Did Cristian Romero Go Too Far? | Xavi Simons Listening to Chas & Dave, Johan Lange's Interview & Change For Tottenham's Walkout with Billie T (Q&A)

19:01Jack:They're like best mates, aren't they, to a degree, aren't they? At least in a professional sense.

19:05Xavi Simons:Yeah, he's the one that posted that Romero would rather use the Argentinian doctors than Tottenham. He's the one that posted about Romero's injury and contract. This is essentially coming straight from Romero himself. So I think the club will just be like... We can't keep being called out publicly. It's just making a mess of every single thing, optics-wise. We'll take a bid from Atletico or Real Madrid or whoever it is. and Christy Romero is probably behind the scenes saying, I need to go this time, I want to go, and I'm going to keep doing this until you let me go. I think he's possibly trying to make it untenable, which I think some people will criticise and say, well, you should put the good of the club first.

19:37But at the same time, I think you could infer

19:41Xavi Simons:that he's been broken promises from his reaction to things, both now and before the training transfer window. He keeps talking about lies and stuff all the time, saying it's a disgrace. And anyone that doesn't think that that post was about the transfer window, So the fact that he posted it literally as the central window closed, I think, you know, you've got to read between the lines. And he's done. Abercrombie's active brand, your personal best is built for every part of your workout routine. The YPB neo knit hoodies and sweatpants are soft, breathable and moisture wicking your perfect warmup layers.

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21:25Jack:Got your happy price, Priceline. He does it. He knows, he times this stuff after Eng went, didn't he? He left his post for Eng. Yeah, exactly. There's definitely a self-awareness to all of this. I think probably the bigger problem, not bigger problem, but one of the big problems that we are going to face when it comes to selling Christian Romero is that Spanish clubs quite simply just don't have that much money anymore. Are they going to have the sort of money that Spurs will want for... How old is Christian Romero now? 26, 27? Maybe a bit older than he is.

22:04Xavi Simons:And he's got a massive new deal as well.

22:05Jack:Exactly. Let's say he's 28 with a massive new deal. He's a valuable player. Like Spurs... Are they going to want to lose Christian Romero for less than less than 60 million pounds so what's that 70 million euros probably not um now Real Madrid we know have got that type of money but are they that interested in him I feel that Real Madrid might be more interested in Mickey van der Ven yeah and that's another domino in all this right if Mickey van der Ven sees Christian Romero going I can't imagine he's going to be particularly happy with that either um it'd be interesting

22:43Xavi Simons:to see it because they did say in the Gustav Ndall tweet it says he has interest from La Liga and other leagues. The only thing I can think of from the other leagues is Saudi. I can't imagine anyone else being able to afford him. It'd be interesting because Saudi would no problem pay 60-70 million for Amero. It'd be interesting to see whether he would do that. I'm not sure because obviously he'll be on absolutely insane money out there. I think that's one to maybe keep an eye on because I think you're right. La Liga of clubs are broke. But at the same time, I think what you were saying before, I think the club will just be at a point now where they'll just be so happy to get rid of all of that.

23:19Xavi Simons:And I think he's going to only get worse as time goes on in terms of picking up a fuss and stuff because we know what he's like. He's very passionate. I think by the time there, they'll just be happy to sort of accept a bid probably lower than, you know, Daniel Levy. If Daniel Levy was here, I can't see Romero going for anything less than£90 million or£100 million. But under the new regime, they might just be happy to say, right, let's just stop all this noise and get rid of him. As you said before, I think that's a key consideration, but the Liga clubs are just broke, aren't they? So it'd be interesting to see what happens.

23:49Jack:Yeah. And I wonder if, you know, if these, you know, the new people in charge might be more pragmatic, like you say, they won't be as, say, stubborn in trying to get a deal done at X amount of value as Levy did. They might weigh it up and say, okay, right, we let Christian Mimera go to Atletico Madrid, but what we are doing there is keeping up goodwill between us and that club. We've taken Conor Gallagher from them. they take Christian Romero from us and then who knows in future if there's another Aguero or something come along maybe we beat the city to the chase on that one I don't know do you know

24:22Xavi Simons:what I mean but and obviously we saw it with Johnson as well didn't we like Daniel Levy is never accepting a 35 million pound bid for Johnson for example like absolutely there's no chance he would be trying to get more than that 50 million pounds that we paid for him so yeah it'd be

24:35Jack:interesting to see what happens let's uh let's do langer mate um what are your overall i mean i won't be saying anything that nobody else has already said it was it was uninspiring i don't really know what we were expecting from it um i mean what your main sort of takeaways from from his piece to camera.

