She Designed for Billionaires But Her Best Tips Are Free: with Celebrity Designer Nour El Nasrani

26:22They're, they're so humble they're so sweet so generous with their time and we developed an amazing product to the point where Susie she'll call me randomly and she'll be like Noor everyone compliments me on this she's a sweetheart everyone comes compliments me on this you're amazing she's like you're the most talented designer I know and I was like that's so sweet there's so many talented designers out there so she's just she just calls you to pump you she calls me to pump me up every time Susie calls me, I get an ego boost. Like I'm like, I'm feeling good today. Okay. Well, one of the other clients that stood out to me is David Goggins.

26:58Danielle:Yes. I love David Goggins. Me too. Okay. I just, for anybody who doesn't know, he's a retired U.S. Navy SEAL, ultra marathon runner, ultra distance cyclist, triathlete. He wrote the book, Can't Hurt Me. Yeah. And it kind of popped off because he had been through so much in his life and he decided you, nothing and no one can hurt me. It's mind over matter. Yeah. I know. Talk about mental toughness. Yeah. What is it like working with somebody like that in a design capacity? Yeah. I mean, I was nervous. Yeah. I was nervous. David is a force. He is amazing. And Jennifer too. They're amazing. And yeah, the first meeting we had, cause he's a no BS kind of guy.

27:40Right. He will call it how it is. And the first meeting I was nervous. I was like, this is David. I need to go, you know, I need to give him everything he doesn't know he needs. And the best thing about that project is they did not give me any direction. They really didn't. And that's why I was nervous because they were like, look, you're the professional. We hired you. Show us what you would do. And I was like, that's honestly scarier than when they tell you. I'm like, okay, challenge accepted. His unit had, we had to do a lot of remodel to it because the unit he had actually didn't even have a kitchen.

28:17And it's in a condo. It was a very weird layout. And we had to get really creative to get them a kitchen even. But the best moment I remember is I had just done my presentation of just something that I would design for me. And I had just done my presentation. And I don't think David was there. I think it was Jennifer. And she loved it. And she's like, I'll show it to David tonight. He was doing something much, much cooler, you know. And I get a call. And I had just met my husband. And I get a call and we were together. Me and my husband were in the car. I get a call at like 9 p.m. from a random number because he doesn't do phones.

28:55I don't know if you guys know this about him. And I answer and he goes, Noor, it's David Goggins. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, did he hate it? And he's like, I just want to tell you, you effing crushed it. And I was like, and he's on speaker. and my husband who was in the military too was like holy beep it's and I was just like this is so freaking cool you crushed it yeah he and he said it much more you know I'm not gonna I can't do you know what he does but he's so passionate and for his passion to for him to show me that passion about how much he loved it and then the next time I can say I can tell so many stories because these are so fun.

29:38But the next time we had a secondary meeting to finalize the rest of the house, he got so pumped. He threw the papers on the ground and he was hyping me up. And I was just like, this is truly amazing because it shows that this is what I would design for me that they loved it too.

29:56Danielle:Did his philosophy rub off on you at all? Oh yeah. I mean - Did you start running? You know, I was actually in cross country my whole life, but now I hate it. I hate running. And, you know, props to everyone who can. But, yeah, I mean, being around someone like that, it's hard not to. You know, you admire them so much that you're like that. But, you know, I've always grown up with that tough mentality. My dad is, you know, taught us to be resilient, to get up. You know, some may call it tough love, but I loved it because it taught me to be resilient. And it reminded me a lot of what he says. Yeah.

30:35Danielle:That's cool. Yeah. I can imagine for somebody like that, his space needs to be a sanctuary. Yes. Because he's doing a lot during the day. Yeah. So he needs to come home and enjoy the space that he's in. What are your rules for making a home a sanctuary? Number one, declutter. It's number one. Everything else. Throw everything. Start yourself from scratch. If it doesn't mean anything to you, toss it. But a sanctuary, it's really just a feeling. You know, if your day is so hectic, I usually tend to design the space to be a lot more zen and a lot less things around and a lot less, you know, perfectly styled all the time.

31:15It needs to give you a leeway to just whether you're lounging down on the couch, you know, and you get up, that couch still needs to feel like it's put together.

