#342: Korean College Student Forces 100 Girls To Mutilate Themselves On Camera LIVE For His Chatrooms

27:39They could render backups of a target device. If the target device uses iCloud backup, they could acquire all the content from the iCloud backup as well as iMessage backups. Basically, a lot of messages can be seen. You should function at any given moment using iMessage that the FBI could very likely see your text messages. But with Telegram, they do not release any message content. They provide no contact information, even in active criminal investigations. They will only provide an IP address and a phone number in confirmed terrorist investigations. That's it. The founders stated, Telegram will stand for freedom and privacy.

28:18Privacy is not for sale and human rights should not be compromised. There is also a self-destruct feature. You know how in Snapchat, when someone sees something, it disappears? You could do that on Telegram, but you can do it on a large scale. And another thing with Telegram is you can host massive chat rooms. Chat rooms with over 200 ,000 people. And they let you share very large files. You could upload videos onto these chat rooms. Telegram, if used for the wrong purposes, can turn into Gotham. it can turn into a digital lawless land where you can distribute criminal material at a large scale very quickly.

28:59And before the doctor's rooms, there was God God and the nth rooms on Telegram. The nth rooms were the original torture CP slavery forums that would go on to inspire the rooms like the doctor's rooms to be made. But just like the doctor, nth room did not just consist of one Telegram chat room. The name nth rooms is used to describe a collection of rooms created by God, God. And in the beginning, there were only eight rooms. But with more demand, with more supply with new victims, more chat rooms would pop up. Another nth room, then two, then four, then 16. The nth rooms were like opening a door into this long spiral staircase into the depths of hell.

29:36And you start walking down the staircase, just spiraling into the void. And you start opening these doors. And every door that you open, there's new people, new girls, new victims that are forced to perform for a camera. and then when you think that you've gotten to the bottom that it cannot possibly get darker that there's not another level the spiral staircase winds even more and a new door appears and then another and then another in math the letter n can represent a sequence of numbers that continues into infinity so eventually the term enthrum becomes an umbrella term for any online chat room with explicit torture content it almost becomes like the kleenex effect you know it's like can you pass me the kleenex even if you don't have the brand kleenex next to you you would pass me a tissue so the anthroms they became synonymous with cp can you give me a link to the anthroms it's basically can you give me a link to an illegal telegram chat room and because it's the anthroms you never knew when a new one was going to pop up it was late into the evening when Yuna gets a notification on her phone.

30:43She has been invited to a chat room on Telegram and she thought it was kind of odd, but she clicked the link and a video starts instantly playing. And all these messages start coming in. Ding, ding. The messages are flooding the chat. She's being like spammed with screenshots from the video, comments, even GIFs that are playing on a loop. Yuna quickly mutes her phone in case her family can hear from the living room, but the screen keeps lighting up with more notifications. She's staring at the phone and it's a video of herself. And all she can hear very lightly in the background are her own screams.

31:15She's staring at a video from one of the worst nights of her life. A few weeks ago, she had been attacked in a grocery store parking lot. A man had dragged her to a dark corner where nobody could see or hear her and essayed her while he filmed the whole thing. That video was somehow now in a chat room on Telegram filled with hundreds of people reacting and responding to it. her heart starts racing her stomach is dropping like who who are these people how do they even get this video two new messages are sent into the chat rooms the first is a picture of her front door the second her full home address and then a third message appears yuna right go to the black van in the alleyway outside your house or we release this video to the public yuna went because her body went into autopilot mode.

32:07I mean, to protect her from what's about to happen. She snuck out because I think a lot of social context is needed. I think even in the US, when revenge explicit videos are posted, it ruins your life. It ruins everything. But in Korea, it's a little bit worse. It's a little bit more conservative over there. I mean, this is going to affect job opportunities. You're not going to be seen as a victim. You know when outside, it's pitch black. and in the alleyway, she does not recognize the man's face in front of the black van, but he recognized her. He grabbed her by the arms, shoved her inside the van, then he climbed in the back.

32:41He pulled out his phone, pointed it at Yuna. Say hi to the camera. Yuna tried to cover her face from the camera, but the guy in the backseat handed the phone to a second man. He was sitting in the driver's seat, and he kept the camera pointed directly at her. The man in the back takes off his coat, and he proceeds to R-word her as the driver is filming the whole thing. she thought that he was live streaming because he kept he kept laughing at the comments or maybe he was laughing at her we don't know and throughout the assault the driver demanded what are you answer me what are you and she'd be forced to say i'm god god's slave when they were done they threw her out of the van and they sped off and that new video was now circulating in the chat rooms yuna sat in her room while her phone buzzed on the table i mean everybody is commenting on this video, what they liked, what they didn't like, what they wanted next time.

33:32Humiliate her. I want to see her lick a toilet. We should have done more guys, like 20 at once. Ah, I want to R-word her too. But Yuna could not leave the chat room. She had to stay because she knows that soon enough, God-God is going to send another order for her. Whoever God-God is, she doesn't even know God-God, but she knows people like God-God and they never stop. And she knew that if she didn't do what they wanted, if she didn't comply, he would release these videos. Even though she's a victim in both videos, in this society, it would ruin her life. But what Yuna didn't know at that point was God God had planned this for her since the very beginning.

34:11He had seen Yuna's social media profile and he made up in his mind that he wanted her as a slave. So he ordered her to be attacked and recorded. The random attack in the grocery store, the filming of the essay, it was all part of God God's plan. They were all planned by God God. He had personally hand selected her to be his victim. And she also didn't know at this point that she was not his only victim. $675 is a lot of money, I think, but it's also not a lot of money. I mean, it is and it's not. It's a round trip flight from New York City to LA for one person during a very busy season. It's also barely half of the US's average rent per month, which is around$1 ,400.

34:54But that is how much God God made from running the anthrooms. Collectively, one of the biggest, largest marketplaces for CP and torture videos on Telegram, he made$675, period. In total? In total. How long was it? Like over a year. In total. There were originally eight anthrooms, the originals. So God God and an accomplice of his, they would advertise these eight rooms on Twitter. And at the start, they really only had a few people coming in, only a few moderators, a few victims, and a few anonymous guys that wanted access. Tickets would start at less than$8 each per chat room, cheaper than a movie ticket, cheaper than movie theater popcorn.

35:38But that's the point. God, God never really cared about the money. He was here mainly for the torture, for the creation of these videos. He was the creator of it all. So while other chat rooms, they had straight to the point welcoming messages like let's rape. If you entered the nth rooms, you would have kind of a disclaimer of sorts. God God would write, these slaves didn't follow instructions and escaped. So you may do with them as you please. And I assure you, I do not leak videos of slaves who comply with all their given orders. Signed, God God. It was weird. It's almost like he's saying that they wronged him in this game and now they need to be punished.

36:15That's why he's doing this. It's all a game to him. So let the games begin. Most of God God's videos were about three minutes long and in just one hour, 50 to 60 photos or videos of girls could be sent into the chat rooms. There's a lot. I mean, the list of acts that they would be forced to perform was viciously long. They were in almost every single video on all fours. They were forced to bark like a dog, sneak into men's restrooms, naked and film themselves doing things to themselves not in the stall but like in the middle hoping that no one's going to come in in black sharpie they'd have to write on themselves slave itch personal toilet personal body parts a trademark of god god's abuses that the doctor would later adopt so this is something that he learned from god god when god god got bored of having all those words on the victims he would have them carve slave into their skin with knives Again, something that the doctor learned from him.

37:11That was the majority of the videos. Every week, you would see the torture escalate to become more humiliating, more violent. It went from writing God God slave on their bodies to carving it and then piercing their skin with needles, including their chest. For God God, he'd started with just the very specific part of a woman's chest to be pierced. And to do that at home is very painful. To do that to yourself is very painful. but it is something that is done for some people who like it as like a stylistic choice. But of course, these girls, they didn't have a choice. They're victims in this. They were being forced.

