Unpacking 3 Million Pages Of Epstein Files + Epstein’s Secret 2 Hour Interview

25:58Bannon Bank. I give you a dollar, one single dollar. In our system of banking, I would say, okay, Steve, I give you a dollar. How much could you lend out to your friends? Your natural reaction would be something less than a dollar because I want to keep something in my pocket. The way our system works is if you are a bank and holding one dollar, you can lend out an additional six, eight to nine dollars. You're going to say, no, it's impossible. I only have one dollar, Jeffrey. We have something called fractionalized reserves. If you have one, you can lend out nine. That's the way our system works.

26:30And so not only do leaders not understand banking, but the man on the street, my father who worked in a park department, it would be beyond his imagination. Next question. He also says he's not impressed meeting world leaders because, quote, I'm not wowed by people of position. I'm wowed by people of great ideas. Whatever Epstein is doing in this interview, self-reflection is not part of the plan. what is part of the plan does become clear later. It's clear that Epstein wants the world to see him as mostly harmless, a mind ahead of his time. Maybe he's too eccentric to be bound by the dimensions of human laws, courtesy of Nicole Day Doan.

27:10Steve Bannon asks Epstein, what are you, a class three sexual predator? Tier one. Tier one is the highest and the worst. No, no, no, I am the lowest. I'm the lowest. Jeffrey Epstein is wrong or he's lying. I opt for the latter. New York's Sex Offender Registration Act classifies tier one as the lowest risk, which is technically what he says. But Epstein was classified as level three sex offender in the state of New York, which is the highest, most dangerous tier. In fact, something totally bizarre happened. A Manhattan prosecutor asked the judge to bump Epstein down from tier three to tier one because his crimes were committed all the way in Florida.

27:50This is ADA Jennifer Gaffney, by the way, who was the deputy chief of sex crimes in the Manhattan DA's office. Even the judge was confused. The judge was alarmed, flabbergasted. Did the prosecutor suffer a major brain injury on the way to work? They state in open court, the judge does. I have never seen the prosecutor's office do anything like this. Yeah, I have done so many cases, much less troubling than this one, where prosecutors would never make a downward argument like this. I don't think you did much of an investigation here. I'm quite frankly shocked. That is so sus. That's fucking crazy.

28:27Exactly. The judge denied the request, and Jeffrey Epstein remained a tier three offender in the state of New York, which is neither a tier one offender, nor is it the lowest risk offender. But Steve Bannon is not a fact checker. He lets Epstein right off into the sunset, trying to present himself as a mostly harmless child sex trafficker. Epstein says that while former world leaders like Bill Clinton have long biographies, he just thinks of himself as Jeffrey Epstein. Just a good kid. There's also just some random bizarre moments from the interview, if you will. Bannon asks him if he considers himself a stoic, to which he responds, no, I consider myself a hermit.

29:08Stoics are not very happy. At one point, his phone rings and the producers tell him to turn the sound off and then flip the phone face down. Steve Bannon comments, yeah, because who knows what the fuck comes up on that phone. Then they're later talking about how funny something is. And Steve Bannon says, is there anything funnier than that? It's black humor. I think he means dark humor, but he's Steve Bannon. So I don't know. I hate him. Whatever. I don't think that he thinks much. But Epstein comments, I don't make any black comments. That's right. You're too wrapped up in the Me Too movement.

29:38and then kind of unprompted Jeffrey Epstein hits everyone with a you know there's this argument that I reject that black people are less intelligent than white people and it's not true we know for example that if I was in a forest and I had to run from the lion or figure out a way not to be eaten and my competition is a local African I'm the one who's getting eaten because they have the intelligence to deal with their local environment so it's just different it's not better it's not worse but there's many differences amongst different types of people and people have different intelligences and they excel in some intelligences usually and less so in others which is a very roundabout way to be racist he says that kids also shouldn't necessarily be taught how to write because writing forces linear and narrow patterns of thinking you have to write in a certain form in a certain way in a certain linear pattern is what he says which maybe i guess explains his psychosis inducing grammar in his emails.