25:02Xavi Simons:Yeah, I mean, I think my main takeaways are the fact that there was nothing really surprising. I think you could have predicted every single thing that he said. You know, in terms of the excuses, I think some of them were a bit weak, saying that, you know, well, no one else is signing any players. But I'd also suggest that no one else has 12 first-team injuries at the moment either, so that doesn't really wash. And then, you know, we've seen this kind of stuff coming out all the time lately with Thomas Frank talking about the Semenya bid and then I see there's a bit um a news article today saying well actually Tottenham put in the highest salary for Semenya it's just all of it and this is why I don't blame Lange personally all of it seems to be sort of puff pieces for the owners because I noticed what what was true in that interview is that he mentioned the owners twice and he said you know there's no doubting their ambitions obviously he's been told to say that you know and I think everything that we do at the moment just seems to be them trying to convince people that they're ambitious and trying to convince people that they're going to do this this and this but without actually doing it and you know tottenham i think we've always been the same the same things about all of these things actions are the things which speak louder than words we're very good at making words and vinaya is very good at doing statements in programs and things saying well this is what we're going to do but where is the evidence for it there's no the evidence doesn't follow so and i think langer in particular you know i know he doesn't particularly strike me as an impressive guy or anything like that but at the end of the day before this january transfer window.

26:22Xavi Simons:He was tasked with signing youth players and Paratachi was supposed to be the director of football. Obviously it's been such a mess and chaos that now Lange has been the one who has to go in front all of it for everyone. So I think again it's the same with Romero and the same with Lange. You have to look at the structures above which are the reasons why these guys are ultimately failing at everything they do because I think the buck stops with the owners and we were promised that this was going to be different. We haven't seen any of it.

26:51Jack:That's pretty much bang on, mate.

26:55Jack:It's hard to have any sort of trust for this regime going forwards, isn't it? I mean, that's the main thing.

27:04Xavi Simons:That's crazy to think that's after six months, right? How bad it's been in their first six months. I don't think anyone would have, even the most cynical people would have predicted. But they've lost their director of football. The captain's coming out, making statements against them. And the manager could go game to game. The players are fighting the foul. It's just been absolute chaos since they turned up here. And Lang is just the next fall guy, I guess.

27:30Jack:I think the thing is, if I were to be at all sympathetic to them, I would say I can imagine an institution of this size when there's a shake-up at the top. Daniel Levy has gone. they are having to work out who does what again they're having to sort of reshuffle everything work out a strategy blah blah blah that probably does take a bit of time that probably does take more time than us the average bloke on the street can comprehend I get that to a degree however at the same time at the same time when you look at the state of the squad right now be it ravaged by injury or just not really fit for purpose you look at the place that the team is in the league right now you look at the type of conversations we could be having in a couple of months time if results don't go our way and we're finding ourselves in a more precarious position a much more precarious position the lack of urgency to really bring anybody in outside of Semenyo and yeah sure Semenyo was a player of a you know certain stature who was available it meant that the deal was more straightforward it meant it was easier it meant that there was a almost guarantee that he was going to come in and improve the squad immediately I do understand that there's a hesitancy to say be rushed into something in general all those reasons all those different reasons that people say but I think that the sheer baseline of this whole thing is we needed a lift the club needed a lift the squad needed a lift I think probably Thomas Frank needed a lift and many people don't care about that but still even even

29:21Xavi Simons:came out on the Friday didn't he and said you know the squad is now weaker than it was at the beginning of January he came out on the Friday before the deadline that's mad really you know and I just I

