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23:43Faith is a really big part of your background. You touched on it a little bit. Does it show up for you in your life today still? Yeah, just in a different way. I think here's the thing. I've like always had a pretty strong faith. My relationship with the church has definitely like ebbed and flowed. But even when I was like so out of it and couldn't even hear a worship song. It literally made me want to punch someone in the face. Even at that point, I still personally had what I felt was a strong connection with God. I don't know if you feel this way, but I think religion and a relationship with God can be two separate things.

24:22Totally. They're very different, and they've always been very different to me. There's just been times where I've been more involved with church, and I think that's really where things go south. And also, I love the church. I think there's so many amazing things about it. I don't go religiously. I'm not always there, but I definitely see the pros. I've made some of my best friends. I met Dom there. Definitely. It's been a journey for sure. Yeah. But it is something that as much as I like try to get away from it, it's always there. Like as much as I try to get as far away and I have no interest, I somehow always find my way back.

24:55So I think I just kind of have to stop fighting it. There's just something. I don't know. I actually have never asked you this. Did you grow up in a religious household or how did church become so important to you? So I didn't grow up in a very religious household. We would go on like Christmas and Easter occasionally. And then my parents had a really bad divorce when I was in middle school. And around that time I had friends really inviting me to youth group. Right. So I go to youth camp. I'm obsessed. I'm dating the pastor's son within a week. Of course. Classics. The most me thing that's ever happened and I like make all these friends and I like loved it so I started going on my own and then I had a pretty bad like traumatic experience there and I stopped going I ended up moving to LA and I ended up in a bible college which is like so backwards and crazy so I didn't grow up in it it was always my own thing which I think is largely why it's always been more of a relationship like I didn't grow up in like a religious environment right and I've always been a very progressive person so like i've never been like a conservative religious but like that's never been my thing which is another issue that i've had so like it's very layered do you pray it's crazy like i just got a second place in nashville and i had always had this feeling that i was going to end up in nashville at some point in some capacity i didn't really feel like it was going to be full time i just didn't know what that was going to look like normally you know me i'm so decisive the second i have a feeling about something i do it but for some reason i was No, it's not yet.

26:23So actually March of 2020, we were in Nashville when COVID hit and I just bought my house in Texas. And I had this feeling immediately. I was like, oh my God. And I have these specific feelings about moving always. I was like, I'm going crazy. I just bought a house in Texas and I feel insane. But I just kind of clocked it in the back of my head. I was always like, there's like something in Nashville. I don't know what it is, but like eventually. Fast forward to February of this year, I was visiting some friends in Nashville. I was there last minute. I wasn't even supposed to be there. I booked my flight like a day before I was supposed to be there for two days.

26:55I was there for six. And I had that feeling, but it was way stronger this time. How do you describe the feeling? It's just a really strong gut feeling. To me, if something is a God thing, it's something that's like coming into my mind that like I'm not really trying to orchestrate. Like I wasn't trying to like actively move to Nashville at that point. And all of a sudden I started thinking about things a lot. Like it was coming to mind a ton. And it wasn't something that like I necessarily like wanted either. So in February I was there. and I was talking to a friend and I was saying like, I don't know what it is, but I just feel like I'm supposed to do it sooner rather than later.

27:28I think this is like the shift that I need to make in my life. I just have this like very strong gut feeling, but I also have this weird feeling that like if it's meant to be, it's gonna be easy. And I don't really subscribe to that like idea of life in general, but for some reason, I just really felt strong. I mean, if it's supposed to happen, it's gonna happen. In that conversation, he gets a text from his landlord because there's two guest houses on this property. He gets a text from his landlord that that guest house was opening up the date that I wanted it. So I was like, that's so crazy because all the other issues that I had too were all solved by living in that house, like specifically versus like another apartment or something in Nashville.