30:34Steve Bannon says to Epstein that there is something deeply fucked up with you. And netizens have commented on this interview that Steve Bannon somehow manages to be the most annoying person in the room, where the only other person in the room is Jeffrey fucking Epstein. Other comments read, plot twist, this video is recorded this week and not before he dies. Another one is commenting, had this playing in the background while I was working and I'm pretty sure now I have brain damage. But Steve Bannon, he continues. He asks Jeffrey Epstein, let's go back to human life. Where do you think? Like, when does human life start?

31:08So you see, this is the question. You're asking me to measure something. Again, it cannot be measured. Steve Bannon is like, you just hate making commitments. That's why I'm not married. I'm peeling this onion back a layer at a time. All your bullshit and happy targets can't be measured, can't be measured this. It's like, you know, it's a commitment. You don't like to make a commitment. When you answer a question, as they say in golf, commit to the shot. I don't know what it means to be unmeasured. Epstein talks about how Schrodinger was trying to figure out the difference between things that are alive and things that are dead.

31:38He says, the answer is no. The things that are alive in my world are miracles, not magic. Magic, you know, has a bad connotation trying to hide things. You don't believe in the spirit or the soul. That's what animates people is your spirit or your soul. No. Have you seen someone die? When they die, their spirit leaves. Their soul leaves, No question. There's no question to you about that. No question. Because people would normally think that you are soulless. Thank you. Describe to me what you mean by that. Like, what do you mean by soul? What do you mean by soul different than the physical analog body that you're seeing on film right now?

32:12It's difficult to describe in words. I mean, I'm not a poet. Poems get a little closer to what it really means. But even the concept of what is life becomes complicated when you deal with plants and seeds. Is a seed alive? I don't know. Certain people would say, know it's dead. When you're a banana, one of my favorite examples is the banana that's sitting on your countertop in your kitchen today. Is it alive or is it dead? But your banana is alive. That banana is breathing. It's on your, you know, you say it's not possible. It's impossible. Jeffrey, is the banana conscious? These are words. So everyone's trying to fit a complicated concept into a very small box called conscious or alive.

32:48These don't fit in that way. So if you put your banana in a bag and put another fruit in with it, the fruit ripens faster because the banana banana breathes with it. We don't understand most of those things. What do you think human life is? It's a miracle. It's a miracle. When I say a miracle, I can't explain it and I make no attempt to explain it at the moment. We don't know how to think about it. He also reflects on how little science knows about romance. He says, quote, I don't know why I'm attracted to somebody. I don't know. People are attracted to each other and some, everyone has the same feeling.

33:21They've been seeing someone walk in the room and they say oh that person gives me a creepy feeling he's talking that yeah science has tried to describe you know science doesn't really describe what a creepy feeling means they just know it's a creepy feeling he also rambles about how women have intuitive sense quote they have feelings and they're able to deal with in the realm of things that men especially men like myself find it unexplainable women have intuition men see things a bit differently. Men want to measure everything. He literally just did not want to measure fucking anything. Women are not interested in measuring.

33:59But the interview ends where it was always going to go. Steve Bannon asks if it's okay. You know, Epstein, a predator, is out here being a philanthropist. Epstein argues that his philanthropy has nothing to do with his character. Just ask a question. Is your money dirty money? No, it's not. So in fact, why is it not dirty money. Because I earned it. My heart. But you earned it. We went back to this before. You earned it advising the worst people in the world, right, that do enormous bad things, and just to make more money. You have to. Ethics is always a complicated subject. But I can tell you that with the money I gave to help try to eradicate polio in Pakistan and India, instead of asking me whether that money should be given to these children for vaccines, I think you might want to ask their mothers who received the vaccine, who know their child now won't get polio, and ask them if Epstein should have helped these people with their money.

35:08Steve Bannon asks if, okay, yeah, let's say people knew that the money for free vaccines was coming from a sexual predator. What percentage does Epstein think that they would still want the money? I would say everyone said I want the money for my children. Did they know where the money came from? I think if you told them the devil himself said I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life. Do you think you're the devil himself? No, but I do have a good mirror. It's a serious question. I'm sorry. Do you think you're the devil himself? I don't know. Why would you say that? Steve Bannon, almost in a way to not anger Epstein, explains that the devil is brilliant.

