17 Yr Old Mackenzie Shirilla Kills BF & Friend In Car Crash - ALL Her Private Snapchat Messages

8 Jun 2026 · 1 h 12 min · 28 chapters

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In short

The episode covers the July 31, 2022 fatal car crash in Strongsville, Ohio, where 17-year-old Mackenzie Shirilla (driver) allegedly had “post-traumatic amnesia” and says she remembers nothing after leaving a friend’s house. The episode also reviews her social media behavior, relationships, and the massive FOIA record used for a planned five-part series.

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Key claims (as presented by the hosts and/or prosecutors/netizens): Mackenzie claims she can’t recall the crash, including why she drove into a brick building and killed boyfriend Dominic Russo and friend Davion Flanagan. The hosts allege her Snapchat/TikTok/Instagram activity shows reckless behavior (including filming while driving/possibly intoxicated) and document attempts to contact influencers/brands shortly after the crash. The hosts describe a hospital-room incident where a detective reports Mackenzie yelled at her parents and a prosecutor’s decoding of “carny talk” (pig-latin-like) allegedly suggests she said “I had a seizure” to explain her memory loss.

Notable examples

LifeFlight to MetroHealth ICU room 571; doctor note “patient without recall”; Halloween 2022 TikTok controversy; DMs like “go run your car off a bridge”; FOIA scale (thousands of videos/photos, ~92,892 texts); alleged “carny talk” exchange with her mother; claims about Dom and Davion’s relationship and Davion staying at Dom’s home.

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The Aftermath of the Crash

0:33 to 3:36

Exploration of the chaotic aftermath following a deadly car crash involving Mackenzie.

“That's why drivers have trusted Progressive's Name Your Price tool for years.”

Mackenzie's Hospital Experience

3:37 to 5:50

Mackenzie's experience in the hospital post-surgery and her lack of recollection of the events.

“everyone in Strongsville, Ohio, but it is an unbearable time for 19-year-old Davion's family and 20-year-old Dominic's family because they want to know what the hell happened.”

Reactions from Victims' Families

5:51 to 7:49

The emotional response from the families of the victims and their quest for answers.

“This case has gained a lot of attention since the release of the Netflix documentary The Crash.”

Mackenzie's Social Media Activity

7:50 to 8:32

Discussion about Mackenzie's social media behavior shortly after the crash.

“In part three, we're going to be breaking down Mackenzie's relationship with her parents, as well as the semi-confirmed speculations that Mackenzie was sending messages to people in regards to potential sex work.”

Details of the Investigation

8:33 to 9:36

Overview of the extensive data collected during the investigation into the crash.

“because after this Netflix documentary, so many people have been coming out saying, I was in jail or I was in prison with Mackenzie, as well as the status of the appeal.”

Mackenzie's Background and Personality

9:37 to 10:31

Insight into Mackenzie's character based on various perspectives and her social media presence.

“and statements may be condensed for brevity's sake.”

The Complexity of Mackenzie's Image

10:32 to 14:02

Deep dive into Mackenzie's online persona and contrasting opinions about her.

“which I'm sure it applies to every single one of us.”

Kenzie’s Social Media Presence

14:02 to 17:38

Explore Kenzie’s online persona, focusing on her cringy posts and obsession with documenting her high moments.

“And the caption reads, I dress and post for me and only me.”

Kenzie’s Reckless Behavior and Influence

20:12 to 28:01

Delve into Kenzie’s risky driving habits and her attempts to influence others on social media.

“Just generally speaking, whenever she's driving, she's kind of looking like a bozo.”

Social Media Behavior of Mackenzie

28:01 to 29:06

Exploring Mackenzie's social media interactions and behaviors leading up to the crash.

“Put a finger down if when your parents are yelling at you, you stare them directly in their eye for a long period of time just to intimidate them.”
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Controversial Halloween Costume

29:06 to 31:26

Discussing the backlash against Mackenzie for her Halloween costume post-crash.

“But much, much more to come about the parents, Natalie and Steve, in a later episode.”

Understanding Post-Traumatic Amnesia

31:26 to 32:56

Examining Mackenzie’s claims of memory loss following the crash through the lens of post-traumatic amnesia.

“Oh, this is not even the first time she's out and about post-crash.”

Police Investigation and Hospital Visit

32:56 to 34:27

Detailing the police investigation and interactions in the hospital after the crash.

“I can see how someone could have some amnesia from the impact of the crash, but the timing just seems really perfect.”

Reactions to Potential Charges

34:27 to 37:09

Discussing the reactions of Mackenzie's family to the potential criminal charges stemming from the accident.

“The officer starts filling out a property release form and then that's when the doctor walks in.”

Mackenzie's Rapid Language and Its Implications

37:09 to 39:26

Exploring the mysterious language Mackenzie spoke in the hospital and its significance.

“The state chooses whether or not they want to charge.”

Decoding the Hospital Conversation

39:26 to 42:06

Analyzing the disputed decoding of Mackenzie’s conversation with her mother in the hospital.

“Like, can you actually talk to people in that?”

Mackenzie, Dom, and Davion: Relationships Explored

42:06 to 44:38

Learn about the dynamics of Mackenzie's relationships with Dom and Davion leading up to the crash.

“front passenger seat and their friend Davion is in the back seat.”

The Party Incident and Its Consequences

44:38 to 46:47

Discover the details surrounding a previous party incident involving a girl falling down the stairs.

“friends have spoken extensively about what he meant to them, how he impacted their lives, and what it means for them now that he's been taken away from them which we're going to cover in a later episode.”

Speculation Around the Fall

46:47 to 48:25

Examine the theories and conversations regarding the circumstances of the girl's fall.

“We're going to call her Kay, but side note, Davion was also there and it's been reported that Davion was actually one of the only people that helped her before the medics came.”

Mackenzie's Reaction to the Incident

48:25 to 50:28

Explore Mackenzie's response to the fallout from the party incident and her comments on social media.

“system a lot of the police and her parents and a lot of the people are thinking that she got pushed there was foul play in it and i said if there was a possibility that there were girls there and they were drunk.”

Dom's Mother's Insights on the Accusations

50:28 to 52:32

Learn about Dom's mother's perspective on the accusations against Mackenzie related to the fall.

“And like, none of these are like really even in chronological order.”

Mackenzie's Controversial Persona

56:59 to 1:10:07

Explore the multifaceted and controversial behaviors of Mackenzie Shirilla as revealed through her social media interactions and school reports.

“Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or cough.”

Mackenzie's Contradictory Lifestyle

1:10:07 to 1:12:00

Explore Mackenzie's contradictory behaviors regarding health and lifestyle choices.

“But then it's like, you can't really say that when you're, I only wear designer.”

Public Perception of the Crash

1:12:01 to 1:15:48

Dive into the various public opinions surrounding the car crash incident.

“However, I do think that this is all contextual information that would be necessary to understand the case in its entirety and what people have been saying and why they've been saying certain things.”

Relationship Dynamics Between Mackenzie and Dom

1:15:49 to 1:17:46

Examine the complex relationship between Mackenzie and her boyfriend Dom.

“Dom would provide for her like with everything.”

Preview of Upcoming Analysis

1:17:47 to 1:18:14

Get a glimpse into the next part of the series focusing on texts and crash details.

“And this concludes the first half of part one of this series.”

Preview of Upcoming Analysis

1:18:18 to 1:18:33

Get a glimpse into the next part of the series focusing on texts and crash details.

“And I'm other GLP ones, kind of like him.”

Preview of Upcoming Analysis

1:18:38 to 1:19:14

Get a glimpse into the next part of the series focusing on texts and crash details.

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1:22It's like a storm is coming. I mean, not figuratively, but the officer has to turn away from the road. He can hear the wind going crazy. It sounds like a tornado, but he can't directly look at what's causing all this wind. At least it's not advised. All the debris that's getting kicked up into the air, the dust, it's going to get into his eyes and then there's going to be a bigger problem and he's not going to be as useful right now. And he needs to be very useful because he needs to save somebody's life. In the event of a very, very bad car crash, it always feels like a storm is coming. And that's not figuratively.

1:58It's usually the life flight. It's a helicopter. This is essentially a flying emergency room and it is looking for a place to land, typically on the road. I mean, it does need clearance. A lot of the police have to taper off a section and the pilot is ultimately the one that decides if it's safe to land. But these helicopters, they're trying to land as quickly as possible, as closely as possible to the crash site so that they can get whoever needs help with no time wasted to the closest medical facility. The life flight lands and they hurry to get the patient on board and fly them to Metro Health Medical Center intensive care unit, specifically room 571.

