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Rule The Roost - A Tottenham Hotspur Podcast
Episode
REACTION: Atlético Madrid 5-2 Spurs - Get Tudor GONE
Episode Overview This episode discusses a disastrous Champions League match where Tottenham Hotspur faced Atlético Madrid, resulting in a 5-2 defeat. The host, Jack, expresses frustration and disappointment, calling for the dismissal of manager Igor Tudor. The podcast captures the emotional turmoil Spurs fans are experiencing amid a series of poor performances.
Key Discussions Match Reaction
- Tudor's Decision Making
- The choice of starting goalkeeper Kinski is criticized, despite some initial support from fans for his inclusion over Vicario.
- Kinski's performance is described as a catastrophe, leading to empathy for him as a human being.
- Opening Minutes of the Match
- Spurs conceded four goals within the first 25 minutes, prompting discussions about the team's depth of despair.
- The phrase "there's a new bottom" is used to illustrate the ongoing struggles of the team.
Call for Change
- Tudor's Tenure
- Jack argues that Tudor must be relieved of his duties as the team is clearly not responding to his management style.
- Suggestions are made for Ryan Mason to take over as an interim manager until the end of the season, as he knows the club well.
- Squad Issues
- Players are reportedly unhappy under Tudor's management, with rumors of training ground bust-ups.
- The podcast highlights the dire need for a management change to reinvigorate the squad.
Team Performance and Future Outlook
- Resilience After Conceding
- Following the disastrous start, Spurs managed to score two goals, showcasing a glimmer of fight.
- However, this effort is framed as insufficient and symptomatic of deeper issues within the squad and management.
- Plight of the Club
- The discussion touches upon the reality that Spurs are not currently a Champions League club, contradicting previous expectations.
- Concerns are raised about the team's ability to survive relegation amid ongoing mismanagement.
Audience Interaction
- The episode features listener comments and questions regarding the team's future and managerial choices.
- Fans express a range of sentiments, including desperation and exasperation, as well as humorous takes on the situation.
Conclusion
- The podcast encapsulates the current crisis at Tottenham Hotspur, emphasizing the need for immediate changes in management and strategy.
- Jack concludes with a call for fans to rally behind potential interim solutions while acknowledging the emotional toll the season has taken on supporters.
Key Takeaways
- Managerial Instability: There's a strong sentiment for Tudor's removal, with many fans backing Mason as a temporary solution.
- Squad Frustration: Reports of player dissatisfaction highlight deeper issues in team dynamics.
- Fan Sentiment: The podcast captures the emotional landscape of Spurs fans as they grapple with the team's performance and future.
Final Thoughts The episode serves as both a reaction to a specific match and a broader commentary on the state of Tottenham Hotspur, filled with humor, frustration, and a yearning for improvement.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKinski's Performance and Team Struggles
1:27 to 4:09
Discussing Kinski's challenging performance and the overall struggles of Spurs.
“Very, very, you know, bizarre occurrence.”
Tudor's Future and Potential Replacements
4:09 to 6:41
Debating whether Tudor should remain as coach and discussing potential replacements.
“And it doesn't look like the worst prediction.”
Free Hit Concept and Team Reaction
6:41 to 10:43
Exploring the idea of the match as a free hit and the team's reaction after a poor start.
“As much as, yeah, a good result here would have been a nice springboard, it would have been a decent bit of momentum, all that type of thing.”
Spurs' Challenges and Future Outlook
10:43 to 14:01
Analyzing Spurs' underlying issues and their future in the league.
“got something um I said it like heat at the moment the other day I don't even feel that heated today I felt like 4-0 down, the opening 20-odd minutes, I was heated.”
Reflections on the Team's Performance
14:01 to 15:00
Discussing the current state of the team and their upcoming match expectations.
Fan Reactions and Opinions
15:01 to 17:51
Sharing various fan opinions about the team's management and player performance.
“I mean, that's quite a number of barrings, really.”
Discussions on Player Quality and Management
19:59 to 22:34
Debating the quality of players and whether the management is to blame for recent performances.
“Ricochet Pig says they thought it would be double figures.”
Future of the Coaching Staff
22:35 to 28:00
Exploring potential changes in the coaching staff and implications for the team.
