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Podcast Summary: Rotten Mango Episode #396
Episode Overview The episode titled "Teen Girl 'Gossips and Jokes' To Cops After Beating A Young Mom to Death" dives deep into the tragic and violent events surrounding the death of Ashley, a young woman who suffered severe injuries leading to her death after a confrontation with Antonetta and Janine, Daniel's girlfriend and sister, respectively.
Key Themes and Concepts
- Domestic Violence and Jealousy: The episode explores the psychological aspects of jealousy and rage that can lead to violent confrontations.
- Police Interrogation Dynamics: The contrasting attitudes of Antonetta and Janine during police interrogations are examined, highlighting their inappropriate reactions given the gravity of the situation.
- Premeditation and Consequences: The planning involved in luring Ashley to the confrontation raises questions about premeditated violence and its implications under the law.
Main Characters
- Ashley: The victim, a mother who suffered significant abuse and ultimately died from her injuries.
- Antonetta: Daniel’s girlfriend who directed the confrontation against Ashley.
- Janine: Daniel’s 17-year-old sister who participated in and recorded the attack.
- Daniel: Antonetta’s fiancé who was in a complicated relationship with both women involved.
Detailed Summary of Events
Initial Incident
- Ashley arrives at the emergency room with severe injuries, prompting nurses to suspect abuse. Despite her initial claims, it becomes clear that she has been brutally beaten.
- Ashley’s injuries include bruises, bite marks, and possible internal injuries, leading to a rapid decline in her condition.
Confrontation Setup
- Antonetta learns about Daniel's affair with Ashley from Janine and confronts Daniel, leading to heightened emotions.
- The plan to confront Ashley was premeditated; Janine and Antonetta coordinated to lure her into a trap under the guise of meeting Daniel.
The Assault
- The two women physically assault Ashley in a brutal fight that includes punching, hair-pulling, and kicking, with Janine recording the altercation.
- Their mocking demeanor during the interrogation, especially Janine’s giggling, showcases a troubling detachment from the seriousness of the incident.
Ashley's Death
- After the altercation, Ashley is taken to the emergency room but unfortunately succumbs to her injuries, leading to a homicide investigation.
- Both Antonetta and Janine are charged with murder and robbery due to their actions during the fight and the subsequent death of Ashley.
Police Interrogation
- The contrasting reactions of Antonetta and Janine during police questioning illustrate their lack of remorse and the trivialization of Ashley's death.
- Antonetta expresses that she is “sorry” but justifies her actions by claiming emotional turmoil, while Janine behaves as if recounting a humorous story.
Reactions from Loved Ones
- Daniel’s reaction to Ashley's death is heart-wrenching, showing genuine anguish when he learns of her passing.
- The episode contrasts his despair with the nonchalant attitudes of Antonetta and Janine, showcasing the depth of emotional disconnect and the impact of their actions.
Legal Outcomes
- Antonetta and Janine are ultimately sentenced to 20 years in prison for voluntary manslaughter and robbery. This has sparked discussions about the adequacy of the sentence given the premeditated nature of the attack.
Key Takeaways
- Impact of Domestic Issues: The episode raises awareness about the potential for domestic relationships to spiral into violence due to jealousy and betrayal.
- Consequences of Actions: It emphasizes the severe legal consequences of violence, particularly when it results in death, and the importance of accountability.
- Psychological Insights: The reactions of Antonetta and Janine suggest a lack of empathy and understanding of their actions, which can be indicative of deeper psychological issues.
Conclusion The episode serves as a chilling reminder of how jealousy, betrayal, and domestic strife can culminate in tragic outcomes. It calls into question the underlying motivations behind violent actions and the societal implications of domestic violence. The narrative is both haunting and thought-provoking, leaving listeners to grapple with the complexities of human emotions and the consequences of unchecked rage.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03What would be considered a normal reaction to have when detectives come to your door and they tell you the other woman that your fiance has been seeing she's dead it's nighttime the hallway of the apartment complex is not well lit it's pretty dark but the two homicide detectives they don't have time to waste they knock on the door to daniel's apartment until it swings open and instead of daniel standing there they see two women one of them is definitely older she's 27 her name is antoneta she clearly seems like she's the one in charge when she opens this door the other girl Janine she's 17 and she has this energy that's that's similar to those side girl in the movies that one follower of the mean girl who just follows the main character mean girl around smirking in the background while she's bullying other people that is the 17 year old Janine's aura Antonetta leans up against the doorframe Janine the side character is like behind her leaning up against the wall her hip is popped out on one side hey i'm detective carter with the county police are you antonetta yes hi we know that there was an incident that happened earlier yeah has anyone called you about it since no was somebody supposed to well we just got another call about it so i guess the girl the woman her fiance was seeing went to the hospital okay and she died she died both of them are quiet for like a moment janine the little follower girl her hand is still propped up against the wall she's not even faced she doesn't even change her position she has a reaction of someone telling her that a random person on the other side of the world is dead actually less reaction than that the officers continue she's dead and we know that there was an altercation that happened before yeah and that was mutual she came here yet we understand that yeah I mean I wasn't gonna kill anybody I'm not that person I get it I get it yeah I get it but because of that we have to kind of talk to you guys and get a bit more of a formal statement sure okay um wow I'm so sorry about that that was not my intention um I've just been mentally going through a lot I have bipolar depression and I'm just going through a lot right now and you know I came up here from up north with my fiance I came here with my fiance to start a new life buy a house everything like that and I just never expected him to basically cheat on me with someone at the workplace, you know what I'm saying?
2:48It was not the reaction most people were expecting when Antonetta is told that her fiance's love interest is dead, especially when she's the one responsible.
3:21We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the National Network to End Domestic Violence, a non-profit organization dedicated to creating a social, political, and economic environment in which partner-related, workplace-related, and stalking violence no longer exists. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing team. And we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support as we work on our mission to be worthy advocates As always full show notes are available at rottenmangopodcast.com. Now with that being said, let's get started What does one do when they find out that their partner is cheating on them?
3:56One person said that they held a mock funeral for their relationship to mourn the death of their marriage They went and they buried all of their photos together They held eulogies with all of their friends for what the relationship was like in their lives and then they walked away to grieve. Another person said they just immediately started throwing everything out of the house. That was the only appropriate response she felt in that moment. She just wanted to get rid of everything that had to do with him. Gone, go away. There needed to be a new space that was untainted by their whole relationship.
4:29Antonetta, on the other hand, had quite a unique reaction, I guess you could say. Antonetta and Daniel had been together for the past five years. They have a child together and for the past five years, ever since she became a mom to his baby, this is her main priority. All she does when she wakes up till the moment that she hits the bed and goes to sleep is think about her two babies. So she has one with Daniel and another one from a previous relationship. She doesn't have time for her friends anymore. She doesn't have time for her family. She has nobody but Daniel and their kids and maybe Daniel's little sister, Janine.
5:04That's it. Antonetta feels like she's gotten even more isolated because they moved all the way from Buffalo, New York, down to Georgia to start this new life. And one day she's cooking, cleaning, working from home, taking care of the kids when Daniel's little 17-year-old sister, Janine, turns to her and says, oh, and I forgot to tell you, Daniel is cheating on you. This just confirmed what Antonetta has been feeling since they moved to Georgia. She knew it. She could feel it in her intuition and this is gonna make her lose her mind. She says, I work from home. I'm in this house 24 seven. I cook, clean and work.
