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1:01And one of them would be having a decapitated horse statue head left on your bed. But that's exactly what happens to Mark and Tatiana Remley. This is part two of that entire case. Please go listen to the audio podcast part one. Otherwise, none of this is going to make sense. But we have at the center of all of this Mark and Tatiana Remley. They are honestly like a hot, rich couple from Southern California. And they're loaded. They spend$20 million to make this horse show called Valatar. It's going to be a mix of Cirque du Soleil and horse riding. Tatiana is going to be the face of the entire show, and it's going to be amazing until it's not.

1:43Until they abandon all the other performers and their horses, leaving them in just this massive red circus tent in the middle of San Diego, California, with no way to get back, with no way to even feed the horses. they leave them high and dry after just two performances of Valatar because it's a completely failed attempt. And it seems like the only thing going right in Tatiana and Mark Remley's life is their sex life where they constantly frequent an elite swingers club, sex club called Sanctum. This is where you go when not only do you want to see hot people do each other, you want to see someone dressed up in a historically, probably factual costume of Mary Antoinette doing the bounce on a champagne bottle.

2:27That is the club that you go to. It is rumored by Business Insider that Gwyneth Paltrow was a former member of Sanctum. So this is like a high-end Hollywood intimate club and they were frequent members. They're actually even part of a reality show that we're about to get into. So buckle up for part two and with that being said, let's get started.

3:07Everybody is left high and dry at the Valatar horse show. The horses are left. The performers are left. I mean, that's not even figurative. This is like real. The horses are left to starve. one of the biggest problems with the show that a lot of people say in hindsight is that tatiana sucks at riding horses and that's mean right she's fine she's mediocre but she has nowhere near the riding ability that seasoned professionals have you cannot compare a weekend golfer to someone at the pga but mark and tatiana want her to be the star of the show and everybody else has to accommodate her even if that means they have to lower their skills to make sure that she shines the hardest.

3:46I mean, to give you a little bit more context on Tatiana's capabilities, she would often just go out there. So they had two shows. Her face is plastered all over the billboards. If I buy a ticket to Valatar, what am I expecting? When this blonde woman comes out on a horse, I'm expecting a somersault in the air, land on a horse, and then do a headstand, eat your lunch off your feet. Like I'm expecting some sort of, holy cow, this is the most climactic part of this entire performance. this was worth all this money that I could have used for I don't know bills but instead a horse show like I'm getting something out of this right she would just come out on her horse and do a few figure eights not on the horse like she's not doing figure eights on the horse she's just riding the horse like a normal person and the horse is doing figure eights it's not like she's walking like the horse is just trotting in a figure eight and the whole thing is awkward because everybody in the crowd the customers they're sitting at the edge of their seat they're holding their breath the music is getting more climactic they're expecting something insane but then she just disappears it's said by people who went to the first two performances nobody even knew how to respond so they were just all looking at the person that they came with like and clapping like what's happening this caused so much tension that a lot of the seasoned professionals that would have performed to bring in the viewers they all end up leaving there are allegations that the couples just they also just spent money that didn't make any sense some people said that they were willing to spend unreasonable amounts of money on billboard advertisements with tatiana's face everywhere they were willing to spend money on tatiana's costumes but then when a horse would get injured they would cheapen out so they're trying to do this thing for all the wrong reasons yes like she want to be like a celebrity horse rider yeah i don't even think she wants to be a celebrity horse rider a mutual friend of theirs would later come out and say her goal in life was to be a housewife but not the housewife you're thinking one of the housewives of a major city on the bravo tv network housewives of orange county real housewife yeah the real housewives of early hills that was the her goal yeah and she spent 20 million dollars yeah i feel like there's gotta be a cheaper way i feel like you could have paid i don't know who the is it still the cohen guy you could have paid i feel like bribery could have been a good answer for that one someone in the bravo tv network i think you could bribe them for way less than 20 million dollars no offense that's crazy yeah in another instance this is very dumb but apparently tatiana just shows up one day with a new horse and just casually mentions oh i got a new horse okay these are horse people they know horses and there really is no price no value that you can put on a majestic horse's life but you can because that is a 30 000 horse you can't that's a 30 000 horse they ask her how much she paid for it $70 ,000 again you can't put a price on life you can't put a price on a horse but that's a$30 ,000 horse and she got scammed?