“after him tonight Tudor has to go yeah Thomas Cowie says Tudor has to go tonight and Vinay Langer need to follow him out the door no guarantees it keeps us up but if the RMS Tottenham is going down.”
Emotional Rollercoaster of a Season
28:00 to 28:30
Discussing the emotional toll of the current football season on Spurs fans.
The Unique Predicament of Spurs Fans
28:30 to 30:00
Exploring the unique challenges Spurs fans face compared to other clubs.
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Creating a Home Atmosphere at the Stadium
30:00 to 33:20
Debating how to improve the atmosphere at Spurs' stadium to feel more welcoming.
“And on Nomad says, so you hate the stadium with good reason.”
Debating Manager Tudor's Future
33:20 to 35:00
A discussion about the potential consequences of keeping manager Tudor.
“Sam Statham says, Outsider's view, if you don't suck him tonight, he's going to start working his way through Jimmy's tricks from Better Course Soul Season 2.”
Critique of Club Management Decisions
37:00 to 42:00
Analyzing the questionable management decisions by Spurs' leadership.
“look at him man look at his track record Like, you imagine him 15 games into next season.”
Levy's Management Decisions and Their Impact
42:04 to 43:09
Discusses Daniel Levy's management style and decisions regarding coaches.
“Levy was, that's where Levy had smarts at least.”
Fan Reactions and Calls for Change
43:10 to 44:51
Explores various fan opinions on player performance and coaching changes.
“I think he also knew how to sort of mix it down at the bottom end.”
Humor and Lighthearted Banter Among Fans
44:52 to 46:53
Showcases humorous exchanges and gallows humor among fans discussing the team's struggles.
“James Regal Comedy says, can you just say Ricochet Pig over and over again for 20 minutes to cheer us up?”
Future Plans and Listener Engagement
46:54 to 49:24
Discusses upcoming podcast episodes and encourages listener participation.
“name was jimmy wriggle as in like i think it's just the way gal was saying it wriggle as in like Mr.”
Transcript
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1:20Um, so, that was quite something, wasn't it? Where do we begin?
1:33Kinski, I guess. I feel for the kid. I feel for him.
1:42Very, very, you know, bizarre occurrence. Those goals.
1:51Look, I know people are going to do the whole he's a professional footballer stuff and all that type of thing. Yeah, okay, fine, but he is also a human being. A bit woke, I know, but he is a human being, and I'd imagine he's probably not feeling great at the moment. So I do feel for him, particularly unpleasant kind of thing, the way in which it played out, didn't it? You know, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to pretend that I wasn't happy to see him start. over Vicario.
2:32So, you know, my point is I'm not going to sit here and be like, what was Tudor doing, starting him? You know, I was up for it. And I think if a lot of people are being honest, many people were quite up for seeing him in goal tonight. But it was an absolute catastrophe, wasn't it? So you've got to feel for the lad. You've got to feel for the lad on a human level.
2:58just that the opening stages of that game 4-0 in that fashion it's just kind of crazy isn't it that Spurs even when we're like even when we're like we think we're at the bottom if you like there's a new bottom we managed to sort of plunder like further depths
3:28and you know that's it's kind of worrisome it's kind of worrisome when you when you sort of think and it is it's very mick mccarthy isn't it's very mick mccarthy meme can't get any worse it can kind of thing
3:48i just think all bets are off with anything now you know we sort of we we kind of Have jokingly, half jokingly really, I think there's an air of sincerity about it. But we've half jokingly been saying for a while now, I don't think we're going to win another game this season.
4:09And it doesn't look like the worst prediction.
4:19Hottest take. Tudor's just got to go. He's got to go. he didn't he didn't even look at Kinski when he came off the pitch there was a weird little thing when he took Jed Spence off when he's Jed Spence made an effort made like a big concerted effort to go tap Tudor on the shoulder and shake his hand when he came when he brought him off the pitch just what we're doing here do you know I mean like Tudor he's just gotta go and I know people are tossing around a lot of names and this and that. I think really the only realistic option that we can get at this short notice who loves the club, knows the club, and yet it's not always the best, but I trust is Mason.
