Everything Bill & Hillary Clinton Said In 8 Hour Long Epstein Deposition Tape

26:32I thought that we had done enough and then it was time to start working with other people. Which, side note about Larry Summers before we move on. He has resigned from his academic and faculty appointments at Harvard. So remember, he was then president, but then he was working as a professor. and then the Epstein files came out and then he gave this whole like weird Epstein lecture to his students. He also stepped down and parted ways with the New York Times, Bloomberg and OpenAI. He was on the board, I believe. Or some advisory or something like that. But Bill Clinton interestingly describes Epstein as a vacuum cleaner.

27:05How would you describe your substance of conversations with Jeffrey Epstein during the many hours that you spent together on the aircraft? Well at first he was really seemed like a vacuum cleaner There was nothing overtly manipulative about it He just wanted to know, you know, what did I think of derivatives trading? Did I think that the stock market was properly regulated or did it need more? And it was great for the first two, three, four or five conversations But I could just tell that it was like, I mean you guys are in politics He's talking to the committee members Don't you ever just feel like somebody's, you know, sometimes somebody's talking to you and then they're just checking the box and they got to go meet some, do something else, meet somebody else.

27:44That's the way I felt. So he's saying it felt like Jeffrey Epstein just wanted to say he knew Bill Clinton, which is kind of alarming. The House committee wants to know if perhaps Epstein was trying to get specific information out of Bill Clinton. I mean, that would be a huge concern for national security. If let's say a trafficker has blackmail against very well connected politically one of the most powerful people on the planet, what could happen then?

28:14Amanda McLain:Why did he call him a vacuum cleaner? Just wants knowledge. Just like vacuum cleaning information. Yeah. But at the same time, he doesn't really care. Yeah. He just wants information to be used on other. I imagine he's like the type where you sit down and it's rapid fire 25 questions. and if you don't answer in the way that they think is entertaining or interesting, they just move on to the next person, is kind of the feeling that I get from his response. But they ask, you know, was he ever trying to monetize the relationship to your knowledge? To the best of my knowledge, he never did. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever inform or represent to you that he was working with any intelligence service of any nation, including the United States?

28:56No. But they show him a picture. So they show Bill Clinton a picture of a man named Marius Roberts. whom Clinton says he doesn't know who that person is. He's like, I've never seen this person in my life. I don't know who Marius Robert is. But they're like, what about the passport photo? Because he's shown a picture of a passport. They're like, the passport name is Marius Robert. You don't know Marius Robert, but who does the picture look like? Looks like Jeffrey Epstein. They explain, the reason I ask you about this specifically is because I do believe that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence operative.

29:27So this was a passport that was actually entered and released by the DOJ. It was found in a safe, if you will. So it's an alias. The reason I ask you that is, given your nature and position, I'm wondering if you were essentially targeted by a honeypot operation and or by intelligence to gather information. Bill Clinton smiles. Is there a question? So with that, one of the main people under fire with the new Epstein Files release is Howard Lutnick. He's the former New York City neighbor to Jeffrey Epstein.

29:57Amanda McLain:He's a neighbor? Yeah, like next door neighbor. And according to Politico, Howard Letnick has stated in a podcast that he vowed back in 2005 that he would never be in the same room as Epstein ever again. Which is like a very odd thing. Why 2005, right? But then according to the file dump, Howard Letnick also reportedly invited Epstein to a 2015 fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. So it's unclear if Epstein went, but what the hell? Who is he? He's the Secretary of Commerce. appointed by Trump. They're trying to get him to resign as we speak. And he was just a neighbor back in the days. He was a neighbor and he was, I mean, at one point close to the Clintons who are Democrats, but now he's the Secretary of Commerce with Trump.

30:46Yeah. But he was right next door to Jeffrey Epstein's$250 million New York City mansion. So he goes on this podcast, Howard Lutnick does, and he said that he and his wife were invited over to Jeffrey Epstein's house because they're neighbors. So it's like, hey, billionaire and billionaire, let's all meet. I don't know if they're billionaires, but. So they see this massage table just in the middle of a room in Epstein's house, and it's just candles everywhere. And Epstein creepily insinuates that he gets a massage every day, the right kind of massage. So Lutnick and his wife, Alison Lutnick, he says they all but flee the Manhattan townhouse because they're like, disgusting, disgusting.

31:25And according to Howard Lutnick. And in the six to eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided I was never, ever going to be in the room with him socially, even for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross. Safe to assume that he was never in the same room with Epstein since 2005, right? But the email showed that he was reportedly at Epstein's Island years after 2005. He emailed Epstein stating that him and his wife and children along with another family were visiting the caribbean and asked if epstein would be around and whether or not they could visit him for a meal and then a day later epstein emails let nick nice seeing you so we don't know if he was on epstein's island but safe to assume that they did see each other in the caribbeans yeah even in 2017 according to the new york times epstein contributed to a charity dinner that was in honor of let nick but in a senate subcommittee hearing let nick says i did not have a relationship with him I barely had anything to do with that person okay I've never heard anybody say oh yeah I know Epstein

32:26Amanda McLain:yeah nobody everyone says the exact same thing don't know the guy barely know the guy I don't talk to him I think that I was just a friend of his even though I spent 50 hours on a private plane with him yeah his private plane with him it's like nobody knows him but he knows everybody yeah like everybody's in his email exactly you know i met with him over the next 14 years um i met him two other times that i can recall basically yeah as for that lunch with his wife and kids and epstein he says my wife was with me as were my four children and nannies i had another couple with you know they were there as well with their children and we had lunch on the island that is true for an hour i've done absolutely nothing wrong in any possible regard also howard letnik just looks AI generated.

33:13I don't know how else to describe it. It was bothering me ever since, and I have nobody to talk to about it. He looks like AI generated pictures. Like, you know, when you see those AI generated people who like go fishing and then they catch a shark and they're like, and it just looks so AI. That's what Howard Lettnick looks like to me. But during his deposition, Bill Clinton, he's asked why President Trump ignored other prominent figures in his circle such as Howard Lutnick who have had close ties with Epstein, which this is an opinion question because the House committee is asking Bill Clinton, why do you think President Trump is ignoring other people in his circle that have prominent figures such as Howard Lutnick who have had close ties with Epstein?

33:56How is he supposed to know what Trump is thinking? How is this is not an this is not a question that Bill Clinton can answer. This is an opinion question. They're not here to give opinions. And other times where they're asked opinion questions that they don't want to answer, their attorneys step in, Bill Clinton steps in, Hillary Clinton is like, I'm not here for speculation. I'm here for facts. They say all of this. But Bill Clinton, his attorneys don't stop him. And Bill Clinton says, Letnick runs a big company and has made a lot of money and has supported him sternly. I don't think he believes that he's done anything bad enough to, you know, I think he thinks he took his family to the island and he couldn't have done anything wrong.

