#283: Missing Boy Discovered After 8 Years - Turns Out His Family Was Holding Him Captive The Whole Time

27:11He wanted to take care of things, but he was also really, really shy. He's very gentle, but very quiet, reserved. There was just one person that would bring him out of his shell, his beloved stepbrother, Charles. So Janie at one point when Rudy was younger had gotten remarried to a guy that already had a son, Charles, like I was mentioning. Remember, Charles was eight years older than Rudy. So both parents, they were concerned. Janie and the stepdad were worried. You know, what if the boys don't get along? They've got an eight year age gap. What if they freaking hate each other? Rudy falls in love with Charles the minute that they meet.

27:48He sees Charles as this older brother father figure that he never had, that he had been desperately craving. And everything Charles did, Rudy wanted to do. Charles has plans to go join the Marines. Rudy has plans to go join the Marines. Like he just looked up to him so, so much. And then one day, Janie and Rudy are home and Janie gets a call. She starts panicking and she tells Rudy, put on your clothes. We gotta go. We gotta go. Charles had gotten into a motorcycle accident at an intersection near their house when he was coming home. Janie and Charles ran out. They were there at the intersection before any paramedics even arrived, which I'm not sure was a good thing or not because Rudy could see Charles laying there.

28:28his brother, his father figure, his best friend is laying there losing so much blood. He was barely breathing. At just 13 years old, Rudy saw his big brother die on the side of the road. He watched Charles take his last breath right there on the streets of Houston. And I imagine this is incredibly traumatic. I mean, at 13, I'm kind of amazed at how well Rudy analyzed and expressed his grief. He went on to Facebook on the first anniversary of his brother's death. and he wrote, Brother, today is officially one year since the day you left to be with the Lord. I still miss you as much as I did then, if not more.

29:06You showed me so many things when you were here. My regret is not telling you that I loved you before you left. I wish God would just grant me one wish, and I would use that wish to bring you back. I wish I could ride with you through the open roads of the woods, and I just couldn't have asked for a better dad and a father figure. he's 14 when he wrote this like i can't believe how mature and thoughtful this post was and then three years after charles's passing rudy's biological father passed away rudy was 16 years old and rudy's dad was found in a parking garage in his patrol car in his police patrol car with his police issued pistol and a self-inflicted bullet wound to his head okay so let me explain rudy's biological dad was a police officer well not anymore at the time that he died he actually was fired from his position the day of his death a couple months before his death right higher up police officers caught a whiff of something fishy going on in their police force there were an overwhelming number of speeding tickets issued by officers who seemed to be able to like split their bodies in two early february rudy's dad issued a speeding ticket on the Katy freeway.

30:20Seven miles away at the exact same time, Rudy's dad was issuing another speeding ticket. So unless he was able to split his body into two, something he never told the police force about, or there was something fishy going on. It was clear he was writing up false traffic tickets. But the question is why, right? Like, what is the reason? Back then, and I don't know if it is still now, and I don't know how many different police departments do this, but certain police departments, they basically pay their police officers commission on speeding tickets. Think of it like that. So they get paid based on the number of tickets that they write.

30:54This probably has, I think, been since changed at most police departments to like a regular clock in clock out system to get overtime. But the more tickets equals the more overtime pay. Rudy's father was one of the three officers at this particular department doing this. He did this for three years and made more than$150 ,000 in fake overtime. time. Collectively, the three of them wrote more than 5 ,000 bogus tickets and fined random citizens a total of$350 ,000. So thankfully, after this comes to light, those tickets were thrown out. But Rudy's dad was fired from his position. He had to hand in his badge and his gun.

31:32But instead, he walked out of the court that day, went to the patrol car and took his own life. now Rudy wasn't that close with his biological dad he was not present in Rudy's life after he and Janie broke up but it took a really big toll on Rudy it seems like even Rudy was surprised by the amount of emotions that he was feeling after finding out about all of this he read on Facebook even though I didn't really know him it still hurt to lose him I mean maybe because I know I'm never going to get the chance to have that father-son relationship with him that I always wanted and get the closure that I always needed.

