“I Got $4k To Rub Baby Oil On Her & Sean Watched In A Corner” - Male Worker Testifies In Combs Trial

33:39And then Cassie came running into the living room and she literally jumped into my lap and she was shaking. Like literally, like her whole body was shaking. Her whole entire body was shaking. Like she was terrified. And what did you say to her? I asked her, why is she doing this? Why is she staying with this guy if he's objection? And the judge asks Attorney Donaldson from the defense, what's the grounds for the objection? Here say. overruled. So prosecutor Comey, and it's like, there's a lot of objections throughout all of this. So I feel like we keep, like we're trying to figure out what's happening and then there's objections and then we keep getting little bits and then there's objections.

34:17And so prosecutor Comey continues. Can you tell us again what you said to Cassie? I asked her why she was staying with this guy if he was hitting her and beating her like this. And I tried to explain to her that she was in real danger if she stayed with him. And she basically tried to convince me that it was okay it's okay i'm fine i'll be okay and i just kept trying to tell her that you're not okay and you need to get help what do you remember happening next she and i were alone and this was the first time we were alone and cassie is not somebody that likes to kiss objection overruled so the witness continues during our interactions cassie was not a kisser but in this instance she just started making out with me wait when was this this is the shivering part yeah did did he just left a hotel okay and she just started making out with me and we ended up getting into you know into it but the fact that I was alone with her this time I had no problem getting physically uh capable down there right and right when we were actually starting to have intimate relations I I realized that Mr.

35:26Combs had re-entered the room and he was sort of sneaking around the corner and watching us. And once he realized that we could see him, he came into the room and basically was saying like, yeah, that he liked that. He liked that we were getting along in that way. And what do you remember happening next? I think the second that he came back into the room, I was done again. I couldn't, I couldn't continue. Why didn't you go to the police after this incident? I told you again, I was concerned for my life. By this point, he had taken my ID and taking a picture of it and I felt threatened by what he said to me and I felt that at the very least I could try to get her to realize that she needed to leave and maybe try to help her in that way.

36:04There's a few other key events in the witness that he talks about in his testimony. The first being that he states there was another time where he went to visit Cassie and Sean Combs where he says he walks in and there's a man having intimate relations with Cassie already. He says she was actually giving him like oral there was a lot of oral activity going on most of the time and the prosecutor asked and what do you remember happening during that particular intimate act the guy kept on looking at Sean in the face Sean Combs in the face and Mr. Combs turned to him and basically told him look motherfucker you better stop looking at me in my face and the guy got like real scared and he's like I'm not looking at you and he's like you better not be be fucking looking at me and Cassie jumped off the couch and like ran to the opposite side of the room and the guy was just saying like profusely I'm not looking at you I swear I'm not looking at you which a lot of netizens thought this was kind of an interesting moment they thought the psychology was fascinating and I'm not trying to like psychoanalyze anybody because I don't think I have the faculties for that but a lot of people say it's fascinating because he loves to watch which would categorize him as what the internet likes to call like a you know but he's someone that you can't even make eye contact with while it's happening so there's there's a lot of like psychological perhaps ego power and yeah maybe even some shame involved is what i saw some yeah yeah he got real triggered when yeah when someone look at him back yeah he's in the corner like yeah which did kind of send me down a spiral reading those comments because the days that i've spent staring at this guy i feel like this is someone who does not shy away from eye contact especially at least in the beginning right but maybe he just likes eye contact in very specific situations because now there's like no eye contact with i feel not many people and after cassie ran away what do you remember happening next the guy told mr combs i'm not looking at you mr combs said okay all right let's let's we're here to have fun not do anything else and then he told cassie to come back to the couch and cassie asked if they were absolutely positive that they're good now because she was um she seemed like she was scared to go back to the couch which side note the witness does testify and i think the prosecutors are trying to lay the groundwork or maybe even the evidence they're asking questions to establish the fact that these freak-offs happened for sometimes days at a time is what they argued in even their opening statement to which the witness talks about how quote just times that i would come to the hotel room and there would be like towels on the floor that looked used and bottles of baby oil that were almost finished and astroglide that was halfway used and it just looked like you know it looked like someone had already been there already he also states that he was only ever paid for intimate relations that if he went there without having intimate relations because sometimes he couldn't physically perform he would not get paid furthermore he states that anytime he would get paid it was around 700 to five to six thousand dollars and though it was mainly Cassie handing him the cash, he states he does remember Sean Combs coming out once and quote, I remember he came out of the room once and he asked me and the other gentleman if we had gotten our bread.

39:16However, he does state that he personally never felt like he was being paid to have intimate relations. Even though he knows that he only got paid for the times that he did have those acts, he says, well, I for one was not someone that was getting paid for intimate relations. In my head I was just excited that I was in this world and you know happy to be involved with people with such notoriety I didn't care if I got paid one way or another I never asked them for a single dollar they gave that to me every time that I went to see them so for me it was just you know this is just something that they do they have that kind of money they want to share it with me I'm fine with that which at this point Sean Combs does turn to look now the prosecutor okay so the jury are all all facing the left side of the room so we're in the pews we're all facing the judge at the front of the room okay everybody's facing the judge sean combs is facing the judge the prosecutors are facing the judge the jury they're facing the left side so they're looking at like sean combs's side profile everybody's side profile but there's a podium right next to the jurors and that is where the prosecutor or the defense attorney will go up and they will examine the witnesses i see so it's at least from where i'm sitting it was unclear if he's looking at the prosecutor or if he's looking at the jurors but at this point when the witness says that sean combs does kind of tilt and do like a small nod i'm sorry what did he say again he says i was just happy like they have this money and they want to share this money with it so it sounds like a very positive thing slightly so far this is maybe the only thing that could be interpreted as even remotely positive about Sean Combs in this witness's testimony.

