REACTION: Arsenal 4-1 Spurs | Tottenham Take a NLD Battering - Frank In Trouble?

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1:47Yeah. As a scoring a goal, right? As a scoring a last minute winner, something like that. Would have been painful and it would have been sort of the, the narrative that we could have seen happening. The fact that he's, he's genuinely scored a hat trick in this one is just, it's just mad. And it completely plays into what I've said on here before that as Tottenham Hotspur fans, we are living in hell. We have done something, be it in this life or a previous one whatever you choose to believe that has seen us now residing in some sort of layer of hell and so we have to endure this type of thing we have to endure obvious obviously obviously the guy that mugged us off in summer to sign for them score a hat-trick against us first hat-trick in a north london derby i think they said since the 70s but that's not the real story here that's that's not the real as has done that arsler have done that to us it is what it is but the the real story here is once again this is another game against the team with should we say should we say a game of some profile that's the way i put it on Twitter a game of some profile so the Chelsea game before this the Arsenal game now another game where Thomas Frank has approached has approached this match and clearly has just been thinking how can we stop the opposition how can we stop what the opposition do and whatever it is that he intends Tottenham's identity to be whatever it is that he apparently wants us to be displaying on the pitch, just gets completely sidelined.

3:50He gets completely sidelined as we switch our formation completely to mimic one that he implemented at Burnley, at Burnley, at Brentford. Same difference, isn't it? Tin pot club. The same formation he's done at Brentford, again, when he plays bigger sides.

4:16And just did what? What was it? Any time, any sort of, the slightest chance that we had when we were in possession, what were we actually doing with it? What had they been drilled to do all week? Because every time I saw us in possession, I saw our players look terrified. I saw them look clueless. I saw them have absolutely no idea what they should be doing, how this system was supposed to be working, what they were supposed to be doing in possession of the ball. It looked like a system and a team that had been drilled entirely to stop the opposition.

4:55Now, there may be some individual culpability here. There may be a lot of this rests on the players, on their technical ability. You know, some people may say, well, what he's doing should work in principle, but we don't have the players for it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. As I said about Andropos de Coglu, and as I will say about Thomas Frank, I will say exactly the same thing. And as much as I believe, and I agree with the consensus, and I personally believe that we, yeah, we are a good few players off of having a top quality side. The players that we do have available to us are better, are better than these sort of performances, are better than what he is getting out of them, pretty much consistently.

5:40Great, you slap Copenhagen, that's good and that's fun and I'm not going to say otherwise, right? but they're a championship if not league one side and that's not some like british centric gammon bollocks it's just talking real right fc co-maigan are a nothing team they would struggle in the championship um you know and great we can we can knock a team like that about four nil great but games like this games like this against arsenal when the entire game plan is stop them is pathetic and what makes it even more pathetic is the fact that we didn't stop them they scored four goals against us um i just i'm i'm not i'm not at the point where i'm gonna sit here and say get him out i think it's done but i am at the point where you know look it's feeling to me it's feeling decidedly Nuno-esque it's it's feeling like a guy who I don't look you know I've seen a few sort of vitriolic takes about him people calling him all sorts of swear words all this type of thing I don't have that feeling towards Thomas Frank I don't have that feeling towards him I think he seems like a nice guy I think he seems like a good guy the same way I felt about Nuno it feels you know I think it feels it feels quite uncomfortable and it feels quite unfair to see people abusing him and saying all these sorts of things about his character and stuff, which I don't agree with.

7:12I think just quite simply, the truth of the matter is, as it was with Nuno, I just don't think this guy has taken the step up. I don't think he has. And I'm not saying he's incapable of doing it. I'm not saying that maybe in a few months' time, Thomas Frank won't have gotten a swing of things. But right now, what we are seeing from Thomas Frank is a guy who is managing Tottenham Hotspur Football Club as if we are Brentford. And whatever games like today show us, whatever Arsenal fans want to talk about us, whatever Chelsea fans want to say about us, that's their prerogative as rival fans. They can say whatever they want.