6:45yes she got scammed$40 ,000 more a mutual friend who witnessed this later says the asking price for the horse at the time was$30 ,000 so she managed to spend$40 ,000 more than the asking price just because she decided she wanted that horse and someone saw a sucker written on her face I guess That was their quote, not mine. Wow. Yeah. After the fall of Alatar, the Remlies come home one day, and one of the valuable horse statues in the house is left decapitated on their bed. Like I said, it's a threat. At this point, Mark and Tatiana, they have a lot of enemies, a lot of people who hate them. So someone broke into their house?

7:22One of the - Yes, forced their way in. Forced their way in. And Tatiana claims she knows exactly who did this. She knows exactly who's behind it. It's none other than her own husband, Mark Remley. I think stereotypes are inherently really bad. But one could argue that Mark and Tatiana don't really care. They kind of fit it. Everyone around them knew it. Mark is rich, worth close to$30 million. Tatiana is very hot. I would say out of couples I've seen in Southern California, there isn't even a massive discrepancy in appearance between the two. Both of them are conventionally attractive. They seemed like they would hit it off.

8:01How old are they? He's probably like in his 50s. She's probably in her 30s at this point. Oh, yeah. Okay. To 40s. 40s. Okay. They meet at a Starbucks, a chance meeting. Mark falls in love, marries Tatiana, moves her into his$5.5 million house. And now they're on a reality show called Naked Sanctum. It's all about the Sanctum sex club. It's a whole season, a documentary, following the founder, Damon. he goes around and it shows him preparing for these sexual erotic events while his entire family life falls apart It's like riveting and depressing at the same time The minute things start getting hot if you will in the documentary It cuts to him being like yes So my daughters won't talk to me anymore because they're getting bullied at school because someone found out about my job on instagram And um, yeah, they're bullying them and i'm like, oh That's not the right time to put that part in and then it cuts to him having like a three-person intimate party with two young girls of age women of age in his bedroom and then it's just like a monologue it cuts him sitting there being like i miss my ex-wife what i think she was my soulmate but she left me because i chose this life and she didn't and then it just like cuts to like moaning noises mary antoinette with a champagne bottle and then it cuts to him being like i'm actually really lonely so i'm like okay i don't know how to feel damon is a very interesting guy he says he has a lot of knowledge of the human intimate experience now just from Running Sanctum.

9:24He says, you know, a lot of husbands, they bring their wives and watching their wives interact and have intense intimate relations with another person in front of them is hot. Basically, he's talking about cucks. He says, the guys I've talked to directly about it say they get turned on seeing their partner turned on. They genuinely don't have jealousy or fear. They know that the woman's coming home with them. They know that. They're not worried and they really like to see their partner get pleasure from somebody else. That just turns them on. Also, of course, they're with another woman, so they have freedom too.

