#275: Teen Threw Baby in Trash Can After Giving Birth in Hospital Bathroom

27:26The situation unfolding seemed to slow time all the way to like a stop. You know, one of the nurses, HT, was a Marine. He had been practicing for years. Lori had been working for 16 years. Dr. Vasquez was the medical director at another hospital. She had been a physician for 20 years. Nurse Chris had been in the emergency department for five years. Combined, Alexi's healthcare team had over a lifetime of experience in medicine. Yet there was nothing that could prepare the team for what allegedly Alexi Treviso's actions led to that night. Inside the trash bin were a bunch of used paper towels as well as trash bags, new trash bags.

28:09it's almost as if you were to take a new trash bag out of the roll open it up and kind of crinkle it up to make like a trash ball but it's just a new trash bag and stuff it in those were all taken out and at the very bottom was another clear trash liner and the tiny body of a baby boy inside there was an open end of the trash bag and you know when you don't finish your loaf of bread You kind of twist it. And then maybe you don't tie it because you don't like untying it. So you kind of tuck it underneath your bread loaf. And you're like, well, I hope it just keeps it closed. That's how the baby boy was found.

28:53Nurse HT cradled the baby boy out of the trash bag and ripped the bag open to get to the baby as quick as possible to see if there was any indication of life or any chance at resuscitation. Laurie noticed the clear bag was suctioned against the baby boy's face like a vacuum seal over his eyes nose and mouth and his tiny head and he had a full head of hair if you've ever seen a horror movie where someone is smothered by having a plastic bag around their head and it just suctions to them like saran wrap it was kind of like that the baby boy's body was cold to the touch and yeah his skin was blue and fleshy purple and there were smears of blood and mucus all over him and from his tiny body there was the umbilical cord still completely attached to what would have been his belly button the umbilical cord is what connects the mother and the baby and it has to be cut during birth it's not an easy it's not like a string it's pretty thick.

29:58It's pretty tough. I'm sure it's a very interesting consistency. It's not easy to cut through. They're kind of elastic. The end of his umbilical cord had this frayed edge and it was horrific. The edge wasn't clean. Obviously, there were no scissors in the bathroom. Instead, the edge was frayed. Pieces of the umbilical cord fiber had been ripped apart as if someone had held the umbilical cord in both hands twisted and ripped it apart the end was so frayed and so horrifically frayed the only thing that laurie the cna could compare it to was when you were to grab a piece of string cheese and just yank it rip it apart and it's like the the little fibers of the cheese are sticking out in her official police interview she says that's the first thing that she thought of.

30:46And she said, and I quote, this chick really tore this apart. It looked like an animal tore it apart. She continued, you know how you eat string cheese and you kind of twist it? That's how the umbilical cord looked.

31:03No resuscitation efforts could be made by the care team due to the quality of Baby Doe's body. Baby Doe's body was too cold, too unmoving, too asphyxiated, too blue, too purple, too black for any resuscitation efforts. At this point, everyone immediately understood the situation and the ER had become a crime scene and Baby Doe's body would be taken in for autopsy. There was no chance for resuscitation. It was more important for them to keep his little body at rest and preserve any and all evidence. Now, Dr. Vasquez declared time of death for the baby boy in the early hours of the morning. Baby Doe died on January 27th, 2023 at 2.28pm, the very same day he was born.

31:47He spent his estimated 15-20 minutes here on earth, allegedly suffocating to death, allegedly at the hands of his mother, in a hospital bathroom, with doctors, nurses, right outside one door. later his autopsy reports will suggest that he died alone at the bottom of a trash can not once did Alexei mention the baby boy to any of the medical staff that were ready to help her assist she never mentioned the baby boy before or after the bathroom incident not when she denied ever having sex not when Chris asked if she was pregnant not once did she let the medical staff in on her secret that she had given birth to a full-term baby just minutes before and oh the The baby's in the bathroom.

32:34Rather, Alexei kept her mouth shut and she continued to receive her own care by Dr. Vasquez for her back. But before I get ahead of myself, let's talk about what happened after Alexei came out of the restroom and what was happening in her room while the discovery of baby Doe was being made. And what happened when the police arrived and when they officially tell Rosa and Alexei the news about the discovery because Alexei says some pretty damning things. When Dr. Vasquez escorts Alexi back to the bathroom, back to the treatment room from the bathroom, so this is like right after birth, Nurse Elizabeth was now on Alexi's healthcare team as well.

33:11She had no prior contact with Alexi before she went into the bathroom. She just got assigned this case. Now, Nurse Elizabeth explains that when Dr. Vasquez and Alexi came back, Alexi was actively bleeding. So again, no one has found the baby. They just gently break the news to Alexi and Rosa. It seems that you've suffered a miscarriage. And because Alexi is actively bleeding, Dr. Vasquez asked if she could perform a vaginal exam to further evaluate the condition. Now, the nurse Elizabeth, she's busying herself with cleaning Alexi up and prepping her for the exam. And Rosa, the mom, she's stepping in and having a back and forth about the news.

33:51She's like, why don't you tell me? Scolding her daughter, freaking out about why don't you tell me you were pregnant? and as Dr. Vasquez proceeds with the exam, Rosa is just visibly upset. And this is wild, but still, Alexi continued to deny that she ever had sex. She still insisted after this, quote, miscarriage that she was a virgin. So all the while this is happening, Dr. Vasquez and Nurse Elizabeth noticed that Alexi was continuing to bleed extensively to the point where blood was now flowing down her inner legs as well as there was a small puddle next to the exam table that she was on. Wow.

