#359: 20 Police Officers Listened On The Phone As He Sliced Her Into 365 Pieces To Make Human Flesh Pills

27:04And the first thing on his mind is essay. He tells the police that he looks over at Kimmy, who did not sleep all night. She looks terrified. He tries to essay her once more. But he claims that she's even crazier about fighting back this morning than she was last night. He thought that she'd be so exhausted. She's pushing her thighs together so hard he decides there's nothing more that he can do. It's just very frustrating for him at this point. He kidnapped her, went through all of this, and can't even get what he wants. So he grabs one of those stainless steel wrenches that you see in the toolboxes.

27:34He grabs it from under the kitchen sink, marches into the bedroom, and whacks Kimmy on the head once. Blood splatters onto his walls. He says he goes again, twice. There's blood everywhere. It's such a mess. he said that it's seeping through the blanket into the mattress now and he's just thinking okay i gotta wrap her up in the blanket drag her into the bathroom he tosses her onto the bathroom floor and again it was just one of those shitty nights he just needs to clear his head first so he can figure out what to do next he starts putting his hands over his pockets and he's like wow when one thing goes wrong everything goes wrong where's this freaking lighter so he goes he finds a spare lighter.

28:16And now with this lit cigarette in his hand, his mouth is pursed. He's puffing out smoke. One walks back over to the restroom just to stare at Kimmy. He thought she's dead. But out of nowhere, her body starts shaking and convulsing like she's trying to get back up. He goes into the bedroom, grabs a scarf and starts strangling Kimmy with it. He does not stop until she stops moving. By that point, he's done. He's right in the face, exhausted. He's sitting against the bathroom wall to regain some of that energy. And he's reaching into his pocket for another cigarette, but he just has this nagging feeling, like a strong paranoid feeling.

28:53What if she's still alive? So he gets up and he hits her again with a heavy steel wrench, maybe a few more times, just to be absolutely sure that she's dead, for peace of mind's sake. Once he's confident that she's dead, he claims to go into the kitchen, grab his favorite knife, a knife sharpener, and he's sharpening his knife and he starts cutting up the victim's private parts and anger and spite. Then he starts the process of slicing off a layer of flesh one by one. He spent six hours trying to break down her body into smaller pieces. He said it was his first time killing and he needed to find a way to dispose of her body.

29:32That is the story that Oh Wanchun tells the police. The story of why he felt he needed to kill and debon a woman into over 350 pieces because she bumped into his shoulder. The police report the events of the arrest to the public and they state during their press conference, we say this with great regret, but it was an investigation where we tried. We tried our best. We dispatched 35 detectives to investigate overnight and we caught the killer in 13 hours. Unfortunately, it was the best we could do. It was just ultimately a tragedy. The police could do nothing but arrest the killer, which is exactly what they did.

30:11But I mean, beyond that, they can't force every citizen to be a law-abiding, moral, upstanding person, right? All they have was that 15-second 112 emergency call where the victim screamed into the phone. There was no description of the killer, no mention of the address, no name was given. All the victim had told them was, I'd been sexually assaulted. I don't know who this man is. I don't know where I am. And essentially, the victim hung up. Did you catch all the parts that don't make sense? At first, netizens don't think anything is off about the police statements. They take it at face value. But a female netizen does bring up something interesting, just a passing comment, food for thought.

30:48I don't know if it's just me, but it just doesn't make sense to me that a woman would argue with a strange man in the middle of a dark alleyway at night. Maybe it's just me. I could understand more if it was in public in broad daylight, but in a deserted alleyway at night, I guess I just can't picture it. journalists also think it's interesting so they start poking around in the case and there's just so many weird things the police stated that there were 35 officers out there searching for the victim that night but only 20 or so officers were even on duty that night the whole canvassing the area story doesn't make sense either if you really think about it the police spent a lot of time patting each other's backs on how none of them got a wink of sleep while they searched for Kimmy the whole crew was out there doing everything that they could So clearly the police are treating finding Kimmy as high top priority, but they didn't think it was high priority enough to wake up a resident, ask them if they saw something.

31:41The police are scrambling to save a life, but then tiptoeing in the bushes, putting their ear up to people's shh, don't wake anyone up. That is so weird. And how are the police so easily believing this old one's man's story? His motive that he killed Kimmy because she bumped into him on the street feels nonsensical. but journalists were also able to track down Kimmy's family who remain anonymous but they stated that doesn't sound like Kimmy at all she wouldn't even cuss at someone that she knows let alone a complete stranger in the dark alleyway it's starting to feel like O-1 knew Kimmy's schedule knew that she'd be walking home from work and kidnapped her it feels premeditated but still what does that have to do with the police right they wouldn't have been able to foresee something like that the authorities also state that this is O-1's first murder It's his first murder, but he deboned someone into over 350 pieces.