9:52So I'm like, okay, maybe they're swingers. Even for a couple that don't do anything, you know, a guy sees other guys hitting on his wife and he's like, oh yeah, I forgot my wife is hot. I forgot how hot she is. Or like, you know, the same thing in the other direction. It was healthy for a lot of people. You know, a lot of people told me it saved their marriage. But obviously, it's not just a great therapeutic experience for married couples. He mentions one time there was this very famous actress who came into an open room just having intense intimate relations with her husband and another guy and he says i could tell she was on too much xanax or something and it was like like it was not good we had to break it up because it seemed like she was not in her right mind which i believe now that he's left sanctum if you're interested in following his life ever he owns a restaurant bar on sunset boulevard in la called puzzle it's kind of like sanctum there's dancers but it's a dinner and you can't have full-blown intimate relations but one review from someone i don't think they realized the environment they were getting into the review reads we went to puzzle last weekend for my birthday we went to the restaurant and the lady who was attending to us first of all was clueless it was a tiny place barely 10 tables music was no good the singers were singing and dancing literally on top of our heads the dancing lady did nothing but take off her clothes with the music and stayed almost naked the whole time i was confused yeah but in the reality show that aired a few years back there's a very specific couple on there a couple shows up under the pseudonyms of Vladimir and his wife Ileana but they get invited to this exclusive so Damon is holding a private dinner at his house in the Hollywood Hills I believe very close to the playboy mansion which would also make it very close to Sean Diddy Combs's house here we are again right but they will eat they will watch each other eat and they will eat and they will eat other things and watch each other eat other things and then repeat and not all the steps are obviously involving food but vladimir and his wife are seated at the table these are pseudonyms it's not vladimir and iliana it's mark remley and tatiana remley just sitting there in the flesh okay mark remley says what damon has created here is an opportunity for people to open their minds tatiana is just staring lovingly at her husband as if he just discovered quantum physics she's like nodding and then she chimes in i'm all about pushing limits and we're going to follow sanctum and we're going to go where it goes and just pursue it and enjoy it and life and pursue ourselves and our love and our romance and our sexuality and i had zero clue what that meant and once most of the meal is over with all prepared by this personal chef that had a michelin star restaurant I believe a violinist walks down the steps of the mansion and in walk two girls wearing bunny masks and they're naked one has the word touch written on her chest the other one has eat me written on her chest so it's very like the directions are pretty clear they're climbing onto the table they just start making out before heading into the final act where they're just both like laying on the dinner table doing things the violinist later says this they they're showing all of this in the show you don't like you see lots of nudity but you don't see explicit oh i see and of course oh yeah but you like right okay i don't know if youtube likes that word you're just okay but like you see you see where the placement of body parts are so you infer right okay obviously you know the violinist is standing there and she says i was just trying to focus on playing the violin really well which obviously takes a little bit of focus and then it just like cuts to her playing the violin and her eyes are just staring at the two girls on the dinner table and i'm like what am i watching then another girl comes in with a maid costume with a cake the two original girls somehow there's like giant carrots put inside the cake they take out the carrots you know what they do with carrots and then they're like there's icing everywhere and then at one point tatiana gets up on the table and starts eating a bunny meal like with one of the girls you were saying Yes, and Mark Remley is just admiring his wife visually and physically, and the camera is like behind her, and he's like lifting up her skirt.

14:05I don't know. And then she finally gets up and she jokes, I think I look guilty. And he says, you do. The proof is on your mouth, because she has icing on her mouth now. Then it just cuts to them sitting together outside, and Mark Remley says, the entertainment is bar none. And Tatiana looks really serious, as if she is witnessing a profound, enlightening moment. Beautiful. She's like interjecting. Beautiful. He says the quality of the performers, you know, the sexuality that they exude, it just gets you off. It gets you going. It really does. Tatiana says the bunnies were beautiful. They're sensuous.

14:38There's something enticing about their energy and it draws me to them. I cannot stop myself. Like all the taboos of this world, everything just dissolves in their energy. And then it cuts to one of the bunnies coming over to hug Tatiana. And Mark is just watching as they just start getting unclothed. and we see Tatiana unclothed and they just start doing a lot of things. And Mark Remley tells the viewers, you know, sex is probably the biggest part of our lives. Yes. Tatiana's gonna say yes. Sex is the center of our universe and everything we derive around it and it revolves around it. And in the beginning of our relationship, we weren't into this lifestyle.

15:15But as time grew on and our sexuality grew together and Sanctum made it all that much more amazing. Mark continues, I'm kind of like an adrenaline junkie, actually. You know, I love to take risks and I love to live life on the edge. I'm drawn to things that push the limits. Tatiana looks at him. And we live life to the fullest every moment we can. I think people have a hard time in this environment, in this country, in this day and time embracing their sexuality and embracing, you know, being all that you can be. I think they want to embrace it, but they're scared. It's magical. It's amazing. You feel incredible.

15:49You feel real.

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18:40Mark and Tatiana, like I said, Vladimir and Ileana are their pseudonyms. These are the owners of the failed Valatar horse show. Do you know if this is before or after or just happening at the same time? Happening seems like at the same time. Yeah. And the founder of Sanctum is asked about the couple because, you know, he saw them and then, you know, they make news later. And he says they seem to be really happy with what was going on. They seem really happy with each other and really excited about the experience. I mean, they seemed really into it. It's just that the wife, Tatiana, didn't really seem like an authentic character to me.