7:54But I know and most of you know as Spurs fans, we are better than this. We do have principles that should be adhered to. And Thomas Frank needs to learn that quickly. He needs to learn that quickly and he needs to look like he is managing to handle this step up. Because right now, he looks lost. He looks lost.

8:22And I feel this so strongly today. I don't really want to go in on any of the players. I don't really look at that and think like, God, the players really let him down today. Yeah, there was a bit of a, I would say there was a lack of fight overall. I think there was some sloppy decision-making. I feel like for their, which goal was it? Was it, yeah, the third goal, they scored straight after halftime. We just, we looked like we hadn't come out of the blocks. It looked like the players were all over the shop. I think we picked up the ball outside our own box, looked like we didn't know what we wanted to do with it.

9:00But to me, that comes back to the manager. That comes back to the manager, his coaching team, whoever it is, and whatever it is they've been doing all week, has either not translated or has not been effective. It's not been a tangible or well-thought-out plan. because there is absolutely nothing, nothing that Spurs did today that I can put a positive spin on. Absolutely nothing. We scored a wonder goal out of nowhere. Richarlison scored a wonder goal. Well done. A consolation goal on what? The 60th minute? And that's what it was and that's what we all knew it was. We scored that goal and there was no kind of like concerted effort to go forwards, to stick it to Arsenal, to go for them.

9:48And I know it. a good team I know they're a good team they're top of the table they're gonna win the league this year they are just deal with that like they are they are going to they've probably already won the league it's early to be saying that they've won it we know they've won it you know it the truth is staring you in the face they've won the league already come to terms with it right they're a good side they're the best side in the country they play horrible football it's a real disgusting way to win the league, kicking, fouling, cheating the way they do, going down, screaming, holding their faces, all this stuff.

10:25It's the lowest form of football. And it all comes from that stinking rat Arteta in charge of their club. It's him personified. It is exactly him, a disgusting little man, but they're going to win. That disgusting little man is going to win the league and they're going to do it. And they are a good side, but that doesn't mean that we should be, as a rival side, it doesn't mean we should be approaching games like that against them. They never did that with us. They never did that when we had Kane Son, Ericsson, Ali, all those players when we were miles better than them. We had a decade of being a better side than them.

11:01And every single North London derby still, they came for us. They tried to give us a game. And Thomas Frank has gone into that and thought, how can we, what's damage limitation here? And it's pathetic. It's pathetic. There is absolutely no positives from today. Not only did we get battered by Arsenal just as a match, just as a game of association football. There is absolutely nothing that Tottenham Hotspur Football Club did today that is worthy of any sense of pride, that hints at any kind of green shoots, that is any kind of silver lining, nothing. Absolutely nothing. It was a game completely devoid of promise, devoid of joy.

11:53Just terrible. We might as well have not even shown up. We might as well have just forfeited the game, giving them three points. A pathetic, meek, nothing performance in what is supposed to be one of our biggest games in the season. It's an absolutely abysmal reflection on Thomas Frank, on the club, on everything, on the squad building we've been doing for the past few years. The fact that, and I say it again, and people are probably getting bored of hearing it, But the fact we could have had that Pochettino team and we've allowed it, Daniel Levy and the people that run the club have allowed it to become the sort of thing that it is today.

12:33And I know football's cyclical, but what was our cycle? Our cycle was we were building towards being a really good side and then we just couldn't be asked. And then we just let it fall to pieces and picked up whatever bargain player we could along the way. Richarlison and this sort of thing hoping that we'll sum it's just it's terrible it's terrible it's all coming to a head right at least we got the Europa League last year brilliant you know wonderful wonderful times wonderful memory but if things if things don't change in a big way if if the Lewis family are not serious and Antoine Semenya right he's there Antoine Semenya is there There is a£65 million, but David Ornstein has obviously been told by Semenya's agent, right, that there is a£65 million release clause in his contract.