5:43That's all I do all day long. It's probably why I lost my mind. What do you mean he's cheating on me? She has no family's house to stay at. She just has Daniel. That's it. And he's over there cheating with the manager of his workplace. She says, I put all my eggs in one basket just for this to happen. I don't know. I don't know what Antonetta was expecting when she confronts Daniel. Maybe she thought that he was gonna grab her leg and beg her to stay promise. He'll never do it again But instead he says the love interest has been gone antoneta. Okay, it's gone and it's not the other girl's fault Our problems are deep.
6:20Okay, we got a kid and everything so like I have a kid with you I'm gonna respect you regardless. This is his quote But if i'm not with you then I don't have to like I don't have to do that part anymore The romantic part i'm just gonna take care of my kid and if you need help, I will help you oh like he's trying to break up yes wow daniel explains his side of the story he feels like he's not even cheating on antoneta he thought the feeling was pretty mutual it was understood by both parties that they're not getting along that they're just together right now physically for the kids he says this is like crazy to me like it's not like this fresh like i'm over here cheating on this woman i'm not this has been a toxic environment and she's just been trying to figure out what to do i've been trying to figure out what to do but she doesn't want nobody to leave and i'm telling her like i'll leave i'll live in my car i will do whatever but it's just like i've been through this before and tonetta used me abused me mentally and i was in the wrong because i'm a man like i'm not i'm not gonna do that again i refuse this is not happening what part of georgia are they buford georgia oh and tonetta feels betrayed she just found out that daniel cheated on her with someone from work named Ashley and she feels devastated.
7:36Daniel, on the other hand, feels like it's not cheating because their relationship hasn't been good for a very long time and that they should both just move on. Daniel's like, I thought that was the plan, but that is not what ends up happening because within 48 hours, Ashley, the woman from Daniel's workplace will end up dead. There's a saying that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. the last ones to be seen with Ashley the quote-unquote other woman were Antonetta and Janine so naturally they're brought into the police station to be questioned because how did Ashley go from being completely fine in the morning meeting up with the two of them outside of Daniel's apartment and then being immediately hospitalized the two girls 27 year old Antonetta Daniel's fiance and the mother of his child and 17 year old Janine Daniel's little sister and Antoinette's sister-in-law are sitting in separate police interrogation rooms and Antoinette tells the police officers I haven't slept since last night like I've just had a really long day and night and I understand this is all voluntary so I kind of like wanted to know you know or if I could just like is it gonna be much longer can I come back or something the officer tells her no you we need you to stay as in I have to stay okay I think this is when Antonetta starts realizing how serious this is because immediately after she has read her rights she states well I do want to speak with a lawyer just because of how sensitive this situation is I will say that you know I don't go out looking to harm anybody that's not my intention I do feel you know very remorseful about anything that's happened with that young lady.
9:18And I will also say that, you know, it wasn't even my intention to get into an altercation with her today. She came over to my place of residence looking for my fiance. We argued, I was hit, we fought. I feel really bad, but you know, I really, I don't know. I'm just, you know, it's just too much. It's just, I have kids. I don't know how I feel, man. I'm just going through too much. So she asked for attorney and then she went on to share all of this. without the attorney. Yes. She does not reveal or answer many other questions though after that. In terms of what a criminal defense attorney would want to see in a client, she's not bad.
9:55She's not the worst. She doesn't respond to anything. This is pretty much it. But as always, the group is only as strong as its weakest link. In the next room over, 17-year-old Janine has read her rights. And then she's asked about what happened that day. As she's being read her Miranda writes, she looks very serious. Her energy is similar to that of Antonetta's. Like she's comprehending the seriousness, the gravity of this situation. And then she's asked, so tell us what happened. That's when she cracks a smile, flips her hair and starts using her hands to narrate this whole story. So like, let me start where I lead it.
10:33Okay. So like, since I've been down here, they haven't been on good terms. My brother and his girlfriend Antonetta. So, you know, arguments back to back so like we just came back from florida like not too long ago for her mom's wedding and we left on bad terms with everybody because my brother got into like a you know incident with her stepdad so ever since that happened we left florida and it's just been rocky rockier it's just been worse arguments and shit oh sorry i just cursed what she keeps covering her mouth like she's laughing like you know when you do the index finger to the mouth to cover your mouth because you're giggling about something so hilarious.
11:10She's flipping her hair, using her hand to narrate. I will be honest, she sounds very normal. And that's the alarming part because she's in an interrogation room, but she sounds like every other normal person giving a little story time on TikTok. No, you're fine. Go ahead. The way she tells it again, story time on TikTok. So my brother, him being a man, cheats like always, you know, he's feeling less than, So then he thinks it's okay to cheat. So, you know, he tells me. So he tells me who he's cheating with and stuff. Now, me and my stepsister, I mean, not my stepsister, my sister-in-law were very close.
11:48Like so close. You don't understand. Like she's more of a sister to me than my brother is a brother to me, you know? So we're like very close. So once he told me, I was like, I just got to tell her. She's giggling and stuff. The whole time she's laughing and giggling. She's flipping her hair. She's like, hee hee hee hee. The police keep egging her on. Yeah, of course. It's girl code. Literally, the detective is playing into this. So then she puts her hand on the table and she keeps covering her mouth. Right? And especially because right after he told me what he was doing, he told me he wanted to do it with her.
12:26So I was just like, I'm about to tell her. So she won't do it with him. So I let a few days go by because I wasn't sure. I just didn't want to stir the pot because I already know that they had problems. So I'm like, maybe it'll come to light before I have to say anything. Obviously it did, but I still told her. So two days prior before this day, yeah, two days prior before this day, we were just chilling and she was working and Daniel did something to make her upset. So we were talking or whatever and just like, oh, I forgot to tell you. No, I didn't forget. But that's like, so I was like, I tell her what happened, explained and he cheated or whatever.
13:02And she's like, Oh really? She looked upset or whatever. And I was like, don't tell him that I told you because he's going to get mad at me. So after that, he explained how the girl looked to me though. And you know, curly hair, Puerto Rican, skinny girl. So I was like, all right, explained it to Antonetta. So again, the way she's talking is so normal. I feel like this is how I would talk. Maybe not in this setting, in this context, but if I was just talking to a girlfriend about something unserious something that happened at the grocery store that resulted in no negative consequences i accidentally bumped into my sister with my cart and we got into a little argument yeah she uses her finger to emphasize words as well the next day we went to the store last night we went to the store last night to quick trip quick trip is like right there you know does she not understand that she's being interrogated for murder or what's going on no she does not understand clearly yeah i'm not sure why but she doesn't understand but i think beyond that it's fascinating because i do see a lot of comments on her very now since gone viral interrogation clips of people saying hey i'm 17 and if i'm even near the vicinity of a police officer i'm not talking like my regular gen z self like i am suddenly very professional no sir yes sir yeah yeah no thank you especially someone died so even if she doesn't think that she's responsible still like yes that's a very weird demeanor right it's very strange it's truly just a story time on tiktok so then she explains with her finger okay so after that he explained how the girl looked to me though and you know curly hair puerto rican skinny girl so i was like all right explained to Antonetta.
14:50The next day we went to the store last night. We went to the store last night to Quick Trip. Quick Trip is like right there. You know, Quick Trip is like a gas station, by the way. Side note. So we walked to the Quick Trip and as we were walking, both of them are walking together from Quick Trip. So they're just now leaving and we're just now coming. So Antonetta is like, is that Daniel walking by? So now she runs to him and is like, who is this? so he's like oh it's my co-worker or whatever mind you before we walked a quick trip we asked him when you go on your break can you take me to the store he said he couldn't leave on his break so when we saw them walking it was like you just said you couldn't leave on your break but now you're walking with her to the store so she's upset now I mean you couldn't you wouldn't take me to the store and now you're walking with the girl she just explained to how she looked and she fit the description of the other woman.
