In short
Natalie Cassidy joins Shag, Married, Annoyed (Please Keep Me Anonymous edition) to discuss her documentary Caring Together, her podcast Life with Nat, parenting and family life, swearing/cursing habits, and whether she’d get Botox. The episode also includes a “keep me anonymous” listener story about accidentally assembling a sex bondage cage from a yard-sale tent/canopy, plus chat about podcasts going video, stage/podcast milestones, and holiday plans.
Guest backgrounds
Natalie Cassidy is an actress known for long-running TV work (including EastEnders) and has a qualification in health and social care. She records Life with Nat at home as a one-person operation.
Key claims
She earned a distinction in Caring Together after returning to study; she hasn’t had Botox and says she’s cautious/“never say never”; she curates explicit music for her child; she values real, unscripted conversation.
Notable examples
“Stan” clean version still includes frequent “shit”; her child’s early teen “hell on earth” phase; the yard-sale “front lawn” bondage apparatus story; selling out O2 with the podcast.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Joy of Swearing
0:03 to 0:27
Explore the humorous perspective on swearing and family dynamics.
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The Joy of Swearing
0:31 to 0:48
Explore the humorous perspective on swearing and family dynamics.
“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”
The Joy of Swearing
2:13 to 3:19
Explore the humorous perspective on swearing and family dynamics.
“Jingo We hope you like the Jingo Jingo Jingo Like the bloodies The bloodies and the shits They're not too bad are they?”
Teenage Challenges
3:20 to 4:50
Discuss the trials of parenting teenagers and their emotional changes.
“So it's so funny because I say the F word quite a lot.”
Navigating Music and Language
4:51 to 5:56
Navigating the challenges of what music is appropriate for children.
“And I keep having to say to you, don't I?”
Career Reflections
5:57 to 8:00
Reflect on careers in entertainment and the transition between jobs.
“But what I haven't told you, actually, Rosie, is me and Robin, our 10-year-old, he loves a bit of Eminem now.”
Life After EastEnders
8:01 to 13:12
Discuss the changes and opportunities post-EastEnders and the documentary experience.
“where I took it out of the basket and put it in a different cupboard.”
Podcasting Journey
13:13 to 14:01
Discuss the evolution of podcasts and the difference between early and current formats.
“There's millions and millions of them coming out and you must be like, oh God.”
Embracing Authenticity in a Video World
14:01 to 19:08
Discussing the shift from audio to video in podcasting and the challenges of maintaining authenticity.
“Because it's so different to the telly world, where it's all quite...”
Reflections on Beauty Standards and Aging
19:10 to 28:00
Exploring personal experiences with beauty treatments and societal pressures around aging.
“Our brand new movie, Voicemails for Isabel, is all about those little moments that feel like the universe is looking out.”
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The Fun of Hair Talk and Parenting Insights
28:00 to 31:20
Discover humorous anecdotes about hair and parenting challenges.
“I meant, did you look like Buddy the Elf in Elf?”
The Surprise of a Sex Dungeon
32:48 to 36:19
Enjoy a hilarious story about mistakenly assembling a bondage cage.
“So, dear Chris and Rosie, please keep me anonymous.”
Reflections on Adulthood and Old Souls
36:20 to 38:06
Engage in a light-hearted discussion on maturity and having an old soul.
“My niece, Elliot, said, Natalie, just book something different.”
Reflections on Adulthood and Old Souls
38:17 to 38:38
Engage in a light-hearted discussion on maturity and having an old soul.
“Pandora jewelry brings the sparkle to your summer.”
Reflections on Adulthood and Old Souls
38:40 to 39:20
Engage in a light-hearted discussion on maturity and having an old soul.
“Every act of change begins with a neighbor, with someone saying, We take care of each other here.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Rosie Ramsey:So good, so good, so good. New summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. Get ready to save big with up to 60 % off brands like Rag & Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordi Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.
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0:52Rosie Ramsey:hello everyone you are listening and watching shag married annoyed please keep me anonymous edition part of the shag married annoyed extended universe um yeah today we are joined by the brilliant uh natalie cassidy oh i just love her yeah i just love her so well that's that's because you're the same person as we find out in this in this episode um it's ridiculous it's like we're talking to the same person a cockney version of you yeah madness i wonder if we are actually like kind of related but definitely separated at birth and she's definitely down here and i'm up there definitely not moving on um so natalie's on uh she's promoting a eight-part documentary series natalie cassidy caring together uh sounds amazing she actually gets a qualification in health and social care um yeah brilliant she's also talking about her podcast life with nat which she records life of nat in it chris hasn't stopped doing her accent not when she was here because i was actually like legit scared of her you'll find out on our podcast she talks about the highs and lows of everyday life with different members of our family and it's available wherever you get your podcasts little advice to her never work with your family it doesn't work out it doesn't work out we're not like family now if you're watching this on YouTube please subscribe that would be lovely and yeah enjoy
2:13Rosie Ramsey:Jingo We hope you like the Jingo Jingo
2:21Jingo
2:22Rosie Ramsey:Like the bloodies The bloodies and the shits They're not too bad are they? No they're okay Jesus Christ Robin gives a Jesus Christ now and then doesn't he? Yeah he does The blasphemous yeah Yeah and for God's sake I don't like actually God's sake Come on it's goodness sake Yeah fair enough I say yeah So does yours Yours doesn't drop the F She has dropped the F-bomb a few times. But knows that it's wrong. Right. But when you're sat watching Motherland and Friday Night Dinner. Yes. And it's all my fault. But I'm like, that's an adult thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're intelligent, you don't need to swear.