32:34A professor of criminology weighed in on that detail and stated, first-time offenders, they try to dispose of the body as quickly as possible. If it was just for transportation and disposal, he would have cut the body into large chunks. The fact that he cut the body into that many pieces, or really deboned her, means that he was excited about cutting the body, which suggests that this was not the first time. You do not escalate to this point the first time. Other netizens commented, You don't just do that for six hours unless you're getting something out of it. It takes so much physical stamina, time, and effort.

33:08He had to constantly use the knife sharpener in between cuts to sharpen his bloody knife and keep going. Another comment reads, There's just no way. I mean, no way he did that for the sole purpose of transporting the body. You just don't do something like that on a whim. If purely disposing of the body was the goal. Again, he would have cut our body into big pieces. The skill that it would have taken to do something of this caliber, it is not something that you just casually wake up and intuitively do. One butcher even commented, I've been doing this for 20 years, being a butcher, and I don't know.

33:37Considering that there are 360 pieces packed evenly into 14 separate plastic bags is just very bizarre to me. Even if it was an accidental, unpremeditated murder, the cuts and how the flesh is cut so thin, it just doesn't make sense. The whole version of events presented by the police just does not make sense. But what incentive would they have to lie? It's very difficult to find a statistic on average of how often someone views explicit videos online. Some people have never seen pornography. They have no plans to watch it, right? Other people compulsively seek it out and spend hours every single day watching it.

34:16But I think it's safe to say that on average, the normal person does not look up videos 26 times in a single day. Owen likes to start his days with explicit videos. While he's getting ready for work, it's playing in the background. While he's standing at the bus stop waiting for the bus around other people, he will watch it with headphones on the way to the construction site where he works. Then when he gets home from work, he's going to look again about 26 more times for the perfect video. If it's good enough, he might even considering adding it to his collection of 700 videos that he already has.

34:47But if it's not, he'll just skip on to the next. Oh-won has an explicit video addiction, but he's also very much into sex work. There is a saying in Korea, there is no sex work in Korea, except where there is sex work in Korea. Meaning sex work is technically illegal, but it's also a billion dollar business. There's a few different types of establishments offering such services. Whiskey bars, you go there, you don't get full on intimacy. But you still get very beautiful women to sit and sip on whiskey with you. It's kind of like a hostess bar. A bottle of whiskey is going to set you back a few hundred dollars.

35:21There's no touching allowed. Just talking. Just emotional comfort. Just ego inflation. Kiss rooms. You pay to pretend to have a girlfriend for a few hours. They will snuggle you, cuddle with you, kiss you, and act warmly to you like you're their boyfriend. There's very light touching allowed over the shirt perhaps, but nothing beyond that. Then there's something called barber shops. I don't think you want to get a haircut here. It's definitely a seedier place to be, but you typically get taken into a dark, grimy backroom behind a barbershop and they will unenthusiastically help you arrive at your destination.

35:57Typically, it's older, less attractive women that have been doing this perhaps since longer than you've been born. Then you have window shops. These used to be really big in Itaewon. There was even a place in Seoul called Hooker Hill, which I think is completely inappropriate, but that is what it was called. You walk down the road and there are girls in tiny glass boxes, usually in short, tight miniskirts, trying to get your attention. It's like a cubicle. It's not even really a shop. It's just like a glass box. They try to get your attention. And the only thing inside of there is a stool and a makeup vanity.

36:33and it's very clear that these girls are being exploited because their pimp is usually standing right outside their glass box. But I guess you could choose the person you would like, walk into their glass box, they have a little curtain that they draw and they try to get you out of there as quickly as possible. There is also an establishment called Everything Else Rooms. They're kind of like barbershops, everything but full-on intimacy. You will arrive at the destination but you're not going to have full intimacy and it's less grimy. Some Redditors say these are sometimes even better than full-blown intimacy establishments, and they usually have very attractive women working at these locations.

37:10Then you have massage parlors. This is full-blown intimacy, and I don't know how true this is, but it's been rumored that a lot of them have secret tunnels and hallways set up so that if there's a police raid, you can get quickly out of there. There's also another rumor in South Korea that police will bust sex work establishments for show. They'll actually call the establishment to get rid of all the clients, and then they'll come bust it and then it'll proceed under a new business name typically. Then you have establishments called opistas, which is like a modern version of a brothel. There are apartment buildings where many of the apartments are rented out by rings of staff workers.

37:48So you walk into the apartment building and each apartment unit is set up like a girl's personal apartment. Highly doubtful that anyone actually lives in this building. I guess it's just part of the fantasy. They say it feels like you're walking in as their boyfriend. You're walking into their personal apartment and there is full-blown intimacy. It's stated that they're typically not in a rush to get you out of there because it's more of a repeat client-based system. Then you have something called delivery services. You walk into a love motel, ask the front clerk, can I get a delivery girl's number?