15:44So, you know, she's upset. They go arguing outside. So we finally got her to calm down. We went to the car and then, oh, and then when that happened, she, the other girl, Ashley was like, oh, basically trying to argue with Antonetta because you know how, how upset her attitude was. So, you know, she didn't want to seem like a little softy in front of my brother. So, you know, arguing. And then she walked away. I went to her and I was just like, listen, the problem I explained to her the problem because I guess she was just I don't know if she was his manager or her his co-worker I don't know but I explained to her the problem or whatever and let her know like it's my brother and you're basically you fit the description of the girl that he was cheating on her with so yeah that's why it's a problem now and she's like oh what did that guy do to me acting like she wasn't fucking my brother but we know we know so after that he went home they weren't very good they didn't go to sleep until like a good 10 a.m in the morning so after that she's kicking Daniel or whatever she doesn't want to live with him anymore she's kicking him out either he's gonna leave or she's gonna leave and you know she's gonna leave with the kids and everything so it just makes sense if he just left so he's getting kicked out or whatever and then I guess I guess she was coming to see him Ashley was coming to see him he was getting kicked out I don't know I wasn't in those messages I'm not sure what was you know that was but I guess she was coming to see him because he was getting kicked out and Tanetta saw those messages and the way Janine leans over she's like leaning on the arm of her chair now and she looks like she's giving the officers the energy of now get this but you know when you tell a story and you move your body to kind of narrate and you lean in closer so that the audience gets the attention a little bit more like hold on it's about to get crazy you're adding in these little cues like you have something so juicy to tell your friends that's the energy she's giving she continues so she decides like yeah now she's about to come see you now i'm about to go beat her up because you just saved me the other day you know that's how it was so she's coming so antinetta and me we go and she comes to the house you know big fight big fight wait so the boyfriend's getting kicked out yes janine's version of the story is that her brother daniel is getting kicked out of the house and i guess he was texting ashley his manager that he is also in a romantic relationship with that he's getting kicked out and she said i'm gonna come pick you up i'm gonna come see you so she's on the way to daniel's apartment and antinetta and janine read those messages and decide you know what let's beat her up okay yes and big fight janina is smiling while she's making her eyes big to emphasize just how serious this big fight is.
18:35But at the same time, she's relaxed and smiling as if, again, she's just sharing a wild little TikTok story time. And she continues to recount all the things that they did to Ashley with this very nonchalant smile on her face. She smiles and she tells the detectives in the room, I never, I never, out of all the fights I've been in, I never saw somebody talk shit during a fight. Like, why are you going to be up and talking shit i never never met somebody that did that she was just like you know shit talking oh and your n-word doesn't want you that's why he's in love with me and just shit like that and then like it was just such a weird fight she just kept on talking shit she was like aren't you his sister and just kept laughing and all types of shit it was just weird she's just a weird person so she Ashley came over to pick him up yes when was the fight happening outside they met her downstairs Ashley was walking to pick up Daniel and where's Daniel inside sleeping oh it's gonna get crazy because none of this is all happening while Daniel is sleeping yes because he was not actually getting kicked out oh yeah it's all gonna make sense in a second this is Janine's version of the story to the police and the police are already putting together this doesn't make sense with what we've discovered so this is not the most accurate version of events this is janine's version of events their detectives are laughing with her they're joking around with her i mean detective carter really nailed this one in the interrogation i don't even know how to explain it the way that she is instantly so buddy buddy with janine the way that she built rapport is probably one of the more impressive ones I've seen so far.
20:18And so she's joking around with her, even when she explains how they took Ashley's phone. So Janina's like, during the fight, we took Ashley, the other woman's phone, because Ashley has a husband. So we were going to tell the husband that she's cheating on her husband with Daniel, who's cheating on Antonetta. And it's all funny for the detectives. The detectives are laughing with her like it's the funniest thing in the world until it's not. so we're going to have to book you into jail. Your charge is going to be aggravated battery, all right, for the fight. So basically just a little more serious than just a regular battery.
20:56So what's up with Antonetta? Same thing. So you're clear on your charges, Janine. So it's robbery. Janine's mouth drops open. Robbery? What robbery? Robbery? We didn't steal her phone. Oh, so you just took it. You didn't steal it? Yeah, and she got it back though. I told you she wasn't leaving unless she got her phone back. We just did it so we could call her husband, but then we changed our minds and she got her phone back. So she said it was okay for you to take it? No. Yeah, okay, that's robbery. Oh. So she's like, no, she didn't say it was okay to take it. And once the police tell her, yeah, okay, that's robbery, she covers her mouth and starts laughing.
21:41Like, oh, literally. The other charge is going to be murder. Murder. You're charged with murder. She's pointing at herself. Me? That's too bad. That's fucking insane. What? And she starts wagging her finger in the air. No, no, no, no, no, no. Murder? Murder? I barely laid hands on her. That's her realization? yeah that's her realization and she keeps trying to argue that it wasn't murder but the whole time she's like half laughing later when they take pictures of her she's posing she's not drunk by the way a lot of people have compared her to stephanie malgoza the drunk driver that killed the couple that we covered recently but she's not drunk she's not under any influence no wow it's just the most bizarre interrogation and the way that she's sitting there she keeps talking to herself after they leave the room.
22:47So they tell her charges, they leave the room and she just keeps going me. And she's thinking, sometimes I see that she looks stressed because we got the original full interrogation clip from the police. Sometimes it looks like she is about to feel how serious this situation is, but then she'll start talking to herself again, like me in jail no what yeah how long was she in there for like an hour two hours the whole interrogation i want to say the actual when she's talking to the detectives was maybe like 30 45 minutes she's in there for a good two hours there is about 30 minutes in the beginning before she even talks to the detectives where she's just singing she's singing in the interrogation room she's singing like no like full-on hotline bling by drake what she's using finger guns and everything i think that's why a lot of people think that she is reminiscent of stephanie malgoza yeah okay so singing 30 minutes of singing the police came in story time story time and then told her that she is gonna be charged for murder then she's left alone for about another 20 minutes where she's just kind of talking to herself and at certain points it seems like she's getting serious but then she'll start yapping to herself again about like me in jail no no no no no no and then she'll put her head in her hands and then they come back in to take pictures of her to take pictures of if she has any injuries or cuts scratches bruising because there was an altercation previously and she starts kind of posing and giggling and then she's like okay let me be serious let me be serious no freaking yeah even when they're handcuffing her she's like making jokes like what just talking about how her bracelets were handcrafted in africa and then she has to give them up and then she's like oh like oh my gosh this tight
24:52so she gets charged or she finds out that she's getting charged with murder and she says, no, no, no, no, no, murder. I barely laid hands on her.
25:13After Antonetta and Janine's fight that Janine just told the detectives all about, Ashley died in the hospital from her injuries. And so yes, now both of them are getting charged with murder. So just before Antonetta and Janine are brought into the police station, four people in Ashley's life are reacting to the news of Ashley's death. And they're all vastly different reactions. Daniel is standing in the hallway of that apartment after Antonetta and Janine are taken to the police station. He's in the hallway with two detectives. He's showing them his phone, showing them all the text messages Antonetta sent to Ashley.
