Bergvall's Bombshell & Fixture-List Defiance | Stand-up Aidan Jones on his Spurs Survival Viral Video

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2:03Jack:hello everybody welcome back to rule the roost podcast i'm i'm delighted to welcome to the show for the first time today mr hayden jones how you doing mate good day mate yeah i'm good thanks how are you i'm i'm very good i'm actually i feel like i just said g'day but i also said good because you asked me how am i doing like i'd plan to say g'day and then you asked me a question and i mixed them and that's embarrassing it's all right works do you know i mean it's just this i think i feel less australian and more like a fucking 1800s go like good day sir good squire salutations on this most wonderful day exactly doffing my fucking hat to you what you do is we'll get into this but you know maybe you're just immersed maybe this is just method mate yeah that's it mate a year in the uk maybe i've started to really get it in my skin so i've seen you wearing like the wigs and stuff on instagram so yeah yeah yeah we'll get into so i mean aiden for anyone that isn't aware aiden is a stand-up musical stand-up comedian i first you sort of first came onto my radar at the tail end of last season we forget i was almost getting relegated and I see this I see this sick video going around on Instagram of this stand-up comedian just interrupting his set saying hang on I've just got to check Tottenham's score I mean at the time he was like sort of discordantly banging on a piano shouting nobody respect you yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh and then you announced to the crowd that Tottenham Hotspur has stayed in the Premier League yeah now they fucking respect us don't they and now we're buying all their players yeah exactly players um yeah mate i mean just just tell us a bit about that tell us a bit about i guess the the moment in the set how much of that feeling of fuck you fuck you to everybody was pure unfiltered spurs fan joy seeping through into uh into your moment there yeah so what it was at top secret comedy club in uh in central london and um i so the thing about top secret comedy club that a lot of people don't know is one of the best clubs in the country it's you you know, full multiple shows every day, they book on the day.

4:08So the way their booking works is you just send a message in the morning and go, Hey, I'm free tonight. And you know, I'd love a set. And then they get back to you whether, and you know, they'd probably get like a hundred, 200 messages a day. And, um, so if you happen to be in their kind of rotation at that point, you want a message as much as you can. So that day I was actually at a friend, a bunch of comics. We had a mate of mine lives just off of Highbury Square and we had a picnic in the park and all the fucking goons were out, man. Red shirts everywhere, you know, just bought last week kind of stuff.

4:44And I sent my message and I was just having, I was in a bad mood. I was like this fucking whatever, fuck this. And I got the set, right? And you can't control when your set's on. And I knew the games were going to be on, but the set was on and my stage time was like 540. And I was like, it's going to be pretty close to the end of the game. And then I get to the club and the game's on and we're up one nil. There was an Arsenal fan backstage and he was fucking with me. Like at one point he was like, my God, they equalized. I was like, no, they fucking did not check my phone. I was like, you piece of shit.

5:15And, um, but yeah, as it was getting closer to my set time, I was like, I'm going to be on stage at the end of the game. So I just, and I know they record every set at top secret. So I was like, okay, whatever happens, if we've, if we've gone down or if we've stayed up it's going to be on film and if I just check the score at the end of my set whatever my reaction is I'll just I'll just make sure that I do an outward reaction and that video and I'll post that video online whatever it is um and thank god yeah we did we we won and we stayed up and then the fuck yous were when I mentioned Tottenham there's like you know 200 people in the room and a few people started booing so a couple people started booing and those were the people that I went fuck you fuck you two that's what that was in the crowd because a bunch of people started cheering because they just saw I was excited or they don't know maybe there was some Spurs fans in the crowd but yeah those people who were booing and I was like as if you even can what are you booing about if you're an Arsenal fan why are you even here go fucking you know go to