32:08Honestly, I didn't expect to feel anything for him when I got the news that he died, but I did. I didn't realize there were feelings I had. And I think these feelings were a mixture from shock to hurt to sad to anger to numbness and more anger and just, I don't know, so many mixed feelings. He's a very, very insightful kid. Yes. Like, even the way that he's able to grasp... It's illogical too, the way that he breaks it down. And the way that he articulates his feelings of like, I didn't expect to feel these feelings, you know? Yeah, very good at communicating. Now, Rudy was 16 when his dad passed.

32:47The combined death of his brother and his father in such a short amount of time, I mean, it definitely took a toll on him. His cousin stated that at 17 years old, he, and I don't know how to describe this. They say that he had the mental age of a 10 year old. I don't know if I believe that because of the Facebook posts, but I think they meant his innocence is kind of what I'm getting. So the way that they describe it is he's so warm, so kind, so sweet, but he had this childhood naiveness about him, that a manner of thinking that most children grow out of during teenagehood. Like, you know, when you're a teenager, you're like a menace to society.

33:27Everyone is. But he just had that childhood innocence about him. It seemed like maybe the trauma actually made him feel even more shy, more reserved. It did feel like he had some sort of depression, PTSD, and or anxiety. And then Rudy went missing. And then for the next eight years, Janie would tell the story. One of Rudy's chores after school was to eat dinner and then walk the two dogs. You know, usually it takes 15 minutes for them to do their business, but 15 minutes turned into two hours and three hours. and I'm pacing around the house trying to suppress the, you know, the motherly panic when you start to.

34:05I was reasoning with myself, you know, maybe he ran into a friend. He got distracted. But then Janie heard a bark at the door. Instead of her son and two dogs, there was one dog with the leash dangling behind it. The dog found its way home. Janie said she was actually less nervous now. She thought, OK, maybe while Rudy was walking the dogs, he let go of the leashes and they ran about. And so he was chasing. Maybe he's chasing after the other one right now. and this one found its way home. He's going to turn up soon. She waited. There was another bark at the door. Her other dog. By the morning, both dogs were home, but Rudy was gone.

34:42She called the police who didn't seem that interested in searching for Rudy. Technically, he was 17 and they considered him basically an adult, which you're like, what? Basic adult is 18. He's seven months shy of 18. And 17 is the age of consent in Texas. So like, no, he's not a minor. Are the police just heartless? Well, not really. Apparently, Janie gave them the wrong birth date when she initially reported him missing. It's unclear which birthday she gave, but that could potentially explain why the police believed him to be an adult when he went missing, at least briefly. Janie also told officers that Rudy had a tumor on his foot that made it very hard for him to walk, and he was struggling with his mental health.

35:22Officers searched the area that Rudy had gone missing. They found a backpack with notebooks and an asthma inhaler and Janie confirmed it to be Rudy's. Which this this is changing things. If Rudy ran away like the police initially thought, why would he have left his backpack and his inhaler in it? Now Rudy was classified as a missing persons case. And Janie went and just went into like missing mom mode. OK, she's printing out posters of Rudy and putting them up everywhere in town. she's getting the police involved, family members, friends, the entire community is putting up these posters. Everyone felt for Janie.

35:58First, her stepson Charles dies. Then her former husband dies. And now her other son is missing all in less than five years. They want to help. Especially after they heard Janie tell the story of how Rudy went missing. Of course they want to help. They couldn't believe it. I mean, just a young kid walking the family dogs goes missing. It's shocking. but it is just a story isn't it so the case goes cold slowly officers who are working on rudy's case they get transferred they start working on different cases they retire they get fired and the community also kind of moved on i mean there was such little information to even go off of nobody would even have any clue in which general direction to even search for rudy the only one that was interested in looking for rudy was good old janie she started a gofundme page for her son and she wrote it has been so long and rudy is still missing please help us find rudy the community came together and donated over two thousand dollars to find her son the detectives continued searching but they told dateline nbc we don't really suspect any foul play what there's nothing to indicate that he had gone missing really yeah the backpack they they say that they couldn't even be really sure that that's rudy's backpack all they got was the mother's confirmation yeah and the investigation fizzled out and for years janie was active on true crime forums posting about her son she even stated that she was worried for her own safety she stated the police hinted at her that human traffickers were involved which like side note goes against what the police have just stated publicly that there was no foul play suspected but you know sometimes they withhold that information from the general public but just noting the discrepancy there.