25:53he's saying Antoinette took my phone while I was asleep and lied about me getting kicked out to lure Ashley to the apartment to beat her up he tries to explain to the detectives that he was checking in with Ashley but she clearly does not want to talk to him so after the fight he keeps texting her like are you okay are you okay I need to see you and she just seems over him he just wants to know. He's reassuring the detectives. Is she hurt? Like real bad? So honestly, I'm not going to make a show. I'm just going to, I'm not going to go and yell. I'm not going to call her. I just want to know, is she okay?
26:33We got a call from the hospital a little while ago and she actually passed away. I will say Daniel's reaction is very difficult to witness. he immediately steps down the stairs, walks straight up to the male detective that just told him the news, almost like he's about to start a fight. But he's begging. No, stop playing with me, please. Please stop playing with me. But when they tell him that they are very serious and he realizes that they're not just saying things, he looks like his knees are about to give out and he starts sobbing. No, please stop playing with me. And his voice gets very high pitched.
27:11Please stop playing with me. please stop playing with me okay breathe breathe Daniel I know just breathe they keep having to tell him just relax breathe and he keeps begging them please stop playing with me I can't breathe I can't breathe holy shit he starts walking back into his apartment and he sounds hysterical the authorities have to remind him to be mindful of his babies they're still in there they don't need to be traumatized I'm never gonna find her ever fucking again bro fuck holy shit please please please please this was really it that's what I said to you after this I'm done fuck fuck shit this is so hard please please please oh fuck I just felt a hole in my heart as soon as she left that shit was crazy I can't breathe I really can't I just can't what do I do what do I do what do I fucking do and it's it's actually very difficult to listen to the authorities are trying to calm him down I know this is hard but at the end of the day you still have your child in here okay Okay, and even as the authorities are on their way to leave, Daniel stops them and he cries to them.
28:16I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. What do you mean you don't know what to do? I don't know what to do right now. I don't know what to do right now. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. Look, Daniel, we got to, I hate to leave you right now because you don't have anybody else, but we got to, I don't know what to fucking do right now. Damn, what the fuck? the detectives then ask about his work schedule which I think brings him to another pretty harsh reality of not only is the girl that he was falling in love with been murdered but the kid's mom his the mother of his child is gone because she's the killer the police ask him do you work tomorrow or you said you work only at nights primarily I work at night I'm not even how am I how am I gonna fucking do this listen you just gotta take a breath and give yourself some time do you have any other siblings you can call no I don't have anybody someone you can call and talk on the phone with no the authorities leave him alone with his children now in the same town there is another man who has a strong reaction to the news of Ashley's death as well her fiance is in the hospital with detectives.
29:35Today is Ashley's fiance's birthday. Ashley is dead on his birthday. He tells detectives, I don't get it. There's no reason. So the detectives don't know how much this man knows. They don't know if he knows that Ashley was having an affair, but pretty quickly on, you can tell that he was in the dark. He doesn't know that she was seeing a man named Daniel. I just don't get it. There's no reason why anybody would want to do this to her. And it was just random. I don't know why. She was going out to get me a birthday cake. That's what she said. Today was my fucking birthday. She was going out to get me a birthday cake and it just happened, you know?
30:13And we have a seven-year-old son and I have to go to my son and break the news. And that he explains to the authorities how eight months prior, they moved back to Georgia from the Bronx in New York because his mom had passed away. She was very sick. They wanted to be with his mother who lived in Georgia. And now eight months later, this happens. Just no reason, no reason. It doesn't make sense. He tells detectives that all of them are originally from New York. His mom moved down to Georgia first and they came because they thought, quote, New York. I mean, you see all the random shootings, beatings, stabbings.
30:51We thought we don't need this shit. And everything we did was just for our son. But now we come back to Georgia and deal with the same shit that we tried to leave. You know what I mean? I never felt safe having my child and her alone in the city in New York because of shit like this. And now we come over here and I make sure we find a gated community. So we're a little more safer. They actually all live in the same community. They live in the same apartment complex gated. It's like a massive apartment complex. Ashley and her fiance live on the other side. Daniel Antonetta and Janine who's visiting live on the other side and like this shit happens so it's like we're not safe anywhere I tried my best to give my family the best I can the best chance possible and it didn't it didn't fucking work this just blows my mind we live in a gated community that's supposed to prevent shit like this from happening unwanted people in the community and then this happens I can't even tell you why this would happen I have no clue I go to work every day all I do is work and come home.
31:51That's all I do. So, you know, if I had any slight idea of what could have caused this, but I don't even know. I don't even know. We literally both work and go home every day. That's it. She works overnight at floor and decor. She restocks and organizes shit and all that kind of stuff. And I told her not to work, but she was one of those. I want to have my own. I want to be independent. I don't want you doing everything for us. And I told her, but you don't have to work. I don't care that you don't help me. I'm the man of the house. We have a child together. I want to provide for you guys but she was real persistent she was like no i want to help i didn't like her working though especially overnight but i was just trying to comfort her and let her know that everything's gonna be okay you're gonna be fine i was walking her through that everything the doctor had told me i told her okay so you got a little bleeding they said they're gonna check it out let's see if they can fix it here i'm trying to reassure her everything is good everything is good wait what does he know so far he believes that she was randomly attacked and is she still currently alive she's dead now does he know that he knows she's passed but he has no idea that she was not randomly attacked he thinks this was a random attack in the gata neighborhood and the police i mean it does seem like they feel a little bit more awkward about the situation because i think they know but i don't think that they have confirmation of the affair so these are different detectives from the one that are talking to antinetta janine and daniel so they they're not confirmed that there was a relationship involved so they can't tell him that yet right so just to be clear just from your understanding this looks like a random beating for no reason from what she told me yes she said she doesn't know who these girls are.
33:39She said she walked out of the building, saw these two girls roaming around and they look suspicious. They look like they were up to no good. And they see her. They see Ashley. They approach her and start swinging right up, you know, get up on her without saying anything. So I don't know. I feel like I'm to blame because she was leaving to get my birthday cake. I'm just glad my son wasn't with her. The police try to ask a bit more about their personal lives and her fiance responds. I mean, the past few days I've been accusing her of cheating on me because of, you know, like she accused me of cheating on her and I accused her of cheating on me.
34:17But for some reason, I don't know, previously in our 10 years together, previously I did fuck up and cheat in New York or yeah, in New York. So nothing here. You haven't done anything here. No, nothing here. Ever since that day, you know, she's always gotcha, but we were always, we always got over it. We knew it was petty. We like to get in under each other's skin. We've been together for so long. Like for my girl, Ashley, if like some girl smiles at me, right? She's like, Oh, what was that about? She gets extremely jealous, but we spent the last few days rekindling. And I was apologizing for all this bullshit because at the end of the day, family is everything.
34:55He says, I can't even comprehend it. I don't get it. I still don't get it. I have no clue why this happened. And that's just what's killing me. When she told me one of the girls bit her on the face, I'm like, that sounds pretty personal. Somebody just doesn't bite somebody for nothing. You know, I just want her back. She's been with me for 10 years. We've been together for 10 years. We've known each other since fucking the eighth grade. I had a crush on her since the eighth grade. Today is my birthday. Eight days from today is our 10 year anniversary. We had plans. I already reserved a restaurant for our anniversary.