2:37That is where she wakes up from surgery. The officers, the police officers, the detectives, they're knocking on the hospital door to ask her, what happened in that car crash? because you were driving. So what happened? What did you do? How did those two boys in the car die? The doctor's notes read, patient awake, alert, appropriate, clearly articulated verbal response, patient without recall of circumstances or timing of collision. 17-year-old Mackenzie is sitting in the hospital room and she informs the officers she doesn't recall a single thing after getting into that car. Even when she tries to remember, there is nothing.

3:15It's just blank. Everything faded to black. there's nothing. She doesn't remember how she, the driver, ended up crashing the car into the brick building, killing her boyfriend Dom and killing their friend Davion. She says she can't remember. I mean, she wishes she could. She cries out, in fact, that she wishes that she could have been the one that died instead of them. Why them? Why not her? It's just a very tricky time for everyone in Strongsville, Ohio, but it is an unbearable time for 19-year-old Davion's family and 20-year-old Dominic's family because they want to know what the hell happened.

3:50They want to know how their family member was killed. But the only person that knows that answer is in the hospital, just got out of multiple surgeries and she claims she doesn't remember a thing. I think they have every single right to demand answers, but because they're inherently good people, they don't. They wait. They wait because they want 17-year-old Mackenzie to heal from her surgery. Because even though their sons were killed, they don't want another person to die. They don't know what happened in the car. They don't immediately go and interrogate Mackenzie after she's gotten out of surgery, which no one would blame them for doing.

4:20I'm sure they really wanted to. There's so much that doesn't make sense that they have to sit with for a prolonged period of time, probably even now. Like, why was she driving so fast straight into a brick building and never hitting the brakes? I don't think anyone would have faulted them if they were posted up in that hospital room, but they weren't. Instead, they were waiting. and while they were waiting, they find out that 17-year-old Mackenzie has not been waiting. She does not wait. She does not wait to post Snapchat stories of herself laying in the hospital bed. She'll like post the little flowers that she received from the hospital.

4:52But more shocking, she hasn't even waited to respond to a modeling agency that reached out to her on Instagram a day or two after the fatal crash. The brand comments on Mackenzie's Instagram page asking to use a picture of her to repost to their socials. Mackenzie's mom responds. Thank you for this amazing opportunity. She would love if you would use that. She's actually been trying to contact you guys for PR email. It was a tragic accident. This is just as painful for her as it is for everyone else, or maybe even a little more painful. Did the brand reach out because they found out about the crash?

5:27It doesn't seem like it. It seems like she tagged them and some intern was just like, oh, hey, can I use this photo? And then Mackenzie herself responds. Thank you for the comment. I would love to work with you guys. I've been emailing you guys a lot. Such a great opportunity. Thank you How does someone respond like that after killing their boyfriend and friend in the car? This is the case of Mackenzie Shavilla and the lives that were cut short of Dominic Russo and Davian Flanagan This case has gained a lot of attention since the release of the Netflix documentary The Crash. We did FOIA this case and The file that we got back was pretty massive I mean we received approximately over 4 ,000 separate videos 4 ,896 photos 31 ,000 pages of text messages just between Mackenzie and her boyfriend Dom.

6:11It was approximately 92 ,892 text messages back and forth. Close to 800 text messages between Mackenzie and her own father, Steve Shirela, which is, I mean, there's a lot of conspiracies coming out of those messages. Close to 2 ,000 text messages between Mackenzie and her close friends, as well as 2 ,000 pages of Instagram DM messages between Mackenzie and various other people, as well as massive folders for all of Mackenzie's Snapchat data, including personal photos, videos, audio messages sent to friends, TikTok data, Instagram data, as well as 97 jail calls, 551 pages of documents from police reports and 39 body cam and dash cam videos.

6:54We have gone through all of it because it is a massive amount of just data. I know that a lot of people were trying to run the text message file through AI to pick out important parts. we literally sat there and read through every single page every single text message and we are going to break it down for you this is going to be a five-part series in this first part we're going to be going over the crash itself as well as going over who was in the car their relationships to one another and generally what people believe happened that night in part two we're going to break down the Netflix documentary the social media response to the documentary because it's been a lot there's been a lot of conspiracy theories that have been circulating online about what was happening at the party that the three, Mackenzie, Dom, and Davion, had attended right before the crash, as well as we actually asked two of the more controversial individuals from the documentary all of the questions that we saw social media had for them, and they responded.

7:48It was like a two-hour long conversation. In part three, we're going to be breaking down Mackenzie's relationship with her parents, as well as the semi-confirmed speculations that Mackenzie was sending messages to people in regards to potential sex work. Not that there was sex work that was committed or done. Not that there was any sex work evidence found, but messages communicating back and forth about potential sex work. In part four, we're going to be breaking down the entire 31 ,000 page document of text messages between Mackenzie and Dom and covering the popular theory that Mackenzie knew that Dom was breaking up with her soon, so she planned the crash.

8:30And in part five, we're going to cover the jail calls and the alleged prison girlfriends, because after this Netflix documentary, so many people have been coming out saying, I was in jail or I was in prison with Mackenzie, as well as the status of the appeal. So that is going to be the five parts. And with that being said, we would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support Change the Game for Dom Foundation and Davion Flanagan's Memorial Scholarship Fund. Both GoFundMes are run by the families of the victims, and we will include all of those in the description, as well as all the information regarding Dom and Davion's law, which aims to update Ohio's Son of Sam laws in order to prevent violent offenders from profiting off their crimes.

9:10All of those are going to be included in our show notes. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mingo's team of dedicated researchers. We'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support. As always, full show notes are available at RottenMingoPodcast.com. Today's case involves mentions of illicit drug usage, reckless driving, driving while intoxicated, self-exit, and possible domestic violence. We did pull the FOIA for this case and literally went through tens of thousands of pages of text messages, detective incident reports, autopsy reports, so naturally a lot of quotes and statements may be condensed for brevity's sake.

9:44Secondly, many of Dom and Davion's family members have spoken up and have shared their stories about how this has impacted them. I would heavily recommend you watching through all of those because I think they are like the first hand encounters to describe what it was like being around people like Dom and Davian. I think and they're very eloquent with their words. I'm going to link all of their social media below because they have been active since the documentary to voice out the impact that this case and the documentary has had on them. In order to explain the entirety of the case, there will be times where we will be going through opinions of netizens, theories of netizens, even conspiracy theories.

10:21But keep in mind that we do state that these are opinions, comments, and speculations made by netizens. They do not represent our own opinions. So with that, let's get started. Depending on who you ask, you're going to get a completely different view of who Mackenzie Sharrilla is, which I'm sure it applies to every single one of us. There are going to be people in your life that love you, and then there are going to be the ones that hate you. But you can still pinpoint who they're talking about most of the time. The people that hate you will say, oh, she has no backbone and they're so desperate to be liked.

10:50The people who like you are going to say, oh, they're so sweet and accommodating and really care about other people's feelings all the time. Two different perspectives, typically of the same personality traits, just interpreted differently. But the part that boggles my mind about Mackenzie Shavilla is it feels like everyone's talking about inherently different individuals. She sounds like a different person depending on who you talk to. some friends will say that she's one of those people who took care of herself and other people one friend says that she was being bullied and mackenzie would be the one that would stand up for her and tell people that's not okay don't bully her one friend reminisces about her friendship with mackenzie on snapchat and she writes i remember during one of my drunken breakdowns i texted kenzie to come to my room so i didn't interrupt the party and she sat next to me and said oh no babe we drunk crying what's wrong and just listen to me without any judgment that is the kind of girl mackenzie sharilla is but others are confused because they're like do we know the same person they say you know she has a bitch list like she has a burn book from mean girls the style of bitch list that um they had in the regina george like they write down the people's names that they want to get revenge on in mackenzie's notes app on her phone she had a list of 48 names of i guess bitches that she hates and wants revenge on some of those individuals would have descriptors next to their names, such as transgender or the fatty.

12:14What? Yeah. Wait, this is pulled from the police? Yeah. What? Which hardly feels like someone without much judgment, but that's why it's interesting that everybody has such polar opposite opinions on Mackenzie as an individual. But I think one objective fact is she loves to post photos and videos of herself, which isn't inherently a nefarious thing. I too technically post a ton of videos of myself, but one person says nobody loved Mackenzie like Mackenzie loved Mackenzie. And Mackenzie, she wanted to be an influencer. Her Instagram had 2 ,700 followers at one point and she writes in her Instagram bio, fashion model, your inspiration, modeling, Ohio.