5:09I think now just bringing Mason to the end of the season. I think Daesh, I've heard, here's my things. I heard some people say Dyche. I think that's too wrought with just probably issues trying to get it across the line. I think it's, you know, he's a, to pay him an air of respect, he's a serious Premier League manager still. I know we sort of all kind of meme him a bit, but he is still a Premier League manager. I don't think he's in a position where he's going to want to come and just be Tottenham's interim gaffer. So I don't, I just don't think that one's very realistic. I know we sort of floated the idea of Harry Redknapp coming in, but the guy's 79.
6:02He's been retired for almost a decade. He's literally going on, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. All stars, I think. So I don't even know if he's going to be available. And doesn't that tell you something? Like if you're having to question, like we're talking about Tottenham staying in the Premier League if we're talking about having to like battle between a television schedule for some naff reality TV show that throws into question whether or not he's going to be available to be our gaffer I mean come on man Mason's just there, just get him in let's just do it we'll go down in a blaze of Mason infamy at least I just think that's I think that's the way it's got to be but two doors got to go it's just not it's obviously not working I'm not even pretending to be an ITK or anything but it's the world's worst kept secret that the players aren't having him there's bust ups on the training ground you see it open up Twitter you'll see plenty of people talking about it bust ups on the training ground apparently players not having him this and that the other it's just it's not happening you know second press conference is coming out already doing the big sort of all this problems here stuff mate you you're just here to to be a firefighter you're here to keep tottenham up in the premier league can the sort of like pound land conte act nobody needs to hear that nobody needs to hear the there's problems that spurs us we all know that everybody knows that already that's literally why you have a job here you know so get on with that as opposed to sort of this stuff it's just it's look we can we can be honest here right we've tried to sort of bright side it we try to sort of get behind it it's a disaster and you can see it already we look worse now than we did under frank um it's not a thing just get mason in just get mason in i mean look the the this is what i I said to the lads on WhatsApp, right, during that, is one of the most damning things you can say of Igor Tudor, is that tonight, let's be honest, right?
8:18As much as, yeah, a good result here would have been a nice springboard, it would have been a decent bit of momentum, all that type of thing. Really, it was a free hit. And I know one of the big themes at the moment that a lot of people are talking about is the use of the term free hit. There shouldn't be any free hits. There's no free hits at this point. And I actually agree with that. I get that point. But also on a level, we're not going to win the Champions League, much as we joke about it, right? Tonight was a free hit. And yet we've turned a free hit into another crisis. it's become another farcical example of just how dysfunctional and poor this team are how poor the you know but i say this right the point i wanted to move on to and i i feel like i've got to say this now because i've just said the other bit is that and this this is something that was picked up in like the commentary is that we had that freakish opening 25 minutes go 4-0 down and it's horrific and at that point I'm sat there thinking genuinely this is going to be 10 because when when when they got the fourth it looked like Spurs's heads were completely down and it was done and there was literally going to be like a monumental record-breaking score this evening but the team did actually rally and played pretty well yeah it took them being four nil down but they did actually play pretty well from that point um scored a couple of good goals you have to to a degree temper your reaction to the goals because you know have atletico let the standards dip a little bit because they were so far out ahead all that type of thing maybe maybe but we still scored the goals Slanky's finish was decent so you know there's there's something there at least but again you know it shouldn't take it shouldn't take being 4-0 down to show some fight to show that you've got something um I said it like heat at the moment the other day I don't even feel that heated today I felt like 4-0 down, the opening 20-odd minutes, I was heated.
10:54I was fuming. At that point, I was thinking, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do the post-match or anything like that. But I've actually cooled down. Ooh, you're hard. Cooled down over the course of over the game. So here I am. And, you know, I've sort of lost my chain of thought. But.
11:20it's just, it's, it's a mad one, it's mad that Spurs are, are in this place, and,
11:31I just, I still, we are bad, the players, are bad, in a mental sense, in a, whatever, oh, Mickey Van Der Ven, that was, that's the point I was going to make, um, Mickey Van Der Ven, I just, I just I think let's just move past him like let's just not use him for the rest of the season he's not he's not in this I think he is one of the biggest examples of a player that's just not in it and I just don't I don't want to see him playing for Spurs I don't you know I don't like you know the things I see about him that you know are apparent the way he's been conducting himself behind the scenes and I don't like the way we see him conduct himself on the pitch.