37:46But he felt like that wasn't enough. So he wanted them to take a sewing needle and a thread and pierce it through their breast tissue and flesh and then pull it out the other end. These orders would be sent to multiple middle and high schoolers. He'd have them grab their sewing kits and pick the largest needle, thread it with string and grab a chunk of their flesh and just string through like he just wanted to see yeah while they would say i'm god god slave and their hands would be shaking i mean they would plunge it into their flesh and it wasn't just like a prick or a flu shot they would have to thread the needle in and out of their flesh as if they're giving themselves stitches for a wound that doesn't even exist they're creating a wound and people who have gotten sutures without numbing, they say that even the needle, when it goes into your skin, it feels like you're slicing your skin away with a knife.

38:42Some sources say that God got demanded that they used a light colored thread so that he could see that they went deep enough, so much so that the thread would turn deep red. Sometimes after tunneling through the flesh, the needle would come out on the other end and then the red thread would follow and he would force them to take off the needle. The thread is still in their body and he would get them to get the two sides of the thread, tie it to a heavy object and let it just slowly stretch their skin and it would be excruciatingly painful. He called it the skin stretching torture. So it's like if you grabbed a piece of your belly and then threaded needle through it and then tie But yeah, I mean, I mean, the best way I could describe it is if you were to get a belly button piercing and then hang something heavy right off of it.

39:34At the height of the anthrooms, God God had personally distributed 3 ,762 videos. This is not including the video shared by other users. To God God, this is not a business or a day job or even a way to make money. It was his hobby. And if nobody wanted to play with him, he would make them play. God God would later say himself that he started the anthrooms so he could relieve his stress. And I guess viewers could tell that he's not here for the money. Because during the peak of the anthrooms, they were the gold standard in the Telegram chat room world. Watchers could be in every other chat room that was filled with hundreds of heinous videos and they would still want to get a link into the anthrooms.

40:12God God was to these depraved people a legend. And that's when God God decides, I'm going to retire. I'm going to disappear at the height of the anthromes. Nobody knew why. He contacted one of his victims out of the blue and said, all of my actions were part of a game. I'm not trying to ask for forgiveness or asking you to not report it to the police. I don't care. I'm just contacting you to let you know that all the behaviors that you engaged in were just part of a fun game for me. People that I posted on the anthrom was because they ran away from the game and I had to give them a punishment, you know?

40:45After allegedly ordering a girl to slice off her breast, or that part of the breast, yeah, God God left one last message for her before he vanished. And he told the victim, well, that was fun, but I have to go now. I have to go play Maple Story, which is notoriously a game that younger people play. He would kind of make it seem like he's in high school and nobody knew if it was true. He would log off for months. He handed control to the anthromes over to a man called the Watchman, and then he vanished. God, God was gone. For now.

41:30Once you reach your genetic height, there really is only one way to grow taller. You got to break your legs. Leg lengthening surgery is they're either going to break your calf bones or break your thigh bones. You pay doctors$100 ,000 if it's purely cosmetic, they'll knock you out and they'll, with a bone saw, they'll break your bones in half, clean, like a dismemberment. It takes a lot of energy for them to break it in half, by the way. The thigh bone especially is the strongest bone in the entire body, one of the strongest bones. It can withstand two grand pianos stacked on top of it and it also makes it one of the most excruciating injuries out there.

42:07One man said you would choose death over bone fracture in your thighs. The pain fries your nervous system. You feel like you have two knees in one leg. I mean, it's so painful, but it gets worse. After they break your legs, you get a thick metal mechanical rod drilled into the center core of your leg bone, running the length of your leg. Like those hot dog, like pigs in a blanket. Do you know what I'm talking about? it's like a hot dog and then it's wrapped in dough but the hot dog is the metal rod and the dough is your thigh bone they drill it into your bone oh inside inside bone like your bone marrow yeah marrow area they put a little yeah think wow and that that metal rod responds to an external remote and every single day you lay in the hospital bed and the doctor will press a button on the remote, causing the metal rods to move apart from each other.

43:02To stretch. To stretch. It forces your two separated thigh bones to now rip away from one another in opposite directions once a day for three months. The goal is to create a small enough gap in between your leg bones that your body naturally wants to rebuild new bone over the gap. Now, once that's done, before it heals and hardens, you rip it apart even more, causing your body to build new bone every day for three months with one surgery you can gain up to two to three inches but that's if and only if your bones actually fill the broken parts it's not inches yeah that's it that's it wow yeah and if your bones don't fill the empty parts you're just going to be left with like two knees and one leg and you'll likely have to go through the surgery once more if you don't grow now the healing time for a surgery like this is about a year so during that time you have to relearn how to walk relearn how to drive run you can't work but Cho Cho Jubin was never really one that cared about conventional work as long as he could be a bit taller he didn't care about anything the doctor the doctor the doctor had leg oh yeah at 23 years old fresh out of the military three inches taller he wanted to be done with work so for a while he tried volunteering and now that he's stuck inside because after his leg surgery, he can't really do anything.

44:23He's got bad knees. He finds another calling, an easier way to make money and pay off that$100 ,000 hospital bill. March 2019, Cho starts scribbling on his walls in his room. Lots of scribbles, random variations of numbers, letters. I mean, it's illegible to everybody but himself. And when that was perfected, when he looked back into his room and he's like, this is good, he would create a chat room on telegram. Perhaps he was inspired by a surgery or something like that because he named it the doctor's room. Cho had been lurking on these telegram chat rooms for a while now, consuming content. But now with God God, the monopoly of the chat rooms gone, vanished mysteriously.

45:07He sees an opening. He feels like the keys to the kingdom are right for the taking. And what's a kingdom without a God? And who better to help the CP starved population than the good old doctor? A video a day keeps the doctor away. So one of the very first lessons that the doctor learned after starting his enterprise was a bored customer is not a paying customer. Those were the rules that the doctor lived and died by. He did not want to wait to feel the watchers getting disinterested. He always knew when to keep upping the stakes, upping the fun. So one way he would do this is he would open up a new random chat room.

45:43They were so random. He would drop a brand new chat room link in all of his chat rooms, like 70 to 80 of them. and the watchers would scramble to join and the first message in the chat would pop up. It's from the doctor. Ding! Let's play a game. Everyone tell me your dream video. The chat quickly fills up with twisted torture ideas, creative humiliation fantasies that these people have and once they were done, they would start playing the game. It's called the nunchi game, the social cue game. So the game involves counting from one to however many people are playing. You have to count in chronological order.

46:15So each person must say a number once but they cannot say the same number at the same time as somebody else. So usually it's in person. You're in a circle with all of your friends. Let's say you have 30 friends. Now you're going to glance around and nobody's talking. Then you go one. And then you glance around and nobody's talking to you. Two. You blurt out the numbers hoping that nobody says the same number at the same time as you. Otherwise you lose. You're eliminated. You also lose if you're the last one to say a number. It's all about reading the room, which is kind of difficult to do when you're in a chat room.

46:48So the doctor would have the watchers play the nunchi game over and over again until they picked a winner and they would get a piece of content of their choosing. So if they wanted a quote slave to do a certain act of humiliation or if they wanted the address to go R word that slave, they would get that for free because they won the nunchi game. The doctor would spend a lot of time coming up with these fresh ideas for his paying customers. But there is also a downside to that. The problem with being such an ambitious business owner is that in the name of profits, sometimes you cut corners with safety.

47:22Godgad of the nth rooms was known for heavily vetting his users. The process of entering one of his chat rooms was lengthy. It's pricey. It's wild. It's like a four-step authentication process. First, you have to provide a picture of your male body part. That's what he calls it, right? And with your username written next to it. Then you have to provide your government-issued ID and your phone number. Then the third step is the most important step for GodGod. You have to provide your own piece of content. In order to see the library of videos that GodGod has, you have to contribute to the library of videos.