2:55But I swear all the time. Oh, God, no. Oh, God, I love swearing. I love swearing. Oh, it's cathartic. What's your favourite swear word? Oh. Probably fuck. Yeah, probably F-A-D. It goes everywhere. It's a good. I like bollocks. Bollocks is good. I never say bollocks. Because it can be really good as well, can't it? It's like the dog's bollocks. Yeah, yeah. Or you look at bollocks. Yeah. Or this is all bollocks.
3:19Rosie Ramsey:Love it. It just explains every single emotion. So it's so funny because I say the F word quite a lot. But when I was growing up, I did not... My mum and dad are not really like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they managed to never, ever say the F word until... I think I didn't hear my dad say it until I was in my 20s. Oh, wow, that's amazing. Really good. And I remember hearing them and being like, oh, my God. do you know what I mean like really taken aback by hearing it no they're not but they're not like I love them to death but they weren't like I don't know it was just one of their things I think they just made a pact of like we don't swear in front of the kids we don't swear in front of the kids and they really stuck to it so when I heard him say it I mean now I hear it all the time but when I was really taken aback and I was just like dad it's interesting having a 15 year old now because she's yeah and she'll up talking and she'll be like you know I just can't fucking believe and I said whoa whoa whoa you're not talking to your friends now I find it really jars I say don't swear please don't swear how did you find the teenagers with the girls Eliza matured really early so actually 12 and 13 were hell on earth hell on earth really really bad wow just hormones just awful awful just can't do anything right screaming shouting doors slamming all of that wow But really now, she's 15, nearly 16.
4:41I feel she's come out of it. I mean, I could have another shit time coming. I don't know. Right, okay. But as it stands, touch wood. Touch wood.
4:48Rosie Ramsey:She's been really good. Oh, it's so hard. So our oldest is 10. Yeah. And I keep having to say to you, don't I? I'm like, there's testosterone raging through his little body. It's funny how you've got a set to him when he's got it. Isn't that insane? I have to say that to you. I don't think I've ever had much testosterone, I'm going to be honest with you. Yes, you have. Don't say that. Although you have got a very, very good head of hair. Yeah. Have you heard that about men? Right. What is it? Apparently men, bald men, you know how they've got loads of hair? Usually bald men have got loads of hair of the rest of their body because they've got loads more testosterone than men with a full head of hair.
5:25Rosie Ramsey:Oh, Mark's got a full head of hair. What is testosterone level like? Well, who knows? Get him tested, eh? What an incredible thing to ask him. I looked it yesterday, Rosie. It's just a dipstick like a car. You pull it out, you're white, you put it back in, you check the level. That's exactly how you check testosterone. You're quite chill. I think there is some blokes who are a lot more testosterone-filled. Yeah, I think I'm a lot, yeah, I'm not an angry... No, he's very, very laid back, very calm. I mean, I'm a ball of anxiety, but I'm not like a... So, yeah. But what I haven't told you, actually, Rosie, is me and Robin, our 10-year-old, he loves a bit of Eminem now.
6:04He loves listening to Eminem. So I've obviously got to carefully curate which ones he can listen to, because sometimes it's not just swearing, sometimes it's just awful themes. But sometimes we'll be listening to one and it'll say on Spotify, like they'll not have a little E next to it. They'll not have a little explicit. I'll go, oh, this one's fine. And halfway through it'll drop an F-bomb and we'll be driving like that and we'll just literally look at each other. Don't say anything. I'll just look at him and he looks at me and we'll go like that. And then one of them, which one is it? It's Stan.
6:28The clean version of Stan on Spotify says shit five or six or seven times. Really? And every time, and it said more and more, and Rob's sitting there going, oh he's going oh god and every time i swore he was going dad he keeps sweat i went i know man i went just don't say it i don't want to hear you say it but it's a really good song and he loves the song stan and he likes he likes the fact that it's got a narrative yeah so he's like obsessed with songs that i've got a narrative on them so but yeah he says shit like loads and loads of times and every time again we just look at each other just a little glance and he knows that i'm saying you know what i'm saying and he's like i know what you're saying and we'll move on that's Good.
7:04Yeah. And then we'll stop and I go right and fuck off out the car. That's good.
