Please Keep Me Anonymous with Jordan Stephens

24 Sep 2025 · 53 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Jordan Stephens (Rizzle Kicks) discusses his life and fame, his relationship with South Shields and its people, and his current acting work in Joe Orton’s Entertaining Mr. Sloan at the Young Vic. The hosts also trade stories about anonymous life, including competitive board games and family game-night drama.

Guest background

Jordan Stephens is one half of Rizzle Kicks. He says he was 19 when the group became famous. He’s now promoting Entertaining Mr. Sloan and also mentions a book about modern manhood and love.

Key claims

Jordan says he helped cause the name change from “Riv Mix” to “Little Mix” after mentioning a Brighton charity on Extra Factor. He argues theatre/community matters amid arts cuts. He describes South Shields as central to his life, including walking the Lees with dogs and a lockdown memory involving a seal.

Notable examples

onesie culture (Kigu animal onesies), a South Shields seal incident, fox stories (including an RSPCA response), and a competitive “Double”/board-game cheating moment between Rosie and Chris.

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Chapters

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Reconnecting with Jordan Stephens

0:45 to 2:20

Discussion about the hosts' past encounters with Jordan and his connections.

“And I was like, well, of course he does.”

Jordan's Influence on Little Mix's Name

2:20 to 2:56

Jordan reveals his connection to the name Little Mix, surprising the hosts.

“turns out we're just sick of talking to each other and we just needed somebody else I think we're freaking people out, you know.”

A Fun Chat with Jordan

2:56 to 5:10

Casual conversation about life, fame, and experiences with Jordan.

“Hello, you're listening to Shag Married Annoyed.”

FHM 100 Sexiest Women Awards Story

5:10 to 6:40

The hosts share a humorous story about the FHM awards and the odd atmosphere.

“Right, I know what you're talking about.”

Jordan's Past Experiences

6:40 to 8:25

Jordan shares personal stories from his life and career, including drug experiences.

“I just turned up with one of the guys who works there.”

Meeting Jade Thirlwall and Fame

8:25 to 10:40

Jordan talks about his relationship with Jade Thirlwall and the impact of fame.

“And then, but then I was like, why was I supposed to fucking call back?”

Various Celebrity Encounters

10:40 to 12:05

The hosts and Jordan discuss their various encounters with celebrities.

“I genuinely think that I'm really happy that you've both found someone who understands that level of fame at that age.”

Casual Conversations and Upcoming Events

14:01 to 14:28

The hosts chat about their college days and upcoming events like album launches.

Casual Conversations and Upcoming Events

14:29 to 15:49

The hosts chat about their college days and upcoming events like album launches.

“From household names like Gymshark, Rare Beauty, and Heinz, to brands just getting started.”

Exploring 'Entertaining Mr. Sloan'

16:00 to 17:48

Discussion on the play 'Entertaining Mr. Sloan' and its historical context.

“Yes, let's do that so I can sell tickets to it.”
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The Legacy of Joe Orton and Theatre's Importance

17:49 to 20:57

Reflecting on Joe Orton's impact on theater and the importance of supporting the arts.

“Stone, is just about, I play a young man that nobody seems to know anything about.”

The Joy of Theatre Nights

20:58 to 21:48

Hosts reminisce about their experiences and love for theatre outings.

“We haven't done it for a while actually.”

Book Discussion: Modern Man

21:49 to 22:30

Jordan discusses his book about modern masculinity and personal growth.

Reflections on Personal Change

22:31 to 25:43

The conversation shifts to personal growth and the influence of relationships.

“that was a thing between me and my friends and Jade it was like what she like She's really seen the best version of me.”

The Seal Encounter in South Shields

25:44 to 28:05

A humorous and nostalgic recount of a seal encounter on the beach.

“When are you going to move to South Shields?”

The Seal Incident

28:05 to 29:10

A childhood story about a seal encounter that went wrong.

“I must have been 14, 15, my mates used to go for a jog.”

Foxes and Garden Troubles

29:10 to 30:28

Discussion about foxes invading gardens and their behavior.

“it's horrible my favourite animal is one of my favourite animals is a fox I'm really down for listen Rosie I'm down for animals that have bad reps because I like rooting for the underdog.”

The Sad Fox Encounter

30:28 to 33:09

A heartfelt story about an injured fox and its tragic fate.

“But one morning, it must have been about half five, maybe earlier, and Rafe was getting up really early and I was like, I don't like lying in bed.”

Life in Shields: Humor and Community

33:09 to 35:33

Exploration of humor and community life in Shields.

“I did not think you were going to see another dead fox came out.”

Night Out in Shields

35:33 to 36:51

A humorous recount of a night out and the local culture.

“I remember Jade launched, she reopened her club industry.”

Greggs and Local Delicacies

36:51 to 38:08

Discussion about local food spots, particularly Greggs.

“So I went to the kebab shop and I saw it said burrito.”

Quirky Encounters in Shields

38:08 to 39:29

Funny interactions and observations about people in Shields.

“That is, you're dropping, that's some serious knowledge.”

Anonymous Stories: Competitive Family

39:29 to 42:00

Listener's story about competitiveness during family game nights.

“Should we do the Please Keep Me Anonymous?”

Competitive Spirit in Games

42:00 to 46:08

Explore the dynamics of competitiveness during family game nights.

“just cheat and mummy loses like that's not a world that I want to live in well you found out you found out that I was cheating you told us off and I apologise So you didn't even conceal it, or it was poorly concealed?”

Meltdown in an Escape Room

46:08 to 48:20

Jordan shares a humorous story about a meltdown during an escape room challenge.

“We got sad about it a little bit, so it was all good.”

Camping and Relationship Reflections

48:20 to 50:48

A discussion about a challenging camping trip and its impact on Jordan's relationship.

“And, you know, poker, if you're a beginner, you're actually really to your advantage because you don't know, you know, people don't know, you know, so you do mad calls.”
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0:00Hello, you're listening to Shag Married Annoyed with me Rosie Ramsay and my husband Christopher Ramsay. On this week's episode of Shag Married Annoyed, please keep me anonymous, we are joined by the wonderful Jordan Stephens. And what a really lovely chat that we had. He's just a proper sound lad. Just a proper sound lad. We had a right laugh. We talk about how mine and Jordan's paths have crossed a few times in the past. Yeah. The paths we've done like the panel show circuit and all these different things and I'd seen him. And it's almost like meeting a different version of him now and we're getting to why.