34:32That's what I think he thinks. But I'm speculating. I'm doing what I, you know, I have no business doing because I really don't know.

34:39Amanda McLain:And why'd you say that? Yeah. And this is where a lot of people have a lot of problems with this. I think that this could easily, if you want to have zero nuance and if you want to just like die by your party, which who wants to die by their party these days, you could make it a Republican and Democrat issue. But I will say that no victim of sex trafficking ever cared what party their abuser belonged to. So I don't think that this is a Democrat Republican issue. I think this is an issue of sex trafficking and people in power. So this is not like me saying, oh, because of my political party, I'm going to side with this guy over that guy.

35:13But one thing that a lot of Democrats who would typically take Bill Clinton's side, they're saying, hold on. It's very uncomfortable that he's almost giving Trump outs. It's the same thing that Ghislaine Maxwell did last year in her DOJ interview with Todd Blanch. That was a whole thing. It's just weird. Why give your opinion on what Trump is thinking when you're not supposed to answer to opinions and you gave your opinion in a way that almost clears Trump? I'm sure Trump thinks he didn't have a relationship with Epstein. That's basically what he's saying. There is currently bipartisan effort to get Howard let Nick out to get him to resign it I just think the craziest thing though is that Howard let Nick is a billionaire but he couldn't why even go on a podcast just to eat your own words later it's so weird why go on a podcast and say this happened in 2005 and my wife and I were like we're never gonna see this guy right right right it's just they wait the 2005 comment when was that made like last year oh in the podcast yeah and then the email came out yeah and then they're like why'd you even go on the podcast you could have just shut up about epstein you could have

36:28Amanda McLain:just not said anything well he didn't think it was gonna come out right so yeah okay so then the deposition heads into the flights and it's been confirmed and it's very you know apparent that Bill Clinton has been on Epstein's private plane numerous times, the Lolita Express, if you will. He admits that during one flight, Naomi Campbell happened to be there. This is a name that consistently comes up, but there's no like damning evidence against Naomi Campbell. She just keeps coming up all the time. Bill Clinton states that it was all for philanthropic charitable work, you know, depending on your political views, depending on your view of powerful men abusing their positions, depending on your instinct.

37:07A lot of netizens have different takes about these types of responses but nevertheless he's like it was all for philanthropy i was just trying to save people in the deposition he's asked because of the flight logs they show that there are young girls on these planes so when i hear young girls i'm assuming that they're all of age because they would have said underage right so the flight logs at least depict and the pictures show that they're wearing tank tops and jeans. Who did he think they were? Is Epstein like, this is my assistant who is wearing a tank top and jeans to do philanthropic work?

37:45Why am I bringing this specific assistant to this trip? Like, who did you think they were? Bill Clinton? And he's like, I thought they were flight attendants.

37:55Amanda McLain:Do flight attendants typically wear tank tops and jeans? They don't all wear uniforms on private planes. Huh. Okay. I don't know if that's true, right? You tell me if you've ever been on a private plane. Do the flight attendants wear uniforms? I don't know. But everyone's just kind of like, what? Even if they don't wear uniforms, they probably don't wear tank tops and jeans. Yeah, this is such a dumb. Then there's the viral photo of 22-year-old Shantae giving Clinton a neck massage at an airport. She was 22 at the time. and I do have to note that Shante Davies has come out and said that Bill Clinton has been nothing but a gentleman in her experiences with him.

38:36She's been very outspoken of the abuse that Epstein had done to her along with Maxwell but she never said that Bill Clinton was part of any of it. But he has asked, my next question for you is, have you ever had any contact with an individual by the name of Shante Davies? I believe Shante, that's a distinct name. I think that was the name of one of his flight attendants. So I mean at this point it's safe to assume that he knows who she is because I mean the picture went out. I'm sure he's prepped with his attorneys. He knows. He's further asked, she's been described as being on a 2002 Africa trip and providing massages.

39:12Was she or any other young females on that trip underage at the time? Not that I'm aware of. Did you ever receive a massage or a physical contact from her or anyone else on this trip? You've seen the pictures there was me that one time when i was sitting up and i got a back rub my neck was um okay and i think shantae did it but i'm not sure but i didn't think it was anything unusual i can't tell you how many airplanes i've been on where rich people have asked me to go and they had someone offering massages all these boats that you go on and all that they do all that and usually i don't do that i'm not into that into what we don't know what is he saying yeah we don't know and the attorney is like stop stop just stop he later states that on this specific trip his neck had quote had spasmed and i was in pain so they offered to help and i let them help do you think a young girl massaging a president is unusual and his lawyer steps in are you asking his opinion there's a little riff and then his other counsel steps in objection calls for speculation i figured did you ever think that all these women around jeffrey epstein or galane Maxwell was odd, unusual, weird, or creepy?

40:22There weren't all that many around when I was there. How many would you say is not all that many? I think on this big plane that was, you know, we're working long hours, having two to four people on there, I thought was, as far as I knew, they were all helping. Flight attendants in tank tops and jeans, right? No. And this questioning is done by a Republican representative, Nancy Mace. And we have this, people who have not watched the full deposition, there's like a clip going viral where he says, well, you got like a great tone to it. And Bill Clinton puts his hands in the air and everyone's like, oh my God, Bill Clinton is still flirting with young woman.

41:00Look at him flirting with Representative Mace. And it's been clipped and everyone's like, you can't tell me that he wasn't, you know, putting it on thick on her when you and i was expecting flirting they're going at it which makes sense nancy mace was super confrontational with hillary clinton and she's just been like a very controversial conservative figure just all in all in her entire political career very um a lot of people have a lot of thoughts about her good or really bad or however you want us to get right but um bill clinton is i don't think he's flirting with her okay so that ticked out was out of context yeah She is like going for his neck in a way that is more extreme than everyone else.