35:29We had plans for Christmas. We had so many plans. I mean, she's not that kind of woman that would back down from anybody. And that's just one thing that I really hated about her because I kind of need peace. You know, I want her safe, but that's just her mentality. We're from the Bronx. It's pretty depressing when the police leave him in the small little hospital room. So during the whole questioning with the police, he stays a little emotionless. there are times where he breaks down and the police will pull him back and redirect the question i don't think they want him to get too emotional because they need answers so they keep redirecting the questions and he keeps having these moments where he needs to collect himself but overall he's able to hold it together very well until they leave that hospital room and on the body cam you can hear him instantly break down into just hysterical sobs they don't tell him though they don't tell him that she knew those girls they don't tell him that there might be someone else in the picture or at least not in this moment Antonetta and Janine are told right before being brought into the police station and like I said from earlier this episode their reaction is very mild Antonetta's first thought was how she's been having a hard time and Janine in the police station.
36:51She thinks this is all hilarious. Meanwhile, the detectives are from both sides from the hospital. And now the detectives that are in the police station talking to Antonetta and Janine, they're trying to get the full picture of what's been going on. Earlier that day, Ashley and her fiance had walked into an emergency room. The nurses at the emergency room are talking to each other about how to handle this new patient because Ashley's injuries and what she's saying happened, none of them really makes sense. The nurses see these large blotches all over her face, head, upper torso. I mean, these are some pretty bad bruises.
37:27Her entire face is swollen, puffy. She has bite marks on her body, her face, her legs, her back. She clearly has a black eye. She looks what appears to be bite marks on her cheek, scrape marks all over her shoulders like she was dragged, like somebody dragged her shoulders onto the concrete outside. Her elbows are completely scraped up. Her knees are bleeding. Other notes on her medical chart include possible collapsed lung, patient in need of a CT scan, evidence of a lacerated liver. There's not much explanation on how she got these injuries that don't include severe abuse, at least none that the nurses can think of.
38:06They asked the man that she's come into the emergency room with, her fiance, and he explains to her that he was at work when she called him stating that she just got jumped. She got jumped and it all happened so fast. She didn't even have a chance to do anything. It was just, they ganged up on her and she doesn't know why. He was rightfully so concerned for her that he leaves work, comes home. She's on the bed, just gasping for air saying she can't breathe. She can't breathe. She can't breathe. He keeps asking her what happened. Like, what do you mean? You just got jumped. What happened? She's trying to explain to him what happened, but she can't even finish her sentence without stopping.
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38:41I can't breathe i can't breathe she does have a pre-existing heart condition so it could be that he gets her dressed rushes her to the emergency room but as they're leaving she's throwing up it's red blood the entire time in the car he keeps telling her trying to comfort her it's all right it's all right we're almost there that's what he explains to the nurses which only gives them more confirmation yeah we gotta call the police this is weird did they think it was him at the hospital they might have because it's just weird the whole thing none of this makes sense they called the police because they feel like there was something a lot darker here yes either it could be him which is a natural thought until you feel realize what happened right it could have been somebody else or those two girls that randomly jumped her they still need to get arrested because you can't just randomly jump somebody that's crazy so they call the police but it's very tricky when the patient does not want the police involved in fact she tells the officers on the phone she doesn't even know why the nurses called them in the first place she says it's fine the situation is just weird but she doesn't want to press charges it's not that big of a deal she's just waiting for a taxi this is what she tells the police she was waiting for a taxi when these two women walk up towards her behaving suspiciously and they start whispering to each other and the only thing that she hears them say is yeah she matches the description and they just start jumping her beating her she said she doesn't know who they are why they randomly attacked her they probably mistook her for somebody else is her best guess but obviously the police don't really believe her in fact they have several reports that indicate that this was a very personal attack the police just try to verify with her.
40:30But once again, you don't want the police involved. You don't want anything documented. You just want to go about your way. Correct. Well, I really hope you feel better. And if you have any more questions for me, just call the police department back and ask for Officer King. She's not going to get the chance to because after the CT scans, the doctors realize her injuries are so much worse than they thought. She has extensive blunt force trauma to the head, which has led to hemorrhaging in the brain, she ends up passing away. Her cause of death is listed as generalized trauma. Her manner of death is homicide.
41:05Clearly, Antonetta and Janine did something to her. But exactly what? Just three hours prior before her passing, a call comes into 911 from a leasing agent at the apartment complex, Preston Hills Apartments. The leasing agent is on with 911 and she's almost live updating the operator on what's going on at the apartment complex right now. First, she's explaining she's driving into work and in the parking lot in the distance, like on the back road, back road of this apartment complex, she sees what looks like a big dog on the ground or something. I don't know. It looked like a pet. But as she drives closer, she sees, oh, it's not a pet.
41:44It's two girls on the ground fighting. It's a bunch of and arguing either. They're on the ground, the concrete. They're kicking, slamming, punching. They're down on the ground. And naturally, the leasing agent has zero intention of getting out of the car, but she's still brave. She's rolling by in her car, these three people fighting, and she tells them to stop, stop the fight. One of them looks up at her, pauses, and goes back to slamming down the other girl's head onto the cold concrete, onto the pavement. The leasing agent drives to our office, immediately calls 911, one and she remembers seeing one person sitting on top of Ashley.
42:23At this point, Ashley is forced to lay on her stomach on the cold concrete floor. Somebody is sitting on top of her, holding her down onto the ground while simultaneously punching her, slamming her head around, physically grabbing at her head, pulling it around, punching it. Just so much is happening. And the third person is standing next to the two and it looks like she's recording on their phone. And then she'll randomly go in and just kick Ashley while she's down on the ground and then go back to recording. The leasing agent tells the operator they're jumping her. I mean, it's so clear this girl, Ashley, is not fighting back.
42:57She's down. She's a small girl. They're jumping her. And she also hears one of them scream, I will murder you. I will murder you. She can see them through the leasing office window. And when they finally get up, she can this giant red splotch on her head. She could tell it's blood. She's bleeding. There looks to be a tiny bit of blood on one of the offending parties, the one that's beating her. But it's hard to say for certain if it's Ashley's blood or she's also injured. But then something very strange happens. They are no longer fighting. All three of them get up and now they're walking towards an apartment unit together.
43:35Nobody's getting dragged. I mean, nobody seems happy, but they're just walking back to the apartment now? The police later pieced together that after Antonetta and Janine lure Ashley out to their side of the neighborhood, pretending to be Daniel, texting Ashley on Daniel's phone while Daniel is asleep, acting like he's going to meet her outside. They come tackle her to the ground, attack her. And when they decide they've gotten all their sick anger out, they grab Ashley's phone and threatened to call her fiance using her phone. They start walking back to Daniel's apartment with Ashley's phone and they lock her outside.
44:12Ashley is standing outside Daniel's door, screaming, banging on the door like I'm not leaving until I get my phone back. That is when Daniel wakes up. Janine would even later say that Antonetta actually helped Daniel wake up and said, hey, the love of your life is outside. Basically, like your side bitch is outside is kind of how she describes it. He better get the door. Eventually, Daniel gets Ashley her phone back and she leaves. And not long after that, she arrives at the hospital and the police show up to their unit to question them. At this point, because the leasing agent had called about this fight, Ashley is not deceased yet.
44:49At this point, she's at the hospital. The police are in Daniel's apartment and they're trying to investigate what this altercation was about. And Tanetta opens the door and she starts walking out towards the officers and she's ready to tell them everything. Antonetta has a very good explanation for why she beat up Ashley. She states that Ashley had come here looking for her man. She was banging on the door telling her to open it so that they could fight some more. Antonetta is ranting to the officers. This girl, she came to my house. She's been sleeping with my fiance. She works over there. She's his manager and she keeps forcing him to have sex with her after he cut it off or she's gonna fire him.