37:41But maybe Janie knew best, right? Before Rudy was found, Janie started asking around about when the least busy time was at the US-Mexico border. She stayed that she wanted to take a trip down to the border town Reynosa and she stayed that she knew without a shadow of doubt that Rudy had been human trafficked and smuggled across the border into Mexico. She was going to go down there, movie taken style, and get her son back. she talked to her friends like this is like a mission impossible mission she's gonna go undercover i mean she would do whatever it takes she would go undercover to get these traffickers to get them to trust her she would fight tooth and nail to get her son back even if she has to pose as a customer as a human trafficker herself she was gonna do whatever it took i mean she was like really hyping it up she was painting a picture of how dangerous and how terrifying this mission was going to be.

38:29And everyone's like, really? Reynosa? It's a pretty chill town. It's like being like, I'm going to go into the dirty streets of San Diego. Everyone's like, oh, that's not really what I know San Diego to be about. Reynosa and a lot of Mexico is not a drug war zone, like how often the media in the U.S. likes to portray Mexico. Reynosa is just a town with a ton of kids, shops, universities. It's actually a pretty good tourist town. It's like a normal town. And of course, there's probably human trafficking there. I mean, there's human trafficking presence in every major and mid-sized city around the world, especially near country borders.

39:09But going to Reynosa is not really like this dangerous mission that Janie is like hyping it up to be. But she starts a whole fundraiser to fund her trip. People are going to come together, make donations, hear his story and give support. It was supposed to help bring Rudy home. In reality, Janie didn't seem that invested. So the rest of the family, Rudy's cousins, aunts, uncles, they had pooled all their money together and actually hired two private investigators that showed up at the fundraiser. And the two PIs, they're pretty observant. Everyone else is, you know, we're normal people. We're like in our heads.

39:46We're, okay, I'm stressed about this that's going on in my life and I'm not really focusing on other people right now. these two PIs they're they're like detectives they said you know it's weird at the fundraiser Janie showed up late she didn't go around and say hello to any of the people who are donating money or anyone who was at the fundraiser and remember how she said she knew which human trafficker took Rudy well the private investigators obviously were interested in this and they were like hey you gotta tell us the name you gotta tell us that we can't help you we're literally being paid to help you so let us help you she hesitantly probably gave them a name and they actually tracked that person down called them and this alleged human trafficker already knew rudy's mom and she stated i told janie i didn't want to be involved in her scam and then they hung up what very strange then on a different occasion janie sent this investigator receipts of conversations that she allegedly had with rudy's traffickers now the thing is she told the pis that these traffickers were located in Tijuana, Mexico.

40:47The type of Spanish in the alleged conversation is the wrong dialect for someone from Mexico. Okay, this is kind of crazy, right? And the thing about Spanish is that there's literally an entire world of different dialects. There's this interesting phenomenon that's actually happening right now in border states between Mexico and the US and inside of the US where Spanish is changing. It's called Chicano Spanish or Spanglish or Tex-Mex Spanish. It's Valley Spanish, some people say. It's got a ton of different names. It's basically Spanish mixed with English. So it's not like I'm speaking Spanish and then throwing in English words, but the English construction of a sentence is used and replaced by Spanish.

41:31So like in Korea, it could be like... Yeah, it's like grammar is changing a little bit. Like in Korean, it would be you over there go is the construction of the sentence. And then in English, it'd be go over there. But you know what I mean? So it would be that English construction of the sentence, but replaced with Spanish. There are also a lot of words that are kind of not made up, but not really said a lot in Mexico. That's used with a lot of second or third generation immigrants from Mexico that now reside in the U.S. It's on its way to becoming classified as its own language. So the text messages between Janie and the traffickers showed Chicano Spanish.

42:10both ways. And the PIs kind of raised their eyebrows. Like, sure, it's a possibility that people in Mexico can speak a dialect that's mostly found in the US. But fun fact, this dialect, Chicano Spanish, is typically looked down upon by people in Mexico. They call Chicano speakers no sabo, or like no sabo kids, kids who don't know, quote, real Spanish. There's almost a pride in Mexico of like, oh, you're not really from Mexico. So it's not a desirable dialect to speak if you reside in Mexico. And she said that these traffickers were from Tijuana. So, but guess who knows Chicano Spanish and guess who speaks Chicano Spanish?