47:55GodGod encouraged people to film their own daughters, cousins, nieces, sisters, explicit videos of them to get access into his room. And once they passed those three steps, the final step was an entrance fee. $8. $1, an arbitrary number that means nothing to him. It's the price of a Big Mac with a large fry and soda. The doctor's vetting process was flipped. He would get an ID from the watchers, but the most important step for him was the payment. His rooms would start at$187 and go all the way up to$1 ,200. And that's just the entry fee. If you want additional bespoke tailor-made content, there would be a fee for that as well.

48:35But the problem with the doctor's method is that guess who else has access to money and fake IDs? The police? Yes. The police had infiltrated the chat rooms. They were in the doctor's room. They're there watching, analyzing, waiting. They're logging every piece of single content and message just waiting for someone to slip up. I mean, come on, make a mistake. They just need an identity or even just a clue, a lead to catch the doctor. But instead, they're going to catch something else. The police are staring at a new video that had been released in the chat rooms. It takes them a moment to understand what they're looking at because they're so used to seeing torture videos show up on this feed.

49:19And this one was almost disorienting. It was of a fully clothed girl filming herself walking into a building. They look up from their phones and they're like, what is going on? the background of that video looks like here earlier that day a girl had walked into the police station to report all the things that she had endured from the doctor and his chat rooms the police had taken her to a back room to take her statement but they had no idea that she was recording the entire thing the entire video was uploaded to the chat room the police interrogation or the police it's not an interrogation because she's a victim oh right the police conversation Yes, she recorded it.

49:59She uploaded it? She uploaded it because she was forced to. It was one of the sickest videos that they would watch in the chat rooms. And sure, the victim is fully clothed. There was no physical violence in the video, but they saw how shaken she was in person, recounting every little thing that the doctor made her do. They saw how ashamed she was saying that to a room full of strange men that she'd never met before. And now that video was uploaded into the chat. and the doctor was sending a very, very clear message. One, I know you're in here. And two, he got off on the reliving of her trauma, forcing her to tell strangers about it.

50:39It was also a way to show her and the other victims that it doesn't matter if you report me to the cops. I'm not scared. In fact, I'm going to let you report me. And lastly, he was showing the police, see, I can have them report me and what? You're still not going to find me. And the worst part of it was it was true. They knew nothing about the doctor. I mean, it seemed like he knew everything about them. He even had this knowledge room, which is like a separate chat room with a notice that read, you must be aware of the concept of police profiling. There were step-by-step methods provided for watchers, instructions on how to avoid being investigated, tips on creating new identities, using common words as nicknames to make it harder for police to track you, using anonymous sites, compressing files with a strong password.

51:24all the instructions and tips the doctors gave to the watchers, it's like he knew how the police operated and what they needed to track people. He knew their process. What did they know about the doctor? If you told the police to write down everything that they knew on a piece of paper, it would look a little goofy. It would read, he's a man in his 40s. Okay, no, maybe 50s? Perhaps he's a writer, office worker? He's well-educated for sure. In messages, the doctor would taunt the police and he would use these traditional Korean words that most young people don't even know about. the police thought he could either be like an office worker or maybe he runs like a PI firm or maybe he does phone scams or maybe he's like a loan shark or again, maybe he's a writer.

52:03He could be in South Korea or China or Cambodia, but they couldn't rule out other countries definitively. So basically, they had nothing on the doctor. The doctor might as well have been one of the 12.9 million men in South Korea or one of the 4 billion men in the world. But that's okay because everybody loves a good underdog story. Within a week, a new Telegram user had risen to the ranks of one of the chat rooms. Enough so that they were given the honor of managing one of the doctor's rooms. He became an accomplice. And it's very interesting because he just popped out of nowhere. He joined the chat rooms July 2019 and his username was Rabbit.

52:41And within a week, he's given a chat room. The chat loved him. I mean, at first he would say these disgustingly bold things. He would say things like, oh, I don't do girls over 12. I also have videos of myself doing an eight-year-old. I'll post those later tonight. But there was just something off about the rabbit. Other than the fact that he's in a CP group chat with a bunch of other men, the other guys were able to pick up on this weird energy, like right away. It's like he studied the chat rooms to figure out the right things to say. He spoke like everybody else. He commented most of the same things.

53:13He used the right eBay slang. But it's like he just did it a little too often. If you're chatting with someone on Telegram, It lets you know when they're online or when they're last online. And Rabbit's status was always online all the time. Just blinking, blinking. Even if there was no activity in the chat, it's like he's always watching or studying what to say. Why is he always online? And the most annoying thing was he would ask the chat to hang out as if he's in a fraternity or best friend group chat. By the way, any of you losers want to meet up tonight? No one would respond because it's...

53:48Like in real life. Yeah. exactly because at the end of the day it's all supposed to be anonymous the other chat members were so suspicious of him that they were convinced that either a he's super weird or b he's an undercover cop their suspicions would only grow when rabbit would send pictures of starbucks that he was at and like what station he was at and he'd be like hey guys if anyone comes to this Starbucks right now. Coffee's on me. Yeah. Hours would pass. Nobody would show up. And then Rabbit would double text into the chat. Why did nobody come? Two chat room members responded. It'll take me six hours to get there.

54:27You are word. Ha. Enjoy your coffee alone, bitch. Rabbit realized since he was new, maybe he needs to earn their trust. Maybe he's like, well, of course they're not going to meet up with me. They don't even know who I am. So Rabbit texted. I'm a real guy. I started college a year ago at Cheonnam National University? I swear. No response. My vision is bad. It's like a negative three. Look, look at my medical record. He texted a picture of his medical record without his name. No answer. Rabbit would send another picture into the group chat. Guys, can you believe I failed my physical for the military?

55:01I had blood in my urine. No answer. He sends another picture of his medical records. Guys, look, they want me to go back to take my physical. I'm going to be at Chosan University Hospital on August 8th. Anybody want to come? Thank you. No respond. What? I mean at this point the rest of the chat is suspicious. Like, why is he being so direct? Why does he keep trying to meet up? Why does he not get the hint? And then one day, Rabbit disappeared. His account was no longer active and he stopped sending random texts. Rabbit was at the police station. And everybody thought, because he's a cop. But he wasn't.

55:36He was there telling the authorities absolutely everything that he knew about the chat room. Turns out there was an undercover cop in the group chat, but it wasn't Rabbit. The police had a burner account that was flying under the radar. It was basically incognito. They weren't commenting anything. They weren't doing anything. And they weren't being suspicious because Rabbit was always taking all the attention. And it just so happens that Rabbit had doxed himself with his own medical records, provided evidence of distribution of CP, as well as a full confession. Wait, so what's his deal? He was just overly excited.

56:11Yeah. The police finally had their big break. They caught a rabbit. So far, all the police had in their hunt was a rabbit. But JTBC, a giant news network in South Korea, was hunting a whale, a crypto whale. So if you remember from part one, two of the biggest South Korean news networks, JTBC and SBS, they released episodes exposing these chat rooms. Nobody knew who the doctor or God God was, but the producers had interactions with the doctor. If you recall from part one, the doctor liked to play games with the producers. He's very confident that they would never catch him. and in an attempt to make the chase more fun, to make the game more fun, he tried to level the playing field.

56:49He showed the producers his crypto account, where he collects payments for the rooms. Then he forced a deal on them. He told them if they air the episodes, he will create victims for them. The news network's very own victims. Before SBS aired their episode, they received a video of a young underage girl fully unclothed with nothing but a plastic bag over her head and red string tied around her neck. She told the producers if they air the episode on the chat rooms, she's going to light herself on fire in front of the headquarters. SBS aired the episode. They were able to locate the girl and secure her safety.

57:24Now, JTBC received a similar threat. If they air the episode, the doctor was going to dox a new victim in all of his chat rooms, not just his VIP rooms. Thousands of men are going to see this victim's home address, her full government name, all of her details, her work address, everything. And what happens when all those dangerous men find it? Well, that would be on JTBC's hands. That's what the doctor said. So this time, they don't have a victim photo or video to go off of. There's no way to secure their safety. The victim's not made yet. But JTBC aired the episode anyway because they felt like what they had on the doctor would finally bring him down.