38:21They will typically divert you to an organization that sends you a random girl to the motel room door. then there are variations of room salons karaoke bars regular bars it's very similar to hostess bars you walk in you choose a girl that you'd like to hang out with but depending on the establishment you can get either full service or almost full service and that can cost you anywhere between sometimes a hundred dollars two hundred dollars the really good ones thousands of dollars like an hour and there's even something called bakkassu ladies so bakkassu is this famous energy drink sold in korea and you really only see older men drinking it so baka ladies are workers in their 60s sometimes they're in their 80s they usually solicit older men that play chess at the parks yes but allegedly and i don't know how or what this means for society and the social context of things.

39:20But there has been a rise in younger men, guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s, actively seeking out pakkasu ladies. Yeah, a lot of the clientele for these establishments are married men. And Oh Won Chun was an avid, avid client for his work. And he was also a married man. He has a wife and a child back in China. He's got a long term Chinese girlfriend in South Korea that was on and off living in that grungy apartment, but he would spend 20 % of his monthly income on sex work every single month. He would tell his friends that he really liked the idea. It was amusing to him that he could get intimacy by just paying for it.

40:01Each service would cost him about$100 and he would throw in another$10 for the woman's taxi ride back home. So maybe the police were right. the man is just unhinged, addicted to abusing women sexually and decided to debone and deflesh the victim in the most humiliating, gruesome way possible? Eight journalists from a newspaper called Donghae Ilbo, one of the largest newspapers in Korea, they decide to investigate the whole story. They go back to the neighborhood where Owon lived and they try to retrace the steps, each version of events. They're rereading what the netizens are saying and they're thinking, yeah, nothing's adding up either.

40:35They start knocking on every single apartment unit nearby, knock knock. Hi, we're journalists from the Tongang Eibo and we're wondering if we could just get a moment of your time. The journalists went to over 317 locations, spoke to over 137 residents and only four out of all of them remembered seeing the police out and about that night. The others were like, the police were searching this area. I was awake. I was outside. I looked out my window. I actually went up to pick up a delivery and I saw nothing. Most of the residents just said if the police were searching, we had no clue about it. the journalists report their findings to the public and the police, they respond.

41:12Okay, fine. Yes, we could have done a bit better. Of course, we could have. Of course, anyone can. But again, the call was only 15 seconds long and did not mention a specific location. We dispatched a lot of detectives to investigate overnight. Maybe it wasn't 35 because we only had 20 on call that night. But we did catch again. We did catch the killer within 13 hours of the call being placed. Unfortunately, it is the best we or really anyone else in our shoes could have done without hindsight. The interviews could have been conducted better, yes, but we searched the area around the scene reported by the victim.

41:49But because it was late, we were unable to knock on every door and search. The public and journalists agree. Okay, well, if the police have nothing to hide, just release the 112 call. I mean, that's just going to clear everything up, right? Let us hear the 15 seconds and we'll decide for ourselves if you did a good job or not. There are some rules when you're an emergency operator, but there is one thing that you're taught. In this line of work, seconds are the difference between life and death. There's no real guideline on how to have a good response because every single call is different and they need to be handled accordingly.

42:24One 911 operator said, people are calling you on the absolute worst days of their lives. The stress response is varied. Some people will call you awful names or some of them will just sob so powerfully into the phone that you cannot understand them or they will scream until their voices go out. They have no clue how to tell you where they are. They have no idea how to even explain what's wrong. Another operator said stress. You've either got what it takes or you don't. The difference between stress in this job and stress in any other job is that if you have a shitty day here or if you freeze under pressure here, people will literally die.

43:00They said the moment you pick up that call, you have no idea what's on the other side. It could be a prank call. A help me, my mom's not breathing. Or my baby is choking. Or please, my husband is stabbing me. In a matter of seconds, it's up to the dispatch to get all the information that they need. Where's the call coming from? Where are they? Are there weapons involved? What does the suspect look like? What exactly happened? The person on the other line is probably panicked, could be actively dying, and you need to get as much information as possible. Using short words and phrases, you got to calm them down.

43:27But also, okay, John, stay with me. I need you to tell me if your wife's chest is moving up and down. Can you tell if she's breathing? Can you check for me? If they don't know their location, can you tell me what you see outside? Can you see any road signs? But the number one unspoken rule that doesn't even need to be voiced is you have to do everything to save a life when you can. The police released the 112 call transcript from Kimmy the night of her murder. 911, what's your emergency? There's a woman's voice on the other line and she's half whispering, half trying to hold in her screams. It sounds like she's doing everything to not scream and cry into the phone, which is what she wants to do, but she's fighting it to stay calm.

