In short
Matt Edmondson and Mollie King promote their new podcast Novel Idea, where they co-write a crime novel collaboratively—Matt writes odd-numbered chapters and Mollie writes even-numbered chapters, then they deconstruct each other’s choices. The episode also covers their personal routines and anxieties (physio comparisons, makeup for telly, travel recovery tools like a spike mat and sauna suit, and why silence/meditation is hard), plus comedy anecdotes (a cash machine “pocket FaceTime” incident and a jingle fight).
Key claims
Brazilian jiu-jitsu “switches off” Chris’s brain; isolation tanks are “torture”; makeup can look great on camera but feels like a “hangover” in real life.
Notable examples
Augustus Smythe is found garrottled by a tie in a paper shredder; Mollie introduces characters like Antoinette Dubeck and Raphaela Bridgerton.
Guests
Matt Edmondson (comedian/TV personality; co-host) and Mollie King (singer/TV personality; co-host).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroducing Matt and Mollie
1:30 to 3:25
Hosts share their first impressions of Matt and Mollie.
“It's called Coherence, just so you know.”
Discussing 'Novel Idea' Podcast
3:25 to 4:51
Learn about Matt and Mollie's new crime podcast and its concept.
“I'd love a dramatic story to be able to tell for the injury.”
Film Recommendation and Its Mystery
4:51 to 6:35
A film discussion leads to an amusing moment about forgetting names.
“I need Argentina and Brazil and then I've got the full set.”
The Pain of Aging and Injuries
6:35 to 10:02
Conversation about personal injuries and the frustrations of aging.
“And they like putting powder on so you don't shine.”
The Physio Dilemma
10:02 to 12:37
Hosts compare experiences with physiotherapists and their treatments.
“and put moisturiser on and then came through and wanted to pat on the back of Rosie.”
Unusual Health Gadgets on Tour
12:37 to 14:00
Discussion about unique health gadgets used while touring.
“That adrenaline, it's been sitting somewhere and it hits you again and the cortisol's up and it hits you and you wake up and you're like buzzing off the gig but you're like, oh my God, I didn't get to bed until one.”
The Benefits of Infrared Therapy
14:00 to 15:00
Explore the health benefits of infrared therapy and personal experiences.
“God, we need to come on tour with Chris.”
Experiences with Isolation Tanks
15:00 to 16:10
Discussion about the discomfort of being alone with one’s thoughts in isolation tanks.
“And you're meant to be in there for an hour.”
Avoiding Silence and Embracing Distraction
16:10 to 17:20
Conversations about the dislike of silence and the need for distractions during relaxation.
“Yeah, so they'll do the one side of the leg and then they do the same.”
Thoughts During Massages
18:32 to 19:32
Reflections on what goes through the mind during massages, including empathy for the masseuse.
“I think Reza used to tour with one, if I remember rightly.”
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Finding Relief in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
19:32 to 20:26
How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu helps in managing anxiety and provides mental relief.
“So if you like that and it might calm down and release, what do you do?”
The Joys and Challenges of Martial Arts
20:26 to 21:43
Discussing the dynamics of practicing martial arts with others and personal anecdotes.
“Me two of my own just was waiting outside and I just literally still sweating, still didn't have my shoes on, ran out of the door.”
Tour Life and Well-Being
21:43 to 22:21
Experiences from touring and the challenges of maintaining well-being on the road.
“once in Manchester and she said to me she was like I need she was the same as you she was like I need them walking up and down me back.”
Nostalgia for JLS and Backflips
22:21 to 22:57
Nostalgic reflections on JLS, backflips, and their impact on performance.
“sometimes we might treat ourselves like if there was a spa in the hotel, then it'd be like, I'm going to nip downstairs for a deep tissue.”
Childhood Memories of Front Flips
22:57 to 24:24
A humorous story about searching for a wheelie bin for a kid who could do front flips.
“I think he went on tour, and on the second tour, I think he's done himself in.”
Imagining a Flipping Prodigy
24:24 to 25:50
Speculating about a child savant who could do impressive flips off a wheelie bin.
“You know, if you could have a superpower.”
Marvel Universe and Movie Recommendations
25:50 to 28:00
A discussion about Marvel movies, starting points, and personal preferences.
“And then we did it the first time round and I loved them.”
Marvel and Superman Discussion
28:00 to 28:19
Exploring preferences between Marvel superheroes and other genres.
“lustful stare at each other and then that would be that and it was really upsetting.”
Movie Preferences and Palette Cleansers
28:20 to 29:59
Discussion on favorite movies and the need for lighter content after darker themes.
“We watched something so awful that we had to put Challenge TV on and watch old episodes of Who Wants to Be Millionaire for an hour.”
The Hunt for an Elusive Film Title
30:00 to 31:39
A quest to identify a memorable film viewed on a plane, involving parallel dimensions.
“It's like a kind of modern day Groundhog Day.”
Mollie and Matt's Novel Collaboration
33:18 to 34:54
Discussion on their creative process of writing a novel together.
“Really quickly, tell us about your new podcast that you're going to be doing because that is why you're here.”
Character Development in Their Story
34:55 to 36:31
Exploring character arcs and dynamics in their novel, including humor and conflict.
“Can you get strangled from the back, though?”
Reader Reactions and Character Dynamics
36:32 to 37:19
Discussing audience reactions to character choices and dynamics in their podcast.
“You know like people try and hide their true feelings about like award shows and stuff.”
Amusing Pocket Dialing Anecdote
37:20 to 41:39
A humorous story about a pocket dial gone wrong during a cash machine incident.