42:50Janie. Oh, that's her language. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. She's an immigrant residing in the US. So it makes sense for her side of the text to be that dialect. but the alleged traffickers also speak Chicano Spanish. It's just something interesting to note. And besides that, Janie and the alleged traffickers had the same manner of speaking, like the same way of punctuating. And the PI speculated that Janie just really wanted to go to Raynosa for a little vacation, but she wanted the public to pay for it. So she used Rudy as an excuse for the fundraiser. Okay, so to get it straight, the whole family was like, okay, let's help her now.

43:30so they hire two investigators and these two investigators is investigating the shit out of her yeah basically yeah and she's basically digging her own own uh grave now yes but i think the family doesn't know that because the investigators i think they were trying to hint it to the other family members that hired them but it's very hard to be like hey i think your sister is lying about this without any proof you know because these are all kind of like oh i don't want to say it i know we're both thinking it but like i don't want to be the one to say it yeah yeah one month later she reports to the police that she was robbed and carjacked by an unknown subject who fled to mexico she doesn't even say how she knew they went to mexico with her car she said that she was robbed by and i quote an illegal and that left such a sour awful taste in people's mouths i mean she's from this community most of the people supporting her and supporting her cause were people that lived in the area and they felt like, you know what?

44:30Maybe Rudy is not being found because he's not a white kid. Like we as immigrants, we need to stick together. None of these people were rich. This is not the socioeconomic community where they're just pouring in money to GoFundMes. They didn't have a lot of disposable income. A lot of them had family from Mexico, just like Cheney has family from Mexico. I mean, she should understand how hurtful it is to call someone and illegal and accuse them of a crime, but she still did it. And remember how Janie's siblings sued her to get custody of their mother?

45:06So it sounds like all of her siblings hate her, right? That's not really the case. They still really cared for Janie. They just also really cared for their mother. Whenever Janie got a call of a reported sighting of Rudy, it didn't matter where in the country it was. The siblings would drive her for days. one time they took her from Texas Houston, Texas and drove her all the way to California because they got an anonymous tip that Rudy was seen in California they would take days off work they would leave their families leave their bills leave their responsibilities to get Janie to California to see if that was her son and it was never Rudy after each failed attempt to find Rudy Janie would post onto Facebook and she once posted Rudy Farias I know God and Big Brother Charles are both watching over you wherever you are.

45:55I ask them to every single night. I ask that they shield you and protect you wherever you are and keep you safe until we can find you and bring you home. Where could you possibly be? I miss your morning kisses and your everyday funny pranks. I just miss you, period. Your room is empty and cold as you once described your brother's room when he passed away. That empty feeling I never wanted to feel again after losing your brother. but here I am with that emptiness once again so please find your way back home to me and fill this empty void that I'm feeling side note Janie references losing her other son a lot and while she was Charles' stepmom and I know stepmoms can be very involved and can be just like a regular mom like a biological mom to their children Janie and Charles allegedly weren't close at all like allegedly Janie didn't really care for Charles like that and then he died and then after he died suddenly it was like my son, my son I'm grieving my son You were my everything, my son.

46:51Anyway, her post continued. I can't do this anymore. You are all I have left. Please find your way home. At the time she wrote and posted this Facebook post, Rudy was in her house being held prisoner behind a locked door. It seems like he was held captive in that room for eight years. Rudy would later state that he was never chained up or physically held captive, but he was mentally held captive. Eight years ago, when he was 17 years old, he had gotten fed up with how he was being treated at home He felt underappreciated. He felt a lack of respect He said his mother never respected his boundaries and he just wanted to live his own life, right?

47:31So he ran away at 17. He ran away He came back the very next day. He wasn't gone for like 24 hours even Nobody saw him come back except his mom He walked in through the door probably expecting to apologize and be like, okay, I couldn't do it I'm 17. I can't even get a job, right? But Janie told him, you need to go into hiding. What? The police are looking for you, Rudy. You're a wanted man now. You'd gotten a speeding ticket a few days ago, and because I already reported you missing, I mean, the police think that you're running from the law, running away from the speeding ticket. You're an outlaw.

48:07The police are looking for you, and when they find you, they're going to throw you in jail for running away. Rudy genuinely believed her. I mean, keep in mind that his family said that at the age of 17, his mental age was closer to 10. And this was his mother. So he didn't expect that she would ever lie. So he stayed hidden in his room for the first day. And then the first day turned into like a week and then a year. And then his mother had everything worked out. She had thoroughly brainwashed him. Anytime anyone would come over, he would go into the room, lock the door and stay deathly silent.