28:05So it was so crazy, but it was like, I prayed about it that week. And literally within days it happened and it came together so seamlessly to the point where I was like, that was the craziest thing that's ever happened to me. Do you ever get signs? Yes. Do you get signs? Okay, so I grew up without a lot of religion in my life at all. And I would say even without faith. And I'm like culturally Jewish. And then I moved to LA and I met this guy. I actually had him on the podcast, so I won't recount it, but his name is Steve Carlson. And he was the GM of NBC and he was Mormon. and I watched how he lived his life and I'd never been in such admiration of somebody.

28:44And it was around the same time that I started reading books like Oprah. That was the first time I picked up self-development. And a lot of these people that I was admiring virtually or up close had some sort of faith. They were all different religions. Some didn't even have religion, but they had faith in something. In Farsi, like God means the deepest part of you. And I always have loved that idea of it. And I thought, I wonder if I'm missing something, because all these people I admire have such deep faith. And I worked on it, and I worked on it, and it would come, and it would go, and I would waver, and I would be skeptical, and then I would feel something.

29:20And it wasn't until I dated the last boyfriend I had. He was Catholic, and he had such a beautiful relationship with God. And I thought, whoa. It clicked for me. And we don't necessarily worship the same God. I don't know. like maybe we do it's the universe I'm not sure what it is but ever since I became mindful like and noticing signs have shown up in my life that was the long story to say like yes and even though I noticed them I'm still skeptical because like the inner child in me is like is this for real but by the way I'm still like that you are oh my god still yes I still am like I don't know is this real and I go through months where I am so disconnected and then I'll get back that's what I mean by something always pulls me back in.

30:02Like there's always something, but I still have that. Even when I think I see something that I feel like is a sign or I get this idea out of nowhere, it's actually something I was praying about and it's actually answered. I'm always like, but was that an answer prayer or was that just a coincidence? Always. Yeah. Right. Even if none of this is real, I would rather live with the hope that it is because it gives you something to believe in that's greater than yourself. That's supposed to be bringing people together. Now, of course, religion historically and even now is being used in a very negative way where it's doing the complete opposite of that and oppressing people.

30:34And that is not what I subscribe to. But I think it's a really beautiful thing to believe in something bigger than you. Another thing, too, that my family and I talk about with grief is that when you have a loss that is so close to you and so catastrophic and feels like a part of you is ripped out, you almost have this like sixth sense where you feel God so much closer to you even though you're like so angry and want like nothing to do with him but there's just so many things in life that I feel like I have it's weird to say a vantage point of because like obviously it's not a positive but I feel like I can see things a lot clearer it's like grief does this thing where it makes everything in the world so foggy you can't think straight I still have such bad brain fog like this when we were recording, like my brain fog is just so bad.

31:20I can't even like speak normally still. But at the same time, you have this clarity of like understanding what really matters, what's worth your time. Anything that I was confused about, like relationally or with people in my life before, I think it was over time abundantly clear to me what the answers were. And I think a lot of that has to do with grief. I think it all kind of goes into this like spiritual realm, whatever it is, where you just have this like understanding when you experience such loss and you yourself are like crashing to a billion pieces and having to be like put back together.

31:54You talk about your brother a lot on your podcast. Is it hard to talk about him? It depends on my vibe that day. Like some days I just can't at all and other days, if I can talk about it publicly, if I feel a little more removed, like today I feel a little more removed. I find a lot of healing in it and like connecting with other people and grief has been like beneficial to me. That's not everyone's experience, but I feel a little bit of healing, I think. Did you lose friends? Oh my God. Because you felt like people didn't show up for you? Yes. That was my friend breakup. That's why it was so catastrophic and like painful.

