#317: Congresswoman Adopted 55 Children & Turned Them Into Killers

25:12He was dismembered and hung up. And his body parts were on hooks and strings. Whoever did this to him, they knew a thing or two about his rituals because they drained him of his blood and stored it in like a Wetzel. So before he was dismembered, he was drained of his blood. It was put into containers and then he was dismembered and hung up like meat. Carmozina, she had every intention of calling the police and alerting them of her brother's murder. But only after she bathed herself head to toe in her brother's blood because she felt like that was the only way to transfer his powers onto her. And then she scooped up his baby daughter that she saved and fled.

25:53Laodicea would be Carmazina's adopted daughter, Flora's cousin and adoptive sister, and also her biggest enemy growing up. They hated each other as kids. So it could be said that Flora fell in love four times in her life before being accused of murdering her husband. Now we're talking about Carmazina's daughter, Flora, right? So Flora's first love was through proximity. Flora had this very innocent crush on her next door neighbor, Sandoval. And the not so innocent part of all of this is that she's 12 and he's 32. But this is a good learning lesson. You know, it's a good moment for all the adults, including Sandoval, to sit her down and be like, hey, you know, these are a lot of big emotions, but nothing's going to come out of this.

26:37So you know what I mean? But instead, Sandoval, the 32 year old, starts grooming 12 year old Flora. Obviously, so many things are wrong with this. And this is not the definition of love. I don't think I have to state the obvious. But Floor's mom, Carmizina, knew about the grooming and imposed just one condition. She said, everything's fine. I'm going to allow this relationship as long as you do one thing for me. Floor, you are not allowed to have any sexual relations with him before you get married because that is a sin. Floor listened to her mother. But 32-year-old Sandoval spent every waking moment that he had with Floor like a little snake, manipulating her into believing it's only a sin if it's done traditionally.

27:18He convinced her that him sodomizing her did not count. Now, LaDicia, if you remember, the daughter of Flor's uncle, the one that killed his wife and then was butchered like meat, yeah. LaDicia was the one of the first people in the family to find out about Flor's essay. She's 22 at the time, and she knew how bad this was. So she went to their dad, because Carmosina had remarried, and said, hey, listen, this is what's going on with Flor. And her hope was that he would be so upset, and he would force Flor to promise, I'm never going to see Sandoval ever again so that Laodicea could have him to herself.

27:52She wanted Sandoval but instead their dad got red in the face and he was screaming about how he was going to gather up all of his friends and go jump Sandoval and beat the living day outside of him. Laodicea rushed to warn Sandoval that he had to escape, run away because their dad would never stop looking for him but she also wanted him to take her with him. Allegedly he just looked at her and told her you're too old for me and ran off. How old is she again? 22. Wow. He's 32. Flora's first love was through proximity. Flora's second love would be through grief. And right now, Flora's house was very tense.

28:30Her mom, Carmazina, and her second husband, they just weren't seeing eye to eye. She kept trying to tell him, do not go to that church trip. I had a dream that you're going to die in a car crash, and I told you that my visions are always very accurate. To him, he's like, this is nonsense. He's like waving his hand. He's going on that trip and he's going to take their son with him because this is what you can't just have dreams and then tell me how to live my life. Interestingly enough, Flora herself, she always went on these trips with her dad. But this time she chose to stay home. And her mom just shook her head as she watched her husband and son leave.

29:05And she told Flora, I cannot go against God's will. So she stayed because she believes her mom more than anything. She thinks her mom is like a witch is the belief. Right. and it's like she knew that this would be the last time that she would see her husband carmazina the church concert was a success and they're all thinking see carmazina isn't always right about everything they pack into their cars and they start driving back home and that is when a bus slams into the back of flora's dad's car it was really bad passerby stopped to check if everybody was okay if anybody needed help authorities showed up to the scene and thankfully every single person was alive.

29:42Minor injuries, but alive. Police arrived at the scene. They're trying to organize everything. Who needs an ambulance? How to direct traffic? And in that moment, a car comes full speed straight towards them, crashing into the civilians that were standing outside the original car crash, killing seven people, including Floor's husband and brother. That's crazy. Yeah. Do we know what happened? What do you mean? Just a rando, a car accident, purely? Yeah, car accident. I mean, it's crazy that I'm sure after the first car incident, they were having shaken feelings of like, oh my gosh, what a close call.

30:19Maybe Carmozina was right.

30:33On the day of Flora's dad's funeral, the pastor asked Flora if she could sing for the crowd gathered there. It was all very last minute and Flora's like 14. She doesn't have a band or a mic. She really does have a beautiful voice though. She sang acapella, no mic, in the church, just her vocal strength. And everyone in attendance was moved. For her, her father's funeral was the first time that she felt some level of fame. And it seemed like she really, really liked it. It was her dad's funeral where she would bump into a man named Paolo, her soon-to-be first husband. So the way that they met honestly sounds like a story for the movies.

31:10She's singing at her dad's funeral in front of the crowd. She is on like a podium, like a stage of sorts. And when she's done, she's so shaken from the nerves and the grief and like the sadness. And she looks around and there's a man standing next to the stage, holding out his hand to help her down. She takes his hand. He hoists her off the stage and then he disappears into the crowd. She doesn't see him for another four years until she's 18. she's on the church stage singing and she locks eyes with the man in the crowd it's the kind man that had helped her off the stage at her dad's funeral and as she sang he got up from the church pews it's like both of them were in a trance he starts making his way through the crowd coming closer and closer to the front of the church never breaking eye contact with her which mind you it sounds super romantic but like she's singing a gospel right now not a pop romantic song It's a little interesting.

32:04He makes his way to the front of the crowd and the rest was history. She married Pastor Paolo who told her for the past four years he had been waiting to see her again. How old is Pastor Paolo? He seems old, yeah, for sure. I don't know for certain. Don't quote me on it. I would imagine he was like in his 30s and she just turned 18. So I don't think it was he was waiting four years to meet her again. I'm sure he knew exactly who she was. but conveniently now she's 18. They get married. They had three children. So Flora has biological children. Simone, Flavio, and Adriano. They will become very important to this case later but we're gonna dive in later, right?

32:45Don't worry about it. You say four kids. She's gonna have another one with her second husband. So she's got three biological children with her first husband, Pastor Paolo. And these were probably the most normal years of Flora's life. But Pastor Paolo was convinced Flora was cheating on him. He said that he just couldn't do it anymore. Sure, divorce is bad in Christianity, but he cannot keep up with her sexual appetite. That's what he said. She's just too much. Floor turned around and accused him of beating her. So it was kind of a mess that ended up in divorce and Floor taking her three biological kids and knocking back on the witch's door, her mom's door.