58:04When JTBC's episode aired, the doctor's chat rooms were crazy active. They had made these episode releases an event. Everyone would grab dinner or lunch, sit down, live watch the show, and comment in the chats about it. They'd be like, ding, it's on. This is going to be fun. They're talking bullshit from the start. God, they don't even know they're victims. She's God God's slave, not the doctors. Isn't she in the fifth room of the unth rooms? I feel like I recognize her from there. This is so dumb. They think that she's one of the doctors. So nobody even was worried. No. Oh, here comes another one.

58:41This one's actually the doctors. The doctor, you got way too many slaves. The doctor would join in on the fun. Look, they're calling me a hikikomori. That's hilarious. Those are a phenomenon where people don't leave their house for years. The Korean police say that they're going to catch me. Yeah, well, we'll see about that. While the episode focused on victim stories and like the depravity of their crimes, the chat was filled with just jokes to the reporters. Hey, journalists, if you're in here watching this right now, Thanks for making us famous. This is another good one. We love this episode.

59:12Can't wait to see all the newcomers coming in. To them, the doctor is a whale and the producers and the police, I mean, they're like little ants. They're just having fun with them. That's all. Entertaining their sad attempts at picking a fight. Or at least that's how they felt. Until the JTBC episode cut to a producer standing in front of a crypto exchange center in Seoul. Wait, is that? The reporters announced that they received a tip that the doctor would use this very crypto exchange center to turn his crypto payments from his viewers into cash. The chat starts blowing up. The messages are moving so fast.

59:48By the time that you read one, it's already gone. Another message has taken its place. They found BestCoin. No way. Everybody who sent money is so freaking screwed. They're going to know who the depositors are. What are we going to do now, doctor? Hello? What are we going to do? Are we? The doctor ranted to the chat rooms. Is this really okay for producers to be ruining a man's business like this? But I digress. I know that many of you guys are worried after watching the show. Many of you guys have asked if we're going to be okay. And I've proven myself time and time again. I have overcome a lot.

1:00:18You can trust me and join these rooms. The watchers were hesitant. They can trace the doctor's crypto. Does that mean that they can trace him? Wait, no, right? Because crypto is untraceable, right? Crypto is so untraceable that it's inevitably traceable. OK, let me explain. Bitcoin and Ethereum are considered transparent blockchains, meaning everybody's wallet is publicly visible on the blockchain. You can see every transaction that's ever made, but you cannot see who the wallet owners are. So if you were able to find out whose wallet that is, then, yeah, theoretically, you could see how much they have in that wallet and their transaction history.

1:00:57But again, you don't know whose wallet they're transacting with. So you get a little bit of information, but not the full picture. Now you have Monero. It's another cryptocurrency. But it's different in the sense that it's called a privacy coin, meaning no one knows how much you have in your wallet. No one knows how much you sent, how much you received, to which addresses you sent to, and to which addresses sent to you. So if nobody knows the doctor's Bitcoin or Ethereum wallet, and the doctor's crypto is untraceable, and because Monero is a privacy coin, it's nearly impossible to track, then he should be fine, right?

1:01:30But then there's a problem with the exchange center. Because most places do not accept crypto as a payment, at least as of right now. Like I can't walk into Trader Joe's and buy soup dumplings and exchange it with Bitcoin. The most popular ways that people can actually spend their crypto is to now bring the money back on the paper trail. And typically there's two ways to do that. One, you sell the crypto and you transfer the funds into your bank account. Or two, you go to an exchange center and you literally cash out on your crypto. You exchange your crypto for cash, basically like crypto ATMs, which is what the producers found.

1:02:07They found which crypto exchange center the doctor uses. But the doctor is way too smart to walk into the crypto exchange center and exchange his crypto for cash by himself, right? So there's no way that they can track the doctor. The doctor would send others to exchange crypto into cash. In the Korean crime world, it's called a money thonjo. So it's like a money throw, if you will. So the doctor will send out a little bit of crypto to all his little errand boys. They will go exchange the crypto into cash at the exchange center, drop off the cash for the doctor at a specific drop point. And then for their work, most of them would receive free access to torture videos.

1:02:43Which if they know which crypto exchange center the doctor uses, does that mean they can follow the doctor by following the money? It was enough for the police to get a solid lead. They knew about which exchange center and now they had a tip come in that the doctor had a favorite errand boy that he liked to use for throwing money. A nine-year-old boy. No way. Yeah. So in theory, most crimes can be solved by following the money. If the police are following the money, would they just follow this little nine-year-old boy that walked into the crypto exchange center? Is that what they have to do? That would lead them to a fire hydrant in a random apartment building in the city.

1:03:21Like a fire extinguisher thing. The investigators are crammed into the CCTV room and they're watching old footage at a random apartment building outside of Seoul. They're like, wait, what is that? So everybody's leaning in and they see this pixelated figure inside of the elevator. It's so pixelated, you can't even really tell if it's a male or a female or anything, really. You just know that they're dressed in dark clothes and they're holding this package, maybe like a brick-sized package, and that's it. But what's so interesting about it, well, the police say, keep watching. And they see this figure carry their little package out the door.

1:04:00And as they're exiting the elevator, they hit close door. The button. So they want the door to close quickly. Yeah. And that's weird. The only CCTV cameras in the entire building are in the main lobby and in the elevators. There are no cameras in the hallways. so whatever they're doing once they get out on this floor they don't want the cctv cameras to see so they keep investigating and they could see that the elevators did not close on time there's only two apartments on this floor and that person was not headed towards either of them they were headed towards the stairwell why take the elevator then go to the stairwell right doesn't make any sense when the authorities go to that stairwell they find a silver door It's a fire extinguisher box.

1:04:48So in South Korea, the fire extinguisher boxes are not see-through like the American ones. It's like a metal locker that can be opened and closed by anyone. But at the same time, nobody can see through it. And nobody just like goes around opening fire extinguisher boxes. It's the only spot that made sense. This is the money drop location. They found this area by tailing the little nine-year-old. And then they found other people coming in and out and leaving money in this fire extinguisher box. it's very interesting they found various different people coming in to drop off money like 17 year olds 19 year olds nine year olds there were a lot of different people involved all doing money drops but only one person was taking the money out every single time but there was no way that that was the doctor because the police were looking at a school girl with a brown brick like paper package in her hands headed out.

1:05:45She's the only one that took money out of that fire extinguisher box. It was a girl. A little girl. When they follow her with unmarked cars, plainclothes officers, the hunt is on. They follow this school girl from a distance. They watch her hand off the brown package to another guy and they both immediately separate. So now the majority of the officers are tailing after the guy because he's the next link in the money drop. Like the girl's just going back home. The guy has a baby face, a rice bowl haircut. The police hoped that maybe he's one or two links away from the doctor. They think that they're going to catch the doctor today.

1:06:19And immediately after taking the money from the schoolgirl, the guy, let's call him Guy One, takes the money straight to another guy, Guy Two. Guy Two is a bit older. Maybe this is the doctor. But as the police watch, they realize Guy One is not passing the money off to Guy Two. guy too is giving guy one more money the money ends with guy one guy one shoves the package into his bag and walks over to a booth where people are protesting he chats with a few of the protesters and they pass him a clipboard and he scribbles on it on it it would read name chou jubin birthday october 14th 1995 and his cell phone number the police went from having nothing on the doctor to having his full name date of birth and phone number wait what is he doing he's signing a petition to do what to put it's like one of those like petitions of like please climate change petition he signed a petition for no reason huh yeah and they knew this has got to be the doctor he was the end of the money link the money was never passed off If they kept watching him, it ended with him.

1:07:37Authorities locate this man's house and they start staking it out. Now they can't barge in because he could easily delete telegram or even log out, which again would delete all the evidence. He could throw all of his phones into the toilet. He could destroy things. They would have to arrest him while he was out of the house to make sure that they could preserve all the evidence that was inside. March 16th, 2020, like a year after he starts his telegram, the perfect opportunity comes. Mr. Cho is going to teach his 24-year-old son, Cho Jubin, how to ride a bike. They did not know they have a full audience.