35:46Quote, have you read Milton's Paradise Lost? Satan was the number one archangel. He led the rebellion because he couldn't be the top guy. I'd rather reign in hell than serve in heaven. Epstein just stares at him in response, no, the devil scares me. The devil scares me. and then he says i saw that in a movie once called american dharma i don't remember who said it american dharma is a documentary about steve bannon and steve bannon loves milton's paradise lost and that's why there's a lot of quotes from that book in american dharma but the fact that epstein is quoting bannon's own favorite quote back to him stating he saw it in a documentary about bannon but claiming he doesn't remember where he heard it and doesn't mention that this documentary is about Bannon, it's very strange.

36:35Some people have taken it as almost like a threat to Bannon. Or is he acting coy or what's happening? But still, the biggest lingering question is, if Epstein is scared of the devil, then who the hell could be the devil? It's announced early into Nancy Guthrie's disappearance that the authorities are going to use a signal sniffer to see if they can find her. Signal sniffers are, it's something created by a man named David Kennedy, it can pick up very, very, very low Bluetooth signals. So you attach it to a drone, you send it off into the fields. And if you have anything that can have a Bluetooth signal, it can find it, such as a pacemaker inside of Nancy's body would have a low frequency Bluetooth signal.

37:17And with this announcement, Trump gets involved again. I mean, you have to remember, this is like a month leading up to basically the US and Israel starting what I would call a war in Iran. And yet there is a lot of time and energy to comment on this specific news, not on Nancy Guthrie being missing, which Trump has done, but the fact that they're even going to be using a signal sniffer to try and look for her. Trump states that he does not like this public revelation that signal sniffers are going to be used in the Nancy Guthrie case, stating, quote, I didn't like, you know, when they're talking about that they're going after the pacemaker before they even started going after it.

37:49They're coming and reporting it. You know, if in fact, they would do that way, you know, the person would say, well, I'm not going to let that happen, right? So bad things would happen and he's not going to let that happen. Basically, a roundabout way of saying, what's the best way to turn off a pacemaker? I see. But just the president commenting on a case, wouldn't that just draw more attention to it? Trump has been personally getting involved along with the FBI director, Kash Patel, and pretty much every single mainstream media news outlet was reporting on Nancy Guthrie's case. Many experts have stated that this public attention on the case, yes, it keeps it on the headlines, yes, it keeps more people attuned to seeing if they can spot Nancy Guthrie somewhere and if they can spot the suspects in the ring doorbell footage somewhere.

38:32But if this really is a ransom kidnapping case, the public attention can actually end up harming the case in a lot of ways, especially when the president of the United States, the FBI director are getting involved. But there were less eyebrows being raised with Kash Patel's overt involvement in Nancy Guthrie's case. A lot of people think it's very normal for Kash Patel to get involved because he is the director of the FBI. But I would like to say that I disagree because when I was going through Kash Patel's very frequent posting on Twitter and social media platforms, he seems to have a tendency, and this is not like a factual observation, this is an anecdotal thing that I've experienced researching, is that he gets involved in all of the political crimes.

39:17You have people south of the border smuggling and drugs, he's going to be posting about it on X when they catch the criminals, right? Because that's part of the narrative of like, we want all the illegals out. He was heavily posting and involved with, he actually got in quite a bit of trouble between many politicians for being too involved early on in releasing information that was likely inaccurate about the Charlie Kirk shooting that happened. So all of these are heavily political topics. Yeah. Nancy Guthrie is not political, but he's getting heavily involved. So it's very strange. I mean, the timing is odd.

39:57So what would incentivize Kash Patel to get so invested and involved if it's not the Epstein files? I mean, why this case and not any other case? What's happening in that time period? January 22nd, 2026. So this is like a week before Nancy Guthrie goes missing. and it's been gaining traction since. A New York Times expose goes live detailing what the FBI has been like since Kash Patel took over. They were able to interview 45 bureau employees, former and current, and the feeling is, um, this is hell. Hell is here. We're living in hell. That's the feeling of the article, the expose. The expose examines how Kash Patel was a former public defender who never worked for the FBI a day in his life and actually was quite the conspiracy theorist evidenced by his many, many, way too many, far too many appearances on podcast.