0:29but he's just proper sound lad I don't really want to over egg the pudding but what a nice kid and it's cause he's going out with a lass from Shields that's exactly what it is all the best lads go out with lasses from Shields he bigs up Shields lasses in our conversation and I'm just like yeah and it's so funny because the was it the day after that we chatted to him that I went to Jade's you went to her album launch album launch and I remember I was chatting to her and a friend of ours that we've got in common Anna and I was like yeah, Jordan just loves Shields last season. And I was like, well, of course he does.

1:03It's just really funny. He actually reveals how he's partly responsible for the name Little Mix as well, which I didn't know. I didn't know that either. And he talks about why Jade and him met at the right time as well as why he loves South Shields so much. He's been here. What's really weird is he's been here loads of times while I've been here. He was talking about walking dogs on the lees and that. I'm like, I'm surprised I haven't bumped into him. I know. I'd be really freaked out if I bumped into him in Shields and I don't know why. It's not a person you would expect to say. It'd be really strange.

1:30It's like, not to talk about jiu-jitsu, I'm going to talk about jiu-jitsu. When you see someone from jiu-jitsu in real life who you normally only say jiu-jitsu, it's really weird. All right, okay. It's like seeing someone you have an affair with out of the shops. Ew! We'll have a little chat about his favourite animal. His favourite animal's foxes and his story about it. Really hysterical story. I was talking about it for a couple of days afterwards. Yeah, I've told loads of people about it. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we're having a lovely chat to him, but he's on promoting the fact that he is in Entertaining Mr.

1:53Sloan, which is on at the Young Vic until November tics are available now and it's mad in it because we'll get people on to do Please Keep Me Anonymous and to plug whatever they're plugging but we end up just talking about loads of random stuff well that was the premise of the extra podcast was to do the Please Keep Me Anonymous but actually it ends up just being a really nice conversation we barely squeeze them in we very much yeah what's it called when you like crowbar yeah yeah we crowbar them in at the end it's like oh shit we've named it this now you've got to read this turns out we're just sick of talking to each other and we just needed somebody else I think we're freaking people out, you know.

2:25The people who we've done it with, we've got some great names coming up. I think they're like, they're like, God, them two are just excited to be out of the house. It's nice. We really hope you enjoy it and keep your listening out for the rest of them that are coming up. Enjoy! Enjoy!

2:56Hello, you're listening to Shag Married Annoyed. Please keep me anonymous with me, Rosie Ramsey, and my husband, Christopher Ramsey. Yes, hello, you are indeed. It's me, it's Rosie, and our special guest today. He's making his debut at the Young Vic and entertaining Mr Sloan, but you might know him as one half of Rizzle Kicks. Gotta say, that first album, genuinely one of my favourite albums ever. We've just been reciting it, isn't it? I need to say his name. It's John Stevens everywhere! Yay! Yay. Thanks, guys. Some bangers, by the way. Do that first album. Thank you for having me. Thank you.

3:26I mean, there was two after, but it's... The most recent one, Love It. Me maid had it on the other day. We listened to it. We literally sat drinking and we listened to the whole album the whole night. It was fantastic. I am... Big fan. Lost for words there, Chris. I really wasn't expecting that. And thank you. Gotta be honest. No, gotta be honest. I do apologise. Don't know all the words yet. But the first album, do know all the words. To every song? Yeah. That is something I never knew of you. And I appreciate that. And you know what? it was a decent album even the one can you remember when we met yeah one of the first things I asked you no we met and we literally it was years ago on the Advertisement Famous and I literally went well chatted we said a few things I thought like in my head I was like don't ask them straight away but then I was like what is a Little Goodie Two Shoes glue play models and I went what is that line and he went oh yeah it's Little Goodie yeah yeah wow that's some deep well you know what you guys genuinely thank you I feel warm inside and I actually feel a little bit uncomfortable because I don't know I'll take that from you Can you not?

4:20It's just bizarre to me I can't take compliments and I don't like people thanking us too much And I crave this At home in my moments of anxiety I think wouldn't it be great if I went on a podcast and you know immediately one of the presenters said to me how much they loved my music wouldn't that be great and it gets to it now and I'm just like can we move on? But you know you've just got to say thank you I want to now sing so much We met before Virtually Famous a couple of times We did so we met we've met in some odd junctures of life. Yes. Come on then, free to tell. FHM, 100 Sexiest Women. How are you going to say that?

4:55Let's move on from that. We met there. That's a bone of contention for me. Yeah? Yeah. We'd only been together. We'd only been together about six months. I think we got engaged after six months, right? Wow. We'd been newly engaged. And you know, you know. And then Chris was literally like, oh, I'm going to this award show. I was like, oh, right, what is it? FHM, 100 Sexiest Women. Wait, what was that back then? Yeah. I was peak drugs then. Were you? Yeah. What was your favourite?

5:26Is that not something you asked? It's everyone's favourite. My favourite is everyone's favourite. Okay, all right. It's London's favourite. Right, I know what you're talking about. It's, you know, marching. Colombian marching. I've never ever tried it. Yeah. Never ever. She's never tried a drug. Never tried a drug. It was a smoke dope, but then we nearly set a kitchen on fire. So I stopped that. Luckily, my friend hadn't emptied our bath, and we put a dressing gown in the bath. So you set a dressing gown? Oh. Put it over the oven, because the oven set on fire. What were you doing? She made it damp first.

6:00It was a told in an odd order. Yeah, it was like, so we made it. She damped. We wet the dressing gown, and then we put it over the oven. And then put it over the fire. What oven? Oh, do you mean the hob? Also, what's that got to do with smoking weed? I was just stoned. I was just fucking stoked. So I was just like, oh. Yeah. Anyway, that's the hardest drugs I've ever done. I was doing drugs. I was on drugs at that party. Okay, good. Well, not good. I know what you're going to say. What? Don't worry. What am I going to say? What is the story? Go on. No, no, no. I'm not going to. You are genuinely charming.