1:08:10He's learning how to ride a bike because he has to relearn how to do all these things because of his leg lengthening surgery. This is crazy. Yeah. They were about 40 police officers working to catch his every movement. They had officers nearby the subway, the bus routes, another group sitting near his home. And right before Cho and his dad entered the house, they were stopped by the police and arrested. He was brought into the police station where he argued, I am not the doctor. And then he tried to swallow a pen and die. Yeah, I mean, the police had so much evidence against Cho, though, and he knew it.

1:08:41He very quickly, same day, admits, you know what? I am, in fact, the doctor. We want to know about the cash that's stuffed into the shoeboxes, the crypto wallets, the second phone that we found squeezed in between your couch cushions. What's the password? To what? The second phone. What's the password? Sushi. Excuse me? I want to eat sushi. I was going to go eat sushi with my dad, but you arrested us after our bike ride, so I didn't get the chance to eat sushi. If you get me sushi, maybe I might tell you my password. Wow. After sushi, he was too tired to let them know the password. The next day came around.

1:09:17Tell us the password. 叫声 Black bean noodles? Doctor nodded. The day after, it was burgers. for 30 days it was like he was asking for a different food each time he never told them the password the authorities would actually find the password themselves one of the first things that the police noticed when they searched Cho's house were the writings on the wall literally his entire bedroom was filled with scribbles all over the walls and they didn't seem like scribbles of someone who had lost their grasp on reality and they're like losing their minds this felt very intentional like the scribbles are meaning something like the numbers and the letters they all point to something.

1:09:52And they did. I mean, the police just didn't know what. They didn't spell out anything that they could string together. So when Cho didn't give them the password, they went back to the writings on the wall. Maybe he had the password somewhere here. But where? I mean, the probability of us finding the password is just like slim to none. I mean, he's still going to be a creature of comfort, though, of convenience. We all are. So they check the writing near his desk where he might be using his phone. No, nothing. They check the writing near the couch. There is no writing near the couch. That's in the living room.

1:10:22So nothing. The police look around the bed. I mean, he would use his phone in bed, right? They start scanning through the writings on the wall and none of them are working. They're like, try this one. Not working. Try this one. Not working. Then where the hell is the password? And then they look up. All the officers' heads slowly turn and on the ceiling was more writing. A password. It would unlock his second phone. In the photo album of the second phone were the personal IDs of many of his victims. Explicit pictures and videos were found of over 90 different victims just on this one phone. And a surprising conversation between the doctor and God-God of the anthrooms.

1:11:05God-God suggested if we go down, we should take all the victims down with us. The authorities had caught the doctor before he could make any videos public. but now now they need to catch God God because it seems like he's planning to take down all the victims with him experts who had been in the chat room stated if Cho the doctor did this for the sake of money God God did it simply for the sake of having fun unlike the doctor he had spread around the videos and photos pretty freely to other people just so that he could further hurt his victims if he knew that giving everyone the free videos was going to hurt his victims even more he would have done it in a heartbeat and there's this saying if you can't beat them you got to join them so that's what team red was here to do team red is like the anonymous of south korea they are literally anonymous hackers they saw the sbs and jtbc episodes on god god and they wanted to help they offered their services to the police they're like we're gonna catch god god for you they're like how are you gonna do that we've been trying to catch god god for like over a year now we're gonna do it by doing what he does we're gonna go fishing a fishing link with a ph fishing is like setting bait for your catch you send a link and oftentimes the link looks like a legitimate well-known website like a link to a cyber crimes investigative unit or twitter they look legit now side note those were god god's favorite links to send to victims to get all their personal information so god god played into his victims anxieties he would threaten to tell their parents about their photos or threatened to arrest them for producing pornography, which is illegal in South Korea.

1:12:37And because they were so anxious to not get in trouble, his victims would click on these suspicious links. And that's exactly what Team Red would do. They would message into the chat room. Hey, God, God, there's been a new tip line opened up. They've been collecting information about you through this link. The preview of the link read SBS collecting information about the anthromes. God, God's finger hovered over the blue link and then he clicked. they were in team red now had access to his ip address which wi-fi network that he was using and the exact cell phone model he was using just like that one click one click that's scary the police would use those key factors to pinpoint his location and they would go hunt down god god they were led to a junkyard and in the midst of all the trash they see a man standing there in front of them with like 10 to 15 phones just in his arms.

1:13:28The police sees his phones. They handcuff him. They get a full view of his shirt. It's like a black whale on his shirt, just like a whale shirt. Yeah. And the police had literally caught their way. It was so anticlimactic. The police said it didn't even feel real. The God God who is now finally in custody. I mean, it was so clear. He's no God. He also had a very similar complexion to Cho, the doctor. So both were on the quote heavier side with moon-shaped faces that's how they're described by media they're both very young only 24 both of them they're both like in college or just graduated that's so crazy how identical they are they're both really smart too they both had really great grades in college and got into pretty like pretty prestigious colleges god god was an architecture student yeah and cho was a writing student very interesting right is that why they thought joe was really good at writing yeah and he would use all these like very traditional korean words that no young people use that's why they thought he was 50 i see but he's actually 24

1:14:47so god god mun hyun look was finally in custody and seoul became gotham city i mean seoul was locked down one in 100 men that is the estimate that netizens were circulating after this case went viral. 260 ,000 users of the doctor's room and the nth rooms. The population of Korea is 51 million people. That is 1 in 200 people or 1 in 100 men. Technically, half the viewers of these chat rooms were not even Korean. They were foreigners. But that would still mean 1 in every 200 men could have been a viewer of these chat rooms. And then if you take all the kids and the number even gets crazier. Crazier.

1:15:33Ordinary women who have never even imagined something like this could take place, they're forced to face the idea that someone that they know, someone at work, their boss, their pastor, their husband, brother, dad, son, could be a watcher. I mean, it felt like full chaos in the city. Churches are praying for the cleansing of the nation. Wives, girlfriends, sisters are demanding to go through family members' phones trying to find any evidence that they had visited these chat rooms. Other parents are frantically checking their children for injuries like trying to force them to prove that they didn't harm themselves for videos.

1:16:01School administrators are busy trying to prevent students from circulating articles and speculations of who could have been in the enthrums. Vigilante justice websites are popping up everywhere accusing random people of being enthrum watchers. Some of them weren't even watchers. Some of them were. Colleagues are accusing each other of being watchers. People are terrified of clicking any link that looks suspicious because what if it downloads those videos onto their phone? I mean, how is anybody going to sleep comfortably at night knowing that these types of chat rooms exist and that one in every 200 men in Korea could have been on these chat rooms?

1:16:33So netizens, they demand a few things from the get go. One, they want the perpetrator's identities to be released. OK, so in South Korea, there is a seven person committee that votes on whether or not criminals identities should be released to the public. Most criminal identities by default are kept private. So it's not like the US. They have to meet four criteria to even think about publicizing their identities. The four criteria are the crime has to be violent and cruel. There must be sufficient evidence to prove the suspect has committed the crime. Disclosure of the identity is for the public good and the suspect has to be an adult.

1:17:09So those four things. Second, they want all identities of all watchers, of all users of the chat rooms to be released. and third they want the perpetrators to get the book thrown at them they want them in prison for life first request release all identities of all the perpetrators this part was a bit convoluted and not that pertinent in the grand scheme of things but the doctor's identity was actually revealed because the police told the press that they're going to do a covid test on an inmate who is suspected of being the doctor of the telegram chat rooms at that point the press didn't even know they made an arrest they just made a press release that there was a inmate that they need to test for covid and his crime is being the suspect for being the doctor of the telegram chat rooms so the press is like we didn't even know that you made an arrest on that so they start going crazy like why would you hide this from us why are you hiding his identity people were rioting on the streets a petition was signed by over five million people to release the perpetrator's full identities and even the watcher's identities.