40:58And he turns towards, I don't know if it's towards the prosecutor, I'm imagining it's for the jury, but he does like a small nod. Yeah, yeah. I guess indicating that he too feels like he's just sharing the love through money. I don't know. Now, the witness says he's scared. He says that Sean Combs took his ID, saying it's just in case, and he's kind of freaking out about it. And there were a lot of parts from this witness's testimony that are really transparent to the point that if it were not in this case in this situation in a courtroom setting it could maybe come off as vulgar perhaps because it's the truth it's a lot to hear like people are not sugarcoating the truth in a courtroom he will testify and state things like he would tell her to blow me halfway into the direct sean combs's daughters so they're all adults they just had turned 18 recently i believe and they first leave to use the restroom once the testimony starts getting into that area of a lot of explicit details.

42:01They come back after the restroom and the testimony is still very sexual in nature so they leave once more and they don't come back. So they sit out the rest of the testimony. The three daughters. Yeah, but the mother and the sons, they stay. And that's also been a huge conversation online. The fact that Sean Combs' kids are showing up to support him in court. Typically, netizens say that it's supposed to show that the defendant has a large support group that supports them and believes in their innocence, most likely is what they're showing to the jurors. Like, I believe this person is innocent and I'm supporting them.

42:33However, in this case, netizens think it's telling that the three youngest daughters that are barely adults are in attendance. with netizens feeling like if they were Sean Combs, they would bar their daughters, at the very least, if not all their kids from the courtroom because they don't want them to experience this level of trauma and hearing these things being said and the allegations and the accusations. So the sentiment here being the girls being there probably traumatizes them and only benefits Sean Combs. Now, to be fair, I do think that the girls have flown back to California. I don't think they're in New York anymore.

43:09So they showed up for two days. I don't know if they're going to come back. I'm assuming they will come back. But at this point, we don't know. Now, they say that he's not trying to be a good father, but he's just trying so hard to appear to be a good father to the jury. That's why he wanted his kids there. Other people also think that it's weird that his elderly mother is just sitting there listening to witnesses testifying about this kind of stuff. But there have been also lots of stories about his mother, perhaps maybe having similar interests. I don't know. those are allegations. Those are what people who personally know the family have been alleging and accusing online.

43:43You can find all of that online. I'm not the one alleging this. But one netizen comments, if Diddy's 18-year-old daughters are too young to hear of his DV and SA case, then Cassie was too young to have been groomed and trafficked by their father. So there's a lot of very strong opinions out there on the internet about this. I will say that the family is, yeah, there's just a lot going on every time the family comes in. Even when they go in and out for lunch, they all get into this like giant van. Sometimes when they leave for the day, this also happens. There's, I think it's one person. I don't know if it's a different person every time.

44:16I don't get a good look at their face, but someone is just on a speaker playing me and you by Cassie. I, this is like multiple times I've heard and seen like the family. And then you just hear me and you blasting near the courthouse. And side note, since we're on the topic of the family, I just want to run you through the energy of the family really quick. Cause there's a lot of energy there so christian combs this is kim porter's first child with sean combs christian combs he is he reminds me a lot of sean combs from the very little i know from like being in that courtroom a few days you know what i mean but he just like his mannerisms that he does similar um in the first episode i talked about diddy would do this thing where he looks back and he like holds people's gazes and then he stopped doing that but i feel like christian combs he does that he doesn't do it often but like randomly he just he has like this he turns to the side and he will look back and it's a very like intense gaze i don't think he's specifically looking at anyone i don't think he even means to he just has very similar mannerisms i think he also likes to walk in with his hands in his pockets he does this thing where his tongue is always flicked to the corner of his mouth.

45:33So I do think that Christian Combs has very similar energy to Sean Combs. A lot of the time during witness testimonies, he is, I see him putting his arm around his mom, or not his mom, but Sean Combs' mom, so Christian's grandmother, and his arm is around her, or he's like comforting her somewhat, or he's just like staring off into the abyss or staring at the judge or something. Justin Combs, which is Sean Combs' son with Misa Hilton, I often see him taking notes and also passing notes. And I'm always like, I wonder what that note says. Do I do anything about it? No, but I always wonder. And then Quincy, who is I'll be sure and Kim Porter's son, he seems the most locked in.

46:21Like he's more observant. I don't see him as often taking notes, but he seems like he's very attentive and like paying very close attention to all the things that are happening. Yeah. So with that, so far, this second witness, I feel like he seems very honest. And that is my opinion and perception. Even when he walks into the courtroom, he takes up a lot of space. I'm not really sure how to explain it because he's not a very tall man. He's kind of on the shorter side. But the way he walks, he's very buff. His shoulders are wide. He gives me similar energy to the security guy where they just look like they have 100 % muscle mass and all of his answers to questions are incredibly direct.

47:03It does not feel like he's trying to shy away from telling us the truth, even if it's uncomfortable. To me, his cadence, to me, in my opinion, does not indicate someone that's trying to remember what to say or, and like most of his pauses feel incredibly natural. Like he's just trying to recall certain memories and situations. Also on top of that, I feel like nothing about this is comfortable for him very clearly. because when he walks into that courtroom, I said, there's a presence about him, right? So he walks through the aisle. He walks past Sean Combs on his left, the jurors, 12 jurors on his right.