33:20Floor's first love was through proximity. Her second love was through grief. And now her third love would be through adoption. Floor, now she's in her 30s, like 32-ish, got three biological children. She's a single mom and she's heavily involved in the churches in the favelas. She starts trying to do anything that she can to help. She starts bringing in kids from the favela to stay with her and starts informally adopting just any kid that needs help. Any kid that doesn't have present parents or food on the table, she's bringing them in. And this case is very interesting because she never formally adopts any of the kids.

33:54Legally, they are not her children. And this becomes an issue later because the police accused her of kidnapping 55 kids. But as of right now, she's taking in random kids off the streets, telling them to call her mother Floor or mother flower, if you will. And she'd be like, what's your name, Michael? Okay, why not today? We start calling you Samuel. She really liked names with some sort of biblical undertones. And one of the first few kids that she adopted was her biological daughter's 14-year-old boyfriend. So, you know, his name is Anderson Do Carmo. And this is very interesting. Even after being adopted by his girlfriend's mother, Floor, and moving in with them, Anderson still stayed in contact with his biological parents.

34:38So it's, you know, is it really like a full-scale adoption? Some of the kids were because they didn't really have parents around or parents left them or they were killed or whatever it may be. But a lot of the kids, their parents still lived in the same town. I see. They would reside formally with Floor. They would eat her food. They would stay with her. They would call her mom, but they would still sometimes go see their biological parents. It's a very interesting setup. So that was the case with Anderson. He would go see them frequently, but it seemed like they just weren't really in the space to take care of him as a kid.

35:09Because when his girlfriend Simone, Floor's daughter, breaks up with him, he's desperately looking for some sort of emotional comfort. And allegedly, the rumor goes like this. After Simone broke up with Anderson, He said he wanted to go into the mountains to pray. He wanted to go soul search. But instead of going alone, he asked his adopted mom, Mother Floor, can you come with me for guidance? I want you to like be there with me, comfort me. They went up the mountain as Mother Floor and adopted son, and they came down the mountain as girlfriend and boyfriend. Anderson was 14 at the time. Floor was 30 years old.

35:43This is her daughter's ex-boyfriend. Floor would later refute this and say, no, no, no, no, no, he was 18 by the time that we started dating. But there seems to be a lot of evidence that says otherwise. Allegedly, Floor was even briefly expelled from her church because, you know, pedophilia. But allegedly, she was allowed back in because a lot of the churchgoers were like, I know what she did was wrong, but like she has a beautiful voice and we want to hear her sing. And that's when she found her fourth love. And maybe that fourth love had always been there. But Floor's fourth love and greatest love was herself.

36:19Flora loved being Mother Flower. She loved the idea of it. The mother of the nation. The mother of 50 children. She had this magnetic personality and charm to her. It's just always been like that though. I think charisma is one of those things. Like yeah, maybe you could learn it over time if you buy all these like self-help books online. But some people are just born with it. Growing up, Flora would sit all of her family members down in the living room. And she would sing for them. And it was always the same five songs on repeat. but she expected every single one of them to be at full attention and gasp in unison.

36:50It like this is the first time they've ever heard her hit that note, which I will say she is an incredible singer. She has this amazing soulfulness to her voice, which is great for gospel music. You know, it's just Floor since the day she was born. She knew she was someone special. And there are a lot of different sides to Floor. So at first glance, she's Congresswoman Floor, Pastor Floor, Wife Floor and Mother Floor. It's like she has 8000 lives. her political career it started with a vision she told this story a lot on the campaign trail she said that she woke up one morning with the most vivid dream she sat up and she started telling her husband Anderson about it I was alone on the road and all these papers were just on the floor on the street just stacks of white paper loose paper and all of a sudden the wind blew and the stack of papers came up in slow motion and they were just floating they weren't falling back down.

37:41They were just floating, levitating in the air. So she grabs one and she holds it in her hand and she's reading it. And it was a picture of herself and four numbers. These were flyers for her running for the national Congress in Brazil. And she said, God was telling me to run for office. And that's what she did. She told the story on the campaign trail a lot. And she talked about her family life in great detail also. So her main cause as a politician was to shorten the adoption process. She said, as a mother of 55 adopted children in this process in Brazil, it's so bureaucratic. There is so much nonsense.

38:20If a child is in need of a loving home, they should be able to get that soon. Not in a few years when the government decides the paperwork is good enough. There are at any given point 9 ,000 children up for adoption and 40 ,000 couples looking to adopt. So why are there still kids in the foster care system? Does it make sense? Because this cause was so closely tied to Floor's life, for the listeners, it didn't feel like another politician making empty promises that probably had no real interest or connection to the cause. Her whole image of being a mom was so fitting that it won her the seat. Congresswoman Floor made history as the most voted woman in the state with over 196 ,000 votes.

39:03During her time as Congresswoman, she strongly advocated on behalf of children looking to be adopted and children's rights in general. People saw her as an inspiration. Then there is woman of God floor. She opened up six churches. She's doing this all at once. Okay. She's got 55 kids. She's a congresswoman. And now she's opening up six churches. She was a pastor saying at every single service, she attracted typically a very wealthy and influential crowd, which brought in around$500 ,000 of offerings every single month. Wow. So she is doing really good on surface, right? She's a celebrity. She's a celebrity.

39:39She's, yeah, she's a very well-known politician, but also a celebrity. She is a gospel singer, signed with a record, produced gospel music. She would have concerts where tens of thousands of people would show up to listen to her sing. I mean, she's internationally recognized for her gospel music. She even did a US tour. She was here in Miami, New York, went to Europe afterwards. She was everywhere. yeah wow then there was a side of her that she called wife floor you know and she would always joke about her marriage she talked about the way that she and anderson fell in love and she would it is kind of like a politician is very polished she said anderson started by having great admiration for me then it became love and then we got married and three months later i gave him 36 children and she would laugh this big hearty laugh and you know that she's told that line before but it was enduring during interviews anderson would look at his wife with so much love so much respect and he would say you know i fell in love at first sight and i knew that to win flora's heart i would have to get involved in the work that she's doing when i married her i knew that i married all the crazy things too i'm assuming he's off age now right he's like 20s eventually like 30s yeah Oh, so this went on for a minute.