1:18:15God God Moon was brought to the public for the first time after his arrest and his face was publicized. His name was publicized. There were cameras flashing around his face. Reporters were asking him, would you like to say anything? I want to tell the victims and their families that I'm sorry. What was the purpose of your crimes? I think that I had corrupt ethics. What's your relationship with Cho Jubin, the doctor? I don't know him. as the police escorted him into the car he would just repeat i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry all over again but it's it's so empty he would even argue well i only received 675 dollars for the videos since i mean it's not that big of a deal i didn't even make a lot of money that made him worse yeah but his statement was considered tame compared to that of the doctors after both of their identities were released the doctor made a statement he was first seen in public with a neck brace on because he kept trying to harm himself.

1:19:14He had a band-aid on his head. Okay, the reason I'm kind of like laughing at that is not because I think anything is funny, but it's so ridiculous. He just kept trying to harm himself in ways that were very clearly not harmful. Like he just had a band-aid on his head and you just know that there's like no wound or barely any wound there. Yeah. And also I think at this point, it's one of those situations where who cares if he's in pain? Like nobody cared. None of the netizens cared. Like boohoo, we don't care. now he comes out to the public and at first his his face is blank he's just not making eye contact staring out and the first thing he would say is an apology but not to the victims of the chat rooms he would say i genuinely apologize to everyone who has suffered harm because of me including jtbc president son seokhee mayor yoon changyeon and journalist kim moon this is a different one from the last episode different journalist people are like what why is he apologizing to not the victims and why is he apologizing to these three people this is so random so in his whole in the whole quest to find out who the doctor was these three people he was like blackmailing them he was stirring up shit he was starting rumors the chat rooms were attacking them And now these three people have the influence and the political weight to impact his case.

1:20:36So that's it's speculated. That's why he was publicly apologizing to them. The mayor, the JTBC president that controls the media, one of the major media networks of South Korea, another journalist that's been on this case since the get go. The reporters asked him, OK, a lot of your victims are underage. Do you feel guilty about that at all? He just responded, Thank you for putting a break on the life of a devil that cannot be stopped. Netizens and experts analyzed his statement, and that would really be one of the few statements that he would make in regards to his actions. They said by referring to himself as a devil, it seemed like he was trying to put himself up on a pedestal.

1:21:16He wasn't saying devil as in I'm so bad, but it was almost as he's boasting that his deeds were unparalleled. That there was God, God, but he's the devil. South Koreans were not content with the release of the perpetrator's identities. They wanted the identities of the watchers to be released as well. So petitions with millions of signatures were being circulated and signed to demand a release. There was shockingly some pushback on this. Some netizens were complaining, I feel like I'm being treated very unfairly right now that I can't even go to sleep. I don't see what's so wrong with watching adult content that I rightfully paid for on the anthroms.

1:21:55Rather than punishing the users of the anthromes, they should go after the girls who filmed themselves to begin with because pornography and producing videos, explicit videos in South Korea is illegal. So technically, they're breaking the law. Police? Yeah. He just outed himself. Another netizen wrote that he was a victim by watching those videos. He said now he carries psychological stress of not reporting the videos when he should have. He said because he never reported it and now that it was exposed, he feels like people are going to think that he's a watcher. Which he was. But like now he has a lot of psychological stress and he feels pretty victimized.

1:22:35Yeah. Others probably commented that they would never get caught. They said, well, I watched it all on a Google Drive and I actually never downloaded the video. So good luck, idiots. I think so many people sign also probably comes from they want to know who's around their family right because that's scary you know I'm sure a good chunk of them you could probably listen to the way they talk and what they do and you're like yeah you're definitely a watcher of the anthromes but I'm sure a big chunk of them no one would suspect everyone would be shocked because my what's in my mind is like you know how we were in Korea like you go on subways yeah look at how many people and then you think about bro you're just like rubbing shoulders with them i also wonder if a lot of people would bring up anthrams on purpose like i feel like i would have done that just to kind of gauge energies of people just to see how they react and that's kind of interesting because people were circulating tips for the watchers on how not to get caught so one of the threads going around was a list of all the petitions that were being made demanding harsher punishment and the release of all the identities of the users.

1:23:46The thread suggested that if you were a watcher, you should sign all the petitions with your government name. So in Korea, you sign them like with your government name. Because naturally, I guess human psychology would make the watchers want to distance themselves as far away as possible. So it was argued actually in these threads, like when people talk about enthrum, don't say things like, oh no, I don't keep up with news like that. Because immediately, you're weird, you're suspicious. So the threads were advising instead of distancing yourself from the case, you should lean into it. Don't shy away from it.

1:24:17You want to support the fight for justice so that nobody suspects you. Then there were some netizens who felt upset by the telegram news because they never got a chance to watch it. They started taking to Pub and other explicit adult websites to see what the videos were about. The week of when the news of the anthrooms really exploded, all these explicit adult websites had a spike in searches that included variations of the words telegram, enthrum chatroom, Korean high school, Korean middle school, Korean chatroom middle school. Wow. And this was not just in South Korea. It wasn't just South Koreans searching this.

1:24:54This was happening globally. So after hearing the horrors of the enthrum, there were people who wanted to see it for themselves, for the pleasure. When the trending searches were exposed, netizens were freaking out. They were commenting. Can't they track the people who search for that, too? What the fuck? These people need to stop pretending to be human. You guys are all disgusting. Why are they even alive? Like, really, this is insane. You must be out of your minds. An Edison would create a Blue House petition asking for the creation of a cyber sex crime division, harsher prison sentences for offenders and the need for joint internal investigations for these crimes.

1:25:27It would get over 100 ,000 signatures very quickly. Now, one congressman would say in response, does every petition have to become a law? Another politician was asked about his opinion on the Anthrum case And he responded nonchalantly I'm not too familiar, but perhaps the performer He's talking about the victim Used it as an artistic outlet Another congressman said If I'm only consuming these videos for self-pleasure Is there a reason to be prosecuted? If I alone paint a picture, I can't be prosecuted for the law Wait, these are Politicians I feel like they just outed themselves Yeah, precisely Yeah.

1:26:07What? Exactly my thoughts. And this case wasn't just impacting the country on a big national political scale. It was infiltrating young people's everyday lives, like everybody's lives, not even just the victims. And I say that not to emphasize like, oh, there's other victims because I don't like the victims of the Anthurum cases are the victims of the Anthurum cases. I think there's a lot of collateral damage that was done to the society and to families. But I don't know if I would categorize them as victims. Right. But just to show you the big widespread implications of this case, there's an anonymous forum where a lot of college students and high schoolers will go.

1:26:44This one high school girl posted on there and she went by the username Miss A. She said that she had a dilemma in her personal life. She said she had been dating this guy and he confessed to her the other day. Hey, you know the Anthrim thing that's been going around? Well, I saw the videos, but I didn't know that the girls were being forced to do all those things. I thought they were just making it for, you know, consumption. I thought it was just like explicit material they were making. The girl posted that she felt really gross about his response because she wrote, I mean, the videos weren't normal, you know, like you can't really they're doing explicitly weird and terrible things.

1:27:17And not to mention, like I heard that when you see the Anthrum videos, you can just tell that they're not of age. Like it's very obvious. So she told the forum that she immediately confronted her boyfriend and said, it doesn't matter if you knew or not. Like these just the fact that you watched it is weird. She stated that she broke up with him and he got very angry and he was so angry that she wasn't trying to be considerate and understand his side of the story. She wanted to ask the audience, am I the asshole for breaking up with him? Wow. One rapper in South Korea went by the stage name Simba and nobody asked, but he posted on Instagram saying, The more the situation for the Anthrum becomes intense, the more we need to be level-headed instead of becoming hot-headed with emotion.

1:28:04I hope there will be a cold and realistic punishment for the perpetrators. Yes, this is a case that has become a hot issue among citizens. But that does not mean the users should all be sentenced to life. That would not be fair. Plus, that would be overlooking the precedent. You know, just because we're angry about the case does not mean that we should increase the punishment. this could mean later if and when your son or your brother ends up getting caught watching some pornography that their consequences will be based on the results of this very case. What if this case becomes a new standard for society and they all get sentenced to life for watching explicit videos?