6:32We had a lovely chat. Thank you, sir. That FHM 100 Sexiest Women Awards was extremely odd because it was, I was hosting it. You were a guest. No, no. It was easily 300 men. I hosted it. I hosted it. I came to the after party. I actually wasn't. I was just there. I just turned up with one of the guys who works there. It was easily 300 men wondering where the 100 sexy women were. There was honestly four women there. All from Hollyoaks. Really odd. So there was none of the women there? No, you're forgetting then. Wait, what am I forgetting? Anyway, we'll leave this for... I mean, I'm not forgetting, but I don't know if I want to say it on the podcast, but it's still one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

7:09Okay, good, as long as you know. It's still one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's a personal thing. Chris witnessed contextually to that part of my life like a quite a quite good bragging rights moment in that the woman who won won did she win? she won one of the awards she won yeah I remember our photo from posters in all of my friends bedrooms when I was younger including me probably begging for his fucking number like nothing I've ever seen but Rosie listen this is the maddest thing about it yeah I was so shocked by this because all my life yeah it really doesn't happen that often.

7:43It was quite an odd scenario. You're literally going out with a pop star, but let's carry on. Yeah, no, I know that, but I know, this is why it's being cut out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I mean, but I mean that like, even if you're, it was just, that doesn't happen that often. Honestly, for men, even if you are attractive, even if you are whatever else, like, especially not with somebody in that context. Anyway, the point was, I freaked out and tried to be really cool about it. It worked. And so I didn't, yeah, but I didn't tell you the next part that happened after. So I just was like, I basically gave my number over and was just like, cool, didn't ask for theirs.

8:17And then was just waiting for a week for the text and it just never came. And I was devastated because I would have liked to have texted her. And then, but then I was like, why was I supposed to fucking call back? Let's swap numbers. Because I was next to the quiz, I was just chilling. I was like, yeah, there you are. I remember telling people, I was calling me mess, I was going, he didn't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was playing cool. But then... It is possible to play it too cool. Yeah, but listen, check this out. The next week, and I'm sat next to someone, yeah, and we're chatting, and they'll be like, oh, yeah, I think we know a few people.

8:50In fact, I think you met my girlfriend the other night. Yeah. But then I was like, oh, and then I was like, thank God. I'm just going to guess. Another time I met you. Yeah. That's cool. Is this a bit neat? No, no, no. This was, I was, I'd finished a gig in Bristol, and I went back, at a hotel divan in bristol and i walked through the bar to my room and i heard a few people talking quietly and i turned to me left and you and harley yeah you and harley from rizzle kicks were sitting on the sofa after your gig both in brightly colored onesies yes just sitting there it's a good era yeah and i went is this the same the same days as drugs yeah and he went yeah and i went you okay and he went yeah you're right yeah you're right yeah i'm i'm chris i'm comedian and we've got a friend in common, Ed Sheeran, oh yeah, yeah.

9:40And I went, yeah. And he went, yeah. And I went, anyway, night. And he went, I'll never forget. You were just sitting there and watching. And he went, night. And then you go. Yo, it was a crazy time, Rosie. I'll be real. I would wear, so let's just, I would not only wear the colour, but you're talking about ones that were like, it's half orange, half blue from memory. It was just, we both got gifted them at one of these capital gigs and we were like, this is the best thing we've ever been in, right? Comfort over everything. but then I found a website a company called Kigu who make animal onesies and I ended up to the point where I bought maybe eight different animal onesies and if I did have a small gathering of people at my house I would make everyone get it and we'd be doing drugs and I'd be dressed as a red panda love it how old were you when Rizzle Kicks how old were you when it all went 19 that's crazy to be really famous I said that to my therapist that's mad so hang on though right because obviously Jade yes Sirwell your partner yes gorgeous friend of ours friend of ours beautiful person I've known Jade since she was like nine it's mad she's gorgeous so that's that must be amazing that you two have got that in common yes to have fame at the same age I think to be able to because this is what we we're able to talk about life and and we both get it if we've done a programme together and it's like oh that was that's so nice to have somebody to be able to chat about that.

11:07I genuinely think that I'm really happy that you've both found someone who understands that level of fame at that age. It must have been insane. In fear of derailing the podcast and just talking about Jade, which is very possible. I thought that's what you were here for. Oh, you've got stuff going on?

11:30I'm joking. For those of you not watching this on YouTube, Rosie just picked up my card and just claimed he had things on the car. I'm still Chris Ramsey's wife to a lot of people in the world. So that's absolutely fine. I don't know about it. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind being Jay's boyfriend. I think it is insane how closely our lives are intertwined. And it's a little bit weird because, firstly, I don't know if you know this, but I'm partly the reason why they're called Little Mix, which is weird. Are you? Yes. I didn't know this. Yeah, it was a weird thing. They used to be called Riv Mix, which was like a Brighton-based charity at the time.

12:03Right. And then we got booked on Extra Factor, which is a live show. Yeah. And on that, in that interview, I said, oh, by the way, Rhythmix is the name of a Brighton-based charity. And it's messed with all the Google searches. And then it, like, started picking up on the internet. And then they changed their name to Little Mix, which is nuts. And then secondly, what's even weirder is I've seen the girls a few times. I actually loved Little Mix. I thought it was wicked. Can we just sort it out? Yeah, yeah. By the way, I've seen them twice live. Like, nothing through Jade, by the way. like I would just rock up and be like how much yeah Little Mix Little Mix of Goals so good yeah yeah it was I loved I just thought it was dope that they were like UK girl group the second album I was really into that and they're so talented so talented they can genuinely sing yeah genuinely talented like live vocals so so but when I saw them and this is recorded I never saw Jade I never met Jade I met every other girl no way three or four times and then we were supposed to do we were supposed to be on a song with them and then we didn't do it and they got Missy Elliott instead which is a shame for them.

13:05It's one of the things where you go, fair enough. Yeah. I was like, why do you ask us to pricks? We were up for a book award for our children's book and we're up against Julia Donaldson and Julia Donaldson won and everyone was like, oh, you're sad. And we were like, oh, Julia Donaldson. You can't really argue when the gold wins. Shout out Julia Donaldson and her late husband, Malcolm. Yeah. Wonderful people. But yeah, so I never met Jade. So it was literally like when we went on our first day even though I'd met the other girls I even got in trouble with Perry when I was younger because I like said that her and Zane's marriage was going to be doomed and I got arsed in an interview but when I was a kid yeah I'm worried what's he going to say here this man yeah what's that band name Charity get it there what are you doing together in the bin not going to last next question yeah I was in trouble with the girls for a bit but I never was in trouble with Jade apparently so there you go yeah but I always fancied though which is nice that's so lovely I always fancied Rosie yeah at college and at school you went to college together yeah love that why are you so obsessed with me so yeah I'm five so I'm five years in now Jade are you going on Wednesday no no I'm going I'm rehearsing for this play I know you are she told me I was actually gutted oh mate that's by the way Jade's album launch yeah on Wednesday that's what Rosie's talking about Chris has got the kids yeah sorry everyone you're listening to Shagmary Annoyed name drop and celeb gossip special we'll just invite each other to each other's album launch and talk shit um starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer for millions of businesses that tool is shopify Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10 % of all e-commerce in the U.S.

