#368: Wife Found a Missing Girl’s Torture Film On Her Husband’s VHS Camera

29:53She kisses him goodbye, but there's something about the way she just, she grabs her coat. She waits a little bit while before running out of the house and following him down the street. It's not like she's following him. Technically she could be going to the market. It's also in the same direction. Who's to say really? She stays very far away from Na and he cannot see her, But she follows him all the way towards the movie theater. He does end up going to the movies. But at one point when he's walking through an alleyway, out of nowhere, he just starts sprinting, booking it, sprinting down the alleyway, looking behind him, hiding behind giant dumpsters, poking his head out, eyes wide, hiding again.

30:30He looks like someone is chasing him. But nobody is chasing him. You don't think he saw her? No. Oh, like he's running away from someone else. Yes, because if he sees his wife, you don't hide like that. You don't run like that. He's running like someone's chasing him with a knife. Somi turns around and quickly goes back home. Later that night after dinner, Somi starts cleaning again and she sees sitting near the top of the trash can a ripped up movie ticket from earlier today. She bends down, grabs as many of the pieces as she can and starts puzzling it back together. And on it is a handwritten scribble.

31:08It reads, quote, I have to use her and then get rid of her. Who is he talking about? What what is he referring to? Does it have anything to do with the little girl that just went missing? She was the second girl in town to disappear into thin air and the whole town had been looking for her. Does it have to do with her? So by this point the wife is suspecting of the husband or just she has a lot of questions a lot of questions. I don't think that I think you know when you have those intrusive thoughts and you're like, okay, I am creating a movie in my head. This is not real. I think it was one of those moments because she does not report it at all.

31:46Every single karaoke bar, that's the search initiative. That's it. Comb through every single one of them. Flip tables, look under the booths, look in the vents. 300 police officers are out searching for the little missing girl. They're combing through the back of these karaoke rooms, inside the private rooms, tossing everybody out, asking all the employees for IDs. And it's all because this one post goes viral. An online forum post starts going viral 25 days after a little girl in town named Haen disappears. She's eight. She vanishes. The title of the online post reads, I saw a girl who looks just like Haen, the one that disappeared.

32:26I saw her somewhere and I'm pretty sure it's her. The rest of the message reveals The OP is a woman in her 20s. She did not just see someone like Haen. She sold Haen. That's what she details in a post. She sold? Yes. That's what she details in a post that's basically a confessional of how she lured a small child, a small girl, to hang out with her, then handed her over to two men who promised to pay her for little girls. $1 ,000 per little girl. She states in the post, nothing against Haen in particular. she just lured the next girl she could find, which happened to be Hun. She said she didn't really know what these men had in store for her, only that they were going to take her away in this black sedan.

33:09Perhaps they wanted to illegally put her up for adoption. That was like the weird sick hope she had, that she was going to find a nice little family that would love her and she would make$1 ,000. But instead, she states one day she comes across a karaoke store where she sees what looks like that little girl working in the karaoke store. Side note, she said that she's full of remorse and guilt, and that's why she's posting this. But she also mentioned she never got paid the$1 ,000 that she was owed. The eight-year-old girl is working at a karaoke bar? Karaoke bars in South Korea are honestly typically a lot of fun if you are over age and you go knowing some security measures.

33:50but it's not really the type of place that your parents would want you to hang out in it's like clubbing clubs are fun in the u.s if you're of age and everything is legal but is it the safest place in the world is it a place where your parents are gonna be like yes go every single night there's nothing inherently wrong or shady about them there's bad people everywhere but it is a place where bad things have known to happen just because it's associated with nightlife and this was years and years ago right yes decades ago yes so it's more unregulated yes I'm assuming it's a lot more regulated now, but there have been allegations even today that some shady stuff is happening.