31:26Danielle:What do you think somebody's home says about them? Hmm. I mean, I think it really shows their personality. But like what do you think it says about their true self? It really shows how they are on their day-to-day life Like if your home is a little more eclectic to me Like you're probably a little more, you know fun and a little more open to risks You're a little more of a risk taker Oh interesting And if your house is a little more subdued, a little more, you know safe Like it also kind of says that about you that maybe you are a little safe in your day-to-day life But your personality shows, I mean, if a house is moody, that can tell you that person has that cool, you know, edgy vibe.

32:08But yeah, I mean, a space says a lot about you. I mean. Also what you value, right?

32:14Danielle:Like if you have certain art, it's like, okay, this person cares about art more than maybe they care about their tables. A hundred percent. That's great. Yeah, that's a great point. And also the functionality of the space, how you're using it. If you're valuing comfort over an aesthetic that like can't be touched really. So yeah, exactly what you value in this space is such a good one. Have you ever designed a space for somebody who only cared about aesthetic? Like they were like, I don't care how uncomfortable a chair is. I wish. I wish. Call me. I mean, yeah, no. Sometimes Jake Arnold's work looks like that to me.

32:50Danielle:Like I'm like, and I'm, it may be not, but I'm like, it's also perfect. Like how do you sit down? I know. Like his space for Chrissy Teigen and John Legend. Yeah. Oh my God. I know. Beyond. I feel like his, what I've seen, you know, it actually reads very comfortable. Okay. To me. But yeah, I can see, I can see some as a little more cutting edge. And I love, like they had that tree, like right in the middle of the house. Yes. But I love that. There's a fine line between that. And, you know, you may get that client that's like, I don't care. We'll, we'll deal with it. Yeah. You know, do what you do.

33:25and that's a dream client.

33:27Danielle:You have this quote on your Instagram bio that I really love. It says, if a place has a soul, it remains alive forever. Yeah. How do you give a place a soul? What does that mean? I love this quote. I saw it. I was in a hotel Villa Desta in Lake Como five years ago and I saw this quote. And since then I've like, this is so me. I'm like living by it. What to me, a place that has a soul can really show your character can really show that you you put your heart into it you're not afraid to put objects that someone else may not like you know it's it's you and for me if a place feels a little you know too what do they call it nowadays like beijian boring you know but it just it's adding your own like so hard to explain but i feel like a lot of my projects, I put my clients, like mine and their souls into it.

34:22I'm like, I want to bring you things that you truly enjoy and things that maybe like give you like a feeling when you look at them, like this art piece or this vase or this little fun chair in the corner. So just bringing in soul. And it doesn't have to mean that it needs to be colorful and eclectic, but you need to have some unexpected moments in there. You need to, you need it to feel unique to your person.

34:45Danielle:what emotional needs are you trying to meet when you create a space so this kind of goes i think this kind of goes back to like if you have a hectic day you know hectic life hectic work that you probably want your space to feel a little more zen and you know if your days are a bit more maybe a little less challenging i guess maybe you can have a little more fun in the house and dedicate a little bit more to that so we're always trying to give a feeling of home to be honest How do you think, because your home, you said, is very like wabi-sabi and zen, right? Yes. I'm trying. It's not a forever home, but I'm trying.

35:24Danielle:How do you design to solve for stress? Can you give me two or three examples? First and foremost is decluttering and having, let everything have its own space. Okay. So designating objects to spaces really helps because then you know where everything goes. So that kind of helps you de-stress and not being like, oh, why is everything, you know, all over? The other thing is colors, too. If there's a color that de-stresses you, some might be blue, some might be green, some might be white, you know. And we do have a lot of, you know, white in our house, too. And to me, it just calms me, those colors.

36:04And then you have to bring in a little contrast in that. But, you know, and beyond that, it's really the layout, the layout of the space. You need enough, you know, movement room. You need enough, you know, egress, like to walk around between things and not feel so tight and, you know, just kind of cluttered, I guess. Yeah, confined. Yeah. Do you think that design can actually heal something in people? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I think absolutely it can. I mean, maybe separately from a home on like a bigger societal level, you know, we see our buildings now and our houses are all like so cookie cutter.

36:43And I feel like you really find a joy in someone when they walk into a space, whether it's a building, a hospital, a school, and you feel like it's open. There's daylight. It almost heals something in you. Like you walk in and you're like breathing like fresh air.

