Show Up. Sing Up. Stay Up. | Atletico Pride, A Nottingham Forest Six-Pointer & Can The Fans Save Spurs?

23:41Jack:Sometimes it's harder to get mobilized. Sometimes it's harder to organize. eyes i guess you know with those sort of things in mind have you been surprised by by the response um because you know sometimes sometimes when you talk about this stuff sometimes when you've seen some of the protests you know there's been a hundred people show up and yeah whatever everyone has a laugh but i've always been one of those kind of that i feel like people are bothering to do something people are trying to sort of stand up and be counted so it's not the sort of thing where i think you know people should take the piss out of it but that that's beside the point i mean on this like i guess do you do you see this as a as a reaction to the the the season is it is it or is it bigger than that do you think this signals the the sign that perhaps we've all suddenly realized you know maybe we have taken this all for granted a bit maybe maybe actually the supporter experience can be better as well maybe we do have a part to play in this if if you get what i'm saying yeah i think i think what i touched on earlier i think a lot of fans will feel the way that I feel and certainly I know how Stu feels that no matter how much you hate the ownership no matter how much you hate the board you might even hate some of the players but ultimately if we don't do what we feel is right as fans then what's the point in football and obviously the famous Bill Nickerson quote without fans but there's nothing and sort of we want to go and watch the game played how we like to watch it played I think it it's such a relatable thing for any fan and if there's a Spurs fan that can spin a negative on what we're trying to do here then how much of a true Spurs fan are you I couldn't care how much you hate the ownership at the end of the day what Spurs fan really wants to see their club go down because going down would be the most detrimental thing that could ever happen to this football club we'd lose sponsorships players we'd lose investments like Luka Vescovic would have no say in players like that eventually going and it's I think all the fans are finally not wisened up because it's harsh to say wisened up I think certainly the reaction online has hit home from certainly media outlets that spurs are in danger there's no creeping away of saying you know what I'm too big to be involved in this we are dragged into a battle and at the end of the day we played against 12 men I feel the last couple of weeks and maybe even further with the decisions that have gone against us now it's time to even the playing field and fans turn up and be that 12th man because it does feel like you know you don't want to have that victim complex do you but you know your Gary Neville's your Carragher's and that they've they've had a bit of a field day with this haven't they and I think we you know we've got to appreciate to a certain point we are a big club and it's just exciting isn't it it's exciting for neutrals to see a big club in this sort of position I'm sure if it was Man United or Arsenal in the same position we'd be buzzing about it but sometimes it feels with Spurs that it goes a little bit past that so I think this is just a good, the fact that everybody is rallying that people are getting behind this, getting behind what you guys are sorting out is amazing and hopefully it will inspire it will inspire a new generation of people as well to get behind the club and support them in a more positive and proactive way um Stuart have the have the club themselves spoken to you about this are they involved are they on board with it what about the um Sunday yeah yeah we've been in full communication with the club uh Jay has mainly um obviously and it's basically because we wasn't gonna even then we thought you know what let's work with them let's put it out there let's try and get it done properly where so we can get correct timings and like I said the best thing about it was me and Jay we butted heads at the start of it.

27:21And like Jay said, we had a really well thought out plan. We went into a meeting very, very well prepared. We basically told them all the things that we knew that we had to say really to kind of, you know, start, like you said, they were trying to push us back on virtually a lot of the things to be fair, a lot of things. And then, you know, but we've got there, we've got there, but the club have been really, really good working with us. They have, they've been really good. Yeah, we had another meeting today that went really well. You know, that was more of a safety type of thing. There were some, you know, some big, big guys in there to be fair that are um and it's just a lot of hard work that has gone into it and we can't sit here and fault anyone whatsoever you know like our group that's sorted it the fans are now getting involved everyone's sharing it everyone's doing their little bit but i do take my hat off to the club for actually kind of doing this but saying that they didn't really have much of a an option they need us now more than ever you know if they don't have us then we we could we could have been in some deep, serious, serious trouble.