19:13She seemed a little bit fake. I've been doing this a while and I've been dealing with people like this a long time and I have a pretty good sense of character at this point. There was something off about her for sure, but I don't think he saw it. I think he was in love with her. I think he really cared for her. Whatever she was pulling, I don't think he was aware of it. So he's just saying the way she's describing, it was beautiful, it was magical. So I, unfortunately, I watched, I mean, I couldn't really find the exact episode that they were featured in. So just to be thorough, I watched the whole season even though they showed up in like episode 3 I don't know why I did that but I thought they would show up again I don't know but all the other very wealthy couples that go on there they're very blunt about the experience they're like yeah it's hot like it's hot we do it it gets us going and then we're hotter to each other and we like it it's hot but then when you see Tatiana it's very like ethereal and spiritual and it's like this moment when all the other couples are like I just like looking at hot people do hot things and it makes my husband and wife hotter to me.

20:17That was about it. So I think that's what he's insinuating. It just felt and it did feel performative in the sense of like you do meet some people who are very into like tantric experiences where they think and they genuinely feel it's like an awakening as they're doing certain things with their partner. And it's like this connection that transcends above all in this very physical moment. But that was not the vibe that she was giving. She's just performative like being doing a lot. Yeah Yeah, a former business partner of Mark's that also knew Tatiana says I mean at one point Mark was just calling him Non-stop like he's explaining.

20:51He's just calling me non-stop. What does that mean? So he used to work with Mark They had multiple failed business deals. They're not really besties anymore There's no reason for them to be calling each other They don't really have a friendship outside of that But Mark keeps calling him and it's like come to San Diego. Let's hang out and he's like, what are we gonna do? hang out? Like, are you trying to get me into another business venture that's going to fail? And he's like, no. Let's just hang out. He's like, I don't know why you keep saying hang out. We're not really friends. He says, quote, eventually I got sick of dealing with Mark and I stopped returning his phone calls.

21:20A month later, maybe two months later, a mutual friend of ours was at my place and we were just talking about it and I just brought it up. Like, it's a weird thing. Like, why was Mark Remley bothering me? And he immediately knew the answer and he just said, oh, Tatiana wants to sleep with you while he watches. Damn. So apparently they were trying to get me to come down there and have sex with Tatiana while Mark watched for whatever reason. We never did get the answer if he went or not. But here's a very odd detail on the show. They go as Vladimir and Ileana, which seems like a random choice of pseudonyms for the show, and there is a speculation of an intense interest in Russian culture and Russian aesthetics, and no one really knows if Tatiana is even Russian, because we don't think Tatiana is her real name.

21:59We'll get to it. But it's not random. Tatiana has allegedly stated in the past that she was essayed by her brother. Now, the people she told about this, she told them that her brother's name was Vladimir. Okay. So why would you choose a pseudonym for your husband that is, first of all, your brother? Even if he didn't assault you, that's a very odd choice. Right. Or like that's not even her brother's name, right? Yeah. It's just all weird. Just weird connection. Yeah. Very off. And the mutual friend said there's something wrong with her. That's a really weird thing to do I mean 100 % I know that Mark didn't pick the name That was her idea Mark's not even that creative to come up with a pseudonym like that So I'm sure she picked it And why would she pick that name if that's who molested her?

22:42Her brother Even if he didn't molest her Just her brother's name? Really bizarre Friends say their relationship was just getting toxic They had a much healthier relationship in the beginning Aside from the colossal financial failure that was Valatar At least they were both business oriented They're always working on something Is it the best thing in the world? No. Is it something that's going to run them into bankruptcy? Perhaps, but it's something. Eventually, their entire relationship just revolves around sleeping with different people. The Del Mar Fire Department get a phone call. A residential home is on fire.

23:11The entire house is up in flames and it's a big one. It's$5.5 million of the house burning to the ground. Firefighters get to the scene, put out the fire before it can start spreading. But it's just weird. You can tell that this is not a normally occurring fire. This doesn't even seem like an accident. And like, yes, we are in Southern California, but this doesn't make sense. The bomb and arson unit of the Del Mar Fire Department start investigating the cause of the fire. And the first persons of interest are going to be whoever is at the scene of the crime. That makes sense. And they find two women.

23:43One of them, interestingly, has three guns with her and a ton of ammunition. I mean, technically, she does have every right to be there though, kind of, because it's the house that she shares with Mark. What the hell is Tatiana Remley doing there with guns and ammunition when the house is burning down. Some people just have a lot more targets on their back than others. Some people could go the rest of their lives and no one wants to harm them. And then you have someone like Mark Remley, co-founder of Signal Corp, tech company that lives off of DOD, Department of Defense contracts. They operate, execute large-scale federal IT projects, primarily dealing with high-end government contracts.