34:29So Dr. Vasquez's first observation when starting the vaginal exam was that Alexi's cervix was wide open and blood was flowing out. So this is what you mean when you give birth. They look at how dilated you are. Pretty dilated. Dr. Vasquez and Nurse Elizabeth, they worked to suction the blood the best that they could until there was a knock on the door. and charge nurse HT is like, Dr. Vasquez, you gotta come outside. Now, nurse Elizabeth stayed in Alexi's room. She had no idea that there was a baby boy outside in the hallway. She gets Alexi into a hospital gown and is trying to clean up the blood as best as she can.

35:09And then she left to take care of her other patients. She would periodically check on Alexi to make sure she was okay, but her condition was not life-threatening, or at least everyone thought so at this point. A little bit later, when Elizabeth, the nurse, was grabbing some blankets, Dr. Vasquez and Alexi's other nurses, they pull her aside and notify her about the discovery of baby Doe. And she was instructed not to say a word until the police came. And her whole job was to continue providing care as needed, pretending like nothing happened. Nobody wanted to let Alexi know that they knew what she had done in that bathroom, at least not till the police came.

35:47So after nurse HT found the baby boy and Dr. Vasquez called the time of death, HT basically shut down the hospital. They went into lockdown. No one's going to touch or go near the body of baby Doe or that bathroom. They were going to wait until the police came. Dr. Vasquez and the team, they made this game plan. Okay, call the police, wait for them to get here. No one tells them. Okay, this is like information, lockdown, strict protocol. They would continue providing care for Alexei regardless of the criminal investigation they believed was about to be launched. So the police get there and Nurse HT fills them on all the events.

36:24And this was recorded on the police body cam cameras. And it's part of the original video that went viral. When Nurse HT is speaking with the cops, we hear very haunting dialogue. He says she went to the bathroom. She was in there for quite a while. We kept knocking on the door. Finally, we got her to open the door and there was blood everywhere. She'd put the baby in the trash can and then she put another trash bag over on top of it so when they looked in there it looked like there was no trash in there but underneath it it was just a clean bag the officer responds wow okay the baby is dead we have him in trauma too but she killed the kid we haven't what we have him inside trauma too but she killed the kid how old was the baby i don't know he's full term she wouldn't tell us she's pregnant.

37:15She's been lying the whole time. Now, Dr. Vasquez walks up to the officers and asks if they can accompany her while she notifies Alexi and Rosa of the discovery of the baby. She wanted to make sure that all the legal bases were covered and that there were witnesses, including the body cam footage. Now, this part of the case went absolutely viral due to the body cam footage. And I can see why. It's confusing. It's weird. It's wild. There's even more questions like but the reactions of both mother and I guess mother so both mom and daughter Rosa and Alexi they're strange it's atypical so inside the treatment room we have Alexi on the hospital bed and her mom Rosa is standing up and in walks Dr.

37:56Vasquez nurse HT and one of the police Dr. Vasquez breaks the news I'm sorry we've discovered a dead baby in the bathroom Rosa, Alexi's mother, gasps, oh my gosh. Alexi tries to explain. She says, I'm sorry, he came out of me and I didn't know what to do. Now, this part has been dissected over and over again. Like, what would you imagine Rosa's reaction to be? Alexi's mom's reaction to this. Many netizens did not like the way that she responded. She said, Alexi, I told you about this. I just asked you, baby, to tell me the truth.

38:43that sounds like you can't lie about they didn't do their homework yeah so rosa stands up paces for a short moment and um she's pressing her hands on her forehead and sternly asks alexi what did you do to it the doctor immediately says okay stop right there stop number one priority guys. Number one priority is that she just had a baby and I don't know if she still has the placenta inside of her and she's bleeding significantly. So Alexi tries to explain to Dr. Vasquez, I'm scared. It wasn't crying or anything. So two things. Netizens did not like how Rosa scolded her daughter for something like this.

39:22Like the reaction was strange. It almost felt like she already knew or kind of had her suspicions that something like this was going happen. It's also on par with what you said, a mother scolding someone for not doing their homework. Now, secondly, Alexi will often refer to the child, her child, as it. Now, her doctor, Dr. Vasquez, still needs to prioritize her physical well-being. She recommends transferring her to a different hospital called Lovelace, where they specialize in obstetrics. And because Alexi just gave birth in secret, they have no idea if the placenta was delivered. If there is placenta tissue left in the uterus, the condition can be life-threatening for the mom.

40:02Now, in addition, Alexei is also heavily bleeding. So they're very concerned about, you know, anything that's going to happen to her. Dr. Vasquez says, I'm very sorry about this, but in terms of delivering a baby, it looked like you tried to hide it. We do need to have the police involved. Alexei takes this in, looks at her mom and says, nothing. It wasn't crying. It came out and nothing. Dr. Vasquez responds for Rosa, but the baby is going to be taken in for autopsy and there will be an investigation and everything. I'm really sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. We need to do this correctly and I want to be transparent with you and what our steps are going to be.

40:44Now, Dr. Vasquez proceeds to arrange the transfer. She leaves the room, leaving Alexi Rosa, charge nurse HT, and the officer remaining. Now, nurse HT is about to leave, but before he does, he asks them, do you guys have any questions for me? And Rosa says, how big was the baby? Full term. Rosa's eyes widen and her hands go up to her face in shock. And this conversation continues to really freak out netizens. Rosa gasps, looks at her daughter and says, what? Nine months? Lexi, have you watched the news of the girls, what they do to their babies, and they go to jail? What does that mean? Side note, that comment has been picked apart by netizens, and it seems as if the mother is potentially alluding to another famous New Mexico case.