12:59I don't really know how to describe Mackenzie's style. I mean, she's definitely not in the relatable influencer niche, I would say. She's out here posting how she only likes designer things and money she'll do the the money fans or like the the money brick iphones where she'll have an obscenely large stack of cash a brick like the size of a fucking table lamp and she's trying to i don't know hear the melody of tax evasion from the other side like she's using it like a little phone and taking photos of herself she's a very specific y2k baddie type aesthetic that she likes to stick to she'll take car videos of herself in the car with the words all over the screen the police working fast food winter parma ohio like a city in ohio fake friends anything that's not designer cancers gmo foods new juicy gouture the show friends and ohio i don't in one frame yeah so it's like words just scattered all throughout the screen right and she's like posing for the camera what do all of these things have in common she uses the tiktok sound from kim Kardashian while wearing obscenely large sunglasses and the sound is it's just never been my thing not into it so not approved side note I think she's talking about the astrological sign cancers not terminal illness cancers so there is that she also likes to get her nails done to have the giant Dior logo it's like she's got 10 Dior lip glosses on her hands just floating around she posts on Instagram stories, a picture of her in like a bathing suit in the snow.

14:32And the caption reads, I dress and post for me and only me. If you don't like that, please go die. She goes through the trends of having a full set of lash extensions that look like she stole a horse's tail in the middle of the night and attached it to her retinas. I think everybody's had that phase. I do believe the lash extensions, however, were giving her infections because there are Instagram DMs where she talks extensively about getting prescribed steroids for her eyes, and then she goes and gets them done again just to have her eyes look like she put in red 40 eye drops. I mean, generally speaking, I would say that she just makes very cringy TikToks.

15:07I guess it's understandable considering she's what, 16, 17 years old when she's posting a lot of these things. I could have made a freaking career embarrassing myself at that age. Instead, I did it for free. So it's fine. I mean, none of this is nefarious. I don't think any of these things have any sort of evidentiary value as to what kind of person Kenzie is. It's just really cringy. However, I think the parts that start to get a bit more alarming and worth considering is her never ending obsession with documenting herself getting high. She'll post videos of herself smoking weed out of a giant foot long bong in her room, which is a bit questionable to be posting at 16, 17, but maybe not my circus, not my monkeys.

15:48I'm not an arc. She does have normal posts as well where she's just doing like fruit reviews, trying hybrid fruits. So it's not like she only posts smoking weed, but she'll like scatter them around. But a lot, a lot of smoking weed. And then she'll do a fruit review, trying a hybrid fruit, like a hybrid between a honeydew and a cantaloupe. Yeah. Interesting. Or she'll review garage sale finds where she finds like a cute purse or she'll post videos of herself in her Toyota She's got this like pink fuzzy steering wheel cover and she's just taking pictures while driving while smoking a blunt Documenting herself driving under the influence not even focusing on the driving aspect because she's so busy trying to show her snapchat That she's driving under the influence And she's 16 She's like 17 at this point.

16:35I would say. Yeah I mean it's to the point where she does everything but driving while driving She films rant videos while driving. She's lip-syncing for tiktok doing just about anything but focusing on her driving. She's showing off her furry pink steering wheel cover, zooming in on her face during songs, showing off her nails, showing off her lashes, her oversized sunglasses. In some videos, she's parked. So she's not actively driving, but she does go after other people that she disagrees with on the road. So she'll like be parked and show another car and be like, look at this R word. He's literally parked on the line.

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20:19Just generally speaking, whenever she's driving, she's kind of looking like a bozo. She'll wear these sunglasses that look like two dinner plates on her face Which I guess you could say is objectively cute, but it's not cute at all to do this while driving I mean the amount of times her phone will fall while she's driving and recording is rage inducing Just focus on driving. Holy shit. There's one video where she shows that she's doing Butterflies with her legs on her seat. So her feet are nowhere near the pedal or the brakes She's like crisscross applesauce The car is going. Yeah, so it seems like she's probably on cruise control on the highway.

20:54What? And her attention is definitely on showing off that she's cruise controlling and crisscross applesauce rather than on the road. She's not focused on the road. Another video shows she's lip syncing the words to a song that go, I go fast like NASCAR. And she's, again, driving while doing this. There's another video where she's lip syncing to songs and she closes her mouth every time the N word is saying, which is the correct thing to do. but she's also at the same time going through all of her copious pages upon thousands of pages of text messages calling her boyfriend the n-word when she's mad at him so i don't know why she feels the need to be performative about it she is often and very often like mad at her boyfriend dom for seemingly no good reason at all but more on that later there's another video of her where she's going 93 miles per hour on the highway with a car that's pretty close in front of her and she's taking this video and I really don't understand the purpose of the video.

21:51I don't know if it's to show off. I don't know if it's just to be included in a future FOIA file. I don't understand. There was no aesthetic value to the video. There's no message in the video. It was just bizarre. She's just trying to show off how fast she's going? Yeah. There's a DM exchange between Mackenzie and another friend earlier in 2022 where Mackenzie messages them, go run your car off a bridge. I'm dead. I'll just crash my car into your car. They respond, I hope you die when you do that. Now, within a few days, they are talking just like normal friends. So I guess this is their friendly version of banter.

22:28But it's just, if you were to take out the rest of this case and just comb through Mackenzie's social media, not knowing what's going on, you would come to the conclusion that she is an incredibly reckless teenager with basically zero foresight that will say, do and post whatever she feels without any thought about consequences. She's not exactly a likable individual as well. That doesn't inherently make her guilty of a crime, but I am saying she's incredibly unlikable and she was found guilty of the crime, but nevertheless, I feel like I have been trapped in the inner workings of Mackenzie's mind for God knows how long now, and it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to even muster up an ounce of sympathy for her just based on how she speaks to people through text messages, DMs, what she posts, and obviously, ultimately, her actions.

23:20It's just, um, I hate it here. She'll complain to her friends about how she got banned from TikTok Live for seven days because, quote, I was literally calling people ugly and saying, fuck, but they chose to ban me for saying that. Whack. Then she'll go on Instagram, look up TikTok's official Instagram account, and then DM them. Fuck you guys. Fuck you guys. make it so bad for creators. Fuck you guys. I hate y 'all. Fuck you. Y 'all support system is shit. Reply to my DM.

23:49She'll post videos ranting. Why is TikTok targeting the fuck out of my account? I cannot. Like this was posted literally days ago on the 4th of July. So why was it taken down? It's literally not. I'm pissed. Which is a very interesting tactic considering right around this time Mackenzie is trying to become an influencer, if you will. She wants to be famous. She expresses that pretty much verbatim multiple times that she wants to be famous. I'm not entirely sure how cursing out the TikTok social media intern is going to get you there, but that's exactly what she's doing. She also rants about ghost followers.

24:22She's ranting to a friend through Instagram DMs. They just ruined my engagement. Stalker ghost followers. It ruins engagement. I'm over here trying to gain because if you have all these followers and it's getting pushed out to them, but they don't like it, it just ruins it. To another friend, she rants. It's literally making me so mad. Like, I hate these weird fucking ghosts following bitches. They hate to see me succeeding. Like, anytime a pretty girl is doing good, they don't like that. What did she complain? That they ghost follow her but don't like her photos. She complains that certain photos won't even get 200 likes these days and so she has to hide her likes.

24:55Which sounds like a personal problem because you really don't have to hide them. No one cares. But at the same time, she's reaching out to big clothing brands like I am Gia saying, hey, I'm Gia. I know I've reached out here before, but consistency is key. I would love to work together and collaborate with you guys. Thank you for being a weight inclusive brand. Then in another TikTok, she's modeling a see-through cover up and the audio plays. All I want is just one day here where I'm not visually assaulted by uglies and fatties. So she's like, thank you, I am Gia, for being weight inclusive. And then she's also posting TikToks being like visually assaulted by uglies and fatties.