40:57Oh, yeah. They were together for like 30 years. So he said that's when he started helping Floor look after the teenagers and kids in need during the weekdays. And then there was Mother Floor. When it came to being the mother of the nation, Floor said a big part of why she wants to help others is she grew up in the favela herself. She said the favela's people are still forgotten, still being ignored. And it was by walking the alleyways of the favela that I saw the harsh reality of children and teenagers being swept up into drug trafficking. That's why she said she adopted, even when she had nothing.

41:32So at this point, she's really rich. But she, back then, she wasn't. She said that she would work all these odd jobs cooking lunches for random security companies, stitching patches for military uniforms. She would eat less food so that she could give the children more food. She would use all of her money to help children. Her grocery receipts were like five feet long all the time and that was her hard-earned money. She barely had money. but she was willing to do it because if it wasn't her the gangs would take the children that's what she said she said it's not easy do you know how hard it is to work 12 hours a day come home change diapers bottle feed infants take kids to the doctor's appointments make sure the kids are staying out of harm's way it's a 24-hour job and then some and she said it would have been so impossible without anderson or even the older kids helping yeah i mean that's you can you have to for someone like that yeah and she had a lot of really touching stories so one night according to floor she made one of her biggest adoptions to date she was in bed exhausted after a long day of looking after the kids and she heard a knock on the door she already has like 20 kids okay she drags herself to the door 37 children staring at her floor was living in a two-bedroom house that was already packed with at least a few dozen people and now 37 kids are looking for a home Where are they going to sleep in this two-bedroom house?

42:49Where are they going to shower? Who's going to pay for the electricity bill, the water bill, the food, the clothing, everything? Floor closed the door briefly to think about it. And her mom, Carmozina and Anderson, looked at her and they said, like, we know better than to tell you no, right? But like, this is dangerous. Technically, it's not just about helping children. These kids, they could have gang associations. This could be a death sentence for you, Floor. They could try to steal from you. There's a potential that this could backfire and you could get hurt. Her mom and her husband, they try to reason with her.

43:20Like, this isn't going to be easy. You can't just let your emotions run your life. Like, think logically. You have to be responsible for that many children. Think of the never-ending stress. Floor said in that moment, it was clear as day what she needed to do. She needed to be Mother Flower. A senator once said about Floor, each adoption that Floor and her husband have made is a story that can be used to write a reference book about what love truly is. Every single kid at one point wanted to be loved and adored by someone like mother Floor, but Floor wanted them to prove their love first. A lot of the adopted kids said that it felt like a constant competition between the adopted siblings to be Floor's favorite.

44:00They had to go through a bunch of strange, unusual rituals and requests to try and get Floor to even notice them. Allegations came out later that Floor, quote, initiated the kids into the family, kind of like a cult. That's an opinion, not a statement of fact. She would have them change into an all-white outfit, allegedly, and she would throw them into a dark room for weeks. Some of the kids stated that they weren't allowed to do anything. The door would open, slide in some raw vegetables and water, and that was it. Does this remind you of anything? The more sinister allegation was that at night, these kids would have to, quote, perform sexually for Floor.

44:36Again, if that sounds familiar to you, that's what Floor's uncle, the origin of the family's supernatural powers. That's what he did to his 15-year-old quote bride. Now, once released from that room, the child would be sorted into their appropriate team. The house was divided. The kids said that there's A team and B team. The A team consists of all the biological kids. Anyone who came out of Florida directly, they were on the A team. And then a few of the adopted kids would find their way in there. These were the gifted kids. The A team is where you wanted to be. They quite literally ran the house.

45:10They had their own bedrooms while the other kids practically slept on top of each other in crammed bunk beds, crammed into tiny, tiny rooms. You could always tell who was on the A-team during mealtimes. Everybody else would get the same diet every single day of like the cheapest foods in stock. But the A-team, they would sit there and eat steak, french fries. Those were the coveted foods. They had a refrigerator filled to the brim with snacks, but it was locked. And only members of the A-team had the key. Even if B-team kids were starving, they wouldn't get any food. Sometimes food would expire and it would be thrown out.

45:45Do the team ever change? So the biological kids always stay on A-team. The adopted kids, a few of them make it onto A-team, but they can easily be swapped. So you have to earn your way there. And keep your way there. Neighbors stated that once Floor's career, career took off some of the flower kids they were really well taken care of new clothes well fed always seen at hair salons spas getting facials massages like they never had to work a day in their lives they lived like nepo babies but the other flower kids the b team they would be seen walking around hungry wearing shoes that were two sizes too big two sizes too small they're constantly working non-stop all day all night to quote pull their own weight and contribute to the family's expenses.

46:28They had to hand over most of their money to Florin Anderson. And if they didn't, it was alleged that they would get beat with a baseball bat. They didn't look like the kids on interviews with Florin Anderson. One of the adopted sons says, when you're against Flor, you're the literal devil. It was team A and team B, the team of good and the team of evil. Some of the kids stopped seeing her as mother Flor, but instead they saw her as like a Venus flytrap. They said, if you've ever seen a Venus flytrap in person, they don't really look scary. If anything, they look intriguing, unassuming, right?

47:01Venus fly traps, they lure the unsuspecting prey by secreting a nectar. It's a sweet nectar. It's like sweetness. And then when that unsuspecting, innocent prey makes their way into the jaws, the Venus fly trap slowly closes, strangling it, suffocating it, digesting it, absorbing it. And when no prey landed on her front doorstep, it said that Floor would go looking for them. Floor didn't just bring in children living on the street with no family. Sometimes she would see a kid on the street and think, okay, that kid's going to be mine. That kid's coming home with me. She would walk up to families on the street and beg them to take their child.

47:37And she would tell them, I promise to give your kid a better life than you can provide. To a degree, it almost seemed like she was trying to lure kids to her house. She would tell all of her other adopted kids, like, go tell your friends how fun it is at Mother Flora's house. Go, go, go. She would have these big arcade games that she would buy at her house. And then they would run off and like tell everybody, there's no rules here. Come, come. So a lot of these kids, they would leave their family, just run away to go live and be adopted by Mother Floor. And it's very strange to think about it.

48:04If these kids were ever running errands with Mother Floor out and about, they would be like, mom, calling on the street. And if their real biological mom sees that interaction, that's just so strange to me that their real biological parents are there. And yet they're being called new names. They're calling another woman mother. It's odd to say the least. In hindsight, to a lot of people in Brazil, it started to feel like her goal, Flora's goal, was to have as many, quote, adopted children as possible, make that her whole identity, her whole branding, and start gaining some sort of adoration, respect, and love from the community.