6:14Jack:Highbury this is it they were showing up on Seven Sisters on the last day of the season just enjoy your success exactly like you're saying the guy backstage even making fun of you it's good it's heartening to know actually that even within a comedy setting so fans still aren't funny you know i would say like yeah what he was saying to you mate i mean it's just i i really i i i really thought we were going last year i actually thought it was i thought it was going to be one of those moments you know like leicester city winning it kind of thing i just kind of thought you know well you know what happened before leicester city won it that's true that's true mate that's true so look you know no europe next year we can we can kind of look ahead i mean let's let's talk a bit about like we will get on to spurs and stuff let's talk a bit about like your show your latest show chopin's nocturn i do just want to say i do want to clarify up front aiden hasn't like come on under the proviso that i talked to him about his show i just want to talk to him about it it's kind of interesting yeah sure man to me so yeah tell us about it yeah so that clip that you would have seen like the end of what I was doing is I play classical piano I grew up playing classical piano and then when I was like 18 I auditioned for the conservatory which is like the kind of university level like program and I didn't get in I didn't learn one of the pieces that I was supposed to learn I was supposed to learn a piece of Bach I didn't like Bach I didn't learn it I was just like a kind of arrogant kid and I thought I should just get in anyway and then when I didn't get in, the joke I make on stage, I say I drifted away from the piano and started focusing more on MDMA and kind of did that, you know, for a few years, started stand up, did stand up for 10 years.

7:54And then in the pandemic, couldn't do stand up anymore. And I came back to the piano and I started learning and Chopin's Nocturne in E flat major was the first piece that I learned. And I loved it. And so I kind of used my 10 years of stand up, which is like, you know, how to relate to people from all walks of life and make, you know, stupid jokes about stuff. And I use that to explain the music from a classical music perspective for people who don't know anything about classical music. So I make jokes about how diminished chord is like a drunk guy on the train, you know, or like major chords and minor chords.

8:26It's like never meeting your dad, like whatever, stupid shit like that. Lead people through the piece of music. And then at the end of the one hour show, I play the whole piece for everyone now that we kind of understand all this stuff and have had some laughs and whatever i like this man i'm liking the sort of

8:41Jack:the the emotional style applying these sort of like emotional vibes these life vibes into i don't know something that people can just because i think classical music is one of those things that everybody's got an appreciation for it on a certain level but it's often kind of it's is it safe to say it's kind of sometimes seen as like the preserve of like the elites isn't it dude 100 it's something that shouldn't be accessible to people but as you're saying is something that we should all be able to relate to on a certain level one of the jokes i have in the show is i say classical music is like very much a closed community you can't get in like if you go to a classical music concert and you clap at the wrong time you're fucked man people the monocles are coming off they're fucking throwing them at you powdered wigs thrown yeah and uh and it is very much like that and i think people not not necessarily it's not so much people actively gatekeeping but just that aura that it has means that your regular kind of person and i mean to tie it into the pod like people who go to football football fans you know which is more of just like a kind of working class thing i'm not gonna think of classical music as something that they can have access to and so they're not even gonna bother and um when it comes to that i'm like, do you know what, like back in the day, like, I mean, talk about Bach, Johann Sebastian Bach, he spent his whole career in the 1700s as a church musician.

10:01And in those churches, you would have had people coming in, like, you know, who were drinking or people who had like been in the fields all day, smelling like shit, bringing their animals into church, because like, that was the meeting place, you know? And that's where this music comes from. And then even in the 19th century, people in the theaters watching these like operas and stuff, shouting out like big laughs you know it wasn't a kind of stuffy environment which is what it's become now but that's not where this music necessarily comes from and there's so much emotion in it and there's so much like life you can learn about yourself and about life from this music and the people who made it so that's kind of what I try to bring to people in this show.

10:41Jack:How'd you done like many performances as a classical musician? Nah that was also part of the show is I um I I was just loving playing like I'm a good pianist, but I'm not anywhere near the level where I would be putting on a show. Like I didn't go to the conservatoire, you know, and I wanted to play piano for people, but I also know that if no one's coming to the Aidan Jones piano recital, do you know what I mean? Like, why would you? There's a bunch of other better pianists out there. But what I have that those pianists don't have is the 10 years of experience or 15 years now of experience of a stand-up comedian looking people in the eyes and relating to them on their level and being able to explain to them why they should care about this music which is something that you don't get when you go to the Barbican or Royal Albert Hall or whatever yeah yeah yeah of course of course I mean like let's let's talk about obviously we've sort of we've spoken about you being an Aussie at the top I think anybody can guess that you are um yeah right when did you move over to London did you become a Spurs fan when you came to the UK?