32:31I would say I didn't lose many other friends because I felt that way. I think I just changed. Like you're so different. At the core, I think I've always been the same, but grief changes you in so many different ways and I just like didn't have the energy for like so many other things so you lose friendships in that way I feel like overall like my friends really showed up one of the things I love about my friendship with you is that you're Gen Z and I'm a millennial I'm wondering what you think our great divide is like what do you notice is our biggest differences one I think that Gen Z there's this like narrative around them being like very lazy and not wanting to work and listen like that is true i can see it but i also think that gen z is like brilliant and i think that they have so many good ideas and that there's so much coming that's like great from gen z i think what's happening to with gen z is that gen z is like way over correcting millennials wait over correcting what what did we do like we wore our parents side parts no like think about like even something like boundaries right where like that wasn't really talked about in generations prior to millennials right and then like i feel like gen z really took boundaries and ran with it so much so to the point where like they are losing all their friendships by way of having quote boundaries but really they're just being selfish and not wanting to like show up for other people or like being a part of a village like they don't want to do that i honestly think that they just need to respect each other more because like i agree i think that's what it is a lot to learn from each other and like millennials paved the way have some respect and gen z like isn't dumb and lazy have some respect.

34:02You know what I mean? I think that's what it is. I think you guys know a lot more than we did. Do you think that's because of the amount of access we have like media wise? I think the internet helped. I think like what was formerly known as Twitter helped in some ways too because you guys were like thinking in sound bites. You understood how to be concise, how to be clear. The idea of building a brand which like every person is sort of a brand in some ways is so clear to you guys? I think that's largely. Access to therapy. Although I have a hot take on boundaries. What do you think? I don't love them.

34:36Okay. I think a lot of times when you are thinking about putting up a boundary, you're not coming from a place of love. Gary Zukav talks about it and he can say it much more eloquently than I can. Listen, if something is super toxic or violent, that's not included. But like, I tried putting up boundaries with my mom and I have to tell you, I'm way happier just having things roll off my shoulder and laughing and being like, you're so nuts. I love you. Instead of putting the boundary up and then being mad and not talking for a little. I think we use therapy talk as a weapon, which is quite literally the opposite of what you're supposed to be doing.

35:16Right. I think boundaries have a place, and I think they're good in areas. I really do think we just have become too self-focused and we don't prioritize our relationship with other people nearly as much as we should. Showing up and actually having long-lasting friendships and relationships and close family relationships does come at a cost. Like you do have to make sacrifices. You do have to be uncomfortable. You do have to put your stuff on the back burner. I don't think it's just about it. I think it's therapy speak in general. And I think it's really weaponized in order to like validate our emotions versus actually like process them and work through it and get to the other side.

35:53I think instead, more often than not, what's happening is that people are using their therapist and their therapy speak to like reiterate their point that they're right and everyone else is wrong around them. I think that's really what's happening. And I think it's detrimental to our relationships. And that's why we have this like loneliness epidemic because people are not willing to be a friend. They want all of it, but they don't want to do it themselves. So interesting you say that. I saw this woman, Mo Diggs, put up a video where she said that when you see a woman who's like throwing a dinner or any event and you see a lot of people show up, know that that's a woman who has shown up a lot of times, who has said no to herself sometimes in order to say yes to other people.

36:36And I do think that's the case sometimes. And I think you just have to find the right people to show up for. So it doesn't feel like it's a cost. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can't do that for everyone in your life. So like there is a quote boundary when it comes to like certain people who are just not. The inner circle. Yeah. I think that that's what it is. I think with your inner circle, it's of course like in good health. But I think that the conversation needs to be around like showing up for people and being there and being a friend versus like how to have boundaries. Also, people aren't perfect.

37:07Let's like relax a little bit. I feel like you go with your gut. Like you go with your intuition a lot. How do you determine what's intuition versus what's anxiety? Oh my God, this has been the question I've asked myself my entire life. I think one of them is louder. For me, what I've realized is that for so long, I was so busy listening to everyone else's voice in my life and not my own. And I didn't even have like a relationship with myself. I didn't know what I wanted because I'd relied on everyone else to tell me. So I started spending a lot of time alone. I started journaling. Even when I was obsessed with like self-help, I was still listening to all the outside voices.

37:43So I had to almost like try a little less and just get quiet and get to know my voice better or like what I believe to be like God's voice or whatever. I had to spend time alone and get to know myself to even understand that. I also kind of want to say it's like one's out of fear and the other one isn't. But I think fear and being scared are different. Like I think anxiety is out of fear. You can have a gut feeling and be nervous and you can be scared but I think when you're making a decision out of fear you're making it out of like feeling insecure I don't think there's like one easy blanket answer but I do think a lot of it comes from like getting quiet I think a lot of our answers in life come from like just being quiet with yourself which is the last thing that any of us want to do so it's not the fun answer but I think for me that's what's worked me too that's why like we always get good ideas in the car in the shower.