25:31for modeling. She likes to send pitches through Instagram DM that read and like it's very interesting that I'm like reading through her pitches to all of these. It's just unhinged. She says, I believe I'm a great model because I'm a petite girl and we don't see enough of us represented in the industry. I have modeling experience and I've done several photo shoots and walked runways. I'm 5 '3 and have a fiery personality and I'm willing to travel. But then in another rant video, she posts, I just wanted to make this video and talk about things that i don't like i don't like when people eat mcdonald's it grosses me the fuck out i don't like swishers and what else do i oh i don't like when people talk about the world and be like oh we're all gonna be dead in 60 years anyways please go fucking kill yourself yep i said it go die bitch so like her dms and what she's posting are completely not even in the same realm of like who she's trying to present herself at is it's she's posting these publicly yeah so she had three tiktok account they just kept getting banned and then she would post a ton of stuff on snapchat she was under the impression i think that snapchat deletes forever and ever and like the law enforcement no one can get it but they keep everything oh yeah they kept everything i mean i saw private voice memos she sent to her friends on snapchat i saw she would take screenshots on her phone and send it to her friends on snapchat of what she's doing on a website i'm gonna talk about this more in depth later but she's like filling out a fake id website she's got her name in there her address her phone number she's taking fake id photos screenshotting it like sending it to her friends on snapchat and i'm just like seeing it all that's crazy yeah all in a incriminating record or it is all on Snapchat?

27:19Just like in a series of zip files. Yeah. Wow. She does partake in a lot of the TikTok trends too. So you know the one that it's like, oh, put a finger down, you know, blah, blah, blah. And there's a lot of variations for it. But she chooses specifically to do the one that says put a finger down, psycho edition. And she's with her friend doing this. If you get more than five fingers, you're a psycho. You won't see me anywhere near you. So this is not Mackenzie's voice. This is, you know, the audio. and Mackenzie is giggling and she's listening. Put a finger down if you thought about choking someone next to you just because you can and they won't be expecting it.

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27:54She's like giggling, puts a finger down. Put a finger down if you put ranch on your pizza. She does not put a finger down. Put a finger down if you're a Leo, Sagittarius, Scorpio, or Cancer, you're automatically a psycho. She puts a finger down. She's got three left. Put a finger down if when your parents are yelling at you, you stare them directly in their eye for a long period of time just to intimidate them. She puts a finger down. Put a finger down if you go to sleep with socks on. She still has two fingers. Put a finger down if someone close to you is crying and the only thing that you can think of is trying not to laugh because it's a defense mechanism.

28:28She puts another finger down. Put a finger down if you like to chew ice. She puts a fifth finger down and she starts back up on her next hand. Put a finger down if you think you can kill someone and get away with it. She does not put a finger down. Put a finger down if you predict conversations with someone else on your own, just so you know what to say when the time comes. She puts a finger down. Put a finger down if when you get angry enough, you start crying, but it's not tears of joy. She puts another finger down. Six days before the crash, Mackenzie sends a DM to Trisha Paytas on her Instagram account, Trish, I want to meet you, which goes unanswered.

29:06She also reaches out to the controversial influencer, Anna Paul, Anna come smoke with me She also does not get a response And then she reaches out to Tana Mojo And DMs her Tana my boyfriend cheated on me Smoke a blunny with me please So she's just like doing a lot on Instagram She's reaching out to freaking Vogue She's like reaching out to euphoria Yeah okay we're gonna get there And she's reaching out to influencers Trying to get high with them She even posts on TikTok with the audio I'm not even cool I'm just one of those girls that can do a lot of drugs and not die I will note that it's very interesting that her parents were supposedly following her on social media where she's posting herself smoking and driving and doing all of these things.

29:47And she's 17. But much, much more to come about the parents, Natalie and Steve, in a later episode. Now, the most controversial of Mackenzie's TikTok, though, is from Halloween. She's with three of her friends and they're all in the same costume. Well, different variations of it. But Mackenzie is dressed in an all black look. She's got these black furry boots, black ripped leggings, this super, super tight corset, and this ribbed black top where it looks like someone just put it through a paper shredder. And you can see part of her chest that in her TikTok post, she keeps covering up with an emoji.

30:21And her makeup, since it's Halloween, she has painted her face white with these big black circles around her eyes and a red, almost Joker-like smile. It's supposedly inspired by Playboy Cardi and the look that he would sometimes perform with. It was like during a very specific era of his career, which some people called it the clown era, but it's more of this vampy corpse theatrical comic book villain inspired look. It did look really cool when he would perform on stage with that look. But but this Halloween post becomes one of Mackenzie's most controversial social media posts, more than her posting herself driving while smoking weed.

30:57Because everyone says that she looks like she dressed up as a corpse. Mackenzie's friends are saying, no, that's not true. We were dressed up as Playboy Cardi. But also, what about it? Like, what if she dressed up as a corpse? It's Halloween. Get a grip. But it's not the holiday and it's not the costume. It is the timing of this Halloween. People are upset because this was posted and this was done Halloween of 2022. Just three months after Mackenzie was in a fatal car crash where she was the driver that killed her boyfriend Dom and their friend Davion. She was out and about? Yeah. Oh, this is not even the first time she's out and about post-crash.

31:37It's called post-traumatic amnesia, or basically a black hole of time where the brain simply fails to record anything from a window of time, typically the time of injury. People have reported that in their own car crashes, they have a gaping hole in their memory. They remember getting in the car, pulling onto the road. They even remember what song was playing, and then they don't remember anything. They remember nothing. They don't remember the moment of impact. In fact, some people don't even remember talking to the paramedics at the crash site. They know that they were answering questions, but they don't recall a single second of it.

32:09They just recall waking up in the hospital. That is what Mackenzie and her mom state is happening to Mackenzie. Natalie says about her daughter Mackenzie, she remembers waking up. She remembers leaving the house. Then she remembers turning on the street and that's it. She was trying to remember, like she's trying. And I'm like, Mackenzie, you can't. It's just not there. in a voice memo to a friend Mackenzie said I'm just I'm not doing okay like it doesn't feel real I keep saying this but it doesn't feel real like I don't know what the fuck happened thank you for being there for me it just means a lot like I don't remember anything like that is this is just the worst it is understandable to some degree but it's difficult when she's the driver of the car and she's the only one that's alive she's the only one with answers as to what happened in that car and she says she doesn't remember.

32:55Davion's dad says, I can see how someone could have some amnesia from the impact of the crash, but the timing just seems really perfect. I don't understand how your amnesia just lasted the exact right amount of time to not be able to help the police with their investigation. Mackenzie says, it was five in the morning. They were all at their friend's house. So it was like a bunch of friends gathered and they decided to head home. So she's like, we decided to head home back to Dom's. so it's her Dom and Davion in the car and she says and I remember turning on the street and then I'm waking up in the hospital the next day and I don't I mean my whole life is shattered the whole morning is just like nothing I mean it sounds crazy like but I like I can't I'm not gonna just lie just because people want to hear a story I have no recollection of that morning and that's that I mean still to this day four years later Mackenzie states she still does not remember what happened in that car.

33:49She does not remember how she crashed straight into the brick building, how her foot was all the way on the gas pedal, never once touching the brake pedal, and ultimately she doesn't remember a single thing about crashing the car, killing Dominic and Davion. She says she still does not remember. The prosecutor says at that point when they left their friend's house, I mean we just have this black hole in the timeline. The officer knocks on the door to hospital room 715. Mackenzie's mom Natalie invites the officer in there's a few other people in the hospital room so there's Mackenzie in her cast she's got cast on her legs on her arm she's in a neck brace she's laying on the hospital bed Mackenzie's mom Natalie is there Mackenzie's dad Steve is there and two female friends of Mackenzie are there they quickly like the second day yeah and they quickly leave so now there's just a detective that walked in besides they're visiting I don't think they want to stick around for this.

34:43The officer starts filling out a property release form and then that's when the doctor walks in. So the officer is like writing all of this in his report. He's like, I walked in, I saw all these people and then I was filling out a property release form because I came here to give the things that were found on Mackenzie's person in the crash. Her purse, cash, like these are things that he has to give back. Not the drugs because there were drugs found, but he's not going to give those back. So he's filling out this property release form and in the notes, He notes some very interesting exchanges.

35:12So first of all, Mackenzie's doctor walks in and Mackenzie refuses to take a shot that's going to help her with her pain, which fine, right? Second, Mackenzie gets into a full blown argument with her dad where she kicks him out of the room. She kicks her dad out of the hospital room after cussing him out. And the officer is like noting this in his report. She's doing all that in front of the officer? Yeah. And this is when the detective is like, you know what? I'm just going to wait for the doctor to leave. I'm going to be in the hallway filling out the rest of these forms. And while he's out in the hallway, he starts having a conversation with Mackenzie's parents, Natalie and Steve.