11:45Jack:I mean, I sort of said to you before we started recording, seems like a bit of a stupid question because Spurs are pretty massive in Australia as well, aren't they? Right? Yeah. Yeah. And especially from the last few years, but I can say with hand on heart that I wasn't just an Ange glory hunter. Um, even though, I mean, there wasn't that much glory to be hunted, but I, uh, I did live in the UK for two years, 10 years ago. I first moved over 2014 so I was 23 and I you know did was on the stand-up circuit in London for a couple years and around the country and a part of doing especially when you start out like I was only two three years into stand-up when I moved over here you do a lot of gigs in random towns often for no money and the promoter will just go all right they'll book one comic on the lineup who has a car and that will drive everyone from London and so you don't know the person you just you're told go to you know Hammersmith a fucking um tube station or whatever and meet this person here's their number and so one of those gigs the guy in the car was a fellow comic David Alfie Ward I don't know if you've heard of him um but he is a Spurs fan and I was living in Dalston at the time in North London and my housemate I wrote a show about this guy he was a dick he was a con man he stole money off people but he was the only person who I knew who was a football fan he was an Arsenal fan so I get in the car with Dave and we get chatting and we're getting along you know we never met but we're like the same age and we both like football and we're both you know similar interests and stuff and he goes you got a team over here and I was like oh you know Matt I said like the one guy I know supports Arsenal so like you know I was thinking maybe but like I don't know and he goes look man um you i'm gonna stop this car and you can get out or you can support tottenham is that a bit of you like is he like hang on is this one of those things where he's being serious he basically put the hard word on me and it was the gig was in swindon so it was two hours each way so we spent you know like six seven hours together that day and we became like pretty fast friends and so by the end of the trip i was like all right do you know what sure tottenham let's go and then that was around the time that that was that would have been like end of the 2014-15 season so then coming into the 2015 season I remember we beat City 3-1 at home that game and it was the start of that poch team and I just bought in man I was like that 2015 season you know 2015-16 um so exciting going close with Leicester all of that by the end of the season I was like I'm all in and so when I by the time I went back to Australia at the end of 2016 I started going to like the Imperial, this pub in Melbourne.

14:25That's like the shout out to all the Osper's family at the Imperial, man. There's like such a great community of people there. The games are on at stupid o 'clock, but there's always people down there that you can watch the games with like English expats or Australians who have taken up the team. And that kind of gave me a bit of a, I guess, what's the word? Like a way to support the club from afar and a community, which is like the whole reason you support a club, right?

14:49Jack:I mean, it's proper dedication because I'm finding even just through this World Cup, it's like, oh, blimey. An 11 p.m. kickoff. This is just, this is not on. I'm supposed to have my nice three o 'clock in the afternoon kickoffs, you know. Man, 11 p.m. in Australia, if you get an 11 p.m. Saturday night, which is like the early kickoff on Sunday, everyone's down at the MP, man. Those are good games. If you get a good fixture for the late Saturday night kickoffs, it's a fucking party, man. You might get, you know, 100, 200 people down there for some, just because it's a good game, like Spurs versus Burnley.

15:25Jack:It's a good time. Glory days. Glory days. I actually, I've got a decent enough. I met David Alfie Ward once, actually, in 2019 in Amsterdam. Oh, yeah. Yes, Spurs had just won. Yes. And I was wandering through Dam Square, just delirious. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely delirious. and then I saw I just I was like you're David Alfie Waters he was like walking through this crowd with like a massive he had like a big carrier bag full of beers and he was just like all right just gave me a beer and walked off I was like fucking yeah man that's that's cool so funny man he's I mean we're very close to this day he's you know one of my best mates um and he's told me a lot about that Amsterdam trip because I went to Madrid after we got in I was back in Australia, but I was coming to the UK and like, you know, doing a big tour around Europe and stuff that summer anyway.