47:37He sits right next to the judge and that is when his body language completely shifts. When he sits on that witness stand, he is not, he's like, he's not hiding, but he's so hunched over, you can barely see the top of his head because there's a computer at the witness stand. There's a computer there because they have to show like evidence pictures. He just, you can't even see the top of his head. But when you see other people that are probably similar in height sitting there, you see a good chunk of their chest, their neck, their head. You just see the top of his head peeking over the computer screen.

48:13I felt like that in conjunction with the testimony. He looks like he's melting into his chair. It felt very honest. He could be the world's best liar, but to me it just felt kind of honest. I think it's interesting because that's what your take right yeah I feel like maybe some of the jurors or a lot of them may feel the same way like oh they can trust yeah what he's saying because that's the energy that they get there was not one point where I felt like he was saying something to make himself appear better or to make himself appear more law-abiding it just felt almost uncomfortably honest right yeah like he was tied up to a truth machine is my opinion and again I could be naive I could be dumb he could be the world's best liar but um I mean he is on the stand that would be perjury he's asked were there times when you texted her and she did not respond she never responded to my text messages usually like he's like that honest so it feels like it's very interesting to see him going into the cross-examination and the main person that's going to be doing that is defense attorney Xavier Donaldson now to be fair I do want to preface this before we get into this.

49:22He was one of the later additions to the defense team. He joined the defense team days before the trial. Days before the trial. I mean, what are we supposed to expect? Mark Agnifilo was hired a full year ago. So the difference in preparation time is massive. So just keep that in mind throughout all of this because I feel like even in the courthouse, I have only heard, and this is probably like off the record, I don't even know what that means, right? But I've only ever heard people say incredibly positive things about Attorney Donaldson. but this cross-examination I could not look away and this was the first trial that my researchers and I are attending we obviously watch live streams of trials we go through copious amounts of court transcripts so we were confused because maybe sometimes things don't translate on camera or maybe sometimes things don't translate on transcripts when transcripts are the only things available so we were confused on like is this a normal cross-examination because it doesn't feel like it and it doesn't match any of the other copious amounts of cross-examinations we've seen on other trials that are recorded.

50:21My researcher even passed me a note that read what is happening because we were a little bit lost. So Attorney Donaldson, I feel like up until now, he's just been like this six foot five tower. I mean, I don't know his actual height. He feels seven feet tall. He's just impeccably dressed every single day. He's very stoic. You don't see him socializing too, too much. He appears to be very focused most of the time. this is our first time seeing him in his element and again to preface i don't even think this is his element because he just got on the trial like days before the trial like he just got on this case so he's about to cross-examine the witness witness number two i think that brian steel and xavier donaldson have similar mannerisms in the sense that when they get to the podium they like to use their body i think they're both showmen and i mean that maybe in a good way i think in a FBI director's daughter, Maureen Comey.

51:20She's the lead on this. She has her own thing where she is blunt, to the point, very direct, and her cadence is very addicting to listen to. She actually reminds me of the judge. Their communication style, nothing gets lost in translation. Some of the other attorneys, I feel like maybe I'm dumb, but this feels a little rambly. Like when they're trying to like plead something to the judge, I'm like, I feel like this is like a a lot of words happening right now. With Comey, I never feel that. Her communication is like so clear, so direct. It's just so, same with the judge is how I feel. Everything's so clear, so direct.

51:58They're effective communicators. And this is like you and the researchers. Oh yeah. You guys all feel this way. So you can assume that probably some of the jurors feel similarly. Yes. And it's not even just us and the researchers because when I have certain feelings like this, sometimes I'll even like ask other journalists or reporters that are not like other like I'm one but you know I will ask some of the journalists or reporters that are also in the press and they will kind of guide me like yeah I mean we all think similar things of a b c or d not I'm not saying they think all the similar things that I think or anything like that I'm just saying like certain things yeah okay yeah yeah a lot of them think Comey is very sharp yeah

52:50so tenny is also very eloquent so tenny garagos is on the defense team very eloquent but she doesn't emphasize words as satisfying as comey does and it's very interesting because in the next episode you're actually going to see comey and tenny kind of go head to head and it's almost like a yeah it was very interesting to see but both steel and attorney donaldson give me showman vibes it's like the whole energy i feel like brian steel has let me explain this is like how i felt it went down he walks up to the podium he takes his time donaldson you're talking no brian steel he walks up to the podium he takes his time i don't know if that's the intention but it feels like it naturally builds tension yes it feels like he's only gonna start when he's ready like he uses a lot of power poses as well but i don't know why when ryan steel does it it feels so natural like i'm telling you like the hands on the hips blazer popped open hip to the side he does all these power poses that i feel like if any other guy did a lot of people would be like ick right but he does it in a way where it almost comes off like dad vibes yeah yeah because even like you know the viral clips of like yeah like truly humble under god yeah the way he delivers that he's so passionate yeah it's like you can you it's not you right it's so much conviction in that is that that's the trick i guess yeah like i feel i feel i do feel that he appears like the most genuine out of the defense team and i i don't know if genuine is the right word Like he just feels very passionate when he does talk.

54:35Yeah, he's very committed to whatever the bit is, whether it's a bit or not, right? But he uses a lot of power poses. He puts his arms on his side. His chest is always up and out. And I don't know if it's the fact that I know he lives in Atlanta. I don't even know if he's from the South originally. But it gives me like a Southern gentleman vibe. Now, as for Attorney Donaldson, he gives me more of like a polished aura about him. And so when he talks, he likes to have both of his hands in the air. So his palms are facing him, open hand. And he does this a lot where he's asking questions and he'll push the air away, push the air in.