7:08Rosie Ramsey:You little shit. He's like, oh, I've heard that one. It's really lovely to see you. And you. When did we do So and Be? I was trying to remember. I think it's about four years ago. Is it? Yeah. God. Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that. Four years ago. Well, you weren't there, so you wouldn't know, would you? I think you'll find I was given updates every night after you had finished after everything get texts get phone calls you were amazing on that I was yeah you were that like Gallagher cloak thing you made was amazing it was really good the planet of it all it all fell apart I took it home you know did you Rosie took hers home did I yeah brought them home I'm bringing my stuff back brought it home in a bag it went in a basket they bought my stairs it stayed in the basket until until possibly a couple of months ago where I took it out of the basket and put it in a different cupboard.
8:03You've never touched it or looked at it since. This is so true. Clutter. I put mine in the bottom of the spare wardrobe and it's still in a bag of special.
8:10Rosie Ramsey:I'm like, I'll keep this forever. The nostalgia. Couldn't give a shit. Get rid of it. That was a really great, it was a mad programme because I did not know how to sew at all. Or me. But we managed to do it and make stuff. We did all right. Yeah. The mad thing about those programmes is it's August, we're baking, and it's Christmas, isn't it? So you've got all snow-filled rooms and Christmas. It's a little bit like a cheese dream. It was absolutely... It was. It was boiling, wasn't it? And we were doing the Christmas special. Yeah. Yeah, I do remember... OK. So that whole couple of years, so I had Rafe, and our world went insane.
8:48Rosie Ramsey:And because, obviously, I'm living my dream, I didn't want to say no to anything. No, of course. But, honestly, I had a bit of a breakdown. Not a huge breakdown, very private, sort of, just in my own bed. It was a day-by-day breakdown, though, wasn't it? It wasn't one moment. It was a drip-fed breakdown. Yeah, just did too much. And I'm just glad that that part of my life is over now. But you can't say no, can you? No, I don't. I did it last year when I did the documentary, when I was filming it. So I come out of EastEnders. Which we're going to talk about in depth very soon, yes. Oh, yeah, we've got to.
9:18But when I came out of EastEnders, I made the choice, and I was like, I've got to be brave. Been in the job for ages. and it's regular money. This is the second time I left. This is the second time, yeah. You know, I was 41 and I thought, no, I need to get out of here. It was weird, really, because the pattern was, I started when I was 10, I did 12 years, had eight years off, and I went back for 12 and I left. So maybe I'll go back in eight years, you never know, do you? Yeah. They didn't kill her off, did they? No. So she's still very much alive. She's still alive in Bali. Wow. In Bali. She took her little baby to Bali.
9:56She was about two days old with no passport. It's hilarious. Campus thing. Hand luggage? Come on, we're off to Bali. See you. See you later, everyone. Well, you can assume, though, you know, like a bit of artistic licence, that maybe she went to the local passport office on the way. Off Stockton, Victoria. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sort of that, and then went, yeah. There's one in Durham that we can go. There's one in Durham that...
10:21Rosie Ramsey:No, but actually, if your child isn't registered, I think I've got a register I don't think the birth was registered Jesus Christ read between the lines Rosie she went not everything has to be filmed she went to the town hall she got it sorted then she sorted the passport she stayed over maybe a couple of nights in a travel lodge just a city centre travel lodge family room and then she jumped and played in a bar and she's gone the only problem with that in the script it said come on we've got to go the flight's at six so the flight I'm going to fix this the internal flight to Newcastle airport because she was going to Durham to get our passport renewed at the place I was just about to mention that we go to.
10:54There we go. Very good. Did you specifically say the flight to Bali is in 10 minutes? Probably, yeah. It's Soap World. Anything can happen in Soap World. Honestly, I don't think I can fix this. I don't think I can fix this. I'm so mad. So you came out and then you were saying you did the documentary. Yeah, and I thought, right, what am I going to do? And then this opportunity came up for the documentary and I'd looked after my dad. My dad lived with me. I was really lucky to have him with me for ages. he was like my best friend and he stayed with me and all the family and when i lost him i was with him right till the end and loved caring for him and then i spoke to this production company you know how they do you've got any ideas what do you want to do you know what it's like yeah and i said well i've not really been in education for ever since i was 16 i did the bare minimum and i had a job so so you did but when you were 10 you started you still so you did that alongside school yeah my god was that mental yeah but you're only there sort of 40 days a year because of the laws and then when you're 13 it goes up to 80 days.
11:52But what was that like being on a huge show while being at school? It just was what it was like. I think it's mad, isn't it? Because you don't know any different. Yeah, exactly that. People say, oh, but you've been famous. I can't remember not being recognised. Yeah.