24:20He was almost a VP there for 20 years, executive VP, chief information officer. The company had an annual sales at its peak, surpassing$600 million from the government. Eventually, he retires. Mark Remley inherits close to$26 million. And that seems to be a mix from his work at Signal when he exits and from his parents passing. So they're all wealthy. And that's when he meets Tatiana at Starbucks. And it's not the worst of the book tropes, but it does feel like something that only happens in a modern contemporary romance in the category of rom-com that doesn't take itself too seriously like that's the vibe it gives they get married and suddenly tatiana has a 218 000 engagement ring the first year that they're married because now tatiana has to fit into this higher upper class life he buys her 200 000 worth of clothes yeah 200 000 worth of clothes worth of clothes okay i saw the clothes okay just like designer on designer on designer not a lot of clothes though for clothes really yeah i think it was a lot of lingerie for two hundred thousand dollars and she moves into the five and a half million dollar house they have multiple properties all over san diego hawaii california and by the way that's not like a weird remark i think like if you want to you can wear whatever you want to wear i was just saying two hundred thousand dollars is like an unthinkable amount to spend on clothing yeah i'm like expecting a house full of clothes you get the house and the clothes and it's just they they're living this life she even posts on facebook in hawaii making lunch in the kitchen and you just see this massive rainbow across the island but there are some things that even money cannot buy like some things that you can't even pay someone to make you forget like your ex because 1300 miles away from valatar the horse show near seattle washington on a giant billboard taking up the eyeball real estate of a boring highway where there's really nothing to look at except for the exit signs and maybe a chick-fil-a sign maybe an in-and-out sign there's just a giant billboard of tatiana her blonde hair next to her two beautiful horses they don't necessarily have any valeteer doesn't really have active plans to do shows in seattle they barely have shows in California but the billboard is there because that is the road that Ken will cut a very wealthy man Ken is a real estate developer in Seattle part owner of the NBA Sonics he's worth close to 40 million dollars he lives in Seattle and he takes this highway every damn day to get to work and he has to see his goddamn ex-wife blown up on the side of the road he might be one of the few people that know a lot about Tatiana and he's got to look at her every single day.

27:07That's fucking crazy. Yeah. So she only did that on that one specific billboard in that city for her ex-husband to look at. Yeah. Is it to rub it on his face or okay? Yeah, they had a very contentious divorce and he seems like he is the only one that might know a lot about Tatiana. I mean, there's not a lot about her out there. There's so much of her out there, but really not a lot about her out there. That is crazy. This is like one of the craziest things. Her name is probably not even Tatiana. It's speculated that she was born Tanya. Tatiana's parents seem to have like a Russian fixation. Tatiana perhaps leaned into it.

27:47It seems like maybe they had some Russian heritage in their family. I don't know. Her parents are just from Bend, Oregon. Tatiana was born in Phoenix, Arizona. And it's speculated she was Tanya. They never really went to Russia. They never grew up in Russia. not saying that you have to grow up in Russia to be part of the Russian culture or to celebrate your Russian ancestry. It's just her parents are Vera and Brian, and she just leans into the Russian aesthetic really hard. And then she starts leaning out. I think that's where it gets interesting. Leaning out as like her look or? Her look, the obsessions that she has.

28:24So when she was very into the Russian aesthetic, it was all about how you can be an equestrian in like the Russian way. So every different country has their own style of horse riding. So Russia has a very specific type and they like specific horses that fit that aesthetic. And you have like the long blowing blonde hair. And then you wear like very swaying fabrics. It's like a very specific look. And then you have like the country girl horse, which is like you've got the tight jeans. You've got the boots. You've got the cowboy hat. also beautiful but it's like a very different aesthetic yeah so she just kind of picks and chooses and some people speculate she picks and chooses depending on what she thinks the guy that she is dating will like i see so you're saying um so if the guy is like i love me a cowgirl she will be a cowgirl if the guy is like i love like that eastern european yeah yeah you know some american dude is like i love an exotic yeah got it then she might lean into that but i will say a mutual friend does say something very interesting.

