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31:34And it's just kind of like, if he's not learned now, if the reactions and the performances to the home performances, especially, if that's not, if the penny hasn't dropped yet, then he's on borrowed time, regardless of whether I think he should go or not.

31:50Jack:Let's just say, going into that, I would say, look, we've seen, let's just say, if we're saying that he's not learning anything, let's just say, let's just say, Can I say, let's just say any more times? Please do. He's dropped the double pivot of catastrophe, which is Polinia and Bentancur. He seemingly does have taken on board that many people are unhappy with that. You wonder, I always wonder, I always wonder how much this stuff works out, how much, because he says, and another thing he's sort of referenced a few times is he's ignoring pundits. He doesn't listen to social media. He's not involved in social media, blah blah blah blah like you know there's there's bits and pieces like that but i wonder if there are people at the club if somebody even as high up as vin i is just you know when he has a little chat with him says so you know a lot of people aren't particularly happy with you starting those two or not i'm all i'm always i'm just always interested to know with football clubs in general how this stuff works out but let's just say you know maybe he's informed enough and you would hope that he is as a Premier League football manager, regardless of the level that we think he's capable of, that he would see that Polini and Bentenka simply is a dead end for Tottenham attacking any football matches.

33:06Jack:So if we can say that he has learned from that, and I personally feel that the Manchester United game in spells was much more positive than we've seen in previous weeks. FC Copenhagen very much so, but again, And with all due respect, I think they are probably a mid-table championship side in terms of their quality. So we should be battering them. And we did. So fair enough. But I feel like the Manchester United game, there was more expression there. Xavi Siemens was playing more centrally. He was getting involved in stuff. I know people are pointing out the fact that we only scored our two goals after he came off.

33:46Jack:but is that more to do with the fact we had the balance of Wilson Odeberg playing out on the left again, like an actual left-hand sided player playing on the left. Imagine that. So, I mean, where I am, because I do, I do get a lot of what you're saying and I do take a lot of that on board. I just think where I am at with it now is I don't think definitively I can say this is all on Frank or this is all on the players. I do think Frank can be doing a lot of things better. I do think he can be more positive and should be more positive. And as I've sort of said on here plenty of times, I do think there are certain little moments where the mask slips with him, notably in the pre-match presser against Manchester United when he spent, to be fair, he was asked a question about what to expect from Manchester United.

34:39Jack:But his response to that question was essentially, they've got loads of dangerous attackers. we're working on how we're going to close them down how we're going to stop them from doing what they do and then in a sort of awkward moment he kind of caught himself and said oh yeah and uh we're also obviously gonna try and get them on the back foot by pressing a bit and it just it just it wasn't convincing you know this is the whole thing about him being overwhelmed by it isn't it yeah yeah you know because like when when he was at brentford basically any team going to play at Brentford was going to be a bigger team because they're a small club.

35:13They're Kew Gardens FC.

35:16Jack:Nothing wrong with Kew Gardens, mate. Nice place for a bit of coffee and cake. It's lovely. I've got membership.

35:26That sort of response is what you would expect from a manager of Brentford. But it shouldn't even have to be told that you're the top manager now. if he's asked about what to think about Man United you just flip it around and go well you should be asking Man United what they're going to think about us easy, done everyone's happy but instead he gets drawn into like kind of glorifying and like monsterising these players and United are shit let's be honest, United are rubbish I know you saw it was better and yes compared to the Chelsea performance it was compared to the Wolves I mean, the Wolves gave, fuck me.

36:07That was something rotten. It's a terrible, terrible performance. So yes, it was marginally better than that, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it was good. You know, it just seems like there was one point in the first half, and I think the clip's done the rounds, because my head exploded. Like, Xavi's kind of made this run. He's managed to slip his man, and he's running through towards goal. and there's not a single player trying to keep Xavi's not lightning quick players should be like sprinting to like join him in attack no one comes he's literally just he's looking around and there's like six, seven United players around him so he's got no choice he manages to hold onto the ball despite getting tackled eventually a few of our players decide to jog up and see what's going on and then they just stand there they don't move a muscle They just stood like in a line, not doing anything.

37:06And it's like, again, I'm just going back to my previous point. It's like they don't have a plan of attack. So Xavi finding his feet a bit, I think it's more to do with him kind of adjusting to this pace of the physicality of the league more than it has anything to do with like Frank has like started to realise how we can get him more involved in games. He's decent, isn't he?