12:25It's as simple as that, you know.
12:36Spurs, ultimately though, I think the thing that I do find, you know, quite hard to reconcile what I do find difficult to wrap my head around is the fact that we aren't great. And as Charlotte said to me, this has highlighted the fact that we just simply aren't a Champions League club. And that's true. I know all the talk was Spurs snuck in through the back door by winning the Europa League. I don't quite believe that. I don't know why winning the Europa League is considered more of a back door them finishing you know third fourth or fifth in your domestic league for example um but either way you know we didn't have a good season last year the squad's a bit all over the place there hasn't been enough done to address the problems of the squad or anything like that um you know i think it was all treated as a bit of a laugh as being in the champions league this year and however i I don't know how we've done it, but we completely defied expectations in that group stage.
13:46But yeah, nights like tonight show you, yeah, you know, these sort of fanciful ideas. We might go down, but win the Champions League. I mean, it's, come on, it's pure fantasy. It's pure fantasy. It's, you know, we just got to like, got to get a grip. we've got to get a grip and we've got to get a point at Anfield get a point at Anfield beat Forest and then suddenly it all looks better you know can't rest can't rest at that point but it looks better
14:26I just I don't see how it's this bad though
14:33really I just you know
14:39I don't I don't think I don't feel like I don't think the players are great don't get me wrong but I don't feel like the players are as bad as we're seeing and have seen all season
14:54but maybe they just are you know that's the thing isn't it maybe maybe they just are
15:08Christopher Hall says evening Jack evening mate were you in Madrid Christopher I bet you were Jonas Milner says gonna say something I never thought but get Daishin Stel Morrison says penny for the thoughts of Maurizio yep on the plane on the plane with the Spurs fans early today which I'm you know he's done that on purpose he knows what he's doing with that in my opinion let's be honest um dan spur says i take a random fan out of the stands over igor tudor at this point um accidental tim sherwood there there dan
15:58jack underhill says barring kinski's howlers and their turf being worse and Bodo's cyber grass, we could have won that. I mean, that's quite a number of barrings, really. But let's just say, you know, we perhaps on balance after that sort of freakish opening stage weren't actually quite as bad as the scoreline made out. Zorba the Greek says, we can still win 3-0 at home. I mean, we can, you know.
16:39Chris Jones says, honestly, for all the talk of Dyche, etc., I just can't see this shower of wankers responding to anyone that gets brought in after Tudor. Maybe not.
16:55Beg your pardon. Blue Eclipse says, it can't go on like this, can it? It can. it's Grisby says call me a fool but I stayed till the end to see who would be bothered to come and clap the fans Xavi didn't Spence was forced to against his will everyone else was half-hearted I hope you're at least having fun out there it's Grisby um but that is interesting to hear and yeah that's that's not good is it but we've seen this all season haven't we've seen their whole little oh we're gonna have a little circle with the halfway line to show all the fans that we don't care well pathetic um peter gordon says tudor needs to go he has no idea how to set this team up Moani over Solanke 4-2-3-1 it's not hard HackerCPS says I had no opinion in hindsight Champions League is too big a game to cold start a keeper isn't it yeah probably Ben Matthews says anyone up for a bit of Tony Pulis not really Ben mate but I hope you enjoyed the darts anyway you were there this weekend weren't you so you know hope it was good
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20:06Ricochet Pig says they thought it would be double figures. so did I for a while.
20:14Peter Gordon says, it's such an unlikable team we've built. Yep.
20:20Peter Turner says, I hate the fact that many fans will use Kinski as a scapegoat. To be honest, for the most part, mate, I've seen a lot of fans kind of, you know, air their sympathy for him, to be honest. Um, you know, but people are, you know, people, people are going to be people, aren't they? And stuff. And, you know, I still like, if I'm being brutally honest, I, you know, I don't really think Kinski is that good. Um, I think, well, let me, let me revise that. I think Kinski is way off the standard required to step up and be number one for a team with pretenses of finishing, you know, in the Champions League places, playing in the Champions League and stuff.