12:07Rosie Ramsey:It's just my life. I think now as well, I keep trying to pair my kids like we're in the 90s and we're not in the 90s anymore. You tell me off all the time and I'm like, yeah, but when we were kids you're like they do not have our life that we had like in so many ways they do not have the same life it's so true is what we had like and it's yeah so that that must have been but you didn't know any different didn't know any different no and I loved it it was brilliant lucky place to work yeah and again like you say in this world as well it's like a it's like a mortgage pair it's like a boom that sort you've got this regular job like you say it's like you can do your panel shows you can do your this you can do that you can come on podcasts but then you've got bang, the day job, the real bang, constant whack, whack, whack.
12:50And that is so rare. In this industry, it's so rare. What we do is so rare. It's like, like you say, having a proper job.
12:57Rosie Ramsey:Why is it seven years later we're still doing the podcast? We can't believe it. Because it's like, okay, but this is a secure income. You're like the OGs of podcasting. I said to Chris earlier, I was on the train thinking, well, you're like the top, the first. Do you know what? You must think, what are all these idiots doing? We've been doing this for so long. I wouldn't. I've never seen that. There's millions and millions of them coming out and you must be like, oh God. It's a little bit late for them. Would you love to know whose idea it was to start? Yeah. It's mine. Of course it was. God, I hate it when we have female guests.
13:31Rosie Ramsey:I went to do a podcast and Chris went, what's a podcast? I didn't say what, I said what's the point. I knew you were a podcast. Oh no, sorry, you'd listen to the Ricky Gervais one. Yeah, but I was like, what's the point? I was like, what's the point? You're going to waste this. He's pointing at his face, by the way, for the audio here. But I'm a huge fan of podcasts. I would not have known what a podcast was seven years ago. Did you not? No. No. And now you've got one? Yeah. Yeah. We've been doing it for two years. Do you love it? I do love it. Yeah. I find it really freeing. I think it's really...
14:02Rosie Ramsey:Because it's so different to the telly world, where it's all quite... You've got to be very careful and scripted and all that kind of stuff. I think on our podcast, we're just like... Run free. Yeah. And I love that about it. It has changed, I think, though, with all the video stuff. I think, you know, for you guys, when you started, it was just very free because it was audio only. And now it's changing and you're seeing even, you know, spin-off television shows going and podcasts taking over. So everything changes, doesn't it? I just sound like an old person. No, we hate that it's videoed now.
14:36We hate that we have to get ready, ready.
14:37Rosie Ramsey:I used to do mine in my pajamas. Have you seen my videos? No, no. I look like a boiled egg No you don't So some of them if I've been out for the day I look okay But I will sit there, hair scraped up, no make up on Pyjamas on I don't get my make up or anything done I put a bit of make up on, I try and do my hair But it's very much like I will show you what I look like on some of them You won't believe it, Rosie But then I just couldn't care less But that's what people like about you You're real You're a real woman And I think we're losing that in the world. Oh, of course we are. So don't ever change that.
15:16Rosie Ramsey:I would never. Do you know what I mean? It's hard though, isn't it, for us? Yeah. We talk about this a lot. When you're looking at everybody else, I think there's a lot at the moment. It actually spurs me to go the other way, though. I've never had a Botox injection in my life. No, here we go. I don't really have... What do you mean? Here we go. This is her. You're talking her language. No, I'm the same. We are burning bras here. We are burning fucking bras, guys. I tell you what I think. We're going to make a fortune. In what way? In years to come. Right, okay, how's that? Because we're not, there's so many, we're going to be, it's going to be so rare to have someone who's had nothing done.
15:52That's true. I did have my boobs done years ago though. Did you? I did. What did you get? Get out. A job or lift or what? Huh? A job, I was 19 or 21 and I was much bigger down below and I wanted to leave myself out but that annoys me now. Having daughters. But you were on the telly and you had money. yeah i know and you've been recognized since you were 10 that does something to a person i actually
16:13Rosie Ramsey:think the fact that you've never had more than that done is really commendable bearing in mind that you've had to say your face on the television yeah since you were 10 year old i i think i think that's a really really good but my thing is though right so i genuinely before you do this point can we just take a moment to say how genuinely terrified i was when you mentioned botox now and i hear we go and she literally looked at us i'm like what do you mean i literally i'm not i'm not kidding i shat my pants a little bit she literally looked at her she went what do you mean and i was like i'm on your side i was talking fuck like uh i might have to change my pants after this carry on but it's a hard it's a hard conversation because all my mates get it done and you know what they look fucking lush they genuinely do i agree with you i'm literally like my friend started doing it a couple of years ago and i was like what you've had botox you look amazing they look great but i just find it's my whole argument on it is i find it sad that they've felt that they've had to have it done.
17:10But have they felt they've had to? No, they wanted to. Sometimes they just want to.