28:17I just think it's kind of changed the whole complexion of this relegation battle. I think if you spoke to a Tottenham fan this time last week, you know, after the Crystal Palace defeat, probably 95 % of them said that we're going to go down. If you ask now, it's probably about 5 % reckon we'll go down. It's just completely, utterly uplifted everyone. You can see it with the players. The players now look like they're running through brick walls. It seems like the whole club has just been lifted, you know, and it's all come in this period where this has all been arranged and all been sorted, you know, And like you said, there are a few exclusive.

28:47A lot of these players, they do know what's going on. They've been kept in the loop. They're very, very, very excited for Sunday as well. So yeah, it's just roll on Sunday. We're looking forward to it, buzzing for it.

28:58Jack:I mean, that's good to hear, isn't it? Because again, it's one of those modern football things, isn't it? You sort of think in a way they don't care. They're not bothered. It's just a job to them. But I think this season has shown that's not true. they've looked unhappy for quite a long time haven't they and you can tell it you can tell this is this has gotten to them and something like this yeah that brings everybody back together is you know again it's it can only be it can only be a massive positive I mean anybody that's that's listened to this will have probably already seen the flyer but if not anyone that does want to come down anyone that wants to get involved what are the actual details um of sunday so the um the meet we're planning for fans to get into the area for around 12 ish um the club have worked with us today alongside met police they're going to be pushing the barriers out for around 12 15 if there is heavy numbers like we're anticipating i'd say get there for around 11 45 to 12 uh the The bus is scheduled to come past the designated spot around quarter to one, one o 'clock.

30:05This is where we've got to make ourselves known. The location will be outside BrickLairs. Me, Stuart, and a few of the other guys will be posting the bus route and meeting point tonight at 8pm. So it's a bit of an exclusive there. But yeah, so obviously just to also touch on what Stu said, the players on Monday were made aware of the planned details. And this is the positive that you get every Spurs fan thinking, do you know what they've brought into this? All of the players accepted and wanted to be on the coach. There will be players that are out with injuries who are on the coach. This was shared at the team meeting on Monday.

30:42Tudor himself made the decision to put these players on the coach. Obviously, a lot of them, some of them filter in by a car, some of them go on the coach. The decision has been made that the full squad will be on the coach. Players are excited. Social media, there's some stuff coming. I can't talk too much on it. but there is more stuff coming out. But yeah, the excitement... That's Saturday, Jay, isn't it? Saturday? Yeah, Saturday. There will be something coming out from the club to push the message ahead of Sunday. And yes, it's just fans, obviously, if we can ask one thing and you are really wanting to be there, just make sure the behaviour's on the best because obviously if we can get this right and we work well with the club, we get big numbers and we go out and we beat Forest, what this could mean for the fan base is we could work with sort of the same groups of people obviously got to give a shout out to return the shelf at ethso thfc flags he's organized some flags that we will be handing out uh come find myself and stew we've got some flags to be handing out we'll be in the bricklayers um there is going to be something inside the stadium that's been authorized and designed there's so much to come and it feels like it feels like an age away but sunday bricklayers we will be some of us will be in the bricklayers arms from opening stew maybe a little bit later come up say hello just be excited have your singing voices on and obviously just enjoy the party because it sounds stupid that we're having a party for a game that's on paper meaningless to the fans this should be one of the biggest games in recent times and it's a cup final we need to treat it like it yeah just a quick touch sorry just touching what Jay was saying obviously about the behavior thing part of it obviously we were asked today if this is something we want to do for the rest of the home games for the rest of the season and our answer simply was At the moment, we want to see how Sunday goes.

32:24And it all depends how Sunday goes, depending if we will be allowed to do it again. Obviously, if this goes off absolutely brilliant with no tumble whatsoever and it's all smooth, then it wouldn't be a problem for us of the season to keep doing it. Because we don't want to do it for one game and then stop if this is what's needed for us in the season. If it's something that's going to kind of push everyone over that line and bond everyone together, then we are prepared to do it again and again and again until the end of the season. Or until we're safe, at least. So yeah, I just want to quickly add that on for you.