41:36About exactly a year ago, January of 2022, there was a young woman named Lexis Avila who was found guilty for throwing her baby into a dumpster. The baby survived. to what happened to her uh jail okay to which alexi responds it wasn't crying so rosa turns around running her fingers through her hair moving to the corner of the room sobbing and nurse ht leaves the room for now so now it's just mom and daughter and the police officer throughout the entire body cam footage although blurry alexi is not wiping her eyes she's not visibly tearing up. She's just relatively unmoving. She stays in the bed and she looks scared, but she doesn't seem to be crying or emotional.

42:21Her mom asks her, where did you put the baby at? Tell me the truth. Her mom asks her again, where? And then the audio cuts out. So you can see the both of them say something, but nothing is heard. Rosa clarifies, it came out in the toilet? Alexei says yes he wasn't crying and you put it in the bag yes what bag in the trash bag there is a point in the conversation where redditors have a lot of problems with how the mother speaks to the daughter so Alexei is telling her mom all of this where she put the baby and she's also saying like I'm scared I'm scared I'm scared right and the mom says why didn't you tell us and then immediately she kind of flips on her daughter and says do you want to get in trouble which is strange because you're already in a world of trouble she says that is so odd yeah she continues do you want to get in trouble for this because you can get in trouble for this now one netizen pointed out as soon as the mother said do you want to get in trouble for this i immediately knew who the real problem was in this family unit the girl is already in trouble that statement makes little to no sense unless the mother is still desperately trying to take control and trying to threaten her child.

43:33I will say the family dynamic is interesting and surely it plays a big part in today's case, but we're going to dive into it later. Eventually, Rosa gets pulled out of the treatment room and is told to stay in the waiting room till the detectives arrive. So as of right now, it's just been cops, not part of the investigation division. And because Alexi is legally an adult, they want to keep her isolated from any witnesses or potential co-conspirators, which is a theory that's going to come up later. So the cops tell Alexi that she's currently being detained in police custody and that a cop is going to be with her at all times at the hospital.

44:07When Alexi is alone with the nurse, she is asked by the nurse. Right now, it is very, very important that you are very honest and very truthful with us. Did your baby take at least one breath when it first happened or was your baby not breathing? Alexi said, I've been having this bad abdominal pain. And so we came to the ER. when they brought me back in here to this room I felt like I needed to poop and I asked if I could go to the bathroom so when they said yeah that I could go to the bathroom I sat on the toilet and it all just fell out but when I had it in my arms it wasn't breathing he wasn't moving it wasn't breathing so I just placed it in there okay and um was it a steady boyfriend the the father yes Do you want me to include him as the father?

44:55For what? The birth and the death certificate? Oh, no. I don't want to put him down. So while Alexi is in the treatment room receiving postpartum care, her mom Rosa calls her husband and Alexi's boyfriend's family and breaks the news. They're all going to join Rosa in the waiting room. So to give a clear picture, Rosa calls her husband, aka Alexi's stepdad, so not her biological father. Are these recorded? Yeah, on body cam. And then Alexi's boyfriend and his mom will be in the waiting room as well. Meanwhile, Alexi is still waiting to be transferred. And side note, this is when we meet the ultrasound tech Lorraine.

45:37And Alexi's questions and behaviors with Lorraine become a bit suspicious. Now, ultrasound tech Lorraine and CNA Lori are two different people. Lorraine the ultrasound tech was on call for ultrasounds And she arrived at the emergency room in the midst of this chaos She wasn't there at the hospital So she runs in and she's had like 20 years of ultrasound tech practice underneath her belt And she just noticed a lot of police presence the minute she got there So she's here to help Alexi Yeah, see what's going on, you know, is the placenta still in there So before entering Alexi's room for the ultrasound She was filled in briefly on what's going on and Lorraine said that the whole procedure was incredibly uncomfortable.

46:17There was an officer already in Alexi's room and Lorraine asked him to step out, which he did. Lorraine kept her head down as she prepped Alexi and she had no intention of conversing with Alexi and she hoped that maybe she would get the message. But she starts talking. Alexi told Lorraine, I don't know what's going on. I didn't know I was pregnant. I'm a cheerleader. I started gaining weight. My clothes were tight. I was taking birth control pills and none of this makes sense. Lorraine stayed quiet and could only gently respond. I don't know what to tell you. Lorraine finished up the ultrasound and noted that there was a significant amount of bleeding and tissue, but that was pretty normal for regular typical deliveries.

47:02And Lorraine updated Dr. Vasquez after leaving the patient's room. She would also go to the cops and note that Alexi's tone was very panicked, but to her it didn't seem like a person that truly had no idea what was going on Lorraine said that she had been in the field for 20 years and she had seen some weird people she had talked to some off people but she testified that Alexi's case did not seem like that you know it just it almost sounded like the way she's saying it was she's trying to get someone to believe her she's trying to get someone on her side now remember nurse Elizabeth she's still taking care of Alexi.

47:42She's providing postpartum care after all of this. And she is one of the staff that's having direct contact with Alexi after the police get involved. She said that Alexi kept talking to her as well. And Elizabeth reported that Alexi did not say anything about what happened in the bathroom, but she was just worried that she was going to get in trouble. And she even asked what's going to happen. I don't know, Alexi, would there be any bad outcomes if I had stopped taking one medication and started another it depends on the medications what would happen if i stopped taking birth control and started taking weight loss pills chills ran up elizabeth's back what does that mean she's okay so people interpret it two different ways right oh well first of all elizabeth just said i'm not a pharmaceutical like major so i don't know what to tell you and she left the room a lot of netizens speculate that 19 year old alexi was probably not asking this question out of genuine curiosity or concern.