17:14Rosie Ramsey:Yeah, I get that. But also, if it wasn't a thing, I don't know. It's a really tricky... And I'm not saying that I'm never going to get it. But I'll tell you what, Rosie, our skin's cracking. We have got quite... You've got really good skin. I did notice it when I walked in. You've got very good skin. So maybe we're being a little bit disingenuous because we do. We're quite lucky, Jeans. Yeah. And I'm also a massive hypocrite because I spend hundreds of pounds on my creams and my toners and everything. So the money that I'm not spending on Botox, I spend on creams. The layers of cream on her face on a night.
17:45It's ridiculous. Her head's three times the size it is now when she goes to bed.
17:48Rosie Ramsey:It's ridiculous. Because it's just layers of cream. So maybe I'm also feeding into a world of... The other side of the world. What were you going to say? You sleep with what? Make-up on. Don't wash my face. Really? Not all the time. Sometimes I'll put one of those masks on. The peel mask. Yeah. Or the Hannibal Lecter at the bottom of the lift shaft face. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have just got really good genes. I drink a lot of water. Yeah, I do as well. But I also drink a lot of wine. So do I. So do I. I don't know. Swing some roundabouts. Botox question. This is like the same character being played by someone from the north and someone from the south.
18:26It's ridiculous. It's like Cockney Rosie and Geordie Rosie.
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19:56Rosie Ramsey:would you get it done though in the future Botox yeah depends never say never I'm the same because now I see all my friends but I think we're at the how old are you if you don't mind me asking no of course not 43 43 I'm 40 this year I feel like oh you're young really young 3 years old no I know but you're in your 30s you're still in 30s oh for another couple of months we're literally 27 days different to each other yeah I'm the 3rd of August She's the 30th of August. Yeah, we're both 40 this year. Cracking, what are you doing? You've got to do something large, surely. I've already done it. I've just got back from a golf trip.
20:32I went and played golf with my mates.
20:34Rosie Ramsey:I went to Verona with my mum and my sister. Oh, that's lovely. We're so lucky because we work together. Whenever we come down to London to do this, we have a night. You have time together, yeah. We have lovely nights. We're really lucky in that way. So actually, I don't feel like we need to do it. We're going on a lovely family holiday. Yeah. Quite a spendsy one next month, aren't we? Nice, nice. So I feel like we are doing some lovely little things and we might have a little gathering of the friends we chatted about. But, yeah. So, yeah. I was saying, when you've done the stuff we've done, we've sold out the O2.
21:05We've done all these huge things. Massive things, yeah. These massive things. Isn't that mad to sell out the O2 with a podcast? Don't you think that's mad? That was nuts. It was insane. It was nuts. You can't really remember it. Wasn't you in the Guinness World Records? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we were literally, we couldn't remember, like we couldn't barely remember it. It was a whirlwind, wasn't it? I mean, I get excited when I see that Hartford Beam, which is like 140 people or something, and I feel really proud. But that's 140 people. I will never, ever not be so humbled. That people come out.
21:36Honestly, looking through the curtain, when they're sitting down, they're taking their coats off, they're putting their bags down, they're sitting down and they're looking, getting ready for it to come out. It's the most incredible feeling in the world. And people think I'm full of shit when I say, I have moments on stage where I'm still like, I can't believe you're here. It's so true. and you're listening and you're laughing it's mental it's so true point being when you've done stuff like that together as well your two of them went and stayed in a nice hotel and so filling the local community centre with your mates and putting a spread on it's like it's nice but we didn't need to do that do you know what I mean it's like it's fine thanks for coming but I'd rather just had a quiet one and went for a curry we don't need everyone here
22:07Rosie Ramsey:we're proper like foodies so for us that's all I want to do I'm like I just want to go for a meal tasting menu oh my god with the wine pairing get a bit of cheese at the end Have you been to the Leadbury? She doesn't do cheese. I don't like cheese. Have you been to the Leadbury? No, what is the Leadbury? Just write it down and go, please. Where is it? Not in Hill. Oh, okay. The Leadbury. Right. The Leadbury. Right. The Leadbury. Oh, I haven't heard of it either. You need to go there. Is it a tasty menu? Wine pairing? It's extortionate. Of course it is. But I think, do you know what it is? I think if you work hard, I always kind of put it to different ways.
22:44Rosie Ramsey:You know, sometimes my friends and that, we like really nice wine. I don't go out very much. I think we are the same person. I think we are. It's horrible. I'd rather spend£30 on a nice bottle of wine and have it in the house, pay me mortgage for, that I love, right, in my pyjamas, being comfortable watching film. But I like going to the pub. Mark and I will always, we'll pop over the pub. Yeah. But we don't really do, I like being at home with the kids. Me too. I enjoy being at home. This is so horrible. I love being at home. You know when people go, oh, you've got to go out. You've got to have a life.
