She Sent One (Imperfect) Cold Email… Now She Runs the Industry with Robin Arzón (Peloton)

28:04Like I think that is a very admirable quality, but you can't live in that place. You can't live in that cave. You can't live on the bedrock, bedrock, TikTok world. Like that's just not reality. So unless you're dropping back in to anchor yourself in something that is momentum filled, I just don't have any respect for it. I really fully agree, Robin. And I think it's actually an unpopular opinion that we both hold, but I'm with you. One of my favorite stories that you tell about Peloton is that you started with a cold email. When I tell you some of the best things of my life started with a cold email, do you remember what you wrote before you hit send?

28:47Yeah, so it was definitely describing my vision, my excitement for the company. You know, I was teaching for a local spin studio in Union Square, New York City at the time to like, at max 20 people at a time. And I was just so excited that idea of scaling movement into people's homes. And yeah, I didn't even contemplate, you know, it was literally just thinking, oh, wow, this could be in somebody's house across the country. How amazing. So it was enthusiasm and also, you know, a little pitch on like, why I'm that girl? Like, you ain't going to find me anywhere else. So let's get me in there so I can show you what I got.

29:26So I basically pitched like, just let me show you an audition because I have it. And that was really a bold statement because I was probably only teaching spin for like a year at that point. And I don't even know if I had it. If I saw my audition tape, I would probably crawl under the table. Like I would just wither away and die. It was probably terrible, but I did have the passion and the excitement and I did see the vision of the company. So that I think went a long way. Yeah, I guess they believed in my enthusiasm, I would say. I think it's very cool to hear that you just shot your shot and ended up now as vice president of fitness programming, head instructor.

30:08You've obviously, like you said, you built an entire world based on you, based on Robin. Now you have a whole podcast. I'm so curious as to why you wanted to dive into the podcast world. It felt like a natural extension to widening the aperture of how I can connect with folks. So it started with my masterclass and then it moved into my newsletter for Swagger Society. And then my husband and I worked together. We created Swagger Society so I could go deeper with some of these questions around habit formation and self-talk and life optimization and being that corporate athlete that we were just discussing.

30:47And so Project Swagger came about as an amazing partnership with Vox Media. They produce some of my favorite podcasts like Scott Galloway and Kara Squisher. And that became the right partnership because I knew that it would be produced in a way that fit into my life. Again, with like proper delegation and choosing the right partners. And Project Swagger is really an efficiency play as well as a mindset and optimization play. In 30 minutes or less, I'm giving people my hot take on a specific wellness or lifestyle topic and then a call to action as well as a toolkit to do something about that. So these aren't just ephemeral or esoteric things that we're wrestling with.

31:33It's like this, I consider that every single episode, we're adding a tool to the toolkit. And not everybody is going to use that same tool in the same exact way. But I think, you know, if you listen to a year's worth of episodes, you're going to have 48 tools in your toolkit and you never know when you're going to have to dig back into self-talk or taking creatine or, you know, thinking about aging and longevity. And of course, like movement is going to be a part of the conversation, but we're going much broader than that. This is not a fitness podcast. This is me really stepping into the intersection of wellness, of business, of entrepreneurship, of motherhood.

32:13And I think a lot of folks are multi-hyphenate in that way. So this is really, Project Swagger is a podcast for the multi-hyphenate hustler. I love that you've optimized podcasting even. like you really you really did it do you pick these topics based on things that you are personally curious about do you base them on what's trending like how are you picking what you're covering it's both interest uh i'm not chasing trends for sure not um it's both interest and the the listener the viewer is actually my co-host so i haven't i have a hotline 1-877 seven, all swag and people call in. So it's a classic like 90s call in show vibe.

33:01And I want to be useful. I want to be useful to the community. And, you know, for folks who follow me on social media or at Peloton, there isn't that innate feedback loop built in. And so this is a way to do that, a small way, but a consistent way to do that with the community. So cool. Are you still doing marathons and ultra marathons? I am. So I have been in my high rocks ever the past few years. I'm still picking up my race calendar this year, but yeah, a marathon might be on the calendar this year. That's so cool. I was reading about ultra marathons because I didn't know a lot about them and you run through mountains in the dark.