55:14So it's like back and forth. Like come closer, go away, come closer, go away. That type of feeling. But I'm just going to be so for real about this. I don't even know where to start. The word of the day is correct. and we counted because I don't know why. Why do we count? What's the word of day? Correct. Correct. I don't know why. Why do we count? We are annoying people who calculate what a pen-sized amount of a stack of cash would be, but we counted, and this is the span over cross-examination that's lasted two days. So it didn't last two full days, but it was like the later part of one day and then the beginning of one day.

55:54So the first day, it was around 97 corrects. the second day it was around 115 corrects he just keeps saying correct in this yes in this total cross-examination i would safely say that attorney donaldson said correct 200 times and the way he does it is not like he's saying correct like affirmative yes he would do this thing where he will say then you open the door correct then you went into the room correct and it was just like this very interesting cadence that was to me in my opinion felt very hard to follow so when attorney donaldson gets up onto the podium he's everywhere but on that podium he is not really using that mic he's looking around the courtroom a lot at one point during cross-examination and we all wrote this down it looked like he made question like looked out the window and then bounced back back into the question but there was like a slight pause and he was looking out the window i don't know if he was looking out the window or if he was looking at the jurors there's a window behind them it was just there was so much it was so hectic the whole cross exit he's taking off his glasses putting them back on but not necessarily to read anything and i do feel like this with the whole defense team i don't are you saying like he's doing a lot but not delivering yes it felt kind of like what you expect from a crime show yeah okay so what are like some of the things he he's asked or yeah we're gonna get into it but just the mannerisms and like this is a side note about the whole defense team i don't know how reading glasses work but we're all confused about how they're reading glasses work like all of them brian steel sean combs savior donaldson feels sometimes sporadic okay so the glasses are coming off they're coming in they're like he he's holding them with both arms behind his back holding his glasses he's moving side to side he's he's doing like almost a 360 where he's turned his full body to the defense because the juror is on the other side then he turns it towards the family that side and then even like towards the press i don't think again he's not specifically looking at the press that's not what i'm indicating but like his body is moving a lot he's turning up some points he looks up at the ceiling so do you is it does it look like he's nervous or does it look like that's just how he always is i think he is nervous i think that he was not given adequate time because he just came onto the case okay okay so i'm just going to give you a highlight overview of the cross uh attorney donaldson asks a question to the witness basically asking if his job was to help develop the website for the male i guess what the public has been dubbing male escorts that he works for and to make it more popular so he's basically saying like aren't you there to help this website get more popular and gain traction and the witness states yes and no and he responds well yes now and then he's about to ask a question but the judge has to stop him and say quote the jury should disregard counsel's last statement and there should be no statements there should just be questions so it just feels like he's making interesting i don't want to say mistakes so he's not supposed to make statement it should be a question but he made a mistake of stating a statement yeah and then mid questioning he'll have to he'll just be like can i have a second please your honor it just felt like he was very underprepared at one point the witness even asks the attorney you're asking that question not in the right way if you would like me to specify I will like it just the witness is correcting him witness was the witness was going off on the attorney it's so interesting because he is you know the prosecutor's witness so obviously he's going to have a much friendlier relationship usually with the prosecutor and when marine comey prosecutor marine comey is asking him questions a lot of the times if it's a yes or no question he will respond like yes ma 'am or like no blah blah blah and then he'll elaborate but with attorney Donaldson he's like pretty hostile but understandably so I think he's just like that is correct that is incorrect like very like he yeah it's very like he's snappy with it so attorney Donaldson asks then when you met with Cassie Ventura on that first day you were not going for prostitution correct correct you were going to optimize the lady's experience, correct?

1:00:25I have no idea what that means. Yeah. So the attorney is like, you were going to optimize the lady's experience, correct? I have no idea what that means. You have no idea what the company slogan that you worked for means in regards to me going there to optimize the lady's experience. I don't know what you're referring to. Can you be specific with your question? Yes. The company slogan was to provide the ultimate ladies night experience, correct? That was the company slogan. Yes. So it's just like very, I didn't, I just didn't know the point in some of these questions. And then some questions were just going over what I felt like we already knew.

1:01:04You worked for the company, correct? Correct. Yes, I did. The company sent you to a lady that night, correct? Yes, I did. So you were going there to do the ultimate ladies night experience, correct? I certainly was going there to give a great experience yes for a ladies night for a lady correct for a bachelorette party is what I thought it was correct so are you saying that a lot of these like somewhat dumb questions never lead to anything the feeling is like it never landed where are we going with this we don't know yes and now I do think okay so there were so many parts where I'm like but you know what I'm not an attorney maybe these attorneys are so smart they're 10 steps ahead and we don't even know the end game right but i don't think the juror the jurors are not attorneys the jurors are like i'm a juror basically no okay i'm not a juror on this case but in the sense of like i am a normal human being without law school experience yeah so i would imagine that i would have a perception maybe similar to jurors rather than attorneys because maybe attorneys in the comments you're like oh no he's doing this because of abc and dne and you can elaborate and I would love to read those comments but as someone with no legal experience I'm like um what are we doing I don't understand what's going on so by the end of it did you figure out what his goal is what angle is he going in by the end of it he made me feel more confident in the witness he the cross examination made the witness more credible to me in my opinion because the the whole time he's just like correct and the witness's tone is a lot more assertive and firm like no yes like no i just told you so it feels like he he knows what's going on right donaldson also kept asking questions that the witness would say is incorrect but it wasn't ever clarified so it just made me feel like what do you mean he'd be like didn't you do this correct and then he'd be like incorrect and then they would never really clarify so i'm just like okay where is he getting that information from is he just getting wrong information is he what's happening right now it just didn't make any sense and again maybe i'm done maybe attorneys can leave in the comments for me and like help us out because we were scratching our heads over it and another example the defense attorney would ask sir isn't it actually a fact that cassie ventura called you on that first incident and told you to come to the Gramercy Hotel?