48:39It's not like, oh my god, I'm so dumb and young and I made a grave error in judgment. It kind of feels like, again, the same thing with Lorraine. She's trying to trap someone into believing her as if she truly is this confused girl that made an honest mistake. Now, the second speculation is that many people pointed out Alexi asking if it's weird for her to take weight loss pills or if something happened, maybe it's more of like a hey i started taking weight loss pills because i was pregnant and i didn't want anyone to know like it's such a random thing to bring up some people speculate that maybe she saw online or something that maybe weight loss pills could result in a non-viable pregnancy or a or like an at-home termination so it just seems again i think the whole purpose of her saying this to a nurse is not really for help or for answers, but to get someone to kind of believe her, to be on her side.

49:37Now, at this point, even with all of this going on, Alexi has still not been arrested. An autopsy would be performed in order for that arrest warrant to be served. The consequences of disposing of a body after stillbirth are drastically different from a newborn being alive and healthy, and then due to a sequence of someone's actions, that baby ended up dead. So while Alexi is waiting to be transferred, baby Doe is sent for autopsy. Alexi's mom, Rosa, is in the waiting room with her husband, Alexi's stepdad, Alexi's boyfriend, and Alexi's boyfriend's mom. And all of this is in the body cam footage.

50:12So when the officer arrives, Rosa stands up while the other three people remain in their seats. She immediately asks about Alexi and where she's going, and the officer informs her for the next steps and tells Rosa that the baby will be going into autopsy. Rosa just completely disregards the baby. Rosa's like, whatever, I don't care. And immediately asks about Alexi. Is she gonna like, get released? Like when? How? Like, are y 'all gonna take her into custody or anything like that? Note that even though the cop he had stated, you know, the baby boy is going to be sent, he's going to be sent to be autopsied.

50:46He mentioned the baby's pronouns, the gender. And Rosa is not, Rosa doesn't care. Rosa's only thinking about Alexi, not her grandchild. She didn't even register once that this was a grand, like a baby boy that she just had. As the footage continues, Alexi's stepdad, the husband to Rosa, is the only one that seems to be very upset with the situation. He's crying. He remains seated and in distress. He's asking questions about the baby. Now, across from the stepdad are Alexi's boyfriend and his mom, who remain seated. And they really only talk when they're spoken to by the cop. So before we get into the footage, let's go over quickly the relationship between Alexi and the guy sitting in the waiting room with his mom.

51:28This is the boyfriend. This is the supposed father of baby Doe. His name is Devin Fierro. Alexi and Devin had been dating for close to two years at this point. Devin was born to his mother, Melanie, who was also in the waiting room with him. And there's not too much information about the Fierro family as Alexi is the accused. There's just not too much about him. Netizens remain divided on whether or not they believe he knew about the pregnancy or not. We don't officially know. Devin himself has not made a public statement, and I'm sure we are not going to hear anything official or any valid reports until the trial in this fall.

52:06He also attended the same high school as Alexei. They were both seniors ready to graduate. And Devin was a bit younger, so he's 18 and Alexei is 19 years old. Now, because of the viral nature of this case, netizens have tried digging for some gold. Most of the speculations flying around are completely unverifiable, you know. But all we have right now is that he kept a low profile. They seem to be really in love, like a high school love. There have been falsified Instagram accounts that have been popping up pretending to be him. But so far, there's not much. Now, back to the investigation. Some netizens applaud the cops carefully chosen words following all of this.

52:46The officer says to Rosa. so you would be the grandmother. Rosa corrects him, shaking her head and says, no, I'm mom, I'm her mom. The officer tells her, so you would be the dead son's grandmother. Rosa responds, yes. And then immediately her hand shoots up and she's pointing a finger at the boyfriend's mom and goes, so is she. That's her boyfriend. The clip is super eerie. the way that Rosa immediately and literally and figuratively and physically points her finger at the boyfriend's mom to be like oh you're accusing me of being a grandma well wait a minute she is too the cop gets the boyfriend's info and inquires about Alexi's pain when it all started Rosa goes on to say that Alexi's father had beaten her when she was pregnant which resulted in Alexi having back and hip issues and she regularly saw a chiropractor in an and she's almost kind of using this as a way to explain the back pain and how it all had a history some conversation passes and the cop asks the boyfriend i'm not trying to be rude but you would be the baby's father correct he nods and this is where something so strange happens so up until this point we just thought that rosa is this mom who is such a tiger mom she's so strict she doesn't want her kids having sex right this guy just admitted that he had sex with alexi in front of her so you i would imagine of course i mean it already clicked in her head she already knows logically but i would imagine emotionally it's more she's upset she maybe has a grimace on her face she's looking away she's pissed she looks like she wants to punch him right you would imagine that but instead rosa and the boyfriend's mother look at each other, crack a smile, and kind of laugh.

54:37What? And they say, we get it. What? Yeah. Like, we get it. Like, ugh, get a room. We get it. The cop is at a loss for words. Once the mothers go back to being serious, he proceeds to explain why it's important that he asks questions like that. so throughout the body cam footage Alexei's stepdad is the only one that asks about the baby Rosa only ever asks about Alexei and the boyfriend and his mom remain silent with just short two-word answers not once did they ask about the baby their grandchild not once did the father ask if he had a son or a daughter not once did the boyfriend's mother the grandmother to this baby ask about her grandchild I mean everyone in this room who was biologically related to baby doe did not even acknowledge him.

