In short
Part two of a podcast episode discussing newly released Jeffrey Epstein-related files and alleged connections between Epstein and major figures, plus a separate Netflix true-crime promo about Taylor Parker (“Maternal Instinct”). The host argues the files show extensive elite networking and attempts to influence or evade scrutiny, while noting few arrests in the U.S.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are named in the transcript (the episode appears to be hosted by the podcast’s regular hosts; it references prior coverage and a “part one” audio).
Key claims (notable)
Epstein’s emails and connections involve UK political figures (e.g., Peter Mandelson) and multiple U.S. billionaires/elite networks (Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk mentioned). The host claims Gates was blackmailed or pressured via affairs and that Epstein tried to insert himself into Gates’s orbit. The host also claims a DEA secret-unit investigation existed (2015) into money laundering/drugs and that “follow-the-money” work remains incomplete.
Notable examples
Mandelson emails Epstein in June 2008; Jagland allegedly arranged family visits after Epstein’s conviction; Gates met Epstein and discussed polio work; Branson email mentions bringing a “harem.” The episode also highlights emails involving Peter Attia (longevity physician) and Brad Karp (Paul Weiss) and references resignations without major U.S. prosecutions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPrince Andrew's Arrest Details
2:04 to 2:59
Insights into Prince Andrew's arrest and its implications.
“Windsor is arrested on his 66th birthday.”
Peter Mandelson's Connection
2:59 to 3:29
Exploration of Peter Mandelson's ties to Epstein and the controversy around it.
“He was a key advisor for prime ministers Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.”
Billionaires and Epstein
3:29 to 4:28
Discussion on billionaires’ alleged ignorance about Epstein's history.
“I mean, you know, he can't say that he had no clue about Epstein's crimes and that he failed to do a quick Google search.”
Emails and Relationships
4:28 to 6:28
Analysis of emails revealing relationships between Epstein and high-profile figures.
“mark zuckerberg is in there too well he had a dinner he was in the files his name comes up a few times his spokesperson has stated that it was just a dinner along with other like key investors and tech entrepreneurs.”
Bill Gates and Epstein's Connections
6:28 to 8:45
Examination of Bill Gates' ties to Epstein and related controversies.
“and then the emails get released and it's always Epstein canceling on them.”
Bill Gates' Affairs and Epstein
8:45 to 11:28
Discussion about Bill Gates' affairs and Epstein's blackmail tactics.
“and a lot of people were showing him much love and comfort during that time period.”
Perceptions of Bill Gates
11:28 to 14:00
Insights into public perceptions of Bill Gates compared to his past.
“bill gates has since apologized to his staff for having two separate affairs with two different Russian woman whilst being married to Melinda Gates.”
Bill Gates: Public Persona vs. Reality
14:00 to 17:36
Discussing the contrasting public perception of Bill Gates compared to his past behavior.
“Like this is what he was saying about Bill Gates.”
Epstein's Manipulation of Boris
18:31 to 23:05
Exploring how Epstein influenced Boris to communicate with Bill Gates.
“Now, after having read like 30 % of the book that I couldn't find on any of the big retailers, I'm like, Bill Gates ain't going to fund your company.”
Gates's Denial and Apology
23:05 to 25:42
Bill Gates's response to allegations and his defense against Epstein's influence.
“Inside note, there is a video of the bridge player, the Russian bridge player.”
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The Gates Foundation's Controversies
25:42 to 28:01
Discussing the ongoing controversies surrounding Bill Gates and his foundation.
“And the way that these people scare me, I went through a rabbit hole.”
David's Protein Bar Launch and Controversies
28:01 to 30:28
Learn about the hype, launch, and subsequent controversies surrounding David's Protein Bar.
“To get that much protein with that little calories.”
Peter Atiyah's Controversial Emails with Epstein
30:29 to 37:42
Discover the controversial emails between Peter Atiyah and Jeffrey Epstein that raised ethical questions.
“But most food labels, they stay within like a good lower percentage.”
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37:43 to 40:10
Explore how BetterHelp can provide therapy and mental health support online.
“Also, in his overly long, rather full of shit and carbs statement, he's got a thing with carbs anyway, he says that he didn't know Epstein was a bad person.”
Emails Reveal Epstein's Connections
42:01 to 43:51
Learn about the emails between Epstein and various individuals, showcasing his social circle and manipulation tactics.
“Jeffrey, I can't thank you enough for including me in an evening I'll never forget.”
Investigations into Epstein's Activities
43:52 to 46:26
Discover the investigations by the DEA into Epstein's alleged drug trafficking and human trafficking activities.
“That's not taking into account all the failed parts that made Epstein who he is.”
Epstein's Russian Connections and Allegations
46:27 to 50:20
Explore Epstein's connections with Russian individuals and the implications surrounding his ties with Eastern European women.
“and there's a lot of Eastern European women that were victimized by Epstein.”
Trump and Epstein: Allegations and Investigations
50:21 to 52:46
Examine the allegations linking Trump to Epstein and the ongoing investigations into their connections.
“She was photographed with Anna Chapman, who has been deported from the United States on charges of espionage.”
Trump and Epstein: Allegations and Investigations
52:50 to 53:05
Examine the allegations linking Trump to Epstein and the ongoing investigations into their connections.
“Hey, did I hear there's a pill version of Ozempic?”
Transcript
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1:05This is part two of the new updated Nancy Guthrie, Jeffrey Epstein files case episode. If you haven't already, please listen to the audio part, part one, because we go over the new released Epstein interview that he had with Steve Bannon that's two hours long. This is like the most in-depth we've ever seen Jeffrey Epstein in his own words. Seeing him on video, speaking in the way that he does, to add a voice to this character almost, like this demon that has been haunting this nation for so many years, has been very interesting to see. Please go take a look at that. We also cover the connections between Savannah Guthrie, Jeffrey Epstein, the victims, and the way that she was able to facilitate NBC's Dateline 2019 interview, you, which was the first televised interview with all of the Epstein survivors and how that connects with Nancy Guthrie's case, as well as the Epstein files.