34:26I think not so much in the more tourist areas, but maybe smaller towns. Now, there had been instances where girls had been kidnapped and forced almost into a labor trafficking, sex trafficking ring inside of karaoke bars. There have been instances where children in South Korea have been kidnapped, and they would be purchased by adults in these karaoke bars. yeah there have been unverified internet rumors that some of them were these underage kids would be forced to perform on tables in private karaoke rooms by using fruits to do things to their body i don't know that is completely unverified it's an internet rumor now this is still the very big first lead that the police have about missing haen she might be working in a karaoke bar the missing girl's dad haen's dad even tries to meet with some of the former kids that have been kidnapped by karaoke bars just to see what their day was like, how they could find someone that is being moved around in these bars, the best way for them to escape.

35:25He starts sleeping outside of karaoke bars in the area until the owners will let him into search until they talk to him. And that's when he finds out that his daughter is not in any of them. Authorities had searched through Mokpo, Busan, checking every single karaoke bar, subway stations, even going through the terminals one by one. If she was sold as a karaoke worker, it's likely she's traveling through the subway stations or perhaps even spending time and maybe even sleeping in one, but she's not there. She's not anywhere. They don't even have a clue or a better lead. Usually when they search this intensely, you get another lead you can follow while you're searching.

36:03Someone says, Oh, actually, I remember seeing someone like that. And she went that way, but they turn up nothing, which means the only lead they still have is tracking down the original anonymous poster. The one that claims she sold the girl, the one that claims she's now in a karaoke bar. police track the ip address and end up in a pc bank internet cafe in a nearby town are you sure this is the one it's further away from their actual town there's better internet cafes closer side note an internet cafe you can pay money to log on to one of their computers and use their wi-fi they usually have food and snacks and really fast wi-fi so a lot of people will specifically go to play games but why would she go all the way here to write her post if she's from our town They walk inside.

36:49Hi, we're with the police. We're going to need to see the CCTV camera footage from the past few weeks. Now they know why she came all the way here. No CCTV cameras. They said she paid in cash. They don't keep a log of customers. I'm sure now in 2024 in most areas, it's very different. Like South Korea is known as CCTV land. But back then you could likely pay cash and browse the internet with no data trace. You wouldn't even have to log on with your government ID number. I think things are different now. but you wouldn't have to. I feel like there's now limitations to that, but that means she was on a public computer, no record of her paying for that computer time in a place where there's no CCTV cameras.

37:25It's truly anonymous. They don't know what she looks like, so they can't even describe the poster to the employees. Besides, the employees aren't really trying to pay attention to every single customer coming in. That's when the detectives start thinking, what if the point of the post wasn't to tell the truth? What if the point of the post is to lead us the wrong way? Whoa. But what does that mean? An expert criminal profiler said, in my opinion, the credibility of the online post is very low. It's very abstract. And the actual content of how and why she gave the child over to these men was completely omitted.

37:59Why was that passing child in particular selected? It's omitted. The facts of the crime are only two lines out of the entire post. The profiler continues, contrary to the post that says she's now reporting this out of guilt for the child, It is strange that there is no content about the child's emotions on the report. You would imagine one would write, She looks so scared. She must have been so terrified. The look on her face still haunts me in my sleep. I can't stop thinking about the way her face looked up at me. But nothing. Nothing about the child or the child's reaction. The post gave almost no specifics.

38:33How did the child follow her? How did she lure the child? How did the child react when she realized she was being taken away? There is nothing. It just reads, my heart hurts for the child. The expert profiler stated ultimately, in general, it does not match the psychological state that appears when a person commits a crime like this and feels remorse. It is difficult to see the post as a credible one. But now the police have an even bigger question. If it is a false report, who wrote it and why? What would be the reason for the post? To confuse the investigators? Somi slams down the VHS tapes on the table when her husband Na comes home.

39:11It's unclear exactly what was said during this confrontation, but it doesn't seem like Na cared too much that his wife found out. Or maybe he knew it's too late to act like he's still the same husband because he just drops the act. He just tells her straight up, I will let you leave. I will let you walk out of here on your own two feet on one condition. I let you leave as long as you never speak another word of this to anybody. So me is terrified. On one hand, she knows she should have gone to the police with this, but she hoped that her husband would tell her it was fake. It was all edited. She wanted to give him the chance to explain, but no, he's confirming these are very real.