23:16You've got to go away. on your own I don't want to go away on my own I like going away with my family Rosie's perfect idea of a night is she's sitting in the house she's having a drink she's watching the telly the kids and me we're around but we're not bothering her like we're there but we're not bothering her so in a perfect way I may be doing bedtime and you're just sitting with a glass of wine that's a perfect night
23:36Rosie Ramsey:I just always want to be I want to be near them because I just feel like I don't know it's like a lovely feeling but I don't want them to bother us I want to go in the back She wants them to be there, but she doesn't want to have to get up to make a juice. Yeah, I don't want to have to get up and do anything. That's what I want from your 40th. I've said this before. I want a night in the house from, let's say, from four o 'clock, right, from when they get into school. You do everything. They can come and say hello to us. I want to cuddle. They can have five minutes each. I want cuddles and stuff.
24:06Rosie Ramsey:But I don't want to have to do anything and I don't want them to bother us. Can I have that? No. I'll go in the nice room. I'll shut the door. Okay. Right? Yes, of course you can have that. You can have that tomorrow night when we get home if you want. I'm not bothered. Oh, you canny. My nice lounge has now got a lot of kids stuff in it, which is really upsetting. Oh, you've got to be strong. I tell you what, I try. But because the nine-year-old now, she's just watched The Devil Wears Prada. So she watched the first one. The first one. And then we went to the cinema. Oh, did she love it? Watched the second one.
24:33She didn't really like the second one as much, but I think it's when you know the first one, the second one is all the nostalgia. You're right, Nodgy. I was crying all the way through. But she wants to play that now. so she gets all of my magazines, Tate magazines and Vogue magazines and old ones and she has them all and I have to do, I have to be my Wall Street. I'm like, that's all. And we play the game but she's in the lounge that's where the magazines are so there's suddenly a laptop and a notebook and a pencil and I'm like, I can't have this.
24:57Rosie Ramsey:I know. Not in the nice lounge. I know. We've got such a big age gap between our two that they don't necessarily like the same TV programmes so the older one has slipped into the nice room and I'll just find like, I'll find like ice lolly sticks like on the side of the sofa and then I'll, and I'm just like, oh Jesus Christ. we haven't talked about this. Has he got his heart out on the sofa? I don't know. We haven't talked about this but he, the way he, he finishes an ice lolly and then he chews that stick. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Within an inch of its lap. I'm like, mate, you're going to get splinters in your gums.
25:33Chews everything. How are you doing it? He just chews everything. It's you. It's you. You're a chewer, aren't you?
25:37Rosie Ramsey:I loved a good chew when I was a kid. We're going to do this question because we have just sat and chatted. Hold on, let's quickly, very quickly. Go on. What's the question? I was just going to, before we finished, mention Nat's podcast, Life with Nat. Oh, that's very good. She records at home and she's a one-man band. She does everything. Well, you say everything. No, you get the WhatsApps and everything, don't you? I get the WhatsApps on my phone, yeah. Wow. There's a lot to go through. That's insane. But it's good. A lot of them just like, Love Juni Stenders. No, they love the topics, don't they?
26:11People are very passionate. I've got another thing to ask you.
26:14Rosie Ramsey:Dead quickly. Did you enjoy Mighty Hoopla? It was so good. It looked so good. I'm desperate to go. Honest, it was brilliant. You've got to go. It was so fun. It's just a wonderful, massive, big LGBTQ festival. It's like pride in a festival. It just looks amazing. Wow. And I went on a Sonia. They asked me to go on a Sonia. And I actually got my niece, who's on the problemate, She got me on eBay a peach bridesmaid dress. And I took my trumpet and I was on stage and the gays went mad. I died. Well, do you know Hunsnet? Yeah, of course. Do you know Gareth from Hunsnet? Yeah, lovely Gareth. He used to be my boss at Pondons.
26:50Rosie Ramsey:Yep. Brilliant. And then I worked in Rhodes with him for two years. Oh. And he's just living his dream. Oh, he's doing amazing. And it's so good to see. I know, it's class. Yeah. He's such a nice guy. But yeah, that's amazing. Right, okay. But we're going to do these. Yeah. I was going to ask about the documentary. I didn't even enter the documentary. we have it's just great I love that the doc's been a success it's been amazing people can relate to it there's 8 episodes half an hour it's on daytime but you can catch it on iPlayer caring together caring together and it's just very real it's not sexy it's not glamorous but you've got your health and social care you've went and done it got a distinction what I can't believe it Good for you.
27:33That's amazing. Crammed in the work as well. See, well, yeah. And that's proper, that's not tellied. You genuinely got... No, no, I worked hard. I did two assignments, did an exam. Yeah, no, I was really proud because, like I said, not being at school for so long, it was bloody daunting going back into a classroom. That's amazing. With all the kids, like 16, 17, 18-year-olds. Oh, my God, did you look like... Did you look like Elf? Be careful, Chris. Is that when you wish you'd got your four dogs? I meant, did you look like Buddy the Elf in Elf? Just massive on a dolly.