1:59Please go listen to that. But with that being said, let's get started. February 2026, former Prince Andrew Mountbatten Windsor is arrested on his 66th birthday. And after being in custody, that was his birthday that day? And after being in custody for 11 hours, I will say that he is released. King Charles has issued a very rare personal statement where he says in more words, let me state clearly, the law must take its course, which is a very kind way of saying like, we're going to let this happen. Whatever Andrew is going to go through, he's going to go through it. It is monumental, but also it can be more monumental because as of right now, he is under investigation, but he has not been charged nor exonerated.
2:43So while a lot of people in the UK, they want more and they want it more quickly. Everyone in the U.S. feels like if even a former prince can be detained, there can finally be some clarity. Finally, there can be some justice. How come it's not happening over here? A week after that, another arrest is made in the U.K. Peter Mandelson. He's the former U.K. ambassador to the U.S. He was a key advisor for prime ministers Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. He's a labor politician. Peter Mandelson is arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. His name comes up extensively in the files nearly 6 ,000 times.
3:19And he's very close to Epstein. There's a photo of him in his undies also found in the files. Doing what? Just hanging out. Oh. So there's that. I mean, you know, he can't say that he had no clue about Epstein's crimes and that he failed to do a quick Google search. Like on these photos, do you know where are those photos from? Is someone just there constantly with a digital camera? Yeah. That's so bizarre. Okay. What a lot of people have been doing is a lot of these billionaires, especially in the United States, pretty much anyone, any of the tech founders, Richard Branson, Bill Gates, everybody likes to say, I've never fucking heard of Google.
3:54I did not know as a billionaire, I should even Google the company that I keep. It doesn't make sense to anyone because even I, who I'm not a billionaire, I'm a nobody. OK, I meet someone new. I might Google them, especially if I know nothing about them. And if they're claiming to be a billionaire, I'm definitely going to Google them. oh you're saying they never google epstein after 20 2008 we never really looked into we didn't know his past i just thought he was some rich guy you're telling me that people like bill gates mark zucker people who have bunkers are not security clearancing everyone in their path mark zuckerberg is in there too well he had a dinner he was in the files his name comes up a few times his spokesperson has stated that it was just a dinner along with other like key investors and tech entrepreneurs.
4:39Elon Musk, like you're telling me these people don't Google people? Though Musk has not, I don't think that he said that he didn't Google. He's just been very vague about it. So there were emails where he's asking, like practically begging Epstein to go on the island for the craziest party ever. Like this is, I mean, this is crazy because all these other billionaires, they have very roundabout ways of being like, you are such a good friend. Elon Musk is like, I want to go to the island. I want the craziest party of my life. And everyone's like, you're filthy and disgusting. I don't know what's going on.
5:11He's come out and his only like statement, I think, is that, hey, so I've been promoting the Epstein files being released. So it's yeah, these people are so bizarre. You cannot tell me that none of them. He said he's never got invited. Yeah, basically. More. Yeah. But Peter Mandelson cannot say that he never Googled Epstein because he wrote an email to Epstein June of 2008. and this is when Epstein goes to jail on his work release program. Mandelson emails him, I think the world of you. I feel hopeless and furious about what has happened. I can still barely understand it. It just could not happen in Britain.
5:47You have to be incredibly resilient, fight for early release, and be philosophical about it as much as you can. The whole thing has been years of torture and now you have to show the world how big a person you are and how strong. Your friends stay with you and love you. Then in Norway, you have the former prime minister of Norway, Jagland. I don't know if the J is pronounced like that there, but Jagland. And according to email correspondence, he arranged family visits to Epstein's residences in Paris, New York, Palm Beach. This is all after Epstein's 2008 conviction. And Jagland had a whole plan to take his entire family to Epstein's island, but it was canceled because Epstein was sick.
6:23There are so many people in the files that have come out and they're like, hey, you guys are wrong. I've never been to the island. and then the emails get released and it's always Epstein canceling on them. And they're trying to go to the island. That's crazy. According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates and Epstein both went to Jagland, the former Norwegian prime minister's house, to talk about Bill Gates's work in eradicating polio, which, let's be real, Jagland was the chair of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee and allegedly Epstein told someone at the Gates Foundation that he's very friendly with, quote, the Norwegians and could help Gates win the Nobel Peace Prize, according to the Wall Street Journal.
7:01However, I will note a Gates spokesperson states, Mr. Gates has never been focused on or campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize or any other prize, which is exactly something someone says when they don't get one. Meanwhile, in the US, there have been a string of resignations, but nothing that really means anything to the victims, like no meaningful change or impact, just rich people retiring early. Representative Thomas Massey states Over two dozen people have resigned CEOs, members of government worldwide But I haven't seen any arrests or investigations Here in the United States from this Justice Department And it's because a lot of people in positions of power Do not think that there is anything to be done here Kash Patel has basically stated to Congress That Epstein just trafficked girls To himself That there is no credible evidence That anybody else is guilty He states that he would have brought the case yesterday If there was any credible evidence that Epstein trafficked victims to anyone but himself.
7:55Also, this is the same person that went on podcasts to doubt that Epstein self-exited. Cash Patel has even stated to a right-wing podcaster in the past before he became the director, you don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress night and day to prevent the disclosure of that list? And now he says, there's no list, what list? He says of government officials, put on your big boy pants and let us know who these pedophiles are. This was before he became the director And now it's, there's no one to charge. He only trafficked him to himself. That's it. Now, with that being said, we're going to go into the other big names in the US that have come up in the files.