1:28:39This is so much more than about us being upset and wanting the perpetrators to pay. The public reaction went as well as you would imagine. People were flooding his Instagram with comments asking him if he was one of the 260 ,000. Some said, just keep your mouth shut, okay? if you don't know what you're talking about, this random ass rapper, if my brother gets caught watching shit like this, getting sentenced to life isn't going to happen to him because I'm going to kill him myself. Other netizens tried to reason with him. They said, what if your sister or your girlfriend or your mother gets tricked into this crime and becomes a victim of these perpetrators?

1:29:12Would you still want them to be punished reasonably? Like, have you thought about it like that? The rapper responded to the comments and he doubled down. My dear feminist friends. If it makes you feel better, then go ahead and leave your hate here. I can't understand why such great people with great ideals don't have real Instagram accounts, but whatever. I can only assume that you can't read long statements because you're all stupid and lazy, but I'm truly amused by the fact that you thought that I meant, quote, I need my right to watch porn. I guess now the world knows that you guys don't have the brains.

1:29:40Ha, you know what? Go ahead. Find all the doctor related people, even the ones you watch and have them killed. I never watched it, so. People would end up dying. At least six people self-exited in connection with the Anthroom case. They were exposed as watchers of the Anthrooms and they were scared of the consequences of their actions. Yeah, they could not stomach the idea of dealing with the consequences, but they could stomach the visuals of hundreds of girls being tortured. So, I mean, do with that what you will. It felt like every other day, news was breaking that another person had self-exited.

1:30:16Netizens had a lot of mixed reactions. Some felt bad for the families that they were breaking up. Not saying that these people deserve to get off scot-free, like they deserve to be in prison for very long times, but it was likely a shock to wives, mothers, sisters, children. I mean, they were all collateral damage and all of this. And then another rapper got in trouble for the exact opposite reason as Simba. So after the news broke that six men had taken their lives over the concerns that they would be exposed as watchers of the anthrooms one rapper wrote this is making me so happy if more of them die i'll write a commemorative song let's all reveal all their identities he even added a story of the han river saying let's go this is the han river kiddos talking to the people who are watching and a lot of he had mixed responses from netizens some netizens called him out for having a song 10 years ago that referenced underage essay he was also found to be drunk driving a few years back so he doesn't have the cleanest reputation.

1:31:17Others just analyzed the intention behind his message and they said that he was encouraging self-exiting. Others felt kind of torn. They said tough call. I mean on one hand we shouldn't celebrate but on the other hand that person is trash who contributed to the victimization of women and children so. Another reads I wouldn't necessarily cheer for their deaths but I sure as hell would not shed a tear for them either. the police tracked down 124 people in relation to the crimes and 18 people were formally detained the doctor and gad gad were sick but these guys were just as depraved and sick for helping these two one of them an sungjin helped gad gad and he alone had distributed over a thousand child exploitation videos he even essayed a 12 year old girl and when he was asked why would you do that he said he r-worded her out of quote simple curiosity wow try to try to imagine saying that as an answer yeah yeah i don't even and it's very interesting i think the analyzation of these two perpetrators the doctor and god god is that the doctor cho is the definition of an incel he hates woman.

1:32:33He wants money. He wants power. And to a degree, he wants to be loved by a woman, but probably they have to fit a very unrealistic, bizarre idea that he has of what a woman is. He has bone deep insecurities. Literally, he would break his bones and undergo one of the most painful cosmetic surgeries on the market just to be like three inches taller. He's 5 '7", by the way, after surgery. Yeah, he's willing to risk not being able to walk, not being able to do anything for a year after that surgery. So he's deeply insecure. And he also has a tendency to blame women collectively for everything bad in his life.

1:33:12He also has a clear fixation on money and power. Money gives him the power and that's his end goal. He's chasing the power. All of those combined create the definition of an incel. The doctor was an incel who wanted money and power, But God, God, he was just a sadist. He just got off on the pain. It wasn't even really the power. It was just the pain. So it's the case of the incel and the sadist. And all of Korea wanted to see them burn. But just because you want a bonfire doesn't mean you're going to get one. If Dr. and God, God had posters on their walls of their biggest inspiration or hero, it would probably be a tiny Korean guy in a baseball cap.

1:33:53His name is Soon Jung-woo. We're going to call him Cheonggul. And he got away with running the world's biggest, most prolific CP website on the history of the Internet. He was only 21 years old. Authorities who worked on this case stated by volume, there were more CP videos on his one website than they had seen on any other dark website before this. And it was confirmed by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that half the videos on there were originals. They were unique pieces of data that had never been seen before. meaning they had been made for the sole purpose of being uploaded to chongwu's website so he this was before enthrum he was arrested a year before enthrum and that's why his name comes up a lot when the when the doctor and god god were being arrested because they were assuming netizens are assuming that their sentencing is going to be very similar to his sentencing uh-huh now the website that chongwu had was called welcome to video and unlike the enthrum and the doctor's room, you had to be on the dark web to access it.

1:34:52The banner of the website read, do not upload adult content because the creator, Cheong Woo, wanted CP. He wanted mainly videos of infants. At its peak, the website had 1.2 million members and over 250 ,000 unique videos. Again, that means videos that were not seen anywhere else on the dark web prior to this. New victims, new acts of violence produced exclusively for this website. Content was downloaded over a million times. users were encouraged to upload their own videos. Chung Woo, the founder, would encourage users to kidnap infants, film them, are wording the infants for the sake of producing content for his website.

1:35:28And they did. So a lot of FBI investigators who tried to take down Welcome to Video, they said, you know, you're kind of expecting videos of maybe people that are in the teen range, 13, 16. The most popular search terms were one-year-old, two-year-old, four-year-old, young infant, and babies. The youngest children being abused on that site were only six months old In exchange for this type of content being uploaded Cheongwoo, the creator, would give those users rewards points Which could be exchanged for video downloads So they ran very similar to the Telegram chat rooms It's speculated that the Telegram chat room creators GodGod, the doctor, they were inspired by Welcome to Video So we think that the doctor is inspired by GodGod but perhaps they were both inspired by Cheong-woo from Welcome to Video.

1:36:16When he was caught. Yeah, so Welcome to Video actually flew under the radar for a really long time on the dark web, and it wasn't even discovered by South Korean authorities. And it's not even just a South Korean. The founder, I don't want to say founder. I don't know what other word to use. Cheong-woo, right? He's South Korean, but this was a global issue. Like, this was discovered because people in other foreign nations were getting arrested and they found welcome to video on their computers. It was terrifying. Like they had never seen anything like this before. The U.S. gets involved and oddly enough, the IRS would be the ones to take down the website because it's financial fraud.

1:36:57Yeah, the IRS has like their own investigation team. It's crazy. So 337 people would be arrested. The network of video production spanned across at least 38 countries and at least in 23 states. A lot of the watchers had very alarming occupations. One was a federal agent for Homeland Security. Another was a vice principal of a high school in Georgia. One man ran a daycare in Kansas. There were former congressional aides, a former border patrol agent, which side note, this border patrol agent is absolutely vile. Authorities found that he had an active GoFundMe running where he was raising funds to adopt his wife's daughter from a previous relationship.

1:37:34He's like, this is my stepdaughter and I want to formally adopt her. He was simultaneously, as he has that GoFundMe, simultaneously uploading videos of himself, fully abusing that stepdaughter on videos on Welcome to Video while presenting to the world that he was this hardworking guy who needed the funds to adopt her. Another guy that was caught with Welcome to Video on his computer had 450 ,000 hours of CP on his hard drives, 450 ,000 hours. You could watch his collection of videos for 51 years without ever repeating or stopping for a single second. 51 years. Five one. Another man, a father of two, was caught being a buyer of Welcome to Video.