“she's the dance teacher don't say brilliant Chris thank you Chris it's just because I'm a big Antoinette de Bec fan he's a lovely man are we all are we all nearly his posture have you seen his posture?”
Funny Miscommunication in the Car
42:01 to 42:37
Listen to a humorous anecdote about misunderstandings while asking for songs.
“Mine sometimes tries to phone, I ask for songs in the car with the kids and it'll try to phone someone, like someone who I know who's famous, but I'm not on phone call and terms with.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Big news for your kids' lunchbox. Welch's Fruit Snacks are now made without any artificial dyes. A snack parents can feel good about and the same delicious taste kids can't get enough of. All made with no artificial dyes. Try Welch's Fruit Snacks today. Zootopia 2 has come home to Disney+. Let's go! Get ready for a new case. We're the greatest partners of all time! New friends. Gary the Snake. And your last name? Death Snake Dream Team New Habitats Zootopia has a secret reptile population You can watch the record-breaking phenomenon at home Zootopia 2 Now available on Disney Plus rated PG Right now you can get Disney Plus and Hulu For just$4.99 a month for three months With a special limited time offer Ends March 24th After three months plan auto-renews And$12.99 a month terms apply Hello you are listening and watching Shag Marinoid Please keep me anonymous Yes and on this episode We have the hilariously funny and lovely Matt Edmondson and Molly King and we it's the first time I've met Molly it's the first time I've met both of them yeah and they're genuinely lovely people hilarious as well you know and you can tell people are like genuinely really nice not fake not just nice well I've known Matt for quite a while but I haven't seen him for ages so it was lovely to see him lovely to chat with them both and I know you know the intro to this podcast please keep an anonymous is sponsored by the word lovely it is literally all we ever say but we're just lucky to have really genuinely nice people on so far it's been good Molly and Matt are on promoting their new podcast Novel Idea which is a crime podcast where they basically write a novel a chapter each and they'll explain it totally in the show but honestly the way they explain it I'm going to listen it sounds great and we get on to a little bit more about what they both enjoy and they're very different people so the chapters of the podcast and book are going to be very different really nice really good idea and disclaimer at one point we tell them about a film we love and none of us can think of the name of the film.
1:59I quickly Googled it afterwards. It's called Coherence, just so you know. It might be rubbish, though, because we watched it on a plane. It might be. We did watch it on a plane. It might be rubbish. Rate and subscribe. If you're on YouTube, please subscribe. And yeah, enjoy. We had a fight about the jingle. We couldn't settle on a jingle. So this is the jingle. We hope you like the jingle.
2:30Joel Domit, apparently, when he came in, he just had his varicose veins. Because you were taking painkillers. And when he came in, he was on painkillers. Because he just had his varicose veins out. And then I learned that that was a thing. Oh, God. I keep imagining it. I'm sorry, I'm on these painkillers. I pulled my neck. Oh, my gosh. How did you do that? I don't even know. I don't even know. I think I slept funny. That's the most annoying thing. It's the worst. It's so irritating. I've seen two physios. They don't know what to do with me. So on Sunday, I had to go to A &E, and I was like, I just need anything that's going to take this pain away.
3:04Oh, bless you so much. My God, what if I sound a bit weird on this part? No, it's absolutely fine. That would be the real me. Oh, bless you, though. That's awful, isn't it? Sorry about that. I hear that we're just getting to that age, though. We're getting to that age where things start to break. Things start going weird. It's really irritating when you sleep wrong, though. Oh, I know. Your body goes, sorry you didn't do that properly. I'm going to be, yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, I was sleeping. How has anything happened? I'd love a dramatic story to be able to tell for the injury. It's really irritating.
3:35It's not really irritating. Do you want me to hook you up? I know you'll see Nick, aren't you, on Thursday. I'll see Nick, yeah. Anyone who has ever had physio always thinks their physio is the best physio, and I think my physio is the best physio. I need to see your man. You need to see him. He's fantastic. Do you want to have a physio off? Yeah, he's great. Oh, God. He's called David Harris. I do believe my physio will beat your physio. No, no. No, mine is like... Let's see. Let them keep digging, come on. Mine is, why are you the physio? No, I'm not the physio. I was going to say, you're the physio.
4:03No, I am not the physio. Can you get on my back, please? Oh, my God. I'm not the physio. She just stands on me back. She just jumps up and down on me back like a toddler. I'm not the physio. My physio, he's the goat, honestly. You go to him and he's just like, oh, yeah, it's exactly this. He points it out to you on like a diagram. Oh, does he? Yeah. He always does like a, it's like, what's the scan you have when you're having a baby? A son of a grass. He does all that. And then he does his manipulations. And then you come out and you feel healed. And then he gives you some exercises that I never do.
4:35Yeah. I feel like no one ever does the exercises. But yeah, I need someone to go, that's where it's hurting. And here's an elbow. It's time to go see them. Tell me about your physio. England first team physio. I mean, sounds like that. probably decent probably decent and it's such a weird link it's her friend's husband went to uni with him and I got him through nothing to do with me doing anything I do I got him through literally a guy who lives in Hartlepool oh my god that's great also you're ridiculous though because you did Strictly and kept in touch with the physio and he came to our house like all the time yeah that was the Strictly physio I was like this is so weird then I found the England one and then I dropped him like a Yeah, you've got to do it.
5:19Popatino. Blocked him. Ghosted him. Where do you go from there? It's like the Brazilian football team. Who's doing the physio for those guys? I need Argentina and Brazil and then I've got the full set. That's right. Collecting first team physios like panini stickers. I don't know. What were you having done? What's wrong? What do you need physio on? So I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu a bit and I'm too old to do Brazilian jiu-jitsu. And you do need a Brazilian one. I do need a Brazilian one. Not as much now, but when you first start, you think, I'm strong. and you just hurt yourself. But now I'm very calm with it now and I don't hurt myself as much.