48:36The only people who knew he was home was his mother and his grandmother, Rosa. I mean, that's it. She tried to tell the rest of the kids. So Rudy's aunts and uncles that Rudy was in that room, but every single time and Rudy heard all of this. What? Yeah, he is in the room listening to his family talk, laugh together. And then randomly his grandmother would be like, Rudy's in that room. He desperately wanted to do something, but he couldn't. His mom convinced him that if anyone knew that he was home, the police would find out and he would go to jail. So why does she bring her mom to the house too?

49:11oh i some people suspect that she was getting checks from the government if she was the caretaker i see yeah so after the case had died down enough she allowed him to go outside to visit the neighbors once in a while only so long that he used the name golf instead of rudy she also took him to work with her she worked as a like an overnight security job so all she did is do some paperwork and kind of sit there and she forced him to do all the paperwork basically anything in the job that she didn't want to do he was doing it and when he wasn't doing her job for her she would toss him her credit card and have him go buy the groceries do some errands i mean this is incredibly ballsy yeah allegedly according to a source that spoke with rudy after he was found they stated rudy had suffered physical and mental abuse at the hands of his mother they alleged that during the eight years janey would drug rudy punish him by locking him in his room like a prison.

50:07She threatened and taunted him that he was going to go to prison and she convinced him that he was in a lot of trouble. She kept him drugged up allegedly so that he couldn't think for himself. There are also allegations of SA during this time that are hotly debated online. An activist who spoke with Rudy alleged that Rudy told him that his mother would come into the bathroom when he was showering, force him to bathe her. Sometimes she would just stare at him while he showered. The activist also claimed Rudy stated that Janie forced Rudy under the covers with her without any clothes on. And it sounds like Rudy didn't say this.

50:41Rudy did say these things, but the part that is hotly debated is some people are interpreting that as clear abuse. Other people are interpreting it as he didn't explicitly say. In fact, Rudy actually would later deny abuse was involved. But to some people, this is abuse, you know. So the activist believes 100 % without a doubt that there was some sort of abuse going on. This went on for about eight years. But Janie is no mastermind. It's not like she pulled off the most meticulous plan for eight years long. We actually have a strange time period called the Rudy sightings. In 2018, Rudy's cousin Cassandra called the police and she said the weirdest thing had just happened.

51:24I think I just saw my cousin and my cousin is missing. but I went back to check and now he's gone okay Cassandra what did you see him oh near my aunt's house his mom's house the police would go to check they didn't have a warrant so they would ask Janie if they could take a look around and she would let them now typically with warrants or the lack of a warrant I guess is they don't really dig too much like they don't go through your cabinets they don't go through your drawers in fact if a door is closed typically the police will ask you, can I open that door? Because they don't have a warrant.

51:58They don't have to forcibly open everything. And there was one door that was closed. It was at the end of the hallway. And they asked, can we open the door? And she said, oh, I'd rather you not. Since they didn't have a search warrant, they couldn't force her to open the door. The house was quiet and orderly. She was being generally helpful. They didn't feel like anything was suspicious. I mean, who knows what's behind the door? Maybe it's just like a bunch of her underwear that's hanging in plain sight after she did laundry. Either way, the police leave and chalk the sighting up as a false lead until it happened again.

52:28This time it happened when Janie was in the car. She was stopped by the traffic police for a minor traffic offense. She was let off with a warning and the police asked for her name and for the name of the guy in the passenger seat. She said her name was Judy, not Janie. And she told the officers that the guy in the passenger seat was her nephew, Rafael. they didn't even run her license plate because the traffic offense was so minor wow there were a few more sightings of rudy all around his house or in his neighborhood but each time the police investigated janie said that it was just a nephew of hers that looked so similar to rudy but the police were kind of confused at the time because most of the sightings of rudy were reported by rudy's family members like his cousin cassandra the neighbors the passerbys that's explainable you know if a neighbor is like i think i saw this guy on a missing poster right it's explainable maybe there's a lot of strong genes in the family but a family members like how likely are you to mistake one cousin for another and be so convinced that one cousin is the other that you immediately call the police these family members must be losing their mind for years yes and janie is like master manipulating them the whole time and they're so like my heart even if they have suspicions yes and then it's like is it true is it possible is it not possible they must be losing their mind and then you have to also consider when you are accusing someone of something so heinous yeah you start talking yourself out of it and you're like am i horrible for thinking that even yeah am i horrible for even thinking that she's capable of doing something so bad and then you uh come to find out that you were right yeah then you probably will feel shitty yeah you should have done something right they feel a lot of guilt even rosa rudy's grandmother who had dementia she would constantly you know point and janie would say oh my god ignore her guys.