33:45Has your body ever bonked? Has your body ever said no and your mind is the part of you that had to push you through these races or you had been training for so long that you were physically equipped? Definitely, for sure. The former, I mean, you need the mental game is so key. Obviously, you need to prepare yourself physically for something like running for a whole 24 hours straight or something like that, which I did do for a hundred miler. But it is predominantly mental. I haven't done an ultra since having kids in part because the training takes you away for many, many hours a week. It's much more similar to like Ironman training, where you're training upwards of, you know, over 20 hours a week, maybe some weeks.

34:31And that's just like an average, as an average athlete, not even like the pros, they obviously do much more. But, but marathons, I think I can get back to soon. And And it's, it is, I think endurance athletes just are perennially asking themselves the question like, but what if I can? And I think that answer lives on the race course. Do you feel like after all these years of training at this level that your body tells you things that you wish you would have known at 25? I am so much more in tune with my body than I was in my 20s. It's like, obviously, our bodies change and adapt. Our pace changes, our muscle mass changes, all these things.

35:21But the beauty is that we're adaptable. And the wisdom that somebody has racing in their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond is so much richer. And I think that that makes us much stronger athletes because we can listen to ourselves. We are aware of our feelings. We know, you know, we have experiences in our back pocket when we have become more resilient. And that is a beautiful thing. It's an advantage as an athlete. Absolutely.

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39:24I think we're at this really interesting place in culture in terms of beauty standards. And I'm so curious how you see the culture of fitness and wellness changing, giving the rise of GLP ones and some of the trends, I think like 90s thin is in our faces again, although I also see like the sculpted body in. How do you navigate it, Robin? Yeah, I feel, I mean, ultimately I want to contribute to people feeling at home in their bodies. And I think for some folks that's going to be, you know, taking GLP-1s, I think overall, I do worry that there isn't going to be an honest enough conversation around who is,

40:16whose body type is being crafted and aided by medicine. And I don't want there to be a perception or misperception, especially for young girls like my daughter to think like, oh, my physical body, however it's supposed to be is or isn't okay. And I need these tools because again, it's a tool. that an adult should use with the advised under the, you know, under medical supervision. But then that doesn't necessarily inform the body image piece. We're just inundated with videos and images. And how does that make us feel at home in our bodies or not at home in our bodies? So that is my biggest kind of question mark.

41:03It is not a judgment call on like what people, adults specifically do with their bodies. But I do hope we're having honest conversations and empowered conversations around it from a point of access choice and then bridging to a lifestyle choice that hopefully is empowering and uplifting for everybody. From a muscle standpoint, is it true that the GLPs sort of deteriorate your muscle if you're not really taking creatine and working at it? Overall, you're reducing your caloric intake, but when your body is reacting to weight loss. It doesn't say like, okay, you can't be like, I want 2 % on my left arm, 3 % on my right arm, you know, 10 % on my belly.

41:48It's just going to be like, you know, it's generally speaking that where people lose weight is going to be super individualized. And muscle mass is going to be a part of that. So strength training and eating a protein focused diet is going to be critical for folks who are on peptides like GLP ones. It's changed some of my family members' lives. And also I have a lot of friends on them who don't need them. And so I was just so curious about where you stood and how you felt about it. Yeah, I don't think it's helpful to like finger wag because I think there are so many examples in both. I mean, there's a whole range of ways that science in general and medical advancements are going to impact our lives.

42:33And I think it's only going to accelerate in the next few decades, predominantly for the better. But I think the more curious we are, rather than judgmental, the better we'll be. Because ultimately we want advancements. We want access to more things that are going to keep us here robustly and for longer. But we do have to also understand what is the impact of that and what images are being served up as optimal, as beauty, as vitality. And like in the same discernment that we have to look at like an AI concocted image or just be more literate consumers and more literate humans to be like, are my eyes playing tricks on me?