39:46And now the only way out of life probably is to take this deal to walk out and never speak another word of it, which she needs to walk out of here. Does she not? So she nods and she starts packing up her things after years of marriage. She just tells her, you know, this is also a very normal thing in other countries these types of videos everybody makes snuff films for a profit someone told me it was lucrative so i'm just selling it to foreign markets i'm just doing it for money it's not sick and twisted tommy practically runs out of his house and soon afterwards mr na is arrested for murder but not the murder of the girls he's arrested for a completely separate murder this is crazy it just keeps going yes na had plans to end this whole messy thing.

40:30I mean, it's only a matter of time, honestly, that his wife or ex-wife, it's very unclear. Whatever his homie is to him now, it's gonna, she's gonna officially leave him. And she might tell someone eventually, maybe five years down the line, maybe 10 years down the line, or maybe there's going to be rumors that she starts. And it's not even Somi that he's worried about. He feels like he has good grip on Somi. He has good control over her, but it's actually her little brother. Na always hated her little brother, his brother-in-law. He's the younger brother to Somi and he acts like he's the man of the house, always trying to protect his sister, giving her advice.

41:06Eventually, Na knows that Somi, his wife, would tell her brother about what she saw and he would, of course, give her unsolicited advice and ask her to go to the police station and make sure she tells them everything. So he hides. That's what Na does. He hides. July 3rd, 2002, around 10 30 a.m he starts hiding outside the bushes of his house hiding in the bushes his house now had asked so me to come find his credit card which was partly true he did lose it but more importantly he had the whole apartment set up so that he could kidnap her ex-wife yeah because if she's being held hostage then she can't really say anything can she okay so he's he's backtracking now yes lure her back but he's in the bushes peeking his head out and he sees homie walking up to the door with her brother and it becomes very clear to him in that moment that everything he perhaps thought is very true is very true he's never going to be able to control his wife his her brother's around he will always be the dangerous variable so he makes up his mind in that moment he has to kill him he takes out the sharp knife that he was initially going to used to threaten his wife and kidnap her and allegedly hold her hostage.

42:19He waits for the front door to open. He rushes in, ambushes the little brother-in-law, stabbing him first straight in the forehead, then his shoulder, stomach, and back. His brother-in-law died right there on the floor from excessive blood loss. All in front of the Somi. Yes, and he also assaults Somi. Like stabbing her? Doesn't stab her, but he beats her. But not try to kill her? No. Now, it's really hard to argue that it's not you that stabbed someone in the forehead with a knife. The knife belongs to Na. This is Na's house. Na has motive. Na murders his brother-in-law in front of his wife. He has witnesses and he has the victim's blood on his arms.

42:56It's very hard to argue that. The arrest, investigation, and even trial goes by really quickly. There really is no big investigation. He did it. What else is there to investigate? They barely, the authorities barely talk to his homie and ask for her side of the story and she's not going out of her way to tell the police anything. not quickly get sentenced to 15 years in prison and the book closes but there's a few cases that detectives always say keep them up at night most of the time they're unsolved but sometimes they're solved and there's just something that isn't clicking in their minds it doesn't make sense the lead detective on this case is laying in bed not killed his brother-in-law because his wife was going to leave him that's what's stated in court her brother was gonna help her leave but technically she had already moved out so the worst was over and he didn't seem upset when she moved out it wasn't until later he kills his brother-in-law so so why this is the case that this detective thinks about before he goes to bed for the next four years finally he can't take it anymore and he reaches out to the ex-wife's homie this is years after he's already in prison for murdering her brother and this time she's willing to tell him everything i think the distance helped i imagine she was very terrified she tells the detective everything the marriage the tapes she tells him about the vhs tapes and he doesn't even know how to respond it just the whole thing sounds like it's straight out of a karen slaughter thriller novel which by the way one of karen slaughter's books has the exact premise of this local girl goes missing wife checks successful husband's computer and sees videos of girls that look just like the missing girls and they're creating snuff films the husband runs a snuff film empire i did a bam on it which i'll link but it's so eerie similar to a novel what was it called pretty girls right that's what it reminds me of yes and the detective is like there's no way this is real they ask her to describe the girl in the video her facial features somi tells him enough detail what she saw in the video that truly it would be weird for her to make it up it's she has no vengeance against her ex-husband he's already in jail and of course she probably hates the guy but there's no reason for her to make this up.