36:58Danielle:Yeah. One of the questions you asked me that I love was how do you use your space? What are you using it for? And I had some very specific things because I work from home. So I'm like, I do my makeup, my hair and makeup. Like I have a station that I need. I have a podcasting space, so on and so forth. And it made me think about human first design, which I learned about a few years ago. And the idea on a societal level is that like parks, benches, public spaces have been designed as spaces and then people fit into them. And human first design is the opposite. that you think about the person living in the space.

37:35Danielle:So for instance, if it's for kids, you would make the desk shorter, the water fountains or toilets smaller. And I realized there's this like golden rule or golden ratio. It's built off a six foot one male. Yes. The average height of men is not six foot one even. So like if you go into a bathroom and it's like the shower is so tall, it's because it was built for the golden ratio. You're really designing human first. Is that something that they're teaching in schools now? Or is that something that you've cultivated? I've definitely cultivated that because that's, I pride myself in having a deep connection with my clients and fitting it to their needs.

38:15Danielle:Yeah. They don't necessarily teach that. They teach us the golden ratio in school. I can't tell you how many times we have to like study and test on that. We need to fix the golden ratio. It makes me especially mad when I put my luggage up for TSA, like on the conveyor belt, because I only do carry-ons. I know, yeah. I'm low maintenance like you. And it's so high because it's built for a six-foot male. They're high, yes. I know. I get it. Anyways, I do. But, yes. No, I love it. Yeah, I mean, you've really got to design for your client to have a successful project. That's, you know, I could argue that that's why those, the cookie cutter builder grade, should we call them, you know, not trying to say those are bad, but you can argue that functionality, they don't work because they're not tailored to a specific person.

39:00So yeah, that's a great point.

39:02Danielle:Okay, this is the big question. Yes. Because I know everybody listening that's thinking about designing or redesigning their space wants to know the biggest mistakes that clients make when they start with a designer. Easy. Okay. I'm going to tell you. Be brutally honest. I'm going to tell you the biggest mistake my clients make before they hire me and why they come. They put too much reliance on the contractor and the architect. and they think that they're designing their space because a lot of them try. And every single time one of my clients has gone to their contractor architect first, they've come right back to me and we had lost a bit of time there.

39:42So my advice is always start with your designer. That's the space you're in every day. That's what you're seeing every day. So hire your designer first. Contractors and architects are great. I think when everybody does what they do best, that's a successful project. There's this saying, a jack of all trades is a master of none. And it's really, really true. Like everybody has a specialty and an expertise. And when you hire your designer first, or even at the same time as your team, a designer can really get ahead and tell you some of the things that we can change to the architecture of the house to make it more functional internally.

40:20Because an architect may be looking on the outside and the contractor is looking at budgets and the build out on the timeline, but designer can help really pull it all in together. And even with budgets, a designer can really help you figure out what's worth splurging on and what's not. And so I see that mistake happening all the time with clients hiring their contractor. Maybe their contractor says, I can design it. I'll, you know, I'll design it for you or the architect. And the most successful projects is when all three of us work as a team. Okay.

40:53Danielle:That's so interesting. I didn't know that. Is there anything else that comes to mind? The other biggest thing is proportions. That's the one thing that if somebody's self-designing or even, yeah, yeah. I mean, if somebody is self-designing their space, that's the one thing I see people get wrong. But 99 % of the time is the proportions. Yeah. Say more, like, Because what I see is that people underestimate the size of the furniture you need. They usually make things too small. Like the chandelier is too small or this coffee table is too small. Exactly, yes. And the thing with putting items that are smaller than the space calls for, now your whole space feels small and feels off.

41:37But there's different ways that the right proportions can help your space. For example, if you have low ceilings and you're building, like, let's say, a cabinet wall or something, try to keep things lower. Like, if you're doing, let's say, like a little shelf, it's going to be hard to explain, but make some things lower. Like, maybe you have a little ledge that's lower rather than tall cabinets with shelving on top. And that's going to help trick your eye to thinking that the space is taller because of the things we're using in it. So maybe your furniture is a little bit lower to help give more height to the space.

42:13But the other thing is, is I see a lot of the times arts too small, couches, rugs. It's a big one. Rugs are too small. Go bigger. If you're in doubt, just go bigger, you know?