44:05She's not hysterical. Is it a transcript or is it actual audio? So it's a transcript. I believe one of the major news networks was able to hear the actual audio and they recreated it using the transcript. So we do have an audio version of it. However, that is not Kimmy's voice. So they didn't release to the public. Yes. Now, they did release the transcript to the public though And then the audio, the recreated audio Is released to the public The woman is trying to tell the authorities That she's in danger and she needs help She's speaking clearly Hello, I'm at this house before the Mokgol playground and I'm getting essayed right now The Mokgol playground?

44:45Yes, right I'm at the house before the Mokgol playground But I don't know exactly which house I'm in In Jidong neighborhood? Yes, just past the Jidong Elementary School on the way to Mokor Playground. Okay, I'm going to try and locate your phone right now. Kimmy sounds relieved. She lets out a cry and politely responds, which is like a combination of yes and like almost a thank you. Wait, ma 'am, did you say that you're getting essayed right now? Yes, yes. And you don't know your exact location. Yes, I don't know exactly where I am. It's past Chidong Elementary, a little past the elementary on the way to the Mokor Playground.

45:23I've locked myself in his bedroom. Who is doing this to you? I don't know. Ajushi, please, hurry up, please. Side note, Ajushi means old man. In this context, the way it's being used as a description, literally an old man. So clearly she does not know this man. She states, I don't know this old man. Well, who? What do you mean you don't know that? How do you know the man? I don't know him. He's a stranger. Then how did you get locked in his room? How did you get into the house? I just locked myself in the room. I locked the door just now. You locked the door? Yes, I locked the door when he left the room for a minute.

46:02Can you please tell me again? Where did you enter from? This is 15 seconds. Just wait. At this point, it seems that the officer on the line is starting to get frustrated. He has all the other officers pick up the phone and listen to the conversation with him. Okay, so side note. At this point in South Korea, all 112 calls were dispatched to the local police station. So the police at each police station were also trained to receive emergency calls and respond to them quickly and efficiently. 20 police officers in the station pick up their phones and are now listening to this woman getting assaulted.

46:3920 of them hear the slamming of the door, whatever locked door Kimmy was behind. Someone slamming into it and they're listening. and then all 20 of them sit there and listen to Kimmy frantically begging for help as a man breaks into the room she's begging for her life she's screaming I beg you please I'm sorry Ajashi please please I'm so sorry please this is my fault I'm sorry the man in the room with Kimmy is not talking he's not making any noise all they can hear is the sound of duct tape being unrolled okay so So they're listening to this? Yes. Okay. For a while, the 20 police officers say nothing.

47:19Then one of them opens their mouth while Kimmy is still screaming. Hello? Can you tell me the address again? Hello? What? Hello? For one minute and 20 seconds, Kimmy is screaming out in pain, begging for forgiveness. And then the line goes quiet. Kimmy hangs up. Time is a very interesting thing because sometimes we perceive time to be moving slower or faster depending on what we're doing, but it is still a very objective measurement. 60 seconds will always be 60 seconds. Even to someone, if it feels like 90 seconds or it feels like 15 seconds, 60 seconds is 60 seconds, right? So the police are trying to say, well, remember how we said it was 15 seconds?

48:03It was actually a minute and 20 seconds. the phone call that the police released is five times longer than what they stated it originally was and now the public has five times the questions why would you lie and say it was 15 seconds when it wasn't i mean that doesn't even make sense and first of all didn't the police say that she never gave any sort of address in the release transcript she doesn't tell them the exact location fine but she does get as close as she can she clearly tells them she's near the elementary school in the direction of the playground. It's not exact, but it's pretty damn close.

48:37She basically gave them a scope of a few blocks to search and find her. With her description and some critical thinking skills, the police could have narrowed down their search to a two to three block radius. She practically pointed to a map, drew a big red circle for the police officers and told them, I'm in here. But the police on the phone, instead of asking her questions that can narrow her location down even more, asking what kind of building she's in, What floor of the apartment unit is it? If there's anything she can see out the window, what kind of stove does the kitchen have? Do you remember any characteristics of the building?

49:08What color is the building? They just scream into the phone, vague, frustrating questions of, where are you? Hello? Do you know, how do you know this man? Side note, Kimmy was incredibly accurate with her information. She was trapped in a house that was 264 feet away from the elementary school, about 105 steps, basically one block away. She was also just a seven minute walk away from the police station Seven minutes from these people these cops yes, so that means they could have gotten there within minutes within minutes Also, why are the police still talking when the perpetrator comes into the room?