45:05It's not even in line with how people usually lie or make false reports. And the girl's homie is describing what five years after the fact looks exactly like the girl from the missing girls posters. Even years later, she still remembers all the details so vividly. And she's describing it with so much emotion that the detective just trusts her. He said she talked in great detail. I didn't show her any of the photos of the missing children in advance, but she gave very accurate statements. She spoke again in such great detail. He runs back to his team. We have to look into it. We have to search Na's house now.

45:42We need to find those tapes. Before the police search Na's house, an interesting letter is sent out from prison. A letter from Na to his family. It reads, what did you do with my bag and computer? Not the ones in Gangjin, but the other ones. You should dismantle the computer and break it and dispose of it. What about my luggage and belongings the ones in guangju when you come to visit me in prison just talk about my well-being not this and that i'll ask if i'm curious who did he send it to his mom so he wants the mom to destroy evidence yes but he writes it so nonchalant what did you do with my computer you should probably dismantle it and break it and get rid of it i wonder what the mom does then She does that.

46:25It seems like she does exactly that. When the police storm into his old house, the first thing that sticks out to them is it's almost like a supervillain movie. Na has two boards on his wall, a chalkboard and a whiteboard. And on it are just a bunch of random symbols and characters, multiple different languages squashed together. There's Korean, there's Japanese, there's English periods, randomly exclamation points, numbers. It's, it looks like some sort of code. Look, there's 360 characters used. The purpose of the code is to make decoding very, very difficult. That's what the authorities believe.

47:04To confuse the reader and it's working. He created a code. Confuse the reader of the code. Yeah, whoever reads it. If I walk into his house and stumble upon it, me as the reader, I don't know what's going on. Okay. He created a code with his own rules and steadily he is writing in secret letters. the police have to create some sort of index to try and decipher it and the first message that they're able to decipher on the board is written in large code across the top reads use women financially let's keep going what about this one following the code index they created if the code index is correct this one says king of the brilliant nation i will use my psychopath techniques and I will film pornography.

47:48The rest of the codes that have been deciphered have not been released verbatim, but it has been described as content relating to desires for crimes against children and desires for child grooming. How is this not a movie? Because it's alleged. What I'm saying is the code is alleged? No, the idea that he's connected to those missing girls is alleged. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the tapes haven't been found. Right. But those writing scribbles. Yes. That is not normal. Exactly. So, um, some people say that he was later diagnosed with schizophrenia. I don't know because I think the part that I was like, okay, perhaps was him running down the alleyway, but I'm not sure.

48:36Maybe someone was chasing him or he could have just been on edge because of the illegal stuff he's doing. Like he could have thought police are chasing him. I don't think, I feel like schizophrenia is a very just like a we don't understand enough about schizophrenia so let's throw it on people when we don't understand i think that he's sick everything he does seems pretty meticulous the code is very meticulous it doesn't seem like someone going through psychosis and having hallucinations that's a good point yeah because usually people that are schizophrenic and um from my knowledge please correct me if i'm wrong if they truly believe that they are in danger they will write things but it's usually very frantic like yeah this one's like he's putting a lot of thoughts behind the code is there and he has been using this code even today in prison he's still using the code right so and he's developing the code and altering the code so it's a very long lengthy process that seems very well thought out well planned yeah now one of the other codes reads, I am the most precious.

49:38Make others naive for my benefit. Never be deceived. And another one, a more chilling one, if you consider the timing of it, this was written right after the second girl vanished. And it reads, if they just didn't know me, I wouldn't have committed any sins. If I simply would have not been born, I would have no sins at all.