8:31And this is not me saying that they are guilty of trafficking, that Epstein trafficked victims to them. The sequence of events in this video just happened in this way that it's right after that segment. But literally, nobody has been charged and convicted of anything related to Epstein that I'm about to talk to you about. Richard Branson of Virgin Airlines, whom just lost his wife. and a lot of people were showing him much love and comfort during that time period. He's in the files. Does that imply guilt? That's not at all what I said. But there is an email from Richard Branson to Epstein that reads, Dear Jeffrey, it was really nice seeing you yesterday.
9:03Which, by the way, Richard Branson has an island in the... Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Virgin Islands. Yeah. Okay. The boys in water sports can't stop speaking about it. Anytime you're in the area, would love to see you, as long as you bring your harem. What? then five bullet points I think if Bill Gates was willing to say that you've been a brilliant advisor to him that you slipped up so many years ago by sleeping with a 17 and a half year old woman and were punished for it you've more than learned your lesson and have done nothing that's against the law since and yes as a single man you seem to have a penchant for women but there's nothing wrong with that anyway something along those lines two 20th September sadly I'm in the UK that week three I'll copy Peter Norris is there a similar transaction you'd recommend today?
9:49Four, we definitely should be using all the information we gain worldwide to trade currencies and trade oil. If you find anybody you recommend for us, that would be great, but I'll start looking. Again, I'll copy Peter Norris. Okay. The other parts, financially speaking, some people are like, that sounds suspicious. Like, what are you saying? Okay. But more than that, the whole Bill Gates thing. Okay. Yeah. A spokesperson for Richard Branson has stated that Richard Branson has used the word harem to refer to adult woman that he brought along not underage girls and children the email is from 2013 so there is publicly available information about epstein's crimes by this point and he even notes it in the email like just writing about one of his crimes bill gates could say this about you that you slept with a 17 and a half year old woman and a lot of netizens feel like the fact that he even said 17 and a half is so disgusting like that tells you what kind of person this is and these people are fucking old when this is happening yeah yeah bill gates has obviously been heavily in the news for the allegations that he contracted an sti from a russian woman that he was having an affair with and wanted to get meds for himself and meds to secretly give to his then wife melinda gates he has denied those allegations and just he's been in the news for what do you mean he denied those allegations wasn't that email oh okay so i'm gonna to explain it to you it gets a little complicated right and that's i mean even the emails a lot of people are hiding behind some emails could display wrong metadata there's like a whole thing yeah yeah the metadata but um overall bill gates has been in the news for just being chummy with epstein bill gates has since apologized to his staff for having two separate affairs with two different Russian woman whilst being married to Melinda Gates.
11:39Quote, I did have affairs, one with a Russian bridge player who met me at bridge events and one with a Russian nuclear physicist who I met through business activities. He states that Epstein later discovered these affairs, but these affairs do not involve Epstein's victims. And then he says that Epstein basically tried to blackmail him with the information. In one email, Epstein writes to a mutual of Bill Gates and Epstein. He writes that if the affairs go public, quote, Bill risks going from the richest man to the biggest hypocrite, Melinda, a laughingstock, pledges will disappear as a result.
12:10Another email is basically Epstein shaming Bill Gates for allegedly being cheap with his mistresses, writing, so he's talking about the mistress, Bill Gates's mistress. I sent her that note. She said she had little money, couldn't afford air conditioner, was living on a friend's couch, really needed money. I sent her some money. Your friend Bill is nuts. His former girl can't afford air con, cannot afford to travel to bridge tournaments she said that sharon osborne used to arrange the lawyer helped her with papers so she is okay but broke that story would take trump off the front pages the richest man in the world is so cheap his former bridge girl and toy lives on a friend's sofa wow wow who is this email even to which by the way the russian bridge player a lot of netizens are like she's a honeypot for the russians because she was pictured with an infamous russian spy anyway we're gonna get there in a second okay but who is this email even to there is so much this email is to a man named boris nikolik and boris created biomatics capital but before all of that his main role was he worked as a scientific advisor for bill gates and worked for bill gates's private office boris is also really close with epstein like really really really close to epstein to the point where he was listed as a backup executor for epstein's will just days before epstein died apparently when boris decided he was going to stop working with bill gates and he wanted to start his own company he wanted bill gates to fund his company of course right but does bill gates want to fund his company listen bill gates's pr is the most insane shit that i've ever seen in my life so out of curiosity i okay i found this book that was written ages ago ages ago okay and i was listening to this like podcast that was talking about this book on bill gates and i found it really intriguing because i was like that doesn't sound like the bill gates that i always see in the news it just you know they were talking about how bill gates was fucking ruthless when he first started microsoft he was brutal everybody was scared of him he would like he had this penchant for being someone that was a nightmare to work with like the things that you hear about people like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg.
14:18Like this is what he was saying about Bill Gates. And I was like, oh, that's very interesting because Bill Gates is all about saving the world these days. So I'm like, I never really, he see the white graying hair and he always has like a soft demeanor, like very not Jeff Bezos-y, not ha ha, I'm gonna take over space vibes. What's going on? I try to buy the book, can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, now I feel like I need to read the book for research purposes because I'm getting freaked out. Why can't I buy it anywhere? and so i ordered it off of ebay uh-huh so this book is written years and decades ago like in the 90s okay in the 90s so what they said that bill gates never washed his hair he had dand like he was known for having dandruff all over his shirts which is not necessarily a bad thing like i deal with dandruff too but but it was just it paints him in a light that is vastly different from his public image these days and the book cannot be found anywhere now no longer in published yeah like i couldn't find it at you know the local bookstore but it is from the 90s couldn't find it even from like big retailers like barnes and noble that's so interesting yeah so i was like now i need to read it who wrote it anyways he's like a biographer he has a second book about bill gates i think that book is nicer about bill gates because that one you can buy right and then And then Bill Gates released his own book, Source Code, which I also bought because I was like, ooh, the minute I get free time, I'm going to compare all three of them.