1:03:36That is incorrect. Isn't it a fact that Cassie told you to come to the Gramercy Hotel and ask for a person named Black? Later on, but not to the Gramercy Park Hotel. No. Isn't it true that Cassie called you on the phone and told you that I'm celebrating something for my birthday and my husband wants to give me something special? Isn't that correct? That is not correct. Would you like me to? No, I don't. Okay. so at this point we yes i hear you and then now now i want to know exactly when is that event or why is it incorrect but they never clear yeah and then but actually this whole thing was spoken about when the prosecutor were were doing their direct so comey was asking and he was saying that he went out because his boss called him and said hey can you do this bachelorette party because they want a black dancer we don't have any black dancers right now except for you can you go he bought an NYPD shirt he knocks on the door she opens with red lingerie do you remember and then now the line of questioning is like she called you to come to the hotel and ask for black and he's like no not the Gramercy hotel my boss called me yeah so it's like we just heard the story in a different format and then now it's like wait I'm so confused like I felt confused because I'm like I don't know if he's talking about what we just talked about but like that doesn't sound right to me either yeah yeah yeah like why is he asking yes a different story right yeah and then I'm like is there something I don't know like did the witness say this at a different time where he said a different story I don't know but it just didn't it was weird and then there's also just really strange geographical lines of questioning that made me feel like I'm just trying to put a puzzle together in my mind and it's not working now when you got to the hotel room when you got to the hotel I believe you said according to you on your direct you arrived at the front door and I believe you knocked on the door is that fair to say correct When you knocked on the door, someone answered that door.

1:05:31Is that fair to say? Correct. This person that answered the door was a beautiful woman. Would that be fair to say? Correct. And you recall that in your mind, there was a beautiful woman opening the door, correct? Correct. It's the same question in three formats. Yeah, and she was wearing a wig at that point, correct? Correct. And at that point prior to you, well, strike that, you hadn't talked to her about money, correct? You didn't talk to her about how much you would get paid for coming there, correct? So when you knocked on her door, Cassie brought up to you something about money, correct? Correct.

1:06:06And that is before you had intimate relations. Correct. So then at that point, Cassie gave you money, correct? Yeah, correct. Correct. So as soon as you knocked on the door, she opened the door and you had a conversation about what? You're asking me? Yes. When you opened, sure. You knocked on the door, right? Sure. is that right that's correct she opened the door correct correct you saw a beautiful woman there correct you're kidding yes correct the back to the door yeah no okay i i looked over because i was you know i was getting a little bit confused because again maybe there's something i'm missing because i'm not an attorney and i do look over and there are um well i don't know if i should go that in depth but there are other reporters on the other side and I just see one of them and this could be a coincidence this could be absolutely nothing he could just be really tired because I think everyone in that courtroom was tired he's just like rubbing his eyes he starts from his nose bridge using his two fingers rubbing his eyes for a good minute this man was in distress and he's just reporting yeah I think it was very frustrating how about did he team oh i don't want to start drama not that they would even watch this but what that you they were reacting to this too sean combs was very reactive really not at this point but he gets even more reactive later but this is when i say that his statuesque thing i felt is something that's strategic for the courtroom because he was no longer statuesque he was doing what I can best describe as a three-point look, which is he's looking at the witness in my perception, and this could be false, this is just what I felt and what I perceived with my own two eyeballs.

1:07:59He's looking at the witness. I feel like he glances at the jury, and then he looks at Attorney Donaldson in like a three-point what-the-hell look. Like, what is, like, oh my God, everything is falling apart type of look. And then he would just look at Attorney Donaldson. There's one point where clearly, I mean, everyone on the defense is like waiting for certain moments and they know what the key moments that they're trying to hit during this cross is. Donaldson asks the witness a question. Well, it's a statement plus correct question mark, right? And I do think that the response that they were, I don't even remember the question.

1:08:36It was not that important of a question, or at least I felt to me it felt insignificant because I don't recall the question. If it was that important, I do think I would recall that question clearly, right? But Attorney Donaldson asks a question, da-da-da-da, correct? And at this point, Sean Combs, he turns his body to the jury and he's staring at the jury. He's alert. His back is straight. He's like a Boy Scout on command, okay? He's ready to like, I don't know. Yeah. But then the witness says, incorrect. And you see, I saw Sean Combs' eyebrows scrunch and then he sits like leans back again turns away from the jury and he looks incredibly confused so i think this was all a rehearsed thing for the defense like okay during the cross-examination we're gonna ask him this and he's going to say correct and that's how we get him yeah that's like that that's the mic drop moment that's what it felt like and then they got hit with it incorrect and you don't even remember what it was it did not feel like a significant question i think I think the problem was the cadence the flow of the cross I don't even remember much I had to re-go through the transcripts because I'm like I don't even know what happened how many hours were the the first day for for that like he was asking these questions for how long maybe like 40 minutes so the 40 minutes he's just asking correct yeah and then like all the questions I didn't get a setting I didn't even know where we were it was just like where are you in relation to the couch you're here correct like it was very confusing I'm like wait which incident is he talking about again and then by the time I'm like oh he's talking about that it would be a completely different thing that he's like correct and then it was just so the pacing was so strange that I didn't know what was happening most of the time got it so you're confused you're lost yeah you didn't get the point no and then no yeah and then he'll say things like okay and then now let's get the image right you were in the hallway correct yes correct she's in the door correct correct and at that moment she hands you the money she invites me into the hotel room i go into the room she closes the door behind me and then she says to me your boss told me that upon arrival i have to give you 100 or 200 and i said correct and then she handed me about four thousand dollars or somewhere around that ballpark.