38:34It's not like a coincidence. It's places where we either don't have our phone or we're quiet. Yeah. Friend of mine feels like such a natural extension of your aesthetic and your values. What was the first seed of the idea? I had wanted to do a recipe journal for like the podcast merch years ago. And I kept saying like, we need to do recipe journals. We need to do recipe journals. And like with merch, you can't really just create a full product. That's not really how that works. So what's a recipe journal? It's a journal for recipes. So like you fill in your own recipe. Oh, cool. So that was like our very first product.

39:06And that's what I really wanted to do. And over time, then I got really into hosting and I really wanted like a tabletop line. There was just so many things. And then as time went on, I started to think this is a brand. This isn't just like a single merch product. So it really started from there. And I had a brand before that we had shut down. And looking back now, if I could tell myself, like I knew that it wasn't what I was supposed to be doing, but I was people pleasing, which is so unlike me. I'm not a people pleaser. The day it launched, I was like, I just don't think this is the right fit.

39:39And again, it goes back to, I just thought I was nervous. I thought I was just afraid because I couldn't tell if it was anxiety or if it was a gut feeling. And I felt like it was anxiety the whole time. Looking back now, I now see that it was a gut feeling. We did that for about a year and then we just wanted different things. So we ended up shutting that down. And literally the day that we closed that company or we decided that we were going to close I had 1 ,000 ideas and I was like alive again and I was so excited and I'd already contacted so many people about logos and brandings and websites I just like knew that that was what I was supposed to do but looking back that was my biggest lesson and like that was an anxiety that was a gut feeling but I was ignoring myself because I didn't want to disappoint people around me which is not their fault like that was completely me.

40:24But now I know. Now you know that you're Martha Stewart. No. And now like I want to be Martha Stewart.

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43:44what's been the most unexpected challenge to launching a brand I don't even think anything unexpected I think it's just hard like it's so hard it's so hard and it wasn't something that I didn't know going into it I'm trying to think of something I shouldn't say it's so hard it takes everything out of you. Yeah, I agree with that because I don't feel like what I'm doing is killing me because it's like giving me energy because I love it, but it's not an easy thing. But I think that just shows like I'm doing like what I meant to be doing. And I feel that way about all of my friends who are entrepreneurs.

44:18It's like the hours and the amount of like blood, sweat and tears, and I'm financing all of it, like all my money, everything comes back to me. Like if we're not paying, it's a lot of like mental energy, but I just love it so much that I don't feel drained from it. When I launched Question Everything, I only ordered 200 card games because I was so nervous no one would buy them. And I thought, well, at least I could sell 200 to friends and family. I know 200 people that could buy a card game, I think. And on Shopify, which is a website where you sell things, you can see all the orders that come in.

44:49And so I go live, I put the video up on Instagram, and you hear the little ka-ching, ka-ching, like the things. It's the best sound on Shopify, right? And I look to see who bought them. First of all, my mom didn't buy one. None of my family members bought them. None of my good friends bought them. The first, I would say, 30 to 40 people who bought were female entrepreneurs. Some of them that I knew well, some that I didn't know well at all. And I knew in that moment why they bought the card game. And it was because they knew how hard it was to do anything, you know, and they had respect. So now when anybody I know launches anything, even if I don't want it, I'll gift it.

45:28I'm their first buyer. I buy anything anyone launches. Like I am always buying it. I feel that. It's never the people closest to you that are really like the most supportive with your business. It's always the people who are like almost like two people removed. Like not so close, but they are the most supportive, especially people who understand and building a small business. I have this hosting closet that's like this really, really extra closet where I keep all of my stuff to host. In this closet, it's wallpaper, by the way, I have a cookbook wall and I keep like recipe journals there and I keep a bunch of cookbooks.