15:48Because I just want to see. Because now I got into. This is like a side quest that I try to go on. But no, it's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They said that he was just ruthless. Ruthless. Yeah. But he's like the only one that has good PR. I mean define good but like that soft grandpa PR Yeah Versus like Jeff Bezos I'm like I'm definitely scared of you just looking at you Yeah Whereas I feel like Bill Gates like you look at him and you're like oh he looks mostly harmless Anyway
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18:31So this guy is like, I'm going to leave and I want Bill Gates to fund my company. Now, after having read like 30 % of the book that I couldn't find on any of the big retailers, I'm like, Bill Gates ain't going to fund your company. He doesn't care about anybody he works with like that. Epstein is like, I'm going to help you by helping you blackmail Bill Gates. That's insane. It ended up semi-working. I don't know if blackmail is the right word to use. Boris says he has nothing to do with what Epstein was planning. Bill Gates invested in his company because they have a good relationship and Bill Gates believes in what he was doing.
19:06But it was in the range of like under$100 million was like the vibe. Which if you say under$100 million, I'm expecting$99 million. I'm not expecting$2 million or a dollar. But side note, Boris has now come out to state again that he has nothing to do with this and that Epstein was doing whatever he wanted to do by himself. But Epstein starts drafting emails that he's likely going to want Boris to send to Bill Gates. So this is where it's confusing. So he keeps sending it to himself, but it's all written as if Boris has written them. But Jeffrey Epstein is writing them. So it's like, imagine I'm trying to send an email to you.
19:44I'm going to write it as if I'm you, but I haven't sent it to you to send yet. So I'm just like drafting it in my emails and then sending it to myself. So I have an updated copy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So one reads, I've decided to resign my position effective immediately with BG3, which is their private office. So basically all that to say, Epstein has that type of control over Boris, right? Like he can make Boris send whatever the hell he wants to send. And all that's to say is unless like in my opinion, in my opinion, I know nothing about Bill Gates. So if I try to blackmail him, it won't work.
20:21not that this worked but it won't work because none of the information i have on him is true because i don't know him blackmail only works when the information is slightly relevant maybe it's twisted and exaggerated or it's like uh that's not what really happened but the optics already look bad but like you can't do it pulling something out of your ass yeah yeah so he says i've decided to resign my position effective immediately with bg3 and the bill and melinda gates foundation I have not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought. During the past few weeks, I have been caught up in a severe marital dispute between Melinda and Bill.
20:54So this is condensed, but quote, In my role as his right hand, I have been asked on multiple occasions and in hindsight wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that have ranged from the morally inappropriate to the ethically unsound and have been repeatedly asked to do other things that get near or potentially over the line into the illegal. The things listed in the email are, He helped Bill Gates get drugs. It sounds like STD meds. He helped facilitate his affairs with married women and being asked to provide Adderall for Bill Gates Bridge tournaments. Which is like the nerdiest thing ever, okay?
21:26But Boris states, These emails were not written on my behalf. What's Bridge? I'm sorry. Bridge is like an old card game. It's like a strategy game with four players. It's like a card thing. Oh, so it's not a sport. Oh, no. Oh, I thought it was a sport. It's like if someone were to ask you to get Adderall for like a chess tournament. Oh, OK, OK. Got it. Yeah. And so Boris states these emails were not written on my behalf or my request. Epstein inserted himself as a mediator and then used lies to pursue his own agenda. But I guess netizens are wondering, even if it wasn't done with Boris's consent, which even that is up for debate to some netizens.
22:04But even if it was done without his consent, would Epstein just make things up out of thin air? and would Bill Gates even care if he did? Gates and his team believe that this is evidence that, quote, this is another example of Epstein's repeated attempts to claim a role in Gates's orbit. Also, we do believe that Boris left and received funding from Bill Gates because he did email and copy Epstein on an email to confirm that he was receiving a wire transfer. The email reads, I see wire transfer for$5 million in advance. Okay, I don't know. I don't want to say dollars because there's no dollar sign in the email.
22:42So don't sue me. But it says like, I see wire transfer for 5M advance. I'm assuming it's dollars. It could be something else. I'm scared. Just started showing processing. Thank you in all caps. So like, I don't know. Thank you to Bill Gates. No, thank you to he copied like a different person. And then he copied Epstein. Wow. Yeah. Inside note, there is a video of the bridge player, the Russian bridge player. talking about Bill Gates during a bridge conference. So she's the one that had an affair with Bill Gates. She was in her early 20s when she met Bill Gates. There's a picture of them together.
23:20She looks really young. And like early 20s, yeah, you look young, but she looks like really young for her age too. That's not me saying that I doubt her age. I'm not doubting that she was an adult at the time. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying she just looks young. That was an observation that I had. Maybe it's jealous. You call it whatever, right? but she quotes a very famous actress Mae West and she says good sex is like good bridge if you don't have a good partner you better have a good hand and she shows a picture of her and Bill Gates and she says that she had always had plans to meet Bill Gates nobody believed her and to give you some context Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are really big bridge players like they've invested a lot of money into bridge tournaments they go to bridge tournaments in like Washington DC that's how they met and they will fund bridge tournaments for schools local schools so they they love bridge they've always been very vocal avid bridge players which is why some netizens feel like she could be a russian honeypot russian being like the russian government sends people to go and have romantic relations with high profile people in other countries to get information for the opposing country because that would be the perfect way or maybe i watched too many k-dramas i don't know but also she was pictured with a russian spy anyway but she says quote what do you mean she was i'm gonna get into it there's a whole russian thing in a second but she says i played against him at the same table at the national bridge tournament in washington dc i didn't beat him but i tried to kick him in the leg and now the top comment on that video now reads bill heard good sex is like good bridge and just went for it or quote bill told her it's only micro when it's soft babe so bill gates has apparently apologized and stated to his gates foundation staff quote I did nothing illicit I saw nothing illicit he alleges that the pictures that were released in the files with women whose faces were redacted that was after meetings with Epstein he Epstein's assistants wanted to take pictures with him so he would take pictures with them because they're like oh my gosh Bill Gates I'm such a huge fan of Microsoft I don't know what you would say right and quote it was such a huge mistake to spend time with Epstein I apologize to other people who were drawn into this because of the mistakes that I made.