1:11:01$4 ,000? Roughly. And this is all before any oil rubbing, correct? Yes, correct. Before any hugging, is that correct? That is correct. Before any kissing, is that correct? Correct. Then it just starts kind of getting weird. Now, she was standing in, I believe you said lingerie? Correct. She had on heels, correct? Correct. She was just lingerie, heels and a wig, correct? Correct. A pair of dark glasses. And a pair of dark glasses? Correct. Later he says, after you got the money, then you looked to the right and saw a man sitting in the chair. That is incorrect. You looked to the left and saw the man sitting in the chair.

1:11:43After she handed me the money, we walked into the room, fully past the hall, past the little hallway that was there, toward the couch that was in front of us with the candles and everything on it. And then I looked to the left and on the right side of the room if i'm facing mr combs mr combs was sitting in the chair with a robe on hat and a bandana over his face yeah i feel like i recall that yeah better than what yeah that's what i pictured yeah okay yeah yeah so now while you were standing there with cassie and after you received the money you were going to start rubbing baby oil on her correct correct she began rubbing baby oil on you correct correct and this is while she still had on her lingerie correct at that point at some point our clothes were off she wasn't rubbing baby oil on me with my clothes on let's walk through it sure so you get in there you have i'm sorry i forgot this part you were wearing a new york city police department shirt correct that's correct at one point the witness even says if you don't mind could you please talk into the microphone i can hardly hear you when you step away because at this point he was like moving around a lot he would kind of um it's like when in the movies you see like so like he had he would have his arms behind his back holding his glasses and then he would kind of pace and he would look at like three different people in the room and he'd be like is that correct and then everyone's like we can't hear you yeah and then he's not asking anything yeah it's just your name is john correct yeah and then he asks and you took the oil off in front of cassie or you want or you went somewhere else to do that?

1:13:14I took the oil off. I'm sorry, you took the shirt off in front of Cassie. I took my clothes off in front of Cassie, yes. So at that moment, you got the money. You then took off all your clothes, correct? At the moment I got the money, I did not take off all my clothes. After you got the money, you had a conversation first. She walked me into the hotel room and then after she had already explained to me, hey listen, it's my birthday. I want, you know, to do this instead of the dance, the bachelorette party, I want you to rub baby oil on me, rub me down, give me a massage and wherever things go from there, whatever you're comfortable with, we can do.

1:13:49And so I told her when I was comfortable with giving her that massage and rubbing her down and I asked her if she wanted me to do the same, like to remove my clothes as well. And so I stripped down to well, as well to my underwear. Okay. So you stripped down to your underwear and at that point she's rubbing baby oil on you. I'm rubbing her down and then she starts doing the same to me and it started getting intimate. And we, when you say it started getting intimate, uh-huh. You mean that you're rubbing her down. You're rubbing her breasts. You're rubbing her whole body down, correct? After she started touching me, yes, I started touching her erotically as well.

1:14:22And at that point, Mr. Combs is in the corner. He's not saying anything, correct? No, he's in the corner, self-pleasuring immediately. Okay. And while you are, while Cassie is rubbing you down, it appears that she's enjoying herself. Would that be fair to say? Yes. And you are rubbing her down and you are enjoying yourself correct yes so i think at this point the line of questioning is to prove that perhaps like i guess the point trying to being made by the defense is that cassie seemed to be enjoying it so it was something that she wanted to participate in but it just i think it just gets lost in the sauce and then that's why you're saying you became it started getting intimate correct correct because you started getting sexually aroused correct absolutely yes other confusing parts donaldson asks and at some point she took off your underwear correct i took off my underwear you took off your underwear correct correct i think these parts were made more dramatic by the fact that i feel like attorney donaldson's cadence always feels like there's about to be a mic drop moment the way he paces the way he looks at the ceiling looks around at the room i'm like waiting for a bomb to drop like okay the next question he's asking like we're about to uncover something that is drastically going to change the case as we know it only for the witness to just quickly and bluntly tell him yeah no that's not what happened other notable parts mid-question someone sneezes in the courtroom attorney donaldson stops mid-question to say bless you and i don't know the whole cross-examination i think like i said the direct examination by the prosecutors felt vulgar in the sense that he's stating what happened and sometimes what happened is not family friendly and it's not the easiest things to hear and sometimes you do have to use explicit words because there's no better way to clearly communicate exactly the events that occurred but I felt like with the cross-examination things just got really vulgar like a lot of the headline moments come I think from the cross-examination and it just felt like I didn't understand why it had to get so weird.

1:16:32For example, Attorney Donaldson asks, and after you took off your underwear, I imagine at that point she is still rubbing you down, correct? We're rubbing each other down. She was rubbing you down after you took off your underwear, correct? Correct. And she started massaging your down there, correct? I don't recall. Did he use the turns? I don't recall the particulars of how that happened. I just know that we ended up having sex. Okay, so you didn't have intimate relations standing up, correct? No. Okay, so after you were standing up, you then laid her down on the couch. Is that fair to say? Correct.