40:44Kash Patel said that he wants to shut down the bureau headquarters and reopen it as a museum of the deep state. That's what he stated before he became the director. He didn't do that, but he does indeed go get rid of the bureau's top six executives, likely due to their connections and work prosecuting Trump. Interesting. The sentiment being is, if you were assigned to the January 6th investigation, because you don't get to pick cases in the bureau, These are agents that get assigned a case. A lot of agents said the sentiment inside the bureau was that once Kash Patel took over, if you even touch the January 6th case, you might get fired just because you worked on that case.

41:23There were a lot of just bozo moments exposed in the article. One field office leader stated that they were shocked by Kash Patel's brain, stating, quote, Patel had his first director's call with the heads of all the field offices. He had no agenda, no organized thoughts, no strategy or leadership philosophy or priorities to share. I specifically remember him stating at one point, I don't read, I don't read. He explained he doesn't read briefing materials. He apparently doesn't do calls either. So one agent states that typically there is a weekly meeting with all the leaders of the field offices on Wednesdays with the director of the FBI, but he stopped doing that.

42:00So things just kept getting dropped and missed and because everyone's supposed to have their own individual calls with the director, but like that's a lot of call things are not good and this is an opinion of course but i think a driscoll sweetest batch blueberry has a stronger work ethic than cash patel agents remember how he had to go to the five eyes conference which is the intelligence alliance between the us uk canada australia and new zealand and quote before the conference his staff says he's unhappy because he doesn't like meetings in office settings. What he wants is social events. He wants premier soccer games.

42:36He wants to go jet skiing. He'd like a helicopter tour. Everyone who'd heard about this was like, hold on, is he really going to ask MI5, the director of MI5, to go jet skiing instead of going to a meeting? This is a job, guys. His staff only cared about three things, what his meals were, when his workouts would be, and what his entertainment would be. Who exactly is saying this? One of a former employee? or current what is happening yeah also side note for someone who has dedicated teams to meals and workouts he does not have a physique that reflects that much but i digress okay they continue the biggest plan is how he's gonna get his girlfriend in in there so she can go to the windsor castle he's got his assistant just like a true executive concierge and when she's not getting the food or the workout she wants she'll just start screaming at people make it happen the girlfriend no the assistant and but he wants his girlfriend to go everywhere which that was a whole thing so he cash patel is constantly under fire for using the fbi jet and taxpayer dollar to go fly to his girlfriend's concert she's like a country singer that nobody listens to i mean some people listen to her nobody listens to her okay he would fly and then they would fly from one city to another back to her home in nashville and apparently the fbi office in nashville where she lives is just like private security for her these days right right right they can't even get any work done wow it's the allegation is the sentiment how long has he been in this position i think like it's been a year a year and a half oh okay yeah and then apparently during the five eyes conference they all go to the castle and they take a picture with the king fantastic loving life great now some of the members of these intelligence agencies overseas they are not public figures it's It's not like the director of the FBI.

44:25They're like very secret figures. They're in non-disclosed positions. You can't even file paperwork to see what position they're in. That's the intention. Cash Patel, though, wants to post this picture on social media, apparently, according to this expose. They're all like, hey, so what kitchen cooking herb are you smoking over there? You cannot post this fucking picture. But he apparently goes back and forth, allegedly begging these people, these undisclosed intelligence agency running commands. Is it like a group photo? Yes, that he wants to post this picture onto social media. Because he was taking a picture with the king.

44:59Yeah. Did he post it? No. Wow. Dan Bongino is the deputy director. Well, former, not anymore. Which usually, so a lot of people are saying that with the deputy director of the FBI, it has been longstanding tradition to choose a career agent. so the FBI director is typically well connected to politicians because that's how they get appointed but the deputy director this is the second hand in charge they've been in the bureau for probably their whole career right because that's what you need you need someone who knows every rank file how things work how things have been done not because they're so stuck in tradition but like they know the ins and outs of the bureau they choose instead Dan Bongino who is a right wing podcaster and a former Secret Service agent.