49:45They're actively putting the victim's life in even more danger because Kimmy later we find out that she did throw the phone to the other side of the room but if he was not so busy with his duct tape, he could have easily heard them and realized that she called 112 and felt the need to kill her to cover his tracks. I mean, there's all these questions and the police are just evading every single one of them that's thrown at them. They don't even answer a simple question of why did you lie about the length of the phone call? The police just argue, yes, the call is actually longer than the 15 seconds we originally reported it was but it still does not change anything or really matter in the long scope of things because one minute and 20 seconds is still not enough time to track and find Kimmy's location and time to save her.

50:31But since we're on that topic, the original phone call is actually seven minutes and 30 seconds long. What? Yeah. So the call went from 15 seconds to they release a transcript and then it was recreated into audio that ended up being one minute and 20 seconds. When they're asked about, hey, why did you lie that it was 15 seconds? They say, well, first of all, it doesn't even matter. But since you're wondering, the real phone call is actually seven minutes and 36 seconds long. Trust me, you're not missing anything. The rest of the six minutes or so consist of Kimmy screaming for her life and screaming out in pain.

51:09That's what the police are saying. They stated that they didn't think that they should be including all of that for the world in consideration for Kimmy's family. Which Kimmy's family said. Release the tape. Release the full call. They said, we don't trust the police. And we, yeah, no. Release the full phone call. The call went from being 15 seconds to 1 minute and 20 seconds to now 7 minutes and 36 seconds. And Kimmy's family wanted all 7 minutes and 36 seconds to be released to the public.

51:51Because remember, the police said the six minutes, it's just of Kimmy screaming for her life. But with all of the public, the reporters, everybody on them, they are forced to release the full transcript. Now, a few minutes in to the unheard six minutes, the police on the other side, they're talking to each other. And the tone is casual while Kimmy is screaming in the background. They're not even talking in a hushed tone. They're not on mute. They just say, is she at the playground? I could have sworn she said that she was at the playground. Uh, I think she said it was a house. She said it was a house, no?

52:25Wait, someone tell me the address again? While they're discussing, very slowly, conversing about what to do, Kimmy is crying and her cries are getting weaker and weaker and she's barely audible by the end. It's clear that she's been tied up and a piece of tape has been placed over her mouth. She's unable to even scream at this point. And the police knew that. Which, remember, the police are putting up their ears to doors to check residential homes. But that's moot point because they can barely hear Kimmy over the phone. So how are they going to hear her through doors? After seven minutes and 30 seconds of listening to Kimmy screaming, one of the officers turns to the other and he is heard saying, I think they know each other.

53:04I hear the man's voice. It sounds like a married couple fighting. You're shitting me. No. Then another officer in a frustrated tone says, let's just hang up and the line goes dead the police hung up on the victim the police stated the call was 15 seconds until the victim hung up the police stated the call was fine one minute and 20 seconds until the victim hung up the truth is the call was seven minutes and 36 seconds until the police hung up. So, like, obviously, it wasn't a couple's fighting. No. So why did they say that, you think? I think they're lazy. That's what a lot of netizens and Koreans think.

53:52They're just lazy. They think she's going to be essayed and released, and they don't really care much about essay. Wow. Yeah. It's very likely that Kimmy risked her life to throw her phone across the room to keep the police online while O1 attacks her because she believed the longer she stayed on the phone, the easier it would be for the police to track her phone's location and they would come and save her. She trusted the police. All hell breaks loose after this phone call is released. Netizens are ripping into the police demanding answers. Oh, if it's a domestic call, you don't think that she would know her address?

54:28Others were confused. Wait, so if a man and woman are fighting, it's automatically a domestic dispute? And if so, then what? You don't care? It's fine because it's his girlfriend or his wife. He can do whatever he wants to her. Some people were just straight up mocking the police. Hello, this is 112. Yes, you're getting assaulted. What's the address? Wait, I'm sorry. Who's the person doing this? Wait, he's got a knife. He's stabbing you. Is it a sashimi knife or an ordinary knife? Hello. Another one just bluntly put it. Fried chicken delivers faster than the police. The police still have the audacity after all of this to state, yes, they lied.

55:08Every step of the way, over and over again. However, even if they had her location, it would be too late. They would not have been able to save her and that's on Oh One Chun, the killer, not them. One detective even argued, you know, 13 hours is pretty fast considering that even if we had found the victim or arrived at the scene earlier, she would have already been dead. 13 hours is fast. What? She was alive the whole time. Did you catch the lie? Exactly. Yeah. Oh-Wan told the authorities the night he was arrested that he tried to S.A. Kimmy at 5 a.m. So yeah, he did keep her alive for six hours.

55:47He spent another six hours defleshing her. But had the police found her in six hours, which seems easy, they could have saved her. And for those six hours, she very likely thought that the police were coming to save her. They just needed a little bit more time. In Korea, it's typical for 2-3 forensic pathologists to perform an autopsy, but for this case, the body was so badly mutilated that they needed 14 different forensic pathologists. A forensic pathologist working on the case said, It was so horrible, I couldn't even open my eyes to look at the body at first. They left only the bones as if they're slaughtering livestock.