1:17:08And then intimate relations occurred for, I believe you said, well, not believe, but approximately 30 minutes, correct? No. The first time, that was probably the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. That was really fast. So when you say the most beautiful woman you've ever seen, that caused you to finish fast? Yeah. Were you on top of her or behind her at this point? I have no idea what time frame during this you're referring to. This could be at any point in the interaction. In the Gramercy Hotel, when you received$2 ,000, were you on top of her, behind her? What happened? Are you asking when I finished?

1:17:39Yes. What position I had her in? I asked that. It was missionary. It was a missionary position. Later, he asks, okay. She also asked you to send a picture of your down there, correct? That is correct. and she also informed you that you had the largest down there that she had ever seen before correct that is correct and she had said that to you also while you were having intimate relations with her the first time correct that is correct so the first time you were having intimate relations with her you were not only aroused at her beauty she was aroused at the size of your down there correct i get the point that he's trying to make but it just didn't hit at least for someone that's not of a legal background and just like a regular shmegular person yeah yeah yeah okay so like you said he's trying to say that oh cassie liked this encounter yes that's the point he's trying to make but i think the way he's phrasing it almost felt kind of gross like yeah like behind her like she said yeah i don't know i i do feel like there would have been better ways to phrase it which would also help the defense case.

1:18:50Yeah, yeah. He also asks questions that I just, again, I think the defense is trying to prove that Cassie was involved in facilitating, orchestrating, and I guess they're trying to say that she liked and wanted these freak-offs. But I just don't know if this is like, it doesn't make sense to me why they're asking him this question. They would ask, she also paid for this hotel visit with her credit card, correct? He's like, I don't know what she paid for with the hotel. I have nothing to do with that. Well, you did learn from your boss that Miss Ventura paid for this hotel stay with her credit card, correct?

1:19:27That's not correct. She paid for the dancer to come to her with the credit card. I have no idea who paid for the hotel. I mean, honestly, it got to the point where I did think maybe the defense was playing chess. I'm like, maybe they're stalling or something. Because I'm like, maybe, because the next witness is Cassie. so I thought but like I didn't understand what they could possibly be stalling for and like there was no way that this was going to continue going on so it just didn't really make sense so the cross-examination is not doing them any favor yes but maybe again I don't know maybe this is going to come up later and then it's going to come full circle and I go oh okay so that's why they were asking these what I thought were odd questions but near the end there's this moment where this is like the second day everything is quiet i think attorney donaldson was like in the middle of trying to think of his next question or like going through a paper or something and you just hear the sketch artist sketching away like you just hear because they they have this giant poster board and they chalk the background and everything so there's a lot so there's a lot of chalk noise it's like and they're clearly drawing him and did you see the finished drawing yeah and if it were me i would be very stressed as well because it's a lot of pressure i assume but at this point the judge requests a sidebar where there's white noise playing so anytime there's a sidebar the attorneys from both sides and the judge will go to a corner of the courtroom so what at what situation would they request that um it's just when they don't want a juror like usually like problems with something that's happening that they don't really want the jurors to know so there's white noise playing right but some of the sidebars are included in the court transcripts because they're not sealed like it's not it's not confidential yeah yeah yeah so they don't want the jurors to know to hear to hear yeah okay but you guys also couldn't no they play white noise yeah but but with the transcript you know what was said so this is included in the court transcript for that day but the problem was attorney donaldson is questioning and he's pointing out what he believes are inconsistencies.

1:21:37So he has the witness's testimony from an interview that the witness did in 2024 with the prosecutors. And then his recent testimony, like a few hours ago, and they're saying there's slight inconsistencies. I see. Oh, that's why he was so confident because everything is based off that 2024. Yeah. So he's saying like the witness allegedly in the 2024 interview you said that he felt jealous once when Sean Combs and Cassie were having intimate relations without him participating. But then this time he said that he was never jealous when Sean Combs was having intimate relations with Cassie because they would go into the bedroom for hours at a time, right?

1:22:18So he was trying to point out that inconsistency, but he had that paper of the original interview on the podium, which I said is right next to the jurors. Okay. Now the judge is asking him because the judge requested a sidebar all right do you have the document like right in front of the jury that you're reading from i have it to the side so i can read you know i'm trying to make sure that i you can't do that they can't see the document judge it's right in front of the juror okay prosecutor comey says your honor i just realized that mr donaldson had his papers on the bar right in front of the jury throughout the cross-examination like literally they can see it that close don't it's really close i don't know if any of them were trying to read it i don't think anyone read it and i'm sure like you'd have to have some so they're really not supposed to be reading that no yeah attorney donaldson tries to explain i'll do whatever i can to make sure that the juror can't see it it wasn't my intention to do that so it's clear about that and just the rest of the cross-examination is oh that's what they want to discuss yeah oh is that paper visible to them okay and then the rest of the cross-examination is uneventful except the The whole time he's getting stared down by Sean Combs.