35:45And he's just explaining the whole process of like, yes, we're going to give you back this Michael Kors backpack. And there's some cash that we found as well as clothes in the car that were recovered from the crash scene. We're going to give those back. And then he writes in his report. They hear a scream from inside the hospital room while the officer is talking to Mackenzie's parents out in the hallway. quote, Mackenzie started yelling, telling us to not talk without her being present. Mackenzie is telling the parents not to talk? And the police. And the police? The officer, the detective. Without her being present?

36:16Yeah, she's like, why are you guys talking? I mean, I don't know exactly the words, but he writes in the report, she started yelling, telling us not to talk without her being present. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. What? So the three, the officer, Natalie and Steve Schirrilla, they shuffle back into the hospital room, and the officer starts detailing the search warrant and the basic nature of the entire investigation. Once he walks back into the hospital room, he is audio recording. And he lets the Shravillas know. And he explains, you know, the search warrant lists the nature of the crime we're investigating as an aggravated vehicular homicide times two because two people were killed in the car crash.

36:52It does not mean, you know, we're not charging you with aggravated vehicular homicide. And the officer is trying to explain that everything's really now in the hands of the county. It is the county that decides whether or not there's going to be any charges that are pressed. He says it's not the families, so it's not going to be up to Dom and Davion's families. The state chooses whether or not they want to charge. Is this the first time they found out what type of charges they could be facing? I think they kind of knew, but they are shocked by the information that Dom and Davion's family have no say.

37:27Because they seem disgruntled, and Natalie, the mom, is like, why? And she's basically asking, like, well, what if the families don't want to press charges? And the officer is like, it's not up to the families. Like, it's not up to them. This is not a civil case. Like, they can't seem to understand that if the two families of the deceased decide not to press charges, why on earth would the county press charges? And they're confused by it, which is crazy because the officer is like, I mean, it's a crime. Like, what do you mean? This is not civil court. Like, I'm a detective. And so Mackenzie asks the officer at this point, can I say something to her?

38:05And she's referencing saying something to her mom. So the officer is like, sure. Yeah. Mackenzie turns to her mom and starts speaking rapidly in a language that the officer cannot identify. He can't even tell you. Like he can't even tell you, oh, she turned to her mom and was speaking in, I think, Korean. I think Spanish. I think Portuguese. He's never heard this cadence before. Like he can't even figure out like does it sound eastern european does it sound east asian like south asian like he can't even pinpoint where geographically this type of cadence and dialect sounds like it's coming from and mckenzie is rapid fire talking to her mom clearly natalie is understanding everything she ends the conversation with mckenzie in english saying you can and that's when mckenzie grunts can you can you just take my whole license away for 10 years or something like that to the police yes in my opinion the officer sounds kind of flabbergasted and he just hits her with a do you have a lawyer talk to your lawyer but once the detective leaves he's so intrigued by this whole incident of this language that he cannot decipher he reaches out to the chair of the department of world languages at a local university and they tell him i let two other language instructors listen and we were all on the same page we all don't think what we're hearing here is a natural spoken language i thought of your suggestion about it being pig latin or something like that and i think you're right given the speed at which it's spoken it is unlikely to be natural so she's saying it doesn't sound like a foreign language the cadence and the phonetics of speaker one mackenzie are all clearly american english okay so it's not like they just know some languages and they're like oh it's not the ones we know they study like the cadence and tones of languages and they're like it's the cadence is american english yeah so like it did you hear yeah i knew pig latin in high school it does sound like pig latin pig latin is the one that you move some so you move the first letter to the back and then you add a at the end so instead of stephanie it would be like tephanie say okay yeah but can Can you say that in like a natural way?

40:23Like, can you actually talk to people in that? When I was really young, I remember Pig Latin was like a huge thing. And I could not speak anywhere near as quickly as Mackenzie does in this audio file. But you can, kind of. Okay, okay. You can. So was it Pig Latin? It is not. But it is a different, like there's so many variations of these types of. later it is identified by mackenzie's dad steve to be carny talk it's kind of like pig latin but it was actually um used heavily by people who worked carnivals that's why it's called carny talk i guess they wanted a different way to speak to each other just so that they can communicate without i guess communicating in front of like you know i don't know right maybe it's like yeah But it's like widely known to be spoken amongst people originally who would run carnivals.

41:21That's why I guess it's called a carny talk. That's interesting. So, okay. Now, was it decoded? Yes. Now, this decoding of the message has been disputed, obviously. The prosecutors have decoded it. And they believe what was said in that hospital room just days after the crash. Steve Shirela is like, that's not what my daughter said. You, you decide. Mackenzie is stating she doesn't remember a single important detail of this car accident right but then she turns to her mom and the prosecutor believes she said can we just tell them I had a seizure that that was it yeah like it was like can we just tell them I had a seizure or something like that like can we just tell them whoa the three people in that car the early morning of July 31st 2022 where like I said Mackenzie is in the driver's seat her boyfriend Dom is in the front passenger seat and their friend Davion is in the back seat.

42:16A lot of people believe that Mackenzie and her boyfriend Dom got into a fight in the car which leads Mackenzie to freak out going over 90 miles per hour and slamming into a brick building with Davion's life by netizens speculations not being considered by Mackenzie. They think that Mackenzie is the type of person to just you know someone in the back is not pertinent to her or her relationship and the fight is the most important thing that could be happening in the car. Now this is obviously a netizen theory. It is one of the more widely accepted versions of events of what netizens think occurred in the car that night, which is why there's going to be a lot of time spent throughout the episode on Mackenzie and Dom's relationship.

42:57It is not because Davion's life was not important or that we don't want to spend time talking about Davion. It's because most people believe that whatever happened in the car could have to do with what Mackenzie felt about Dom. It was reported that Mackenzie has known Davion since they were both in middle school, since they were in the same class. It's unclear if this is true or if they ever really even spoke at all, but according to one of their friends, Davion and Dom started hitting it off recently. Dom has a recording studio in his house and Davion's dream was to be a rapper, so it just kind of made sense that they would become friendly.

43:30They're not necessarily best friends. They're not necessarily that close. They actually have very different friend groups and interests, but recently they started hanging out and connecting over music and we're gonna go in depth because davion is actually staying at dom's house when all of this is happening so davion's family had gone on vacation davion had just started a new job so he can't just take two weeks off to go on family vacation so he's like i'm gonna stay in town but his parents were a little concerned about him staying alone so he was like okay i'm just gonna crash at my friend dom's place that's crazy how How long have they been staying together?

44:05It doesn't seem that long, but it seems like they were friends for months ahead of time. So it's not like, oh, they just met and he's staying with Dom. But it's not like, oh, Dom and Davion were best friends since middle school and they all hung out and these are, you know. It's like more of a newer friendship that's been developing. So we're going to go in depth about what Davion's family have said as well as the foundation that they've set up for him in a later episode. but just keep in mind it's a lot of the focus will be on Mackenzie and Dom throughout some of these episodes not because Davion's life is less important than anyone else's.

44:37His family and friends have spoken extensively about what he meant to them, how he impacted their lives, and what it means for them now that he's been taken away from them which we're going to cover in a later episode. So with that being said we're just going to get into the relationship. Mackenzie and Dom have been dating for years before the crash at this point in time dom is 20 mackenzie is about to turn 18 the crash actually happens like a few days before her 18th birthday they've been dating for years they were both minors they both met in high school but now that dom has graduated he's living in his own house so he lives alone he does live right next door to his mom so he lives alone but he's right next door to his mom and he sees his mom a lot his mom cooks dinner he comes over for dinner it's not like completely independent of a lifestyle but also he's 20 so he's living the lifestyle that i think a lot of 20 year old guys probably live but mackenzie she's still in high school so it is alarming that she's posting a lot of the things that she's posting and at some point it's believed that mackenzie had fully moved into dom's house and was living with him at 17 years old and her parents are seeing these things they're seeing what's being posted and they're completely fine with it for example the two of them have the parents are seeing like the smoking driving i would think so because they follow her on instagram whoa that's crazy okay they have a stripper pole in the house that they will post videos dom in his house which again i think this is very normal for a 20 year old guy i don't think it's normal for a 17 year old girl to be allowed to live in that house regardless of if it's her boyfriend and that is the fault of the shirillas but she'll post videos of people dancing on the stripper poles they are fully clothed and people will just like throw bills in the air.