5:51How are you doing that? That is good. A couple of times a week when I can. Oh my God. But it's me body goes, stop this. What's your makeup lady called? Claire, would you like her? What do you want? Can I just ask her to check I'm not looking shiny on the monitor? Can Claire quickly check shine? See, I like a bit of shiny. Do you? I don't know. It makes us feel like youthful. Youthful. When you're glowing. There's a fine line between shine and sweat though, isn't there? Thank you so much. I'm trying to teach Matt the difference between sweaty and that youthful shine. And glowing, yeah. The glowing.
6:21I don't think he's got there yet. It's a gold smell. Do you wear makeup for telly? Well, I'm not wearing any now, but if I were on telly, then yes. Yeah. Not a lot, really. You have to drag Chris to the makeup chair. Like, literally. Basically, if I've got a little red mark or something, I'll just have them do that. And they like putting powder on so you don't shine. So you don't shine, yeah. But otherwise, no. I mean, my first ever job was on kids' TV, and there was a woman and she'd done this some course where they have you ever had it where they got like an airbrush literally like a spray oh they used to do that didn't they yeah that was a phase and she was bang into trying it out but she didn't know what she was doing and honestly it was like an inch thick of foundation every day oh right was she trying to tell you something I never understood that I just created a sort of offence yeah yeah yeah it was horrendous oh my god and you get to the end and they give you a wipe and you sort of try and wipe it off and it would be like you'd create a chasm in it full Mrs Doubtfire the first telly I ever did was some TV show on Channel 5 a little chat show on Channel 5 Ian Wright hosted it and they did that to me then and they put the spray on us I remember watching it back it was the first thing ever I watched it back at home and at one point I touched my face and it looked like a ghost was touching my face it looked like a ghost's hand had come from under the table to touch my face It was unbelievable.
7:45I should tan your hands on her. I saw Claire who does our makeup. I wouldn't let her put too much on her face because then she has to tan me hands and I don't like it on me hands because it smells like biscuits. The hands are always the giveaway, aren't they? When you hold them up, it's like, oh, there's the real me. Yeah, the Donald Trump effect. The real me. I've seen makeup artists apply foundation to your legs. Yeah. You're the only person I've ever met that I've seen that has makeup artists on their legs. Well, yeah, because if they're out and I haven't been bothered to fake tan, And I think, do you know what?
8:14These are a bit ghostly. Yeah. Which they often are. Never sunbathing anymore. Then we might put a bit of foundation down there. Oh, yeah, we don't see the sun anymore. Oh, hiding from it. To the point where our friends are having a baby, right? And we're going to a wedding. And the baby, they're like humming and harming about weather to come, aren't they? Yeah. And the baby's going to only be six weeks. And I said to my friend Shannon, I went, Shannon, I don't sit in the sun. I will sit in the shade with that baby. You can go back to bed. Like, I don't do the sun anymore at all. No, me neither.
8:40Nah. I want to see it, but from probably inside. Yeah, I want to feel it for just secondary, like through the shade. Totally. But it means that I'm quite ghostly. But then she's always sat next to me, so it's fine. So then I suddenly get really sun-pressed. I used to say about makeup, when I first started doing tennis stuff and put makeup on, you catch yourself on the camera and you go, oh God, I look young, I look vibrant, this is amazing. And then going in the dressing room afterwards, wiping it off, it's like getting really ill really quick. Yeah. It's like you apply a hangover to your skin.
9:13Yeah, totally. Do you know what I mean? You're just like blotchy and that again and you're like, oh my God, I'm back to reality. And people see you in public and go, oh God. I fully think men should embrace makeup more though. I really do. I really, really do. He's aged well, don't get me wrong. I think men, for some reason in this world, look better than women aging. But you could do with a bit of makeup. You definitely look better with makeup on. Yeah, okay. I live in South Shields, Rosie. I can't keep putting makeup on in real life. You do what you want. I'd kick the shit in Sainsbury's. Someone will jump on us, man.
9:42What would you have him do? Just a bit of concealer. Just a bit of like under eye. Your skin's so good, Craig. I've got makeup on now, man. Oh, right, okay. That's why, that's why. I was going to say, I agree with you. Sorry, I'll take it all back. He's only just started the last, how long? Three years? He's only started using like cream, like moisturiser. Well, I washed me face in the hotel last night before bed and put moisturiser on and then came through and wanted to pat on the back of Rosie. I was like, I've washed my face and put moisturiser on. Yeah, I know, doesn't it? Never, ever, ever.
10:09Really? You haven't aged since the day I met you. You know that, don't you? Well, thank you very much. Yeah. It's because I also never go in the sunshine. Right. I don't drink. Yeah. And I sleep. Are you trying to say alcohol causes aging? I think it does. I won't have a bad word to say against something. It's a conspiracy. You all don't want me to have a good time. I feel fine after two bottles of wine, actually. My day is not ruined at all. I can get through my Saturday with them kids. It's extremely healthy to piss the bed. It's so healthy. What's your problem? Do you know the damage that it does to your knees getting up and going to the toilet in the middle of the night?
10:51We're like the opposite of self-care, which is really not good. We'll go through stages. That's the thing, though. We'll go really, really well. But then when we are having a drink or having a night, we go hard or go home on both sides, in my opinion. We'll sauna, we'll gin, water. electrolytes all that and then when it's a night off it's like you know I'm going to dip this curry in a pizza yeah it's balanced it's all balanced totally you're doing so well Molly for having a bad neck thanks so much the fact that you came in and popped pills here and then you got a bad neck don't start rumors there's nothing worse no but there's not so obviously I'm on tour at the minute and a different pillow every night in a hotel oh no you're not taking yours with you that's just you look like such a don't you travel with your own pillow travel with your own pillow I've got enough.