55:31Alexi stepped out the only person in that room whose genetics were not a part of baby doe was the only one showing emotion and asked a question about the boy and of course genetics do not decide family of course not but it's ironic how everyone else whose literal dna made up this dead baby boy did not ask a single question. This is backed up by a charge nurse HT's police interview as well he says not one person asked me about the baby. If it was alive, if it was dead, a boy or a girl, not one. I've never seen, I mean, I've delivered multiple babies and seen multiple miscarriages and I've never seen anything like that.

56:07There was no emotion except for herself. She was in crying tears. He continues, I'm just going to tell you this. I've never seen a reaction like that girl. There was zero emotion. I have seen women who are only pregnant for six weeks and they are a mess. To do what she did with no emotion, I've never seen anything like it. The only thing that upsets me the most is she gave me no chance to save that baby. And that's not what I do. My job is to save lives and I had no chance. We were at a facility where you can drop off the baby and there are no questions asked. HT finishes and gets visibly emotional as his voice shakes and gets caught in his throat.

56:52more emotion than Alexi showed over all of the body camera footage that has been released postpartum care nurse Elizabeth also testified to the fact that Alexi was only asking questions about herself and not once did she ask about her son Alexi is airlifted from this hospital to Lovelace and the autopsy results would take longer than expected for baby doe but the medical examiner determined that the baby boy had air in his lungs when he died the ME ruled baby doe's death a homicide and stated that he had passed from asphyxiation and the cause of death was quote entrapment the report confirms that he died after birth according to the official affidavit entrapment is defined as when an individual is in an airtight or relatively airtight container or in this case a tied plastic trash bag and consumes all of the available oxygen until there is no longer enough oxygen to sustain life

57:51to further explain this the autopsy and the post-mortem showed the infant male had no anatomic abnormalities and or no physical injuries his lungs were aerated and he had air in his stomach so she had delivered allegedly a healthy baby boy the baby was 38 weeks old which is nine and a half months. This is very important. The age of viability in which a preemie can live outside the womb and successfully develop is between 22 to 26 weeks with medical care, meaning baby Doe would have survived even if he was born four months earlier. He was fully developed, yet he ended up in the bottom of a trash can and was suffocated to death within minutes of his first breaths.

58:38The air in his lungs and stomach were significant findings as they proved that baby Doe was capable of life outside the uterus and had taken his first breaths after birth. His last breath shortly after. So this was still not enough to arrest Alexi. It would take months before she's arrested. Now, side note, she was physically fine or at least fine enough to be discharged from the hospital. And what's interesting is that she went immediately right back to school. She continued to date her boyfriend, Devin Fierro, and the couple actually attended their senior prom together April of 2023. no like nothing happened this is a picture of them at prom and i want to say that netizens have been speculating the necklace that she's wearing um a lot of people who have grieved the loss of loved ones say that that necklace reminds them very much of um a necklace where you store ashes or pieces of ashes from a loved one people think it could potentially contain the ashes of baby doe now this obviously isn't and cannot be confirmed but keep this in mind because something more wild comes up later.

59:41So anyway, Alexi is allowed back into the school while the investigation continues and the police do some things that have been debated by netizens. A police officer tries to approach Alexi while she's walking out of her high school alone, which I think the initial thing was people were upset. You know, it sounds scummy. It sounds like a police is trying to entrap her, right? But it's perfectly legal. She's 19 years old, she's an adult, and she has been an adult for over a year. Detectives do not need a guardian present to question her. They most likely approached her while she was coming out of high school to try and talk to her without her mother present, which again is absolutely legal because she's an adult.

1:00:20There are speculations that if Rosa hadn't been in that treatment room, maybe Alexi would have told medical staff what was going on. But Alexi does not want to talk to the investigators. thankfully they wouldn't need her testimony to arrest her after four long months of investigation may 10th of 2023 Alexi Treviso was arrested now the body cam footage was released and that is when it went viral after the arrest the arrest itself was relatively unremarkable like nothing too crazy or unexpected happens. But once again, Alexi's mom, Rosa, is incredibly protective and the least combative at best to the arresting officers.

1:01:03Her reaction does remain interesting. Rosa, the mom, tells the police, I'll bring her out. Just tell me what's going on. As if this is like coming out of nowhere. You know, a detective explains the warrant and Alexi's mother asks, for what? Which is a very interesting question. Okay. and a back and forth ensues before the officers disclose the reason again i cannot stress enough and apparently the cops cannot stress enough either but alexia is over 18 meaning rosa has no legal right to know what the arrest warrant states that's like if you if a random adult were to get arrested and i'm like hey officer you should tell me what the arrest is for it's like you don't have the i don't have to tell you now the cops remind this remind rosa of this but she still demands to know what the warrant is for.

1:01:51She does have a bit of an argument stating that she deserves to know what the warrant is for because this is her home. The police inform her that they have an arrest warrant for Alexi and not a warrant to search for her house. Like, through her house. I don't doubt that this is an incredibly terrifying situation and maybe Rosa as a mother wants to protect her child regardless of age, but many take this as Rosa having a hard time accepting she is not the one in control. Alexi is an adult. She's a full legal person. and so there's this whole back and forth rosa standing and blocking the doorway with her body and a probably fed up deputy states homicide an open count of homicide and tampering with evidence that's what she's getting arrested for and alexi's mom says in disbelief tampering with evidence at the hospital again i don't really know what the shocker attitude is about because her she always give the most bizarre reaction to bizarre yeah it's like i yeah i don't so confused what what yeah what it's really yeah i mean her it's off-putting for sure even when you watch it it's just kind of like that makes me feel weird i mean i don't want to make speculations because i think that we all deal with shocking news differently but it is it's not normal i would say it's interesting.