28:03Rosie Ramsey:On a tiny chair, I actually did. No, you should be really proud of yourself. Careful, Chris. You see, I've just snapped at me a couple of times. Yeah, I'm living on the edge. She's been doing this business. I'm getting adrenaline. She's a man who does it out. She's a man who does it out. No, they're all full of testosterone. I'm very easy to get on with. I'm a carman with a full head of hair. I need to stop talking about full heads of hair, don't I? Yeah, people get very triggered by it. I'm very lucky. Oh, do you know something? That's the only thing they've got to fucking worry about, men. Bit of hair on her head Didn't want to see him Jesus Christ Mine though It must be sad When your hair falls I could imagine It being quite triggering I can imagine it's sad Two things I never take the piss out of Two things Hair fever stuff for us Bald blokes Please don't talk to me About hair fever There we go See I will never Have a go at any one Fever than things Because you can just Get hair fever one year Which is just awful Do you know how many Fexifenedine I take a day How many Four Oh god Really bad Non-dosey I assume Well thank god like that nice to be here bless you though that's intense isn't it yeah it is horrible you're right two things I never take the piss out of can happen at any point to anyone well exactly terrifying no it is terrifying I'm just saying that we go through more absolutely not a competition though is it so no it's just factual nah not a competition though is it look at me Sean's done with these disgusting men oh here it is I'm just doing it to wind him out here it is I'm not I love men honestly love women I'm not a man hater if I wake up tomorrow it's her fault I'm not a man hater they get on me nerves but I don't I can't be now I've got two sons well there you go I've had to really change my whole view on a man you know now that I've got two sons I'm like oh god I have to really actually sort of like understand them yeah but you're in a beautiful position where you can raise two brilliant men and release them out into the world who are caring and kind and understanding of the plight of women that is always fucking going on oh god I like no well yeah they've got no choice literally the Robin And Robin asked me, oh my God.
30:02Rosie Ramsey:He didn't say it right, but he asked me if I was penny menopausal. Brilliant. I love it when they get words wrong to you. I went, where have you heard about that? Where'd he seen it? Was it on The Simpsons? He's seen it on something, yeah. It was on something? He called us helicopter, our parents, the other day. Oh no, he's a, honestly, he's gaslighting us. He's got some sass on him, that kid. Yeah, anyway. He wanted to go jet skiing on holiday. Yeah. Kept wanting to go jet skiing. asking us all the time. I went, you don't, first day, jet ski. Like, we just got there. I'm like, you don't get off the plane and get on the jet ski.
30:35That's not how you do a holiday, pal. You pace yourself. Remember what he said? We're sitting around. You were like, it was two o 'clock or whatever, three o 'clock. You were like, should I have a little afternoon drink? I was like, well, have a little afternoon drink. I was like, do you want a G &T? You went, yeah, I'll have a G &T. He lent in. He went, how about we'll go and do a bit of G &S? Jet ski. Prick. We had to just laugh. We were like, you know what? He's nailed that. How about we won't do a bit of GNS? I thought you were going to say to her and I said, listen, you've got to pace yourself with those drinks.
31:03Oh, I would, yeah. Oh, yeah. He loves having a go. Loves having a go when you've got a drink in your hand.
31:08Rosie Ramsey:Can't go on the jet. No, I think you said, Dad, you can't go on the jet ski. That's it, yeah. We'll do it tomorrow then. Right. Babadoo, babadoo, babadoo, babadoo. Plan B is a backup birth control option that's there for you when things don't go according to plan. It specifically works after unprotected sex and before pregnancy occurs by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is available nationwide at all major retailers and through delivery apps like DoorDash. No ID, prescription, or age requirement. It's the number one OBGYN-recommended brand of emergency contraception, and it won't impact your future fertility.
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32:18Yeah, hi. Quick question.
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32:51So, dear Chris and Rosie, please keep me anonymous. Always. A few years ago, my husband and I went to a neighbour's yard sale. We picked up a large tent and a pop-up shade canopy. Both were packed in canvas bags, so we took them home and we decided to put them together to make sure all the pieces were there. Secondhand tents upset me, something rotten. Don't know why you'd do it. We put the tent up back in the yard. Everything was great. Out of space in the back, we started to assemble the shade canopy in the front. We quickly ran into difficulty. It just didn't seem to fit together in the way we thought it should.
33:29In the bag was the web address of the manufacturer. Only when we went to the website for assembly instructions, did we realise what we were actually putting together in our front yard was some kind of sex bondage cage. LAUGHTER A front garden! They put the other one in the back. And they've got the front streets. Number 14, I put the sex dungeon up again. After a quick laugh, we scrambled to get the structure down, back into the bag and into the garage. Luckily, the neighbours who had the yard sale were moving, so we never had to see them again. The bondage apparatus stayed in the bag in our garage until I became too haunted by the possibility that we might die and a loved one would find it while going for our things.