29:29Jack:think it's really really strange that you know they managed to get Brennan Johnson out the door which which is whatever we think about him and i i don't think that was the worst piece of business were it not for the fact we haven't replaced the goals that are missing were it not for the fact we haven't replaced a player who okay wasn't the best but was still effective at what he did and was more often than not available he doesn't have a very big injury list or anything like that to his name Brennan Johnson so we've got one less body one less experienced body at that more goals which have been extracted from the team um it's I just I think it's it's hard to make excuses really for the people running the show that aren't capable of seeing that that have perhaps this level of hubris that Spurs aren't going to get caught in an uncomfortable sort of

30:29Xavi Simons:situation in a few weeks time right yeah and I think the real alarm bells for me was at the end of the interview um he said well you know already we're gonna we're looking towards summer and drawing up a list of players they said that at the end of summer as well and obviously that it's not transpired like we were in a very high profile transfer saga for Savinho and then Semenya and none of them got over the line like and I think you know people were saying well at least we you know we're trying with Semenya or Thomas Frank said that as well if your list only comprises of Semenyo and no other players and you're not doing your job as a recruitment guy like Semenyo particularly this not in summer but particularly now was never realistic considering the other teams that were in for him and he's you know probably the best player in the Premier League at the moment or certainly one of them and in form you know it was never a realistic opportunity so if you bid 70 million for Semenyo and then you offer him a massively lucrative contract has been reported by Mockbell yesterday then where has that money gone for any other targets like if you're you know you can't be going into a transfer window a difficult transfer window as it may be with only one left winger target because in summer you said well yeah we know we didn't get the left winger that we wanted but we were already looking towards january and then you know a year later six months later you're saying well we know we didn't get the left winger wanted but we're looking towards summer it's just the same you know it's repeating the same mistakes isn't it really and we've seen you know in summer not signing a left winger not saying you know particularly has to be savini or whatever has let us down because you know our front three the do not score enough goals and they have they've barely been prolific between them until Solanke's come back so you know we are obviously not signing a prolific left-wing scorer has massively hindered us and it's part of the reason that we're in the mess that we're in and they've had two windows to address it now and not done it in either time do you think there's anything to be said and look you

32:13Jack:know I'm not casting aspersions over like any Danish national characteristics or anything and I say that purely because Mark Nesbitt has brought that up before when I've spoken to him about this type of thing but the fact that we have in langer and in frank two fairly dour characters who aren't really very good at selling a dream i don't think neither of them whatever you know i i had my fair share to say about andropos to coglu but one of the things i think most people were united on with him was his ability to tell a story to sell a dream to get people on board with his words now he is exceptional at that and not everybody is going to be an orator on the level of Ange Postacoglu with doing that type of thing but there are still levels to it right and I find that two of the figureheads of the club as I say in Lange and in Frank are these two quite dour individuals these two individuals who as opposed to selling as a dream want to temper our expectations at basically every single turn and i just wonder like it can't only be the fans that find this type of negging to be quite uninspiring right like surely that bleeds down into the club into the squad like like you know we made a joke before this um bill like can you imagine langer and frank sitting christian romero down and telling him off like about his social media posts i mean it's just not going to be a thing is it

33:51Xavi Simons:yeah and um obviously we were talking about you know before the show about the um before the press conference and that predicting that you know lang or frank will probably say they're dealing with internally and that's exactly what's transpired um but you just can't imagine that these guys what's lang i'm going to say to romero do you know i mean it's just like imagining that kind of conversation and how that goes like i just can't you know i'm not you know you know i know everybody every single person is different and some people have different temperaments and stuff and some people are cool calm and collected and things but i just don't don't get the ambition or i don't you know look at the characteristics that you want to see in a manager or a director don't seem to come through from these guys um and i think you know and that's i think probably why Langer was essentially demoted in the first place.

34:38Xavi Simons:You know, speaking to people like Paul O 'Keefe has said that, you know, he was sort of useless in negotiations and things like that, and he sort of got demoted to being like a youth scout, essentially, which is obviously something which he's decent at. And it's just sort of weird that he's sort of been left as the one to spearhead the director of football now that Fabio's gone. And then I did see that Matt Law said, we're going to try and bring someone else in, but at the moment, you know, he was sort of left with the January transfer window and directing our football club. And clearly, you know, he got demoted at Aston Villa he's essentially been demoted at Tottenham you know this guy is not a competent director of football at the end of the day.