1:38:14And when they went to arrest him in his house, they found hidden cameras all over his house to film his children's friends when they came over to shower and use the restroom. So Welcome to Video was a CP operation that led hundreds of people being arrested from all over the world. I mean, it was used internationally. At least 300 were arrested in the US, as well as other arrests were made in Finland, France, UK, Italy, Sweden, Canada, Saudi Arabia, in total, at least 38 different countries. It's estimated that there were over a million registered users. When it came to Welcome to Video's founder, though, the judge in South Korea said, he's young.

1:38:50He was 21 when he started. He's 23 when he was caught, similar to the doctor and Gad Gad. He's an adult. Yes, but he has no criminal history and he's reflecting on himself. What are you talking about? He also has a wife that he must support. He was given 18 months in prison. 18, 1, 8. Not two years, like one year and a few, one and a half years. Korea just don't care about... Yeah, well, the judges don't care. The citizens care a lot. Right. Yeah. He was even asked why he created the website and he responded, well, I thought child videos would make more money than adult videos. Even his dad said, it's not like he killed somebody.

1:39:33What's the big deal? I'm just not going to let him use the computer anymore. Wow. Yeah. Side note, the laws in South Korea are horrendously written when it comes to crimes against children. But not just like South Korea thinks like this. It's just the law. I mean, there were massive petitions nonstop. Every South Korean is so confused because they were saying, we get longer time for smoking weed in Korea. Like, what do you, who are you guys protecting in this country? Like, this infuriates me. A lot of Koreans were saying, send him to the U.S. because the U.S. wanted him. The U.S. said, extradite him to us.

1:40:07We're going to charge him in the United States. And if he was charged in the U.S., he's looking at like 75 years to life and probably going to get murdered in prison. South Koreans were saying, send him, extradite him. He's going to get his shit rocked in prison. That's what the netizen comments were reading. South Koreans were protesting, arguing. Who are these laws made for? They're not made for the citizens. They're not made for the children. A lot of netizens asked, South Korean netizens were asking, it feels like the judges won't change the laws because they participate in these activities.

1:40:37And if they get caught, they don't want harsh punishments. That's what it feels like because why else would you not change it? It doesn't make any sense. South Korea denied the US's request for extradition. yeah they said that they needed to investigate him for for illegal gambling gambling is illegal in South Korea and they said he used some of his profits from welcome to video to gamble and that's illegal yeah he made a few million dollars while the site was up which is crazy and he used some of that money to gamble and he was sentenced to two years additionally which is six more months than what he got for the distribution of CP so illegal gambling he got two years for cp and running one of the craziest dark web cp websites he got a year and a half yeah and he was not extradited to the u.s wait so when was this this was 2018 a year before god god is he out yeah i think so yeah so So it's absolutely insane.

1:41:44Yeah. So if there's any comparison to the amount of time that the doctor and God got her going to get, this was the best case reference. And South Koreans were terrified. I mean, they were scared that this was going to happen again. Netizens were commenting, when I played Monopoly growing up, I used to wonder if there really was such a thing as get out of jail cards and if they existed in real life. And it turns out they do. In our country, Korea, it's just called having a penis. Prosecutors requested life sentences for both, arguing that these crimes were unprecedented in history and that Cho, the doctor, clearly had zero remorse.

1:42:19Netizens really hoped that the government would listen. I mean, they were commenting, I hope these two get sent to the nth circle of hell. And in the end, the doctor, Cho, was sentenced to 45 years in prison. That's it. The judge said his behaviors caused extreme pain on the victims and they are demanding of severe punishment. so I guess in their minds technically compared to the previous cases like welcome to video it was a lengthier sentence but it's really nothing in the grand scheme of things it would later be appealed and he would get 42 years meanwhile God God was sentenced to only 34 years in prison it's speculated that he was actually given less time because he didn't have strong financial gains from his crimes which I feel like the opposite it's like he's even I don't know a lot of yeah a lot of netizens argue he's worse because he wasn't even doing it for money he was literally doing it for the sake of it yeah one victim said why can't they just seek the death penalty against them what happens if they get released for being model prisoners then what and then august 2021 a blog went up on naver and it was titled i'm chojubin aka the doctor of telegram there would be a total of six articles posted and the blog would open i opened this blog and instagram account as channels to express my opinion which is the truth i know i'm offending people writing this stuff but i'm not trying to deny my sins i want to selflessly admit what i did wrong wait this was when he's in jail yeah what his dad was doing it for him what cho admitted that he produced and distributed abusive material however he did not agree that the chat rooms were like a crime ring he also believed that because some of the evidence was illegally collected by the police that meant that he can't really be charged with that evidence he can't like that shouldn't have been in the trial.

1:44:04When it comes to his sentencing, Cho, the doctor, asked us the question of... See, it's so funny. Like, okay, you're doing illegal shit? Yeah. That's illegal. Yeah. So you're not following the law. And now you turn around, you're like, by law, those are not legal. So the police can't legally... Yeah, it's like, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. And he asks the public, the trial is over and I can't turn back time. Even if I talk for 100 days, it's not going to do me any good. So trust me just once. Let go of your doubts. 42 years in prison. That's the weight I have to bear. Was what I did really that bad?

1:44:40And also, is it okay to mock someone like this? Does this make sense? Do you think this case is resolved because of my sentence? No, it's wrong. This even shows more that he has no concept of what he did. It's unfair to receive such a long sentence. He stated that the victim's statements were not true and that he was unfairly and heavily sentenced. He said the sentence against me is a declaration that the law has been defeated by public opinion. What a joke. Yeah. He has zero remorse. And I don't think any of them are going to get any vigilante justice in prison either. South Korea has pretty relaxed prisons compared to the US.

1:45:20And there does not seem to be a strong association with offenders getting poetic justice behind bars. The Dr. Cho even had time in prison to make a pen pal. do you guys remember the child star killer case we covered recently a child star married a man ended up cheating on him and he mysteriously died in a cliff jumping incident he became her pen pal giving her tips on how not to incriminate herself and how she should not talk to the police she should not work with the police so yeah i don't think he feels any remorse one citizen wrote since our country does not have the willpower to punish these criminals at least send them to the U.S.

1:45:59or send them to North Korea. Send them to the correctional centers there. We don't have to spend our money, our taxpayer money. We can just outsource these things since it doesn't seem like we're going to improve our system anytime soon. There were some small amendments made to the CP laws in South Korea after this case. They made changes so that possessing, purchasing, and viewing illegal content would have imprisonment up to three years or you could be fined$23 ,000. Those who plan to commit SA, So you know how in the chat rooms they're like planning to commit essay? Wait, you only get three years?

1:46:29Yeah. So those who plan to commit essay would be sentenced to up to three years. And the age of consent was raised from 13 to 16 years old. But is this really enough to stop the chat rooms? Reporter Kim from the first episode said, every day there were dozens of different chat rooms appearing and disappearing, copycat rooms, spinoff rooms. I mean, at the time of our investigation, there were hundreds of rooms with some variation of the nth room in their names, even if they weren't run by God God. Like Project N. Project N was a chat room on Telegram that was created by Bhaemuge, and he would SA middle school girls, post the footage into his room.

1:47:03He produced and distributed 76 different pieces of content. He was only given five years in prison. Or there's another case dubbed the second Nth Room case. Ten men, including middle school and high school students, were arrested for distributing CP through Discord. So not Telegram, but Discord. They originally ran their CP operations on Telegram, but after God God and the doctor were arrested, they moved their operation to discord now this particular case was really disturbing for south korea because the quote producers in the operation were miners themselves yeah see like that said the examples yeah and the consequences are so low for miners in korea yeah and they were selling these videos like full essay videos for eight dollars twenty three dollars and it wasn't just in korea November 23rd of 2022, an Australian who is ethnically Korean, Lee Sung-il, was accused of threatening underage girls and creating videos of them to spread on Telegram, just like God-God and Park Sa.

1:48:02He operated close to 30 Telegram chat rooms that were very, very similar to the doctor's rooms. Those are just the ones that we know of right now. But who's to say there aren't more? I mean, I don't think that that ended with the doctor or God-God. but that is what we have with the nth rooms and the doctor's rooms what are your thoughts please stay safe and i will see you guys in the next one bye