32:53Jack:No, it's important and it's relevant to make that point because the club are going out on a limb and like you say, whatever we feel about them, the fact they are facilitating this, it's a shame that it's taken these sort of circumstances for them to work more closely with fan groups and everything. But whatever it is, they're here. They've put their ego to one side and they're working with people. Thinking about Europe? Think Poland. a destination that surprises travelers in the best possible way. Start in Royal Krakow, alive with legends and timeless architecture. Experience dynamic Warsaw, where history meets cutting-edge design.

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34:15Jack:And I think this is what we've all wanted for many years, isn't it? Like these organic fan movements to carry some weight with the club. Because we see other clubs do that. And Spurs have often been kind of hesitant to do that. But look, they're seemingly, as you're saying, they're on board with it now. And it's just what we want, isn't it? We want the ability to have more of an organic presence within the stadium. we want to get that stadium sort of like get it more alive again you know and i know people will often like people often say that people wear sort of rose-tinted spectacles when they talk about the old white heart lane yeah i know not every single game it was rocking but still there was a certain atmosphere yeah that we haven't really managed to fully transport over to the new ground properly right and this this type of thing is is the start of that you would hope you know this is when we start talking about like singing sections and all that type of thing but i guess that's you know that's for another day right now it's it's it's sunday and this is huge and it's it's a massive step and it's a testament to the pair of you and and the hard work that you've been doing that this is you know this this is the conversation that we're having we're talking about you know hundreds thousands of people turning up to show the club that you know how much how much it means to them and and you know that's you know i think it's the thing is honestly i think this this season has been a learning for many of us.

35:42Jack:I want to say all of us, but I don't want to talk on everybody's behalf. But I think for many of us, it's been a learning seemingly for the club, for the players and for the fans. And, you know, I think it sort of has hammered home really how much this club does mean to everybody. Because like you said, Stu, after Palace, it was horrific. It's one of the worst feelings I've ever had flying Spurs. And it's not, it sort of transcended the whole life. I got to the point, you know, when we started this terrible season and Arsenal are doing as well as they were and you're getting sort of the piss taken out of you.

36:14Jack:At first, it's that bit. It's that ego. It's like, oh God, look how crap Spurs are doing. People are taking the piss out of me. I don't even care anymore. I don't care what other people have to say about the club. I don't care what anybody has to say about us as a fan. I just want the club to be doing well again. I don't want to be in this position. And, you know, if we can help that, then all the better. I did ask for some questions from listeners and Andy Perry has said, how do we stop Sunday just being a one-off? Should we be looking to do this for every home game to the end of the season? I mean, you have sort of half answered that, Stu.

36:51Jack:How do we, you know, I mean, let's not say if the result doesn't go our way against Forrest, but regardless of what the result is against Forrest, how do you think we keep that energy going? I think it just, like, it all depends, And so obviously on the fans, this is a problem. Obviously, this is a non-star if we don't get people there. This is what it's all going to come down to. We've done our bit now. Me, Jay and the team, we've done our bit now. We've done everything we've had to do. There's nothing else we can do now. So it's up to the fan base now to actually turn up. And if they turn up in the numbers, and it is a great, successful event, which I'm pretty certain it will be, then if the feedback's good and it's something that we can do, we can keep the numbers up and that.

37:33because obviously what I wouldn't want to do is I wouldn't want to do it and go through all this time and this hassle and we get 100 people there. It's got to be worth it, you know, and it's also just staying relevant as well with it because will people get bored of it? Will people want to do it in a winter's cold day type thing? So there's all these sort of things you have to look at realistically and think is it feasible to keep doing it? But for the remainder of the season, it's definitely something we would like to look at doing for now. I think in the bigger picture and the grand scheme of things, like you said earlier, there's always things you can do.

38:03It would be nice to have some sort of, something where we could obviously meet up, if there's diehard fans or whatever, and get together, have a sing or whatever. There's definitely ways around it. I think at the moment, especially just this game and the other home games as well, if possible, if we can get it done, if we can. And I think, yeah, it definitely gives us, like, say, a doorway for future to probably bring something in quite similar, personally.