21:18Which, yes, I know people will say, well, you're not that this year. So, yeah, whatever. But I don't think he's that good.
21:32Ricochet Pig also says I hope Polina and Romero are okay yeah that was a pretty rank clash of heads wasn't it not very pleasant at all Darren223 says Van de Ven get ready to learn sprinting buddy
21:55JakeM95 says it's over Robert Glemworth says Tudor has to do the honourable thing and quit I feel like I'm going insane Zeros and Wons says no Van der Ven or Romero for Liverpool yeah you can imagine that can't you I mean what's the sort of head injury protocol Romero can just jog that off can't he come on man up you know all that Alan Leslie says evening absolutely lost for words has been an explanation as to why Kinski started I hope somebody is looking after him tonight Tudor has to go yeah
22:44Thomas Cowie says Tudor has to go tonight and Vinay Langer need to follow him out the door no guarantees it keeps us up but if the RMS Tottenham is going down. I want Captains Mason and Defoe etc on the bridge. Yeah. That's it basically isn't it? Gary Bradley says this setup isn't working regardless of the result tonight and the mistakes. We are fighting for our lives. Get Mason in. Play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. Players in their best positions please. Yep. Ricochet Pig says controversial desperate suggestion. Southgate. Make the players feel good about themselves. Now, I don't know if it is Southgate.
23:35It's been hinted at that it might be, but what, you know. Well, in Henry Winter's podcast with Billy T and Ricky Sachs the other day, he said that a high profile manager turned Spurs down before Tudor because he didn't want it on his CV he didn't think the Spurs had the team for it didn't think they had the spirit for it didn't think they had any fighters I think quite a few people are putting two and two together and suggesting that that might have been Gareth Southgate that Spurs went for. I'm not sure exactly what the links are and stuff, but I've seen that put forwards. So, you know, maybe that isn't an option.
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24:42Jake42X says, Seriously, just 4-3-3, please. Goodness gracious. we know our club is rotting, just get us over the line.
24:54David Cranfield says, Tim Sherwood's pulling on his gilet as we speak. Well, I mean, he's been out on Sky or whoever it is the other day talking about the mismanagement from the people at the top. So I think that probably rules him out of getting a job with us anytime soon.
25:20deuces wild says i feel like i'm in the jed spence penitentiary just having to watch him play football um also xavi is crap how um a 10 can pass up the chance to send someone one-on-one is beyond me i just i think he's too in his own head now i you know i'm not going to sit here and say he's crap i i quite like him but i think his performances are crap he's in a crap team it's going to come back to that argument isn't it that arguably he's one of the people that's brought in to make a crap team not crap but here we are
26:02says eagle tudor a final passing gift from paratichi paul o 'kief said paratichi wanted him as a permanent boss last year it's mad isn't it
26:26isleoflilywhite says don't worry jack i've still been watching thank you good just not on the youtube apps i've not been able to comment um absolutely tudor has to go made a statement by sticking Kinski in, then bottled it at the first opportunity. Yeah.
26:48Hacker CPS says, Atalanta somehow got a worse scoreline. Yep, and that's kind of, you know, Harry Kane, Harry Kane sat on the bench as Bayern Munich scored six goals away from home. You just know he was absolutely livid. He was absolutely fuming about that. You know it, you know it.
27:09John Lacks says, I wouldn't mind a high score to get rid of Tudor as I don't think they're going to get rid. I just struggle to see how they don't after this. But then again, this is this ownership that we're talking about. So, you know. Mr. Stephen Stotch said, these players are shocking and deserve all the criticism. But why would they play for this bloke? In every aspect, he's been shocking. They need an arm around them. For Christ's sake, get Harry in. yeah
27:43Delphacronic says getting in a manager that is wedded to a back three in a league where it almost never works with a depleted squad full of bank average players is footballing suicide
27:58Stube55 says the first 20 minutes weren't even bad they were just cursed yeah you know
28:08Capote481 says you're so relaxed I'm worried you've gone into shock get a cup of tea with two sugars that was a shameful humiliating shambles yeah I'm like I say I was I was raging in the early stages and I just think you know I've just cooled down over the second half and here I am you know I'm just it's been an emotionally draining season you know I had like when it was 4-0 I had gooners and stuff in my whatsapps being like you watching the football I mean obviously I am but it's also like
28:51I don't think I know I don't mean this genuinely like even even in the pits even in the pits this we're made of different stuff Tottenham fans like and I get it and you know and I see all this I've seen lately there's been this like movement now of like fans of like bobbins clubs like Southampton and all this type of stuff being like oh why is it such big news that Spurs are in a relegation battle for the first time in the Premier League and blah blah blah who cares they're so entitled you know everybody can go down if they don't play well all that sort of thing and you're like yeah but you know it is weird don't pretend that it's not like it would be a massive story if spurs went down and whatever you want to say about spurs and your feelings on you've never won the premier league or all this type of stuff you got to consider the infrastructure the size of the club commercially speaking because we know that stuff does have some weird bearing in modern football and what have you.