54:25She probably is just missing Rudy. That's all. Yeah. Netizens speculate that the police didn't care too much about these alleged sightings because either A, Rudy is an adult at this point or B, because of Rudy's socioeconomic status. Now, after eight years, Rudy had this plan. He waited until the middle of the night, stole his mom's car keys. This is when he is found again, right? After eight years. He's been living like this for eight years, going as Dolph, doing his mom's job not able to leave the house unless his mom warranted it like it was a lot so he's like i gotta escape he stole his mom's car keys credit card drove away from the house now from what we know now he didn't have any other destination except for going away like he just wanted to get away he got a couple minutes away before he crashed the car it had been eight years since he drove a car every so often his mom would let him drive the car around but very rarely he wasn't used to it he crashed it that's how he got majority of the cuts and bruises he left the keys in the car and continued on foot he said he wandered around without much direction and at one point he appeared in front of a church and uh that's where he was found and he was quote reunited with his family now remember the picture of rudy in the hospital after he was found yeah rudy's family immediately recognized that photo from eight years ago apparently jenny had posted the same photo eight years ago when Rudy was hospitalized for the tumor on his foot.

55:54Remember? It's not even a recent photo. What the hell? And the whole nation was like, oh my God, Rudy's been found and he's in the hospital right now. We don't even know if he went to the hospital. Side note, she went to the church to be joined with Rudy. And authorities would later come out and say that they were trying to rush Rudy to the hospital. But Janie kept saying, no, no, no, he doesn't want to go to the hospital. So they just thought, okay, maybe like he's too scared to be in a hospital right now. Maybe mother knows best, right? So the family was very vocal about this discrepancy online.

56:24So the family is all turning on Janie. They're trying to be behind Rudy. They're turning on Janie 100%. And there were a lot of speculations because the family is now suddenly turning on the mom. Netizens were bringing up like, ooh, maybe there's some doubt on this story. After Rudy was found, Janie made a Facebook account by the name of Beos Ninos, meaning beautiful children. and she posted as if it was like a fan page for her and her children but she never posted about about rudy is weird yeah and then in another post janey is pretending to be a news tiktok account and she posted coming from estranged family members of the sanchez family the family had come for janey before rosa their mother passed away it was a nasty court battle but because As Janie prevailed, they had since been seeking revenge by slander and defamation.

57:15Basically saying, all the family members that are now casting doubt on Rudy's story after Rudy has been found, they're all doing this because they hate Janie. Because Janie won custody of their mom in court. It's not because there's actual holes in the story. It's because they're revengeful. They're vengeful people. after rudy was found janie continued to have full-blown conversations with herself online she would use fake accounts to comment things on her own posts like this must be so hard for you sending you strength and love during this difficult time then she i wonder if you know fake account you click on it there's nothing on their page and then it's like they have nothing they've commented on nothing else but your post yes yes and you're like so fake yes you're like You literally made this account to do this right now.

58:08Then she would log out, turn around, sign into another account and go, same here. I can't imagine going through what you're going through. Good wishes to you and your family. Wow. Then she would sign into her account and comment, thank you. Your support really means a lot. Sorry. It's not funny. It's like so, you know, the Korean saying it's like so ridiculous. I have no other reaction. Right. then she would use another account to make another post she posted a selfie of herself but it was coming from like someone else's account speaking for her and then captioned it this is from rudy farias's mother janey alexis santana these bitches need to shut their traps it's sad when you need to attack people during a crisis just for followers clout and popularity if anyone is following those hoes either on facebook tiktok or any other social media you will be blocked from here and all posts will be private for friends and family only we don't need the bullshit and negativity.