37:32Jack:Do you like him, Xavi Simmonds? Pardon? Do you like Xavi Simmonds? He's decent for my money. Yeah, I think he's got real potential. I like the sort of player he is. He's not like a Luka Modric type of player in many respects, but he does that thing that I really like, that Modric is where he's kind of like, without moving the ball, he does this kind of body feign and manages to like... It's the drop of the shoulder, isn't it? Yeah, but it's not quite, it's not a very pronounced one. It's very faint and it just kind of gives him a split second to like kind of wrong foot the opponent and then slip away.

38:11Jack:I do think there are comparisons to be made with Luka Modric there, the way he moves. Very wrong footed. Well, yeah, but it is mostly in his movement, his sort of body shape and things like that. And then obviously, you know, the narrative around his sort of Spurs career leans into that. But I do like him. I think he's definitely a player there. You can see that he's got bags of talent. But if we've got... I just felt like he was getting frustrated at many points during the game. I felt like... It felt to me that many of the players around him just quite simply weren't on the same page as him.

38:48Jack:I mean, Brennan Johnson, look, again, you always have to caveat this with God bless him and all that type of stuff, the Europa League final. But, you know, the lad is, he's, he's, he's championship mate. I'm sorry. Like I really do feel that about him. He's, is that harsh, you know, but I just, but he's not very good. No. And when I look at Xavi Siemens, I do think there's intent there. And I feel that we will see, we will see. look I'm not going to make any bold prediction I'm not going to say we will see this but I am very interested to see the sort of performances and the sort of end product he has when he has when he looks to his right or left and he's got Kulusevsky and Kudus there in front of him when he's got Dominic Solanke right in front of him or you know whoever else we maybe sign if we sign a top draw strike and sit in front of him he's dead that's kind of how it feels a bit doesn't it You know, he's not even on grass.

39:52Jack:It's a huge cover-up. That's the big Thomas Frank test. Or is it like Paul McCartney and all that? We're going to suddenly... Yeah. Spottings of Elvis and Dominic Solanke. No, wait. No, it was Paul McCartney, wasn't it? Paul McCartney is apparently... Is it Paul McCartney who's a clone? Or a body double? Avril Lavigne? There's a really good podcast series about that, actually, about Avril Lavigne's body double. but um i think it's paul mccartney who people say that has a body there's a lot of these sort of conspiracy theories um and you should be wary of them jack well you know that's just that's just what you would say isn't it as one of the sheeple you you sit there in your you know in your in your in your nice little whatever i can't bother to go on about that um Jaupelinha still dividing people, still dividing fans.

40:47Jack:I quite like him still. I do. I think we need a player like him. It could be one of those tires over arguments, hasn't it? We just, we absolutely need a player with his skillset in the side. We do. I just don't, I don't understand how there could be, look, yes, exactly. We need someone who can like stop attacks and make tackles. We've needed someone like that for years. Do we need that person to be playing every game? No, that's it. In certain fixtures, say our next Premier League fixture away at Arsenal, I think we might need someone who can put their foot in the midfield. Just a thought. That's quite a bold call.

41:25Jack:That's quite a bold call. Why am I saying it like that? Bold call. There we go. Yeah, well, you know, I'm not afraid to say what people are. That's undergarbled. Anyway, so yes, in certain games, we really need someone who can go around and kick people up the arse. In other games, we might need someone with a little more finesse, even though actually I think he's not as bad as people make out. I think it's massively overstated, man. I think there's so much confirmation bias at play. And yeah, I get it. Is he our second top scorer as well? I don't know, but... I think he's got four goals. I think he might be our second highest scorer.

42:03Jack:The comparison that's always going to be made, and I see people make it without any shred of like awareness really on Twitter constantly is, well, he's not Caicedo and he's not Rodri. And you're like, well, yeah, but isn't there a reason why those two players are like 150 million pound footballers? But also, only two teams have those players. World would have them. This is it, right? What's the drop down from that? There are other Rodri's going around that we haven't found out about. Well, I mean, the drop down from that is Declan Rice, who was£100 million. I'm not just saying it because of Arsenal, blah, blah, all that sort of thing.

42:41Jack:I don't think he's quite on that level of like a Rodri. You can't have a man with – he's got a granny's haircut as well. And they're not exactly the same type of player, but I would say they fulfil a similar function. But yeah, he is a very good player. I agree with that. But that's still a£100 million player. We're talking about Jao Polini being somebody that we can get for 20-something mil, who at the moment is still only on loan. Is still only on loan and does a job that, as you say, we have needed. I get that he's not maybe like the ideal solution, but when you take him out the side, it was a free-for-all against us last year.