42:23Danielle:What is the first piece of furniture that you purchase when you're designing a space? Do you start with the coffee table? No, I usually start with whatever the biggest item in the room is. Okay. So if it's a living room, a sofa. If it's a bedroom, a bed. So I always like to start with the bigger piece because that helps tell me what other space I have to work with. Because that's the most important piece in that room. That's actually a really helpful small tip. Oh, good. That's really good. What are spots in people's homes where we could probably benefit from some bigger small changes? Are there areas that you gravitate towards?

43:00Areas in people's homes. Hmm. I have to think about that one.

43:06Danielle:I'll tell you a pet peeve of mine. Tell me more. What do you mean? Yeah. And you tell me. Yeah. This question is coming from if the aesthetic is fun and eclectic and cluttered, then it works. Yeah. But most people's is not. Most people's design is a little bit zen. Yeah. And I find too many coffee table books, too many plants. Like, it's just too much. Right, right, right. What do you think people could benefit from looking through the Noor lens? Yeah, yeah. So like the less is more concept. Yeah. I think what people, the thing is, it can be done the right way. Even less is more is also great, but also sometimes more is more is great, you know, especially in this era of like maximalism.

43:48But I think where people go wrong is like the layout of things. Like, let's take your example, your, you know, yeah, example, for example, like the coffee table books. Yeah. There might be a lot, there might be a lot of accessories on the shelf, but it's about how you put it together. Like there has to be, there has to be a height variance, like the specific height variance that helps. So whether you, you start with something, let's say on the left corner, that's a bit taller. And then you have to supplement it with something in the middle. Maybe that's like, like a book, like something a little shallower.

44:22And then you have to come down to that corner and maybe put like a grouping of two. So it's more about arranging i think a lot of people have the right stuff but the arrangement is what's off i mean we just kind of did that here in your studio even though it's gorgeous just little things that we arranged to give a little more height you know to the background a little more yeah just

44:47Danielle:i was shocked how how little things made a big difference yes like moving one book yes yes Yes, exactly. What was your childhood home like? My childhood home is my favorite home. So I grew up in Lebanon. And the homes there back in the Mediterranean, basically, they are really like homogenous with the land around it. So which I love and which is what's hard to replicate when you're outside of that land. But the house I grew up in was all rocks. like the whole thing was made out of you know the the stacked stone so there was no drywall on the inside of the house the exterior and the interior were it was all one material you can tell there was like true craftsmen in there this it was a chimney stove top real oak flooring you know the parquet flooring it was just gorgeous and even though it wasn't a big space it really felt like home and that home is still in our family.

45:49My uncle now has it because we had to sell to move here. But I love visiting. It's gorgeous. You know, it just it really feels like what everyone is trying to go back to is that kind of like simple life of like growing your own vegetables and fruits and living in a house that really makes you feel cozy and warm.

46:12Danielle:Do you think that growing up in that house influenced how you design today? Absolutely. I mean, I've always said that my style gives an ode to my Mediterranean heritage. And what I love most is that they design the spaces there to be homogenous with the land around it and to kind of like take inspiration from that. So you see a lot of the raw natural materials, the plasters, the stone, the limestone, the woods, and that real like craftsmanship. So I really try to bring that almost in every project, even if the project doesn't have that look, there's always that bit of like twist in there. And I always like to add something a little unexpected than you see from a typical like Mediterranean style.

46:57But yeah, it did.

46:58Danielle:One of the things I've been talking about with my friends a lot lately is home ownership, because it's nearly impossible to buy a home in LA. Are there tips you have for making a space feel luxe without spending a ton of money? Yes, absolutely. I mean, luxury design doesn't have to always mean a huge budget. It means being intentional with what you buy, taking your time, not going to a showroom and just buying everything you see and putting it together. It's really about taking the time, adding functionality to the space, letting things speak to you almost like you see an object that, you know, that you kind of develop a feeling for but but there's tons of little things like honestly window coverings window treatments and coverings can really really change up a space and we saw that with your space too and it's something that's really easy that you can just put up and it really helps cozy it down from that you know cookie cutter look so that helps a lot you know fresh cone of paint always helps too that's a good one yeah fresh you know nothing cannot be solved without a fresh coat of I like that.