41:39I think everyone is trying to at least be respectful. This is, at the end of the day, a former president. And this is a deposition that they called him to. I mean, the Republicans are obviously going to have more opinion-based questions or just questions that they're getting in there to get on the record, to say to his face. And some Democrats, honestly, a lot of Democrats were upset with some of them because they were just going way too easy, too. which a lot of Democrats are like we don't care that he's a Democrat okay just like we don't care what any of these predators not saying Bill Clinton is a predator just any predator we don't care about their political affiliation you need to go harder there were some Democrats that were like we know we know thank you for being here we know Trump is just using you and it's just like I voted for you you know and it's like no one cares even if you voted for whoever if they turn out to not be good what so I digress but Nancy Mace is going for it like she's very aggressive very intense and I don't think that he was flirting with her because she keeps insinuating that he knew what was going on and so that's why she's saying I never said I never said that you knew or something along those lines and that's why he says no but your tone had a great tone to it like very like but you knew what you're saying you know but a lot of people are saying like I like your voice but that's not what was happening yeah

43:00Amanda McLain:That is crazy. That was not what was happening at all. It's actually one of the most aggressive parts of the deposition. So, yeah. Unless maybe he just likes someone who's like going for his neck and his wife's neck. Maybe he's into that. So I, what can I say? That's an opinion. I'm not in Bill Clinton's mind. There was another report that came out in my little research about Nancy Mace. Apparently there was this Reddit poll. There was a Reddit poll going around where people, citizens, Redditors, netizens, would be voting on who the hottest representative is. And there was an expose or alleged staffers of Nancy Mace came out and said she made us make burner accounts and vote for her.

43:43I'm sorry. I could not live with this information by myself. I don't know if this is true. This is the allegation made.

43:50Amanda McLain:Wow. Okay. I see. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I can see that. And then they also alleged that she would make them clean her Airbnbs because she didn't want to clean housekeepers to do it. So she would have staffers do it. And one of them said something along the lines of, quote, she's messed up. The motherboard is fried up here. Nothing going on up here. But in a separate line of questioning, Bill Clinton does state that he wishes Shantae could have told him what was going on with Epstein because he really liked her, thought she was a good person. So, yeah. Then there's Maria Farmer. Now, Maria Farmer is really important to this, but there's a little bit, it's like not said, but it's said.

44:32Which is the fact that Maria Farmer has previously reached out to an FBI agent and stated that Epstein had stolen unclothed photos of her sisters who were 12 and 16 years old. This is back in like the 1990s. There is an active FBI report that was then of CSAM against Jeffrey Epstein. She also reported to the FBI agents that Epstein told her to go take photos of young girls at swimming pools. And if she did not comply, he would burn her family house down. So Maria Farmer, she goes to the feds with this. And Bill Clinton is in office after. So there's this kind of unsaid but said like, how are you the most important person in the nation?

45:17Not informed that there's at least some sort of investigation. So this is in the 90s. He was president from 93 to 2001. So there's this like not said, but said of, are we really to believe? Yes, you hung out with him before 2008, before we could Google his name. So you don't have the same problem that a lot of these other people in the emails have, which is like, how did you not Google this guy? But there was a report to the FBI and you're not informed of it. he's allowed into the White House 17 different times. You know, you still connect with him afterwards. Like, really? Nothing? We don't know anything?

45:58And CSAM is... That's not even like a, ooh, white-collar crime, because that's like everybody associates with people with white-collar crimes these days. But side note, Maria Farmer has also claimed that she saw Trump visiting Epstein's offices in 1995, and that Trump allegedly came into the office, hovered over her, stared at her bare legs, and that Epstein walked in and said, no no she's not here for you and as the two men walked out she alleges that she could hear Trump commenting that he thought she was 16 years old so the connotation being there that he was okay with that the White House has to nobody's surprise denied such an account of events and obviously none of us that were there with Maria we do not know the truth though you know I'm sure everyone has personal opinions on what they think the truth is and we are entitled to our personal opinions but she claimed that while she was being abused by epstein she saw bill clinton come to his house

46:52Amanda McLain:on three to four different occasions that's it that's all she said yeah so there's there's just there's a lot going on that would mean that clinton had gone to epstein's house if maria farmer's account is valid while he was the sitting president and that changes everything again that would be really bad Bill Clinton is adamant he only met Epstein when he was coming out of office starting his foundation and Larry Summers introduced them so he's asked you know Maria Farmer was employed by Jeffrey Epstein and abused by him for a number of years and she first reported her abuse to the NYPD and FBI in 1996 she states that she has personal knowledge that you visited Jeffrey Epstein's house three to four times while you were the sitting president between 1995 and 1996 so let me ask you Mr.

47:40President did you visit Jeffrey Epstein's house while you were president? I do not remember doing that. I do not believe I did. How do you explain this discrepancy? His lawyer steps in. Objection calls for him to speculate. I can't speculate, but all I can tell you is I don't remember being there. During your presidency, were you ever made aware of the information that Maria Farmer provided to the FBI in 1996? No. During the deposition Virginia Dufresne has brought up, she has stated numerous times in sworn statements that she recalls Bill Clinton being on the island. And her diary reads, quote, Bill Clinton met two times.

48:15Island with two girls, CTGM and JE. Whoa. So CT, I don't know, GM could be Ghislaine Maxwell and JE could be Jeffrey Epstein, right? What is your reaction to that? It's not true. Bill Clinton starts getting a little combative, you know? Did she say that in her book? This is from her personal diary that her family shared with us. But the book came out more recently. Did she say that in the book? Look, I'm just reading you the entry from her diary that her family shared with me. I think she ultimately reached a different conclusion, although I had no contact with her. And a lot of people had side eye to that.

48:50Like, why is he so adamant of if she said that in the book? It's almost like he made sure there was nothing in the book about him. And then he says, I think she ultimately reached a different conclusion, although I had no contact with her.

49:03Amanda McLain:Oh, yeah, that's weird. So she finally made a conclusion of, oh, maybe Bill Clinton wasn't there. But I didn't tell her to write that, basically. And Virginia Giuffre is now deceased in a self-exit. So there are just like lots of feelings that people had about this question. Well, I just want to make sure that it's on the record. That's what the representative is saying. So it's just, it's odd. Now, remember how Virginia Giuffre alleged that Bill Clinton told Vanity Fair not to write articles about his good friend Jeffrey Evans? Epstein he's asked if that happened like we we covered this back in the recent Epstein videos that I did a few months back so she was saying that she was scared you know Bill Clinton was going into a vanity fair saying like you're not going to cover my friend and he's asked if that happened and he responds no no not no hell no not like a close no but according to emails Ghislaine Maxwell and a Clinton aide talked about talking points on how to respond to a vanity fair a reporter who was writing a profile on Epstein.

50:03So that doesn't mean that Bill Clinton did or did not, but it was a topic of conversation. So either Bill Clinton really was not involved, but people on his side were preparing a statement to give to Vanity Fair because they always asked for a comment or they were involved. It's unclear. But he's saying in the deposition under oath that he did not. Did you know one of the witnesses who testified in the Epstein cases that Epstein said you, Bill Clinton, you quote, like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you? His lawyer steps in. Are you asking him a question? Are you asking his opinion?