35:13Jack:Do you have any feelings on the Levy stuff on you know the sort of Brooklyn Eric the crypto bro trying to buy out Levy's stake and blah blah blah all that sort of stuff?

35:26Xavi Simons:I think you know what I'm just from reading various different things and various different sources it's quite interesting I think what I would say is I think what you can read into it is that obviously the Lewis family's intention was to buy Daniel Levy's shares. I think, you know, there's no secret about that. And that's kind of what they want so that they have 100 % control of the football club. And I think what we're seeing now is I don't think Daniel Levy was ever going to go down quietly and just say, you know, here's my shares. Take them for a price that I believe is low. And you could have them and let's just be done with all this.

36:00Xavi Simons:I think, you know, knowing what we know about Daniel Levy over the last 25 years, his personality and the way that he does things he was never going to go down without a fight and i think what we're seeing now is potentially that fight and um you know a lot of noise and interest and smoke and mirrors and things like that and i think from what it sounds like from reading between the lines their relationship was really messy lewis family and daniel levy and simon jordan suggested that the lewis family suspect foul play and his past and they're auditing that situation to see if that's true so i think this is the beginning of something quite messy and i think it's probably going to get drawn out but what i think it will ultimately lead to is the lewis family buying daniel levy's um you know his his shares eventually i think that's the end game for all this but i don't think daniel levy was ever going to go down without a fight put it that way i mean in terms of like enix position really like i'm just sort of i mean

36:59Jack:the main thing I hope is at the end of the day, really they sell the club. I think if the, if we want to compete, I think we've arrived at a point now where the cup just needs to be sold. From my perspective, it makes sense really. And I, can I just preface this all by saying I have literally no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to this type of thing. And I don't pretend to, I'm just trying to break this down. Yeah. Yeah. In a layman's way that I sort of feel makes sense. and it makes sense to me that tottenham hotspur is a much more attractive proposition to a buyer if enic own all of it if enic just has the whole thing and can sell it to somebody not somebody saying well you get this percentage of it but another percentage is owned by this weird kind of crypto dude who bought a bought a chunk of it that has no controlling option or anything on it it just seems to be a dead investment from anyone else's perspective which

37:58Xavi Simons:is sort of weird and a consortium of people buying 30 of this club where they ultimately won't have any say in anything just doesn't seem right to me it just doesn't seem like why would anyone

38:07Jack:really essentially want to do that so it seems nefarious that's the thing it seems like weird unless unless they would want to then go on and buy the rest of it for me nick yeah but exactly yeah but i saw that simon jordan thing as well and he seemed to suggest that these people are chances that they don't have the money at all for that type of thing yeah yeah and he seems to

38:29Xavi Simons:suggest that they don't even have or what he what he was saying was that daniel levy had told him that he doesn't think that they have the money to even buy the the 30 for 1 billion so you know the the which would then suggest they've got no chance of buying the whole club for three and a half

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40:13Jack:It's all just money. like these sort of amount of these amounts that just get chucked about is just it's insane isn't

40:21Xavi Simons:it really yeah and i don't know if you do you ever watch the show industry i i haven't i'll ask you

40:27Jack:about this actually go on but tell me what you're gonna say yeah i mean that is essentially what the

40:31Xavi Simons:whole show is about it's about sort of like the idea of you know all of our structures that we rely on are essentially just people gambling and stuff against you know things that do and don't exists and it's like the whole finance world is essentially just a massive gambling product project for you know people that are in in charge of it and stuff and it industry is an amazing amazing show i absolutely love it and i was gonna say i've seen it called the like spiritual

40:56Jack:succession yeah successor to succession yeah it's very that and it's very it's a bit like

41:02Xavi Simons:succession mixed with skins i would say it's a bit like but most of the time i don't have a clue what they're talking about when they go into the finance specific stuff and it's just like it's all numbers and shorting and doing this and that and i had that well the big short was like

41:15Jack:such a good film but i didn't understand any of it you know succession is really very much like that but the good thing about it is you can still um you can still get it from just how strong the

41:25Xavi Simons:characters are but most of this stuff is just like all imaginary like numbers on projections and things it's like none of it is actually real it's just that world is just so far beyond anything that I particularly comprehend that it's just it's crazy really but that is essentially what's happening you know we've just got these people in rooms that are sort of valuing and devaluing our club and trying to at the end of the day this is our football club that they're doing this with and it'll be interesting to see how it happens but you know if an industry is anything to go by it's a lot of gambling and sort of you know say you know just rich people trying things and failing a lot of them and then trying another thing and until they get their way great that's