48:04Danielle:Yeah. Okay, what's worth investing in and what's worth saving in a house? So I would say what's worth investing in the most is the pieces that you use the most. That you're going to be, like, for example, your sofa. You're on that every single day. You know, you're gathering, you're hosting, you're developing memories there. So you want that piece to really last you. So I think bigger pieces like that, whether it's a sofa or, for example, your bed and your bedding. like a good bedding you know you really feel like you're on a cloud so i would say invest in the pieces that you're using the most especially if you can get things that are modular like like one of my sofas for example because i know that we'll probably be moving soon it's a modular piece so i can always add on to it in the future so that's nice too but that's one of the perils of design is you you spend money on a space and then when you move yes it's very hard no matter how nice the piece is.

49:01It just always fits a little different. I know it's hard. Yeah. Modular furniture is really nice for that.

49:07Danielle:Give me five steps to make any room gorgeous. Okay. Five steps to make a room gorgeous. Okay. Number one, paint your walls, baseboards, and ceiling the same color. That's good. It gets good. Number two, no accent walls. Please ditch the accent walls. It is, your room is supposed to feel, you know, one space. Number three, like I said before, go bigger. Rugs go bigger. Curtains go taller. Art, larger. So it really, really helps. Number four, use raw and natural materials. You know, hardware, stones, anything that you can that you feel like you're finding in nature. Yes, raw. Bronze finish. For example, bronze hardware versus a matte black hardware.

49:53And then number five, layer with textures. Do a lot of layering, whether it's textures, colors, add things in varying heights. So the room should feel layered and that really will get you good room.

50:07Danielle:That was so good. All the kids are clapping like this. I want to give you a silent clap. That was so good. Okay. Rapid fire. Okay. Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready. What's the first thing you notice when you walk into somebody's home? I want to say clutter, but I don't want to sound like I'm judging anyone. But functionality. When you start out designing a room, what's the first piece you start with? The biggest item in the room. Interior designer hot take. Oh, ditch the orchids. Orchids, it feels like you're in the dentist's office. Do not display orchids. My dad was a dentist and I agree. What's the fastest way to make a room look more expensive?

50:49Room look more expensive, proportions.

50:52Danielle:Okay. The right proportions. What's a design rule that's totally outdated? Oh, I have so many. Okay, that you have to only use light colors in a smaller room. A small room can also be moody and dark. Not mixing metals, overhead lighting. We're over that. What's your toxic trait as a designer? Oh, yeah, my designs are never easy. Like contractors are borderline love me and hate me because I'm always challenging them. That's cool. Yeah. What's one thing that renters can do to make their home feel custom and luxe? But like, you know, when you rent, you can't change furnishings. First thing I would do is change all your overhead lighting to a warm white.

51:33Yeah. We have to do that. It's so easy. Really? Will you tell me how? It's so easy.

51:44Danielle:This whole process has been like sort of a test for me because I hate doing real life things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I love working. No, I do too. And I'm like, I hate figuring out lighting. I hate fixing the dishwasher. Yes, yes. So this has been a good test where I'm going to fix my lighting. Yes, yes. What's a design rule you love to break? Overhead lighting. Don't do it? I hate overhead lighting. Yes, it's not a hospital. I love overhiding. Yeah. I know, it's really tough. We all do it. It's hard. I mean, the houses come with it. You know, it's like per code. But, you know, I love dim lighting.

52:16I love lighting that's grounded, like your floor lamps, your table lamps. Yeah. And, you know, love that. Do you do warm lighting, not cold? Yes, warm lighting. Yes.

52:25Danielle:The item that you would save from your house if you could only pick one thing. So my husband and I, we DIY'd a coffee table. And I love it so much. I drew like an organic shape on a piece of wood. He cut it. We stained it. We trimmed it. And it looks so gorgeous. So we're saving that. Yeah. Okay. What's a book that you've read that changed your life? Something you think everybody should read? So, I mean, definitely while working with David Goggins, you know, I've read his books Can't Hurt Me and Never Finish. And they're really just so inspirational. Yeah. What's something that every woman should try once?

53:05What's something every woman should try once? I know. Try going out with no makeup. Somewhere nice, somewhere fancy. Get dressed up and lose the makeup and feel confident. No one's ever said that.