11:37Do you have any idea how much shit I travel with? Go on. There's all makeup in a bag of foundation. A team of 12 makeup artists carrying all my stuff. All your videos, yeah. I've got a maid on hand to change the bed sheets that I've got. Of course, yeah. All the plastic sheets. Yeah, the plastic sheets, yeah. That's what I've got. Xbox. Xbox. Well, I was going to leave the Xbox to last, but I've got Xbox. I've got a monitor for the Xbox. I've got my hold all with my stuff in while I'm going to go to the venue that day on. I've got my case with all my other stuff. gym stuff, jiu-jitsu stuff, golf clubs.
12:09Wow, gosh, you are travelling a lot. Spike mat. He's on his adult days. How much time off is he going? Exactly, he's on his adult days. Spike mat, what's that? You're just like an acupressure mat. You've seen them. Well, like a bed of nails. Exactly like a bed of nails. Right. Unbelievable. Exactly a bed of nails. He's an anxious bear. He's a bit of an anxious bear child. When you get off stage, you're absolutely buzzing, right? Yeah. And then, obviously, you have a couple of drinks and you're chilling in the hotel and you wind down a bit, but it's still kind of there in you and then sometimes three, four, sometimes six in the morning, it's really bad if it happens at like seven.
12:39That adrenaline, it's been sitting somewhere and it hits you again and the cortisol's up and it hits you and you wake up and you're like buzzing off the gig but you're like, oh my God, I didn't get to bed until one. I can't be up at seven. So if I go to sleep on that mat or if I lie in bed on that mat, it takes all of the... Oh, you're putting in bed. I lie in bed. Sometimes I fall asleep on it and I wake up an hour later and I'm very upset. Is it actually quite painful? When you first get on it, it's really painful. You get used to it You should not be sleeping on that. I thought you just did it for 10 minutes.
13:05Yeah, I thought you were going to be sleeping. I do for 10 minutes, but then I sometimes fall asleep. I'm not lying on a hotel floor. Are you joking? I don't touch hotel carpet. True. Oh, God, no. And does it catch the piss?
13:18That's the real reason he's joking, yeah. It's like a little tray. No, Chris has never pissed the bed. A sauna blanket, a sauna suit. I'm going to take the sauna suit next week as well. A sauna suit? So it's like a sleeping bag, and you climb in it. and it's a sauna. Your head as well or just up the neck? No, just up the neck with your little chin. Do you know not about these things? No. That's amazing. Like a microscope hazmat. It's like a really heavy sleeping bag. Right. A couple of liquid, right, which is obviously a lot less than an actual sauna and you just zip it up, you get in, you've got to have clothes on in it otherwise you will burn yourself.
13:52Okay. But on tour I do towels so I just do a towel on top of it, lying on towel and then a towel on top of it so it's not touching my skin. 35 minutes. How is it? How's it warming up? It's like infrared. Yeah, it's electric. It's plugged in. You sweat, you drip. What's the benefit of it? Sweating out the infrared. It's really good for you. Just sweat everything out. Good for your bones. It's crazy. God, we need to come on tour with Chris. Guys, what the fuck? And you're pissing it, and the piss immediately gets up for you. I thought you'd be well in all of this stuff. You've got really good stuff.
14:25No. Pop star, yeah. None of that. None of this. This is wild. One of the worst things I ever did was, have you ever done an isolation tank? No, I don't believe I could be with my own thoughts. Yeah, it's like a coffin full of water and it's the temperature of your body and it's got salt in it, so you float. So the idea is that it deprives you of all of your sensory input. So it just feels like you're floating there and they close it and there's just sort of faint light on the ceiling, which is about here. I've seen them before. And you're meant to be in there for an hour. And a friend of mine, this is before I knew I had ADHD, a friend of mine said, I wish I'd go and do one.
15:08And I went in and I was there for about 45 seconds. I thought, what am I going to do for an hour? But to be left alone in a coffin with my own thoughts for an hour, horrendous. That's torture. I'll be lying there. You know, Godzilla, Eminem, fill them with the venom and aluminum. Fill them with the venom and aluminum. I don't like silence. I can't deal with it. Do you like silence? I hate it. I hate it. Even when I treat myself to a massage, you know how they've got the lovely spa music? I don't want it. I want an episode of Friends or an episode of a podcast running so I don't have to think about my own thoughts.
15:41Otherwise, I'm just lying there thinking, got to do that, got to do that. Oh, did that go okay? Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Actually, I just want to hear nonsense. I start counting their strokes. And I'm like, I am insane. You've never got out with double digits. I was going to say, what's your pee? You've never got out with single fingers. You've never got out with single fingers. Yeah, we never got up to double digits. One day. No, I'm the same. I think about everything else. I can't switch off. The stroke was just such a terrible word to use. You left, that was an open goal. You know, the stroke, yeah, I'm like, one.
16:11So I get obsessed. I don't know if I've told you this. I get obsessed with the symmetry of it. Oh, yeah. They haven't done long enough. Yeah, so they'll do the one side of the leg and then they do the same. I go, oh my God, they didn't do the same on that one. It's never as long as it. I'm going to be walking around in circles this afternoon. They've broke us.