43:21Jack:And we were constantly complaining about the fact that Van de Ven and Romero had nobody screening them. Nobody screening them for midfield. now we have somebody doing that we're complaining about the fact that he's not playing Kevin De Bruyne or Esparse's I think it's it's surely there has to be a an acceptance that there's baby steps here and I get it I'm not I'm not a scout I don't have a a network of people out there that can feed me players are playing in the Bundesliga or whatever that could be doing this job that Rodri or Casado is doing great if those players exist then hopefully Spurs will pick them up But for now, I think one of the things that we really don't need to be kicking off about is the fact that we've got a guy who has come to the Premier League and is doing an all right job, really.

44:10Jack:And I think when we've seen him and Benton Kerr not playing together, I think the Spurs are capable of knocking the ball about quite nicely. I just, I just, I don't, I don't believe it all rests on the fact that we have Jaupelina in the midfield playing sideways passes. No. They say you can tell a lot about a person by the contents of their freezer. So what does a bottle of Jägermeister say? It says you have standards. You don't cut corners. And you like your Jägermeister shots the way they're meant to be enjoyed. Ice cold. As for the frozen taquitos and mystery leftovers, we'll keep that between us.

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45:25Jack:See Pays.com to learn more. Terms and conditions apply. Well, Lorenzo, the pitch looked good. Yeah, so green. USA Keeper was decent enough. Didn't have much to do. Ugh, 99 minutes. Not a single goal. Well, Bet365 sure came through, though. I bet$10 and get$150 in bonus bets just for signing up. At least someone scored. Bet 365. Winning is everything. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. 21 plus only. Must be physically located in Illinois. T's and C's apply. In-app only. As to why spurs are incapable of, you know, really having meaningful attacks on... Yeah, I think I would look more towards the standard of coaching that they're being put through than anything.

46:13We get it, mate.

46:14Jack:You hate Thomas Frank. Obviously, we also have a lot of shit players. That is the truth. We also have a lot of players that are very similar. Our midfield is very much kind of ball-carrying, box-to-box type. The technical standards in our team are through the floor. That's why when Mawani did that brilliant piece of control the other week against Copenhagen, we haven't seen anyone control a ball like that for fucking ages. we was like what the fuck is that speak for yourself speak for yourself I do that down goals every week yeah if you're kidding your arm that's it and a fag on that's it have a pint at half time you know what I mean yeah but do you know what I mean like we were kind of it looked and that's why like players are kudos you know we might never see him again now as soon as the way things go just a knock mate we're bringing these players that have like just a knock yeah but we're bringing these players that have like a degree of like technical competence and we're like whoa like because we haven't seen anything like that you know there are certain players that you know not every player has to be like that like take Sartre I know you're a big fan of Sartre I'm a big fan of Sartre and he has like so many great qualities but he's not uh I wouldn't say he's like the most technically gifted player in our team he's great I love him to bits but I wouldn't say that he's bloody better he's bloody Just keep the positive vibes about Pac-Mata.

47:47I've got nothing but positive vibes about Pac-Mata. Don't worry. But we have a lot of those players. Even Bergbrau, who I think is probably more technical, he's still a bit more up and about, a bit more physical and imposing than someone like Xavi. You can see the difference in their skill set. And so as a result, we have all these players that are good at the wrong thing. So it's not really a little only wonder that we can't pass. So yes, Palli isn't like Yoga Benito in it over to all over the pitch. But neither are any of our other players because they're not that sort of player. And the couple we do have are either their knees are falling off or their jaws are broken or there's only one of them.

48:41and it's just like this is why we're so kind of one of the reasons is that we're so rubbish really we're rubbish and we're boring to watch and I'm sick I'm sick of it Jack

48:54Jack:you sure then who comes in who do you want as manager I don't know I mean I'm not because you know when I was saying pay me millions of pounds a year and I'll go and find out who I need to manage but I go to Iriola I know they lost 4-0 to Villa yesterday but like he's done alright he looks like he knows well you're just saying that because he looks a bit like Pochettino that's what that's why I was saying it be honest that's why I was saying it you know in the first place I was like he looks he looks sort of like a Pez Pochettino doesn't he so let's get him in do you know what I mean he's got he's got one of them names do you know what I mean Spanish-y name yeah go on exactly let's have him in Tony Tafas get him in exactly exactly because I sort of I'd spoken about Oliver Glasner.

49:40Jack:I was like, oh, you know, if we had a chance to get Oliver Glasner, we should take him. And it was pointed out to me that Oliver Glasner plays football really much like Thomas Frank does. It's apparently remarkably similar. I think Glasner's a really good manager. And I think Frank's probably a good manager, but it's like, that's not the sort of manager that's ever going to thrive at Tottenham. And then, you know, unless, you know, Frank just needs to buck his ideas up, and teach them how to pass the ball and just, you know, not rely on set pieces. Actually, like, OK, guys, maybe, you know, we could play through the middle a bit.