45:27We ended up fighting right there because she approached my home. This is my home. She lives all the way over there. The officers point at Daniel. And this is your fiance? Yes, my fiance. I've known him for five years, okay? We moved here together from up north. He's worked at Floor and Decor. He's been sleeping with his manager. And that's who was here? Yes, he's been sleeping with his manager. And I've been feeling it for some time now. Yesterday, I'm walking to Quick Trip, the gas station. I see them walking together and you're a woman, you know, your intuition. I know that's the girl. I've seen her.
46:03We argued yesterday. He broke it up. It was fine. And this morning now she's calling, calling, texting, texting, texting, saying that she's going to be coming here. So I waited for her and then I fought her because I'm just enraged now. I'm very heartbroken. You see, I started packing my stuff yesterday. Nothing is even in bags because I'm just mentally out of it right now because this is a person that I wanted to grow old with. This is the person that I wanted to share my life with and I feel dirty. I feel disgusting. I feel heartbroken and I feel stupid, but I'm okay right now. I'm not going to go out hating anybody, hitting anybody.
46:36I'm not a menace to society. I'm just very heartbroken that the person I love has been doing this to me. This is on camera? Yes. They break another rule, which is do not lie to the authorities. So these girls they just be breaking all the rules on what not to do with the police the police asked the two girls so did y 'all come to meet up so y 'all could fight or nope she came here to meet with him and then i caught her and i beat her up she's actually cheating on her family too go figure you know husband and kids i hope her husband finds the hell out because why do i have to be the only one in shambles in my life.
47:17Is that y 'all's kid together? The officer is pointing at the kid, presumably watching TV in the apartment. So most of the footage is blurred because there are children in the background. Yes. Beautiful. Right. Who would want to lose a family like that? Who would want to? Beautiful kid. I hope you guys understand. I'm not crazy. I'm really peaceful. I'm just heartbroken. You know, I'm just very heartbroken. You know, I never thought I would have to deal with this never in my life you know at one point the officers asked them to describe what Ashley looks like and Antoinette tells officers Hispanic black hair with highlights messed up teeth a big jaw don't know what he sees in her and weight just like estimate well like 80 pounds I hope she's not on drugs I hope I didn't catch anything lord god because I guess some people lose a lot of weight when they're on drugs, which there's no indication that Ashley was on drugs.
48:11Another quick tip that I feel like a lot of criminal defense attorneys would give, not that I am one, but just in general life tip that gets broken multiple times by both Antonetta and Janine is do not advertise any characteristics in yourself that might be connected to criminal behavior. For example, to say things like, I'm really sneaky. I'm super secretive. I'm good at hiding stuff probably not something to advertise to the authorities at one point Antonita tells officers i'm a pretty good fighter to emphasize how she does not have as many injuries as ashley does because she's a pretty good fighter what another advisory would be do not verbalize intent to commit further crimes but Antonita tells the officer straight up it would be bad for her to come back over here i mean if you guys want me to call her i'll call her you know i handle the situation, but I'm not just going to go looking for her just to let you guys know.
49:03I'm not going to go on a manhunt for her. I don't care. I already handled my business. Do you want anything done to her? Nope. Nope. I think she's got enough, you know? Well, she's got to learn to fight. If you're going to cheat on somebody, you got to learn how to fight. You know what I'm saying? Like know your side as a mistress. If she comes back here, I will call you guys. And if she doesn't leave then I'm just gonna beat her up again I'm just letting you guys know near the end of the initial conversation with the authorities and Tanetta jokes I wish you guys could just take me away for the week I really need a break from this house and the officer pauses and responds be careful what you wish for seriously be careful what you wish for because I know you say you want a weekend away from your family in the house but when it comes down to it you will probably have a quick change of heart wow so this is before ashley passed away yes so everyone's is still just investigating as like a little fight yes it's like a violent altercation and if it's hard um it seems like all parties could technically be charged but if it's mutual it's it's hard to yeah it seems like most likely at this point the police their verbiage and the way that they're responding to the situation is if all parties want to drop it they'll just drop it they're not going to arrest anybody is the vibe that they're giving right so they're coming back later after the hospital they come back after the hospital confirms that ashley is dead the same day or the same night yeah so the the fight happened early in the morning and they come back at night because now it's it's a big crime it's a big deal this is why a lot of people say there is the whole one punch thing.
50:49Punching someone anywhere is bad. Punching someone anywhere in the head, you just cannot predict how one punch can literally kill somebody. And when that happens, it's murder. You can't say, oh, I didn't know it was going to kill them.
51:14once the authorities come back after ashley's death now this is when they go through daniel's phone and they're trying to really piece together how mutual this alleged altercation was was it really that ashley was coming to meet daniel and maybe she was trying to fight antoneta first because that's how Antoinette is making it seem from earlier that day. But when they go through Daniel's phone, he is confirming to them that absolutely these are not his text messages that he sent to Ashley. When did they tell Antoinette? At night. Okay, did you see that part? Yes, that was in the beginning of the episode.
51:51She's in the doorway that night and they say she died. And she just goes, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. That was not my intention. I'm just going through a really hard time right now I have bipolar depression yeah so Daniel is showing the authorities the phone showing the messages the text read from Ashley and this seems like from Ashley and Daniel at this point Ashley responds that's all I have to give which is me no more no less I don't have it in me to be pretending to be something or someone else Daniel responds thank you for being you I can't wait to see you beautiful me too go to bed darling your ass has been through enough for the day even though I don't want to stop talking to you but you need to relax a bit the messages stop and later Antonetta messages Ashley pretending to be Daniel where you at I need to see you lol I'm in bed I want you here so bad meet me please I'm going through it I got kicked out are you serious all right let me put on something real quick all right i'm outside ashley responds okay i'm about to come out how long right now i'm grabbing my keys i'm downstairs so they're coordinating where in the apartment complex she's walking and she's responding things like okay meet me in the back okay we're meeting here but it's not daniel meeting ashley because he's asleep it's entonetta and janine this is morning this is morning.
53:19He was still asleep while they're outside assaulting Ashley. He was still asleep while they were outside assaulting Ashley. And it wasn't until they came back with Ashley's phone that Ashley is banging on the door. Antonetta is waking Daniel up with Ashley's phone. Like I have your girlfriend's phone. Ha ha. She's outside. I just beat her up. Daniel remembers opening the door being shocked because it was clear that Ashley was quote unquote fucked up. She did not look good. he could tell that she was beaten severely. He closes the door and he said he was in a state of shock. He just turns to Antonetta and starts screaming at her.
53:55What the fuck is wrong with you? It was never that serious, like between you and me, Antonetta. Ashley continues knocking on the door. She's trying to explain, listen, I don't care. I just want my phone back. Like you can do whatever you want. I don't care. Give me my phone back. Antonetta throws the phone at the wall. Daniel goes to grab it, opens the door, hands it to Ashley. and he turns around at this point just to I guess scream at Antonetta and Janine and he keeps screaming I told you like the love interest is gone I told you all of this like what do you mean I told you this yesterday when you saw us walking to QT together so what are we doing here at this point Ashley leaves to go back to her apartment where she lays on the bed to call her fiance to come home because she's not feeling well and she just got randomly jumped Daniel's in this huge argument with everybody else and the police keep stopping by nonstop.