13:26If we're not going for him now, so that come January time, as soon as the transfer window opens, he is ready to sign for our club. The Lewis family are not serious. They're not. Manchester City, Liverpool, whoever else might come in and swoop him. And if those teams do, there's a high chance we're not going to be able to sign him. Because, you know, let's be honest, it's the pecking order. But if we are not in the conversation, if we are not already smashing down Bournemouth's door, trying to get him in, what are we doing? What are they doing? And I'm saying this from the perspective of, right, this is a new ownership that said, we want to do things differently.

14:06we want to change the perception of Tottenham blah blah blah blah blah blah blah all that stuff they've been saying well there's a player exactly of the sort of quality that we need that is attainable for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club who would give our forward line a lift do it no messing about no messing about anymore do it, get it sorted

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16:02We're going to take this city back. In an all new season, now streaming only on Disney+. They're hunting us. It's time we started hunting them. I can work with them. This should be tons of fun. Marvel Television's Daredevil, born again, now streaming only on Disney+. It's just awful. It's an awful afternoon, awful performance. Perfect, perfect weekend for Arsenal. Perfect weekend for them. you know they've won it they've done it James Reid says how close are we to seeing the corner flag um words it's not usually the corner flag with us James it's the emblem on the side of the stadium isn't it uh words are not forthcoming for how insipid that was Frank out Ricochet Pig says when will the players and manager grasp the importance of this fixture yeah I mean this is the thing right we're all very good we're very good as a club at doing these like and I said this before and I get it I know this is one of those things where you're going to think I'm a gammon or whatever but we love doing these sort of promo videos this time this time around we've done we got AJ Tracy roped in and we've done a tune and all that sort of stuff for the for the North London derby we seem to flip between what they do is they do one of the old school stirring ones for the gammons and the old farts and then they do like another one which will be geared towards younger people.

17:30They seem to flip-flop between that with the creative at Spurs. That's what we're always doing. That's what most football clubs are doing, balancing between that. So it's nothing to do with the creative. I'm not being a gammon going on about Spurs using AJ Tracy, nothing like that. I'm simply talking about the fact that Spurs love to, we love to produce a promo ahead of North London Derby, right? And I understand it. That's what football is. It's a PR exercise. It's a big marketing exercise. That's what the whole game is now right it's all about being flashy it's all about being wwe all that type of stuff right boxing all this type of thing right we we're kind of we're leaning into like the american trappings of sport the spectacle around sport not just the game itself and so i understand why our club is going to utilize like one of the biggest games in the season to to go for it but do you know what you know somebody like vinai who is supposedly coming in that is supposed to be somebody that is going to really be able to, you know, sense the temperature in the fan base, right?

18:28Really get, really get a sense check, finger on the pulse, right? Why can't every now and again, ahead of one of these games, we just do nothing. We don't hype it up. We don't say, this is us. This is our streets. This game is everything. This is what it means. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All that type of like, all those like mawkish platitudes that we do in these stupid videos when we turn out insipid performance after performance after performance in this game why not why don't we just focus as a club on actually treating these games seriously going into them properly stop with all the chat go into one of these games and actually i'm not saying go and win at the emirates it's a hard place to go and win also i actually don't lose many games at the emirates really they only seem to lose to aston villa or brighton um but they don't really lose many games at the emirates but why can't we at least why can't we at least at least put some fighting in these games and i know i'm sounding whingy and whiny but i'm i'm tired of it man i'm 40 years old like i've seen us do this year after year after year year after year of us just not playing of us just showing up there and okay you know okay you're gonna score Oh, you want to win?

19:46Oh, give us a chance. It's just pathetic. It's awful. But yeah, great. We've got these promos and stuff that we do where we talk about how much it means to us and how this means everything. And, you know, North London is ours and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, do you know what? I'll tell you what I'd rather the club do. I'd rather the club looked at us and thought, God, you know what, actually? They've spent hundreds of millions of pounds. And do you know what, actually? when you sort of compare like our earnings and all that type of stuff, profit loss and everything, actually the clubs are on a sort of on an even footing nowadays.