1:03:15Now, regardless, Rosa is on the phone with someone and demands to see the warrant physically. Now, again, they're like, OK, well, we can arrest Alexi and get her permission to visibly show you the warrant. So we got to go get her. Finally, Rosa lets them in and Alexi is arrested. She does not cry. She does appear nervous, of course, but she's still kind of relatively emotionless for just the sheer gravity of her crimes or what she's accused of. Now, Now, something does catch the eye of netizens and Internet sleuths. In the end of the video, the officer with the body camera is kind of escorting Alexi out of the house to make sure that she's not grabbing any weapons and just grabbing sanitary products.

1:03:57So he's in the house. Netizens go frame by frame in the short portion of the video that shows inside of their family home. And boom, there it is. People are like, there is no way. Is that really? No freaking way. No, no, absolutely not. But there's no way she would do that in a million years. You can see in the living room, there is a frame in the background of the body cam footage. And if you're listening to the audio version, I'm going to describe it. There is a thick black frame sitting on top of the living room main shelf of the entertainment console. And it kind of looks like a scrapbook page with a glass layer on top.

1:04:35It's vertical. From top to bottom is the name A-L-E-X. alex in big white letters next to the name are a small pair of angel wings and what looks to be a blanket tacked onto the blanket is a small photograph that looks like it'd be the size of like a sonogram however only the edges are black and the inside and the majority of the photograph is tan why is that important guess what else was tan the hospital trash can was tan body cameras are notoriously blurry and pixelated so the image is like a smudge however some netizens believe that it is a photo of baby doe in the trash can and it is now allegedly being used as some sort of familial memorial picture what other netizens argue that this picture is actually a post-autopsy picture or a post-afterlife picture i don't think we'll know for sure i don't think this will ever be covered during the trial probably not but evidently this photo has been leaked but it has been wiped from the internet but if this is what netizens believe it to be this frame photo memory box i mean that's terrifying not only is she creating practically a false memory box with what appears to be a fake baby blanket that she literally never had used for she never used one and she put angel wings and she named her dead son her dead baby boy that she allegedly threw in the damn trash after herself so she is arrested and after about a week she is released on bail march 16th 2023 i'm so fed up with this case i'm so fed up with this case can you tell march 16th 2023 alexia is released and the judge judge finger ruled that she would be able to finish school without being on house arrest she's given a curfew though 7 a.m to 7 p.m., which really is nothing.

1:06:31She's also required to attend counseling and is permitted to travel to the state of Texas to see family. Wow. It's like a luxurious release. Oh, considering that she's an adult when she did this. She's not even a minor when she allegedly did this. Sorry, allegedly. But something to remember, in New Mexico, a first-degree murder charge could result in a life sentence. Child abuse could result up to 18 years. so as of now her pretrial hearing is september 11th 2023 and the current court date is scheduled for october 2nd 2023 and the outrage to her bond has been swift i mean before we dive into what i'm about to talk about i think i've made it relatively clear where i stand in terms of women having autonomy over their own bodies but the following discourse is even more specific even more particular even more sensitive so that being said again these are not personal opinions or part of a political agenda.

1:07:26These are just the facts of the case. So regardless of how you feel on the topic or where you fall on the spectrum, it is a fact that the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, a landmark case regarding abortion. That's not what we're talking about, okay? We already know how most of us feel on this. This overturning led to other states determining their own specifications regarding abortion. So we spend half of our time in Georgia as of right now, which is where all my family is. And Georgia actually has one of the most restrictive laws in the nation regarding abortion. Now, how is that connected to today's case?

1:08:01Because in New Mexico, abortion has remained legal in the state and it remains legal up until the moment of birth. Well, before birth. Yeah, till the moment before birth. Currently, there are no laws limiting the availability of abortion services regardless of the gestation or how far along the mom is. Moreover, New Mexico does not require parental consent or notification for minors seeking abortion services. If there's any state to be in a position like Alexi, because she's not even a minor, right? It would have been New Mexico. So let me explain. Some netizens remain baffled as to why Alexi did not get an abortion, considering New Mexico's abortion laws are some of the least restrictive, and they make it far more accessible than the majority of the United States states.

1:08:47Not only was she an adult she would not have to tell her mother, But even if she were a minor, she would still not have to get her mom involved because she lives in New Mexico. And you don't have to agree or support late term abortion to understand this argument. You could think, well, I'll never get one and X, Y, Z. But we're talking about the decisions that Alexi made. Clearly, Alexi does not care about infant life. I don't think she cares about a fetus life, right? I mean, she threw her baby in the trash can. So some people argued maybe she's against abortion. but I just think that's goofy.

1:09:21That is literally goofy. Like you're, what? Okay, but let's, I guess, entertain this beyond goofy idea. Let's say she doesn't believe in termination of her pregnancy, so caring to term was the only option. Did she have to put him in the trash can where he would suffocate and die, allegedly? Many netizens, many, many netizens believe that she had other opportunities. Why? Because New Mexico offers the Safe Haven for Infants Act, which means individuals can bring their baby up to 90 days old to be dropped off at any safe haven location in the state. No questions asked. No criminal investigation.