29:29they say tatiana is perhaps a persona that she made up and maybe it came from childhood trauma and she just like needs a character that she would become that wasn't tortured. i don't know but i don't think any of it is real. so that's what the friend says about tatiana being a character that she plays. ken wolcott, tatiana's ex-husband, says her childhood was really rough. she grew up near bend oregon but in the rural area she didn't have any social interactions really with anybody growing up. It sounds like her parents might have been involved in a religious group that might border the loosely defined word of a cult.

30:04She wasn't allowed to have traditional medicine or medical care. It's believed that her family fully rejected all forms of any life-saving medicines, any discomfort-leaving medicines. The way Ken Wilcott saw it and the way he later describes it is he thinks a lot of Tatiana's emotional disruption comes from the fact that she was essentially held captive for 10 years by her parents. They didn't allow her to have any friends. She wasn't even enrolled in school after the fourth grade Impressively, she got her GED, but it was just a rough life Before marrying Ken Wilcott, Tatiana had a daughter with a separate guy Now, she marries Ken, has a son with him, and they are married for a total of 11 months And short does not mean simple because their divorce is very, very messy Ken alleges that Tatiana misused his finances More specifically, he gave Tatiana a card to use to purchase clothes.

30:54She would buy the clothes with his credit card and then return the clothes and then ask for cash for the return instead of for returning it back to the card. Which I feel like that's impressive. And I feel like as a husband, you should support that because why are you okay with her spending the money on clothes unless she's spending the cash on something else? I don't know. You would think that a millionaire would be impressed by her financial ability to think ahead but no he's very upset he also accused Tatiana of being inattentive to their son who was born with extra support needs and that's when they separate he says that he wasn't going to send her nine thousand dollars a month to care for their son because she's using it fully on herself she's not using it on their son so he wants full custody of the son and he wants to stop paying her child support he also just overall disagrees with the way that she's living her life so ultimately he ends up with full custody but this is where things get interesting and I think this is where lots of people have sympathy for Tatiana.

31:50All the guys in her life still like her to some degree because he continues paying child support even though he has full custody, like out of his own volition. It's not because the judge orders him to. Okay. So, I mean, there must be something that they see that is good in Tatiana, perhaps. Okay. So just keep this in mind. Okay. But some of Tatiana's friends say that she had a strong pattern of going after wealthy guys and then depending on them for her financial needs. But she also seems to have an energy that they seem to love According to friends, the relationship between Mark and Tatiana Remley is interesting Technically, on paper, Mark is the one with the power He's got the substantial resources But friends say he's like a dog Like a little puppy dog He's obsessed with Tatiana Whatever she wants, he's doing it, no questions asked Mark seems so obsessed with Tatiana Even to the point where he still loves her No matter if they fail at their businesses Lose$20 million If she frivolously spends money purchasing billboards for her ex-husband if she goes to intimate parties and has intimate relations with other people in front of him and even when she tries to have him killed.

32:53August 2nd, 2023, there is another chance encounter at Starbucks. At least that's what it feels like. It's a very casual meeting. A guy sitting on the patio with an ice drink. He's wearing a tank top and shorts. It's August. It's hot. And then you have a woman sitting there. At one point, he leans in, says something to the woman before getting up and walking into the Starbucks and entering the restroom. She leans back in her chair waiting for him And that is when four San Diego police officers pull up in two separate vehicles Tatiana Remley, you are under arrest For trying to hire an undercover officer to kill your husband for two million dollars What?

33:30So what? Two million? That's probably crazy That's like the highest we've ever heard, right? Yeah, and it's not two million dollars that she has I mean, perhaps the worst part of all of this is that she would be using Mark Ramley's money to kill Mark Ramley, to get the rest of Mark Ramley's money. Do you know how she did it? Is it just like Googling and... No, you're gonna... Well, I don't want to say that, but you're gonna laugh. She reached out. I mean, these are all... They're all like swingers. They're reaching out. They're doing things with each other. She reaches out to a mutual friend of them.

34:01And it's like, hey, can you kill my husband? He's like, let me think about it. It's crazy. Call San Diego Police Department. Oh my God. It always happens like this too. Yeah. They're just like calling friends and calling someone so randomly. I don't know who in their life knows anyone that would have any experience with a hitman. Yeah. Okay. So the mutual friend just called the cops. Called the cops and was like, I don't know what to do. Calls Mark and is like, hey, Mark, you better watch out. So then the cops are like, we know what to do. Tell her you know somebody who can do it. Undercover cop.