2 Teen Girls Planned to Slit Classmate’s Throat and Drink His Blood to Resurrect a Mass Killer

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1:14They wanted to kill him in the bathroom so that they could resurrect Adam Lanza, who happens to be the Sandy Hook shooter, who cowardly self-exited after killing 26 people, 27 if you include his own mom that day. So they decide that they're going to drag this little innocent kid. This is not a, this 15 year old boy is not someone that they've had altercations with. It's not someone that they've been fighting with, which would not even be any sort of justification or reasoning, but it is completely based off the fact that Isabel Valdez, who is obsessed with Adam Lanza, believes that Adam Lanza is her soulmate, thinks that this boy looks like Adam Lanza.

1:53That's really the only reason. They plot this whole murder. They go and tell their friends Thursday night. By Friday morning, one of those friends has done the very courageous act of submitting an anonymous tip to Fortify Florida, which then alerts the school administration as well as the police of what's going to happen in the school bathroom that day. The police show up. They arrest Isabel Valdez, who very quickly just confesses to everything. The fact that she heard Adam Lanza's voice in her head, that she wants to be reunited with him. She wants to resurrect him from the dead. He is her soulmate.

2:26And Lois Lippert. They both get arrested and the police do the very smart thing of placing them both in the back of a police car, the same police car. I personally think that they drove, they took the scenic route to get to the police station because for the next 30 minutes in the back of this police car, the two girls, they say things that can never be unsaid. They squeeze the toothpaste out the tube. The defense attorneys will never be able to put it back in. It's damning. It's bad. And this is part two.

3:14inside isabel valdez's backpack along with the knife the rag the trash bags the gloves the clorox wipes there's a little note left behind and it reads dear mama and papa i'm sorry for what i'm gonna do hopefully you will find this paper i want you guys to know that none of it is your fault or anyone else's in that you know in that matter i chose to do this myself for myself and Adam Lanza. They told me that Adam would come back to speak with me if I did this for him. Adam Lanza wanted it. I think it's a fair and beautiful sense of devotion on my behalf. I love Adam Lanza. We're soulmates. Just waiting to be reunited once more.

3:53I want you guys to know that you are the most perfect parents ever. I'm sorry I could not be a better child. I've known there's been something wrong with me since I was a little kid. I just never showed it and I'm sorry. I was never really shy. I just hated people. And I was aware of how disgusting everyone is. Being forced to talk was torture. These ramblings are very reminiscent of Adam Lanza. So I'm not entirely sure if this is genuinely how she felt or if this is how she fell into this like TCC community and tried to embody this aesthetic of outcast. I never liked humanity. Mankind is doomed and society has all these values that don't mean anything.

4:33and we're just imposing values upon others. And morality is not even objective. Morality just doesn't exist as a concept. I don't know if she just like listened to the fucking five and a half hour ramblings of Adam Lanza that are incoherent most of the time and don't make good sense. But I don't know if this is how she truly felt or if this is furthering the aesthetic that she wants to be a part of. She says, I pretended to be a socialite. Just not the word to be used in that context, but to make you guys happy. because I love seeing you guys happy. It was one of the only things that made me happy.

5:08Over the years, I've just lost control over myself and my emotions. Whenever I told someone I hated you guys, it was a pure lie. I'm sorry for ever hurting you and I deserve what's coming for me, as I am also disgusting, cruel, and useless. Again, these are very reminiscent of the Columbine killers and Adam Lanza. Well, actually, maybe the Columbine killers, they believe themselves to be above humankind. But in perhaps in an attempt to get Isabel to have some remorse, The assistant principal, before she's arrested, initially asked her, did you consider how your parents or even how John's parents would feel if you went through with this?

5:43They would be sad, but I don't really care. Did you consider the consequences of what happens to you if you go through with this? Jail or psych ward, but it doesn't matter. I was still going to do it. I want to be with Adam Lanza. She later admits that last night before school, she did cry in the shower, but it was, quote, because she wasn't crying because of herself or her actions, but because of how it was going to affect others, you know. But also at the same time, she was thinking, whatever, what's done is done. That's what she says. Isabel states that she only feels bad for her parents because they've been great and they tried their best.