43:19And like what story is going to be around that? I think that that has a lot of, there are a lot of aspects to that conversation that we have to become more adept at. Which kind of speaks to your motivational catchphrases, because a lot of times I think you're trying to change the stories that we're telling ourselves by using these phrases. There was a lot of chatter online that you were going to be a real housewife of New York with one of those phrases. I was like, oh, my God, first of all, the phrase, I get that. Was that ever a real consideration for you? Or was that just rumors online? Those were just rumors.

44:01I can confirm that was never a thing. I was reading that one of the mantras you use a lot is I am. And I'm so curious how that feels motivating for you. What is it? What's the power in those words? You can always complete that sentence with presence. I can always meet myself where my feet are and where I want to take my energy. Because sometimes I'm needing to say I am and root down. And sometimes I need to say I am and hype up. and sometimes I am is the identity that I'm trying on for size. Like that helps for me dismantle imposter syndrome because sometimes you just have to try something on, right?

44:54Like you're just like, I'm trying on this blazer. I'm trying on this, these running shorts, you know, you just have to try it on for size as an identity. And that, that phrase helps me. I've never thought about that, Robin. I really like that, especially like you're a person who loves questions. And I think like when you're questioning where you are and if you're supposed to, if the path is right for you, it's actually an easy way to question yourself. Like, does this fit? That's very cool. Is it even, does it like, is it palatable inside? Yeah. Does this feel right? That's really cool. do you ever um like do you ever want to kind of coast through are there seasons where you're not in a growth mindset or are you truly just always at that at that level I think I might be entering one um so uh the other day I saw Adam Grant who's an amazing author and podcaster and educator and And he's just so brilliant.

45:58And he is constantly writing more books and creating more projects. And I asked him, like, do you ever... I just released a cookbook, Eat to Hustle. I just launched Project Swagger. And now I'm in a place where like 2025 for me was a building year. 2026 was releasing a lot of the things I was building. And the latter part of 2026, I think I'm just going to go back to basics a little bit. And I asked Adam Grant about that. and I was like, I feel like I'm almost having a creativity hangover where so much energy goes into this big thing and you almost feel like a morning or something. You're like, oh, but you're so used to that dopamine hit.

46:37You're so used to that adrenaline. And I obviously love both. But I also think I don't want to create from a place of a scarcity mindset. And I think when we create like, okay, I got to make the next thing. I got to write the next book. I've got to create the next product because that just was expected of me. I don't think that's the type of energy that actually breeds success. So I am going to take his advice, which was, I go back to doing things that are playful and joyful and like watch movies and go to art and go see shows that just, I think are cool. Like I admire, like I want to go see Harry Styles perform and just marvel at like, damn, this is somebody doing amazing.

47:21You know what I mean? Like just go see art, go back, go back to Broadway shows, like doodle in my notebook, you know, and allow myself to just be, look at the vantage point from what I've built. Out of all of the impressive people that you have been in contact with, that you have coached, is there somebody that stands out for you? Cause, and I asked because you mentioned Adam Grant and it's like, yeah, that's a great person to get advice from. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like he's incredible. Yeah. Let's see. I would say, you know, they say like say like never meet your heroes. I haven't found that to be the case.

47:56I have found people to be incredibly gracious and curious. And maybe it's just, you know, I got lucky. but um you know I'll share like I remember when I when I was in that period leading law I was at the London Olympic Games and I met really briefly Alison Felix and she let me ask her questions for my tumblr like it was yeah she's getting like yeah the biggest interviews in the world and she's like let me just talk to this young girl um and so cool she was so gracious and then now since like Allison has become a friend and she's, you know, wrote a blurb for my book and it's just amazing where life is gonna take you.