20:22So if they're spending hundreds of millions of pounds every single year and actually now getting to the top of the table, maybe we could do that. Why don't we do that actually instead? No, no, no, no, no. Actually, no, no. Let's just, let's just do another video before a North London derby. Let's do another video before a North London derby capitulation. No, no, no, no. We don't want any of this spending money. We don't want any of this sort of going out and saying we're going to, you know, try and challenge for the league or anything like that. No, no, no. Less of that talk here. Let's just always go into most fixtures like this and always with that sense of, well, it's going to be tough.

20:58We need to respect the opposition. And Frank was doing that in the pre-match presser to this, but he's not the only one that's done that pretty much every single year and as much as I dug him out Poster Coglu was one of the only ones that didn't really do that um he just didn't know how to manage a football team ultimately he had he had good chat but you know whatever I'm not getting into that one again um because I see the comments are already full of like bro you wanted Anja out you know I just um Benedict Fox says I am a petty and weak man but this was it for Frank and me. This was not only a cowardly setup, but a tactically bad one.

21:39He now has a stink on him who won't come off. Sasha Foso says, absolutely hideous. Every year, the same thing. Only these days we get done at home against them as well. It's like the early 2000s again. I switched off after the third um we've got another one from big y 1604 says thought the zero xg against chelsea was the absolute bottom of the barrel but trust us to somehow be even worse against arsenal um beat plate of all the abysmal emirates performances down the years this was the nadir what was the plan i'm done with frank already wrong fit for tottenham i mean the thing is like going back to what benedict fox said there and kind of touching on what beat plate is saying here i'm not you know i'm not i'm not sat here trying to contradict it i'm not sat here saying just give him time allow him to do well the the thing for me is right nuno right nuno early doors we knew was not right for this club we knew he wasn't right he was a lovely bloke he's doing a decent job for West Ham now he's you know always he's pretty much done a decent he's done a very good job at Forest you know he does a good job in most places he went but he just he could not handle the pressure the size of the club that Tottenham Hotspur are right it's feeling like that early doors for Thomas Frank already the difference is there isn't an out of contract Antonio Conte breathing down his neck some people said Xavi bring him in I'm pretty sure one of the big issues that people had with Xavi when they were talking about Xavi Hernandez when people were talking about him in summer is that the type of football he plays is not the type of football we want at Spurs so what we get rid of Frank and we bring in a fellow who plays again a similar type of football I don't know I don't know about that there isn't for me there isn't a fit there isn't a candidate what happens you know do we wait for after the World Cup and get Pochettino back I don't know like is that is that the win that i think vinoy van kateshin thinks he maybe has do we give it one more chance do we give jefe one more chance he seemingly seemingly is starting to turn it around like he had his characteristically bad pochettino start with the usa that is seemingly starting to change a little bit now um i don't know i might get it i'm i'm sat i'm sat here in 2025 still pining after pochettino and i probably will be in 2026 but i just you know there's narrative behind it there's like is the one more is the one more one more rodeo here well i don't know why it's a rodeo but it's a one more opportunity here for pochettino and topnum to do something is that is that you know um i don't know but who else who else comes in who else comes in a lot of people want oliver glasner when i was talking about oliver glasner on here a few weeks ago um i really do apologize but somebody on blue sky gave me a pretty you know compelling reason as to why oliver glasner would not be a good fit at tottenham and it seemingly like if i'm going to distill it into a layman's proper football man way the point he was is that he basically plays the same sort of football that Thomas Frank plays, really.

25:14But is this what football is now, you know? Is this what it is? If Thomas Frank, if Spurs go mad, if Spurs go mad in January, and we do bring in Semenyo and Elliot Anderson or, you know, Wharton or somebody like that, right? And suddenly it looks like Thomas Frank's got better players at his disposal.