6:16So back in the back of the police car, Isabel and Lois are ranting about how the police were grilling them. Red-haired Lois Lippert, the 14-year-old, right? She's more so the accomplice. So after police came, before they were taken into the police car, they already went through a round of questioning? yeah in the school oh yeah and then as they're walking out both handcuffed together they're like hey best friend from school to the police car yeah yeah i think the only time they look a little serious is when isabel valdez is being read her charges which is attempted murder when was that in the school hallway and she looks a little serious but not really she just looks like a little there's a whole tape from the school all the way to the police car there's like six seven minutes from inside the school there's a few minutes going to the police car and then there's about 40 but 10 minutes of those are after the so like 36 minutes of them in the because we did a foyer request there's about 36 minutes of them in the car talking yapping and they really don't like to sit in silence so it's like a solid 30 minutes of yapping and if you're watching the video podcast on youtube i'm actually gonna dump the entire body cam footage clip at the end of the episode because i've kind of broken it up into parts but if you want to see the whole thing in chronological order, it's going to be at the very end.

7:30So Isabel and Lois Lippert are sitting in the back and Lois, red hair, 14 year old girl, the accomplice is saying, I told them the important stuff. And then they came back and they were like, I'm getting really pissed off. You're not telling me everything. And I was like, I swear that's all I remember. So I just had to sit there for a few minutes, just trying to remember every fucking thing and every fucking little detail. And I was like, oh, so there are these images of Adam Lanza. Isabel cuts in. dude i forgot what to say halfway through my interview yeah that was me for most of my interview well actually half the interview was just me being silent and not doing anything because i was hoping i could cling on to the um that like you have the right to remain silent but low-key that didn't work that didn't really work is about like i know because it's like they're just gonna use it against me in court like hey why do you have these drives with these little boy Like hard drives of pictures of this little boy And then she goes hey why do you have these drives of this little boy?

8:30Sorry What? Lois is like he's not a little boy He's older than you No he's not Yeah he's older than you It's not some little boy They can't say this little boy This older boy This older boy who's abusing me So now they're giggling And coming up with this idea of trying to say that the victim was abusing them, which he in no world was. And Isabel finds it funny. She's like, yeah, I think in my dreams, he told me he wanted me to kill him. So I think it's only fair. Yeah, oh my God. I almost laughed and almost peed myself. This becomes a reoccurring theme where Lois keeps saying that she almost peed herself.

9:11So she's like, I almost laughed so hard. I almost peed myself. She's not really laughing in these moments. And I will say, if you watch the clip in its entirety that I'm putting at this end of the video, you just see Lois get filled with more and more regret like both of them the energy gets more tense they're still joking around and laughing but I think it's dawning on them very slowly what's happening very slowly yeah very slowly very very slowly yeah because it should have dawned on them before they even got into the car so you said there are two cops in the front yes they can clearly hear it yeah because they later talk to them they interject in one of their conversations yeah i'm we're gonna get there yeah the cops are clearly hearing this i personally think that the cops strategically put them in the back of the police car together so that they could have this conversation because of course they're yeah the more the better yeah and then i think they took a longer route because i don't think that it would take 36 minutes for them to get from the school to the local police department wow yeah that's true so do you think they just didn't know there was a camera recording in the car?

10:15Yeah, I don't think so. And that's why a lot of, this is where it gets really weird. So there are lots of people in the TCC community. And again, this is not me saying like, oh, I'm part of the TCC community, so I know what they're saying. This is me saying like, I was diving into the TCC community to see what it's about. And people were saying, oh, they're not real TCCers because they don't know that there's cameras in the back of the police car. But also real TCCers, from what I can tell, they still like to post edits of Adam Lasagna with eccentric Euro punk music in the background with rainbow edits because it's so quirky.

10:51And their whole thing is like, why does me posting rainbow edits of school shooters? Does that make me dangerous? Um, yeah, Becky, it fucking makes you dangerous. I don't know what else to say. Now, Lois says with a bit of regret in her voice, dude, I should have gotten my diagnosis before this. I've been talking. I've been talking about that being like, yeah, I should go to a psychiatrist or something and actually fucking get diagnosed and shit. I should have gotten gotten it before all this shit happened. And then I would have some sort of thing to clean it up. Isabelle's like, dude, I thought I was going to get sent to the psych ward.