54:45So it's like the whole day they're just all arguing. The worst part of all of this is when the authorities finally find out that Ashley has passed, they take all of their phones. They see the text messages that Antonetta sent from Daniel's phone. But worse than that is they find on Janie's phone footage of the fight. They see Antonetta having Daniel's phone outside the apartment, hiding behind bushes, coordinating, texting Ashley. They're hiding, making sure that Ashley doesn't see them. Otherwise she could just turn around and walk the other way. Janine asks Antonetta, what if she sees us and she walks away?
55:18Well, she can't get away because I'm going to run up after her and beat her up. They run towards the back of the building. And when they see Ashley, they come out. Janine is following behind Antonetta recording and Antonetta confronts Ashley. So guess what, bitch? That was me. And immediately tackles Ashley to the ground while Janine is egging her on screaming yeah yeah side bitch side hoe Antonetta is holding her down on the concrete while punching her in the head Janine is calling Ashley ugly while Antonetta continues beating her Ashley calls Antonetta fucking crazy and Janine thinks it's a good thing like she's trying to hype Antonetta up Ashley keeps telling her get the fuck off of me get the fuck off of me you think I'm scared of you Antonetta is screaming you're gonna get your ass beat you're ready to die over dick, which she responds, I'm not dying over no dick.
56:09And she responds, yeah, you are. And Tanetta starts punching her head repeatedly. And Ashley keeps telling her to get off, but she won't. She keeps screaming at Ashley. Do you want to get fucked up? I'm going to fucking fuck you up. Say hi to Daniel. You know, he said I could come out here and fuck you up, right? You know that, right? He's in the house with our son, bitch. He said that I could fuck you up. That's what we do. If I get mad and I'm leaving, he feels sad and says, I can fuck her up. So that's what I'm doing. I'm fucking you up. While Antonetta is holding her down, the leasing agent drives by, but she's not able to stop them from fighting.
56:44She drives off and calls 911 while Antonetta is threatening. You're his manager, right? I'm going to get you fired. That's a conflict of interest. You're fucking my N-word while he's on the clock. Fucking my trying to ruin his family, bitch. Antoinette starts swinging her around by her hair slamming her onto the ground screaming are you fucking kidding me I will murder you I will murder you I will fucking murder you I will do fucking worse to you he doesn't care for you to get your ass beat he let me do this he let me you're gonna get fucking fired you're gonna get fucking fired Antoinette continues to punch her over and over and then asks you want some of this Janine she responds yeah I fucking do and she puts the phone down or it seems like she's holding the phone so it's pointing towards the sky because she's she goes in to kick Ashley in the back multiple times and Ashley is very small Antonetta is still on her violent monologue you messed with a crazy ass bitch and he knows I'm crazy you're looking dumb bitch go home Ashley asks for her phone back at this point they take her phone but Antonetta tells her you ready to die for this phone because you're gonna have to die for this phone if you want it back she threatens to jump her if she wants her phone back she's getting jumped you want the phone fight both our asses we will fuck you up you're a proud side hoe get the fuck out of my face you're jumping both of us for your phone I don't care if you're done go away report it's stolen bitch go get out of my face you're not getting your phone fucking lying ass bitch no you're getting jumped all up in my fucking business proud side hoe proud side ho why would you walk over here to my house fucking dummy you want it you're gonna get jumped for it point blank period you really fucked up he let me come out here and whoop your ass you're getting fired bitch i'm calling your corporate saying you're abusing your employees and fucking them and holding it against them i'm calling the corporate office tomorrow come to my doorstep and you're gonna get your ass beat again and the sisters are recording all of it yes
58:48wow yeah while ashley is hospitalized after this so they go back to the apartment daniel wakes up gives ashley her phone back while she's hospitalized daniel is desperately trying to get in contact with her texting can i see you the cops are here you you want me to tell them what happened and she said no i'm good leave me alone please talk to me my face is all fucked up and i can't breathe. Fuck texting. Can you please just talk to me? Can I, can I get you please? Why was it a whole setup? He responds, can you pick up for me? I don't want to call you and seem like I'm harassing you. Please pick up.
59:23She responds, I don't really want to talk right now. Ashley, can I see you please? I can't breathe and my heart is skipping a beat. I'm on foot to urgent care. Bye. No way, please. Your fucking sister kicked me in the back by my heart and chest i was good till she did that so a lot of people question why janine was also charged with murder and it's likely because of this text message and the footage of her kicking her she say i was good until your sister kicked me from the back yes ashley i really with all my good intentions want to see you and check on you i feel sad and i can't believe your face and body is hurt talk to me or let me see you fuck i'm sorry it hurts to see you like this please she does not respond janine does not know that the police have the video on her phone nor does she know that ashley texted daniel her brother all of this she doesn't know any of this instead janine thinks she and the officers are buddy buddy she thinks they're friends she has no clue that her beyond idiotic strange behavior is going to be the reason she goes viral at one point the authorities i guess in an attempt to build rapport they asked janine you seem kind of athletic did you play sports when you were in school no no no no oh okay janine's giggling do i do i really look athletic yeah you look athletic the male detective says you got some shoulders on you to which janine laughs and covers her face with her hands and then she keeps moving her hair around now why would you do that why would you do that you don't know if i'm insecure about these shoulders oh i will apologize if you are it's just she she genuinely thinks they're all friends having a blast they're a little you know they're a little thick they're fine so what happened in the fight did ashley hurt you do i see some scratch marks on your neck do i have some scratch marks no no no it wasn't jumping oh i see will you tell us a little bit about what happened like Like, how did it happen?
1:01:22Oh, it was very vivid. It just happened so fast, you know? Fights are like a blur when it happens typically. But where was Ashley? I know you said earlier that she came looking for your brother. She came because he was moving. He was getting kicked out and she wanted to be a little writer when she knows she's a side chick and she's got a husband at home. Like, girl, she knows she's breaking up a happy home. How did you make contact with her? Through messages like, you know, we seen her. Where did you guys meet up? she was in our complex I guess she lives like right near us like I think there's like two sides of the complex you know that hill it goes around and then like it goes up and around but there's another complex that looks just like the same so did she just knock on the door at first or you guys just saw her outside outside she didn't knock she didn't get the chance to because like oh yeah you got that bitch coming around uh I'm about to be around so yeah you know it wasn't really like bitch it was just like yeah you came to see my you know who it was because she got ready to you know it's just fighting it's just fighting who is fighting the girl in Antoinette the detective is very quick on her feet she's been the whole detective carter is the way that her cadence mirrors janine and she asks everybody no no no girl you didn't get in on it nah of course you did i know you did okay fine just a little bit just a little bit just a little bit because you told me that's your home girl and tonight is your home girl you know so tell us about that how did that happen i didn't go crazy though because she's small as hell like you're enough already i don't need to be punching her dragging her i don't need to do all of that i'm good i get my little hit in and then um that's it where did you get in at though uh i don't know i mean i know i hit her though like in the beginning she got on the floor and I kind of like dragged her just a little bit and then I stopped I was like okay let me stop let me stop and then they're just like fighting and yeah just a little hit I didn't really fight her though because that's just crazy so how did you get her phone she had her phone in her hand I don't know who posts up with their phone in her hand if I'm about to fight I'm dropping everything I'm telling you that right now and maybe don't tell them that right now.