50:38You want him to try and be in Mr. Epstein's mind and guess at what Mr. Epstein would have thought about? Bill Clinton says, first of all, that's not true. What's not true? That I have any interest in underage. I didn't say underage. I said young. But it's still not true. Is an intern young? So here comes Monica Lewinsky.

50:58Amanda McLain:Whoa. Yes. Okay. Did you know Jeffrey Epstein instructed a witness to deny you were ever on his island? He didn't have to since I was never there. During Ghislaine Maxwell's previous interview with the DOJ last year, Ghislaine Maxwell states that she had a very central role in the Clinton Global Initiative. And it doesn't seem like she's just making this up out of her butt, okay? It's been revealed that in the files, Ghislaine was even taking part in budget discussions, which, side note. So many depositions happening in the month of February and March. February 9th, 2026, Ghislaine Maxwell is deposed.

51:33Another deposition, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, they depose her. Closed-door deposition, the video goes live, okay? The video goes up. You're like, what? It's a closed-door deposition. What do you mean, okay? So the main questions the committee wanted to ask were Ghislaine Maxwell previously claimed that there were four named co-conspirators. Who were the four named co-conspirators? 25 men who were not indicted. Who are they? Why were they never charged? Her documented social relationship with Trump and Epstein, including whether access to underage girls was ever facilitated.

52:04They wanted to ask whether discussions occurred about a pardon or sentence reduction after Trump publicly stated that he would look at a pardon. What client lists exist documenting Epstein's associates and whether Epstein shared information with or acted on behalf of foreign government intelligence services? That was the plan. That's the questions that they're going in trying to ask. Ghislaine Maxwell, we have a video of this, is sitting there with big old goofy glasses on her head. Okay, she looks crazy. And she just responds to everything. I would like to answer your question. Then do it. But she doesn't.

52:36But on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question and any related questions. My habeas petition is pending in the Southern District of New York. I therefore invoke my right to silence under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution. she wouldn't even respond if she was a close friend of epstein's which she previously denied but you know and she's asked miss maxwell is it your intention to answer every question put to you by the committee today with the assertion of your fifth amendment right against self-incrimination i invoke my fifth amendment right to silence that video of the deposition has since been released because she literally said nothing and the american people should probably see her evade all these questions and all of that appears, this whole thing is like a bid for a presidential pardon.

53:25Even before the questions start, Maxwell's attorney states outright, Ms. Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump. Only she can provide a complete account and some may not like what they hear, but the truth matters. For example, both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing. Ms. Maxwell alone can explain why,

53:52Amanda McLain:and the public is entitled to hear that explanation. Thank you. Which a lot of people are upset by. A representative, Jamie Raskin, for Maryland, has since been very public about this, criticizing the DOJ, stating, I think that the DOJ has been in cover-up mode for many months and has been trying to sweep the entire thing under the rug. There's no way you run a billion-dollar international child sex trafficking ring with just two people committing crimes. Interestingly, though, the video of the deposition has elicited a very different kind of response. Of course, outrage that she's not answering any of the questions, but also conspiracy is that this is not Ghislaine Maxwell, that she's been replaced.

54:29Comments are reading, clearly not Ghislaine Maxwell. Wow, corruption is so smart. Is that her? That looks like somebody else, completely different.

54:36Amanda McLain:What's the problem? She looks different? Yeah. Oh. It could be the wonky glasses. It could be the video. It looks like a webcam. It could be that she's not Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't know. Okay. But it does sound like her, but I don't know. Some are saying she doesn't sound like her either. The imposter should be found and prosecuted if this is a phony. This is a trial. Like people are, there's a lot of thoughts in the comments. But according to the Clintons, the main reason that the Clintons continued to associate with Ghislaine was mainly because Ghislaine Maxwell was involved with two key people that were part of the Clintons' lives.

55:12Doug Band. This was, at the time, Bill Clinton's top aide. As evidenced by emails that Doug Band had with Ghislaine Maxwell, there was something going on. I don't know what it was, but it was something. She writes to him, Boo-boo, are you around? I am very ill and require immediate medical attention. I am suffering from boo-boo-titis.

55:37Yeah. No, I hate her. A very serious condition. Without a boo-boo fix, the symptoms become pronounced. Feeling is mutual, Doug Van responds. My boo-boo titus is also reaching epic proportions. Lots going on, but we'll be in boo-boo-ville the second you arrive. Then another one sent by Ghislaine Maxwell. Cries into the night that sound like Shakespeare sonnets that sound like this. oh douglas oh douglas wherefore art thou douglas doug pan states that he never had any physical relationship with galane maxwell and that she is a monster that's not what you said when you went to boo-booville though but he says there was absolutely no physical relationship that occurred between us ever so i don't know maybe it's just flirting over emails but he is being called to testify before the house oversight committee so we shall see they were close enough that galane according to the emails, tried to arrange and did purchase Doug Band a$35 ,000 AP watch for his birthday with Epstein.

56:37And she was asking Epstein, like, who should I say it's from, me or you? And he said, from us.

56:42Amanda McLain:Wow. Yeah. And I will say, side note, Doug Band had quite the bitter, contentious parting with the Clintons. That's like kind of for another time, but not really. So Doug Band was saying that Bill Clinton was driven nuts by Obama and that Hillary was bitter that she was not the president and that the Clintons consciously or unconsciously may not have wanted Hillary to win, which are very wild things to say. The Clintons and even Obama had refuted much of that sentiment. Hillary allegedly felt like Doug Band was enabling Bill Clinton's behavior, to which Doug Band is like the idea that anyone can control a person, especially a former president of the United States, is completely ridiculous.

57:18But later, another friend of the Clintons said the problem was Doug Band's ego. Quote, you had to kiss Doug Bann's ass to get anywhere. I mean, it was like Doug Bann began to think that he was Bill Clinton. Also, apparently, Doug Bann and Chelsea Clinton, the Clinton's daughter, had a long-standing rivalry with sources saying that Chelsea was upset because Bill Clinton saw Doug Bann as his son. And later, in a scathing internal email, Doug Bann wrote that Chelsea is acting like a, quote, spoiled brat kid who has nothing else to do but create issues to justify what she's doing because she, as she has said, hasn't found her way and has a lack of focus in her life.

57:51Bill Clinton says after Doug banned, Ghislaine Maxwell was in a relationship with Ted Waite, who is a billionaire that co-founded Gateway. And the Clintons are very close with Ted Waite. He's a huge, huge donor of the Clinton Foundation. Clinton says, I mean, that's the only reason that Ghislaine Maxwell came to their daughter's wedding, Chelsea Clinton's wedding, was because Ted Waite was invited and Ghislaine Maxwell was his plus one. Which, I mean, it does kind of, that makes sense a little bit, but still, I don't know if you are a former president. I'm sure you vet that list, that guest list up and down for anything.