34:18we agreed we were both too mortified to try to sell it so we got rid of it piece by piece in the recycling and trash that's the great escapement the great escapement you know when they're shaking when they're shaking the mud out of the mud yeah yeah yeah
34:36Rosie Ramsey:that is brilliant I'm imagining just like a little it's like a box isn't it can I just say the idea that there is a market out there catering for people who don't have the spare room space to make an actual sex dungeon so you can actually just make a pop-up one is so sad, but so sweet in a way. But where are you putting that if you've bought one of those? What are you doing with that? Popping it up in the posh town? Well, no, the office, you'll just, we'll move your desk to the corner, we'll push the chair over there, we'll put the thing and then we'll pop that up, we'll do the bondage and then we'll take that back down because, you know, you've got to work, you've got to Zoom on Monday morning.
35:09Rosie Ramsey:That's one thing from doing this podcast, we have learned that people have very different lives. Like everybody lives, We're very vanilla. We are hugely vanilla. We've learned some stuff. Yeah. But it's fine. Each to their own. Each to their own, yeah. Yeah, if they're not hurting anyone, but... I just love the happy ending of that story. They moved, so they never had to say them again, and then they got rid of it. It's just perfect. But front lawn. Front lawn. The only sort of saving grace is if they didn't realise what it was, but then again, it might be one of the things where while you're busy doing it, you didn't realise, but from a distance, it might be...
35:43You know, sometimes you've got to step back to see what something is. I don't know if I would even know. Do you know what I mean? I don't know if I would realise. Well, it wasn't until I went on the website, was it? But what's the difference between kind of a cage? Well, I suppose it's a cage, not a tent. It's a cage, isn't it? But I don't know. Or, you know, it could be a large dog tent. Or it could be... I wouldn't really know. I like the idea that the backside of it that they weren't looking at had some explicit either words or picture on it. And they never went round that end.
36:07Rosie Ramsey:I'd have to finish putting it together and see what it looked like. I'd have to have a shot on it. I feel like you'd have to, wouldn't you? Yeah, you'd have to pop it up. second hand so to speak pop up very good great you'd have to pop it up great work absolutely great work unbelievable we've done now that's it I could sit and talk this is what I was like do you remember when I came back from Swanby yeah we didn't stop talking yeah and I was like I could have just sat and talked if we were at school we would have got told off yeah you're the same person it's terrifying we'd be nattering we'd be like oh what are we doing now we didn't stop talking there it is but thank you so much thank you for having me it's been lovely to see you both oh and you you're looking so well thanks Hope you have a lovely summer.
36:44Rosie Ramsey:You too. You too. Enjoy the summer. Yeah. Are you going anywhere nice? Yeah, Montenegro. What? Oh, I know. It's wild. I don't go anywhere. Where is Montenegro? Where's Montenegro? My niece, Elliot, said, Natalie, just book something different. You drive me mad. I go to Cornwall every year. We love Cornwall. Well, beautiful. Beautiful. I love it. She said, it's meant to be really nice. Just book it. And I did. Just went on Airbnbs, did it? I was just talking. This is so weird. because I was just talking this morning about we need to get a bit more adventurous with holidays. Have a look at Montenegro.
37:15Okay, I will. It looks ever so nice. Do you know where... Yeah, it's very close to Croatia. It used to be, it's all of that area. Right, okay, okay. Well, Cup starts next week. I like the World Cup. Me too, I love it. I don't sport football, but I like the World Cup. I've got all the sticker books. Oh, yay! Wow! Yeah, I've got all the stickers. I know, sad. No, it's sad.
37:32Rosie Ramsey:Got to have hobbies. Got to have hobbies. Can I just say as well, I've read in your notes, it's obviously it's one of these conversations where we didn't have any we didn't have to read any of your notes just like we didn't have to use any notes because we've had a lovely chat but you did it said it said in your notes that you consider yourself an old soul and I would 100 % agree with that now because no one has ever come off this podcast at the end and gone hope you have a lovely summer I hope I'm not an old person thanks for having us you both look well hope you had a lovely summer I know I'm not an old person I feel like you're about to offer us a fucking word that's original I know it's been a pleasure thank you Thank you.
38:05Rosie Ramsey:Thank you. It is so much fun.
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From the publisher
On this week's podcast Chris and Rosie Ramsey are joined by actress, podcaster and all round brilliant Natalie Cassidy!
The three discuss favourite swear words, life after Eastenders and what it's like having a teenage daughter. Natalie reads a great Please Keep Me Anonymous story and tells Chris and Rosie why she loved performing at The Mighty Hoopla!
Natalie also talks about what inspired her to make the documentary series, Natalie Cassidy: Caring Together whereby she sets out to get a Health and Social Care qualification. And if she wasn't busy enough she also has a podcast called Life With Nat. On the pod Natalie talks to various members of her family about the realties of every day life!
You can find Natalie Cassidy: Caring Together on BBC Iplayer or click here: Natalie Cassidy: Caring Together
Life with Nat is available wherever you get your podcasts!
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