1:03:40But it was like on the floor. She was like, grab the phone and I grabbed it. When she was talking all that shit while getting beat up, like how did that make you feel with the stuff that she was saying? I don't care. She was like, I don't, look, I don't get bothered by people who talk shit. Like you really gotta, you really gotta do something to me. But she was talking about your brother though. Yeah, and I was like, so? So you weren't mad? I can't be that mad now. Come on. She knew what it was. You know, you're going to talk shit regardless. It's a fight. What do you expect? It's a fight. I'm just like, I've been in multiple fights.
1:04:16They all talk shit after they bring it, you know? So yeah, I wasn't really getting angry. I was chill. So Daniel was sleeping the whole time. Antonetta woke him up when we knew Ashley was coming. Then he was like, and then we was like, yeah, she's about to get beat the fuck up because now, you know, you're getting kicked out and she thinks it's okay to come and save you. Like, who is she? you haven't even been together for that long like that was weird so yeah that's where it really started that's her demeanor there is some very strange moments in the whole interrogation with the police while waiting for the interrogation like i said she's sitting there listening to music on her airpod they took her phone so she doesn't have her phone but she's putting in her airpod and it's still connected to the music i guess she was previously listening to what they took away the phone but the music's still going yes and she's singing along to her playlist which i don't know if this is a normal thing but in this setting it just feels very dumb like she's singing and then she'll start yawning truly no clue how serious this is about to get then she starts full-on just bopping to the music for 20 minutes straight she's using finger guns to sing along to hotline bling yeah wow she's shaking her head from side to side she's yawning later when they tell her she's going to jail for murder they have to take photos of her and she starts posing she's like popping out her hip almost like you know those cheerleader photos that you have in high school and the detective literally calls her out on it she's giggling and she's like are you posing right now and they're laughing and she's like okay let me stop you're making me nervous You're making me nervous.
1:05:54Wait, so detective is still playing along. The cops are still playing along. They're like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but I'm going to play along. Yeah. Even when the officer has to take a picture of her feet, Janine smiles and tries to cover them going, girl! Because she's like, her toes are out. Even when they take pictures of her back, she says she has bad back knee and she seems embarrassed, which sure, okay, but you should be more embarrassed about the murder charge. After the detective tells her that she's charged with murder, they leave her alone in the interrogation room and she starts whispering and talking to herself, repeating things like, what the fuck?
1:06:32What the fuck? What the fuck? She'll randomly start laughing and saying things like, what the fuck? I just can't see myself in jail. Like this don't seem real. That's so strange. yeah even when she's being handcuffed she takes off her bracelets puts them in the baggie telling officers that her bracelets were handmade in africa and worse though is she's being turned around to be handcuffed and she says oh my god oh my god this is crazy in a very bizarre creepy moment in janine's interrogation she looks at the officers and says that shit's crazy but like do you know how she died like like the injuries of her death like was it her heart they have to do an autopsy but it was a result of the injuries she sustained during the fight that shit is crazy how does that make you feel that shit makes me feel like i'm gonna hell I'm not gonna lie yeah that's like that's really crazy I'm not gonna lie life is crazy and the officers egg her on yeah and she's not a big girl no she isn't that's why I didn't want to fight her she's too small I looked at her and I'm just like how old are you she told me she was 30 and I'm like you're really small for your age to be 30 she looked sick skinny so they plead guilty they try to get a plea deal and the worst part is before the sentencing a fellow cellmate of Antonetta and Janine's goes to the police officers and reports that they are scared Janine and Antonetta are scared at the prospect of getting life in prison for their literal actions that they are allegedly colluding in jail about pinning the entire thing on the victim's fiance Ashley's fiance they're trying to say that after Ashley went home her fiance found out that she got beaten up by her I guess the person she's having an affair with and he allegedly finished the job is the the new story that they're trying to spin that he's the one that caused the final harm that killed her perhaps her he further injured her at home to make sure that she wouldn't make it or maybe he prolonged her getting medical attention and took a long time to take her to the emergency room she says they're basically putting this on the victim's husband that he did something that possibly caused the injuries and then argue that there was a failure to like give proper medical care in a timely manner they're gonna argue that there were errors that were made that could have saved her life that it wasn't the fight with the girls that ended her life it was a lack of adequate care in a certain time you know yeah how are they still like be able to talk like this in the prison right they asked her the inmate that rats them out to send messages between that's why she knows all of this so with that the girls are sentenced to 20 years in prison because they pled guilty wow so they both each got 20 yeah the comments read the police interview with the sister was disturbing she thought she was being all cute both women are despicable and i'm glad they're being held accountable when they told Daniel Ashley died, my heart sank.
1:09:54He looked genuinely distraught. Another reads, the sister is truly delusional. She is detached from reality. She's literally talking to the detectives as if she's gossiping at a teenage sleepover. Another reads, I think the sister was dropped on her head as a child. She thought she was gossiping with her besties. Another reads, the sister is every lawyer's nightmare, lol. A clear example of lights are on, but nobody's home. Another, Janine needs to be locked up forever. She lacks all sense of normal human behavior. Everything is funny. Murder? I just pulled her hair a little. Followed by giggles.
1:10:27The sister is not wired correctly and it's very scary. Some people say, I don't understand these types of people. Emotional intelligence is at a negative. Fighting everyone except her, quote, man that could clearly do without her. Kids that they clearly do not value and will never see again. And what the fuck is wrong with the sister? She knows the woman is dead at that point when she's in the interrogation room. Instead of crying and shitting bricks, she's laughing and giggling. Animals. Another comment reads, Antonetta killed another woman over a man that will move on when she's in prison. Another points out how Antonetta reacts to hearing that Ashley is dead.
1:11:04I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention. Girl, that's something you say when you accidentally bleach a shirt or something. A life was taken. Others point out the fact that she said, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention. I'm just going through a lot right now. I have bipolar depression. A comment reads, I have bipolar depression. Girl, so do a lot of people, but you don't see them murdering people out of jealousy. Another points out what Antonetta said prior to that. She was making my fiance sleep with her. No, your fiance was cheating on you. You beat a woman to death. Another comment reads, she killed that woman over a man that didn't even want her shaking my head.
1:11:40Antonetta, I wasn't gonna kill anybody. Also Antonetta in the video recording, I will murder you. another quote she's dead i'm so sorry about that i've just been going through a lot what the fuck but there are some people who defend the girls someone comments i feel bad because it's it's not like they knew she was gonna pass away from a fight yeah but most people i think are on the path of quote you're in prison now your cheating man is free your child is without a mother the other mother is dead yeah you surely thought this one through another comment just reads i feel very sad for the boyfriend of the deceased woman to find out you're being cheated on the same time you find out your partner passed and i feel very sad for all the children involved so with that they are both going to serve 20 years for voluntary manslaughter and robbery by force their maximum release date is August 2042.
1:12:41They may potentially get out sooner than that. To which one netizen comments, I can't believe they only got 20 years. It was premeditated. They lured her. They beat her and killed her. Premeditated. They should have gotten life. What are your thoughts on this one? Let me know in the comments. Please be safe and I will see you in the next one.
From the publisher
A woman named Ashley walks into the emergency room with strange injuries. Bruises all over her body. Scrape marks on knees and bite marks on her face.
The nurses don’t feel comfortable with her explanation of how she sustained such severe injuries. The only answer that makes sense to them… is abuse. Severe abuse. A beating.
They call the police to report it - and by the end of the night, the patient is dead.
Now the police are left to investigate - her boyfriend. Her affair partner from work. Her lover’s girlfriend. And even his little 17-year-old sister.
4 different people with connections with Ashely.
4 different reactions to the news of her death.
And 2 responsible for killing her.
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