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16:00Let's talk about this new play. Yes, let's do that so I can sell tickets to it. Yeah, it's at the Young Vic. It's called Entertaining Mr. Sloan. Yes. Right, tell us what it's about. So it's a play written in the 60s by a playwright called Joe Orton, who for people who love theatre especially, or particular fans of the heritage of British writing. He's quite important because he was a gay man living at a time when it was illegal to be gay. And he would write plays where he would like embellish the plays with this charged, you know, homoeroticism, but also actually not even, that's a bit reductive.

16:41It wasn't even just that. It was just more charged with the leverage people want to gain from each other. And for some people, the male characters, that would have an extra charge. And that was especially dangerous at the time because not only was it illegal to be gay, but plays were also actively censored back then. Yeah, yeah, of course. People would have to read the plays. And so he would write these, they'd be coded, it'd be hidden within it. Now, for us, it seems almost obvious what was being done. But he managed to get it passed. And he just didn't care. He's from Leicester, working class boy.

17:13Literally no one in his family had anything to do with writing. Wow. He just had this gift to just write a story. And he would write often about his life and then just put it into. But he's also famed for, he ended up being murdered by his boyfriend in a way as if he had written it in a play. It's really quite spooky. In real life? In real life, he was beaten to death by his boyfriend. And when you watch his plays, it's eerie because it's like something he would have put in one of his plays. Yeah, it's really trippy. And that boyfriend helped him. In fact, the play I'm in is dedicated to the guy who then kills him.

17:46Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. So the play itself, Entertaining Mr. Stone, is just about, I play a young man that nobody seems to know anything about. I turn up unannounced to a house and it's a four-hander, meaning it's me, Tamsin Althwaite, she's playing Kath, she's a legend. Love Tamsin Althwaite. Danny Sequoia is playing Ed and Kemp is played by Christopher Fairbank. Christopher Fairbank. Fairbank, I was going to say Fairweather, Fairbank who all of them unreal I'm very lucky because they've all done loads of theatre they're super veterans and I this is my first ever stage show is it? first ever time on stage ever since I was 12 yeah I've never done I didn't do like TV and film I've done but theatre's a whole different you know he was in Star Wars Rogue One I read it yeah I was in Star Wars Rogue One but I didn't know that Saved the Galaxy but that's a minor point I don't think I've seen it but he was off his titty can't remember it no I was sober for Scott I'm joking I'm joking.

18:47I was talking about your character. I was talking about your character. You got sober for Star Wars. Listen, you've got to get sober for Star Wars. I don't think I was, you know. Do you know what? I think you'll love it. I think theatre. Out of TV, I mean, I've never done film, but out of TV, I think theatre is like the creme de la creme. I can see why actors get so obsessed. I think you'll love it. But yeah, my character turns up looking for somewhere to stay. Do you end up in like a trouble? No, I end up. Yeah, I don't want to give it. I've seen the poster yeah it looks a bit sexy yes I am in my underline the poster yeah I think look what I'm trying to say like I was saying before it is ultimately about leverage which never ages so people have asked me if the play still rings true now and obviously there are many things that are specific to the 60s just in terms of the way people speak and some of the things referenced but the Machiavellian nature of people trying to get one over on each other oh we've never changed no no people have never never changed I don't think throughout the years So it's who wins that.

19:45Yeah, basically who can gain the most leverage in a short space of time. It's at the Young Vic, go online, find tickets. And also I've got to stress, and I've learned more about this from doing the play, that I haven't been to loads of plays. I'm not actually like a theatre-y person, but in the build-up, I've really immersed myself in stage and theatre and done a lot of reading and gone to see plays myself. And I think it's so important that people go out and watch plays and go to the theatre because especially with the young vic that's like a subsidized theater so yeah it relies on on the enthusiasm and the love from from people and i really you know i i'm sure everyone already feels this but especially now i just think it's so important to maintain that level of community and i i get scared a little bit that almost every creative outlet in britain britain has been threatened by whatever has just happened in the last decade in terms of cuts and whatever else a lot of cuts have happened to creative arts and I just feel like it's the backbone of our society and it blows my mind.

20:46You know what I mean? Like Joe Orton has left a legacy as a writer, you know, and that's just theatre. Obviously music, clubs have been closing. Like there's just, we need to make sure that we put, you know. I agree wholeheartedly. We put our love and passion into that. We love a theatre night. We love a theatre night. Do you absolutely love a theatre night. It's like theatre night, isn't it? We haven't done it for a while actually. Probably. We used to pick really random stuff as well. I love like musicals. Do you? And remember when we went to see Top Hat? Top Hat. And Chris was like, what the fuck is this?

21:12Sweet to God, right? We were the youngest people in that room by easily 50 years. Yeah, but it was brilliant. I was getting, I'll get it eyed up to me immune system. You gotta watch out though. You never know what these people can do, man. Yeah, you'll end up walking around in an old man's body and your consciousness is somewhere else. Get out! Yeah, it is. Oh yeah, I've seen that. Very good reference. But yeah, no, it's, it's, yeah, I, that's good. That's good. and you should you know you can get a little bit of dinner you can at the Young Vic actually you can also have dinner there at the park so it's the whole shabang oh I love it your book's also out it's available in paperback I do have a book out you've got a book sorry two seconds Rosie are you a Sunday Times best summer yeah I am a Sunday are you a Sunday Times I am actually oh my god oh my god what bloody chances oh that's really cool what a bunch of dicks doesn't mean anything doesn't mean anything this is interesting because right in the book Jordan Stevens yes that's me discovers what it means to be a modern man and how the price we pay for love in all its forms is worth it yeah you've really grown up haven't you I have I have yeah you've really grown up I have I just cannot imagine a man in a onesie writing that do you know what I'm saying yeah but in all seriousness though when I first started going out of Jade that was a thing between me and my friends and Jade it was like what she like She's really seen the best version of me.