11:24That's what I was so excited about everything. Isabelle explains to Lois that she just regrets telling the officers everything. I shouldn't have told them all this shit. So I was there and then they were like asking me about the swatting incident. So yeah, she was trying to get people swatted. We're gonna get there in a second and what happened and I started crying because I thought You know, they were gonna feel bad for me and send me to the psych ward Because I was like, you know, I thought about hurting somebody. Yeah I thought about hurting the boy and then they saw right through my shit and then they pulled out You know the bag from my backpack.

11:56I had to tell them everything that was inside later. She mentions Dude, I should have told them that I was gonna tell them yesterday. I was gonna say oh yeah i'm doing all this stuff because i want to be a police officer and then she pretends to be the fake imaginary police officer she's saying this too and she's like no sorry she's like i should have told them that i want to be a police officer nope i'm sorry okay like this is how they talk that's the tone in which they talk now there's a lot to complain about in the back of this police car as well lois rants about how cold it was in the room when they were talking to her it was so cold in that room i know dude they had me sitting there and i was so dude they took away my chocolate isabel because remember isabel is the one that primarily wants to kill john isabel had asked lois the little artist to bring chocolate and dr pepper okay lois brings it gives it to her and now isabel is like the chocolate you gave me they took away my chocolate and lois goes no i was able to like eat a part of it it was like a part of the big bar but then that was it lois is so upset and she's like bro I wanted to come back to second period so I could have nibbled on some of it with you that was my main goal you know that feeling when you come home late from work and those puppy dog eyes just pierce right through your soul or when you're packing for a trip and your cat refuses to leave your suitcase yet we've all been there pet parent guilt is real and you know what?

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15:47some netizens have found it ironic that the two are friends because isabel valdez is kind of a bigger girl i guess is how you would describe her and then lois lippert she had a twitter account that heavily promotes is pro anna pro ed engages in quote quote-unquote fatspo fatspo is basically described as quote fat spo is when people with eds use a picture of a person bigger than themselves as inspiration to continue with their eating disorder or not becoming fat like the person in the picture so some netizens found it ironic and they made it a big joke of whether or not lois lippert used her own friend isabel valdez as fat spo essentially everything about this case like makes you want to spiral into a depressive state just every little rabbit hole leads somewhere worse but on Lois Lippert's Twitter account she would post a lot of pro Anna things as well as she would document throwing up in the toilet and then she would stick her hand in the toilet bowl and play with her throw up like it was slime and post videos of it there's also an unverified tumblr account and I cannot tell you if this is real okay but apparently this is Isabel's unverified tumblr account where she posts I love being fat everyone is significant significantly smaller than me and I love small people I love small boys I love the thought of beating them up and breaking their bones and then just watching their bodies bruise.

17:07I want to touch them all over. I want to see them resist. Probably the first time I felt these, dare I say, erotic pleasures was in or around fifth or sixth grade. I remember in sixth grade, I would go up to people and hug them tightly. I loved feeling them push me away and struggle. I loved the way they yelled at me after. We can't be certain that this is Isabelle's account, but it's in tune with the picture of her holding up John, almost like she's about to slam him up against the wall. I don't think that there's any debate that both of these girls are struggling with various mental health issues But I do think a lot of young girls at that age are they don't go and try to resurrect a school shooter These girls they even giggle gaggle about what it must have been like for john Lois is giggling imagine being pulled out of class And yeah, some girl was planning on killing you He's probably gonna be like like he's he's got to be told like they can't and isabel is like yeah I wrote him a note and I was like, I don't feel guilty for my actions, but I feel guilty on how you were going to feel because honestly, I don't fucking care.

18:06Wait, she gave him a letter? She wrote him a note, but I don't think it was. I mean, it was never given to him. Isabel giggles and says, so are we going to become one of those lesbian couples now in jail? Lois looks at her. Yeah, and you could be the butch. And they're giggling. And Isabel is like, yeah, hey, hey, this is my bitch. Stay away. Yeah. They're doing that much in 30 minutes? Yeah. They don't even catch a break and think about what's about to happen? No. And then there's silence, you know, which the lesbian couple love does not last very long because when talking with the officers, Isabel already ratted Lois out.

18:44Okay, the police officer is even writing in his report because usually when you have teenagers and they're best friends and they're trying to commit a crime, I would say that there's maybe, I want to say like three hours in which they might resist ratting each other out. But the police officer writes, Isabel abruptly stated that Lois helped her sharpen the knife. Isabel is explaining to the officers and the assistant principal that they were in the bathroom trying to sharpen the knife. And according to Isabel, they ran the knife back and forth along the metal pipe in the bathroom. And then they were trying to use the knife to cut Isabel's shirt to determine if it was sharp enough to do the crime.