58:29You have a DUI. That's heinous, by the way. You're out. You have petty theft. You're out. Like anything? No? This is, you know, way later. But Ghislaine, in her interview last year, said that she probably saw Bill Clinton probably around 2016. They had a dinner together. Yeah, and he confirms that it's been about a decade. And just like what Ghislaine Maxwell said about Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew, she is insistent that Bill Clinton was her friend and not Epstein's friend. But Bill Clinton is like, none of us were friends. I don't know what anybody's talking about.

59:06Amanda McLain:Oh, man. But here's also another thing that's interesting. I just noticed, and this could be me reading way too much into it, But Bill Clinton, when he talks about Epstein, there's a lot of condemning happening. But when he talks about Maxwell, it's almost passive condemning. It's just something that I noticed and it's a feeling that I have. He'll say things like, you know, we did not know when Epstein was arrested that she was still involved with him. I think that clears a lot of that up. I'm sorry for what she did and what she has allowed her life to become. And now she's living with it. it's not a strong condemning of like yeah fuck her can't believe she did that she deserves to rot in hell exactly disgusting yeah you know devil which is weird then they bring up the birthday note okay they bring up bill clinton's birthday note for epstein for epstein's 50th birthday why are we wishing traffickers a happy birthday okay traffickers should not even get another birthday but bill clinton is asked why did you write this letter why did i because i was requested to contribute a nice letter for his birthday book.

1:00:13They have him read a bit of the letter out loud, and he says, It's reassuring, isn't it? To have lasted so long across all the years of learning and knowing adventures and errors, and still to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference, and the solace of friends. He leans back, crosses his arms, and smiles. Not a bad letter. The birthday note states knowing adventures and errors. He's asked, For the record, you know, you weren't referring to errors and judgment that Mr. Epstein had related to his inappropriate activities involving Young. Absolutely not. I knew nothing about that.

1:00:47So he's just saying that it's just a shitty coincidence of word usage. There's a few more notes that Bill Clinton allegedly wrote to Epstein that he's asked about, which I will say, like, this is why it's so frustrating. Certain questions have a lot of high value. Like this birthday note probably has a little bit more high value of like, those are words that the American citizens were like, now, why would you write that? Why would you write that? So that's a good question. But then they start bringing up some dumb notes, which I'm like, now you're making this whole thing seem dumb, okay? Which apparently Bill Clinton wrote a get well soon note to Epstein's mom on a post-it.

1:01:20Not even like a fancy papyrus card that you have to pay$6 for. A post-it. Epstein saved the post-it. Bill Clinton is asked and he says, I mean, it looks like my handwriting, but I don't recall. But I will tell you this.

1:01:33Amanda McLain:I have written lots of get well notes to lots of people I did not know and have never met and you're like yeah I mean as the former president I'm sure you're writing a bunch of bullshit to people that you don't necessarily care about one of the notes that Bill Clinton also wrote to Epstein he kept on his plane and it reads along the lines of like thanks for inviting me and letting me invade your private space I'm exhausted and glad to get away from the crowd and we will forge ahead I'll finally figure out the financial stuff which all of it does seem on par with what Bill Clinton has been saying of like, oh, we were just going around for philanthropic efforts.

1:02:05Amanda McLain:So it's like when they bring these up, now it seems like, okay, what's happening? But you can tell where there are just certain topics where Bill Clinton and his lawyers, they don't seem to like to talk about it. And those notes are not one of those topics. However, the painting of Bill Clinton wearing what could be presumed as Monica Lewinsky's dress and sitting on the chair with his legs draped over they give him a picture of that so mr president we're looking at an image of you a portrait that looks to be of you mr president in this blue dress can you describe this painting his lawyer interjects he doesn't need to describe the painting you just gave him a picture what's your question do you understand why someone would paint this objection this calls for speculation you can ask the artist bill but bill clinton responds if i had known jeffrey epstein had this painting it would have saved me this whole day saying if he knew Epstein had this painting he would have never associated with Epstein and then he wouldn't be deposed right now.

1:03:05There are no emails suggesting that Bill Clinton ever visited the island though we have late Virginia Dufresne's allegation that he was on the island. The Secret Service has indicated that they had not been to the island and Bill Clinton does state that he has never signed off on Secret Service. So meaning that you would have to like sign off of like I don't want Secret Service protecting me right now. so that would be the only time that he would potentially go to the island without secret service and he has no record of signing off on secret service i see but he does admit that he did make a brief visit to epstein's manhattan townhouse but he does not recall if epstein was even there at the time which is kind of crazy how you don't recall that like are you just visiting people's empty homes without the homeowner there it's kind of odd like you would know that i think um he was trying to phrase it as like oh i was walking with my friend and they were like oh you know Epstein he lives right down there and he's so proud of his house which is this elementary school that's been converted so we should go we should just stop by and say hi because he's a donor he would love that blah blah blah they walk in he's making seem like we don't we were asking like who's Mr.

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1:06:50During a relationship at the time that you knew Mr. Epstein, what did you understand his job to be? I'm not sure I knew. It was never clear to me. But he could have been living on, you know, investing the profits that he's already made. I knew he was this finance guy. I would just like to ask you directly, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? The lawyer jumps in. Are you asking him to speculate on how Mr. Epstein died? I'm asking what the president thinks of, so you're asking his opinion. Mr. President, was your friend Jeffrey Epstein having thoughts of self-exit? Are you classifying him as a friend who he has testified that he was friendly with?

1:07:25So previously, Bill Clinton was like, I wouldn't say we were friends. I would say we were friendly, basically. And so the attorney is like, I mean, she's sharp. OK, she she's doing her job well, but it is kind of crazy. Mr. President, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was was inclined to self-exit? I don't know. I only know what the medical finding was. I think maybe he finally got caught in. I don't know. I've accepted it in my mind. I don't know what happened. Mr. President, what did you accept that he self-exited or that he did not? That he did, but I don't know. None of us know. We weren't there.

1:08:02Then Mark Middleton is brought up. The House committee states in the deposition and asks Bill Clinton. Mark Middleton was found dead at Hefner Ranch, approximately 30 miles from his home in Little Rock. He was discovered hanging from a tree by an extension cord around his neck with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his chest. So he was shot and on a rope. Do you have any information that leads you to suspect that he was, that he did not, that he did something other than self-exit? No. Do you have any concerns that this was in relation to his knowledge or relationship with Jeffrey Epstein given the date?