53:19Danielle:That's a great one. You'll be surprised how much it changes your confidence and your ability to be like, I don't care. Yeah. Okay, grab the question everything card game next to you and pick a card, whichever one calls to you. It's like tarot. Okay, we got to mix them up. Yeah. How would you describe yourself to a stranger? Hmm. Hmm. How would I describe myself? I feel like I'm a very excited person. In fact, I get excited over things. I care a lot about things. And then I'm a little fun and crazy sometimes and loyal. That's really nice. Loyal to friends, to family, to that. So hopefully that's how they would describe me too.

54:08Okay.

54:08Danielle:Current faves. Yes. Love that. People are always asking me about that. Current faves. Okay. Okay. Current faves, what's your favorite stone? Right now, I love Chepo Beige or in that family. Go-to off-white paint? Baby Fawn by Benjamin Moore. Love it. I love that you know the name. Yeah, because I just used it and it's now my new favorite. A design style you love? So I love Wabi Sabi, but not the mainstream Wabi Sabi that everyone's now, that term is being used very loosely. The, you know, pure form of wabi-sabi that, you know, Axel Vervoer does stunning. Agreed. Yeah. If you had to choose one favorite store to furnish a house with.

54:53Oh, the future perfect.

54:55Danielle:Gorgeous. A brand you're obsessed with. Okay, I'm going to give you lighting, furniture, and accessories because I just can't pick one. Furniture, I'm obsessed with Andriana Shamaris. She does custom, like, raw, natural wood furniture. Accessories, LES collection. And lighting, apparatus. Obsessed. A color you didn't expect to love, but you do. Purple. What? Yes. Like lilac or deep purple? What are we talking? All of them. Every single shade of purple. Lilac. I just used this stone that has purples and greens. It's called Four Seasons. That might have to be my new favorite stone in your other question.

55:34Gorgeous. Burgundy. I mean, your burgundy top. All shades of purple. Is burgundy purple? It's a shade of it.

55:40Danielle:Oh my God. Yeah, we're putting it in that family. Okay, an art style that you're craving in homes right now. Oh, tapestry on the walls. Cool. Yeah. That's very Turkish of you. I like that. Yeah, I love it. A design rule you're happily breaking. Design rule I'm happily breaking. Mixing wood tones and mixing metals. A coffee table book you always include. That's really hard because coffee table books are so, so specific to my clients. So there's not one I'm ever repeating because it just doesn't make sense. But I love Asseline. That's the brand that you can, they have the best coffee table books.

56:14Cool.

56:15Danielle:A product you stockpile before it sells out. A product. So it's not specifically a product, but once you find cutlery or like dishes, like or cups, something that you love, stockpile it because it will go out of stock and then you have to get a whole new set. And then you break one and it's over. Yes. Yes. Yeah, exactly. A plant or floral that you're using nonstop? Plant. I love a plant called Song of India. It's gorgeous. And then flowers. Love florals. Ranunculus. I don't know if I'm saying it right. Ranunculus. Ranunculus. Oh, you said it much better. I'm like a ranunculus. They're beautiful.

56:52Ranunculus. Yeah, gorgeous. Gorgeous.

56:54Danielle:Hardware finish you're having a love affair with? Bronze. Most design-forward hotel you stayed in? I love the Santa Monica proper. Ooh. Yeah, Kelly Wurstler. Interior design account that you're stalking on Instagram. I love Visual Pleasure magazines. Visual Pleasure mag, the handle. Most underrated styling object. Plants. Cool. You are so talented and wonderful. Thank you. And really, truly a wonderful person to work with. Thank you so much. You've been amazing to work with. I feel like I'm working with a best friend. Me too. We've had so much fun. We really have. We giggled a lot.

57:36Danielle:Okay, you know what time it is. Today's a good day to have a good day. I'll see you next week.

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1:00:06Danielle:He's back. And now on Paramount Plus, more than 30 years later, Tommy Davidson is stepping back into the spotlight in an all new Martin spinoff, the Varnell Hill Show. And Varnell has just one question. Did you miss me? Now he's got network execs, a wild writer's room, family drama and everyone telling him he's passed his prime. Varnell isn't slowing down, bringing raw, unfiltered jokes every step of the way. From executive producer Martin Lawrence, The Varnell Hill Show is now streaming exclusively on Paramount+. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.