30:00So it would be weird if we went down. And as much as you all act like, you know, you've had such hardships, I don't recall many clubs having things like Lasagna Gate, like Sol Campbell, like the rivals winning the league at their grounds you know that type of stuff like Chelsea winning the Champions League and denying us a place in the Champions League the next season you know there's so much of that type of stuff that you're just like this weird stuff happens to us and we just kind of take it on the chin and that's what you kind of have to do but even by those standards this season has been emotionally draining it really has been right you know this is this is quite something i just i can't i just can't be angry after every game i can't sit here and be like really angry it's you know it's not healthy dan spur also says mickey was so lucky not to be sent off that's a red in the premier it's stupid it's rash and that's kind of you know plays into why i just you know i'm sort of done with him i I just don't really want to, you know, I don't really want to see him playing for us again, to be honest with you.
31:22And on Nomad says, so you hate the stadium with good reason. But what could the club do to make the stadium feel more like home, except for binning off the NFL and lowering the ticket prices, which they'll never do? What could they do to make it feel more like home? actually work with people like return of the shelf like thfc flags and make a concerted effort to have a proper kind of broken down seating plan singing sections of not putting you know you know the other week in the north london derby when they put that whole sort of tier of, what is it, you know, like match day package fans next to the Arsenal fans.
32:09Don't do that. Put all our horrors, put all our rotters next to them. That's what you want. You want the people that are there, like, pointing over the edge, being like, outside, outside. That's what you need. People think it's unpalatable. I know it's, you know, it's not in keeping with the trappings of modern football and all that type of thing, but that's what football is. that's what you need you know there is an ugly side to the passion to the energy of football there is it's not an english disease as much as it's called it's around the entire world football the passion the intensity of it always walks that fine line between you know being excited about a game and wanting to hurt people that support the opposite team so you need that you need to get that needle back in there get horrors next to the away fans get that single tier stand actually doing what they said it was going to be is get a singing section in there not a strip of corporate seats throughout it don't sell match day packages to tourists in it that needs to be Spurs fans that want to be there that want to sing that want to make noise that want to create that wall of noise you know so that's that's you know big things that they can do from the off um jake m says i knew we'd lost that as soon as i saw tudor eating a scotch egg out of his pocket he wasn't doing that was he tudor wasn't eating a scotch egg out of his pocket was he please tell me that's not true um vim fuego says i can clearly see now the rain has gone i can see clearly now the rain has gone uh supremely relaxed over this result expect a plague of locusts to anfield or the mersey to turn red hacker cps says xavi was crying did you notice I'm not really bothered to be quite honest with you.
34:18Sam Statham says, Outsider's view, if you don't suck him tonight, he's going to start working his way through Jimmy's tricks from Better Course Soul Season 2. But he's furious he didn't get to the AFC Cup debacle first.
34:39Lots of people debating the Scotch Egg gate. I don't know if that's true. I know this is not true, but I'm going to have a look now.
34:57No. No results on Twitter for Igor Tudor scotch egg, unsurprisingly. But, you know, you got me.
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36:34Terms and conditions apply. Antonio Sanessa says good evening still not liking or even understanding his back three Tudor should go now for everyone's sake might even have made it worse on the pitch and in the dressing room some achievement Wiz Comrade says Roberto De Zerbi rumours no I don't want him anywhere near the club we're not in a place that can handle look at him man look at his track record Like, you imagine him 15 games into next season. If we stay up and the season continues the way this one's ended, if we pour over into the next year and it's terrible again, he'll be kicking off like no time.