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18:28I'd have a masseuse. A live-in masseuse. Like Simon Cowell used to have one. I think Reza used to tour with one, if I remember rightly. Incredible. So good, right? Imagine. But I like the pressure to be so, so hard that it causes me physical pain. Oh, my God. And I always say to them, like, they go, is that pressure enough? And I go, just give me everything you've got. And sometimes they take it as a challenge. They're like, I'm going to... I'm going to destroy you. And I love it. I love it. Sometimes they just press the intercom and they're like, he's in again. Can we get you in? Yeah, yeah. Did I hear that right?
19:00Did you just say he likes needles? No, he gets the giggles. Oh, God. He likes it so fun, don't you? Yeah. I once had it where this guy, like, you know when they push in and you can feel the muscle twitch and they just hold it there. And it was so painful. My reaction to it was to, like, laugh hysterically. I was like a joker. It was weird. Wow. That's interesting. And that stops me from having the thoughts because if the pain's there, I'm like, it's so painful, but it's going to end soon. And that's all I can think about. What sort of thing? So if you like that and it might calm down and release, what do you do?
19:37What else do you do? So Chris is riddled with anxiety, right? Same. He has found Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which genuinely is like the best thing ever. Switches your brain off. It's like going in that tank, but you're not in that tank. Yeah. It switches off. So people who are watching and listening to this podcast be sick of me banging on about it but when i get off the mats i've got verbal diarrhea because i've had time off from my own brain and sometimes if i'm when i'm traveling around and i go to with j i did it i didn't tell you this i went to a gym the other week and i literally got off the mats it was just a gym i'd visited on tour i got off the mats and i fucking sprinted out the door because i was like i will tell these people my life fucking story if i don't get out of here now my god the guys in my gym are fine i've known them for ages they just know he gets off the Matt and he can't talk.
20:21If I'm with strangers, they will literally be like, what is wrong with this person? So I had to just sprint out. Me two of my own just was waiting outside and I just literally still sweating, still didn't have my shoes on, ran out of the door. So I was like, I'm going to make a total tosser of myself. With jiu-jitsu, do you do it on your own or have you got someone there like a coach? You've got to fight for someone else. It's a fight. He wanted to buy one of those fake men that you've practiced with at home and I said no. Sorry, I didn't want to buy one. I asked for one for Christmas and I said never turned up none of my presents on Christopher Nolan were wrapped like a man in a gimp suit on the floor it's the worst thing I was like where did you where did you envisage living in the house well exactly bottom of the bed like a dog yeah yeah just wakes up every morning no but there's one of them no but you can there's one of them it's got actual sensors where arteries are and where joints are and if you get it in the right bit it goes tap tap tap it says tap and you go oh my god that's great I wanted to go ouch I want to go I want to go Is that all you got you slug
21:26More pressure Yeah exactly Well listen if you need to karate chop a neck I'm volunteering Oh yeah you should just practice a match As long as it's painful When I did Hebbin the sitcom Hebbin Kimberley Nixon who played me partner in it she went for a massage once in Manchester and she said to me she was like I need she was the same as you she was like I need them walking up and down me back. My God, I don't. Isn't that weird? I'm like, it hurts sometimes. I'm like, oh. But I never tell them. I just go through it. Whatever they say, is that pressure okay? Whatever it is, I say yes. Yeah, well. Even if I'm thinking.
22:01It's because you're people pleaser. I know, I know. Even if I'm thinking, oh, I wish it was a bit firmer. I'd never like lift my head up and go, do you know what? Could you actually go a bit firmer? And then I think, come on, Molly. You're paying for this 60 minutes and she's just there stroking you. Did you not have a pop star days? Did you guys not have like a masseuse around with you? No. Like when we were travelling on tour, sometimes we might treat ourselves like if there was a spa in the hotel, then it'd be like, I'm going to nip downstairs for a deep tissue. But no, we never really had someone following us.
22:29I remember JLS did. They were always on tour at the same time as us. And we were always so jealous. We were like, they've got a masseuse. They've got all this amazing stuff. Got her on condoms. Fucking hell, man. No, we never did. We never did. Oh, you see, you're missing a trick there. I know. It's all the backflipping that Aston was doing. If you were backflipping, then I'd gone for it. True, true, true. He loves a backflip, that lad. Loves a backflip. I think he's hurt himself recently. Really? He's probably doing backflips, that. They were on this podcast, and then I think they went on tour.
22:59He came on from all the tour. I think he went on tour, and on the second tour, I think he's done himself in. Oh, no. He's done a backflip, genuinely. I'm not 100 % sure. I think there's a problem with a backflip. I think if you can do a backflip, you're never going to stop, are you? I think it's a very addictive thing to do. Hello, Benson Boone. Totally. Because everyone's going to want you to do it, aren't they? Yeah. Can you show us the back? And you're like, go on then. So my fear would be three pints in, Ramsey, do your phone backflip. I'm like moving tables in the pub. You'd be doing it. We did.
23:30But if you nailed it, oh my God, what a feeling. We had a mate when we were younger. You used to live opposite him, Chris Simpson. Yeah, he could do backflips. He did gymnastics when he was a kid. And every time it would be like, do the flip. and everyone would be like walking home drunk from the town centre and he'd be just cartwheeling down the street. Every school has one kid that can do a backflip. Yeah. So on the estate I lived on when I was a kid, we used to go across the road to this other bit to play football and there was rumour of a kid who could do a frontflip off a wheelie bin. Was it him?