56:26Another said, all the flesh had been basically peeled off until the bones were exposed. I couldn't eat for two days after that. There were even some speculations that O1 started the deboning process while Kimmy was alive. Do you know how much you're worth? But even if your bank account has a certain balance, most of you guys are at least worth a quarter million dollars. If you have a functioning kidney, both functioning kidneys, and a well-working heart, all in, your body could be disassembled bit by bit, piece by piece and sold and you'd probably be worth$250 ,000. There are three distinct markets where you can buy things from.

57:03The white market, the gray market, and the black market. The white market is the legal market. You go to the store, you pick up a rotisserie chicken, and that's the white market. Transactions are typically recorded and taxed by the government. And then you have the gray market. The best way to describe the gray market is resale. It's not illegal. It's just if If you purchase a pair of sneakers through a drop on Nike, you get them on the white market. Then you turn around and sell them online. That's the gray market. Nike did not authorize this distribution channel, but it's not illegal. It's just the gray market.

57:35Then there's the black market. The black market is straight up illegal sales. Unauthorized sales of weapons, guns, drugs, the sale of stolen or counterfeit illegal items. But there is also the red market. It is a subset of the black market. the buying and selling of humans. Human organs, tissues, body parts. And most of it is just to be used by another person. Blood can save someone else's life on the operating table. You can do kidney, liver, even lung transplants. Eyes, you can lose your sight in order for someone else to gain theirs. Even your hair can be made into a wig to be worn. The ligaments that keep your bones together, you can actually have them scraped off of your bones and implanted to someone else's so they can recover from their injuries quicker.

58:18The red market is organ trade, but there is a section of even the red market that deals with dead bodies. They do not care for the organs as much as they do the meat because human meat is what they want. From a nutritional standpoint, some have argued that human flesh has a unique nutrient profile that closely matches the needs of other humans. So I guess the idea being if you're consuming it, perhaps it's more nutritious than any other type It seems like most of the time they won't just sell human meat as flesh, but they will dehydrate human flesh, pulverize it down into a powder to be sold like a vitamin pill, a supplement to be taken.

58:58Experts stated that some of these pills have been made by getting dead bodies, chopping them into small pieces, drying them on stoves, residential stoves, because it's illegal, till they dehydrate and then pulverized. Again, that still does not answer why, though. So this is what those pills you're talking about. Yes. But then you say there's also what super bacteria is in there? Yes, because humans have bacteria in them and there's super bacteria that did not die in there. Now, a lot of the reason that people might take these pills is something called medical cannibalism. It is the belief that if the human body is able to heal itself, why can't another human body heal mine?

59:41the theory is interesting until you start breaking it down and side note before anybody has any strange ideas to get racist about it medical cannibalism can be traced back to ancient rome they used to drink the blood of wounded gladiators because they thought it would cure conditions like epilepsy if it were a really bad case of epilepsy they would even consume the wounded gladiators liver so blood at one point was also seen to be a very powerful elixir it said that fresh warm human blood still possess the soul of the deceased. So gladiators, they're known for being very strong and powerful. And so if you drink their flesh, you're going to get that physical strength and become physically strong.

1:00:21But if you wanted to be smart, you would find an intellectual, kill them and drink their blood. Yeah, I guess you could say it's the origins of you are what you eat. So if someone had a headache or an issue with their head, perhaps a mental illness, medical cannibalistic practitioner might recommend powdered skull capsules, which by the way is completely illegal in most countries and is incredibly dangerous because again super bacteria because more often than not there's no regulations on how the skulls are powdered and ethically speaking we don't know how they get these skulls they might not even be sterilized there's so many reasons why this is a bad idea but disclaimer aside some people said if you have vision problems and nothing you could do to help with it yeah you could eat a whole bag of carrots every day, nothing changes, they might recommend consuming human eyes.

1:01:07The theory being if your eyes cannot heal themselves, maybe another person's eyes can heal yours. Back then, it was actually considered in some parts of the world considered customary for children to let their parents consume their meat. Okay, when I say back then, I'm talking like a thousand years ago. There was a dynasty in China specifically, but if your elderly parents were getting physically weak, You would give them a small sliver of your youthful flesh to consume to give them a reboot, almost, a little boost of energy. You would tie your thigh and arm tightly with a piece of cloth, use a sharp knife and slice off a piece of flesh, tiny bit, not enough to like take off your whole arm.