46:19So it does seem like high school fun. It doesn't seem nefarious or anything, but it is just a very specific type of lifestyle that I would imagine most parents would not want their 17 year old daughter to be engaged in at this point being 17 years old. They would host parties at Don's house because he had his own house. And there is an incident that has been coming up on social media. Before the crash, the police had already gone out to the house earlier that year in 2022 because at one of these parties, a girl falls down the stairs. And the police describe it as she almost died. We're going to call her Kay, but side note, Davion was also there and it's been reported that Davion was actually one of the only people that helped her before the medics came.

47:00Now, a lot of people apparently just like ran off when she fell because there were clearly questionable activities going on in the house, potentially underage drinking, smoking weed. I think they were very concerned about not getting in trouble versus you know worrying about their friend's life the girl that fell k ends up in a medically induced coma for weeks like she she genuinely almost died it was not a hyperbolic way of speaking it's not the police being like she almost died she's a teenager no she was she almost died what what happened like what nobody knows so obviously k's parents don't believe the simple explanation of oh she just fell understandably so like i would want very thorough answers to It just doesn't make sense to them.

47:42In the FOIA file, there are Snapchat messages between Mackenzie and her friends talking about this fall and trying to piece together all of them. You don't really get a thorough story of what even happened, but you get that there were suspicions. One person who attended the party audio messages Mackenzie. Legit, what I was saying to people, so it seems like, if I had to get context clues, and this is just me guessing out of my butt, it seems like Mackenzie is confronting this girl. Like, are you going around telling people that she didn't fall? are you going around telling people that someone pushed her because she's explaining right this girl is like explaining to kenzie like this is what i said legit what i was saying to people because they were even saying that k was not that drunk like how could have this happened she wasn't even that fucked up because she wasn't and i said i don't know no alcohol was in her system a lot of the police and her parents and a lot of the people are thinking that she got pushed there was foul play in it and i said if there was a possibility that there were girls there and they were drunk.

48:40I said, I never thought that they distinctively pushed her. I said, if anything were to have happened, it would have been maybe they were play fighting with each other and they got too rowdy and drunk because that's how fucking girls get when they're fucking drunk. And I did see hella girls by the stairs and by the fucking door. And I had explained to people, if it was anything like that, it would have been they missed their step and accidentally pushed Kay on purpose. And it wasn't like... Accidentally pushed her on purpose? Yeah, and it wasn't a full-on push. Accidentally hit her while she was about to go down the stairs.

49:14She explains that Kay had this big bag of clothes she was carrying. And she states that she told people that she theorized that weighed her down. And that's what made her tumble down the stairs. I never said that people were pushing her and had pushed her. That's what the police think. And that's why I'm trying to get a picture of the stairs. So I can literally tell them it wasn't like that. I don't know. My mom was like, they don't think that she just did all that just from falling down the stairs. Like she has basically saying like, my mom doesn't think Kay has all these injuries from just falling down the stairs.

49:45Right. And I was like telling her, do you really think people would fucking beat up Kay and we would just all fucking cover that shit up? I honestly just think that's what they think is happening. So that's why I just need a picture of the stairs. I never said anyone pushed her. nothing could have pointed to her falling down the stairs except her missing a step or someone accidentally falling onto her accidentally tripping over her accidentally catching her step like that's all i said but she literally said it could have been someone who pushed her though accidentally pushed her on purpose yeah yeah okay in one audio message mackenzie is ranting to another friend and i don't know if it's about this person right i'm just again piecing together these like random Snapchat data and trying to figure out what the hell is happening.

50:29And like, none of these are like really even in chronological order. So, but she says, this is Mackenzie. Tell me why I just got off the phone with fucking Sammy. And supposedly Emily did not even try to fucking catch her. Emily ran away and threw up. That's what Sammy is saying. And Sammy was the one down there. So Emily is a major fucking problem right now. It's just weird. Like if she genuinely fell down the stairs without any sort of foul play involved. I just, I mean, maybe this is how high schoolers act and they like to start drama, but this is such a serious thing. I don't think, it's just very odd.

51:07Mackenzie eventually makes like an Instagram story and I don't know what she's trying to do. If she's trying to clear the air, make the situation worse, I think more so the latter. But she says, just a PSA, if any of you think that that party situation is my fault, you can go fuck yourself and leave my story right now. Yeah, because we let all you underage little fucks into our beautiful home just to do illegal things and you want to blame us? Aren't you all the ones that ran out of the house and left and shook her while we called the police and got her there? Yeah, please go fuck yourself and kill yourself, bitch.

51:39Whoa. Interestingly, later Dom's mom, so Mackenzie's boyfriend's mom, who lives right next door, says about the situation. she supposedly pushed her down the steps in reference to mackenzie dom's mom describes the situation later to the officer saying so the big story was i'm so sorry was this talked about before the crash or after the after the crash so it was you know during the fall i don't think dom's mom got involved because dom is 20 you know so this and i don't know like how it escalated there's no reference to dom's mom getting involved after the crash to report any of this i don't think she really knew because i mean she's dom's mom no one's going to her telling her oh what's been happening with the kids recently so i think what happened was after the crash it seemed that dom's mom did report to the police a lot of dom's friends were coming to her and telling her information about mackenzie because they feel weird about the crash so they're like because your son has got like that was our friend we want to help here's this weird information we've been knowing but like we would have never told you that before the crash because like we just thought it was like relationship drama or like weird stuff and we don't have proof and so she explains to the officers i'm sorry when was the fall how early 2022 like january and the crash happened july 31st 2022 six months seven seven she says so the big story was this girl fell down the steps how did she fall you know she had no alcohol in her system we we have a guardrail there's a handrail and then as time went on, Kenzie was the one that told me personally, she said these girls were really out to get her because they were accusing her of pushing this girl down the steps and she's saying at that time in January, I said, well, what, why in the world would you ever push that girl?

53:27And she just said, I wouldn't push that girl down the steps. So she's like, I just didn't think nothing of it at the time, but after the fact, I'm sitting here thinking and I'd asked another friend of Dom's when he called me and he said, did you hear that, you know, she pushed the girl down the steps? So Dom's friend also believed she pushed her down the steps. And again, I know that he might be a little crazy, Dom's friend or whatever, but he's the one who said that too. So she's like, I don't know. She's just telling the police, like, this is what I heard. And like Mackenzie also told me people were accusing her at the time of pushing the girl down the stairs.

54:02And then now I'm talking to one of Dom's friends who also thinks that she pushed her down the stairs it's just weird how is the friend okay I think she's okay did she did she ever say what happened now I do think that is a pretty crazy accusation to make that Mackenzie would push another girl down the steps to the point of her almost dying I think that it would really take a very specific personality for people to think that she's capable of such a thing. Because you can't just walk around and think, oh, anyone is capable of killing somebody and pushing them down the stairs to the point of like a medically induced coma.

54:39Like you would have to be a very specific type of personality where people can look at you and think, I could see you doing that. Yeah, and that's a very serious allegation, right?

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57:30mackenzie seems to have gone through a lot of friend groups in high school and the ones that she is no longer friends with naturally they don't have a lot of great things to say about her a former friend of mackenzie says i know she smokes weed i mean that's literally her personality trait that's it that's about it just smoking weed she will post tiktoks responding to creators So she'll like duet TikToks, Mackenzie will. And it'll say things like, how do you smoke but you can't roll? Meaning like you can't roll a blunt joint. And it's the song like, you is such a loser. Right? And she'll duet it and show Dom as like, oh, well, I don't know how to roll because my boyfriend does it for me.

58:10That's the vibe. But I guess she gets inspired because she also uses the sound to do her own TikTok about weed. She is lip syncing the words, you is such a loser. and the caption is, when girls only hang out with me because they know I have weed. She really does love smoking weed. On her notes app on her phone, police found a birthday wish list and amongst those was weed socks. So I guess like the socks with the little marijuana leaves on there. Just not really fashion forward, but okay. Her TikTok handles were baby cush, baby cushy, weed references. Cushy means weed? I think cush. Oh, okay. She has another video where she's smiling and the caption reads, when everybody knows me not from popularity, but from my horrible reputation.

58:53So like she seems to get off on knowing that Strongsville kind of hates her. She has another TikTok where she's in a school library with other people and the words on the screen just read, most hated bitches of Strongsville. She seems proud. Now, side note, Strongsville is the suburbs outside of Cleveland, Ohio, which it seems like it's reminiscent of a lot of suburban areas in America, cookie cutter housing developments, chain restaurants, massive parking lots to accommodate every single fucking shopping plaza. The mall is probably the hangout spot. I grew up in the suburbs. I hated it. So I can see why Mackenzie doesn't fit in and maybe she doesn't like it.