46:01And I saw that I had like a Wishbone Kitchen cookbook and it was like a paper cookbook. And I'm like, when did I get that? I happened to see, cause she just launched a new cookbook. She made a video saying forever ago, I published my own cookbook. I bought 500 copies. I did it on TikTok and like now it's so crazy because now I'm doing this whole cookbook and I'm so excited about it. Now she's a New York Times bestseller. It launched last week. I don't even know her, by the way. Like we've literally never spoken. And so I guess years ago, I didn't connect the dots that that was her because I wasn't like actively following at that point.

46:31I just saw this girl on TikTok with this cookbook and I bought it. But like that is a female entrepreneur. Like you are just constantly buying things because like I've sold so much product in the past. Like I understand it. So I am like the first to buy. Yep. Always. Always. I don't know a lot about hosting. The only things I know are from Priya Parker's book, The Art of Gathering. She taught me that it's not good to be a lazy host, which I think I used to be in the past. Because I thought I was a chill host, okay? Yes. I thought I was like, wear whatever you want. I don't care where you sit. And Priya Parker taught me, no, like rules are actually a gift to people when you're hosting.

47:09What is your best lazy girl hosting tip? A theme. I think a theme saves the day and it makes people get so much more involved in it. Most recently, I've been going through and hosting a dinner party to every Nancy Meyers movie. And it's been so fun because people come and they dress up as characters. And I say lazy because like it is lazy. Like you have a theme and then everything is kind of set for you. It makes it easier on you, makes it easier on the guest. And we actually started with Christmas time. During Christmas, I did a dinner party that was a holiday theme, which is my favorite movie ever.

47:42and it was so fun. Like all of us came dressed up as like different characters and we had like Christmas fettuccine and I had Aveline wine because that's Cameron Diaz's wine. Like it was so fun and it does feel like you're going the extra step but really it's lazy because everything's planned for you. Like you actually have like structure and your guests are more likely to get into it when they have a theme. Okay, I like that. You have a template almost. Literally. We actually on the front of my website, we have a hundred hosting theme ideas that you can just like download because I'm so passionate about themes.

48:12Like, it makes it so much easier, especially when you're in your 20s. Like, your friends don't really know how to be a guest. Like, you can tell who grew up in, like, a southern home or, like, a mom that hosts based on, like, when they're coming out. Like, immediately I can tell. But they don't really, like— How? Tell me. They're bringing a hostess gift. Okay. They're saying thank you so much. They're bringing things. They'll never just show up. They're always on time. I never really cared about that. This is something I like to do. But you can tell, like, immediately. Like, always. What's your favorite hostess gift?

48:40gift okay i personally like love a candle because i'm always burning candles i love an olive oil i love an olive oil i think friend of mine's a perfect hosting gifts actually those are the best but i think olive oil and i also love flowers like i love getting flowers that's nice so i think that those are sweet i heard in a garden say this once and i think it's such a good tip when it comes to hosting gift don't bring anything as a gift that you are running out and serve that night because it's an extra responsibility on the host and it's like ruining kind of like their like feng shui unless you bring it and it's already plated and ready to go and you don't even need to grab anything from them i think a true good hostess gift is something that they are going to use later yeah i agree with you something martha stewart taught you oh my god i mean literally everything she is such a trailblazer and just does not care like truly truly does not care and just like does whatever she wants.

49:38I think Martha Stewart has just taught me and probably millions of other women how to evolve. Because she published her first cookbook at 41. It was not a cookbook, it was an entertaining book. And she used to work on Wall Street. She left, she started a catering business. Then she launched this book. And then she's had prison time, she had many different eras. She's consistently evolving and evolving with the times. And I just love that. I feel like she's at the peak of her career at 80, which is incredible. And she doesn't let like age or anything take her out. Like she's just going until the end of time, which I really respect.