48:39Not to mention, Flora was a very magnetic character on camera. So once people found out that she had 55 kids, she made informally adopting children her whole personality. Yeah, some of her adopted children came forward later to state that she would come up with these tragic backstories for their lives. They would be introduced on television like, oh, everybody meet Michael. His mom was killed in a plane crash and his dad died tragically in the river and all five siblings were kidnapped by a local serial killer. And they're sitting there like, my family literally lives down the block. Clearly, that's an exaggeration, but she really did go around saying that she fished some of the kids out of the dumpster.

49:17One story that she practically built her whole political career off of was, Flora was walking around the favela when she heard a kid being tortured by a gang. They were going to kill the kid and she knew it. So she rushed over. And one thing that you know about the favelas is you do not mess with the gang. Like that is a death sentence. You don't stand up to them. You, even if you look at them the wrong way, you could be killed. So I was trying to like go down the rabbit hole of favelas and I saw some YouTubers had vlogged in favelas, right? And someone had commented, there is an unspoken rule in favelas.

49:48You don't hit on any woman in a favela because you don't know if that woman is the object of affection by a gang member and even just saying something nice to her could get you killed like that's how easily you can piss off a gang member okay so she she said i'm gonna stop this gang from killing this kid she rushed over saw a little boy 13 years old bag covering his face bloody bruised up there's a gun assault rifle pointed at his head he was about to be executed this is the gang that runs the favela she stands in between the gun the kid and the gang and says absolutely not i don't care who you think you are i'll be damned if you think that you're gonna hurt a kid in front of me she's not scared of the revenge or consequences from the gang yeah that's a whole thing that comes into play later so she said that she put her own life on the line and said you know what But gang, if he messes up and tries to get in your territory, you come after me and you kill me instead then.

50:49I'm going to take responsibility for this kid. This story was a guaranteed crowd mover. She told it with so much passion, even when it was people's fifth time hearing it, they'd be bawling. They'd be crying. And remember the story of the 32 children, the 37 children that showed up at her door? There was more to Flora's over-the-top heroic story. She claimed that the 37 kids who showed up at her door were survivors of a massacre. The massacre of Candelaria was one of the biggest events, like tragic events in Brazil. And it was a targeted attack against children without homes. So more than 60 young kids were outside of a church in central Rio when a group of off-duty police officers opened fire on them, killing eight of them.

51:30Side note, there are conflicting accounts of why police officers would want to go out and commit literal murder against children of all people. There are two main accounts. One stated that the police had gotten into an altercation with some of these kids earlier, and this was revenge. The second theory was that they were paid to clear the city of, quote, street children. Either way, a lot of the children fled from the church terrified, and now they really have nowhere to go. Where is safe? Because if they're outside, who's to say that more off-duty police officers aren't just going to come around shooting them?

51:59They had nobody to talk to. Floor claimed 37 of them showed up at her door that night, and she took in the survivors of this infamous massacre. This story catapulted Floor into mainstream media in Brazil. News networks, TV shows, they all wanted to meet Mother Floor. They wanted to meet her 50 children. They were so curious about so many things, right? How do they live together? Do they take turns showering? How do they have enough food, right? How does one interviewer even ask Floor, how do you remember all their names? And she would laugh and she said, you know, it takes time. I have to stare at their cute little faces and repeat their names.

52:34But to me, that's nothing. You know, saving these children from a life of crime, trafficking and drugs. That's what matters, you know. And she takes a lot of pride in not just adopting infants, but even teenagers who have, according to her, troublesome history, if you will. The whole messaging is she's a savior. Now, Diane, her adopted daughter, said between the adopted kids, there was a feeling that we were being used by Florin Anderson. Florin never gave us affection or love. It was a house full of anguish and resentment. And in interviews, the family seemed perfect. All the kids looked like kids.

53:11They're laughing, happy, carefree. But many of them would later say, it was all an act. We were not happy. We were not well taken care of. Not only that, but there were allegations that they were being sexually assaulted by their own adoptive parents. After the kids were, quote, initiated into the family, Flora would bring them into a secret room that usually none of the other members were allowed into. and some of them claimed that she would perform quote rituals on them. Some of them alleged that they were pretty dirty when they came into the house because they didn't have access to a shower.

53:43So Flora would say, hey, I need to make sure that you're really clean. A lot of the adopted sons said that she would follow them into the bathroom and start assaulting them during the first bath. And if she liked it, then she would continue to assault them throughout this whole process. and if you try to go up against it or say hey i don't think that we should be doing this they would be kicked out of the house allegedly other kids said i don't know about the parental abuse but a lot of the adopted kids were dating each other and it was kind of strange like there was always this very sexual tension in the house between everyone it didn't seem like a family unit it just seemed more like a group of people anyone could eat anyone it was just they thought it was odd.

54:26Even kids as young as 10 were dating each other, and allegedly they claimed that Flora not only allowed this, but encouraged it, dating amongst her adoptive children. It was just strange. A lot of these allegations felt like it's nothing like a real family. Additionally, there were allegations that Flora would round up all the teenage, still underage girls in the house, all of her adopted daughters, and offer them up as sexual playthings for politicians she wanted to impress or worse pastors you know sometimes you have cases where there are no witnesses no personal connections to the victim's life to follow nothing the lead is cold dead end you have nothing else to explore you wish that you had a hundred people who saw something or knew something right but with this case the police said it was the exact opposite problem there are too many people involved too many perspectives experiences biases motivations and when someone is executed like that in front of their home with most of the wounds to their private area, one thing is very clear.

55:22Someone had a very strong, very personal motive. After Anderson's murder, the kids were already divided into groups. The ones who thought nobody in their family had anything to do with the murder. The ones who thought someone in the family killed Anderson. But nobody saw anything. Nobody saw the killer. No. And just like Floor, Anderson had a lot of people who loved him. Anderson is also a very complicated person. I think this case gets really messy because people start accusing each other of basically everything. But before the murder, Anderson was very well loved in his community. And I'm not saying that the allegations of abuse didn't happen because he's loved in his community.

56:00But it just adds another layer of complication. He held his own sermons at church and he was able to really motivate people, connect with them. People said that he was charming. It was endearing that he was also very passionate and dedicated to not only his kids, but to floor. So most community members, they had a positive association with Anderson. but some of his kids, they did not. Some of the kids stated, Anderson is not the person you think he is. They said Anderson's only goal in life was control. He wanted to control Floor, their children, and especially their money. Some of the kids said, you would think that Floor is the one in charge because she's technically the congresswoman and like the gospel singer, right?