38:25Jack:Looking ahead to Sunday, Jay, have you got like a final sort of like a rallying cry to get people down there, get people down there in numbers what about people who aren't you know online like a lot of us how are we getting the message out to them you love the club that's the saying i can't say if you don't turn up you don't love the club because that wouldn't be true all i can say is if you can give a little bit to a group of fans who just love the club then turn up with us and stand with us i tell you what if we turn up and we get huge numbers then we go onto that concourse we make the racket we know we can make and then it transitions into the stadium and you don't hear we need to hear that stadium the loudest it has been we need to drown out them not an amphora's fans who are going to be loud because they're wanting the exact same thing they need the points um turn up and if if we give our all and it doesn't go our way the fans can say we played our part and do you know what i think the last two games have shown look at how the players reacted last night, they were clapped off the pitch.

39:26Look at how they were at Liverpool. The club realised how important the fans are. And it is so, so important that the fans realise that we are bigger than people that have paid millions. We're the people that buy from the club. We're the people that spend the money. Turning up, how about we try and make our money's worth of being a fan of this club?

39:45Jack:Sue, are you hopeful about Sunday? You know, not fully off the record, but... No, I am now. I am now. If you asked me a week ago, Chris Wallace, I think I'd have looked at him and thought, you know what? But I look at the results now. I look at the results. I look at the performances now for me. And you've got to remember, they are playing today, tonight as well, abroad. So they're not going to get back until late. They're not going to get back until late tonight as well. Didn't even think about that. We've got an extra rest on them as well. And we all know Thursday, Sundays, we know what it's like.

40:17It's not easy to do. You know, your legs get heavy. And it's an early kick-off on the Sunday as well, which will help us as well. personally I think I don't want to be arrogant or anything but I don't see I think if we win the game I don't see us I just think the whole day is built this way I think the event's going to build it like Jade said in the South Stand the concourse build it up for the game get the result I just think the whole day just seems like it's going to be generated to be one of those days for me where it all comes together and in the biggest game of your season you know these guys I think they will show up now I think the extra push you know when they drive down that high street and they see all them fans there you know with their scarves and their flags and they're waving them around and they're singing their songs singing their names even if that gives them 5-10 % extra that 5 % extra could be the difference between winning a game of football and losing a game of football and I just think personally it's just going to drive the whole club on look I personally couldn't care if we had a stinker and we won the game 1-0 a goal don't bother me but anything anything no Offer Charleston's arse

41:21Jack:you know that sort of thing I'll take it I'll take it but these guys like you said they showed you last night what they're playing for now you know like last night was a massive massive result for the context of our season like you know we haven't just beat a poor side you know we've beaten Athletico Madrid side they're a good side they've got some world class players in that team you know we've gone out there and we've beat them and really we should have beat them by more we could have easily had a couple more goals their first goal really should have disallowed in my opinion to foul on Xavi I thought it was unlucky.

41:53I thought it was very unlucky, you know. And another day, I think we could have nicked another goal, had a real goal last 10 minutes, and they could have been clinging on.

41:59Jack:Even the first leg, we played well. You know, there was obviously, you know, you go 4-0 down, it's going to be tough to come back from that. But it was freakish, wasn't it? That sort of little period at the beginning of the game was mad. It was like aberrative to the rest of the game, where we actually played really well, gave a good account of ourselves. Yeah. I just thought it was naive in the first leg. For me personally, this is why I am not fully behind Tudor in what he's doing. I'm going to back him. I'm not trying to be negative because I want to be a positive person. What we've done against Liverpool is what we should have done against Atletico and Madrid away.