45:46He doesn't even like the Bureau. He called it thugs for the Democrat Party. One agent states that there was real concern in the Bureau stating, quote, we were going to have two people who it would not be an exaggeration to say there were conspiracy theorists with very little experience in federal law enforcement. Wow. I will say the levels in government a male podcaster can get in this administration needs to be studied and then needs to be just like quickly stopped. One of the most notable things that he does once he's assigned though is Dan Bongino tries to create a new physical fitness test that is not backed by evidence or research.

46:22So he's like, I need all the bureau agents to be fucking fit. He wanted to have equality for men and women in the sense that they would have to do the exact same number of pull-ups, which means a large number of probably more competent. Okay, sorry. Very competent female female agents and recruits would be lost valuable personnel would be lost because they can't do as many pull-ups as their male counterparts okay so one agent stated to Bongino and apparently allegedly Dan Bongino tells them you can have the best female agent take down the biggest case in our history but if on one ring door camera video she's out of shape or overweight that's going to be the story the agent comments he was worried about whether or not they'd look good on doorbell camera.

47:05He said it's the way these times are. I think that's the way you are. I don't think anyone else would have thought that. He has since stepped down as the FBI deputy director to go back to his podcast. He's also taken a role in the whole Epstein files, which both of them, before they held positions in the FBI, they kind of hinted on podcasts that they did not believe that Epstein self-exited. But Kash Patel, once he becomes the director, he states like, no, it was a self-exit. it was a self exit it's been reported by agents to the expose that there's too much co-mingling with dhs the department of homeland security fuck ice formerly run by christine gnome she has since been fired promoted we don't know like she has a new whole new position that was created just for her because the speculation by a lot of people is that if she were straight up fired she would start singing like a little canary so there's a whole new position i don't know what that position does, but one agent says they also had to juggle Kristi Noem, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, who wanted to ride in our tactical vehicle to do her TV stuff.

48:10That makes all the operators uneasy and it makes them less safe. A lot of agents also said that the connection between the FBI and DHS was just not good. They say, quote, because FBI agents are posting up with Homeland Security, citizens think we're part of ICE, fuck ICE, which disrupts other investigations. It used to be that you could sit in front of a house Watching another house And a lot of the time people were okay with that They might help you Now they're scared because they think you're ice Because nobody's really scared of the FBI You know I would say I feel like I would be less scared To help an FBI agent Than even police officers Is the sentiment that I'm trying to say I don't know if there's factual I don't know if there's any fact to it But because there's a lot of tension between citizens And police officers citizens typically have a little more leeway with federal agents because they're not around a lot yeah i get it so the fbi agents say fuck ice right yeah exactly that's exactly yeah which side note about ice they're stalking reddit threads okay this is like a side note ken klippenstein who did um he was the one that released luigi mangioni's note manifesto whatever they wanted to call it right but he is like this incredible journalist but he released an expose about homeland security field agents monitoring conversations on reddit there was an internal intelligence bulletin that ken got his hands on where they're talking about reddit user budget chicken 2425 who was posting about federal overreach on reddit and wanted to gather a protest outside the border patrol facility nearby in texas where he lives this is not a big call for a rally yeah this is not a big call for a revolution the post just innocently reads in light of today's events, I'm rallying people to support our rights and freedom, not just for ourselves, but for our neighbors, family, and community.

49:58We need volunteers to be witnesses and spread awareness. The more we are silent, the faster it'll come to us. The Department of Homeland Security Bulletin reads, the post generated some engagement on the platform, including supporting comments, logistical concerns, and opposition, underscoring both local sensitivity to perceived immigration enforcement activity and the symbolic value of federal facilities as protest sites. at the time of this assessment there's no specific reporting indicating plans for violence against DHS personnel or facilities in connection with call to this protest but the more alarming part is the bulletin goes on and states they they did like a digital footprint check of budget chicken 2425 listing that their favorite subreddits are r slash texas r slash movies r slash stephen king and fuck I'm old.

50:45And even that gets specific stating in the fuck I'm old subreddit, he likes to reminisce about classic television productions like UBU productions and Gracie Films. On r slash Stephen Keem, he engages mostly with community posts about book collections. So they're stalking this online user. Who is not even, like it's shocking because they're not posting. I mean, do they monitor rapists like this online or child offenders who get released that just quote slip through the cracks? I didn't think so. So why are you? It's so bizarre. It's so scary. Also, they're buying warehouses. Look into it. Look into it.