24:02No, it was a different kid. So it was just this random kid. I don't know if I've told you this. Now he's famous. I'm not kidding, right? so it wasn't bin day so there was no wheelie bins kicking around I'm not kidding we walked around for about an hour looking for a wheelie bin for this lad and we eventually found one it was just on the side of someone's house and we quickly went and got it and we pulled the wheelie bin out and he got it he jumped and he flipped and we were like hey we'll put it back it was what a night what a night the anticipation of trying to find it it was so incredible he would jump up and it was like it wasn't like he turned during the jump he went off the bin full rotation in the air landed perfect it was incredible unbelievable incredible I mean, that is an amazing skill.
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24:42You know, if you could have a superpower. Yours would be flipping off a wheelie bin. I think it'd be up there. I'm not joking. I remember we found a little wall and stuff. We were like, what about this wall? He was like, it's not high enough. It had to be a wheelie bin. Oh my God. And wheelie bins didn't get reduced into my area until after everywhere else. Who was it? Tell us. I don't know his name. I've never seen him since. Oh, he doesn't exist. I've just been watching The Sopranos where Tony Soprano imagines the maid next door and he's talking to her. I think, did I imagine the front flip?
25:08I feel like you did. Oh, my God, maybe you did. I think I've imagined it. I also know all of the gymnasts in South Shields and I don't think I'm in this guy. Now, that is a brag. Fucking brag. That's amazing. It's great. Oh, God. I know all of the gymnasts in South Shields. Incredible. Sorry, what's this? I've heard about... Sorry, where's this guy doing front flips? Oh, North Shields. Fine, not bothered. He's not on the list. He's out of my jurisdiction. No, because we're the same age. We're the same age. We grew up in the same town. And my cousins both went to the gymnasts in South Town said I would have known this guy but what if he was like an untrained natural like a savant a flipping savant yeah yeah yeah he's a prodigy he was just born with it yeah he saw a wheelie bin he was born inside a wheelie bin that's right he climbed out like Bane so good like Bane onto the top and he flipped the world off oh my god oh Bane oh my god that's what we need to watch next what with Robin Batman sorry they're a bit Batmans are a bit dark for a 10 year old maybe a couple of years we've had to miss out a few things haven't we Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness but that's really fucked up that one and I think you'll get a little bit freaked out by it I go on I was going to say can you pause and can I come and join you guys because I've never seen any Marvel and it drives poor Matt up the wall I said to her why don't we get together every week and we'll watch in chronological order from start to finish every Marvel movie and I said we should do it as a podcast that's a podcast I was just about to say that's a podcast thank you Chris I said this and she was like, under no circumstances.
26:40Oh, that'd be so good. Because I hadn't until I met Chris. Uh-huh. And then we did it the first time round and I loved them. I loved them. See, I think I'd be quite into it because, I don't know if this is a reference that's going to make everyone put their head in their hands, but I used to watch Superman with Clark Kent, Dean Cain. Yes. Remember him? That's my cousin's name, by the way. The New Adventures of someone. Really? That's my cousin's real name. That was Terry Hatcher. Oh, what a time. He's now an ICE agent, but let's just not talk about him. Yeah, he's taking a dark turn. Oh, really?
27:10Yeah. Oh, God. Well, I loved that era. Yeah. But the whole Marvel world seems like there's just too much to accomplish. It's like, where do I even start? Well, you start with Iron Man. Right in the beginning. Iron Man. Iron Man or Captain America. Some people, very rogue, some people start with Captain Marvel. Ew. Which I don't understand. Well, because it's set back in... Because it's before the rest of them. Yeah, yeah. No, because the reference to her in Endgame. Is it Endgame? Infinity War. Infinity War, you need to not know who she is at all. Right. So a couple of things, Molly. Before I do pump your head in my hands, first thing, New Adventures of Superman, absolutely awesome.
27:46Were you a fan of Smallville? I never got into that. I remember it being on, but I never really got into it. For me, it just took a little bit too long for me to do his powers. Like every now and then, he'd wake up levitating above his bed and you'd go, this is the episode, and then he wouldn't. He would just, him and Lana Lang would have some kind of lustful stare at each other and then that would be that and it was really upsetting. That's DC, not Marvel. Okay. So, different world. Please don't offend me like that again. Did you like the Batmans when you were younger? Never seen them. Not the ones with like...
28:13Jim Carrey and them. She's never seen any of them. What's his name? None of them. None? Okay. But if you liked the Superman, then there's something there. There's a flicker there. Has Matt explained this to you? Has Matt explained the fact that literally Iron Man and Captain America and Thor, all of these films come out separately and then over a decade they all weave into each other and then they all look I have explained and it's just annoyingly really clever how it all comes together it's absolutely mystifying okay I mean he has explained it have I brain dumped it possibly which is the one where they all come together the Avengers the Avengers yeah and I can appreciate this is so annoying to people who live and breathe Marvel but it's just like a different world Molly please don't leave here thinking that I eat and breathe Marvel please because that would absolutely destroy us like I like it I don't even believe it don't show you a tattoo no I'll not show you any tattoo do you know what it is do you like sort of sci-fi stuff no no what kind of things do you like I need to be oh I love like I need to be able to relate to them like a romantic comedy okay Father of the Bride Father of the Bride oh nice Father of the Bride what else do I like I mean I like sometimes quite dark things but then I need an episode of Friends after it just to like you're like my sister just to remind myself that palette cleanser palette cleanser yes What was it we did that with?
29:32We watched something so awful that we had to put Challenge TV on and watch old episodes of Who Wants to Be Millionaire for an hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't remember what it was that we watched. I think it was a documentary. I love really dark stuff as well, though. Okay. I'm just very... Kind of like everything. Yeah, I just need to be able to relate. So the minute it goes into that sci-fi, just kind of check out a little bit. Then you probably wouldn't like it. Everything I've ever recommended you've not liked. Have you guys seen Palm Springs with Andy Samberg? No. No, but I love Andy Sandberg.