1:01:48And then you would quickly throw it into a bowl of soup, heat it up and serve it to your elderly parents. What? I don't know. I'm such a strong believer in placebo because apparently it worked enough so that people started going all the way with it and some believed that eating a child's heart would get you as close to immortality as possible which started a whole trade globally not a big trade this is also a thousand years ago by the way of teenagers being kidnapped so that their hearts and livers could be harvested and fed to the elites yeah isn't there like the rumors of like what was it like Petal Island what's his name Jeffrey Epstein wasn't there the whole thing about that to eating yeah so I mean I guess these conspiracies most conspiracies do get inspired or do get passed down from different things maybe this is one of those now sometimes they would literally cut open a young girl's chest dig out of her heart and like take it home to enjoy it's a lot it is a thing that exists medical cannibalism it's not prevalent it's not everywhere but it does happen from time to time.

1:02:56Owen's trial was centered around the idea that he did not kill Kimmy for the motive of essaying her like he claimed since he never actually essayed her. Kimmy's brother argued based on the killer size of being nearly twice as large as Kimmy, if that was truly his motive, he would have done it. He would have essayed her. So the family believe and many netizens believe he's lying about his whole motive. His real motive was that he kidnapped her for the human meat trade and perhaps he tried to essay her at one point, but it wasn't working and that wasn't his real motive. He needed to get her flesh instead.

1:03:30In support of the theory, it's argued her flesh was meticulously mutilated over the period of six hours. Her organs were left intact. The way her body was defleshed feels more like butchering. The way she was defleshed into sliced thin pieces and portioned out, it's almost like she's being placed into packages and also thin slices are easier for dehydrating. Netizens also argued the fact that he sliced every other part of her body except her face and calves. So knee down. That feels intentional. Let's say you get off, actually, on the sick pleasure of deboning someone. Because that's what a lot of criminologists were trying to explore.

1:04:05Why not go for the face or the calves? The face especially. It's probably the most visually depraved thing you can do. And would a sexual deviant who wants to get off on something like this not want to do that? Is it because there's not enough fat on the face to make it worthwhile to cut? and it's hard to cut into uniform slices. Also, the calf part, even on cows, it's called beef shank and the cut is known to be particularly tough and it's very lean meat with a significant amount of connective tissues. So the stringy bits in the meat, it's hard to break down. You got to tenderize beef shank for hours for it to be good.

1:04:38Additionally, there are a ton of odd things that also don't make sense. O1 made about$1 ,300 a month doing manual labor. when he was arrested he had already saved $5 ,000 in his account he traveled back and forth from China where he's from he's Korean Chinese so that's like me being Korean American he's ethnically Korean but citizen wise he's Chinese now he would visit China once or twice a year he would send his wife and children money over the period of four and a half years he sent them over $50 ,000 what? wait two years $50 ,000 that's more than he made Four and a half years. Oh, four and a half years.

1:05:17Still. It's still almost a lot of... It's almost the majority of his income. And he also spent money, 20 % of his income every month on sex workers. One netizen commented, wait, let me get this straight. If he worked for 25 days on average per month for 10 months a year, minus the winter, because, you know, that's construction, he would earn maybe at most with high season, 17 ,000 a year. So how can he send 8 ,900 per year to China and still purchase and still have 6 ,300 left over in his bank account. However, the prosecutors could find no incoming transactions that did not look legitimate. But I mean, I don't think anyone is going to be PayPal-ing someone for human flesh.

1:06:00Owen also had much sharper tools at his disposal. He had a saw, electric drills inside of his apartment unit, all of which would have been much easier if he was trying to dismember and dispose of Kimmy's body, but instead he chose a kitchen knife that he would stop every 30 minutes to 45 minutes to sharpen. Conveniently, Owen also deleted all of his past phone chat logs, his text messages, his phone calls from the past two months, deleted them. He didn't delete any of the explicit videos or evidence that he's engaging in sex workers with, even though that's illegal, but he deleted his phone call log and chat logs why when the judge asked him why he just responded i just would make calls without any special reason so many netizens believe prison is less scary than whoever he might be working with and if he was the reason that they were caught maybe it wouldn't be good for him they think that there's a whole human meat trade going on oh they're saying it's it might be better just leave him out there and then he will get killed by the no it's like for o1 it might be better for him to just be in prison then to accidentally snitch on everyone in the alleged human meat trade that he's allegedly a part of it's like would you rather turn on el chapo or just go to prison for a few years oh i see i see i see so for him he decided that's better because why else would he delete all those chat logs and text messages?

1:07:32It just seemed very strange. Even the victim's family stated, we believe the motive for the crime might be connected to the human meat market. Or one could have killed our sister to supply human meat. It does not appear the motive to be a sexual crime or just murder itself. It seems like it was much more than just murder. The court determined that even though the motive for the crime is not clear, it is highly likely that the defendant mutilated the body for the purpose of using it for an unknown reason. aka human meat trafficking. The judge stated, the defendant shows no signs of remorse even if the death penalty is inhumane punishment that strips a human being of his life.