22:38I really mean that. Yeah. I'd really done a lot of therapy and shit. So when I met her, I was really ready for... Chris was a prick. To the point where my family have actually commented going, oh, he's totally different now. You know what it is? It's never easy to hear, but I do hold on to that was. It's a thing. Was a prick. Yeah, you were. You're not anymore. Listen, they will never understand how confusing it was as a millennial man. Thank you. We have been, we were hard. Oh, tell me your troubles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm joking. Come on. You can have a minute. No, come on. To be fair.

23:15No, no, no, come on. No, do you know what it is, John? I've actually, I've got two sons. I've got two sons. So my whole sort of stance on like, you know, I have to look at it differently. How old are they? They're nine and four. They'll be okay, actually. Do you think? But yeah, Gen Z boys, they grew up, they were teenagers at the time when everyone was like, men are shit. And they were like, oh. So that's what I'm working on at the moment, actually. Yeah, we've gone on a bit of a roller coaster, haven't we, I think. Millennial. But millennial, the reason I say that, obviously, it would be ridiculous to compare.

23:51But I just find it funny because I hear a lot of conversation about, let's say, Gen Z boys. Or about some of the stuff that's going around, certain people on the internet saying certain things. and I always think like we were raised in our era to just be that type of man and boy like the horrible things we are seeing particular people say on the internet was just fed to us in TV film like that was just normal like this idea of just you know can you believe boys these days are turning to girls and saying get in the kitchen I'm like yeah I mean I don't like it nowadays that's unacceptable but that was just like in a playground what 13, 14 100 % anything that would upset someone with saying and vice versa like literally i girls listen i said this in my book the girls at my school like if you got the wrong side of them yeah you want a rumor to ruin your life jesus christ like i i i remember genuinely being fucking rattled at some of those girls because you know they matured a little a little bit quicker than the boys and and like you know if you i mean like i remember when i was a kid i got like bullied into a relationship they were just like they're like go out with her or we might make your life a living out like it was the mafia for real yeah that was the kind of thing and I was like okay and I used to plot like I used to plot how to avoid her yeah like she's gonna be fuming when she has about you and Jade it's in the fucking book no I know but anyway the long story yeah Jade yeah Jade Jade's she's seen a good side of me yeah and she knows I used to be a prick that was that's the thing you know that I we've all had we've all had pricks I needed her to know that because that's about the context of being a pop star, the intensity of that space.

25:31And also she's obviously, she's encountered these fuckers the whole time there. So it's not like particularly out of, she'd be like, oh, really? You got fame and money and spent being a fucking idiot. Oh, that's so bizarre.

25:46Here's something. Go on. When are you going to move to South Shields? Yeah. Wow. I asked you, every time I say hey, you know, she's like, I can't. What's the move? I'm just like, you could live here. You guys actually live there, innit? We still live there. Not in South Shield Town Centre. We live like a little bit, I'm not going to say, a little bit further up. But yeah. On the, oh, okay, I love, I have a very soft spot for South Shields. I know you do. I really do. So weird that, all the different times I've met you now and the chances are now, but next time I see you, you'll be in a chippy, a chill.

26:16I know, mad. Yeah, because I, yeah, like I've fallen in love with the Lees, like that whole area. I take the dogs down and they love it. I love the walk on the beach I have this like really one of my favourite memories was I think it was around lockdown I got locked down in South Shields the third lockdown yeah we went to Jade's mum's and we were there for like a month and a half and every night I would take the dogs down to the beach because they had lights along the path but they don't have lights on the sand and it's really calming like just the darkness and the sound of the sea and it's a gorgeous beach I think it's probably one of the awards I don't know it has it won Britain's Best Beach 2020 yeah something like that yeah and yeah there was one night where I was with my dog and he starts barking a lot and I was like what's going on and then you know he's barking at what I thought was a rock but then I walked up and it was a fucking seal or oh what yeah fuck off walrus I don't know seals seals we get seals it's a big seal yeah and then yeah and then this guy walked past and I was just like what do I do about the seal I don't know what to do It was like a lone seal I was like Do you push it back in?

27:26I don't know What do you do with the seal? If you want to push that You will lose your arm Boss Right So I said Do I ring someone About the seal? I don't know what It just seemed And then the guy was like Where's the seal? Where's the seal? He's from Shields though So I was like It's just down there I'm on the phone to whatever Trying to figure out What to do with the seal They've been like Mate he's just having a kip I leave the seal alone Next thing I look at the guy He's doing a fucking selfie I was like Fuck But yeah, I love it. I love Shields. I love Coleman's. I love Marcello's. You've just unlocked a memory for me.

27:59Go on. So when I was about, when I was about, I must have been 14, 15, my mates used to go for a jog. We used to run down all over the length of the beach and then down at the pier a bit. And we found a seal. And it was literally just lying in the sun. Just chilling. right at the side of the pier and we stayed for ages and we were like looking at it and loads of people come back and we found a ceiling it was like a big thing before social media we didn't have cameras no one was taking the phone over and someone phoned a guy to come down it was just now that you're seeing it it was just chilling someone told this guy to come down and he came with you know the thing you used to see on Animal Hospital where it was the metal pole with a puller thing yeah on Turner Huch yeah mate what's he do he put it round its neck to try and drag it back to the sea and it fucking fought with this bloke for so long and it was bashing off rocks and it was bleeding and it went back in and I remember being genuinely upset when it went in and he got in and he was like sorted and I was like I was like me and all my mates were like we shouldn't have ragged it we should have just fucking left it like why did we ring him yeah he ragged this fucking seal back into the scene it was horrible it's not the one it's horrible my favourite animal is one of my favourite animals is a fox I'm really down for listen Rosie I'm down for animals that have bad reps because I like rooting for the underdog.

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29:21Okay, well, wait till you own a house with a garden. I have a house with a garden. They're all right. We've got a couple of dogs, so they don't bother us. Well, we got them in our garden and you just think one night when my kids are out, are they going to come and take one of my kids' faces off? Eat your kids. That happened where we live. That's happened, man. A fox got in someone's house and went to the baby's cot and bit the baby. That's very rare, Rosie. I swear, well, it happened. But it hasn't happened. also but that happens with dogs yeah Jordan do you not understand no dogs no foxes can I tell you why and it's not I think foxes are so cute and I think they are gorgeous and sometimes when we see the little baby ones I'm like oh my god the reason I didn't like it is because these foxes that were in our garden kept waiting the kids up at four o 'clock in the morning no listen the way they sound at night is a fucking joke this is what I mean they're crying baby shit when they're having sex and they're mad yeah it sounds like it sounds like underage orgy happening in your garden someone was asleep when they were making up the animals for that Yeah, they were waking the kids up.