48:42And I think you never know what your timeline is supposed to be. Like you don't know where the seeds you plant with the right energy. You don't know when they're gonna sprout. And I am so grateful that now I get to meet people that I'm just like, oh my gosh, I would have just dreamed, you were on my vision board And now, like, I know you, but I do believe that anything's possible. I really do. You're a big vision boarder, I heard. Does everything go on the vision board and does everything get done? Not everything. Not always in the timeline that I expect, right? So there are things in my vision boards.

49:21A lot of the things do get done, I will say. Like, it is a pretty good hit record. But it's not like one plus one equals two. It's more so getting me directional clarity. And I usually have quadrants that relate to like that year or a season. So there might be like a business quadrant. Back before I had kids, there was like a family or fertility quadrant. So sometimes they're very, very personal. And then lately, they've been much more business oriented. But they provide clarity. So when I do get that email of like an offer, I'm like, is this in the world that like I thought about six months ago?

50:02And sometimes you have, you have to leave room for unexpected miracles, right? So it's not like, oh, this doesn't fit. No, but I do. It does help me kind of tune into what a yes looks like.

50:21Here's something most people don't realize. Great sleep doesn't happen by accident. It starts with what you're sleeping on. That's why I switched to Chicx. Their bedding is made from the same performance fabrics you'd find in elite athletic wear, but designed to help you sleep better. If you run hot at night, these sheets help you stay cool and dry. If you love that cozy, ridiculously soft feel, they've got that too. Comfort that stays consistent from the moment you hop into bed. And for anyone with an adjustable base, this is a game changer. Their stay fit corners are the best I've ever tried.

50:57No slipping, no popping off, even when the bed moves. When your days are demanding, Sheiks helps you wake up restored, not run down. Try them for yourself with their 60 night risk-free guarantee. Upgrade your sleep at Sheiks.com. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

51:36Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

52:09The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we We break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow Timbo Slice Life 12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hi, everyone. I'm Cheryl Strayed, author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things.

52:40I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called Mind Over Mountain. In each episode, I interview athletes, adventurers, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes and life experiences that informed and inspired their extraordinary feats. I also bring a bit of advice into the mix so we, too, can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pull out what you already have inside. We're coming into this world fighting for our lives. All I'm going to do is pull out what you already got inside. We're there to support and celebrate each other.

53:16And that's not like a your story versus my story. You're going to walk up and over that dang mountain. You're not just going to put your mind over it. Yep, yep, exactly. And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm going to go through it. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

53:42how much time are you carving out for self-growth self-development thoughtfulness about your goals like are you checking back in every month or what does that look like for you I do check into the vision board I would say probably like I have strategy sessions with my team once a quarter and so usually leading up to those strategy sessions I'm like all right let me check in like what what uh what are we where where's my head at but I give myself time to be bored every single week like no air no air no headphones no no zoom call like I'm literally just walking around the streets of New York City thinking like a few times a week.

54:29So yeah, I would say probably for like two hours a week, I'm literally just thinking. I think that's so cool, Robin, because most people would say like they, including myself, make excuses that like people have kids or people are busy or and to carve that time out to be bored, so to speak, is so awesome. Well, it is functional, right? So it's more so like, where can you fold it into an existing commute? Where can you fold it into like the existing plane ride? Like I do it in my walk to and from my training sessions and not every day, not every time off. I mean, a lot of times it's like, oh, I got to have a flash meeting with my team or whatever.

55:07So like, I'm still practical about it, but I would say I prioritize it. Like if I have to choose or if I'm just more comforted by the idea of like, let me just, I love listening to podcasts, obviously, but if I feel like I'm kind of getting into the well, like creatively, I really protect that time. And I'm like, listen, just give yourself 20 minutes to like not listen to anybody else's ideas. And when is your voice gonna be the loudest voice again? And if I feel like my own inner monologue is a little too low, I find it's most helpful to amplify it by A, movement and B, quote unquote, bored time.