56:37All of that, the mother of 50 children, right? Anderson is the one that's making all the calls. He's got the brains, right? And as much as the kids despised him, they do give him credit. They're like, you know what? he is the reason that Flora is successful in the first place. Some kids stated that to Anderson, we were all just numbers. Like we're a business to him. Adopted kids would grow up, move out or run away. And once the numbers started going down in the house, he would go and fetch new kids to bring in. He's not really providing love. This is just to maintain their image of being the adoptive parents of the nation.

57:08They said allegedly he would beat the shit out of the kids. And the whole mother Flora branding was the only thing that mattered to him. So to the police, once they start digging, initially there's a lot of suspects. Maybe Floor and Anderson were targeted by political opponents because, you know, they're controversial people. Perhaps maybe it was a gang then because Floor had been so vocal about how dangerous the favelas had been and how the gangs are like kidnapping children and doing horrendous things with them. Maybe they felt insulted that she's undermining their control there. It's not a far-fetched theory.

57:40It could be political. It could be gang related or it could be religious. Maybe it's a religious opponent who just thought that she's dabbling in dark magic allegedly while running six churches and they wanted her gone. Or was it someone closer to the family? Maybe someone even in the family. An expert would state that because Anderson's private areas were targeted, quote, there was a goal here to destroy everything there, an indication of sexual nature, rage, and to destroy everything that was there. A few of the adopted daughters would claim that Anderson would nonstop try to essay them. One of them would later tell officers, you know, Anderson deserved death.

58:16It seemed like a lot of people had motive, but only one person had a whole lot to gain. Congresswoman Floor. She was questioned about the night of her husband's murder and things just were not adding up. She denied having gone to a sex club that night by stating that a public figure like myself, I would never end up at a place like this. even if she had gone there at least she went with her husband right instead of someone else's husband which is kind of an odd way of trying to convince someone that you weren't there but regardless she stated that she had actually gone to the beach again we don't even know if this is true if they had maybe gone to the beach after the sex club but this is this is florist's version of events and she claims it was just the beach something that they would do often to get alone time away from the kids so they're strolling around the beach holding hands giggling like their teenagers in love.

59:07And then in this wild, spontaneous, romantic gesture, she said Anderson ran up to a chair on the beach, climbed on top, opened his arms, and screamed out loud for everyone to hear, I love you, Fleur de Lis, I love you. People were looking at him like he was insane, but she was just smiling because, you know, their romance was so intoxicating. She said they found a quiet spot, made love in the moonlight, then strolled around a while before making their way back to the car. This is when things start getting a bit strange. Flora said on their way home, she noticed two motorcycles tailing their car.

59:42They were driving extremely slow, which is alarming. So there are a lot of motorcycles in Brazil, but they're usually all rushing to get like to deliveries to their next destination. These motorcycles usually don't stay behind cars. They'll weave in between cars to get ahead. But there were two motorcycles just going below speed limit behind them, not moving in the same direction as them. She thought it was weird. She started paying attention to it because, you know, they live in a city where there was an uptick in crime rates. But after a little while, the motorcycles took a turn and vanished.

1:00:13So she didn't think anything of it.

1:00:264 a.m., they get to the house. The streets are quieter. No motorcycles in sight. Her husband said that he wanted to work in the car a little bit longer. So she went in herself to check on the kids. Her grandson Ramon was still awake and she was busy scolding him when she starts hearing the gunshots. Now she stated that originally she wasn't really that freaked out. Gunshots are not that uncommon in this neighborhood. She went back to talking to her kids but then a few things started popping up in her mind. She said one, why were there so many gunshots fired? It sounded like at least six. Two, why did it sound so close and so loud?

1:00:58And three, where is Anderson? She said she started to realize that Anderson was in trouble because, and I quote, because my husband is always concerned about my safety. With everything, any sort of difficult situation, the first person he'd look for to help was me. Me. Meaning, if there were gunshots fired nearby, Anderson would have run up to check up on Floor. I see. That's when she realized, oh my God, Anderson is probably in trouble. Floor said she believed that this is a robbery gone wrong. The motorcyclists were somehow following them home, hoping to rob them, but instead they were confronted by Anderson, killed him, got scared, and ran away.

1:01:33She later said, I went on a date with my husband, just a date, and it ended like this. It ended with him losing his life while protecting the house, protecting the family. What he tried to do was to... Unfortunately, he opened the gate to the garage and he tried to stop them from entering the house. He sacrificed his life to protect the family. That's what she said. Nobody, not even authorities, wanted to be suspicious of her, right? Because she's supposed to be grieving the most. But the math was not mathing. First of all, the dogs. The couple owned two big dogs. I think they lived in the yard and they were notorious for barking at strangers that passed by.

1:02:11Literally a neighbor walks past the gate. The dogs are losing their mind barking. They went around asking for neighbors if they had heard dogs barking before the gunshots. They all responded no. If there were multiple strangers tailing floor from their date to their house and they showed up to shoot Anderson, the dogs would have at least barked, right? That didn't make any sense. They examined the dogs and neither of them showed signs of being drugged. So sometimes robbers will throw treats with drugs to make them, you know, mellow out so that they won't bark. But none of that. The dogs were fine.

1:02:42Huh. Could it really be robbery then? Robbery gone wrong? I mean, this doesn't necessarily cast suspicion on floor. It's just that the police think the robbery theory just doesn't make sense. But they still have to check out all the leads. The police pulled CCTV footage from the cameras on the street that showed Florian Anderson in the car driving home. No footage showed the actual murder itself, but there were some intriguing things that were found. The police were able to track the couple most of their way home, and there were never two motorcycles around them. Why would Florian lie about something like that?

1:03:13And why would she push the theory that the motorcyclists followed them to rob them, but then ended up killing Anderson. To the public, the couple seemed madly in love, like little teenagers. But some of Flora's children would later state to the police, the wealthier the couple became, the more their relationship started to show cracks. Some kids stated Anderson had full control over the money, and that was a big pain point for Flora. The feeling being that Flora seemed like the type of personality that wanted to spend all of her money. Anderson wanted to make sure that didn't happen and save a lot of it, maybe for himself, maybe for them, maybe for the kids?

1:03:48Who knows? Kids said that Floor complained that the trade-off was unfair. She's like, I am the one singing. Why? Why is he controlling the money? And just to give you context, we don't know the relationship behind closed doors, but some of the older kids reported that the money wasn't even split that unfairly. It was split 60-40. Anderson would take 60%, Floor would take 40%, but Anderson paid all the bills. So he paid for everything, the house, the rent, grocery bills, school fees for the kids, transportation costs. He funded all the kids. That's why he took 60. And he was the manager behind everything.