42:03Jack:really life-affirming and makes us feel all valuable, doesn't it? It is Thursday, and there's a lot of questions in, Bill, so I'll just start piling into them now. Frazzino on Blue Sky says, After recent performances versus Dortmund, Frankfurt and Manchester City, is there cause enough to believe that the tide could be turning with Thomas Frank? If we get a positive result on Saturday, can we start letting a little optimism into our lives again or do you think he's gone in the summer regardless?

42:41Xavi Simons:Well, firstly, I think the Champions League is like a completely separate entity to the Premier League at the moment and we've seen the fact that, you know, there are brilliant performances and it's great to be fourth in the Champions League, but the disparity seems to be so big between the English clubs and the non-English clubs that it's difficult to take a read on that at the moment and it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next stages. But it's great, really positive that we did that and not discrediting it. It's difficult to see how that translates to the Premier League. But I think the Man City's second half was good.

43:09Xavi Simons:The first half was the same as what we... The first half was possibly our worst first half of the season. So again, I would question whether we can actually play well for a whole game of football, I think is a massive concern. And then if you look at the two previous Premier League games, Burnley and West Ham, you know, dreadful in both of them. So I think what I would hope that we can start doing now, though, is start looking above the table rather than below it. I think now that we're sort of nine, which is essentially 10 because of our goal difference, hopefully, fingers crossed, we can stop thinking about relegation and start looking at above.

43:41Xavi Simons:Because what I would love to do is turn the season around and finish in those Europe places because we're closer to those than we are to relegation. And people are, you know, lots of people are fearing relegation, but not many people are sort of positive about the fact that we could get in Europe if we go on a run. But I'm personally, I don't think this guy is going to be the one to turn us around. I don't think things will turn around. I think we'll probably struggle in the next few league games, certainly against Man United and Arsenal. I know Nucos would have been pretty poor. I'm just not quite seeing enough still.

44:14Xavi Simons:I don't blame anyone for being optimistic about it because at the end of the day, we all want to sit there and be optimistic about our football club because no one really likes to come on and do mongering all the time. But I just don't think this guy has it. I really don't. I don't think he'll be here beyond the summer. But it would be lovely if we could go on a little run now. What I do think has happened is I do think we've looked better since we've gone to five at the back. So hopefully that might just allow us to scrape along a run of form. Where are you at with the whole Frank thing at the moment?

44:43Jack:I mean, you know, I agree with you. I don't think he's good enough. My main fear with it, though, mate, is that if he makes, if he lasts till the summer, that they won't get rid of him. Yeah, that really sucks the life out of me, I think. Yeah, my big fear is that it is going to take Spurs being an unmitigated catastrophe and then sacking him mid-way through the season for him to go. Because like I say, I think if he, say if results do pick up, great, that's good for Spurs. And I'm happy about that. But I just, I always think there'll be a limit on what we can achieve with Thomas Frank in charge.

45:20Jack:I think he's shown that already. I know people will say it's too soon to make that decision, but I don't agree with that. I just don't think the guy is up to much. I don't think there's enough of a positive energy that comes from him or what he says, what he wants to achieve.

45:43Jack:And yeah, I mean, my big fear is that like Vinay has just got the bit between his teeth on this one though and feels like he can spawn another Arteta. which you know i just think is is quite mad but yeah i mean i you know i my honestly my gut feeling on this mate is that thomas frank is probably going to be in charge for quite some time i think spurs will probably muddle through this season maybe maybe you know if we don't it goes it goes two ways to me we either end up getting closer and closer to that relegation point and you know really being in trouble or we muddled through enough we finish maybe 11th 12th something like that and the board will say well under those circumstances he did okay next season we have Kulisevsky back next season we have Madison back let's give him a chance with those players blah blah blah blah blah you know and it like you say it will be flat going into next season with him in charge and probably you know not many signings made in summer despite the promises that there will be but yeah maybe I'm just being look saying that is is pretty negative you know and I don't really want to sort of project that out there if Spurs are I don't know if Spurs feel like they are onto something then you know you want to try and back that but it's just quite hard to at the moment isn't it in the mire of it all yeah i think so and um you know if