30:01Love Andy Sandberg. It's so good. It's like a kind of modern day Groundhog Day. Right. It's one of these time loop movies. I love stuff like that. Chris, you will love it. Palm Springs. It's so good. You've watched it in four minutes. No, you haven't. And then they just keep repeating it. No, no. They're just setting up the world. It's so good. It's a romantic comedy, but it's also just really clever. Right. And I said, you've got to watch it. It's so good. And you gave it like three minutes. You went, well, the same thing just keeps happening. I was like, yes, that's because it's a time loop movie.
30:29but they're just setting up the world but you couldn't get past it. Oh, we quite like that. Do you know, oh my God, Chris, we watched a film on a plane years ago before we had kids and it was one of the best films I've ever seen in my entire life and I have no idea what it's called. I do, I always have to Google it. I always have to put a really ridiculously convoluted explanation. So something happens. People listen or people watch and know what this is. It's something that there's a dinner party at a house and a comet or something goes overhead and something blows up and some people leave the house and then they come back and it's like the house has been replicated.
31:05Loads of different dimensions have come together and the house has been replicated. So the people coming back are from a different house party, but they're the same people. And it's like a multi-dimensional thing and it's just coming back to a house. Does anyone outside know what it's called? It sounds great. It's fun. And it's just disappeared. We watched it on a plane and we've never seen it since. I've never seen it on anything anyway. It's unbelievably good. So good. But nobody's been able to get the title for you. I don't think it was like hugely popular. So it's just never been, I've never seen it like on Netflix or anything like that.
31:35On IMDb, when I watch things, The Signal and stuff like that, these all these little sci-fi movies, it always comes up and I always forget what it's called, but it's so good. I remember next, I would love to watch that again.
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33:34And the fact that they've got a physio. No. Needed to be done. So Moll and I, obviously best mates, and Enius used to spend more time together, and we had this idea of, would it be possible to write a novel together? So I would start it, I'd do chapter one, and then a bit like one of those drawings, you know, where someone draws a head and then you fold the paper and someone draws the body and then you fold it and someone draws the legs and then you look at it at the end and it's chaos. We thought we'd do that but with writing a book. So I write chapter one but then I hand over the entire storyline and all the characters to Molly who then picks it up in chapter two.
34:08Yeah, I can then take it off in whatever direction I want to. Oh, wow. Do I continue with his characters? Do I continue with his plot line? Kill them off. Exactly. So I'm assuming all of these characters immediately lose their superpowers and then they move into an apartment and you re-off together. Yeah. They're in a cafe in New York. Pretty much. But we have had so much fun. I would say the first few chapters especially have been a bit of a tug of war as to the direction that the story's going in. Yeah, so I introduce... It's a detective novel. It's a murder mystery. And what's frustrating is that I've set up the crime.
34:41It's this guy called Augustus Smythe who is found with his tie in a paper shredder and he's been tugged to his demise as it's chewed up his tie. It's garrotted him. Terrifying, awful, by the way. Awful way to go. Beautiful. And I've got a detective. Can you get strangled from the back, though? Everyone's asking me this. Yeah. Everyone does this. No one's buying it. No, no, no. I think you can still breathe. You have to have his face in there. No, no, because you've got, if you imagine, it's grab the tie. It's going grr, grr, grr. So he's getting pulled. Oh, and it's me. So he's had to have had the short pit of the tie.
35:14Yeah, exactly. So the front, the strangling at the front could even be the paper shredder. Exactly, yeah. It's just something on the front and a tie on the back. I just thought there's no real wind cravers out there. I've got a shits on the concept of people's stuff that they're coming out of promote. But this is the thing, because that's what happens in our podcast. Okay, great. So in the podcast, our friend Stefan reads it aloud. Oh, nice. And then we deconstruct what each other have written and often get quite annoyed by it. Exactly like you just have. Been going like, is that really how someone would die?
35:46Would that be a murder or would that just be a... I'm loving this already because of how different you two are just in the way you're explaining the difference in movies and stuff. So this is going to be a schizophrenic novel. It is. So the lead detective, this guy Ian Chalk, who I am big into, he doesn't feature in Chapter 2 at all because Molly doesn't like him. I don't like the guy. He feels like a bit of a show-off and I hate show-offs. He feels a bit big-headed and I was like, I don't need to write about this guy. So I'm just going to pop into the side and I'm going to write about all of my characters, There's Antoinette Dubeck and all these like dance teachers and people who have like little relationships.
36:21Antoinette Dubeck. That's one of the characters. That's phenomenal. If I read a book, chapter two, you get to it, the characters disappeared and there's a character called Antoinette Dubeck. I'm putting that book through a shredder. Yeah, yeah. It's over. It's rare, I think. You know like people try and hide their true feelings about like award shows and stuff. People are always like, oh, you know, clap along if I didn't win the award or whatever. You know that? I don't think you ever hear genuine frustration or see it, but it's inescapable in episode two of our podcast because I am so devastated at what Molly's written.
36:55You just hear a man slowly losing the will to live. I'm like, I cannot believe you've not mentioned, because I thought she was going to bring him in at the end of the chapter. Brilliant. Not a single fucking mention of the guy. Can we just remind ourselves of one of your best friends, Rhys, who did the other day say to you, thank God for Molly's chapter. she's come in with characters with names that we can remember we've got Antoinette de Bec we've got Raphaela Bridgerton Broadchurch is Antoinette de Bec a dancer? of course of course she's the dance teacher don't say brilliant Chris thank you Chris it's just because I'm a big Antoinette de Bec fan he's a lovely man are we all are we all nearly his posture have you seen his posture?