30:20I was right. I'm sure I talked about this on the podcast, but when Rafe was getting up, when our youngest was getting up really early. They shit in the garden. They shit in the garden. They shit. It fucking burns the grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're wild. But they are cute. They are. But one morning, it must have been about half five, maybe earlier, and Rafe was getting up really early and I was like, I don't like lying in bed. If I'm up, I'm up, so I just go downstairs. I remember I stood at the window and I was just watching and this fox was just walking down the patio. Yeah, yeah. It was just like that.

30:47I'm giving it large. They're getting braver. They are. It saw me and it went, and it like started running. It was running on the spot. And I could see there was part of its brain going, Foxy doing up at this time? Like, why are you on half five? I was like, we shouldn't have seen each other. I literally, I remember turning me, Rafe was like three at the time. I remember going, I shouldn't have seen that. I should be asleep. Yeah. Foxy's, they roam. So the mad thing is, I, I remember there was one day, right. Where like, I was with like, this is like an old, old girlfriend. And it was like, you know, I've been very public.

31:19I've got loads of fox mugs. I've got a fox tattoo. Anyway. Oh, you really like foxes then? I was a bit sad. I was a bit sad that day. And I remember they saw a fox. And they went, oh, look. It's a fox, Jordan. In the middle of the street. And I was like, oh, it is. But obviously I know a little bit about foxes. I'm like, if there's foxes alone in the daytime, this isn't a good sign. Really? So we like walk up and the fox isn't even running. It's just chilling. Oh, this is so sweet. As in like, this would cheer you up. and I'm like, I don't think this fox is okay. I kind of get near it. And then it kind of like hobbled into a bush.

31:53I went and got some food, some water, left it out, was barely going near it. Rung the RSPCA, the woman's come down in the van and she went, oh yeah, you know, this is typical around this time of year. You've done the right thing. And I'm like, what do you mean? Boss, she gets the thing out the car and she went, look, this is the most humane thing to do. and they literally in front of me but this is my favourite animal and I was already sad listen listen listen this was so mad I was like what do you mean she went this fox is injured it's been left by its pack it's out in the day because it's going to die slowly over two weeks the most humane thing is to kill it now and I went oh my god I've just called I've called for the assassination of this fucking fox and then this is the bit that killed me the most she went look it'll be over in a second she opened the back of the van and another dead fox fell out.

32:48And she went, oh, sorry. I was like, stood on the side of the road. I stood on the side of the road in floods of tears where I was sobbing my eyes out and she went, you guys can carry on now. And then, oh my God. And the next was like, maybe it's not a sign. Oh my God. I did not think you were going to see another dead fox came out. She had killed about four that day. This woman was going round. Because that's what it is. You've still got a number, go ahead. No. If they're in a pack, they've got a family's defeat. No, I know. I'm joking. I'm joking. Oh, that is grim. It was savage. Oh, God, love you.

33:30But that's the reality of a life as a fox, bro. Life as a fox? Dark comedy at its best.

33:37So do you love living in a shield? We love it. We love something. We even, to the point, we moved to the countryside because we thought we were posh on that and we moved for a year hated it couple of arenas moved back sorry sorry all of the arenas we did two or two yes I saw fucking amazing I did my own makeup and everything we didn't spend any money oh no overheads yeah no overheads no overheads at all honestly no overheads and I bought a cologne for 400 pounds and you fucking know that motherfucker anyway so you're set for life carry on So we moved to the countryside, didn't like it, and moved back.

34:16Yeah. That's how much we genuinely love it. Super lighthouse under there. Super lighthouse. Yeah, I love that whole area. I also found that, obviously, Rosie, you're hilarious. Thanks. Is that a thing? I, most, most Shields women I've met are fucking funny. Yeah, I think. What is that? Yeah, I don't know. It's mad, isn't it? I don't get it. No, it is. It's a really. like all jade's friends are funny yeah you're allowed to be yourself right do you know what i mean and there's a dark humor perhaps and there's a total dark humor it's very like working class just it's very yeah yeah i know so many funny women yeah oh my god like i think we'll laugh at i have such a laugh my life's just constant you laugh at yourself as well you're laughing yourself yeah there's a lot of that you know what i mean there's a lot of self-deprecating especially in shields it's like and yeah i think you're right i think it's it's like women just allow to be themselves and laugh at yourself definitely a little tougher as well yeah on the basis working class town i think there's a little bit of uh something that's something again i admire and adore about jayden and our people is it's like you know bit rough and tumble well it's just like shit happened shit's happened listen here's the best way of me putting it in shields this This moment of Shields really summed up that part of the world for me.

35:33I'm on the seal. I remember Jade launched, she reopened her club industry. Yeah. And I went to the opening night and I got a bit like, it was a lot. You know, we were there and there's loads of people and it's really fun. But I'm sober. So sometimes I've got to take like vibe breaks. And I sat outside just getting a breather and a guy walked past. and he had obviously, his arm was sliced open and he was just walking and chatting with his mates and there's just blood, a trail of blood just passed me along there all the way down the high street and I was just like, no one gonna, it didn't look like he was going to hospital.

36:15It was just like, let me get to the next bar. he's probably punched a bin.

36:23He's probably been angry and he's probably punched a bin, missed and went, oh fuck. And his mates have gone for Foxy. Sliced his arm, like dripping with blood just all the way down. And no one batted an eyelid. Also, I went to the local kebab shop on the high street. And I remember I went in and look, as you guys know, let's just say the food, there's some incredible food spots, but the general, the broadening of the food horizons in Shields. Yeah. You're right. So I went to. Our Deliveroo was a joke. Yeah. So I went to the kebab shop and I saw it said burrito. It's like chicken burrito. And I was like, oh my God.

37:06I mean, Shields, they got fucking burrito. We're both surprised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't believe it. So I was like, boss, I think they spelled something wrong. I'll get the burrito, please, mate. He goes, yeah, it's fantastic. What do you want? Chicken burrito. Fantastic. Goes away, comes back. It was a pizza folded in half.