50:10so again some people liken this to oh maybe he's schizophrenic and he's saying like what's wrong with me i don't know what's wrong with me i don't understand however other criminologists believe the way he's writing is almost it's almost i have to commit crime i was born to commit crime so if i hadn't been born i wouldn't have committed crime it's not my fault that i was born it's it seems more from a place of anger rather than from a mental health disorder. Why would he write it in code though to begin with? What does the code mean to him and does it have a link to the missing girls? That's all the evidence the police find.

50:46They do not find a single VHS tape. They're all gone. Even though the police don't have solid evidence to nail Na, they theorize that he might be the child serial killer in the area, that he's responsible for at least two of the missing girls and he might have been using them to create snuff films to sell to foreign markets. The timeline is making a lot of sense. The first little girl, Sungju Kim, disappeared June 15th, 2000. She was last seen around 2pm sitting on a bench in front of a stationary store. She was waiting for her older brother to get out of school so that they could walk home together like they always do.

51:18Then almost exactly a year later, June 1st, 2001, the second child disappears on her way home from school, just like Sungju Kim. her name is Han Kim no relation by the last name but she vanished on her walk from school she was last seen standing at a crosswalk trying to cross in the direction of her house and then vanished and here's the interesting thing a lot of younger to mid 20 year old guys were ruled out since most of them would have likely spent two years in the army interestingly though after the first little girl disappears Na is enlisted in the army technically he should have been in the army when the second little girl goes missing, but he gets early discharge for medical reasons.

51:57And right after his discharge, the second little girl goes missing. And then a year after that, he gets arrested for murdering his brother-in-law. And girls stopped going missing. Well, there were recent cases where girls did start going missing again, but it didn't seem like it was the same person. So girls stopped going missing in the same fashion. And then around the time that he's arrested, a few years later, his wife states that she found snuff films that he made with what looks like the second girl that went missing, Haen. Now, they theorize that Na is responsible for both girls going missing.

52:32That would mean that both the girls' disappearances are linked. And there are a lot of similarities between the two. It just doesn't seem like a coincidence, especially in a much smaller town, not even a big city. Both kidnapped in broad daylight after school, both vanishing without a trace, authorities said it's like they just evaporated on their walk home. Not at night, on their walk home in daylight. Their last seen locations were less than a mile apart from each other. They had over 270 people out searching for both girls, police from neighboring towns and jurisdictions all coming in to help.

53:03Nothing. All there were were just rumors at the time. In addition to the code, authorities found search results in Nas devices. They read, statute of limitations for child disappearance crime, how to calculate the statute of limitations in elementary kidnapping case, statute of limitations table, statute of limitations table by crime, elementary school disappearance case. And most interestingly, he was looking up the serial disappearance children case in Gangjin, which is where they went missing. But the biggest piece of evidence in many netizens' opinion is the room. On the dark web, there's a rumor that you can visit a red room where you watch live streams of people who are tortured and murdered on camera for views allegedly allegedly this one is yellow somi said the room in the vhs tapes the ex-wife she said i've never seen those rooms before i don't recognize those rooms so it doesn't look like it was happening inside of our house it had to have been somewhere else maybe he rented a different place will you describe the room for us yellow floors windows are covered with newspaper there were strings saws hairpins and boxes laying around the information the description of the room was never released to the public at the time because the police had never seen the videos the wife saw in the first place.

54:18There was no way for them to confirm it even existed, the tapes, or even the room. That is until a man named Minsoo comes forward. He's an adult now, but he said he wasn't when he was in Na's yellow room. He said Na would take him inside this two-story red brick house in a room with yellow floors, newspapers covering the windows, and he comes forward to tell the authorities that he and Han, the second girl that went missing, were actually in the same class. All the kids at the time, even the adults, were saying it was a ghost, but that had lured the two girls out every June. But Min Su knew it wasn't a ghost.

54:56It was the creepy man that lived near the playground. He would lure the kids to his little studio and essay them. Min Su said, to be fair, at the time, Na didn't seem creepy at all. In fact, he just seemed like a college-aged older brother that liked to treat kids like adults. It's not like some stinky 60-year-old ajoshi trying to snatch kids. He's like the cool guy, smoking cigarettes, drinking soju, and he's like, hey kid, you want to come over and play games? What kind of 8-year-old says no to that? Every day, Minsoo and Haen, the girl that goes missing, would have to walk by his house to get to school.