47:22Xavi Simons:i think that a lot will come down to the sort of how the fans are in the stadiums and you know in the games and stuff if you know we continue to get this absolutely miserable home form i think the winning the draw against man city was great but you know we're still without a win in the premier league in 2026 and if we don't win one of the next three i think you'll be in big trouble because that will go into the end of February and no wins in the Premier League in 2026 will be crazy. Going into March, that will be obviously Man United, Newcastle, Man City. I think he has to try and win that Newcastle game essentially because I can't see us maybe drawing against Man United but I can't see us winning it.

47:58Xavi Simons:And then I can't see us, obviously, we know what's like did happen versus Arsenal. But I think we have to target that Newcastle game as a game to win because if we don't win against Man United and then we lose to Newcastle at home or withdraw with Newcastle, the knives are going to be out. I think there's so many home atmospheres and stuff and so many times being booed and Thomas Frank walking in front of a weigh-in and stuff that they will be able to take. But I definitely, definitely think their intention is for him to be here long-term. But I don't think that is particularly appealing to many fans at this point.

48:32Jack:Joe Scaramanga says, this is on Blue Sky, says, after the window, it's clear that the board have written off the season and Frank's time is coming. But are they too complacent about our relegation chances?

48:46Xavi Simons:Yeah, I think that was an interesting consideration as why they didn't sign anyone in January as well. I think maybe they're just thinking, well, if we are going to get rid of this guy and get someone else in, what's the point of buying him a load of players that are going to suit him? And I think that speaks more to the fact that our, you know, there's no direction in our football club. The director of football is not. because if you watch the the women's director of football interview that came out today and the director of football said there what we're doing is we're looking at players characters and we're trying to buy players that suit our identity and suit our style of play and i didn't mention the manager or anything like that i just said you know we're buying players for our identity and we're buying players for our style of play and that's essentially what a director's football director of football's role is.

49:33Xavi Simons:They are supposed to be dictating what our style of play is. But under this current regime, we've gone from Ange to Frank, who are two completely polar opposite managers and have no sort of cohesion in their style whatsoever. And as a result, we're just sort of... If we now get rid of Frank, are we just going to end up buying loads of players like Palina and Gallagher that a progressive manager might turn their nose up at? So there's no sort of strategy involved in it, which I think is a big, big problem. And maybe they've realised that, and that's why they've not gone for anyone in January. but I think in answer to the question, yes.

50:04I think if they had any genuine fears about being relegated,

50:07Xavi Simons:he would have gone after West Ham. I don't think we are too big to be relegated at the moment. I think if we don't pick up a couple of wins soon, we could get right dragged back down into it, particularly as teams like West Ham and Forest are picking up wins and stuff. So definitely something we have to keep an eye on. I think hopefully we get a win in the next couple of games, we can start looking above, as I said before, but we're definitely not too big to go down, even though they seem to think that we are.

50:32Jack:Mike on Blue Sky says, sort of in contrast to the point that's just been made above, does the hiring of another Brentford physio suggest that they are actually doubling down on Frank and he will in fact still be our manager at the start of next season? That is an interesting position, isn't it? You know, they gave him Heitinger, who was the assistant that he wanted. They've given him another sort of member of a backroom staff that I'm pretty certain he will have requested they bring in um it does seem like you know a lot of confidence and you know pieces to be giving to a guy that you know is

51:11Xavi Simons:in peril shall we say yeah I think I don't yeah I think that's that's something to read into because I think they've got eight or not I think I read there's eight backroom staff that they fired from Brentford now or something like that in total since Thomas Frank has been here so So they're definitely intending to back him and keep him here. I just suspect that the situation might become untenable if results don't pick up, that it wouldn't really matter in the first place. I think they're trying to appear competent and thinking, well, we've got a long-term plan of this and we're going to stick with it.

51:41Xavi Simons:But if Tottenham finish, say, 16th or 17th or 15th, no European football, no trophy, then you can't keep that manager, I'm afraid. You just can't do it.