50:14And I think it's very cool because especially as women, you feel like you have like a ticking clock, whether it's fertility or age that you can be on camera or whatever it is. And like Martha has defied all those odds. And I just think that's so cool, especially when she's so ahead of her time for that. I love that you love older women so much. I'm obsessed with them. yeah literally obsessed finish this sentence the older i get the more i realize i know nothing a book that changed your life something you think everybody should read the gap and the gain the what the gap and the gain i've never heard this it's amazing it's amazing if you are an enneagram three an overachiever first daughter it talks about why you never feel like you're doing enough or achieving enough or producing enough or whatever like it teaches you how to live from the gain versus the gap it's so good incredible as an oldest daughter i need to read okay one Something every woman should try once.

51:04Oh my gosh. What would you say? An incredible love affair. Like even if it's for a weekend. I agree. I think you should like go to Europe and just like have a time. Just have a time. Just have a time. I'm trying to think of something I've actually done. I think spending like an extended period of time, it doesn't even necessarily have to be a move. But like if you really like a location, I think just spending a month there. Like maybe you fall in love. Just do something by yourself. Like I think that a month alone will change your life. I like that you said alone time. You can even do it if you're in a relationship with somebody.

51:34Totally. But like go for two weeks to a different location alone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, grab the question everything card game. Pick a card. Okay. What's your all-time most memorable meal? I'm almost shockingly not a foodie. Isn't that insane because I love cooking? Okay, but I don't actually mean the food. That's interesting. Yeah. Like the vibe. Which feels so right for you. I hosted this dinner party once and it was last summer. I always have like a Nancy Meyers playlist in the background. It was like a summer theme. We were talking and it was a really small intimate group of girls. I love to invite people over that I don't know.

52:10Like I think it's really cool to get like recommendations from other people. I think it just makes like hosting so much more fun. These were all girls that I'd really kind of just met. And they're all telling the stories of like how they met their husbands, their significant others or crazy things that have happened in their life. And one of them was telling this like beautiful story. It was an insane story of how she met her husband. and as she's telling the story, the music, it's all like movie scoring. It's getting louder and louder. So as she's telling this beautiful story, the music's in the background.

52:37It literally felt like you were in a movie. I think about that every time I'm in my dining room. It's crescendoing. Yes, it was so crazy and it really felt like it was a movie. I definitely have a better one that's more life changing. That's special though. That was a perfect answer. You don't need another one.

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55:49Throw the cards back and we're going to play a game called Host with the Most. Okay. I'm going to name a hosting situation. You have to answer really fast. What would you either do, serve, or say? Okay? Okay. You're hosting a last-minute dinner party. What's your go-to dish? Ina Garten engagement chicken. Three people dead or alive that you'd seat at your dream dinner table. Dolly Parton, Martha Stewart, Ina Garten. But I would put Martha and Ina on the opposite end. Actually, no, I wouldn't. I'd put them together. Make it more entertaining. You're curating a playlist. What's song number one? Anything on a Nancy Meyers playlist.

56:23Like, I'm always playing Nancy Meyers playlist. And they have a Nancy Meyers playlist, by the way, for everything. Bridal showers, parties, bachelorettes, dinners, music, morning, like all of it. What's one thing that instantly elevates a table? Dim lit candles. A hosting ick. People who flake right before. What's your signature drink? I've recently gotten really into an Ina Garten Cosmo, which I was not into them before. Okay, this works exactly for you because you just did this. You're in charge of a bridal shower activity. What are you doing? I think showers in general are like pretty choogy.

56:53Like, and they're not very fun. And like choogy is a choogy word. Now I understand that. But there's no other way to describe that. No, I agree. And like no one actually has fun at showers. I think we should like ban showers and do dinner parties and just change it as a whole. I'm in. Please. I'm like throwing a baby shower right now. We're like having the hardest time. There's definitely like cute things here and there. Baby showers are easier. Bridal showers are really hard to make fun and not choogy. They're literally so hard. And also, why are they in the middle of the day? I'm so tired. And then you have to have bright lighting.