51:21DHS went through a whole buying spree where they secretly leased up a bunch of wild warehouses. There's one, I believe, in Georgia that they're trying to house like 10 ,000 detainees. So look up your local states, look up your local areas and see if there's like a warehouse that DHS has been secretly looking into buying or has already purchased. a lot of contracts were signed secretly and they were doing this without much attention for the longest time all near major cities a lot of them are in very alarming spots like next to preschools church gatherings like community centers where people will go to be safe

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54:37But anyway, back to the FBI. A lot of agents were saying they don't really do any crime solving, crime fighting anymore or national security anymore. And they said that Pam Bondi, because you remember Pam Bondi and Kash Patel have some shit going on. So Kash Patel is the FBI director. Pam Bondi is the Attorney General of the United States. She accuses the New York field office of holding back documents in the Epstein case. So like everyone's just trying to save their ass. Pam Bondi was like, I got the Epstein files on my desk. And then the administration was like, there's no files. Kash Patel was like, what files?

55:13What are we talking about? Pam Bondi is like, you know, you guys are holding files. So it became this whole point your finger. They have beef with each other. Cash Patel then diverts a ton of agents to work on redactions for files. One agent says, a member of the redaction team asked me because I'm a superior, can I not work on this anymore? They had a team call and Patel jumped on the call and yelled at everyone telling them to work faster that he'd fire everyone who worked on the redactions if he didn't have it when he wanted it. And they were allegedly told to flag references to Trump and other well-known figures as well as redacting information about victims, which is the only thing that we're supposed to do.

55:53Right. So don't be confused that this was hard work for American people's rights to know who amongst the rich and powerful are criminals, which at this point, if we are a casino, you would make a killing just assuming everyone is first a bad person, then giving them the benefit of the doubt. The article reports that more than 20 % of the FBI's workforce has been assigned to immigration enforcement, which impacts the amount of personnel that can investigate other things like public corruption, white collar crime, kidnappings. Wow. One agent stated, I remember praying that we didn't have a terrorist attack, mass shooting or a cyber attack slipped through the cracks because my agents who were highly trained to protect against such threats were assigned to immigration enforcement.

56:34Another agent says, I did not go to law school. I did not go to Quantico and work counterterrorism operations overseas to doing traffic control for arrest a brown person day. Wow. So the Bureau is known for using polygraphs to get security clearance where they ask you questions and, you know, they ask you questions that you would imagine that they ask you. But now they said that the Bureau is doing this is an allegation that if you if there is a leak, because there's a lot of leaks in this administration in all departments, even I think recently there was a pentagon leak with how many casualties there were in the iran situation recently um but this leak if there's leaks in the fbi allegedly cash patel will have employees polygraphed and they will be asked if they said anything negative about cash patel which feels like very emotional and sensitive i mean it's definitely morally and ethically bankrupt if this is occurring but could you imagine a female director doing something like that the scathing adjectives she would be called she would be framed as a soft whiny baby bitch who wants everyone to love and worship her because she's probably a whore but instead cash but how can you be such a soft sensitive little yeah person unbelievable one agent says quote they were polygraphing their own senior leadership team because they were so mad about media leaks then soon after the charlie kirk shooting cash patel flies to utah and the first thing he wants is a raid jacket, FBI raid jacket.

58:01They don't have one in his size, which side note, leadership doesn't wear raid jackets. Okay, so FBI, when they do raids, they wear FBI on their back. But once you're in a leadership position, you wear a suit. You don't wear a raid jacket. But allegedly Trump told Patel he wants to see the raid jackets everywhere because he wants the feds to take the credit for a lot of things. Is the allegation in the expose okay? I don't know, I don't know. I'm not in these rooms. I don't know any of these conversations. but they don't have a size medium. So in this very crucial moment of, I don't know, solving a crime, whatever, you know, he has the SWAT team take off their patch, like the SWAT patch, so that he can wear just the FBI letters to the press conference, which is just odd.