1:04:21Like Flora literally was just like the charismatic figure. And all of Flora's 40 % was just spending money. But there are unsubstantiated reports that their relationship was getting really weird because of this. And Anderson started doing some questionable things. So if a new teenage girl came in, this is an allegation, by the way, right? If a new teenage girl came in to be adopted, Anderson would ask Floor if he could assault her. Floor almost always said yes. Another allegation states that when an adopted daughter came to Floor terrified that Anderson was trying to essay her, Floor would tell her, if the wife is aware that her husband is looking for someone else, it is not a sin.

1:05:02If that's true, that means Floor doesn't see this as essay, but just as regular cheating. I mean, that doesn't make sense. but following that logic maybe Fleur was over it maybe she was over him cheating and taking her money and controlling the finances but would she really have someone kill her husband like that's what the police are thinking she could just take control over her finances or divorce the guy right she can't divorce him it goes against her image of being a family woman a mother of 55 children a single mom of 55 children just doesn't have that good of a ring to it in the political sphere if she divorces him she risks her political and religious careers both of which are indirectly bringing in a lot of money especially um being a pastor of six churches yeah so going by that theory if anderson is killed floor will only gain more love and admiration because she suffered a tragedy so the motive there is one police you know they've got their suspicions about floor but the public is still rallying around her so for a lot of the public floor was basically an angel that descended from heaven to take care of the unfortunate and one of the most famous movies at the time in brazil was based on flora's life so they're thinking how can she be capable of killing someone no one even suspected her initially the movie was called florida lee i mean one word is enough to create change that was the tagline of the movie just objectively speaking the movie was insane it had some of the most famous brazilian actors and actresses in it and most of them worked on the movie for free they volunteered they didn't care about the money they stated they thought that Flora's life story should be told.

1:06:37And I mean, one of the main actresses, she was like a, you know, the soccer player Neymar, like an ex-girlfriend of his, like these are star studded cast. Like you're talking about, yeah, a lot of insane people. Now, if the police were suspecting her of anything bad, the public just thought it's probably because they can't do their jobs. They can't protect these kids in the favelas and they hate the fact that she's shedding light on the situation to the whole world. It's embarrassing them that she can do their jobs better than they can. So the day of Anderson's funeral, hundreds of people showed up from all over Brazil to show and pay their respects.

1:07:11They just felt so heartbroken, not just for Anderson's giant family, but for Flora. You know, they had been together for 30 years and now she's a widow, a single mom. She's got to stay strong for 55 kids. So when Flora arrived, the crowd forced a human corridor for her to pass through. She had a a white jacket and big sunglasses over her eyes. She was like in the thick of grief. It looked like people were holding her back from flinging her body onto Anderson's casket. Some people said that she looked like she was going to faint at any point. But halfway through the funeral, it got a little weird.

1:07:45Flora disappeared and reappeared in a new set of clothing. A literal outfit change in the midst of a funeral and she went up on stage to sing. I don't think we can dictate how people grieve or show their respects. And I know that a lot of artists will use music as an outlet for their emotions, but I think people were a little bit taken aback because the funeral was like two days after Anderson's murder. So it was very fresh. Yeah. Minutes after Anderson was buried, Flora and her kids, they packed into the car and they started driving off out of the funeral. Funeral goers were waving bye to them when they see a line of cop cars pull up to stop Flora's family car.

1:08:22And at first people just assumed, okay, the police probably want to escort the family home. Maybe her life is in danger because they haven't caught the killers yet, right? It's good to know that the police are trying to protect the family. But instead, the most chaotic scene unfolds. All hell breaks loose. Two people are dragged out of the family car on the way out of the funeral and two family members are arrested for Anderson's murder. Flora's biological son, Flavio, and Florin Anderson's adopted son, Lucas. They were both arrested for the murder of Anderson and the media went nuts. The biological son is from the previous husband?

1:09:00Yes. Earlier in the investigation, authorities had asked each kid where they were the night of Anderson's murder. Lucas, one of the older kids, stated, I was partying all night, got home really late. But when the officers went through CCTV footage outside a floor in Anderson's home, there was Lucas arriving home minutes before the murder happened. He was dropped off by a car, ran inside the house carrying a black backpack. Then he ran out not too long after without his backpack. authorities confronted him about his lie and he just responded the backpack right i forgot about the backpack i just wanted to drop off some laundry the police were confused but you don't live there anymore you left the party that you were at grabbed the backpack of dirty clothes and dropped them off at 3 a.m at a house that you don't live at anymore he didn't have a good answer to it police tried to piece together a potential motive for lucas and all of the other adopted kid said he was one of the more quote problematic kids you know i don't really like that term but a lot of the family members said that he had a temper he was very aggressive he was always involved in some gang activity before he was adopted and he promised florin anderson that he would stop but he never did he would show up at home bloody bruised up anderson was constantly beating him telling him if you don't stop like dealing with these gangs i'm not going to keep a criminal in the house we're going to kick you out one piece of evidence that really intrigued the investigators was Lucas had texted Floor not too long before the murder.

1:10:21If Anderson comes to me and dares to lay a hand on me, I'll end him. In hindsight, what he texted is really bad. Authorities consider this clear intent to kill, but some some could argue that it sounds like a teenager that's upset. Best case, it's a wounded ego and it's not a threat. Worst case, it's a threat on Anderson's life. Police went with the latter. But while the authorities were searching the house looking for evidence against Lucas, they found a gun in Flavio's room, the biological son, the murder weapon. The murder weapon had been wiped of fingerprints, but the police knew it was Flavio's because A, it was in his room and B, there was a single pubic hair on the gun and the pubic hair belonged to Flavio.

1:11:02So they arrest the two family members. And this next part gets really unhinged, but both sons were placed in the same interrogation room, seated right next to each other. and the officer presented them with a gun and said, Have you ever seen this gun, Lucas? Because we think this gun was in that backpack that you dropped off at the house minutes before Anderson was killed. Have you seen it before? Lucas said, Yes, I have. Flavio sent me a message with a picture of the gun a while ago. He said it was his new gun. Okay, Flavio, explain that. Flavio said, I only bought the gun for protection reasons.

1:11:36I wanted to protect my family. From who? From Lucas. he went on to say while sitting right next to Lucas that Lucas was very aggressive and violent towards the family and Flavio was terrified that something was going to happen so he bought the gun. Okay, and how did you buy this gun? Because it's an illegally purchased black market gun. Oh, I bought it through Lucas. He went on to explain how Lucas took him to see some people that were going to sell him the gun because he had connections and the logic is just fascinating. Flavio asked Lucas to help him buy a gun so he could protect himself and his family from Lucas.