25:28I never stayed overnight. He states that he never visited the island, though he did fly on a private jet with him and met with him in Germany, France, New York, and Washington. But to his defense, I never stayed overnight, I guess. As for why he met up with Epstein in 2011 after his crimes were already pretty public, Bill Gates states that he did not properly check Epstein's background because, you know, he sees all these high-profile people around Epstein, so he just assumes he's a high-profile person. And the way that these people scare me, I went through a rabbit hole. Okay, the whole Bill Gates rabbit hole happened.
26:01And then I started just like buying books on some of these other people because I'm like, they scare me. We should at least know like when Oracle, I bought a few books on Larry Ellison because I'm like, Oracle's taking over TikTok. You get the whole vibe and the paramount. Anyway, these people will study their enemies to every little, every core of their being, every cell of their body just to dismantle them. And these are not big enemies. It's not like Microsoft going after big companies. You're talking about the little fish of the sea because that's just how these people tend to operate. If you're small up and coming, they will dismantle you for game itself.
26:39And you're telling me you never Googled Epstein? Yeah, they don't care. He says, knowing what I know now, you know, makes it a hundred times worse in terms of not only his crimes in the past, but now it's clear there was ongoing bad behavior. he says about melinda gates to give her credit she has always kind of been skeptical about the obscene thing which like yes she has been vocally so but also some people think it's kind of like um well you'll kind of see it with the clintons later where a lot of men are using their wife propping up their wives now or ex-wife now but it still benefits them you know because it is the bill and melinda gates foundation melinda can continue the legacy same with hillary clinton And, you know, Bill Gates is like, you guys shouldn't even be talking to my wife.
27:25She's never interacted with Epstein. But it still is going to be beneficial for Bill Clinton. So it's just it's kind of an annoying feeling probably for women. Not those women specifically, but women. And though ultimately he admits to no wrongdoing, there's just continuous building suspicion against Bill Gates. Then, you know, sometimes we, the people, are very strange. not as strange as anyone in the emails but we spend our time doing very odd things like waiting in line for things just to hope we like it like a protein bar there's this protein part it comes in like a gold wrapper we tried it i ordered a bunch okay i ordered three bars in new york do you remember i'm confused what are we talking about the little protein bars in the pantry they're gold foil and i was like you should eat the protein bar yeah i did eat it how did you like it it just tastes like those like really healthy protein bars so this was a big hyped protein bar david's protein bar they launched in 2024 and when they launched there were 40 000 customers on the wait list the first week the protein 40 000 customer on the wait list a wait list for a protein bar why the first week a million dollars in sales because the protein bar is 150 calories and it has 28 grams of protein.
28:42Nearly unheard of. This is insane. To get that much protein with that little calories. Okay. You can already imagine the type of crowd that you're getting workout obsessed. You're getting Pilates moms. Like you're getting all this like crowd foaming at the mouth to pay for really expensive protein bars. People posted on Reddit saying, if it's too good to be true, it's because it is. None of my farts are safe now. Like there were a lot of joking comments of like, it's so dense. There's no way. Like, it just tastes creamy. How is it creamy? Some people are saying that they were diarrhea-ing. But even with all of that, David Protein Bars is valued at$725 million within a year of launching.
29:22And now it's become almost a meme, a mean girl's meme. Regina George. Okay. Okay, so in the movie Mean Girls, Regina George is the mean girl. And the main character, Katie, she gives her these protein bars. And she's like, oh, these protein bars help you lose weight. So she only eats these protein bars. But then turns out they're basically like... Extra calorie. Extra calories. And so there was a consumer lab testing done on the protein bar. And instead of 150 calories, each bar was allegedly 229 calories. And you have to understand, many of the people who consume David's protein bars are tracking their macros.
30:01They track their calorie count. And instead of the two grams advertised on the label of fat, one bar showed in testing that instead of two grams, there was 9.7 grams of fat in one singular bar and only about 23.6 grams of protein rather than 28 grams of protein, which leads to a class action calorie lawsuit being filed against David Protein. It's just been damning across the board. Usually the FDA will allow some leeway. So the nutrition labels, there's no way that it's exact. And they give about a 20 % leeway. You can be 20 % wrong. But most food labels, they stay within like a good lower percentage.
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30:38But David Protein bars, some of them were tested at 271 calories after being advertised as having 150 calories. However, I will note this is huge. David Protein is fighting this. They are reportedly planning to counter Sue and they state that the lab tests are simply wrong. And it's because they use a very special ingredient, EPG, and it's non-digestible. So it actually cannot be metabolized by the body. So the way that calories are tested, the way that they're saying the other people have been testing it, they're looking for energy output. Whereas there's some energy in there that is not going to be metabolized by the human body.
31:16Okay. So you're not actually, if you're not metabolizing the calories, you can't count that as the calories, right? But that weirdly is not the biggest scandal to hit David's protein bars recently. The biggest scandal is Peter Atiyah. The chief science officer for David Protein Bars is in the files. Peter Atiyah has always been occasionally controversial in the longevity space. Who, you know, he was on the quest of trying to... The doctor. The famous... Yeah. Mm-hmm. What? Peter Atiyah. Okay. Wow. He was on the quest of figuring out why are Americans so fat? Those are the major headlines involving Peter Atiyah for the longest time.