58:44And then here's this long quote after he gets there, quote, whenever there's a critical incident, one of the first things that happens is a conference call with everybody, all the executives, most of the field offices dial in. The director rarely speaks. Because someone with situational awareness is leading the call because there's an emergency. You've got to be there. Like you have to have, you know what's going on. They'll say, here's what happened. Here's what we know. Here's what we need. But we get on and it's just Cash berating the special agent in charge of Salt Lake. He's super emotional.

59:15Which side note, emotional in a leadership position such as being the director of the FBI is never good. I don't think they use the word emotional as a way to display his humanity. They continue. Then it turns surreal. Cash Patel and Dan Bongino start talking about their Twitter strategy. And Cash is like, I'm going to tweet this. Salt Lake, you tweet that. Dan, you come in with this. And then I'll come back with this. They're literally scripting out social media, not talking about how we're going to respond or resources or the situation. He's screaming that he wants to put stuff out, but nothing's been vetted yet.

59:48It's not even accurate. Everyone on the call is just like, this guy is completely out of control. on another call he said when a crisis happens the only thing you need to do is call me the most important thing in any crisis is controlling the narrative i was like no no no we actually have to do some work here like we're gonna have to investigate wow the most alarming message coming from the fbi insiders is that they feel the way that cash patel is running the bureau is it's just a weapon of the white house and the diverting of resources is leaving the country vulnerable to attack, which we now know in this situation, which call it the conflict, call it the war in Iran.

1:00:29That's not good. I will say these are all of the allegations and quotes that you can find on the New York Times expose. However, the FBI spokesperson Ben Williamson had said about this expose, this story is regurgitation of fake narratives, conjecture and speculation from anonymous sources who are disconnected from reality. They can whine and peddle falsehoods all they want, but it won't change the fact that the FBI under this administration worked with partners at every level and delivered a historic 2025. A White House spokesperson states, President Trump and FBI Director Kash Patel are restoring integrity to the FBI by returning its focus to fighting crime and letting good cops be cops.

1:01:06So I don't know. You take the expose as you will. Maybe you hate the New York Times. But I will say Kash Patel is a very odd individual in my opinion because he also has a children's book, a real children's book that you can purchase where he's a wizard and he saves King Donald Trump from the evil, disgusting, filthy DOJ. The book is called The Plot Against the King and it's marketed for five-year-olds and up. I also think it's a trilogy, which like, goddamn, okay, I'm still waiting for final installments of trilogies from some of my favorite authors. And here we have this trilogy, but also the second one does not seem to be sold on Amazon anymore.

1:01:42So I don't know if it's a etiology and he just like weirdly named the first one and then the third one and skip number two. I don't know if two is a bad number for him or the second one is just pulled from the shelves. I don't know. I don't know. But that still doesn't answer why is Trump getting involved in all of this? So it seems like Kash Patel has better things that he wants people to pay attention to like the Nancy Guthrie case versus probably this New York Times expose. But what about Trump? Is he just making a comment since he's worked with Savannah Guthrie previously and has had interactions with her?

1:02:15Is that why he wants to be of assistance? I mean, I guess you could say that. Or you could say that some people think that the idea of a disappearance being the only thing that the country wants to talk about could be a really good opportunity to not talk about other things. January 30th, the DOJ releases the single largest drop of Epstein files, like I've noted, including the one, there's a picture of the former Prince Andrew crouched over a redacted female's body who's laying on the ground. Everybody is clothed, but it's not a great picture. February 1st, Nancy Guthrie disappears from her home.

1:02:52February 2nd, Epstein survivors are rightfully enraged and traumatized because the DOJ, who seems to have spent a ton of manpower to redact the names of high-powered businessmen and billionaires from their files, they have left a ton of documents unredacted that clearly show underage victims' names, personal information, and ways that people can find out where they are now. Even more traumatizing, according to the New York Times, nearly 40 unredacted images that show both nude bodies and the faces of the people portrayed were left unredacted for the public. Quote, the people in the photos appear to be young, although it was unclear whether they were minors.

1:03:30Some of the images seemed to show Mr. Epstein's private island, including a beach. Others were taken in bedrooms and other private spaces. While photos of powerful men were mysteriously redacted in some cases for no reason, the lawyers representing the victim state, it's kind of unfeasible to think that the DOJ would make mistakes like this. Quote, DOJ cannot plausibly characterize this as an error, negligence, or bureaucratic failure. The task was straightforward. Take the list of known victims and redact those names everywhere they appear. When DOJ believed it was ready to publish, it needed only to type each victim's name into its own search function.