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17:21Jack:Oh, and he's gone for a can of Pepsi too. What a finish. There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Matchdays deserve Pepsi. I actually, I feel like I owe it to Dave to tell this story because he was on the fighting cock and told this story for me before I'd ever been on. So now I'll come on Rule the Roost and I'll tell this story for him. There was one North London derby. Do you know, I think it might have been when Harry Kane scored that goal and tore off his face mask. Yeah. Yeah. I was in the bricklayers. I was just like, oh man. Dave was in the stadium and we met up afterwards. Actually, no.

18:01sorry it wasn't it was we drew with Liverpool that season and we had had a booth at a pub in town some of uh Dave's mates from back in Walthamstow and then we got on the tube on the way home and there were some Arsenal fans on the tube and they started giving it a bit and um Dave used to box Dave's like of gypsy heritage you know like like Irish traveler his dad used to take him to fucking fight his cousins when he was like 11 years old do you know what I mean so he'd like he knows how to fight yeah i started giving it to and they said they called it i didn't choose this life it chose me kind of thing right yeah and they called him a fat yid cunt um which we maintain is only two-thirds true and um because he's not jewish but um but we're on the tube and these guys start giving it all this and you know calling him fat or whatever and then one of them stepped forward to and he like swung at dan you know they were giving it back or whatever and he swung at dave and dave just dipped away from it and swung back and caught the guy above the eye and opened up his eye and he's like bleeding down the side of his face meanwhile i scared for my life because i'm on a working holiday visa i was like if i get arrested they've got to take away my visa and deport me back to australia so i just like walked down the other end of the carriage

19:23but um yeah man now it kind of ended there and you know whatever they got off the they got off the train and to be honest that's like i wouldn't be doing that kind of stuff now but 10 years ago i was just like this is crazy man there's nothing like that in australia you know in terms of like the passion i guess it's fucking youthful stupidity and young dudes are just looking for a reason to fight but there was something about that when i was young i was like this is exciting you know

19:47Jack:Yeah, of course, you kind of get drawn to it a bit because it's a mix of adrenaline, testosterone. It's all over the shop, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Kind of just, yeah, I don't know. The spoils of youth, the spoils of youth and all that. How have you been finding the World Cup, mate? I know obviously you didn't go to plan against the States the other day. Man, I'm still kind of hopeful that we'll do Paraguay over and qualify in second place. That's not a Turkey game. My God. I mean, that was like unbelievable. I was in Mallorca with my girlfriend for her birthday. We got a villa with a couple of her friends and the game, so it was at 6am kickoff over there.

20:28It was one hour ahead, which was nice. And yeah, I got up, watched the first half, the goal. I was like by myself running silently to not wake anyone up, running around the yard. And then the second goal, it was, I don't know if you watched the game, but it was like in the second half, that were really getting on top of us. And I was feeling like this is going to be a long 20 minutes at the end of the game. So I got back in bed and had my headphone in, but I was like, I'm just going to lie here. And like, if they score, I'll just roll over and try and go back to sleep, you know? And then we scored and I had to grab all of my stuff and silently run out of the room downstairs and like, yeah, running with my laptop in my hands, screaming again.

21:10Yeah. Incredible dude. I mean, and that was my girlfriend's birthday that day. so then like we had all this amazing stuff planned and all day in the car I'm like watching videos of back in yeah yeah yeah you know I had a couple teary moments it was incredible of course man

21:25Jack:no it's it's what I mean still what is the kind of perception towards football for the most part is it still kind of derided a bit but because I know it's sort of it's caught up a lot in the sort of the match what we would say at least from Britain anyway you look at kind of Aussie Australia you look at US as well really it's quite jock cultures do you know what I mean it's all very like I play Aussie rules I don't play soccer it's for girls all that type of thing right is it still is that or is that an outdated well no when I was growing up it was definitely that like I played soccer football whatever um in school and you know at club level and like the club that I played for uh WC Bukala was a Greek club so it's all Greeks and that's like a lot of what football is in Australia.