1:08:36I'm asking when you heard about this death, knowing about the things that have, at this point it's all over the news, seeing that he is self-exited. Have you ever had any conversations with people about whether or not there's any relationship between the two?

1:08:48Amanda McLain:Oh no, no one's ever suggested it to me. It's really sad. And this deposition has mixed feelings. A lot of people are, again, understandably so, it's become very political. It's kind of gotten annoying, I will say, where political in the sense of there are some people who are like, well, it's not Bill Clinton because Trump is deflecting or it's oh look Trump is finally going after these people because he's innocent and it's like let's just maybe not make it about politics and absolve people of guilt just based on their political alliance because that's just not how it works so I will say those types of sentiments have gotten annoying but um some people think that this quote this was such a waste of time and a joke because he was never going to answer anything honestly others are commenting if there was any substance to Clinton's involvement, you know damn well Trump would have thrown him under the bus and made it back up to anything to keep the lights off of his ass.

1:09:46Others are saying this is obviously political persecution by someone who himself is mentioned in the files a million times. Other people are saying he's a piece of shit when it comes to women and an absolute womanizer, but that doesn't inherently mean that he's into kids. Very possible to be one type and not the other. I don't think that this is as cut and dry with him as it is with someone like Trump. To which someone else comments, who fucking cares? Put them both in jail. Some netizens are actually frustrated with the questions being asked. Quote, these people are amateurs at best. A rock could have formed better questions.

1:10:17Another quote, corruption. These questions were carefully fabricated, mostly opinions and speculations. Seems like both sides are in bed with each other. If he goes down, so does everybody else who's included in that list. Another one reads, you'd think someone in this room would be capable of reading a clear and complete sentence out loud. Absolute incompetence. But here's the part that I can't get over. It's like everybody has their political alliance and they're going to feel one type of way. And it's we could go all day, like Hillary Clinton said, until the cows come home, going back and forth of, well, maybe he's bad, but your guy is badder.

1:10:52Or like maybe they're both bad, but your guy first. Like there's we could do this all day and nothing will ever happen. However, this is the most enlightening part to me and to a lot of people. A Democratic representative takes over questioning and they open with, it is well understood that you had a personal relationship with Mr. Epstein, and we will talk about that today. And they go on to state, it appears that you and other Democratic figures have been targeted by President Donald Trump in an attempt to distract the American people from his own longstanding relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

1:11:22And if that were true, it would not be the first time that President Trump has targeted his political enemies under the guise of law enforcement, which some people loved, some people hated. Obviously, you know why the Republicans would hate that type of conversation. But some Democrats were really opposed to sentiments like this saying, yes, the urgency is far greater and higher when there are questions about trafficking for the sitting president of the United States. But they're saying like, we don't think Bill Clinton is like off the hook either. So like we don't have to put him up on a pedestal.

1:11:54Like he's definitely done nothing wrong just to push, you know, they're saying it's like, however, I will say most Democrats are really happy that the Clintons were deposed and that they testified and they did not look for loopholes. I'm sure they did, but they didn't find a successful loophole to not be deposed because they have now set the Clinton rule that even presidents can be deposed if subpoenaed.

1:12:20Amanda McLain:I see. So who's next? You know, obviously everybody wants it to be Trump. This is the startling part. Bill Clinton is interestingly asked. So to get more information for this investigation was, you know, wondering if you also agree that President Trump should answer questions of this committee. That's for you to decide. But he didn't know him well. You know, and I once had a brief discussion. He didn't know him well. Trump didn't know Epstein well. Said by Bill. Yes, Clinton. Yeah. And I once had a brief discussion with him about it. I hate this because I don't believe, you know, I should inject anything, but I do not want to leave the impression But since there was no follow-up question The president never this is 20 something years ago Never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improper with regard to epstein Either, you know, he just didn't he just said we were friends and then we had a falling out over a land deal a property deal That's it Could I ask very briefly, Mr.

1:13:18President, if you recall, what were the circumstances of that conversation? Or at least, let's start with when did that conversation occur? He says that Trump told him this on a golf course decades ago, saying something along the lines of like, you know, Epstein and I had great times over the years, but we fell out all because of a real estate deal. He says he doesn't recall who brought it up in the conversation first on the golf course, if it was him or Trump. He can't imagine it was him because he, you know, would never do something like that. Do you recall whether President Trump elaborated at all on the great times that he had with Jeffrey Epstein?

1:13:48No, no. And I took, you know, at the time I took, I didn't put any sexual stint to it. He later reiterates once more, as I said earlier, the only conversation I had with President Trump about this was in the early 2000s. And I have no information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want everybody to, you know, get it all out there and let everybody see where we are, which a lot of people feel like this is straight out of a mutual destruction playbook. The way that Bill Clinton talks about Ghislaine Maxwell and Trump, the way that Ghislaine Maxwell talks about Bill Clinton and Trump, everybody is, like they're playing games, right, in front of their faces.

1:14:31That's the feeling. A lot of people think it's because both men are guilty, but only one of them is in office right now. That's why maybe Clinton is being nicer to Trump than Trump as being nice to Clinton about the files. But it seems like both of them, neither Clinton nor Trump, have had any scathing words for Ghislaine Maxwell, even though both of them have a hatred for trafficking and traffickers, right? And also, why is Bill Clinton going out of his way to tell everybody that Trump is innocent? The same Trump that made Hillary Clinton's life so unbearable for so long, too. Like, this is not like, oh, we're mutuals.

1:15:06Oh, we're part of the same party. It's so bizarre.

1:15:09Amanda McLain:Yeah. Depending on who you ask, public opinion will be, oh, because Bill Clinton's guilty, or because they both are, or with that being said, there's a lot on Trump. In July and August of 2025, the FBI internally circulated Epstein-related allegations that mention Trump. There are a lot of crazy, salacious allegations, by the way, and I think that this is where the conspiracies of their eating babies stems from because of this internal document. Now, this internal document, people have been kind of recklessly, and this is not in defense of the administration. Okay, this is, people are presenting this as these are valid FBI internal documents of crimes that have been committed.

1:15:53That's not what this is. So they, the FBI decided that they were going to compile a document of anybody who's even called in to give an allegation regarding Epstein and Trump. So they compiled this entire document. And on one side, they list what the phone call detailed or the tip detailed or the allegation detailed. And then in the middle, they detailed whether they were able to contact the person again to further interview them, whether they found corroborating evidence or whether they found no evidence or proof that this was a lie. And then oddly, the third little box they have on the right side was any criminal history that this person has.

1:16:31The one giving the allegation.