25:40does he start to get a tune out of him do we suddenly all of a sudden do we start looking better as a football team I don't know I really don't know

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26:05Alan Tucker 1911 says just awful i should be annoyed by that result but i'm left with a kind of numb desolation late conte era levels of emotional detachment from spurs a side that inspires no optimism or joy

26:24um wilson t6303 says frank played 532 instead of 352 big difference frank will never last here need to get used to it. Top Spurs H says, we've gone there with a formation and evidently a mentality of a small team. Yes, Arsenal are a very good side, but going to a North London derby with such a deferential approach is pitiful. Phil Mayo 3, we were uncompetitive in a North London derby. Entirely uncompetitive. It beggars belief that people can be defending this. jack underhill 444 says chin up lads we got an r9 worldy um 200 napkins says dearie dearie me taking all bets how many more times are we going to say that was the worst performance of the season i think we'll say it nine more times kugo 8760 gutless performance and there were some folks warning us about frank from the very beginning he's got to go ben matthias hello mate says get him gone the who's as a comment to serve that oh god i forgot about that oh god i forgot about that doesn't really matter it doesn't make it any better does it but uh yeah frank ahead of this in the pre-match presser when they they basically somebody said to him are you gutted to have missed out on Eze.

27:54It's going to be a bit awkward facing him. And it was quite uncharacteristic for him. And I think he's a bit rattled by people calling him boring all the time. Did this whole kind of cringy, who, who, you know, thing. And I was just like, now, like, that was whoever it was. I think it was haters or somebody that posted it out. Obviously, the comments are all full of Arsenal fans being like, I'm desperate for an essay masterclass after this one. It's got shades of that, whoever that pirate one, Bully, whose name is Harry Kane. I can't believe it. A non-nomad. Feels like we're back in 2004. Team is just nowhere in terms of potential and direction.

28:45Echo Sonic Music. only started watching 10 minutes in and thought we'd had two players sent off given how many goon players there seemed to be swarming around the hours um scott essa says zero or darest fakir again um he's not the one

29:04callum 5252 nice guy but all that talk of playing um no risk is a risk was just utter tripe, wasn't it? Coward. Get him gone. Soul Sniper Gaming. The issue is midfield. Simple. Paulini and Bentancur sell. Time to play Bergwijn and Gray. Look, Bentancur, I cannot believe we gave him a new contract. I genuinely can't believe it. A long-term contract at that. I can't believe it. I can't believe we've done that. the guy is like not been fit for purpose for at least a season and a half great he has flashes of brilliance because he was once a good player that player has since had two serious knee injuries he he just he does not have the dynamism the physicality or just the the quickness of thought to occupy the centre of midfield for a Premier League side that has these aspirations of challenging.

30:13Like, it's just ridiculous. And I know I said I wasn't going to go for the players, but he is one player that really stood out for me today as just being a coward. A player that was a performance minus the sort of hand-waving and pointing and berating his teammates that was absolutely reminiscent of Pierre-Emil Hojbjerg. Just absolutely hid. Never offered himself up as an option. Didn't get stuck in. Never looked to play anything meaningful. Nothing. An absolute coward's performance. Pat Matassar had to start this game. He had to start this game.

30:56James Forster 6882 says, Shambles that was. Question marks on the manager. Biggest concern is the identity of Frank's team. It's a whole lot of nothing. They seem to try to snatch us that piece. Yep.

31:16Brian Park, 6906. 0.1 xG against Chelsea. 0.7 xG today against the Scum. This feels very Nuno. James Forster also saying reminds me of Nuno at Spurs Ben Mathis fought open play goals Deary Meek God they were all open play as well weren't they Mr Stephen Stotch says I can accept if they were better than us but yet another London derby under Frank and we play like that we're not hard to beat like people say and we're terrible going forwards get Harry Redknapp back I don't know about that and on Nomad said it's so funny Arsenal the team that only scores set piece goals scored four open play goals against us

32:13James Nicholson says Frank is a nice guy but he's out of his depth never going to work