19:20Lois then attempted to cut her stomach in an effort to see if the knife could cut her skin. Isabel stated that Lois told her that she didn't think the knife was going to be able to cut through because it couldn't cut her stomach. But it's not like Isabel really needs to quote-unquote rat out Lois when there's already quite a bit of digital evidence against both of them. Isabel's plan was to either slit John's throat or stab him in the stomach. There was no getaway plan. Then she was going to smoke a cigarette in the bathroom before going to jail and sprinkle flowers on his body or to his funeral.

19:48It's kind of unclear which one. But Isabel, the night before, had been messaging Lois over Discord saying things like, It's going to be over by tomorrow. If you have some gloves, bring them for me. Bring latex ones. I'm bringing a trash bag, wipes, and some other things. I'm going to go away anyway. I'm incriminating shit on my phone. Holy shit. I'm going to make a blood ritual for Adam Lanza LMAO. Everyone who preyed on my downfall is getting their wish. I hugged my parents extra tight today. I feel kind of bad for what's coming. He was at fault because he never got redacted to talk to me. If I had him, I wouldn't have been like this.

20:21Why? Why, John? Why? Why, redacted? Why? I need to break my hard drive later. Do you have any extra white shirts that I could use? And the two of them are also, Isabella and Lois are reportedly married on Facebook. What? Yeah, because you know how you can just like marry someone. But that's not the important part. The important part is their anniversary date is April 22nd, 1992, which is an oddly specific date. So I tried to figure it out. And it's not the date of Sandy Hook or Columbine. It's actually Adam Lance's birthday. But in the back of the police car, Isabella is again ranting about how the police are treating her Like she's this dangerous criminal.

20:55And she says, dude, they had me going to the bathroom and I had this lady standing in the stalls and they had like two other people in the stall. Yeah. I mean, one of them was standing in the stall. The other two were outside waiting. You think I'm going to be able to fucking run away? So Isabel is making a joke at, I guess, her physique. I got too scared to ask them to go to the bathroom. I low key still have to go. So by the way, Lois Lippert kind of talks like this the entire time. And Isabel turns to her. I only went twice because they searched me every time and they made me take off my shoes and my socks off Yeah, i'm glad I didn't ask them.

21:27I don't want to do all that You gonna bend over and cough for me bend over and cough for you. Is that what they do it? Yeah, they look at your asshole and see if anything comes out Isabel complains at how uncomfortable it is to be in the back of the police car and states Dude, I shouldn't have done it in the morning So now she's saying in the back of this recorded police car that she should have killed him in the morning and not waited till after a second period because if she had done it in the morning, she would have been able to kill him. And Lois is like, yeah. Dude, he was right there. I was following behind him.

21:56What is happening? Yeah. Isabel also talks about how when they were interviewing her, she kept laughing even though it's not funny, but quote, they kept on saying 6-7. Oh, I laughed at 6-7, dude, because they were talking about my grades and stuff when it first started. And they were like, yeah, was the 6th or 7th grade? I did the 6-7 behind my back. So she's handcuffed and she said she's doing 6-7. This is like, I don't even know what is happening. Yeah. Lois finds this so funny and she says, stop making me laugh. Lois explains later that she did mention to one of her friends that Isabel might try to do something on Friday, which is vague.

22:33And she reassures Isabel, she's probably thinking that you're going to self-exit. Oh, that's stupid. I'm not self-exiting. Then in a voice that would indicate maybe it's from a meme or something. But she says, killing yourself is for R-words. She says, the R-word. I'm not a stupid R-word that gives up. Please. I am R-worded though. Fuck. Lois tries to comfort her. Not a stupid R-word though. Aw, thanks. One of the most damning pieces of evidence against Isabel is a journal entry that's written in the style of a bad movie plot where the killer fesses up to the murder, hides the note for it to be found by the main character at the end in the bottom of the underwear drawer.