1:16:32Amanda McLain:Was this leaked? It was in the Epstein files dump Wow, okay It is important to note that most media outlets have reported Even places like the New York Times have reported That it seems that the FBI was not able to verify most of the allegations And that they deemed it to be unverifiable or not credible But I'm just going to tell you what it is There could be some things in here that are true There could be nothing in here that's true All of it could be true But just because it's in an internal document Does not mean that we can believe everything So one complaint summary on the internal note reads Caller named other individual Named in a big orgy party with her Other young girls and older VS models Victoria's Secret models Including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump So now this is saying that they were all in some sort of Big orgy party Yeah Which you know a lot of people have gone down With more memes of big beautiful Bill Oh right Right.

1:17:31Complainant reported participating in orgies and that some girls went missing, rumored to have been murdered and buried at a golf course. Complainant reported being threatened by Trump's then head of security that if she ever talked about what she saw or what happened, she would, quote, end up as fertilizer for the back nine holes like the other cunts. She claims that she saw cartels involved in the parties and that she watched Robin Leach, who I believe is a reporter, strangle a young girl to death at a party. The FBI note deems her claims to not be credible. Complainant was spoken to and deemed not credible.

1:18:01Additional research showed three separate incidents involving police, which requested in mandatory psychiatric evaluations. That's the internal note. I do believe that's where a lot of the baby sacrifices and consumption and conspiracies, like they all start stemming from here. Then another one. Complainant reported Donald Trump participated regularly in paying money to force her to perform acts with him and alleged Trump was present when her uncle murdered her newborn. child. Conclusion of the FBI was, quote, no contact made. Another caller believes that the FBI has pictures of her as a baby with Epstein.

1:18:36But the note that the agents made was, no contact made, previous tips indicated she had called in and said she had chemically induced amnesia and struggled with knowing what was a dream and what was reality.

1:18:45Amanda McLain:I mean, I do hope that the FBI did way more internally for gathering whether this is credible or not than just, oh, she has chemically induced amnesia because both things could be true but we don't know these are just internal notes another complainant tells the fbi and this is from the internal note again not stated as fact donald trump the president had parties at mar-a-lago called calendar girls jeffrey epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them off he measured the children's private parts by entering digits and rated private parts the guests were elder men and included elon musk don jr trump ivanka trump and eric trump are all their attorney alan dershowitz was also there with attorney bob shapiro we were taken in rooms forced to have with donald j trump forced to allow them to assault i was 13 years old when donald j trump our worded me glane maxwell was also present the fbi notes no contact information provided so this could just be like a call-in tip and then hang up right so this could be this could be true right it's it's a wild wild claim right i'm not saying that any of these people are absolved of any guilt and i don't think that they're guilty or anything but this is a very insane claim okay to have parties wouldn't it be so easy for them to find their contact though yeah it's fbi you know but i mean the way that they're running it right now i don't know if they're yeah but no contact information was provided so i maybe the fbi also deems maybe there's some sort of statistic if you don't leave your contact information it could be the same as prank calling i don't know how they see it i don't know how they rate it it's so interesting that you can just call them and leave a tip and um i imagine if you call police and say something really scary the police would be like oh shit we gotta investigate we gotta call them we gotta figure it out right yeah they don't just stop by oh they didn't tell me their address yeah they're gonna find out your name your address and they're gonna come to you and then probably arrest you right but yeah that's so interesting yeah the the note further reads no contact information provided so they just move on okay this is where it starts getting weird i think up until this point everyone no one really believes any of the previous allegations or like they i mean it would just be so crazy and if it's true i don't even know what the implications of something like that would be just on a global scale of like what these are like conspiracy theories that we never thought were going to be true and then they become true i don't know how that would even impact anything like it would be crazy but these are ones that netizens are taking more seriously again these are unverified allegations caller reported that in 1987 a friend victim one was out drinking and ended up at trump plaza victim one saw donald trump and wanted to meet him a unknown man approached her and offered to introduce her to trump the unknown man gave victim one a drink and victim one woke up naked and sore in bed with three hundred dollars on the bed victim one didn't remember how she got to the room she remembered seeing a flash of trump's face victim one called the caller and was like i think that i've been r-worded victim one did not go to the hospital to have an r-word kit performed because she didn't think that anyone would believe her, especially because she was drunk.

1:22:07They later state that victim one had a husband whose business had problems with suppliers and victim one believed Trump was behind it. Victim one also started dating a lawyer, identity is unknown, who was married. Victim one had a fight with her lawyer boyfriend and went to a bar. Victim one left a bar with a man who no one in the bar recognized, but who seemed familiar with victim one. Victim one was never seen again. A few years later, remains were discovered that matched the description of what victim one was wearing when she went missing. DNA tests at the time were inconclusive. The FBI notes no contact made, victim identified as deceased, and complainant do not have confirmed information.

1:22:46Amanda McLain:Okay. But worse than that, so this is released and it's bad because I mean we don't know how the FBI unconfirmed like said that these are uncredible accounts, how they were able to say that these are not real. Like we don't know. It just says unconfirmed. It doesn't say anything specific. So we don't know if it's really unconfirmed, if they were able to follow through with the steps or they're just like, they didn't leave contact information. So automatically unconfirmed. They have a history of psychiatric evaluations, automatically unconfirmed, like unverified. We don't know. So obviously this causes quite a bit of stir.

1:23:21And then of course there's people going online saying like, this is confirmed. This is what happened. They're eating babies. and then that's caused like a whole different situation of itself. However, this next part is the real problem. NPR publishes an article alleging that the DOJ has redacted 50 something pages and a House Oversight Committee ranking member, Representative Robert Garcia states, yesterday I reviewed those pages. I reviewed unredacted evidence logs that the DOJ oversight Democrats can confirm that the DOJ appears to have illegally withheld FBI interviews with a survivor who accused President Trump of heinous crimes.

1:23:55The White House response to this NPR article was in short, just as President Trump has said, he's been totally exonerated on anything related to Epstein. President Trump has done more for Epstein victims than anyone else before him. But the file is bad. So this is from July 8th, 2019, before Epstein dies in prison.

1:24:14Amanda McLain:Mm-hmm. Like a month before. And it's an FBI file. It's an FBI internal document where they're interviewing someone. At 1.43 p.m. Eastern Time, Blank, redacted, contacted the FBI National Threat Operations Center to report an unidentified friend who may have been abused by Jeffrey Epstein in an unknown manner. Redacted states that she was recently informed by an unidentified female friend currently residing in Portland, Oregon, that she was forced to perform oral sex on President Trump approximately 35 years ago in the state of New Jersey. Redacted friends stated that she was approximately 13 to 14 years of age when this occurred.