55:28And Minsoo said for him, it was very natural. They all started hanging out. Minsoo remembered Na would tell him, if you want to hang out, play games, and eat junk food, walk to my house and knock on the wall if i hear it and my parents aren't home then i'll let you in it's unclear if this was happening in his parents house or if he was saying that to get the kids to feel more comfortable around him because now it's no longer yes and like we're all just kids trying to hang out at first means who said he would willingly go to na's house to play games then the essay started once that happened means who said he was too scared to say anything to anyone but he does start avoiding nah and nah would chase him around town waiting for him sometimes means who would get out of school and he'd be waiting at the door would not essay mean yes and he would film it we'll get to it so he would wait at the door for means who to get out of class means who would try to run out the back of the school and run through the field and he wasn't even running in the direction of his home he would just run in any direction to get rid of nah but Na would always be there when he comes out of the wood clearing and he discovered that Na is watching him with binoculars stalking him.

56:39It was terrifying. The more means who avoided Na and refused to hang out with him anymore the more aggressive Na became at wanting to essay him. It almost starts feeling like an obsession. He says, I think he had videos of young children. I think he had explicit videos with children my age. From then on he started molesting me and he would touch my private areas while watching these explicit videos or make me touch him. And then it progressed into full essay and it was honestly so painful. It was very difficult. Minsoo states that he was essayed several times by Na and there would always be a camera in the room.

57:10Other witnesses came forward. They're all adults now, but they stated that when they were a kid, Na would lure them to their house on the premise of letting them play games, but he would constantly force them to watch explicit videos of children with him. Some of them stated he kept trying to molest them until they ran away. Minsoo says, He always filmed it when he molested me. Not a camcorder, but you know those really old, old videotapes? The old big tapes that go into the video? He filmed with that, like a VHS recorder. It was scary because he said he was filming me and he said he would sell it on foreign sites or something.

57:46When Minzu was asked why he didn't report it as a kid and only now report it as an adult, he said, now that I think about it, I think Mr. Na was very obsessed with children. but at the time when I was a kid I didn't think like that it was only as time passed and I became an adult and I thought oh this man is likely kidnapping those kids the police had nothing else to go off of for Min Su's case and the girl's case they're able to locate the studio that the videos were allegedly filmed in and sure enough a room like that does exist in town and it's near where Min Su said it was but there were no tapes left behind just a video recorder and Min Su confirmed that's the one he used on me like he was filming it how is that not enough evidence yeah all of these witnesses all the all of these people statute of limitations as well oh so they're no longer even going after this it's in the court of law victim stories especially when so much time has passed is not believed because the defense attorney can easily argue that memories can be edited altered, changed over time, were completely false.

58:54So they don't have concrete, concrete evidence. And the statute of limitations is almost coming to an end. So it's not the highest priority case. Sometimes when there's murders, they will become higher priority when the statute of limitations is gone for first degree murder now in South Korea. But when it was coming to an end, there would be like a renewed search. But this was not that. There was really no evidence to bring to court so police resort to the last option it's not the best idea but it's usually done when there are no more ideas left which is to have Minsoo confront Mr. Na and hopefully they can get a response out of him trigger him into admitting something but when Minsoo goes to meet with him it said that Na just smiled at him leisurely just smirked Minsoo said it was so reminiscent of the smile that Na would give him when he was essaying him he was terrified he felt like he was a kid again back in that studio he said his whole body his arms he could feel goosebumps starting to come out and they did not get a confession until right before na's release date from prison so this is this is the first time he's in prison 15 years yes he's about to be released how's it first of all how you yeah kill someone and then give 15 years exactly so he's about to be released and out of the blue na states that he wants to talk to a detective the detective goes to visit him in prison sits down with him and he allegedly tells the detective you're right about minsu i essayed him and you were right about those two girls i killed them okay where are their bodies near the river the detective gives him a map and watches him draw a circle with his pointer finger yeah i left their bodies there the detective glances at the prison officer because it's time for the detective to take a trip down to the river this is in 2010 okay he confesses so why is this case still unsolved?