23:10And it reads, it was just like any other normal day. I swear nothing seemed off until I remembered him. Oh, John, how much I loved you. Today was finally the day. You're so worth it. Fuck. We were leaving second period. I grabbed him. I don't know what happened, but I just started talking. Oh, you're so beautiful. The cutest boy around. I loved him dearly. I would ruin my life for him, and that is very much what I was doing. I was able to get my hands on some chloroform, which is not true. It knocked him out cold. It was absolutely perfect. I was already in the bathroom with him. He hadn't woken up yet, so I was just waiting.

23:45He was so small, so precious. I'd been waiting for this for a long time. Slowly, he woke up. I saw those beautiful eyes I much adored. Finally, up close, he was absolutely perfection. Hi, sweetheart, I said without thinking. He looked extremely disturbed. I don't blame him. Who wouldn't, lol. He didn't speak, just looked in terror. I pulled the knife out of my bag and held it to his throat. I saw the fear. I saw his breath hitch. It gave me more adrenaline. And she spells adrenaline A-D-R-E-N-A-L-Y-N. Adrenaline. I pulled my phone out and started recording him. Can you smile for the camera? I held the knife closer to his throat.

24:25I watched as he forced himself to smile just for me. And that is where she ends this weird, bizarre note. It's presented as if she wrote it after the fact in this dramatized narrative form. Right. And the cop found it. It's like fanfic. yeah yeah yeah yeah so the police found it and locked it yeah and they're like okay well you wrote this note you wrote one to your parents detailing your exact motive so and you had a lot of the supplies that you're talking about yeah so what is lois's whole thing like what's her motive does she have a motive does she even care what what is she doing there i think she doesn't care i mean i think she clearly is dealing with lots of mental health issues and i'm not saying that as some sort of excuse because yes so did I at 14 she seems more like the follower so I don't really like to give those labels but it's Isabel has is the one with the plan I think if anything maybe Lois thought it would be cool that she would go down in notoriety or maybe she thought that Isabel would never go through with it but if Lois was the one to be like oh well you can't do that then maybe she wouldn't be seen as cool by her TCC community and again this is not to diminish any of the impact that Lois Lippert had.

25:38It seems as if Isabel is the one more so spearheading this. She's the one with the very strong reasoning of why she felt she wanted to kill John. But I think it's also just as disgusting that Lois is like, oh, I'm doing it for the thrill and for the fun and like, maybe I'll be known in the TCC community. Regardless, despicable. And I think one of the reasons that the investigators moved so fast on this tip was, well, it was their job. They had to, but also they've had problems with Isabel prior to this. In fact, the police were at Isabel's house Thursday night for something else. The night before?

26:11Yeah, the night before. Okay. Okay, so the night before, the police go to Isabel Valdez's house because she'd been trying to do these like swatting calls on people. There was like three different swatting incidents. I think she was trying to swat the school or swat an individual at the school. It's a little bit unclear because they're all minors, but there's swatting incidents. Just know that. She's like trying to get someone swatted. They come, they grab her phone. Now Thursday night they go back to her house And they're like hey we have your phone We could get a warrant and there's like so much paperwork Or you could just sign this consent form Let us go through your phone So they sign the consent form The police leave Thursday night They get a tip in early hours of Friday morning And then it's like the last few sentences Or oh I think their name is Isabel So after the police took her phone She's on Discord messaging On her computer yes On her computer messaging her friend Saying I'm gonna do this now I'm gonna do it.

27:03I'm gonna do it. Yeah, she felt like she was already gonna go away for the swatting incident So she might as well do it now now is the only time that she can do this Lois even mentioned to her that she's anxious planning and maybe she shouldn't go through with it But isabel was like no i'm gonna go through with it and she even tells another friend about it thursday night I think she told maybe it was just one could have been more But that one person does end up sending in that anonymous tip. I mean that tip really saved john's life Yeah, no, John's mom has done an interview where she said the person, I mean, she knows who made the tip and she spoke into that child and she says the child is her hero.

27:41Now, Isabel tells Lois in the car, in the back of the police car, I did write a note to my parents. Did you write one to your parents? Lois is like, no, you should have. They said I'm going to be able to contact my parents when I get there. Me too. I haven't talked to my parents yet. I don't know if my parents even know what's going on. They don't. They haven't contacted mine either. My mom's going to be yelling at me through the phone like, what are you going to do? Why are you trying to kill this fucking kid? Lois is like, I think my mom's going to be okay. I low-key think she's probably going to fuck with it.