1:24:50The friend allegedly bit President Trump while performing oral and described his, quote, heavy breathing. The friend was allegedly hit in the face after she laughed about biting him. The FBI bring in the protected individual and she has a sit down interview with them. Now, again, just because the FBI interviews someone does not mean that their allegations are true. But what a lot of people feel is to have that interview seems like you kind of already feel or suspect or think. she states that Epstein blackmailed her mom as well, that Epstein had unclothed photos of her and blackmailed her mom and she had to, her mom, so this is what the victim is saying, like Epstein was crazy, he was blackmailing me, he blackmailed my mom, and my mom had to steal and embezzle money from the real estate company that she works for.

1:25:36Amanda McLain:This is the same person, the 13, 14 year old. Yes, I mean she's much older now, but yeah. And she had to pay him to not release these photos. Later in the interview, it's noted that she recalled at least one incident in which he either drove or flew her to New Jersey or New York and she was quote introduced to someone with money money. It was Donald Trump. She later states he had money it reeked off of him. She alleges that she could tell from the get-go that Trump did not like her because she dressed like a tomboy. She claims that Trump later asked everyone to leave the room and told her allegedly quote let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be.

1:26:12Then she alleges that he unzipped his pants and pushed her head down and she, quote, bit the shit out of it. The report then reads, Trump struck Redacted victim and said words to the effect of get this little bitch the hell out of here. Redacted advised she bit Trump because she was disgusted. The FBI report reads, Redacted got the feeling the relationship between Epstein and Trump included a certain amount of jealousy. She thought Trump appeared jealous of Epstein, but at some point they ended up on level playing fields. Trump and Epstein sometimes use the terms fresh meat, untainted, and not jaded while referring to girls.

1:26:42at the time she heard it redacted did not understand the term not jaded she subsequently looked up the word jaded redacted states she had two additional interactions with trump but she asked for the interview to move on to a different subject for the time being what is unjaded jaded is like this is okay in this context a lot of pdf files will say that they like young kids because they're so amused and i'm not jaded by the world and you know as people get older as women get older you realize that not a lot of men out there are good men and they can abuse you and maybe you know vice versa but it's just used in that very sick way i see yeah later she states that after she bit him the note reads quote she provided further details that he pulled her hair and punched her on the side of the head.

1:27:36She also alleges, per the FBI report, that quote, Epstein liked having little rubber things put into his anus so that he had her do it, such as a pencil, a big eraser, little rubber things, a water bottle, all inserted down there into Epstein, and that instead of using lubricant, he preferred kitchen oil. Now, this interview is back from 2019, before the allegations and rumors that Epstein is part of Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency like that was not a big thing back in the day in 2019 but she states to the FBI that she frequently heard Epstein speak in Hebrew around her but just because you speak Hebrew does not mean that you work for Mossad but a lot of people have been focusing on that as like he worked for the Mossad now the report continues Epstein talked about blackmailing people in front of Redacted Redacted was confident Trump knew Epstein blackmailed people because she heard Epstein and Trump talking about it.

1:28:27Redacted stated she knew Trump had illegal building permits. She heard Trump talking about washing money through casinos. Number six is Donald Trump's favorite number. Redacted was not sure how she knew that, but she had heard it at one point. One part of the FBI interview note reads, Redacted asked the agents to keep her safe, stating, throughout my life, Epstein's people have found me, have kept tabs on me, which Virginia Dufresne has also felt and expressed in her book before her passing. As of right now, these have not been proven to be credible allegations, which does not mean that they're not true.

1:29:01I would have no such information of that. However, one interesting thing to note again is that the FBI interviews this specific individual like three times. Which feels as if they're taking it very, very seriously. Then according to NPR, it doesn't really go anywhere because apparently someone in the FBI writes, one identified victim claimed abuse by trump but ultimately refused to cooperate so now the question with a lot of people is did the investigation go nowhere because the allegations are untrue or because this victim does not want to cooperate and that's why it led nowhere or it could be both right it could be untrue and she doesn't want to cooperate because they're untrue right we don't know there is also a second accuser and side note um i'm sure if you watch a lot of videos or consume a lot of articles about the whole Epstein situation.

1:29:52Accuser is technically how they're formally identified in a lot of reports and even reporting. But I feel like that word always has a negative connotation, but it's just best for legal purposes. But a second accuser has six interviews with the FBI and she claims that when she was around 13 years old, Epstein took her to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and that Epstein apparently told Trump, this is a good one, huh? She claims that both the men chuckled and she felt uncomfortable, but at the time she was too young to understand why. So there's a lot in the second accuser's interview that sounds very reminiscent of all the other accusers' accounts of abuse, which has led netizens to believing in their personal opinions that this may be true.

1:30:34The weird part about this is that these are not included in the dump. These like 16 something pages come days, weeks later because of this NPR expose oh like a separate drop yes this was not in like the three million pages drop so everyone's like why did you not just drop it with the three million pages in fact if you dropped it with the three million pages it probably would have taken a lot of people like we would have to dig for it right but then people found out that there was because they found out like through the way that the files were named and numbered so there was like a big chunk missing so they're like what's

1:31:08Amanda McLain:the chunk so npr exposed it then the house committee representatives went into the unredacted file computer that they have access to and they're like i found the files these are what they say and then the doj was like fine i'll release them how did npr get it yeah from some inside source no so they were going through like the metadata of files so they're like oh something is like we were this is weird oh i'm sure they have like probably ai and stuff to comb through massive amounts of metadata interesting okay yeah wow yeah so the da the doj though claims that the only reason that happened was the file was temporarily removed because it was flagged by a victim or their counsel for additional review which a lot of people don't believe because they're releasing all sorts of crazy things caroline levitt has stated these are completely baseless accusations backed by zero credible evidence from a sadly disturbed woman who has an extensive criminal history.

1:32:05The total baselessness of these accusations is also supported by the obvious fact that Joe Biden's Department of Justice knew about them for four years and did nothing with them because they knew President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. As we have said countless times, President Trump has been totally exonerated by the release of the Epstein files. But the House Oversight Democrats state, let's be clear, this White House cover-up is ongoing. Millions of pages still remain concealed from the public and our committee. So with that, that is what's going on right now with the epstein files those are the major news headlines in depth um there's just so many more files and there's you know a lot of people that we already talked about new details are coming out like remember the um goldman sachs she's the head of legal chief legal officer or something for goldman sachs she just recently resigned kathy she also worked with the Obamas.

1:32:59Yeah, she was like getting exposed for getting an Hermes bag from Epstein. And like, there's so much like random small stuff as well. But let me know what are your thoughts. And we're going to try to give as many updates as possible as time and capacity permits. But lots of people are doing really good reporting on the Epstein files. So what are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments and stay safe. I will see you in the next one.

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