32:00those are the words they use and i don't know maybe because we're all depressed eating because nobody's being held accountable or really investigated for even being in the epstein files and maybe we're not fat maybe we're just not invisible to the naked eye okay but he has a small bespoke clinic of high-paying clients you can't even get in unless you're someone with deep pockets like hugh jackman the is he yeah yeah the x-men yeah and tech founders and i'm not saying Hugh Jackman knows about any of this. Like these emails are between Peter, Atiyah, and Epstein, you know, but he's the longevity guy for the rich.
32:35Go get a$3 ,000 elective MRI scan. Go spend X amount of money on this and that and this and that and take time off of work to exercise. Obviously, that's an exaggeration, but that's where much of the controversy at least is from the beginning. Peter Atiyah wants to say, if you're not even going to invest in your health, what are you going to invest in? Like he's that type of guy. So what the hell are you doing with Epstein? June 2015, Peter Atiyah sends Epstein in an email. The subject line is, got a fresh shipment. The picture that he includes in the email is metformin bottles. Metformin? What's metformin again?
33:11I think it's like the anti-diabetic prescription drug that people would take for longevity. It's like one of the longevity ones along with the elective GLP ones that everyone who wants to be fucking immortal takes these days. And I'm like, why do you want to live forever? The world is ending. this is crazy we're just trying to live to tomorrow and you guys want to live until you're 2 000 years old epstein responds me too and he sends a photo of a woman that is redacted peter responds please tell me you found that picture online bastard dot dot dot epstein responds afraid not peter you know the biggest problem with becoming friends with you the life you lead is so outrageous and yet i can't tell a soul dot dot dot that's crazy man peter atia also sends epstein's assistant an email i go into je withdrawal when i don't see him jeffrey epstein withdrawal oh okay peter atia is in the boat with like elon musk where it's like they're so desperate to be on epstein's island i know has he okay is there more about him he also emails epstein pussy is indeed low carb still awaiting results on gluten content though which netizens are disgusted commenting at him you also have a daughter and also peter atia is a physician he's not he didn't go through residency because he dropped out to be like a longevity doctor but so i don't know if he can actually practice in hospitals that was like another controversy of his like he's not like a real doctor like why would you want him as your doctor if he can't operate on you or like help you in most major hospitals you go to anyway for him to associate with epstein after 2008 and then to talk about woman's body parts like that while being a physician while having a daughter while being morally bankrupt in my opinion feels personally past the point of just being a bit alarming.
34:56Peter Atiyah has since posted a statement once these emails have gotten viral. That reads, the following email is what I sent to my team last night. I sent a similar version to my patients also. And it's like this long little, my fault, my fault, okay? But not really my fault. He expresses that he let everyone down, but also he was not involved in any criminal activity, that he was never on the plane, island, or present at any sex party. but he does admit to being at Jeffrey Epstein's New York City home on seven to eight different occasions and he did email Epstein that he would like to visit the island quote I need to visit sometime so Peter I don't know if it's the fact that you didn't go to the island out of your own moral judgment but rather you didn't get the invite he also states that he never went to Zorro Ranch which is the massive New Mexico compound that Epstein had but again he had planned a visit to the New Mexico ranch, but Epstein canceled on him.
35:49He also weirdly writes, I met Epstein in 2014, a prominent female healthcare leader while I was raising funds for scientific research introduced us. It's giving a little, it's always a woman's fault. Who cares who introduced you? He says, I'm not asking for a pass from you. I'm not asking anyone to ignore the emails or pretend they aren't ugly. They simply are. The man I am today, roughly 10 years later would not write them and would not associate with epstein at all whatever growth i've had over the past decade does not erase the emails i wrote then i do want to note when he wrote those emails he was like 42 years old so it's not like he was like a 12 year old boy he was 42 yeah so i note there is a running theory backed by an email in the epstein files where peter atia is emailing epstein to confirm a meeting with him in new york city and his wife is home in san diego and their infant son just suffered from cardiac arrest so peter atia is in new york city and he wrote about this in his book yes yes yes he's in new york city working on business his wife and his son are back home in san diego and his infant son suffers from cardiac arrest and his wife is i believe thankfully a nurse and was able to like take him to the hospital perform cpr it was a whole thing and she's begging him to come home he said that he writes in his book that he quote, I stayed in New York busy with my quote, important work, redacted son, cardiac arrest happened on a Tuesday, but I did not come home to San Diego until Friday of the following week, 10 days later.
37:21I mean, this is all like in the public eye. So people were able to find the exact dates that they think the cardiac arrest happened because, you know, it's a big life event. They've been talking about it before. They cross reference with the emails. And while he's in New York, he's emailing Epstein to meet with Epstein while his son is under cardiac arrest.
37:41That's crazy. Also, in his overly long, rather full of shit and carbs statement, he's got a thing with carbs anyway, he says that he didn't know Epstein was a bad person. He never Googled him, I guess. But in 2018, the Miami Herald came out with an expose on Epstein. And that's when Peter Atiyah, he says, was repulsed. He said, I was disgusted. Insert dramatic word that he probably doesn't ever mean. That's what Peter says. But there are emails where four days after the Miami Herald investigation is published, Peter Atiyah emails Epstein in a thread titled, Are you in Florida? And he asks, you know, what is the fallout from the recent story?
38:18Epstein responds, same as usual, just tougher. Legally, any change? Zero. Peter Atiyah appears to have stepped down from David Protein Bars, AG1, and 8 Sleep, where he was all on like a consult. He was also like a CBS consulting correspondent along with, he was like the newest round of announcements along with Andrew Huberman. And yeah. On what? CBS? Yeah. As like a correspondent doctor. Oh, okay. And many netizens wish upon Peter Atiyah strong, deep, everlasting, emotional pain. And I think the longevity is melting his brain.