59:29She has a distinct style and a stronger personality, if you want to call it that. But she does protest about how much she hates Strongsville. She'll make TikToks like, I seriously can't do, I can't do school anymore. It's so stupid. And it makes me feel so dumb. and bitch, I want to go to New York or Florida. I just want to go somewhere with good food and good pics. To take pictures? Yeah, I think it's a very interesting way to like figure out the next city you're going to live in like good food and good pics. But she herself also stirs shit up all the time. She's the type to send audio notes like this.

1:00:01I don't even know who she sent it to, but she sends an audio note. And you need to get a facial every month, your skin looking mad crusty, and you have a pizza face, like literally you're ugly as fuck. get the fuck out of my comments bitch damn so like a friend yeah one person says one of my friends said that they were in a group chat with her and before school she would call the group chat over and over and over and over and over again so much so that you couldn't even open the group chat because like you were just getting calls like spammed and it was because she didn't know what she wanted to wear to school so she's just like spam calling everybody she's also just like a very confusing person.

1:00:41She likes to DM friends things like every woman's body is beautiful. Like I swear every friend has seen a different version of Mackenzie and I can see that through her DMs and text messages. To some friends she presents herself as like this girl's girl who loves people and she just gets hated on on TikTok because you know haters right. And then to other people she's like you have a fucking pizza face. It's just shocking. Okay so she's DMing a friend. Every woman's body is beautiful. Every woman is a fucking goddess. Men need to learn. Then in other DMs, she's calling people fat bitches. In one text exchange, she tells Dom, the bitch in the Jeep was about to try to not let me go and I almost got in a car accident in front of her.

1:01:23Dom responds, what a bitch. Mackenzie responds, I know she's fat and I gave her a dirty ass look and I'm driving slow as fuck in front of her. In another series of DMs, she's complaining about how she's stressed out at the prospect of not winning homecoming court best dressed perlative okay she rants bro if i don't win i'm a freak i don't think she wins because she gets a dm by the real winner's sister and it seems like they all have some beef okay because the little sister is like you didn't win because your outfits are ugly oh and i do think that this was a warranted thing because mackenzie was going around posting um the girl who actually won and she's wearing like a flannel shirt and she's writing really mean things like i can't believe i lost to a bitch in a flannel like it was just mean so i think the younger sister was warranted to you know you're young you're like fuck you i'm gonna stand up for my sister mckenzie responds i'm so sorry you're so insecure i mean if i was overweight i would probably make fun of pretty skinny girls too i mean maybe you heard how crazy I am.

1:02:27Have your big sissy text me if she has a problem. The younger sister responds, you're anorexic bitch shopping in the child section ain't cute. Mackenzie responds, maybe talk shit if you're going to do something about it. We can have this convo in person if you want. To which she responds, I can snap your 5 '2", 70 pound ass like a twig. Mackenzie responds, is that a threat? Maybe if you spent all the time eating, you would be happy on the inside. Now stop biting your older sister's problem meatloaf have a nice day to which the younger sister responds your ass is flat get well soon hope you end up in a hospital because your twig body got sucked away in the wind let me know i could blow air on you and you would fly away you're probably one of the ugliest people i've ever seen mckenzie responds girl i don't care i'm not insecure being ugly is an illness get well soon which i mean clearly they had problems with each other before this because what the hell is going on but that's crazy you had every single dm from Yeah, yeah.

1:03:23From a time period. It was 2 ,000 pages of DMs. And it was just like a fucking trip the whole time. Yeah. And speaking of best dress, a lot of netizens are just confused about the school's enforcement of their dress codes. If they even have one, it just doesn't make any sense. One of her favorite looks to show up to school, high school in, is she'll wear like tracksuits, Juicy Couture tracksuits, not the new ones because she obviously hates those as per her own TikTok. but the old ones and she will have her tracksuit low-waisted and then she'll be wearing like a string thong and then pull up the strings all the way up the sides effectively giving herself a wedgie i mean i get it it's a stylistic choice but you're in high school you're in high school you're wearing it to school how do you know this because she posts pictures at school of herself in the bathroom mirror she'll post tiktoks she'll do like what i wore monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday and all of them i'm like this is crazy what's the dress code right yeah what's the dress code there is an incident where the school report because we got multiple disciplinary reports from mackenzie's school and the school report reads after being seen by a teacher in the bathroom taking selfies mackenzie was asked to zip up her hoodie probably because of dress code and go to class to which she responded by calling the teacher a by calling the teacher a fucking bitch and a dumb bitch.

1:04:46So I guess there is a dress code. It just doesn't apply to Mackenzie. Neither does not being on your phone. Another school report reads, During class, Mackenzie was seen playing a game on her phone. When the teacher asked her to get off her phone, Mackenzie told her she was playing a game with her mother. The teacher repeated herself a second time and Mackenzie failed to comply. When the teacher told her to go to the administration office, Mackenzie went to the restroom and locked herself in the stall. It took several teachers to address the matter with her. In another incident, another teacher writes about Mackenzie.

1:05:14many of the students and a couple of the teachers commented on her behavior and the need for administration to take action i have been asking for help with her all year i would like her removed from my room as i am no longer comfortable with being verbally attacked in front of students and being videotaped while it's happening the teacher yeah what some people describe mckenzie as a wannabe maddie from euphoria the tv show there's one instagram dm where they tell her you're literally Maddie IRL. I aspire to have your energy one day, which Mackenzie takes this to heart. She's like, I'm Maddie IRL because she DMs Euphoria on Instagram and says, cast me.

1:05:56I'm that girl. She sends them a video, cast me. Like she says, so she's like, cast me. I'm that girl, sends a video, cast me. Then she starts just like spamming photos at this point and says season three, question mark and because i'm nosy i just wanted to do a breakdown she sends a video and then she proceeds to send 17 photos what kind of photo just like like insta pics yeah where she looks like maddie from euphoria or thinks she looks like who is maddie just uh just maddie i mean she's pretty iconic yeah but i don't think mckenzie is maddie irl right but i do feel for whatever intern was handling euphoria socials they deserve a week off because what the fuck is that she also is just messaging photos of herself to vogue runway to vogue to balenciaga she's just a very confusing individual she says she doesn't like to body shame but then she will go ahead and do that if she doesn't like someone she says she hates racism and will call people out publicly for being racist which is a good thing but she herself will use the n-word in text messages and also extensively make fun of Asian people.

1:07:07I just guess... Wait, really? Yeah, yeah. Like what? More on that later. But like she's got some crazy beef with TikTok and she's like, it's because it's fucking run by them damn Asians. This is when it was ByteDance and not Oracle. I guess confusing is just not the correct word. It's like hypocritical, right? For example, according to one school report, Mackenzie allegedly said to another student, if I was a slave owner, I would have killed and then redact insert student name, who I'm assuming is black based off of this allegation. Mackenzie denies ever saying that, but at least three witnesses claim that they heard her say that.

1:07:43And on the topic of racism, another student reported that Mackenzie airdropped them. So like on their phone, they get an airdrop. And it's a fucking meme of SpongeBob saying, I spy N-word with a har R. Like I spy a N-word with a har R. This is a black student. When asked about it, Mackenzie said, oh my gosh no i was airdropped the meme which she's dropping it to a black student that's yes and so then she's like oh my god no i never airdropped it like that's crazy i was airdropped that picture but the it just didn't seem to add up according to the school report the meme was reportedly seen on the phone and directly attributed to mckenzie there are disciplinary reports from back in 2018 where Mackenzie got into a fight with another girl while she was walking to the buses.

1:08:33She gets into a fist fight. Then another report in 2018 filed by the parent of another girl where they tell the police that they're scared that Mackenzie is going to beat up their child. The report reads, I spoke to my child who stated that while she was in third period class, Mackenzie Shirilla called her a bitch and threatened to beat her up. She stated this was all over my daughter not giving Mackenzie a Dorito chip. She also stated that Mackenzie posted on instagram last year a picture of her showing her forehead the caption that she had was a big forehead so just like bullying you know and you know mckenzie allegedly tried to repost that picture today so when authorities talked to mckenzie about it of course she's like well no she's the one that threatened to beat me up when i asked for a dorito chip which like doesn't even really make sense because it's like hey can i have a dorito chip i'm gonna beat you up like i You would just say, no, you're weird.