1:10:00It is not child neglect. It is not child abandonment. In New Mexico, you may go to a hospital, law enforcement agency, or fire station, and you will not be chased down. You will not be asked, is this your baby? You will not be saying, oh, are you forgetting your baby? Let me repeat the first one for you really quick. A hospital. Alexi gave birth to her baby boy in a hospital, yet she still chose to throw him in the trash. Alexi gave birth to her baby boy in a hospital as a legal adult, yet she still chose to throw him in the trash. Alexi gave birth to a baby boy in a hospital as a legal adult with numerous chances to speak up and request that her mother, if Rosa was the reason that she was too scared to tell anyone she was pregnant, she could have request her mom leave her treatment room because she was 19.

1:10:52But let's argue that her mom is so controlling and so terrifying that she couldn't ask for her mom to be removed from the treatment room. She could have easily, on her way to the bathroom, alerted a nurse and ran into a separate treatment room instead, closed the door, demanded that they honor HIPAA and not tell her mom what was happening. Even if Alexi was under Rosa's health care insurance, which I don't know, thinking about health insurance coverage in this type of situation would be kind of insane. But even if that was her concern, just speculating here, if that was her concern, because Alexi is a legal adult, she has her own rights to medical privacy that would be upheld.

1:11:28So even though she's under her mom's health insurance, she would, her mom wouldn't need to know. Now, some netizens say, let's only blame Alexi to a degree because it seems like her mom Rosa was the one at fault. she was the one that played a huge part in why Alexi probably continued to lie she's most likely controlling aggressive not giving Alexi the chance to tell the truth now I think we'll never fully know what was going on in Rosa's head and how much she knew and how much she didn't know about her daughter but we can make an educated guess and for legal a guess is not a fact maybe because Alexi was not physically appearing pregnant and ready to pop testimony from the hospital staff as well.

1:12:08They did not. She did not look full term. Maybe Rosa did not know that her daughter was full term and she may have been suspicious of a pregnancy, but her later actions, at least to me, indicate that Rosa probably thought the pregnancy was either super early on or non-viable, like an ectopic pregnancy. I don't think that she knew the extent or seriousness of the pregnancy, though. I think the only one who truly knew the extent was probably Alexi. maybe her boyfriend i mean again like i said it's clear that parenting is a huge factor in this case for both alexi and rosa it seems but since alexi may have not had the best relationship with her mom she might have felt like she couldn't trust her some people say that alexi seems very sheltered just by looking at the body cam footage it seems like she doesn't understand that she could go to jail for that however Alexi is again 19 she could have pulled a staff aside even if her mom is gonna find out or not gonna find out I mean I remember being 19 I did some really dumb stuff at 19 but I did not do that Chris Lori Dr.

1:13:18Vasquez all people that were capable of saving a baby's life they're all knocked on the door and Alexi could have said I'm 19 don't tell my mom this is confidential please can one of you come in now there are people who are calling Alexi the embodiment of the devil the most evil mother to exist and I don't know if I can have a strong personal opinion on Alexi I do think that we all have the ability to think critically like look most of us have been 19 and maybe some of us had pregnancy scares at that age and I will say everyone is freaking terrified of their parents reaction. Even in my 20s, I think I'd be terrified.

1:13:55I'd be like, mom, oh my god, this is so scary, right? You're scared of what the future is going to be, what's going to happen, especially more so when you're a teenager. But I just, I don't think that this is something that would have ever crossed my or any of you guys' minds when you're 19. Now, I will say there is a big piece of the puzzle that I am missing, which is I've never been a mother, I've never given birth. I am unfamiliar with the emotions that can be brought up in these situations and what kind of chemical imbalances I would have. So I'm going to share with you what I've seen some moms say on the internet about this.

1:14:27One mom netizen commented, I was 19 when I found out I was pregnant. I didn't find out until I was already six months pregnant. I was on birth control. I showed no signs of pregnancy and I was actually losing weight during the time. Needless to say, it was not planned. I was nervous to tell my mom, but I did. I had two choices. I keep my baby or I give it up for adoption. I made the choice to keep my baby. She will be 16 this year. She's a straight A student and she is the best daughter I could ask for. There are no excuses for what this girl did. None. She had options. But another mom and some other netizens feel differently.

1:15:04They state that postpartum could have been a huge factor in this case. One commenter states, I feel so bad for this girl. So much happens to your body when you're pregnant. I mean, this kind of visceral reaction is not abnormal postpartum. The huge influx of hormones affected every woman differently and she was clearly in a state of panic, likely induced by the physical trauma that she just went through. The people gutting her as a murderer are so eager to pick up a pitchfork and burn women alive without understanding a goddamn thing about actually being a woman. I would like to know your thoughts if you guys have given birth.

1:15:36I want to say it's a bit different, this situation in postpartum. While I do think that postpartum is incredibly serious and it's not talked about enough, I don't know. Maybe I'm not in the place to say because I've never had postpartum myself, but I've seen the people closest to me go through postpartum and maybe we were all just lucky and it wasn't that bad. But yeah, I don't know if this would be the best connection to postpartum advocacy. see so um another mom commented postpartum depression anxiety and even psychosis are actually quite common side effects of pregnancy and labor yet society always views women with problems as monsters i can't even imagine the terror this girl must have felt again i i feel like it's hard for me to say because i've never given birth i've never had these experiences or these hormonal imbalances but so many people in my life have given birth and many of them have struggled with postpartum depression and this just seems really intense.