50:16Because that was the irritating thing about Saturday, actually. Like, where United were, like, the most open and most vulnerable was through the middle of the park. You know, they've got, you know, playing the wing-backs, three at the back. That leaves Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes basically marshalling the centre of the pitch. Now, they're both good players, but I personally feel a good team might be able to play through that midfield too we did not even try to do that and why not? We should be capable of doing that. Players should be able to pass forward to a player in space but no and then it obviously all breaks down because Charleston fucking falls over and Johnson can't be found because he's hiding and someone's probably dead

51:04Jack:it's uh it's quite funny isn't it though to see manchester united a team that used to win trebles a team that used to you know feel that emboldened enough to call their stadium the theater of dreams which to me has always been a bit naff um now going potty losing their minds because they've managed to nab a uh a 2-2 draw away at little old tottenham little old tottenham who they haven't beaten since 2021. How the mighty have fallen. I didn't say that the other day. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I think it's been that long. Was it the New York game? I might just be spreading fake news, but I think Cristiano Ronaldo scored the last winner against Spurs.

51:44Jack:That's a nice thought. So, you know, it's a delict shushing us, cupping his ears, all that type of stuff, mate. What are you doing, mate? Bobbitt's player as well. We broke you. We literally broke you as a player. Yeah. you know you would like the most promising young centre back in Europe until that Ajax game and big bad Lucas Moura look where you are now big bad Lucas Moura with all his problematic tweets came and got you didn't he yeah I don't know do you like international breaks Oli are you looking forward to this no actually I'm not I like football I like watching Tottenham I don't even know England are playing Albania and someone I'm not sure cool well that sounds cracking it seems to be every time I watch an England game we're playing against Albania or Slovenia you know yeah is that a gammon thing I don't know I enjoy I mean yeah I mean it's all all over there war torn Europe let's call it that we I like obviously international tournaments because it's like football's on every day and it's good fun but this shit because fuck I just put top of the back on the funny thing is this year and this to me is kind of a sign of where our squad is at, obviously I don't want to see us get any more injuries or anything but every time we used to go into an international break I'd be like please, please don't let Harry Kane get injured, please don't let Sonja Min get injured, I mean to be fair I'm saying this out loud, Mickey Van Der Ven, I'm always terrified of him pinging a hamstring so but I don't know how often he plays or not for Holland is he a mainstay in the Holland team I kind of feel like he's I think he plays left back still in and out of it which is even more concerning yeah it is a bit concerning so other than Mickey van der Ven Christian Romero is already down I don't know how bad his injury is going to be he obviously limped off against he's gone hasn't he's gone on international GE well of course he's always going to do that isn't he but whether or not he plays I don't know but he's a captain yeah but it doesn't mean he's going to play does it I don't know he will of course he's going to play of course he's going to play He probably went down half-time because he thought, yeah, I need to, you know, vamos Malvinas and all that.

54:00Jack:Do you know what I mean? He's, yeah. My point is… We don't have any players that kind of like… Well, exactly. You know, we've got Arsenal straight after this international break. And look, we've got two weeks without Spurs. And it feels like great. We've got two weeks waiting for the worst possible thing to happen. I'm still kind of hopeful we can nab something there. but I'm sort of less hopeful as Tom goes on. At this rate, you're going to be able to field a bloody team. You know, I was on Twitter earlier, Tom Foyne. You? You were on Twitter, were you? Yeah, it's a cool website, actually. And he retweeted the club's tweet about Solanke being injured.

54:53I think it was the pre-season game he misses it with a minor ankle injury that was July

55:02and like they can't even say if he's going to play this year they're like and so you know I look at the Arsenal game it's like well Mouani's obviously not going to be fit Richarlison he'll just get they'll eat him alive tell they'll eat him alive I don't think there's a part of me where I allow my imagination to run wild I think yeah maybe you know what we could just shithouse it but then there's another part of me

55:33Jack:I do kind of feel that to a degree I'm just saying I do kind of feel like that could be a thing I do also think it could be a thing that we go there and not even have a shot and get turned over 3-0 because I just think whenever we come in contact at the moment with any degree of competency and a little bit of pressure we get we just get fouled out well you know who what's been the one game this season you looked at and thought yeah actually we we were really good I mean the city way stands out but they they were losing to everyone at that point and they were not in a good way they were certainly not playing like they are at the moment and I do kind of feel like City doesn't really count because we do that to them anyway and they were shit at the time I you know we've had some kind away fixtures I know the away form has been good and it's certainly not to be sniffed at but even still you know Everton it wasn't a 3-0 margin of victory obviously it was we didn't play good enough to win 3-0 Leeds was probably the best of the bunch and even that wasn't exactly Leeds was decent Everton was alright it was alright it was alright but we rode our luck a bit because you know and on another day a team does score quite a few goals against us but isn't the Premier League just really hard there I'm in a bad place Jack I was going to say it does feel that way I mean isn't the Premier League just really difficult though couldn't that be argued there's loads of really good teams basically every team is really good Yeah, but I want us to be really good, but we're not really good.