1:23:33And Sean Combs is doing the three-point look, the witness, what I think is the jury, and then Donaldson. It's like he's watching a third party at this point. He's jotting down notes. He's got his eyebrows furrowed. In fact, any time the defense, this isn't even just Attorney Donaldson, any time the defense looks a little less prepared or their objection gets denied or their applications get denied, the way Sean Combs looks at them is like what am I paying you for like it's very like hello yeah like it just looks like hello and I do think like it's unfortunate and I think it's interesting how fast emotions change in a courtroom because when we do research on these cases and we're reading court transcripts and even when we're watching live streams of everything that's happening in court it's so very easy to hold on to emotions i don't know why right but when you're in the i think it's like energy when there's a collective energy that shifts it's so hard to fight against it so during the direct examination by the prosecutors it was really depressing to hear about all the times that he alleges that he saw violence against cassie and it just it it's shocking, it's salacious, but it's really heavy.

1:24:53And then the minute that cross-examination starts, it just feels like, just like kind of frustrating and confusing. So it's like very weird how many emotions I feel like people go through just watching what's happening in court. We're not even involved, you know, but to watch, it's like a collective emotion. So I do think it's frustrating that that emotion dissipates. And I wonder if that same thing happens for the jurors. if they feel like a sense of anger and like oh this is bad and then the cross-examination happens and they're like what just happened and so they lose that oh my gosh this like emotional testimony and then it just turns into what was that maybe that's their strategy maybe i don't know yeah now during the prosecutor's rebuttal um comey asks a series of questions that do kind of um Do what I think she intended.

1:25:48I mean, there were statements. She's asking questions, but there were statements made. She says, so let's break it down. So she's back. Who would direct you and Cassie to rub baby oil on each other? Sean Combs. And who would direct Cassie to perform old sex on you? Sean Combs. Who would direct you and Cassie to have intercourse with each other? Sean Combs. Is Sean Combs the same man who threw a liquor bottle across the room when Cassie asked him to wait a minute? Yes. Is that the same man that grabbed her by the hair and dragged her to the bedroom? Yes. Is that the same man who called her bitch while you heard her say I'm sorry and heard smacking sounds?

1:26:24Yes. Is that the same man who then came out of that same room and asked you and told you and Cassie, in essence, to have intimate relations again? In essence, yes. There is a brief argument on the fact that the witness did send a text message to Cassie saying that he loves Cassie and Sean Combs, which in another redirect prosecutor comey asks him why did you send that text message because i was trying to get her to respond to my messages she would not respond to my messages and the only way that i could see if she was okay was to try and bait her into making her and mr combs believed that i had no problem with what he had done so that they would invite me back so that i could see for myself that she was okay no further questions and then uh attorney donaldson moves to strike.

1:27:04And there is, um, here's the thing about prosecutor Comey. I don't know this woman. Um, I think so far, I really don't know anything about her background. I don't even know much about her father. I know he's a very politically divisive person. I should probably do more research. I should probably be more informed. Um, however, from what I've seen in like the past week, she's so sharp and she does not emote when she does, when she talks, she does not emote. I mentioned that in the last episode however if you say something that i think that she perceives as dumb which is probably everything because she seems very intelligent she emotes she emotes so she asked this last question not even going to the podium so it's like a quick rebuttal that she does on the prosecutor's table so she's at the very first row and donaldson is behind her and then i'm behind them not like immediately but like all the way in the back of the room so i can see both their faces when they turn around like when comey turns around i can see her face right yeah and uh he says move to strike and she wait what did she say she said like oh why did you send that text message and then he says i just wanted to make sure that she was okay and she says no further questions donaldson says move to strike the judge says on what basis donald says donaldson says non-responsive right comey turns around what does that mean can we translate that into like easier move to strike like he wants that he wants the jurors to forget this information right and he's like on what grounds and i guess whatever grounds he's saying doesn't make sense because comey turns around and the way she looks at him i wish i had a more professional way of like describing it but it's like hello like this is ridiculous like like no like like are thinking are you thinking am i thinking who's thinking right now uh-huh like that's the vibe she gives me yeah so and then she says it's totally responsive to why he did send that text your honor and so the judge overrules and it's just like very interesting the way like she never emotes until an attorney does something which she might perceive as dumb and then suddenly she cannot hide her emote her emote is emoting so strong like it like is a lot really yeah it's like a are you dumb look like i don't know how else to describe it that's the so she has two modes either effective communicator but blank or are you dumb whoa yeah and then what did donelson say or do after it was just overruled okay yeah okay that was the end of this yeah but it was um And it seemed very tense for the defense during that time.

1:29:48But not as tense as it's about to get. Because after this cross, there is a quick break. A group, and we go outside the courtroom. And there's this little, I don't even really know what to call it. It's just like an open area. And then the elevator is in the restroom. But in that open area, there's a group of maybe 10 people. And they're standing outside, right outside the courtroom. And they're either arms on each other's shoulders. kind of like a football huddle style some of them are just holding hands and they are in a prayer circle at least that's what it looks like and it's all sean combs's family because now oh the whole family went out already yeah oh during the break you said yes and they are in a prayer circle huddled together because cassie is about to start testifying and that is where i leave you and i am going to go through Cassie's direct and her cross-examination, which actually hasn't happened at the time that I'm filming this.

1:30:44I literally have to go to court in like two hours. So yeah, we're gonna, that'll be the next part of this, everything that's been going on with the trial. What are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments. And again, these are just my perceptions, my observations, my opinions. And I do think that attorney Donaldson is, I think he will accomplish, he has accomplished probably more in one day than I will do in a lifetime I do think that it's very unfair that he was added on to the case so late I think if he had a year as some of the other attorneys on the defense had I think he would have I don't want to say he would have nailed the cross because that's weird but I think he would have he would have performed at his normal scale you know because i've only heard very good things about him but that was just my opinion of this very isolated event so what are your thoughts leave it in the comments and i will see you in the next one