1:12:12But Flavio continued. He said Lucas even helped him pay for the gun. He paid$700. He pitched it in. Lucas said, no, I didn't. Everybody knows I'm broke. I don't have$700. And then out of nowhere during this interrogation, if you can even call it that, Flavio admits to shooting Anderson. Even Lucas looks at him in shock. And I don't know if it's shock because he just found out or if it's shock from the fact that like, dude, why would you admit that right now? I don't know. Like, what did he say? He's like, I shot Anderson. And the police are like, why did you shoot Anderson? Flavio went on to explain how Anderson was essaying not only his sisters, but his nieces.

1:12:49So Simone, his biological sister, his like blood sister, has a bunch of kids. And now he's claiming that Anderson was even trying to assault his grandchildren, I guess. The family tree is very complicated. Both Lucas and Flavio were thrown into prison. Flavio would later say, wait, wait, wait, I take it all back. I was coerced by the police to say that. But the damage was done. Investigators were going to investigate the claims and relationships between all the family members until this like house of cards basically crumbled. There were so many kids in the house that all had motive to either kill Anderson or help Lucas and Flavio kill Anderson.

1:13:29A year before his murder, there was an inside joke between the adopted kids that you don't eat food at Floor's house. in 2018 anderson went to the er at least six times due to mysterious stomach problems all six plus times was immediately after drinking or eating something that had been made in flor's kitchen and it was a bit strange he went from wearing pant sizes that were extra large to a medium within a few months but some of the adopted children felt like something was off so they started taking bites out of anderson's food and they too got very very ill and then marcy one of the adopted daughters was caught in the act.

1:14:04She's the one that said Anderson deserved death. She was seen mixing white powder into Anderson's food. Now, Marcy had a lot of problems in the family. She had recently been caught stealing a thousand dollars from Anderson and she was told if she ever did it again, she would be kicked out for good. So now police are thinking maybe she helped. Maybe she snapped and wanted Anderson gone so that she could steal more cash. Her search history had things like bad guys, assassins, where to find someone badass, where to find killers. So was Marcy also involved? Then there's Daniel. So Daniel is the biological son of Florin Anderson.

1:14:43Police found out early on in their investigation that he wasn't actually their biological son. So there's two problems with this revelation, okay, if you will. One, Daniel didn't know for the longest time that he was not actually Florin's biological son. And two, Daniel was kidnapped as baby. The alleged story goes as follows. Flora and Anderson really wanted to have a biological kid together. They start trying to get pregnant, but it's not working out. And because timing is everything, one of their friends tell them about an 18 year old girl who's going to give birth soon. And she's looking for someone to adopt her baby.

1:15:12Flora and Anderson rushed to the hospital to be the first ones to take the baby from their mother and the 18 year old biological mom. She said, I don't have what it takes to raise this kid, but I still want to know this child. She said, I will only give you this baby if you promise that I can see this baby once in a while. They said, of course. They ripped Daniel from his mother's arms and then never saw her again. Went back on their promise. That baby is Daniel. So maybe Daniel found out that he was lied to and kidnapped. And maybe he snapped and helped kill Anderson. So the police are thinking, Lucas and Flavia are definitely involved.

1:15:48But what if there's other kids involved? Then there was Simone, Flora's biological daughter, and the ex-girlfriend of Anderson. She's both Anderson's ex-girlfriend and his stepdaughter. She said this about Anderson. Even at a young age when we were dating, he was rude and arrogant. He was clingy and didn't want me to play with my classmates. He was always searching for me, came into my house. He's just disturbed. Simone did not think highly of her ex-boyfriend slash father. But the police were most intrigued by her Google searches. she had googled how to buy cyanide easy to buy lethal poison to kill people and when the police asked her about it she said my friend's dog was sick so the dog had cancer we were trying to put the dog out of its misery so they're investigating every single kid yeah checking their search histories and because it seems like a lot of people are not telling the truth it seems like out of the 55 people we don't even know how many people are involved so the question is how many the kids are involved.

1:16:50And question number two is, who put the kids up to it? Was it really just the kids acting on their own? Or could it be mother floor? Simone also told them that Anderson was essaying people constantly telling the daughters that they had hot bodies. He would come into their rooms at night and pleasure himself in the dark while trying to touch them. It was a lot. It was a lot. The investigation into Anderson's murder would last three years and would involve police interrogating hundreds of people. And it would ultimately end in the arrest and sentencing of 11 different people. Most of them being Flower family members, if you will.

1:17:26Now, I don't want to get too into the legal nitty gritty of the case. And I'm going to try to simplify the trial as best as possible so it's easy to follow. But there are so many moving parts, so many testimonies, so many changing of stories. Flora would argue that she's innocent. Her husband was killed. She had nothing to do with it. But now, now that you bring it up, her husband was an abusive husband who was probably essaying the daughters. So if someone killed him, it was probably because of his crimes to begin with. Then you had Floor's protector kids who said that Floor had nothing to do with this.

1:17:55And they were the ones that plotted to kill Anderson all on their own to protect their mother. Then there are the kids who were arrested and they were now saying, hey, listen, Floor's the evil one. I don't even know what I'm doing in jail right now. So let's start with Floor. she was voted out of congress before her arrest and she was pissed she told her peers you're gonna put your head up your ass and you're gonna regret condemning someone who hasn't been judged yet floor begged the public to see her innocence and she said for those who think i killed my husband i'm asking you to give me a reason why i would do that i didn't gain anything from his death i only lost and before the trial was in full swing floor still had a lot of supporters her instagram comments were filled like god will always be with her and she won't ever stop giving a hand to those who need it, stuff like that.

1:18:40But once the trial started, public opinion started shifting. Many of Flora's adopted children started testifying against her, the ones that were not arrested for Anderson's murder. One adopted son stated that after Anderson's funeral, Flora was shouting, I'm free. Mizzelle, one of adopted, one of the adopted kids stated that for the past year, Flora had been complaining about Anderson and actively thinking about ways to get rid of him. And when he told her mom, just divorce him, she said, absolutely not. They preached at church about the importance of a strong family unit and how sacred marriages, they would be unthinkable.

1:19:18She responded that she could not scandalize the name of God like that. And when Flora even found out that Mazzel was talking to the police for this trial, one of the adopted son, one of the biological children went up to him and said, you know, snitches die, right? He said he was very scared for his life. And he has not been in contact with Mother Flora or the rest of the family since then. And if you feel like this is turning into a he said, she said situation, text messages were uncovered where Flora literally told Lucas, her adopted son that's in prison, I will give you$2 ,000 after the job is done.