1:04:03Any resulting hit should have been redacted before publication. Had DOJ done that, the harm would have been avoided. Another attorney states, This whole thing is ridiculous. The DOJ was ordered to release information to the public to be transparent about Epstein and Maxwell's criminal enterprise network. Instead, they released the names of courageous victims who had fought hard for decades to remain anonymous and out of the limelight. whether the disclosures were inadvertent or not, they had one job to do it and they did not do it. But instead, we're talking about Nancy Guthrie. February 3rd, Trump states that he wants to nationalize voting.

1:04:36Fulton County in Georgia stated that they will be suing the FBI. I think just giving thorough context for this would require like 10 business days. But the administration and the FBI raided and seized a bunch of voting ballots from Fulton County in Georgia from the 2020 presidential election. And Trump comes out to state on Dan Bongino's podcast that he thinks that we should nationalize voting in the United States because constitutionally, U.S. elections are governed by the state. He doesn't want that anymore, which is a huge cause for concern. But he, yeah, there's just a lot. Yeah. He's saying it's because the election was stolen, but a lot of people are saying it's much harder to hack 50 systems than hack one system.

1:05:22And during all of this, Trump is interviewed and he says, speaking of Epstein, I will say this. A reporter named Wolf and Epstein conspired. This just came out yesterday in the millions of pages of documents. How crazy this is. Conspired against me in order to fight like hell to make sure I lose the election. That's the only thing that was mentioned about me. Now the Democrats, some really bad stuff. Epstein conspired against me. that takes care of Epstein as far as Trump is concerned. But you got a lot of Democrats out there that are very much involved with Epstein. But I'll be honest with you.

1:05:52You got to get back to running the country too. Which, yeah. When he's asked specifically about some of his very close associates, such as Howard Letnick and Elon Musk being in the files, Trump responds, I have a lot of things I'm doing. I think it's really time for the country to get on something else, really. Now that nothing came about me other than it was a conspiracy against me, literally. by Epstein and other people, but I think it's time now for the country to maybe get onto something else. And then he states that the reporter from CNN needs to smile more. Quote, and this is like in the Oval Office with a whole gaggle of press.

1:06:28She's a young woman I've known for 10 years. I don't think I've ever seen a smile on your face. You know why you're not smiling? Because you know you're not telling the truth and you're a very dishonest organization and you should be very ashamed of yourself. She was asking him about Epstein survivors. So naturally she was not smiling at the time and many netizens feel that it's very odd for Trump to want the world to let go of the Epstein files and move on from it when they just release so much information, damning information against various people. So let's get into the latest drop of the files.

1:06:57I will say that this is not an all encompassing video on the Epstein files because it's literally impossible. The Rotten Mango team is, I mean, we're really lucky to be growing our team, but still at the very end of the day, I think we're pretty super, super, super small team compared to any news network or even other podcast we're a very small team i don't think i think you'd be shocked to see how intimate the core team is and intimate being a nice way of saying small and very well caffeinated i wish i could dedicate everyone to go through files because a lot of people have requested updates on the obscene files and we did our best to get through as much as possible but with all the other cases that people have been requesting to be covered especially the international ones that are less known about we've been trying to work on everything at the same time so this is not going to be like a comprehensive exhaustive overview of everything that's been released but we'll try to keep giving you updates as we go so with that being said the next audio episode is going to be an updated episode on the Epstein case we're going to go through the UK fallout the arrest of Prince Andrew former Prince Andrew all of the resignations in the United States Bill and Hillary Clinton's entire depositions, there is a lot to get through.

1:08:08A lot of statements, a lot of emails, a lot of connections that are being made, other mysterious self-exits that people have been connecting to Epstein. So with that being said, that is it for today's episode, the audio episode. Stay tuned and I will see you in the next one. Bye. There's a difference between liking a house and actually getting it. Redfin is built to close that gap. Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents. So when you find a home you love, you're not a step behind when it's time to make an offer. That means less watching great homes disappear and more zeroing in on the one you'll actually end up calling home.

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