1:08:08We have no choice but to hold him accountable for what he did. He shows no remorse or possibility of correction. The means and methods to the murder were cruel and grotesque. The defendant took the victim's dignity after attempting to essay her twice and then he desecrated her corpse by slicing her flesh off bit by bit. This is a crime against humanity, one that shakes the foundations of society and cannot be tolerated. Judging by the way the corpse was found, it appears that the motive was potentially to provide human flesh from a corpse or for other illicit purposes and not simply essay. The basis of that being the fact that O-1 spent six hours dismembering the body.

1:08:45If his goal had been to dispose of the body, he likely would have attempted to minimize the time spent dismembering. Additionally, the regularity of size and shape in the excised portions, as well as the careful carving of the kitchen knife when O-1 had a saw and other instruments readily available, and the fact that the portions of the roughly equal-sized meat were then divided into plastic bags, this all leads the court to believe that there was clearly a different motive than just essay on murder. Wow. To that, O-1 denies all the allegations, and he states, I will be filing an appeal because of the false allegations that I sought out human flesh.

1:09:21I only deleted my phone records before committing the crime because I feared that my friends might see my text messages suggesting that I purchase sex, which would be embarrassing. Which is funny because he's got all those business cards and like all these things everywhere. I earned the extra income for my family by working hard with my father in China, not in South Korea. So that's why there are no records. June 15th, 2012, the court sentenced a one to death. He appealed the court's verdict. On October 18th, 2012, it was commuted to a life sentence. yeah they could not prove that he was selling flesh for medical cannibalism but one netizen commented it's hard to say definitively if olwen was selling human flesh but even if he didn't sell human flesh he deserves the death penalty for his cruelty another person commented on the verdict the method of the crime itself was so brutal there is no trace of hesitation embarrassment nervousness this is a person who has given up on being a human being another netizen stated The ruling saved him twice, but killed the victim's families twice.

1:10:22There are other people who do not believe O1 killed Kimmy for human meat trade. They believe that he's just a depraved psychopathic killer and that everyone else just kind of ran with these rumors. But regardless, they believe that his lack of remorse coupled with his isolated social life, almost no strong interpersonal relationships, he is at high risk of offending again. There was a strong theory that he was a serial killer. perhaps that he wasn't involved in the meat trade, but he was a serial killer. And he had done this many times before because that is a crazy escalation for that to be your first crime.

1:10:54But the 150 or so women missing in Suwon were not connected to him in any way. Korean authorities also worked with Interpol, the international police, to see if there were any mysterious deaths in China near where he lived and they could not find anything. Wait, so the 150 women who died in the area or disappeared in the area is just an unsolved mystery? They actually found a lot of the women alive. So some of them had run away. Some of them were just reported missing. And then their families found them a few hours later. And then they never reported that they found them again. It just turned out to be honestly pretty bad on the police again.

1:11:29Your records are not good. But for a brief moment in time, everyone was like, that is what's happening to the 150 women. Oh, because of this whole meat tray. They were like, wait, are there women missing in Suwon? they found out there's 150 women missing, like filed missing reports. So they're like, he must have killed 150 women and made human flesh pills. Got it. But turns out there is no evidence as of right now that indicates him being a serial killer, or at least none that they could find. The victim's family stated, if the police had paid more attention, they could have saved Kimmy. Kimmy's younger brother cried.

1:12:05Despite hearing my sister's screams, the police were just relaxed from the beginning to the end in the call. My heart broke twice when I saw the police's attitude to everything. It's a married couple fighting, they said. I hope the police would tell me it was some big misunderstanding. But no, they were all so calm in that phone call. They are all murderers too. And they will never get Kimmy back. She is now just a handful of ashes. There were actually a lot of changes that were made because of this case. Now if you call 112 in South Korea, they do have an emergency dispatch system that is very similar to America, where it does not go to your local police station.

1:12:41It goes to a central station. Because of this? Because of this case. And those people are trained really well. They also get really good corporate benefits because they're trying to make it into, like, you know how Google and Facebook, they all give you all these crazy benefits and make it a pleasant work environment or at least somewhat of an attractive position to have. So they do that to recruit some of the best operators, they say. They also stated that they're trying to hire operators that were already veterans in the police force. Yeah, I cannot imagine a job like that. This is like the mental weight.

1:13:17And they don't get paid well. Yeah, they don't get paid well. They don't really have holidays off because it's not like 112 calls or 911 calls stop on Christmas Day. So it's just they're a very underappreciated group of people. Not these police. the ones that actually do their jobs. But let me know in the comments, what are your thoughts? And please stay safe. And I will see you guys in the next one. Bye.