51:52Jack:There's a funny one here from... jimsdahl who says what's the best way to communicate to the team that you're unhappy with them as an american who doesn't buy merch or go to games gotta get creative here bill

52:07Xavi Simons:putting you on the spot yeah that is a really interesting one isn't it i think um maybe

52:11Jack:obscenities on instagram posts and stuff my favorite thing is the uh that people that are

52:17Xavi Simons:at spurs official as if that's the the board that's reading it that's definitely the least effective way isn't it when people go fuck you don't know what you're fucking doing and all this stuff too at spurs official it's probably some poor intern that's on the other end of a desk crying yeah that is definitely um that is definitely the best way in an actual sense i'm obviously uh change from tottenham have always you know people have always messaged us to say to do this it's um you know people have always suggested to go after the sponsors and i think if we were genuinely serious about doing, you know, about sort of, you know, globalising action against the board or something, then that's probably the way to go about it.

52:54Xavi Simons:But it's obviously quite difficult to do. I reckon if like Nike got a thousand Spurs fans going, you know, in their mentions about Enoch all the time, then, you know, that's a good way to harm something like that. But what is definitely not the way is atting some poor social media intern on Twitter or Instagram.

53:12Jack:Bill, you've just mentioned change for Tottenham there. So that's a good one for this question from Houston Reveaux, who on Twitter, who says, I'll put it to you basically saying like, would change for Tottenham consider doing the, like the, so say a late walk in, as opposed to the walk out, as we saw that didn't really work in the last time that we tried to do it. Is that something that's been discussed at all at change for Tottenham?

53:43Xavi Simons:Yeah, definitely. definitely has been discussed and it's definitely something which we might look into I think what I've learned from that or what we've learned from that it's best not to try and do things that are sort of reactive to the match in the stadium because loads of people messaged us and said well you were unlucky because if we were 3-0 down loads of people would have walked out but I don't think that's right either because then people are walking out because we're 3-0 down and not because they want to send a message to the owners and the ownership, which is what Change for Tottenham is about.

54:14So I think we've learned that that kind of thing is probably not effective.

54:19Xavi Simons:I think at the end of the day, most people pay in for the stadium, pay in for the tickets. They just want to support the team and certainly wouldn't begrudge that. So we could definitely look at perhaps a late entry into the stadium. And I guess we'll still get some of the same considerations where people want to support the team from the off. And someone else has suggested as well as a sit-in at the end of the match because then the match is finished. But I think our bigger problem is sort of raising the awareness to more people inside the stadium about change to Tottenham and marketing it in a stronger and better way, which is the real issue that we're trying to deal with and the real issue that over the last week we've gone back and trying to think about.

54:56Xavi Simons:I think the fact is, and the biggest problem that we're facing is, inside that stadium there are 65 ,000 people roughly. It seems to be getting less and less by the game, but there are roughly 65 ,000 people in that stadium. And how many of them are actually aware of the things that we talk about on Twitter and online, I think, for a lot of those people inside that stadium they go to tottenham with their family they go home and then that's their tottenham done they're not consuming like twitter and youtube and podcasts talking about the owners and you know for a lot of people they might not be aware of the issues they might not be aware of change for tottenham they might not be aware of the protests um because you know twitter uh you know which is obviously our main sort of source of promotion and and youtube are quite you know and they probably speak to a few thousand people rather than 65 000 so we definitely have to diversify our marketing as well um and we're definitely trying to think of ways well if we've got a loyal couple of hundred people what's the best way of using those inside the stadium that it could be a sitting it could be a late entry um i think the problem with really significant things inside that stadium is you know people that are are against the owners and stuff will be so far spread out about inside the stadium um that it's difficult to send a message because you know if you have a thousand people walking out of the south stand it's not going to touch because there's 17 ,000 other people in there.

56:09Xavi Simons:So we definitely need to go away and think about some changes and some things that we can market better and do better, and that's definitely what we're going to be doing. But I think what is true is after the transfer window,

56:23Xavi Simons:people are rightly angry, and there's a lot of anger and there's a lot of frustration at the moment. So we're going to go away and come back, and then we'll decide how best to facilitate that voice for fans that are our angry and fine ways of doing it in a more powerful way. So yeah, definitely, definitely something we should consider.

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