22:10It's like very much an immigrant sport. And like, you know, in Adelaide where I grew up, there was the Greek club, there's the Italian club, the Croatian club, the English club, like that's, you know what I mean? Um, and then at school level, we shared a change room with the AFL guys and yeah, they used to call us, you know, all kinds of names and stuff. And we were like on the second tier down and like the school that I went to wasn't even really a sports school but the the principal like loved footy so the footy oval was like pride of place right at the front of the school and like there was a footy program where like guys would be walking around bouncing footballs you know like because they're in the footy program meanwhile soccer we had a really good team we're in the top i think we finished second in my final year in the top like school league in adelaide but we were like at the back of the school you know no one ever really made a big song and dance about our team um so like to be a football fan in australia to have that experience growing up, inevitably, like you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder because you're like, we're doing all this stuff.

23:11We've put, you know, all this work in or whatever. And we don't really get the kind of attention that you would think that it deserves. Um, and then also to follow football, like I said, getting up late at nights or whatever. Yeah. But it breeds a very close community, you know, and people are very proud. And like that, the reason that I was getting so emotional about those goals against Turkey is not only do we get disrespected in australia we get disrespected outside australia and that fucking captain of turkey saying that shit oh we're gonna dominate we're gonna dominate all the american tv hosts going like who's here and kunda it feeds into that that like angst that we have so scoring those goals and beating turkey it's like fuck you man it's like being a spurs fan yeah yeah yeah yeah i i do i kind of get because

23:58Jack:you know i've i've towards the i i loved ang and i respected him for like obviously for what he did You know, he's given me one of the greatest memories of my life as being a Spurs fan, lifting a silver trophy. But, you know, I talk about every single football match on here and towards the end of his time, I would moan and I would say, look, you know, I don't know if he's the right guy for the job. And I would get a lot of pelters for that from Aussies. But I kind of like, I mean, I even got Vince Regari cut me off on the, I think I said something. Look, I shitpost a bit on Twitter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:31Jack:As you have to, mate. If you're in the football media space, there's one way to get clicks and attention, and that's by talking shit. So Vince had found something I said about Andrew, which was less than complimentary, just like, you know, I can't even remember what it was that I said, but it was something that was just, you know, inflammatory. And so Spurs win the Europa League, and straightaway Vince Regal, he's got it there. Oh, man, he had all the receipts. I remember that. I remember. So I was like, fuck, man. I just want to enjoy this moment. I want to be a fucking hypocrite. I want to enjoy Spurs winning.

25:04Jack:I want to say, yeah, Ange said he was going to win a trophy and he did. But, you know, I got held to account. Fair enough. But I do get, I do kind of get it like, like you're saying there because it's, you go out, you take the Australian team outside of Australia and I was like, what are these all going to do? And like you say, even back home, everybody's like, nobody really cares. Like, yeah, or at least they actively give you shit for it. And I remember like, actually funnily enough, talking about Vince Raghari, reading his Ange ball book when, you know, Ange is basically saying, all throughout his career, you know, he had people sort of take the piss out of him, belittle him.

25:37Jack:So, you know, it's great that he got his moment in. He got his fuck you moment. He won the trophy with Spurs, the team that doesn't win trophies. Do you know what, though, as well? I would say, like, when you say you had to cover all those games, that I didn't have, sorry, I had the luxury of not having to watch all of those games. Like, I watched a fair few of the season games, you know, like that for i remember i don't know why it sticks out the leicester one i think in january when we lost at leicester or maybe leicester at home but there were so many games like this year where you're just like this has to be the one to turn it around this will be the one and then it just wasn't you know and um but i eventually had the had the luxury of being able to kind of tune out a bit and just tune into the europa league game and like see the results from the league coming through and go oh i know that we weren't going down whereas you you know having to talk about it every week and the people who go to the games every week is that like you have to sit through it and live through it so it's probably going to be a bit more visceral so then when it comes to the time when we're lifting the trophy i can go wasn't that a great season and you're like no man i have it was like goes out the window as soon as you win something you're like whatever fuck it you know like guys are hero we've done it that they'd sacked him man i mean that was i mean what does he care about me but i did say when levy sacked him i was like i will never forgive you daniel levy for this as if he gives a fuck about what i think but i'd be interested to know if this because it feels to me anyway it feels to me just saying from the top it feels like the ownership are starting to do things a little bit differently now look they don't have much credit at the bank yet yeah yeah you know it just feels a bit different did you see that moment there sort of the it was a wasn't really a mask slip it was more just a confirmation of everything that we thought about Daniel Levy when he'd said to Simon Jordan that Spurs had had their pants pulled down for that deal you're like this is it mate Spurs buying good players is not getting their pants but if you saw the Netherlands game the other night Van Hecht looks fucking quality like he looks like a really good player um and you pay a premium for good players that's just how it works you know I mean it's uh I can't remember who was saying it but it's the Grealish thing you know that's the difference it's like that summer we were in for Grealish he wanted to come we could have had him for what was it like 60 mil something like that and levy was like oh even less i think yeah maybe 50 and he was like oh we'll wait we'll wait and i mean that was like a guy he feels like kind of like what madison was for us that when he signed you know of someone who it just feels like a really good fit for the club someone who wanted to come a great attacking player and yeah he fucking just pulled his dick for a while and then suddenly they get more investment and he doesn't come and he goes to city for a hundred million in like two or three years time or whatever it was and that's the difference you know whereas this guy from brighton van hecke he we wanted him we go out and get him yeah maybe we pay 10 15 mil over the market for it but it's like we got the player man it's done and it's done in june you know exactly it's done as the world cup is going on yeah and this is again it's one of those things i couldn't believe that he's in the world cup camp and he signed a deal.