1:19:54You can pretend it's a robbery, but only Anderson can be targeted, nobody else. In another text message to a different adopted son, Flora said, let's put an end to this. Help me, I'm asking you. No, I'm begging you, Andre. How much longer do we have to put up with this scumbag in our lives? Andre responded, Mom, I got your back. There's not much I can do, but I'm on your side. She responded, Yes, there is something you can do. It's simple. I'll explain it to you. Help me focus to end this once and for all. One week and we can put an end to this story. Later, Marcy, the adopted daughter who was trying to poison Anderson, allegedly, she would declare that she stole her mom's phone and sent those messages to her adopted brothers.

1:20:33Simone and Marcy, they really wanted to defend their mom. But another kid said, yeah, no, we're telling you, nothing happened in that house without Floor's permission. And it's not in the sense of, what if she intervened and prevented her kids from killing Anderson? No, because this isn't coming from Simone or Marcy. The number one person on Floor's mind is always Floor, without question. Floor argued, I didn't know about any of this. I didn't know about the abuse going on in my home. I loved my husband too much. He was everything to me. He was my life. I had a suspicion once concerning our daughter Kelly, but I didn't want to believe that he was capable of that sort of thing.

1:21:12He abused me, yes, but I didn't want to believe that in my home he was doing the same thing to other women. Saying, if the kids killed Anderson because of the abuse, she didn't know about it. But in the end, Flora was found guilty of all charges. She was sentenced to 50 years in prison for first degree murder. Flavio, the biological son who is believed to have committed the actual shooting, was sentenced to 33 years in prison. Simone, Flora's biological daughter and Anderson's ex-girlfriend, was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Lucas, the adopted son who dropped - Wait, who was that? Simone, the ex-girlfriend of Anderson.

1:21:46They think she is a part of it. That's why she got 30. That she was like, you know, conspiring with them to commit the murder. Now, Lucas, the adopted son who dropped off the backpack, presumably with the gun inside the night of the murder, he cooperated with the police and got a lesser sentence of seven years. Marcy and two of the other adopted kids, they were acquitted of all accusations. Four other siblings were absolved of the murder charges, but they're still facing time for criminal conspiracy. And I think the saddest part, really any story that involves children, typically, is that children are always the indirect or direct victims in those stories.

1:22:21Floor had over 50 children. And just to sum it up, because I think this case is so complicated, There's so many things. There's so many other little factors of why people really dislike or support Floor, which is interesting, and how they feel about Anderson. There was a netizen who wrote about this case, and I think this sums up the public opinion. So this is not my opinion, but the general public opinion. Although it wasn't definitively concluded that Anderson was capable of sexual abuse, it was confirmed that there was a huge divide in their family. There were favorites. If it's not sexual abuse, some sort of abuse from both Floor and Anderson.

1:22:55It's clear Flora had reason to kill her husband. It's also clear that she had most of her children under her thumb, whom she probably used to commit this horrible murder, then threw them under the bus when it was convenient for her. She also groomed Anderson probably since he was 14 years old, then married him. If she were a man, we'd all be calling her a predator. A lot of things can coexist all at once. So I think it's just, it's really complicated. I do think that Anderson's story gets lost along the way, also because of the allegations of abuse, which I'm not saying aren't true. I feel like they're unsubstantiated right now, but I do think that there were a lot of bad, weird things going on in that house.

1:23:37And if Anderson wasn't the one committing abuse, he likely knew it was happening because there was some sort of abuse going on in that house and it's very clear. But it's just very complicated. I think though the only thing we know is the children since the very beginning, they were the ultimate victims in this case. In one interview, Floor said, if you ask me, Floor, what do you love doing the most in the world? I will always answer being a mother because by being a mother, you're receiving way more than you're giving. There are two ways you can interpret that statement. That could mean she feels so fulfilled by being a mom that she is receiving more emotional fulfillment in the process than giving or that she enjoys receiving so much love and attention and praise from these children.

1:24:20is she altruistic or is she selfish there was an incident before flora's arrest that i find telling so flora had a new boyfriend before their arrest and trial by the way and before the arrest because she knew she was getting arrested she was spending time with her boyfriend at home getting her hair and nails done but this is after the husband died yeah she got a new boyfriend yeah okay she was getting botox injections she was getting her hair and makeup done and someone was blow drying her hair while she screamed, I'm not a criminal. I didn't kill anyone. I don't know. It's just very telling that she's, yeah.

1:24:53And now in a Brazilian prison, there is a mother-daughter duo sharing a cell, Floor and Simone. Both of them have been charged with the murder of the same man. Simone was found guilty of killing her ex-boyfriend, Anderson. Floor was found guilty of killing her ex-husband, Anderson. Both women shared a lover once, and now they both share a prison cell. wow the only time they don't is when flora's new husband comes in for conjugal visits because she married her boyfriend alan we don't even know when they first started dating that's another thing that people have suspicions about because flora actually knew her new husband while she was still married to anderson and there's even a photo of the three of them together so that could have added more motive for flora to want anderson gone to this day flora maintains her innocence and she said, it's clear that they wanted to arrest me at any cost.

1:25:42They want to make me the mastermind of this murder. That's why I'm asking for help outside of Brazil. I'm begging for help. Floor told a journalist she wanted help from an American TV show called Deadly Recall. It's a true crime show hosted by a celebrity detective and she told the journalist, this is who I want to help me. I found him on the Discovery Channel. Most people think Floor's mom predicted Flora's dad's death in the car accident. And now Flora has predicted her husband's death, but in a murder. How does she predict? Because if it's murder, you know it's coming. Oh, I see, I see. That was the very intense case of Flora.

1:26:20There's a lot of other things that it's just, it's so, so complicated that it, yeah. There's so many other statements, so many other little things that Flora would have said, but let me know your thoughts. What are your thoughts on this one? Do you think that all of the kids were involved? Were they manipulated by Floor? You really think Floor had no idea that any of this was going on? I think it's so crazy that she was able to fool everyone, the whole country for that long. That brought her to that level of admiration from the whole country. And then they eventually all crumbled down, right? But that's insane.

1:26:55The amount, the success that she achieved for that long. Terrifying. Nobody knew until now. people loved her I mean she had some of the like biggest celebrities politicians she met the first wife of Brazil and they were friendly with each other judges supported her everybody supported her nobody saw a thing nobody suspected a thing yeah and that just goes to show that children really are just unheard and uncared for and even America so it's not trying to point fingers at any other country but just generally in the world so leave your thoughts in the comments and please stay safe. I'll see you guys on Wednesday for the main episode.