1:16:40I don't know. What are your thoughts? Now just a couple of final loose strings before we wait for further updates. This case has blown up and it's reached pretty much like all the corners of the internet and there have been some viral pictures associated with this case that have been released by unverified accounts and this is not the first time that we've seen this in true crime cases it happens a lot i don't know if these are real or if these have been edited but pictures have been going around that show alexi in her cheer team costume and she looks visibly very pregnant so people are using this as like oh everyone knew she was pregnant come on now so i i don't know um i but looking at the picture she definitely looks pregnant we just don't know if these were photoshopped or not so just like that Alexi has been released.

1:17:29She has lawyered up and her defense attorney, Gary Mitchell, states that there is a lot more to the case than we all think. He states that this is more than a regular, quote, abandoned a newborn and child abuse case. Defense attorney, Gary Mitchell, alludes that the hospital actually committed malpractice. He states that not a single one of them told her that she was pregnant. She basically saying she had no idea she was pregnant. They also did not tell her that they needed to examine her. The attorney confirms that Alexi went to the hospital with back pain, and he states that she had severe abdominal pain and indicated that she was on a scale of 1 through 10, a 10.

1:18:03Another part of his defense focuses on the medication given to Alexi. According to the attorney, Alexi was on a ton of medication. Zofran, sodium chloride, those are the ones that are not that serious, but she was on morphine. The attorney alleged that these are some pretty heavy medications to put on a pregnant person. He claims that the hospital staff knew that she was pregnant, but didn't want to say anything until she went into the bathroom. He claims that they should have monitored her the entire time. He even states to the press, if a pregnant woman needs to go to the restroom, they should have thought that she might be going into labor.

1:18:36He also indicates that he does not believe the autopsy results are true and he wants to have another expert take a look at it. He also alleges that the hospital illegally released some of Alexi's medical history. Yeah. So, Gary is convinced that Alexi is totally innocent, but he says that whatever the staff did is malpractice. He states, I will not hold back when it comes to representing this young girl. She's a good person, someone you can be proud of. And because of our attitude about women's reproductive care and the way we treat women in this country, it's now being exposed to a first-degree murder charge.

1:19:09He went on to explain that Alexi has a 3.8 GPA and already committed to the New Mexico State University. He states that Alexi is an honor student that's on the choir team as well as the cheer team and has never had a single infraction in school, nor has she had any traffic violations. And another little loose string before we wrap this up regarding Rosa. Take this with a pinch of salt because, you know, but allegedly Rosa the mom was arrested in 2004 for a DWI in Texas. Allegedly. She is also a registered felon for a faulty check and misdemeanor in Gaines, Texas from July 2004. She has a state felony because there were minors in the vehicle during her DWI.

1:19:47what's twi driving um with influence i believe oh yeah dui yeah she has pled guilty and was sentenced to five years probation and according to internet sleuths again i don't know how true this information is but alexi's biological father has a custody agreement lives in texas and he owed or owes over ten thousand dollars in child support so I believe this is the latest update in the case as of now. Judge Finger released Alexi on bail and there is an interesting condition in her bond. She has to not get pregnant again. That's, yeah. So as for the impact of this case, I think we're just going to have to wait and see what's going to happen here.

1:20:33I think that this case is going to get politicized. I think it might be one of those cases where all the different parties use it as a way to further their political agenda. But I think just looking at the crime itself or the loss of life itself, I think we should focus on the ripple effect that it had on everyone, especially in the community of New Mexico. Many crime scene investigators, along with hospital staff, I mean, many of them had mental breakdowns. They're requiring counseling. They're coping with this traumatic event. Not only did a baby boy lose his life, a father lost his son. Grandmothers lost their grandbaby regardless of if they care or not.

1:21:17A mother lost her child. But there were people. There were a lot of people. Medical staff, first responders who had to witness these losses in the most traumatic way. So thank you to medical staff and first responders who are listening right now, these are superheroes. And I think that we like to think of them as just so strong and they just do their job so well, right? And they put in so much effort to making it look like they have no emotions, but they're just suppressing it for the sake of their patience. Lila, the housekeeper was the one that found the baby. And her police interview is so heartbreaking.

1:21:54Towards the end, the detectives ask her if she's doing anything to help with her emotions and she said no and she shared her previous struggles with the detectives in 2018 Lila's boyfriend died at his own hands um he shot himself in front of her and so you can imagine the blood at the crime scene she did see a psychiatrist afterwards and the psychiatrist told her don't take this cleaning job at the hospital if you see blood it might give you PTSD. But Leela thought, well, I do need to go to work. I need to make a life. I need to make a living. I need a routine. So she accepted the job. And just a few years later, she would have to witness yet another bloody crime scene.

1:22:43And in the CCTV footage, it looks like Leela has the body language of someone that's dealing with a lot of shock and potentially guilt. I think A lot of these nurses, a lot of these staff, they have the questions of, what if I check the bathroom better? What if I had checked the trash bin first? Maybe if I had opened the trash bin earlier. Maybe if I had just known. Maybe if I moved faster, maybe we tried to get into the bathroom a bit quicker. Many of the medical staff were very distraught because they never had the chance to save this little baby. And that's what they're trained for. That's what they spent all this time, energy, and money going to school to save people.

1:23:24And I think it's worse because it literally happened in the bathroom. It was not a crazy medical emergency that they just didn't understand that no one could help. So. Now, as of right now, Alexi has pled not guilty. There's a big chance it'll end up with a grand jury trial. And that will be in October. There are similar cases we've talked about where like 18, 19 year olds will give birth and dispose of their babies in pretty horrific ways, do you think it's going to have similar results, similar rulings? But let me know. And we will do our best to keep you guys updated. And we will see you in the next episode.

1:24:06Stay safe. And I'll see you Sunday. Bye.