah. I'm responding to your question going, I don't think he's not underrated just because he was injured. That's how you said it. Just less frowning. Yeah. Say it with a smile. I've got wings. What were you arguing about? What did you say? I don't know what he's arguing about. I was raising a point. Theo's chose Villa's best player last season. He's an underrated player. Oh, right. Yeah, we know that. Very cheap, that.

1:22:37Reev:I was saying I just raised a point about how Mings can be inconsistent with his game time and injuries and red cards and what not which is why I think he gets underrated there you go that's all he had to do it actually backed my point up obviously they signed him yeah Pal Torres for 31.5 million pounds he's a good player I don't understand I feel like not playing and being underrated comes hand in hand he was he was he lost his spot yeah because Mings is so underrated Or is Paulo Torres Underrated And that's why He's not getting started Right Finally we've got The Arsenal Finally I actually I haven't got ones Written down for you This is the last one Oh I've actually got one There's actually I think there's two obvious ones

1:23:20Lewis Bowden:I've got one But I don't even know If he's underrated anymore

1:23:23Reev:I put a very early Shout out for him But I put Mosquera Based on what I saw At the Liverpool game

1:23:28Lewis Bowden:That's not a bad shout out I don't know enough of

1:23:30Reev:Well I don't underrate Anyone else in the club I think You know when we did our Underrated signing when we did the underrated signers no one mentioned him no one and I think if you look how we've played he's been one of our better players in every single game he was one of our better players in Liverpool as well Supermendor underrated he is he is I don't think that's funny because everyone's talking about him short afternoon builder in Europe you were talking about being one of the best Madrid wanted him Liverpool wanted him you've got him for 50 odd million but when we see him play no one really mentions him in the game see that's exactly what he's doing he's going under the radar in the game you don't really talk about him he was one of our better plays against Liverpool.

1:24:07Reev:Arsenal fans are really great. That is his role in the match. But that's my point. And then even when we talked about the top 10 best signings, no one mentioned him. Because he's not flashy. There you go, son. Yeah, but that doesn't make him underrated. He plays every game for Spain. So does Marino. What? So does Marino. Marino would be a better underrated show. I said two names earlier. I said I was going to say two names. Marino's the other one. Okay. Just bagged a hat trick. He did actually, yeah.

1:24:37Lewis Bowden:I went Calafiore Very rated I think that's a howler I think you should walk out of this room That's fine I struggled with Arsenal It was a difficult one I genuinely I couldn't write one down I really don't know who you'd say You put no one Maybe you'd go Mourinho But is he underrated? I don't think so I think he's quite rated I think Mourinho would be a decent shot I don't position I think naturally Normally when you're a bigger team There's a big spotlight on you That's the best utility thing again They're all quite rated I don't Do you actually think you have a player? who's underrated. That's why I put my scorer because people don't remember.

1:25:07I only want to be Calafuri because obviously Skelly

1:25:10Lewis Bowden:come in last year got load of plaudits playing left back and he got kind of forgotten about and he's coming this year and he's got his place back so I don't know. That's fair.

1:25:16Reev:I think he's first choice though. Do you reckon? Yeah. I hope he's not because I want Skelly playing for the World Cup. We've spent a lot of money on him.

1:25:24Lewis Bowden:We've spent a lot of money. He's also versatile for that left-hand side centre half. Maybe Yikarez is underrated by me. No. Because I think he's fucking shit. That makes no sense.

1:25:33Reev:That's the opposite of underrated. So you overrate him. Underrated by me because I think he's shit. Yeah. So you don't rate him.

1:25:39Lewis Bowden:Yeah, so he's underrated. He's overrated. So you're saying you don't rate him, but he is good? That's what you're saying. I'm saying to the outside people, he might be underrated compared to what I'm saying about him.

1:25:50Reev:Be interesting to let us know who you think for every single club is their underrated player, guys. Obviously, you lot will obviously be correct. And I would like to read all your comments and see how correct you all are. Oh, that was an angry bite to the viewers, wasn't it? Yeah, it fucking was. Me too. Sometimes you've got to let them know. You let them know this time. I'm not that angry at them at the moment. Nah, you guys are all right sometimes.

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