59:03Either you support Janie and Rudy or you don't. And if you don't, then get the f*** out and delete your ass off our pages or I'll find out who you are and I'll do it for you and you won't see shit moving forward. I'm not the one, boo. So that was coming from her pretending to be a fan. Yeah. Yikes. So there's a lot going on, but netizens are a little confused on why she even did this, you know, as this is unfolding. They said, you got your son back after eight years, you know, just give it up. Like, don't be doing all this. Just focus on your family. Like, who cares about the haters on TikTok?

59:40And now Janie is suing one of her sisters for defamation and slander. Janie's siblings and her nephews and nieces have come forward and said, Janie needs to be brought in. They're not going to know what the hell she's really done if they don't bring her in and put pressure on her to talk. They're covering up what they knew years ago and they don't want to come forward. Another aunt said she hid this. That was awful and wrong. For what she did to him, that girl needs to go to jail. Rudy's other aunt Sylvia said, I have not seen him since the day he went missing. Over the years, I even went out of state with Janie to help look for him.

1:00:15She had me out here in California thinking that someone had found someone that looked like Rudy in California and I went all the way there with her. His aunt Patricia said, How could you do that to your own kid? And I bet you it was Janie who threw him out there and beat him up by that church to be found. The family is also kind of upset with the police. They believe the police didn't do enough during the years to try and find him. I mean, they literally came face to face with Rudy during a traffic stop and didn't notice anything. On July 5th, Rudy was finally ready to talk. Except the only person that he was willing to talk to wasn't the police, but it was a local activist by the name of Quanell X.

1:00:51Quanell was the leader of the new Black Panther movement in Houston. He is an activist advocate for victims of discrimination, police violence, wrongful termination, and more. He helps people get media coverage for their cases and negotiates with law enforcement on their behalf. He is not a lawyer. He is just an activist. And when I say just, I don't mean like just an activist. But you get it. He's not a lawyer. He's not a police officer. Now, Janie called him and asked if he would speak with her son. And Rudy also agreed to speak with him. Wait, Janie called? Yeah. Huh. And Quanell got the call out and he rushed over.

1:01:24Rudy didn't want to talk to the police and he hadn't talked to the police since he had been quote found. Now Quanell asked if Rudy minded if police sat in on their conversation. Rudy didn't have to talk to the police. He didn't have to answer their questions, but they would just be there to listen. And he agreed. Now, Janie was originally in that motel room, like that hotel room while they're having this conversation. but every time he would try to talk she would kind of like put pressure on him to shut up or she would give him a look or she would like put his hand put her hand on him she was very hesitant so they asked her to leave the room and then she was like okay fine but he needs me because he might have a panic attack they're like just just leave the room five minutes later the door would burst open and she'd be like is my baby okay is my baby doing okay you can't force him to talk he's gonna have a panic attack and then she would burst in the room again two minutes later like Rudy, Rudy, are you okay?

1:02:15Are they putting pressure on you? It seems like she's scared of him saying something. Eventually, they would get an hour alone with Rudy, and Quinell would come out of it, and there were news reporters all outside the hotel waiting for this moment, and he told them there was definitely abuse, no doubt about it. When he started telling me this, I couldn't believe it. I sat there trying to hold back my tears to be strong for him because I didn't want him to see that. The most sacred thing to a young man is his mama, but to hear what she did to her son she's the damn devil she convinced him to use a fake name and told him to really believe that that was his name and with a lot of drugs it worked this boy was abused big time with drugs along with what i believe is abuse based on what he said to us the boy was mentally tortured and physically that was a house of hell apparently rudy told him that he was forced to quote play husband during his time in captivity quenelle told interviewers that Rudy had cut marks all over his forearms like razor marks.