37:30oh good god he's got a better physio than you yeah yeah he doesn't need a physio if you're walking in a physio they go there's nothing to do for you it sounds it sounds really good genuinely you've saw We laughed so much making it. Brilliant. I love it. And we've properly got stuck into it. Like, it's taken over our lives. I couldn't hand over something I'd written. Mate, I'm struggling. Because Matt sets up the crime in episode one, and I'm the one that writes all the even numbers, so two, four, six, I actually write the final chapter, which I'm yet to do. So I have to sew up all the final threads.
38:04She's going to solve the crime. And I know, in my body, I know who did it. but I'm not going to get to say you can't. Molly, can I give you just one suggestion? Go on. One sentence? And it was all a dream. Don't, don't. This is his biggest fear. That would piss him off. That would piss him off so much. Biggest fear. That would be awful. Don't, Chris. I've got a bit of Dallas going on. We'll never work together again. I don't enjoy that. I don't like the dream. And it was all a dream. I'm like, no, absolutely not. And a hand comes in and presses stop on the remote and you've been watching a DVD.
38:40Awful. No, had you? He never talked to me again. I've littered clues throughout my chapters. She stopped picking them up. You've invented board games and that. You're like proper, oh, great. He's desperate for me to pick up these little crumbs he's leaving and I'm just going, bop, bop, and creating my own story. Brushing them away. I have faith. Beautiful. Gorgeous. We're going to do this question. We just chat so much. We just can't stop. We're so excited when other people are here. Anyway. Right, shall we do this? Yes. Okay. Dear Chris and Rosie, a while back, I was running late to meet some friends for a drink and I remembered I needed to get some cash out.
39:19As I was heading to the cash machine, I noticed a quite handsome guy heading towards it too. So I picked up the pace and ran past him to jump in front. Oh. I put my card into the machine and typed in my PIN number. Suddenly, the screen went blank. Just a white screen. I panicked, as you would, as I thought, of course, the machine had eaten my card. It then displayed, please wait on the screen for about 20 seconds. I turned to him and showed him that there was an issue. Suddenly, I heard a faint phone ringing sound coming from the machine. I obviously thought this was strange. So I was staring at the machine, bewildered, and then the ringing stopped and I heard, Sarah?
39:58I was like, what on earth? I didn't know this was a thing, but the machine must have somehow picked up who I was and the customer service team were trying to assist me. Molly? I leant forward to the machine and I said, hello? It responded, Sarah, hello? I replied, hello? Yes, I can hear you. The machine isn't working. I don't know what to do. Followed by ramblings of what the issue was and the fact that I didn't think I'd lost my card, etc. I kept talking, getting my face closer and closer to the screen so they could hear me, then silence. Here we go, guys. Wait for this. Oh, God. The handsome man behind me then tapped me on the shoulder and said, I think that voice is coming from you.
40:43I think it's coming from your pocket. Oh, no. Oh, God. See? No. I'll just talk. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I took my phone out of my pocket. And yes, I had somehow pocket FaceTimed my dad. Oh, no. Oh, no. And he was the one shouting my name. Oh, my gosh. while I had my head fully planted into the cash machine, shouting out like an absolute moron. I hadn't noticed that the screen had gone back to normal in this time and eventually managed to obtain my funds. The man stifled his laughter like an absolute gent. What a gent. But I don't think he'll forget the girl that screamed into a cash machine for no reason.
41:25Way to make a first impression. I'm still single, isn't it? I'm still single and still cringe when getting the cash out. Oh, bless her. Easily done. Easily done. That is so good. How are people still pocket dialing? That's a fuck. I get pocket dialed quite a lot. Do you? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I always pocket dial people. Really? Because I use Siri quite a lot. Yeah. And sometimes it just decides. Yeah. You'll say like, oh, can you play this song? It's like calling Gary Bishop. You're like, I haven't spoken to Gary for 15 years. My son. Yeah, you're right. Actually, it's similar. Mine does the same. Mine sometimes tries to phone, I ask for songs in the car with the kids and it'll try to phone someone, like someone who I know who's famous, but I'm not on phone call and terms with.
42:09So if they saw a missed call from me, people might have hair up. I'm calling it Freestyles. It's not a Jimmy Carr before? And I'm like, I know him, but I'm not going to give him a ring on a Tuesday afternoon. Jimmy, just in the car with the kids. Got any jokes? Yeah. Sing us a song.
42:25Guys, thank you so much. It's been so lovely. Thank you. Thank you. Best of luck with the podcast. It sounds amazing. Oh, thanks so much, guys. I'm going to Google what that film was and I will let you know. Yeah, put it in the show notes because I'm going to listen back to this. I'd like to know what it is. Right, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, God, look at the movie. You will enjoy it. Molly will not even watch it. And I'm fine. I feel like I know the dang on me. I'm going to get one of those pin beds, though, to lie on. It's really good. Amazon. 20 quid on Amazon. 20 quid. It's really good. I'm going to buy a plastic sheet.
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On this week's Please Keep me Anonymous Chris and Rosie Ramsey are joined by Radio Royalty, the brilliant Mollie King and Matt Edmondson.
Matt and Mollie are on to talk about their new podcast Novel Idea
but in true Chris and Rosie fashion the conversation goes in all kinds of directions including fake tan, massages, sauna blankets and The Marvel Universe!
Mollie and Matt also read a hilarious (and mortifying) story from a listener.
You can listen to Mollie and Matt on Radio One, weekdays from 1pm and you can find their podcast Novel Idea wherever you get your podcasts!
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