55:47That is really beautifully said. If my inner monologue is too low, I've really liked that. Very cool. You've already reinvented yourself multiple times. I'm curious, looking towards the future, what do you feel like this next chapter holds for you? I want to create a really joyful, continue to have a joyful existence with my family. I think, you know, it's seeing the world through my kids' eyes is a real privilege. But I became more ambitious since becoming a mother, not less. So, and I felt a bigger responsibility to contribute to a world that like, they're like, yeah, like my mom is a baddie.

56:26Like she built incredible shit. And that now just means that I have to be way more intentional with the things that are going to take my time. But I'm not less ambitious. I'm just more intentional and present. I think widening the aperture into lifestyle, into beauty. I consider a lot of the ways that a lot of the industries that make money on women feeling bad about themselves. And I want to rip them down. So I think like beauty, you know, ways in which we can, you know, feel really great about living in our homes and being at peace with our families. I think that there's a modern spin on some of those paradigms and whether it's from a product perspective, a licensing perspective or creating whole cloth businesses in the unscripted space, in like movies and TV production.

57:23My husband and I have a production company called Swagger Studios. So we're looking at projects to partner with and green light. And so there are a lot of ways that storytelling, both in between our ears and in our communities, is ripe for adaptation. You are in a world where you are constantly the motivator. Like even people like people interviewing you are looking for motivation. People that come to your classes are looking for motivation. And I kept thinking, where does that leave room for you to be uncertain or not on? What has it been like to to be the force for so many people? I mean, I it gives my life so much meaning.

58:11I yeah, it's an immense privilege. I also take my recovery and my ability to shut it all down really seriously. you know like I go to bed early I'm usually in bed by nine I am an introvert I'm an extroverted introvert so I get my energy back through silence and through really contemplative kind of solo time and with two young kids that's not often possible in the same way that I would love but it definitely, I'm self-aware enough to know where I need to kind of plug back in or how I plug back into, you know, the energy voltage, so to speak. And it really is the basics. It's like fueling intentionally, sleeping well, and crafting social engagements that make me feel connected to community, but don't feel like they're draining on my energy.

59:12So it's often not going to be like a huge, I'm not going to usually go to like a cocktail party. Um, I'd rather like have a dinner with girlfriends kind of thing. Um, or my husband and I will often like throw party, like a big party with our friends. And I, everyone, I know every single person in that room deeply, but in a three hour time period, like I can see them all in one shot. So, but we'll take the party planning on to like make sure that that curation is happening. And so I think it's knowing yourself. I think that's the beauty of being 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and beyond because it's like you are just cutting down the noise, baby.

59:47And you're not doing the thing just to keep up with the Joneses. Like because what the Joneses are doing might not be your bag. So I like don't pay attention to any of that. And even with social media, I completely delete apps like for weeks and weeks at a time. And I work with my team to craft what's going up. But I'm not the one actually engaging with a lot of that because I have to take digital detoxes. Yeah. When you were looking for a husband or a partner, were you really intentional about finding a doer also? Or do you like being in charge? Oh, it was like a non-negotiable that it needed to be a fully forums man.

1:00:31I was like, I'm not like he needs to be grown as hell and have his own stuff. I think it really takes the right person to step into a world that is so public facing. And he I mean, so much so that we work together. He's my manager and he has his own businesses. He has his own things, which he needs. Right. It can't be all about like all about me. but we are very, very intentional about like, you got to clean up your side of the street, like do your own work and then that's going to give you so much more capacity to like do more for others. And we, even in a marriage, like it's like, I need this right now.

1:01:12I need to, you know what I mean? And then it's using our communications to like build bridges for the other person so they can get to that place where they can work on themselves. It's cool to hear. It seems like you guys have a really nice yin and yang. Yeah, he definitely balances me out. We joke about how our skill sets are very, very complimentary. I have some rapid fire questions for you before you leave. I heard that you were quite the deadlifter. If you had to, could you deadlift a car? A deadlift a car? Maybe like, how much does a car weigh? No, I don't know. I mean, I would have to see how much a car weighs.