1:03:13He also had some on top of his chest which were later identified as self-harm marks. Rudy told Quanell, I just want to be free. I'm tired of living like a slave. I feel like a slave. Quanell told the media, I want his mother to pay for the crimes that she's committed. Based on what that boy told me, I don't see why she's not in handcuffs right now. He was petrified by them, but the minute that he was by himself, he calmed down. the minute that she left the room he calmed down i believe she was drugging the hell out of that kid he said he didn't like getting into the bed with her that he would try and sneak out of the bed but she told him he had to be her husband the police did not arrest janey i don't know why even if they can't use rudy's story which i think they can since there were officers present they had enough evidence to charge her with something i mean she falsely led police to believe that rudy was missing for eight whole years there must have been some sort of obstruction of investigations like anything like that obstruction of justice nothing rudy went home with his mom that very night yeah and uh before they left she actually pulled him aside and said tell them you made it all up and that it was all a lie if you tell them the truth i will kill myself she thought she was out of range from the media's mics but she had no idea she was being no way yeah she said if you tell the truth yeah i'm gonna kill myself wow um yeah but she's still sticking by her story she said that he had been missing for eight years the police held a press conference and they stated that it doesn't seem like as of now they will be pressing any charges against yeah against janie they said that there is in their belief no evidence of essay and being missing is not illegal being mia is not illegal i don't know why they can't charge her with like obstruction of justice or anything like that but they also stated that they're underfunded and overworked or something they made it a whole thing personally i wonder and this is a pure speculation on my part this case got so much national attention i wonder if they admitted that there was sa involved it would become a how did the police not check the house how did they not get a like a search warrant how they did how did they not know during the traffic stop i wonder if it would come back to the police yeah but yes the issue here is rudy is still under the mom's abuse currently yeah so he is now with a family friend but we don't know like how far her manipulation is if she's gonna get him to talk to her again yeah yeah he's so traumatized and so scared and yeah and the mom got away with it so how is he gonna get better yeah i do that's just my pure speculation i feel like if they think that there is essay or if there's more investigation that uncovers something it could lead to a wow the police is incompetent versus they already look like a joke right now i know yeah i think so too but here we are right

1:06:20July 11th Rudy was finally ready to talk His face and body were completely blurred in the interview footage He confirmed that his mom made him stay hidden in the house the entire time He said I was I had free will to leave She never handcuffed me but it felt like brainwashing Eventually she would lock me in there mentally She was my only parent She was the only figure that I had after I lost my brother When I lost my brother I didn't have anybody to teach me how to live or even have confidence He stated during his captivity, he tried to keep busy. I would study religions and cultures online. I think we should stop putting labels on everything.

1:06:55There should be prosperity, but there is too much depression and anger in the world. He stated that there was no essay. He said, I remember I had to sleep with her, but it wasn't or anything like that. I would not lie about that because there are plenty of people who need help. The media likes to twist my words. I never said anything bad about her in that regard. It was just boundaries she would push. She would make me uncomfortable and I would say stop and she would ask me why I didn't do anything wrong So I would tell her okay and let her do whatever she had to do. I was just a people pleaser It was just her her her all the time.

1:07:27My mom The interviewer tried to be more specific and they said what about what quenelle said? About what just what he said about the relationship between you and your mom specifically About the See that's what i'm saying about the media. I never said anything about intercourse he didn't get into specifics like that yeah she did want me to play husband like cook and clean we know that she wanted you to play the role of a father but as far as assaults did she ever no she didn't do anything like that i do not need to go file for a rape kit or make a police report i would never it would never be like that i did not have any reference or people to bounce off of as to understand what was a healthy thing or not maybe it was just not me understanding how people worked because she was the only person I ever understood.

1:08:13The interview will be linked in the show notes, but Rudy does speak a lot about, um, it's, it is kind of all over the place. He speaks about colors and algorithms and how they affect the psyche. He would say that the algorithm is what is controlling us through social media and colors. So if you see something white, you get distracted. You see something pink, you'd be reminded of someone who's trying to help you. And you're reminded of prosperity and love and red reminds you of anger and hate. So he was saying that there's a lot of corruption and colors and things like that. So there's a lot that's going on.

1:08:47I think there was a portion about vaccines. I think that overall, even in the interview, it seems like he's this very incredibly kind, articulate, caring person, but also someone who seems to be suffering quite a bit. I think also maybe the comparison between his initial Facebook post when he was much younger into now it does seem like there is more trauma that's being expressed in the way that he communicates is just what a lot of people speculate right now he is staying with a family friend and that is where the case is as of now Janie is still living at her house in Houston and no charges have been filed.

1:09:32What a freaking story. Wow. I mean, I don't even know what to say. It's just so ridiculous. This happened like not even really a month ago. So June 29th, but it started unraveling in July. The investigation is still kind of ongoing, they say, but I don't think we're going to get updates, but I will keep an eye out for you guys and let you know of any updates that come along in the meantime let me know your thoughts in the comments because i mean i saw this unravel online i'm sure like many of you and it was just so so out there stay safe and i will see you guys on sunday for the main episode bye