37:18He's a poisonous, toxic character. Don't want him anywhere near the club. The club doesn't need that. We don't, I'm astonished that they're going anywhere near him right now. It's mad. But again, nothing should surprise me. Nothing should surprise anybody about this ownership and their just complete lack of just knowing how to do anything.
37:44Akeem Lewis says, three of their goals from our player slipping like Charlie Brown. Copian, but really unfortunate. Yep, to a degree. Gary Bradley says, Xavi can piss off. He literally sums up our problems. A social media player brought in and played in a key position, despite the fact he's been dreadful all season. Tall Tart says, keep saying it. I'm not blaming the players. They've been totally confused by three crap managers in a row. Tudor out. Nearly anyone else would be better. Coise. Samuel Patterson says, people in charge of the club are completely inept. show ruthlessness with levy and have no plan afterwards yet let this current squad building happen with langer at the helm clueless yeah it's mad isn't it it is mad it's mad
38:43ben mathis who went to the uk darts open in minehead says uh they enjoyed it it was good aside for luke littler winning again boring who are you rooting for mate a bit of go in price
39:01give it Ryan Searle for me heavy metal legend Joseph Bradley says that first 20 minutes was like Newcastle away all over again yeah my absolute car crash thanks for the therapy just gonna listen we're so you know effed can't see the light at the end of the tunnel yeah sober to Greek like we've got to remember this says it's not over till it's over spirit of ix 2019 you know my good friend tommy miller says mate and then lots of exasperated smileys tommy you know you weren't you know you were i had tommy on and he spoke to me about he got tudor and everything and you know I know you were trying to do right by him you were trying to sort of bright side it but you were also you know I know you were quite lukewarm about it and yeah here we are Mr Wignall says I rarely laugh at Spurs but tonight was genuinely hilarious it's like watching a bunch of amateurs sipping and sliding into oblivion it's amazing how we keep plumbing the depths of embarrassment yeah he said it in much more erudite fashion than I was capable of as I bumbled through that at the beginning by just saying things like, you know, I can't believe we've done that.
40:30Well, I can believe we've done that. But, you know, insert cultural reference here. I can't believe we've done that. Wait, what was I saying? And then move on.
40:50Chetan Lakhani says the halftime jam on was the highlight of the game I saw that somebody had like a platter didn't they when I was like pig legs and bread um Murray 27 says first season without Levy and this happens for all his faults I think it's underestimated the impact he had yeah but he he also he also was an architect of this i've heard this a bit and i don't i don't entirely disagree with you marion i'm not singling you out here i'm just using obviously your comment as the springboard for this part of the discussion but i i am seeing this a lot i'm hearing this a lot a few of the different pods are saying yeah levy wouldn't have let us get into this position I mean we did finish 17th last year
41:38Levy has pretty much been in charge of the club for the past two decades this has come to a head I think the main thing he would have done is he would have been more decisive in getting rid of Frank he would have gotten rid of Frank sooner and I don't think he would have gone for Tudor I think he would have gone straight in with a Dyche or somebody like that. Levy was, that's where Levy had smarts at least. He wasn't overly a football man, but I think he knew just enough. And I think he had enough of an understanding. Like when we brought Redknapp in, when Juan de Ramos went, he brought in Redknapp.
42:19And I remember at first, when they first brought in Harry Redknapp, because he stunk of West Ham. and he was just always seen as a bit of a two bob chancer really you know really i mean i know done some good things but nobody was really that fond of the idea and then suddenly we were like i see it i see what he was doing i get it like this this works rednap and rednap was class for us yeah we had an incredible squad but he played to its strengths and he knew how to play to its strengths and it was great my point is that you know Levy would have just done up he would have he would have binned off Frank and he would have brought in a dice or somebody like that he would have had no airs and graces about doing that um as much as he had an ego for you know he would he had that clamoring for a Chazé Mourinho.
43:17I think he also knew how to sort of mix it down at the bottom end. But, you know, it is what it is. And I still think he is largely to blame for the situation we find ourselves in right now as well.