57:24They're just not fun. Do you clean up as people are there? Do you wait till everyone's gone? I wait till everyone's gone. It's rude to start cleaning before. It's different when people, because I have friends who will just stay for hours. Like, please just, like, help me clean. Like, that's one thing. But I wait for everyone to leave before. Because once you start cleaning, that's a sign that you want them to leave. And, like, I don't want them to leave. So you shouldn't do that. Is there like an etiquette book? I would say The Art of Gathering is one. Like you don't want your dinner party to end by like 9 p.m.

57:49I hate when I spend like a week on a dinner party and I'm doing this whole thing. And then a friend is like, I'm tired. All right, guys, we're done. And it's like, you're done. Not everyone else. I just think it's so rude. Like I think that's such a... That's the faux pas. I hate it. I think it is so rude. Like it actually makes me so angry. I'm like, I've spent all this time. Like you don't want a dinner party to end by 9. Like that's not the sign of a good dinner party. But like one person can ruin it. Like one person can be like, I'm leaving. We should all go. Because like they don't want to miss out on something.

58:17I'm like, that is so rude. Charge me insane. Okay. This is a podcast speed round. Okay. This is social only. No overthinking. Fast answers. Ready? What's the worst thing someone can do on the mic? Eat. Best icebreaker question. You know what is a question that I like? Yeah. It's not really an icebreaker. But I think like best purchase you've made under$50 in the past month. I think that's such a fun one. That's a good Tim Ferriss. Okay. Most underrated podcast guest trait. Someone who like answers beyond the question, I think is like the best kind of guest you can get. So when you're interviewing them and they answer and they're just like smiling at the end, it's like make it more of a conversation to loosen up a little bit.

58:51Yeah, I agree. Like yes anding. Yes. Okay, most overused podcast phrase that you hear? Probably everything that I say. Everyone's been asking. Like it's more of like an influencer thing, but probably that. Your personal podcast pet peeve. I hate when someone has a guest on and they ask all the same questions that they've been asked a million times. If you're asking a question you can Google, you should not be doing that. One guest that made you totally rethink something. Susie Welch. Your go-to listen. World's First Podcast, my all-time favorite. I've never missed an episode. Okay, one more host thing.

59:25Is this just social, this or that? Charcuterie board or full sit-down meal? Full sit-down meal. Game night or deep conversation? Deep conversation. Please, my God. Ban game nights. Unless it's Mahjong. Gold flatware or vintage silver? Vintage silver. Wine and records or espresso martinis in a playlist? Now espresso martinis in a playlist. Host with a plan or host on vibes? Host with a plan. Take your shoes off or leave them on? Because I personally don't care at all that people have shoes on, but I think it's more comfortable when people take them off. Fresh flowers or candle overload? Candle overload.

1:00:00Instagrammable setup or cozy chaos? Instagrammable setup. Because cozy chaos is just like you being a lazy host. And as we know from the art of gathering, you don't want that. No, you don't want to be a chill host. You know what I love that she said in that book? Tell me. I am going to misquote it as I do literally everything that anyone's ever said in their life. She talks early on in the book about how you actually need to be exclusive and not invite everyone. I have noticed in myself that I've done a disservice to my guests many times by inviting either too many people or being too welcoming.

1:00:32And I should have curated the crowd a little bit better. And I've learned that now. This table that I have handcrafted and the people that are invited are invited for a reason because I think that like one of them would like the other person or they could learn something from each other or they're in similar fields or they read similar books. Like who I invite to each dinner party is like a perfectly crafted thing. And I will not be inviting everyone to everything anymore because I think that that is like a sign of a lazy host. And I have been a lazy host. I don't think it's lazy because I think you and I share this.

1:01:00We don't like people feeling left out. Yeah. And so it's a more like a come one, come all. but when you're hosting a specific theme, it's hard. Totally. And it makes people just like not as committed to like the night. Cause they're like, oh, come and go. And it's like, no, it's not come and go. It's seated dinner at 7.30. Like I said, you know, I'm like, I'm really chill. I swear. How do you really feel? That's the only time that I'm like actually uptight because it's disrespectful of everyone else's time. Like that's what makes me mad.

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