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40:40This 10 episode mystery thriller is executive produced by Martin Scorsese and stars Academy Award winner Javier Bardem, Academy Award nominee Amy Adams, and Emmy nominee Patrick Wilson. When convicted murderer Max Cady is released from prison, he begins infiltrating the family of the married attorneys who helped put him behind bars.
41:07Now, other key resignations include Brad Karp, chairman of Paul Weiss Law Firm, which this is like a huge big law law firm. He resigned from his chairmanship after 18 years and people like a lot of people were making a big deal about it because it's like, oh, finally justice, right? He still remains at the firm as a partner. He's making a shit ton of money. And also apparently he had been planning on stepping down his chair even before all of this because he suffered from a heart attack last January. So this isn't even something that he's having to do for justice. What did he do? Just emailing or?
41:40Yeah, and I believe he was at one point representing Leon Black. Remember the head of Apollo, the hedge fund, that Epstein was like, if I were you, I'd give me$40 million. Remember. But Brad Karp has also been seen in the files emailing Epstein not about Leon Black, but quote, Jeffrey, I can't thank you enough for including me in an evening I'll never forget. It was truly, quote, once in a lifetime in every way, though I hope to be invited again. You are an extraordinary host and you're home. Dot, dot, dot, exclamation, exclamation. Thanks again. See you soon, Brad. Epstein responds, you are always welcome there are many many nights of unique talents you will be invited often then brad carp responds you are amazing thank you and i don't know for all the alarming reasons he wanted perhaps to use nepotism this is a weird one to get his son in a woody allen movie so epstein has always been very good friends with the disgraced filmmaker woody allen and he says jeffrey can i raise a personal issue with you concerning my son david as i mentioned he graduated Cornell last weekend and is hoping to work on interesting projects and make films this year and then hopefully attend NYU in the fall of 2017.
42:51David is working on a project for a Peruvian company in Lima from mid-June through mid-July. He would love to work in any capacity with Woody on his upcoming film project if that's a possibility. He certainly doesn't need to be paid and he's a really good talented kid. Thanks so much Brad. Then you have Faith Cates who owns a modeling agency that represents a ton of incredible models. Obviously she's not a reflection of those models or the talent. And then she also represents Diplo. I don't know. She's since retired. But the emails have been released. And of course, she writes to Epstein, I know you don't believe this, but I really do love you like a brother.
43:25Is your brother a trafficker too? Perhaps. And I feel so sad this is happening. Lay very low and quiet. You should know who your friends are. The rest are a piece of crap. What the fuck? Like when did she send this? After his 2008 conviction. But these are all just, there's a bunch of other resignations, but these are all just resignations. These are rich and typically old people taking early retirement. And those are just the business people. That's not taking into account all the failed parts that made Epstein who he is. A tiny group of people are resigning, but what about everything else, like the system itself?
44:02It's revealed through the files that back in 2015, the DEA, Drug Enforcement Administration, opened an investigation into Epstein and at least a dozen other individuals. They were investigating money laundering, drug trafficking, funding and distributing ecstasy, ketamine and methamphetamines. So the DEA is investigating additionally for Epstein's proclivity to procure Eastern European sex workers for high profile clients. That was another thing that was open in this investigation, which begs the question, just how much did the feds know about Epstein's crimes for how long? Because documentation of his crimes go back in the Justice Department to the 90s not even like oh to 2002 before the 2008 to the 90s and if the feds knew about him is it really believable that none of these high-powered people knew anything about him because i feel like i feel like i would be more nervous for a background check to be a right-hand person to someone like bill gates than a government background check yeah yeah i'm like I feel like you'd be 20 times more thorough.
45:09Yeah. Though I will say the DEA investigation went through a secret unit and it's the same unit that apparently had a lead role in capturing El Chapo. So this is like, I guess, a highly focused unit. And it doesn't seem like the feds at the DEA thought that this was just a giggle gaggle. Oh, look, this is a rich guy doing ecstasy with his rich friends type of situation. They even ran a target profile on Epstein, which they will go and scrub a person up and down. They'll get all their financial transactions and comb through them for any suspicious activity. They're looking into you. And his profile states, illegitimate wire transfers, which are tied to illicit drug and or prostitution activities occurring in the U.S.
45:44Virgin Islands in New York City. The memo notes that from 2013 to 2015, banks alerted the feds for about at least$5.7 million in potentially suspicious transactions regarding Epstein's accounts. Then apparently in a separate investigation by the same secret unit of the DEA, they were looking into human trafficking and drug trafficking tied to Russian organized crime and Epstein's name comes up repeatedly in that case as well. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon states, to this day, there has not been a comprehensive follow the money investigation of Epstein's network performed by any federal law enforcement agency.
46:19I find that totally inexcusable. So now there's all these whispers about is Epstein connected to Israel? Is Epstein connected to Russia? Because Bill Gates and Russian girls and there's a lot of Eastern European women that were victimized by Epstein. and the Epstein and Russia ties have only gotten stronger with the newly released files because for years Epstein was trying to get a meeting with Putin himself. Remember he was cozying up to the prime minister of Norway saying things like I know you're going to meet Putin on the 20th. He is desperate to engage western investment in his country. I have his solution.
46:51Another email is a bit more enthusiastic and casual. Would love to meet with Putin! Exclamation. But again there's no evidence that the meeting of Epstein's dreams ever came to fruition. Putin's name appears more than a thousand times in the release files, but most of that are references from the news clippings and Epstein talking about Putin rather than any sort of meaningful correspondence. There is an individual, though, that has definitely raised a lot of alarms in the files. Beliakov. So Beliakov was the Russian deputy economic development minister, and he becomes fast friends with Epstein.