57:20All the other teams are getting really good.

57:22Jack:I say this with Phil all the time, man. It's just like, remember when it was like peak Pochettino and we were just slapping teams left, right and centre. We were going into games against the best teams in the country thinking we can go toe-to-toe with anyone. Anyone is scared of us. I would go into those fixtures, you know, especially the last couple of seasons at the lane and you'd be like, I reckon three, four goals today. Easy. And now we're going to fixtures thinking three, four passes. Like the standards have just completely and it's not it's not all frank. This is a That is Daniel Levy, mate.

58:01Jack:That is Levy. That is the way the club's been run for. It's Levy, but it's yeah. But then, you know, you had that it was a cow that podcast that you had on the other week and he was going through the goals that players have scored and it I tell you what that fucking it really stuck with me because it was like I haven't stopped thinking about it because it was like at best our best player that we've signed is like nine goals a season and we've given the bloke who signed all this lot a bloody promotion and it's like oh my god like it is just like this acceptance of like I don't know if it's just like it'll be fine Everyone's like, because things were good for so long, or, you know, they were fine for so long, that we'll just carry on and it'll all be good.

58:52And we've just, like, stacked, we've spent loads of money on just, like, the biggest load of shit ever. It's like Ratners. And now we have just this squad of, like, maybe not even average players. Like, there were just some very poor players. there are some good ones but there are some really poor ones and like in terms of attack and midfield you could just get rid of the whole all of them and do better well

59:30Jack:good news about the Dortmund tickets going down to category B yeah

59:38yeah

59:38Jack:maybe you know again though you say that but it's like I'm pretty sure the Copenhagen seats were like category C or B. People just don't want to turn up and watch it anymore. Well, it's expensive, mate. It's expensive. Everyone's skinned. It's expensive. Why haven't the club got in the memo? Why have you just been in stagnation for, what, 10 years now? You know, everyone is skinned. Everyone is skinned. But Tottenham aren't. Tottenham are very much not skinned. And they're taking everybody whose money is skinned. They're taking their money and they're making them be miserable by making them watch Boggdon football.

1:00:19And people just think, I just go there whenever I go. We share a season ticket. I just go there. And I'm just angry at it now. I used to go there. I used to be excited. I was at the Wolves game before. And when we equalised, I was just pissed off. I was pissed off because we'd snatched a draw. because we were so bad. We were so bad. We didn't deserve anything. I thought, now you're going to feel like you've earned something. You've not earned anything. You're not going to learn your lesson. And they didn't learn their lesson, and I'm sick of them.

1:00:52Jack:Well, you've certainly not had your Weetabix this morning, have you, Oliver? I'm not even sponsored by them, and I'm giving them a plug, even with their brand. But, well, I hope you've at least found this cathartic. Is there anything else you want to talk about? Anything else you want to moan about? Fucking loads of stuff. I should do some work. Yeah. All right. Well, cheers for that, Oli. Thanks for coming on. I do appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for coming on. Pleasure. And you're going to... Don't think it's plug the Patreon bit. You've got to do the Patreon. I was going to say, don't you want to plug another podcast?

1:01:32Yes. Listen to Hometown Glory with my darling, beautiful woman, Rosa Anderson, leading the way. they're recording tonight supposedly are they going to be more cheerful

1:01:42Jack:how is are you and Rosa seeing eye to eye on this oh no she's a bloody happy she's like oh everything's nice she's a bit of a happy clapper I mean she has to live with me she probably just has to lie to herself cheer herself up a bit saying everything's fine no she's not as angry as me but few people are I saw she had one of a she had a bit of a fume tweet about the managers making comments about the the fans and all that type of stuff. So, you know, that's pretty, that's pretty. Just keep working on it, mate. Keep working on it. And, she'll be holding the other side of the Frank out banner with you.

1:02:22Jack:Exactly. The next game. Today is the poo. Uh, yeah. Listen to hometown glory. It's really good. One of my favorite pods. So, do that. And thank you very much, Ollie. Much love, mate. Bye. Bye. Bye.

1:03:03Jack:We'll be right back. less time slathering on aloe lotion. You're welcome. Columbia, engineered for whatever.

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