1:01:51Maybe one of those small European cars, you know, like those tiny little ones that you see in Italy. I think I could deadlift that. Definitely a few mopeds. I could probably get a few mopeds up. Yes. What is your favorite protein powder? Oh, that's a really good question. Lately, I really like Rise 311. It's kind of an obscure one. but this trainer, Jake Gyllenhaal's trainer, Jason, started the company. Jason Walsh, I think his name is. Rice 311 is a really good one. Cool. Jason used to be my trainer. Oh, cool. Amazing. Yeah. Okay. What's the first thing you do after crossing the finish line? Usually look for my kids and look for some type of potato chip.

1:02:40I love potato chips or French fries. that's so much better than beer i love that um okay a wellness trend that is worth the hype strength training and creatine one that's not worth the hype one that's not worth the hype you know i would say people are trying to major in the minors when they're so focused on what light therapy and what cold plunge and what and it's like those things are amazing i love biohacking. But if you're focused on that, rather than like eating vegetables, drinking water, getting your protein and moving your body six days a week, then you're having the wrong conversation.

1:03:19Well said. I know you're a big Beyonce fan. If you could describe this era of your life as one of her albums, what era are you in right now? Oh my gosh, I love this question. I would say, you know, I think it's actually Cowboy Carter. because for me, Cowboy Carter was, yes. And so this is why, because for me, Cowboy was the most self-assured I had seen Beyonce. And it was in such an unexpected thing, right? It's like Beyonce's doing country. So you'd think it'd be, but it felt good. It was so grounded and it was so grounded in classics. You know, she's done collabs with Dolly and Willie Nelson and putting her own spin on things.

1:03:58And I think that is a maturity that I have also reached that I think I can go into industries that maybe I'd be unexpected, like cooking, and be like, right, I'm still going to hold space though because I have a point of view and this is just how I'm going to do it. So awesome, Robin. I love that. And also unexpected answer from you. Very cool. Okay, what's something that every woman should try once? A really amazing solo trip. I think a solo even day. I've had amazing experiences where I've just like booked a hotel room for 36 hours and been like, I'm off. And it's kind of scary, right? Sometimes it's like, you're going to eat by yourself or it's like, what do you do with your hands?

1:04:42Like when you're at, you know, it's like little things that just remind us like we can still take adventures and we don't need anybody else to give them to us. So good. If I'm giving you a plane ticket right now, where are you going? I would go back to the Maldives. I haven't been there since our honeymoon. and my Apple Watch is still partly on Malay time because I said to my husband, I was like, listen, baby, I am manifesting going back to this private island like you bet your butt. And so there's just one little tether to Malay, you know, to the other side of the world. So hopefully I get to go back there.

1:05:17Put it on the vision board. Exactly, exactly. Okay, so I always do a question from this card game, question everything. And because we're virtual, you tell me when to stop and I'll pause. Stop. Okay. What's something most people love, but you can't stand? Coffee. Robin, what? I think coffee is trash. For us health wise or just taste wise? For me individually, taste wise. I don't have any opinions. I don't have any opinions on the coffee industry or whether somebody should drink coffee or not. I just think personally, I don't like it. Okay, good. My last thing for you is I'm going to do a wellness smash or pass.

1:06:03So these are health and wellness trends. Smash or pass protein in everything. Smash. Red light therapy. I'm going to pass. Run clubs. Smash. Community is great. aura rings or other wearables smash as long as you're still the loudest voice in the room pilates smash okay and the last one i'm about to say is something that our producer shared i did not know what these were so apparently fart walks are a big thing right now it's going on walks after eating to improve your digestion okay I think it needs a rebrand. But I would say smash because I do support walking after eating. It's great for blood sugar as well.

1:07:04I can't believe the last thing I said to you in our interview is fart walks. I have to come up with something else. Robin, you are so much fun. Thank you for your time today. And I'm an avid listener to the pod. So keep it going. Thank you. This was so fun. Thanks, Robin.

1:07:25Okay, you know what time it is. Today's a good day to have a good day. I'll see you next week.

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