1:00:41Why is he ultimately released from prison? The confession he made was not only not recorded, meaning the detective or the prisoner officer did not even write a report on it at the time. They were so busy. It was not recorded. No audio or visual or even written statements. Just the officer's memories. And now I would argue they were false. He claimed he never confessed to a single thing and it's crazy that they're saying he did. He told everyone, I never said any of that. but I never confessed. So it became another he said, she said back and forth. But why do you think he even tried to confess in the first place?

1:01:20If netizen speculations are correct, it seems that he was getting off on getting away with it. Because around this time, I think he knew that there was no evidence and the statute of limitations was coming to a closer end. He gets released from prison in 2017, walks out a free man, then walks back into prison accused of kidnapping, Essing and torturing two little girls. But he is free now again in 2024. He only got like two, three years for that. So he is free? He's free. Is his identity hidden? Just not. That's all we know. We don't know who he is, his name, his face, nothing. Nothing. Wow. Yes.

1:02:04Unbelievable. And the reason that he ends up in jail the second time is so reminiscent of everything else that people have been saying about him, kidnapping, essay, and the fact that a lot of netizens believe he went after a woman who, according to her mother, has the, quote, mental capacity of a six-year-old. It just, all of that seems really disturbing. Now, there is no statute of limitations for disappearances, meaning if you disappear, the police will hopefully, in theory, conceptually, look for you indefinitely. There is no statute of limitations for that. However, if they find you and you have been kidnapped and SA'd, there is a statute of limitations for kidnapping and SA.

1:02:46There's even a statute of limitations for murder at the time. It was 15 years. So if they find your body after 16 years, the killer is getting away with it. It's almost like a challenge for killers. It was thankfully abolished in the National Assembly in South Korea. one of the policymakers said just the fact that a criminal can be punished at any time can give hope to a victim so in 2015 the law is passed abolishing the statute of limitations for first degree murder but it does not apply retroactively meaning if the statute of limitations has expired by 2015 then just because it's abolished which which side note i believe they abolished the statute of limitations for a lot of other crimes as well but for first degree murder because it's abolished in 2015 if it's been 15 years since you committed murder it does not apply to you only moving forward yes but if it's been 14 years it's not it's forever now like you can get caught anytime but if it's 15 years if it's past the 15 year mark then you're free haen was kidnapped in 2001 if na is guilty then his statute of limitations is up in 2016 meaning if he is found guilty of murdering Han he could still be punished for it but they don't have Han's body and typically you need a body to prove that it was first degree murder which is very different from things like second degree murder so you're saying they only had one no the other case is past the statute of limitations oh okay so only one of the girls only one it seems like it's a very unlikely and very hard mountain to climb regardless of if it is not or not or somebody else it seems really hard to bring justice at this point but now whether you believe he's guilty or not of murdering the two girls he was still found guilty of murdering his brother-in-law and kidnapping and essaying a woman with intellectual disabilities and he is a free man side note remember the code he was using still using it in prison he had added 200 pages of code into his diary.

1:04:50So what has he been writing? It could be plans for all we know. Now there are supporters of Na who believe that he did not do this. They state there were no sightings of him with the kids. There were no sightings of him at the site of the disappearances or even nearby. There were no people coming forward right after the crime took place. So how do we know it's him? We're just ruining a good man's life for no reason. We're just bothering him. But the biggest supporter for Na is his mom. Producers from a separate show were able to get in contact with her and she told him she told them don't even talk about what happened in kangjin you don't know anything about it at all our baby is not someone who would do that don't go around talking like this just because our baby is in prison what do you know do you have evidence my baby yeah yeah full-grown man convicted of murder at one point but she says my baby most of the people that were asked about na had nothing but good things to say about him because they were all adults experts say with most child essayers they could be very well liked or even highly regarded in the neighborhood because they only commit crimes with people they can control.