28:46They've fucking flown someone over there. Maybe that's Southampton Spies like waiting outside the stadium with the contract for him.

28:55Jack:He's got a new job now. Yeah, he got let go from Southampton, but yeah, Spurs will utilize it opportunistically, you know. No, but I mean, look, because we've been told for years as well, but it's difficult to do deals. It's difficult when there's a World Cup happening. It's difficult. It's difficult when the team that we want the player from actually wants money for the player, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. There's always a fucking excuse, but no more. It's funny, isn't it? Like the kind of mental gymnastics you do for yourself. Because when Levy was at Spurs and there was, you know, no way that he was ever going to leave, he was going to die in the chairman role.

29:28You go, you look at the positives and you go like, oh, well, you know, at least we're never going to lose a player if we don't want to lose him. And like, I love that he's a bastard to deal with. But now that he's gone, I'm like, I can finally be honest and be like, man, fuck that. Fuck that guy who fucking held us back for so long, you know? Exactly.

29:46Jack:It's like, I don't know, it's like the cloud has been lifted, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah. We'd almost sort of been gassed. He built a stadium, didn't he? Like, you know, it's really nice. There's got to be something good about him. But the truth of the matter is, like, he was just way past his sell-by date. The main counter. Yeah. He did good with the stadium, but he should have had some other people in the structure, you know, that he just couldn't give up control. He couldn't control everything. the guy wanted to sell the club but stay in charge yeah do you know what i mean it's like i saw i can't remember who it was but somebody had tweeted it like yeah i would love to be able to sell my house and still live in it you know like yeah yeah it's it's it's pretty mad isn't it i sort of i missed the missed the mark slightly but um a good mate of mine just like who you're talking about and aussie sort of football culture and stuff good friend of mine yanni greek australian lives in sydney he like he's for his sins he is an arsenal fan but when andrew's here he was like he was like quietly and he never he never said it out loud but i knew like quietly low-key he was uh he was sort of rooting for tottenham a little bit you know and that's kind of that's a good thing but he actually asks because i told him i i had you coming onto the pod and uh he said is iran kunda the second coming of keel that's his question what what happened to kuhl where is he i i mean i don't I must admit, I don't pay huge attention to the Australian team outside of like World Cup qualifiers and all of that.

31:13So I don't really know what's going on with the squad. But I just remember Kuo from the last World Cup and the chance in the Argentina game that fell to him on like 93 minutes. And he had the chance to draw equal with Argentina in the knockout game. And I think he fired it at the keeper or maybe just over. But it was like, you know, he was fucking 17, 18 years old, came on and had this incredible moment that almost leveled the game. And now where is he? Like he's supposed to be 21, 22, you know? He kind of disappeared. I feel sad. I don't quite know what happened. But Aaron Kunder's amazing, man.

31:44He's so good. And I'm trying to remember where he is. Watford.