37:24He gave me a Calbrazo. what the fuck it is. Calzone. Calzone. And I was like, that's hilarious. And I looked at him and he was like, burrito. I was like, you guys are finished. You're finished. Record for most Greggs on a high street. Yeah. That's what needs to be said. No, listen. Do you know there's two Greggs next door to each other? Well, separated only by a noble's amusement. Yeah. And also, are you aware of the rule in the Greggs? We've talked about this in our podcast, but are you aware of the rule in the Greggs? I don't go in anymore. So if you, I'm on a diet. Got you. So if you come out of that Greggs with your pasta or your sausage board or whatever on the King Street and Shields, if a seagull forcibly takes that Greggs from you, you go back in and tell them, they'll give you another one for free.

38:08Because they care. That is, you're dropping, that's some serious knowledge. Serious knowledge. You just sort of, you know. And they can tell if you're lying. Because you're telling someone's eye. Does it have to be a real seagull? They can tell. You can set that up. If you don't have a seagull, steal shit off you. It's the most harrowing thing in the world. What if it's a man dressed as a seagull? Not as scary. Not as scary as a real seagull. No, seagulls are fucking... They're brutal. Our seagulls are hard as fuck. You don't want to fuck with seagulls, man. They are massive. They proper are, innit?

38:34Big birds, bro. Yeah. Chilling, just shitting on you and that. Yeah, I'm not a fan. Sneeling ice creams. Don't care about kids. Joy. No. You get a small enough dog on a lead at the beach at Shields, that seagull will have that away. Stop now. I'm telling you. Stop immediately. I'm telling you. I reckon our average seagulls could bench pressure Chihuahua. Easy money. They ran after me in Rafe once. I'm still traumatised by it. The story you told about the person saying, wash your fanny, was that in Shields? Wash your fanny? Yeah, I listened to... Oh! You don't wash your fanny. That was in the nice part.

39:08Who said you don't wash your fanny? I told you about this the other day. The guy who said you don't wash your fanny. The bloke who said you don't wash your fanny. I was going into the shop and he said... Oh, they were having an argument and said you don't wash your fanny. That was in Shields. In the nice part, Shields? It was near where we live. I nearly coloured them and went, Dude, I spent a lot of money to live in this area. It's gone right down. Piss off down the king street, you're going to talk like that. Only five nights streets. Yeah. No, right, listen. Sorry. Should we do the Please Keep Me Anonymous?

39:34You've got a story here. Dear Chris and Rosie, please keep me anonymous. In the past, you discussed children who are bad losers. Well, please let me share details on my new boyfriend, whose entire family are bad losers. Oh, no. As a non-competitive person, I wasn't prepared for the first family games night, which, by the way, I was already dreading. I am not from a particularly games night kind of family. It began fairly tame, but once the Scrabble started, it got quite intense. In brackets, nerds. Am I right? My sister-in-law accused my partner of not only trying to see the reflection of the tiles in her closet, but she also she also accused him of trying to entice the family cat up onto the board to sabotage the game wow this was all said in seriousness it was insane and i was very uncomfortable it only got worse and ended up with my sister-in-law leaving the games night in a huff and her and my partner not speaking for about two weeks my partner seemed to think this was totally normal wow as an only child Chris and as a middle child Rosie how competitive are you and have you ever fallen out with anyone over a board game oh nah over a board game I'm not competitive at all really like well only if I'm doing well at it if I think I've got a chance of winning that's when I'll up my game but if I if I start something and I'm crap I think nah Taskmaster Taskmaster so I was extremely competitive on Taskmaster you're so competitive so I think I'm not you are not right okay we just been in Portugal recently right oh same yeah oh it's lovely isn't it we are in Portugal we'll chat after we were playing double with the kids have you heard of double yes boggle no boggle is double is where you match the cymbals oh no I've not played that it's really good right it's very simple blows my mind you have to match a cymbal and everyone the kids were banging to it and we were like right we'll have like a final like mum and dad will play each other like you two play each other like you know and all this kind of stuff me and Chris were playing each other and you started cheating I just started cheating you just fully he fully started cheating why and then yeah but then I took the stance no but I didn't like that because I live in a world where I'm one woman with three blokes I was like you can't teach we had this full like big moment where I was like Chris you have to explain to the boys that you can't just cheat and mummy loses like that's not a world that I want to live in well you found out you found out that I was cheating you told us off and I apologise So you didn't even conceal it, or it was poorly concealed?

42:10I just said really fast. So sometimes you put two cards down, and you've got... What's it called? Double. Double blows my mind, because if you've never seen it, you get a pile of cards each, the way we play it, and you put them down, and on any two cards, two symbols will match, but they're different every time. And every time you put them down, you always go, I found the cards where it doesn't match. And it's always there, and it matches. But sometimes you put them down, and you go like, candle, and you'll get there, it'll be the cannon. You're like, tree, flag. And it's, if you do it quick enough, the other person hasn't got a clue.

42:41But on the third one, I said it and she went, it wasn't that, it was the car. And I was like, oh, fuck. Just couldn't bear that I was winning. Wow. It wasn't that you were winning, it was that I'd already been beaten by a nine-year-old. Yeah. Well, there it is. But then that had to turn into a full moment with the family. It was embarrassing. I'm very sorry. So I am, I never thought I was competitive. I used to always say I'm not competitive because I saw it as football or, you know, being the hardest at school, being competitive, but it's actually, I'm competitive on really pointless shit. Yeah.

43:10The more pointless the thing is. Are you? Yeah, it's a problem. Really? So would you fall out with someone over like Games Night Scrabble? No, I probably wouldn't fall out. I don't know if shit. Get heated. No, I wouldn't fall out. it's got heated articulate gets deep love articulate articulate gets deep and there's been times I'm just like okay you're taking a fucking piss the worst thing with Jade is she's not competitive at all and the worst thing happened one time was we were playing like the five second rule game or whatever and there her gang you know mid game just kind of went into this like blah blah blah blah and then they just scrapped like two of the fucking rules and then I'm there going are we playing the game or not like what the fuck changing the rules yeah Like, what is this?

44:01The whole point of a game is to have structure so you can decide who wins. Anyway, I play Jada Scrabble all the time. Beats me a lot. Really? She's a silent assassin and she doesn't even care. Nothing beats a good loser. Yeah. That is the thing. There was the worst it's got, and I'm sure she'll be all right with me saying this because we joke about it now and she brings it up all the time. Early on in our relationship, was it early on? Early-ish, we went to do an escape room together I've never done one we've never done one I think we've quite I mean I think you've I love escape rooms and I for whatever reason and I as a disclaimer I am Delally in this in this story and this is I had put so much weight on this escape room right because we were I was in Budapest I was doing an acting job Jade's come along we go down to this thing and we got locked in to the thing we didn't get out in time you gotta get out within an hour.