47:24He would send him cryptic sounding emails that now, in my opinion sound a bit ominous, but our meeting was really interesting for me. I do not know many people like you who can open new horizons and prospects. He also thanks Epstein at one point for a gift, but the most alarming email is Epstein emails Beliakov, July 24th, 2015. I need a favor. There is a Russian girl from Moscow. She is attempting to blackmail a group of powerful businessmen in New York. It's bad for business for everyone involved. Suggestions? Now there is a situation where Leon Black, Apollo hedge fund manager, he was blackmailed by a woman, a Russian woman that he had an affair with, but he says businessmen.
48:09So this could mean multiple. Maybe it's just referencing Leon Black. We don't really know. Epstein says that this woman was claiming ridiculous, nonsensical things that have never happened before in the history of this planet, such as, quote, powerful men taking advantage of women like her. Beliakov, according to the files, offers to meet up with someone who knows said woman, and he alleges that she's in the sex and escort business. And in another email drafted, presumably for the Moscow woman, Epstein writes, I've decided to help you. However, I am very disappointed by the fact that you felt it necessary to threaten me.
48:43I think you should apologize to me. You and I have been together a long time So I know you must have been quite upset to do such an outrageous thing You should also know that I felt it necessary to contact some friends at FSB Which, okay, kind of but not really But just for simplicity's sake is like the Russian FBI They explained it to me that in no uncertain terms That especially right now when Russia is trying to bring in outside investors As you know, the economy there sucks and desperately needs investment That a person that would attempt to blackmail a businessman would immediately become the enemy of the people and would be dealt with extremely harshly.
49:19So I expect never ever to hear a threat from you again. That being said, I think$50 ,000 per month for the next two years, which would equate to$1.2 million. And I will help you get a visa. It's very generous. If you decide to stay in Moscow, that's also okay with me. Wow. That's why I think it's a different businessman from Leon Black, because Leon Black had this whole, it was a big fiasco, and he ended up paying quite a bit. And then countersued her attorneys. She was at one point, he sued her and her attorneys, Doug Wigdor's firm that represented Cassie Ventura in the Diddy case. I mean, it's still represent, but like, you know.
49:57So a lot of Russian connections in the files. And another odd one is that when Trump takes office for the first time back in 2016, Beliakov sends Epstein a message, congrats on your president. Epstein responds with one word, Fun. And back to the bridge, right? So unrelated to Trump, but the Russia connection, Bill Gates was having an affair with a Russian bridge player. She was photographed with Anna Chapman, who has been deported from the United States on charges of espionage. Basically, people believe that Anna Chapman is a Russian spy. That has led a lot of netizens to believe that perhaps Bill Gates' mistress was also a honeypot sent by Russia, but that's just a personal thought netizens are having.
50:42it's just been weird why is it called honey pot it's like a honey trap yeah and now i mean at this point this is where i'm gonna leave you with the second audio because there's gonna be a third part to all of this where we're gonna go through the depositions and what's been going on with trump in the files there's a lot there also there they want to subpoena they haven't subpoenaed but they do want to interview so far as of the day that I'm filming this. The House committee has stated that they want to interview one of the prison guards, a transcribed interview, a prison guard when Epstein died because it just released in the files that she was googling him before he was found dead.
51:24There's so much happening in part three, but I'm going to leave you with a few things to expect because Republican Representative Jamie Raskin, along with a few others, Ro Khanna and others were able to view the unredacted files. So members of the House Oversight Committee are allowed to come in and go through the files, unredacted files, but apparently you can only have four members and there's only four computers and you can only be there from nine to five to view the unredacted files on those computers only. That itself has been heavily criticized. Representative Jamie Raskin told Axios that he was able to go see the unredacted Epstein files and Trump's name was in there, quote, more than a million times.
52:02It's been reported that Trump told a police chief at the time looking into Epstein in the early 2000s and allegedly told them, quote, everyone has known that he's been doing this and suggested that the police chief should also look into Maxwell as well because, quote, she's evil and to focus on her. That's what a lot of people are alleging. And there's more in the files about that that has been redacted as the allegation. And there's just there were like 16 pages that were not released that were later found and then re-uploaded that have to do with Trump. And there's just a lot of allegations and just a lot of things that are going on.
52:42So with that being said, that is where I leave you with part one and part two. And I will see you in part three very, very soon. Stay safe. There's a pill version of Ozempic. Hello, I'm Ozempic. And I'm other GLP-1s kind of like him. Hey, did I hear there's a pill version of Ozempic? Yep, you sure did. Ask your doctor about which FDA-approved uses of the Ozempic pen or pill may be right for you. Call 1-833-OZEMPIC or visit Ozempic.com to view the medication guide and learn more about Ozempic semaglutide tablets, 9 milligrams, and Ozempic semaglutide injection, 2 milligrams. There's a pill version of Ozempic.
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One day before Nancy, mother of news anchor Savannah Guthrie, goes missing, the DOJ releases the largest, single dump of documents in the history of the Epstein case.
Over 3.5 million pages.
More than 2k videos.
Approximately 180k images.
A little over 24 hours later, Nancy vanishes and the internet starts connecting some dots, suggesting strings were pulled to ensure her disappearance monopolized the national news stage instead of the most recent Epstein files dump.
Netizens cite Savannah Guthrie’s 2019 interview with 6 of Epstein’s survivors including Shante Davies who was pictured with the former US president Bill Clinton and the now late, Virginia Guiffre. The dateline special was Virginia’s first ever televised interview, where she sat across from Savannah and specifically implicated Prince Andrew in Epstein’s trafficking ring.
So is the timing of Nancy’s disappearance just coincidental or is there something deeper at play?
Most importantly, what exactly is in these files that the public would possibly ‘need distracting’ from?
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