1:09:26Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also states that the picture on Instagram, someone took her phone and posted it. Of course, she would never do that because she's a girl's girl. It's hard to say that Mackenzie was ever universally well-liked, if liked by many at all. She says online that she doesn't like anything designer, but in 2019, there's a report of her stealing a pair of earrings from Kohl's. She was ultimately not prosecuted because the earrings were not recovered and their value was less than$20. And also another thing about really liking designer, she doesn't really like designer. She likes DHgate, which nothing's wrong with dupes, but she just like is so up in arms and has the superiority complex because she has a Christian Dior bag.

1:10:06But I can literally see her in her DMs on Instagram sending people DHgate links to where she gets her stuff. So she's like, I hate brokies. But then it's like, you can't really say that when you're, I only wear designer. I hate brokies, but your bag is DHgate. And nothing is wrong with a DHK bag, but it's also like kind of weird. Yeah, hypocrite. Yes. A lot of things are hypocritical. She will smoke weed until she's apparently coughing up black stuff because she's essentially fast tracking her lungs to an early demise. But she's also super, super anal about sticking to an organic, non-GMO, gluten-free diet.

1:10:43Really? And why is she? Is there a medical reason? She says, quote, in a DM to someone, it helps my spiritual journey. She says, to be honest, I love fruit. So that's probably my favorite meal. Just any fruit. She gets upset when her friends eat her popcorn because she only likes natural, all-organic popcorn. But also, some people, you know, they would call her baby kush because she literally smokes so much weed and posts about it all over social media and then that was her TikTok handle. So what's going on? She also rants about restaurants. You think their seafood is freshly caught? Like, none of it was.

1:11:17I don't want no farm fish. That's nasty as fuck. In another DM message, someone sends her a link to melatonin gummies, it seems like, to help her sleep. And Mackenzie responds, is it natural? They respond, yes babes, our brains produce it naturally. This should be a case study that organic food consumption does not make one brighter than the rest. Let's just say, if Mackenzie is going to have an anti-fan club, there are going to be people lined up around the block to be the president of that anti-fan club. And probably for good reason. She's just not really, objectively speaking, a great person, in my opinion.

1:11:54Am I telling you this in the context of the crash? Not necessarily, because legally it doesn't work like that. I mean, just because you're kind of a weird brat doesn't mean you're guilty of a crime. However, I do think that this is all contextual information that would be necessary to understand the case in its entirety and what people have been saying and why they've been saying certain things. after extensively researching, I can try to group up the three major groups of people and how they feel about this case. The first group of people, they obviously believe that whatever happened that night in the car, they believe it was an accident.

1:12:28Now, this is like the smallest of the people from what I could see anecdotally, just like surfing on Reddit, but I'm not a freaking AI data analyst. I don't know, but it just seems like a smaller group of people that believe that it must have in an accident because it doesn't make sense. You know, they think that maybe Mackenzie suffered a medical emergency, passed out on the wheel causing this accident, or maybe it's like a car malfunction and even though the police ruled it out, you never know. The larger masses, however, believe it was planned. Now to what degree is up for debate. So the second group of people believe that Mackenzie planned this crash days in advance, that she was going to crash the car with Dom in it and Davion just happened to be in the car and she has no regard for anybody's life but her own.

1:13:12A few days before she turned 18, like that, people are saying it's intentional. She allegedly, they claim, scoped out the crash site. Now, there is evidence that she was on that road previously, but people have interpreted that differently. Some people are saying like this was a known cut through. Other people are saying like, no, she was scoping out the crash site. So take it as you will. But they believe that she drove down the same road multiple times beforehand she planned it to the t because she knew dom was going to break up with her soon and davion just happened to be in the car now the third group of people do they believe mckenzie is planning to be alive after the crash or i think there's subgroups of people um some people think that she might not have had that foresight some people think like she probably does because if evidenced by her social media of posting her driving and smoking there are certain teenagers who live very reckless lifestyles and who believe that they are almost like physically invincible other people believe that she just like is such an emotionally volatile evil person that she doesn't even care about her own safety interesting but there's lots of nuanced debates that we're going to get into later because her head was found under the dash so some people are saying oh that's like evidence that she could have fainted before the crash some people are saying like that could have happened just because the airbags are deploying other people are saying she intentionally did it so that she her face wouldn't get busted from the airbags and she's a narcissist so it's all just everyone has their own opinion about it.

1:14:49Now, the third group of people, they don't necessarily think that Mackenzie has been planning this days in advance, but they do think that there was intent. They do think that this is murder because whatever happened in the car, most likely they believe is an argument that broke out between Mackenzie and Dom. And still, Mackenzie has no regard for Dom or especially Davion's life because he's just in the back seat. She crashes the car in rage and that is still intentional murder. So these are like the three main groups that I've seen. Obviously, the legal outcome of this case supports the second and third theory that this was intentional murder, which there is intent behind the crash, which is why a lot of people have taken to trying to analyze Mackenzie and Dom's relationship as it all feels highly relevant.

1:15:36Whatever happened in the car, most people believe it's either because Mackenzie didn't want Dom to break up with her soon or because she got enraged during a fight in the car and was ready to kill him for it. One friend says Dom provided everything for Mackenzie. Mackenzie didn't work a job. Mackenzie would live with Dom. Dom would provide for her like with everything. Dom would buy her groceries. Dom would buy her clothes. Anything, anything that Mackenzie needed, Dom gets it for her. So they had this relationship where it's like they were just ready to move on and marry. So they felt like, you know, it was very serious, but Dom was like the provider.

1:16:11He would even be expected to provide for mackenzie's weed consumption she would make literal demands there are text messages between the two where she says maybe if you listened for one second enclosed by the way she writes enclosed like an enclosure like a cage listen enclosed instead of closed like she's trying to say enclosed your mouth but she's saying enclosed like an enclosure oh yeah oh just listen and close your mouth yeah but she said enclosed she's like maybe if you listen for a second and closed your fucking mouth you you would hear what i was saying but you just don't fucking stop going i'm so fucking fed up with this shit i'm giving you one more chance to give me weed or there's gonna be issues i i'm gonna do a whole separate video part four of this series, we're just going to go down pretty much every fight that they've had through text messages because it is a 31 ,000 page document with over 90 ,000 text messages that are highly relevant to this case.

1:17:16So that's going to be in part four. So like a few episodes later, and that's kind of like a standalone episode. I mean, it's just literally just going to be analyzing the full text document and the journey of their relationship, because there's a lot that happens through 2020 through 2022. There's text messages, messages, days leading up to the crash and all of the fights that are happening. Cause there's some, a lot of explosive fights and you can really see McKenzie's. I don't even want to, it almost feels abusive. Like it, you'll see a lot of things in that episode, but that's going to be in part four.

1:17:49And this concludes the first half of part one of this series. I'm going to, in the second half of part one of this series, We're going to go through some of the text messages that showcase their relationship dynamic, as well as the crash itself. When the officers get there, who called 911, what Davion's friends have said, all of the crash data, the black box data, that's going to be in this second half. So stay tuned for that. Stay safe. And I will see you in the next one. Hello, I'm Ozempic. And I'm other GLP ones, kind of like him. Are you shaking a maraca? No, I'm shaking the pill version of Ozempic, which no one should ever do except in ads like this.

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From the publisher

19 year old Davion Flanagan’s family and 20 year old Dominic Russo’s family want to know what the hell happened that morning. How could 17 year old Mackenzie Shirilla drive her car straight into a brick building at 100 mph killing their two boys? How could she be the sole survivor?

 

This is the case of Mackenzie Shirilla who used a high speed, intentional motor vehicle collision to end the lives of her longterm boyfriend Dominic Russo and his friend/roommate at the time, Davion Flanagan.

 

After the release of Netflix’s documentary, ’The Crash,’ interest surrounding the case grew but audiences were left with more questions about the fuller picture. Naturally, we FOIA requested this case to the authorities and received:

 

Over 4 thousand videos.

Over 4 thousand photos.

Around 31 thousand pages of text messages.

Around 92 thousand text messages between just Mackenzie and Dominic.

Close to 800 text messages between Mackenzie and her father, Steve Shirilla.

Close to 2 thousand text messages between Mackenzie and her close friends.

As well as 2 thousand pages of Instagram DMs.

2 entire phone data extraction files with hundreds of personal videos, photos, and audio messages.

And 97 jail calls from Mackenzie post-conviction.

 

We have gone through all of it and we’re here to break it down for you.

 

 

 

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