1:05:52And typically that's not fellow adults. Typically those are children or someone with disabilities. They're the most vulnerable. One of the detectives working the case said, honestly, Na may not really be the killer, which if that's the case, I would really wish that he would explain then why he's not the killer. I would hope that he voluntarily steps up and explains the parts he can explain, such as, oh, what kind of videotape it was, or at the time his ex-wife is referring to this or that, whether it actually existed, where he was at certain points, but he doesn't do any of that. If he can explain why it's not him, we would spend energy to verify the claims that it's not him for ABC reasons and exclude him from the suspect list.

1:06:32Finally, rule him out and spend more energy and resources searching for the actual culprit. But he's not doing that. All he did was confess and then retract, and since then he has not spoken about it. but netizens are not so forgiving a lot of netizens said the math is not mapping it's not adding up if it was maybe just his ex-wife then that's one thing maybe it's like an ex-wife who hates him but the details she gave about the tapes are oddly specific then means who comes forward another victim that stated they experienced essay from that and they have matching descriptions of the room that's weird his codes the camera with no footage found i mean they stated it's just too many coincidences.

1:07:12And clearly this is a man that is capable of murder, essay, and kidnapping because he was convicted of those crimes, just not for these specific cases. So it seems, I mean, it seems pretty damning. One netizen comments, when he comes out, he will essay and murder again. Pedophilia is incurable and these monsters are going to keep doing it. Wake up, you idiots who defend him. Other netizens argue, sure, we can debate if he did kill those two girls or not, but he did kill his brother-in-law. He did essay and try to kidnap a person with intellectual disabilities. He did admit briefly to molesting Min Su and then retracting the statement.

1:07:48I mean, even if he's not guilty of what he's being accused of, he's pretty freaking guilty for what he has confirmed he's done. Others just argue that he should be surgically castrated. Others argue sarcastically. I mean, even if he's done all these things, guys, we need to rehabilitate to him and make him adapt back into society it's sarcasm and um a pain point for the fact that he was released after 15 years i see someone just commented that's why nobody's having kids anymore in this country why have kids in a place like this another angry korean netizen commented our country is a great place to live if you're a criminal han's dad the second girl that goes missing said my daughter is still breathing among us with us she doesn't speak but my daughter is still by my side inside of me.

1:08:33If my daughter was still here, she would be 30 years old. Had she not vanished, the family's life would probably be very different from what it is now. Helen's dad still regularly checks welfare facilities and hospitals to see if she might be living somewhere. He said the best hope that can get him through the day is that his daughter was in some sort of unknown accident, had amnesia, and did not know how to get back home. And he has to go find her and bring her home. He said, once my daughter went through puberty, she was probably had lost a lot of the physical characteristics that I remember of her.

1:09:05I feel like she's even more lost now because if her appearance has changed too much, she'll be that much harder to find. Sungju's mom, the mother of the first little girl that went missing, she keeps her front door to her house wide open. They said if she ever gets there while they're asleep or while they're not home, they want her to feel like she can come inside, that she's home now and she's safe. They have never locked the door since the day she vanished. They keep it open. They keep her room exactly the same, textbooks stacked on her desk, bed made. She said it feels appropriate because for her family it feels like time has been frozen since she vanished.

1:09:42They can't throw away her clothes in case she returns, which they know is silly because even if she were to walk in the door right now she'd be 30. She can't fit those clothes, but they can't not keep it. In one of the tiny little jacket pockets, she has a neatly folded bill, cash. The producers asked, why did you put money in your daughter's jacket pocket? I put money in there so she won't lack money wherever she is. She can buy candy wherever she is. If there's one thing I could say to my daughter, it'd be, let's not meet too late. Let's meet as soon as possible if we can. and that is the case of the alleged snuff filmmaker in South Korea what are your thoughts on this case I mean even the documentary episodes feel like movies it was crazy I have never heard of a case like this it was actually recommended by one of our Korean researchers and she was saying it's crazy I mean it's I was watching your bam and I was like this sounds like the case in Korea what are your thoughts do you think he's guilty please leave it in the comments and please stay safe i'll see you guys in the next one bye