42:37Just went there and just completely sat in. Just played completely on the counter-attack. And for a team, by the way, that does this on a regular basis, absolutely flood the pitch after warm-up, I'm just absolutely shocked that nobody in the club kind of knew what was happening I find it absolutely shocking that nobody we went out there and people had certain boots on and let them go out there I just honestly that actually cost us a place in the next round of the Champions League as well the fact that nobody had a bit of sense to think you know what they do this on a regular basis they've done it against Barcelona there and they do they absolutely flood the pitch they wear the correct studs people wear these little blades whatever slide all over the place it is so unprofessional to think that that's a reason why we're out of the Champions League but if you look at it realistically that is why we're out three slips cost us and that you know

43:27Jack:in a way when when you can kind of you know rationalize it in that way almost makes it a bit less painful you know in a certain sense because it shows you that and and as we have seen in these past few games these players aren't actually quite as useless as maybe we'd started to think they were or at least a lot of the media have been telling us that they are there's a talented group of players and yeah they've had a lot of injuries and they've had to come through a lot but still the players that we're left with are very talented and it's good and you know i just i can't honestly like just as we come to the end this i can't believe that it's forest after all after all the narrative at the beginning of the season the morgan gibbs white maranakis and all that of course it's come to this isn't it like it's it's it's it's hollywood but you know i think we can uh i think we can put them in their place and yeah i'm looking forward to it and you know just just well done lads you know i don't mean that patronizing or anything i like thank you thank you for doing this thank you for sorting this out because like you say you know we have all seen the the stuff that everton put out you know everton were in pretty much exactly this same position as we were a few years back and me sat there i've always had a soft spot for everton i didn't want to see them go um and i remember seeing their fans rally behind it get behind it and thinking, God, I hope we do that.

44:42Jack:I hope that happens at Spurs and you guys have made that happen. So hats off to you. Get everybody pumped for Sunday and get everybody there. Get there. Get outside the bricklayers. Wear white, is it? Wear white, bring your scarves. Yeah, wear white, bring your scarves, bring your voice. That's the most important thing. Let's make that high road absolutely buzzing. just make it such a big party atmosphere and as I said put your feelings behind you towards the ownership I'm somebody who's very passionately enic out and I've never been quiet on that front but there's things that are bigger to me and my football club remaining in the Premier League to me is the biggest thing my kids don't deserve to watch a team in a championship I never had to and I never thought it would be a realistic thing and now I'm sitting here thinking do you know what summer way days in the championship look good, realistically, it would be very hard.

45:41It would be a very long summer, certainly if our opposing side go on to win multiple trophies, which is likely this season. It's going to be a very, very long summer. I've done that yesterday. You're talking about the championship. I've done that yesterday. I sat on the stairs yesterday with the ground behind me, and I sat there just looking at it for about half an hour, literally just sat there, quiet, nothing, just sat there. and I was thinking exactly the same thing. I was sitting there thinking we could actually be in the championship next season and it was like horrible, horrible, horrible thought like thinking that stadium and this whole club, but we're not going to, we're going to stay up, just saying, but I did say that I had a half an hour to reflect yesterday.

46:25It was like one of those moments kind of taking it in a little bit and that's something I'm definitely going to say to Jay and the boys who were there Sunday is like, you know, when this is in full close Sunday you know people like Jane or the boys behind us all the hard work they've put in just to take five minutes themselves and just pat yourself on the back and just reflect on yourself and just think you know what you've helped do this you've helped bring this whole club back to connected you know it's a massive achievement honestly I'm so proud of these boys that have

46:53Jack:helped me do this it's absolutely incredible one final thing Stu um I did have one question from adzy that asked if uh if it's going to be streamed if there's any account or anything that anybody should be following to watch everything unfold and so yeah people who are abroad or whatever who can't who can't make it down to yeah but i'm going to be doing it on my tiktok page on tiktok and i will be streaming the whole well i will do the whole thing obviously that is what i'm going to do and so yeah so people want to watch it and i have obviously i know there's going to be other companies that is going to be obviously by sports people like they're all going to be there but they'll be doing like this short videos type thing but i will stream kind of the whole thing so if people do want to watch it and i'm sure some of the other guys in the group will have their devices as well doing the same sort of thing so yeah there definitely will be ways to watch it but like i said i'll definitely be having mine on anyway so that's it's been a pleasure talking to you thanks very much again for for coming on for talking about this and for as i say sorting it all out getting everyone going and you know let's make it let's make it a good one on Sunday and up the spurs.

47:56Jack:Up the spurs, boys. Cheers, man. Thanks for having us on.