44:59Right. Were they locked you in? No, no, not literally locked in. You're just like, they just go, sorry, you didn't escape. Right, okay. Oh my God, I'm like. Bro, I was like, I was like, how are we going to get through life? I turned to Jade and was like, if we can't get out of this room in an hour. So you took that as an analogy, as an allegory for your future. I had an actual meltdown. Oh my God. I literally was like, Jade, If we can't combine and coordinate sufficiently to get out of this room in an hour, how are we going to get through the escape room that is existence? Can we just take a minute?

45:39You're laughing your head off. This is literally something you would say. I'm seeing myself so much. I swear, what's wrong with you? Jade, I remember Jade's face so clearly. She was like, are you being serious? And then now she jokes about it because then we booked another escape room and she said she's fucking shitting herself. Before she said it again, but then she got to the next escape room and was like, yo, we've got to get out of this fucking room. I don't know what Jordan's going to do. We might not have a future. And we did. Oh, wow. We did one the other day, actually. That's great. We got sad about it a little bit, so it was all good.

46:18But yeah, that for some, I just was like so attached. Because I guess you have this dreamy idea, don't you? That you're just like fucking body - We're going to be power couple. Bum, bum, bum, bum. What? I didn't even say anything and you got the clue right out. What the fuck? It's like one mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I remember that it's actually all about balance and sometimes you have to learn that each other's... Also, we weren't with each other that long at that point. Yeah. You can't win everything. She steered with you after that. That is a testament to her. That's the irony. Yeah. I was the one freaking out.

46:43She's there going, that's not... Wow. Have you noticed any flags about Jordan? Yeah, he melted down over a schedule about a year in. He said it represented our entire future together. Can you remember when we went camping with all of our friends and oh the night I nearly left you well there was that this is the night we nearly split up this sounds good why are you mentioning this because I wasn't talking about I was talking about the end don't mention it you should never mention it because it's actually like I tried to leave I tried to get my taxi driver to pick us up a taxi driver that I've got a local guy I tried to get my pickers up as soon as we were at the cabin place I hated it I didn't want to stay anyway we got through all that it was fine I settled and then that night he settled I did not I genuinely we'd been together about a year Were we married?

47:25Engaged. I genuinely didn't. I was like, I spoke to my mum the next day and I was like, I don't know if I can marry him. Did you get a taxi from camping? No, because he was just so rude. He was just awful. You know what's the worst thing? We were there with his friends. They weren't even, they're my friends now. God, I don't know how. Were you going through something at the time? Yeah, I didn't want to go fucking camping. Yeah. I hear you. I'll never do it again. I love camping, personally. Horrible. Did you enjoy it? I had a lovely time. I had a lovely, Jordan, I have a nice time everywhere. Oh, really?

47:51are you one of those people I'm just yeah I just don't really yeah I'm alright I'm just happy Chris is like anxious he's a very anxious person but it's that balance I'm learning that man maximises minimises yin yang yeah we're very but what do I get you get exuberance ideas you know movement motivation belly laughs yeah the laughs yeah okay okay no yeah no the pat it's not a love it's like a fever dream fashion all I was going to say address him Chris what she dresses you she doesn't physically put my clothes on like my pyjamas when I'm going to bed she doesn't put them on us I do I do you look great you look great thank you thanks I'll pick this one all I was going to say was we went to play remember at the end of the night we went to play a board game one of our friends we'd never played a board game with that and she was like let's play board games and I fell I was like I'm not playing and we're like no you're good he went and sat in the car yeah yeah because he was like this is you and to be fair she was fucking one of the worst people I've ever played a ball game with in my life bro we had I had to say we on our tour bus back in the day we used to when I was chilling a bit more I was going a bit towards sober at this point yeah yeah after the gigs instead of going out and getting mash up at Tup Tup fucking Palace whatever the fuck yeah yeah we would we would we would get stoned and play poker and one of our band members brought along his girlfriend at the time who he's not with anymore he's now married happily kids everything yeah but this girl and she had not played poker before.

49:20And, you know, poker, if you're a beginner, you're actually really to your advantage because you don't know, you know, people don't know, you know, so you do mad calls. Anyway, so she started doing really well because she was literally doing, making mental decisions and any one of us, you know. And she, I've never known to go to someone's head so quickly, you know, like, give me the money, motherfucker. Didn't know us. Didn't know us. Didn't know us. It's like, oh, did you go out? did he lose oh oh oh someone else gone out oh is it just me am I getting down to the last three fucking smashing it I'm just going you're going to have to leave her because this is outrageous the lack of social awareness is out of this world I don't know you're lucky this is in this context I don't know how that's going to translate anyway they're not together anymore oh well I'm glad she sounds awful it was a lot thank you so much for coming to talk to us this has been honestly how are we going to go back to doing just our podcast with us because I've had such a nice time Honestly It's so good though You guys are so much fun Thank you And it's just You bring joy to a lot of people So I hope you know that Aw thank you He's nice isn't he He is nice isn't he People tell us Which is amazing But I don't know whether Yeah We're not very good at taking comments either Come and move on Come and move on Okay but So but I would love to see you guys If in Shields We're not doing Christmas this year But one time That would be amazing Let's go and get some fish and chips.

50:48That would be so good. I'd love that. That would be so good. I'd love that. We'd go to Colburn's. Have a little vibe. Definitely. Yeah, man. Definitely. All right, thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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From the publisher

It's the first episode of Please Keep Me Anonymous and this week Chris and Rosie are joined by musician, writer, and actor Jordan Stephens!

Chris and Jordan reveal how and where they have met before and Jordan shares his love of South Shields and explains why he met partner Jade at just the right time!

The three talk about Jordan's theatre debut in Entertaining Mr Sloane as well as discussing the importance of theatre as a cultural experience.

As well as all of this, Jordan reads an email from a listener and reveals his competitive side. Escape room anyone??

If you would like your email to be read out by a special guest, email:

shaggedmarriedannoyed@gmail.com

To book tickets to Entertaining Mr Sloane visit: youngvic.org/whats-on/entertaining-mr-sloane

Jordan's book Avoidance, Drugs, Heartbreak and Dogs is available in paperback now!
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