43:35Robert Glemworth says, pathetic interview from Igor Tudor just now on TNT. He's refusing to speak. couldn't be less of a statesman would you take Ange until the end of the season he can get these boys revved up no I wouldn't there's too much baggage with all that no not for me Thomas Mullen says fan of 60 years we need to play the kids and get rid of these players rip up their contracts play the kids get Robbie Keane in now should have been in months ago you'll win nothing with English players
44:13I don't know if Keane's going to want to come in and be our interim I think he's as good as he's said that already
44:23so you know but I'm not against playing the kids we've got to do something hasn't we haven't we K9 McGurmon says and I'm sorry to hear this said i went to visit my dying grandfather and watched the game on my phone on the ride home ride home was bleaker than the visit
44:51i am sorry to hear that even if you are adopting gallows humor to talk about that um yeah
45:02john lax says if i'll still win the treble and we get relegated i'm giving up football and watching cricket i mean if you're english john did you see the ashes latest ashes i mean that wasn't that funny there was a that's me kind of trying to like chime in i've got a tenuous appreciation of of cricket my dar and my mum are proper into it they always have been but it's not i don't know i don't mind i like i quite i you know i stick it on that's the thing i stick it on when there's big test matches on or something like that i'll stick it on and have it on in the background while i'm working or whatever but i don't have that like passion for it just a football cretin um reggae squirrel says 14 goals in four games with Liverpool and the Atletico's second leg on the horizon.
46:03James Regal Comedy says, can you just say Ricochet Pig over and over again for 20 minutes to cheer us up? Ricochet Pig. It's a brilliant name. It's one of my favourites. One of my favourites to come on here. um james regal who he was you you might know him for his work on the fighting cock quiz a couple of years ago there was an epic clash between him and connor suckling which was yeah it was it was quite a sight to to behold or well an audio something to behold a sound a sound to behold that's the word i was looking for isn't it um but i always thought his name was jimmy wriggle as in like i think it's just the way gal was saying it wriggle as in like Mr.
47:04Riggle, Wrigley Worm kind of thing, but it's actually James Regal. It's much more grandiose than that. I've got Jimmy on the pod in a couple of days' time, so tweet me any questions or any talking points for that, and I'll make sure James or Jimmy, depends, but I think James, I'll go by the name he's given here. we'll talk about them we'll talk we'll answer your questions um lordspur says what has austin done to be looked over for kinski um also had a kid keely playing on loan orient who's now at luton when we saw on kinski and he's really good he's really really really good really annoying adam mickey who i had on the other day who's also an Orient fan was going on about how good Keeley is um so you know frustrating Edelfand says that was horrible see you soon good night from Hamburg in Germany good night my friend Jack Benson said you said it after the West Ham game if we can't beat a struggling West ham side at home who are we going to be the answer is nobody of course yeah
48:31and uh lord spurs says a question for james will be what do you think of our new manager well we'll answer that we'll answer that in a couple of days time um look spurs spurs continue to be mad don't they they continue to do mad things and act in the way that they have done for most of the season um so yeah you know is what it is but thank you very much for tuning in if you do want to add free podcasts patreon.com slash rtr pod join the supporter tier um every single episode ad free joining in a sanctum for more podcasts please leave a like rating review all that type of thing if you are watching on youtube right now please just drop it a like um that would be most appreciated if you're listening on apple or on spotify give it five stars give it a little review go on go on um also this is a random one this is a random one but if any of you who are who listen to my stuff regularly or follow me or anything are an actor and I mean I don't have any budget or anything but I've written something I want to make it if you want to have a read of the script maybe with a view to coming and making like a short football themed Spurs themed type
50:06dystopian-y, black mirror type thing, give me a shout. Tweet me or email me to trunkatgmail.com. Have a read of the script and we can see. We can see what we can do. But yeah, do that. Please do. Be quite fun to make something again. So yeah. Much love, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Up the spurs. See you in a couple of days, I guess. Wait, no, not a couple of days. Well, yeah, a couple of days to the other pod and then after Liverpool. Bye.
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An absolute farce of a match in the Champions League for Spurs that must surely signal the end of the Tudor era.
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