The Louisiana Purchase

5 Jan 2026 · 54 min · 19 chapters

Ask about this episode

Ask anything about it. ChatGPT or Claude reads this page and answers with the times it was said.

Connect VO and ask about every podcast you hear, including the moments you saved. Add to ChatGPT · Add to Claude

In short

The Louisiana Purchase (1803) and how it reshaped U.S. territory, governance, race law, and relations with Indigenous peoples—starting with a New Orleans brawl over English vs French dances and ending with U.S. control becoming “absolute” only in the 1870s.

Guest backgrounds

Peter Castor, professor of history at Washington University in St. Louis, author on the Louisiana Purchase. (No other named guests.)

Key claims

The purchase was not a single event but a decades-long process that normalized U.S. territorial expansion; European rivalries and Indigenous sovereignty persisted long after 1803; U.S. rule imposed racial/legal hierarchy, including the 1806 “Black Code” in the Territory of Orleans; U.S. control over the claimed land was largely theoretical until the 1870s.

Notable examples

Jefferson’s 1803 negotiation with Napoleon; the “retrocession” (Spain returning Louisiana to France); the Lewis and Clark expedition (including Shoshone translator Saka Jowia); Osage treaty negotiations (1808); Saint-Domingue’s revolt and Leclerc’s death; New Orleans statehood as Louisiana in 1812; boundary disputes with Spain settled by a treaty ratified in 1821.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

Tap a time to open that second in VO

The Evening of January 22, 1804

0:23 to 5:51

Experience the cultural tension in New Orleans during a winter ball.

“But in the city of New Orleans on the southern coast of the United States, the weather is still mild.”

Historical Context of the Louisiana Territory

5:51 to 11:00

Discover the origins and significance of the Louisiana Territory.

“But the vast swathe of land that will become known as the Louisiana Territory remains untouched by them until 1682, when a Frenchman named René Robert Cavalier reaches the mouth of the Mississippi River.”

Early United States and Access to New Orleans

12:29 to 14:01

Understand the importance of New Orleans for early American trade.

“Coverage options are selected by the customer.”

Napoleon's Secret Treaty and the Retrocession

14:01 to 15:09

Learn about the secret treaty between France and Spain that ceded Louisiana back to France, its implications, and governance issues.

“because just a few years later, Napoleon is developing his plans to rebuild a French empire in the region.”

Thomas Jefferson: A Complex Legacy

15:09 to 17:51

Explore Thomas Jefferson's beliefs about equality, land ownership, and his views on American expansion.

“becomes the third president of the United States in March 1801.”

Incorporating the Northwest Territory

17:51 to 20:03

Understand the challenges Jefferson faced in incorporating the Northwest Territory and the views on American territorial expansion.

“Jefferson and his Secretary of State, James Madison, have their hands full, attempting to incorporate the land west of the Appalachian Mountains and north of the Ohio River into the Union.”

The Mississippi Crisis Unfolds

20:03 to 22:54

Examine the American reactions to the secret agreement between France and Spain and the growing fears of French imperial ambitions.

“In 1802, American fears solidify when Spain rescinds their rights to navigate the Mississippi River and deposit goods in New Orleans.”

Leclerc's Struggles and American Diplomatic Moves

22:54 to 26:54

Learn about the impact of General Leclerc's health crisis on French ambitions in the Americas and America's diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis.

“As he reaches the final bed, another three men are carried in by their comrades.”

The Offer to Buy New Orleans

26:54 to 28:02

Discover the U.S. government's plan to purchase New Orleans and the strategic changes affecting French control over Louisiana.

“They will offer to buy the city of New Orleans for$2.5 million.”

Negotiation Begins in Paris

28:02 to 29:20

Learn how Monroe and Livingston negotiate the Louisiana Purchase in Paris.

“but latitude to someone who you know you're not able to control.”
Show all 19 chapters

The Purchase Announcement

29:20 to 30:38

Discover the details of the agreement and its historical significance.

“I think Napoleon is ready to negotiate and you're going to like what he has to say.”

Governance of the New Territory

30:38 to 31:44

Understand how the Louisiana territory was governed post-purchase.

“What they end up doing is they use a template that's worked, the territorial system.”

Cultural Dynamics in Louisiana

31:44 to 33:08

Explore the cultural and demographic realities of the newly acquired land.

“Almost immediately, the territory purchased from the French is cleaved in two.”

The Lewis and Clark Expedition Begins

33:08 to 34:34

Follow the journey of Lewis and Clark as they explore the new territory.

“Jefferson's Hammer, because he had had a really tight rule both over white settlers and Native Americans.”

Challenges and Encounters on the Trail

34:34 to 39:41

Learn about the challenges faced by Lewis and Clark and their interactions with indigenous peoples.

“High summer in the foothills of the Beaverhead Mountains, on the border between modern-day Idaho and Montana.”

Race and Governance in the New Land

39:41 to 42:03

Examine the complexities of race and governance in the Louisiana territory.

“Another purpose of the expedition was to inform indigenous Americans of Louisiana's new owners.”

Race and Identity in the Louisiana Purchase

42:03 to 45:18

Explore how race and social norms influenced the Americanization of the Louisiana territory.

“Aside from their boundary disputes, other uncertainties remain, especially in the territory of Orleans.”

Statehood and Governance of Louisiana

46:04 to 49:59

Understand the journey of Louisiana from territory to statehood and its implications.

“In the winter of 1811, 43 men from throughout the territory of Orleans come together to write a state constitution.”

The Importance of the Louisiana Purchase

49:59 to 51:00

Discover why the Louisiana Purchase was pivotal in shaping America's territorial and political landscape.

“For better or worse, it made the United States into the nation it is today.”
Hear the part that matters, and keep it.Open this episode in VO. Double tap your headphones to save a moment as you listen.
Get VO free

Transcript

Automatic transcript. May contain errors.

0:00This episode is brought to you by Welch's fruit snacks. Big news for your kids lunchbox. Welch's fruit snacks are now made without any artificial dyes. A snack parents can feel good about and the same delicious taste kids can't get enough of. All made with no artificial dyes. Try Welch's Fruit Snacks today.

0:23It is the 22nd of January, 1804. A dark evening in the middle of winter. But in the city of New Orleans on the southern coast of the United States, the weather is still mild. A small carriage drawn by a pair of shabby horses pulls up outside the city's public ballroom. A young man in a dark evening coat and white cravat jumps out and drops a few coins into the driver's outstretched hand.

0:54George Morgan is one of a growing number of Anglo-Americans who have moved into the territory of Louisiana, which has only just been handed over by the French. But the inhabitants of New Orleans are still largely of French descent, and their culture and customs define the city. George hurries up the short flight of steps to the red brick building and pushes open the heavy door.

1:22The large, high-ceilinged ballroom is already packed. In the middle, 12 couples are twirling their way through a traditional English dance, ably accompanied by the musicians. George watches, mesmerized, at the way the ladies' gowns reflect the lamplight as they spin and swap partners. Many of the men are American military officers, their coats gleaming with braid and brass buttons. The ball, George finds, is a cosmopolitan affair. Moving through the room, he hears conversations in English from the Americans, French from the Louisianians, a smattering of Spanish. But the groups are not mixing. As he passes a knot of French military officers standing in a corner muttering darkly, he realizes that something of a bad atmosphere is brewing.

2:18The music comes to an end with a flourish from the violinist, and the crowd applauds. Sets of four begin to form for another English dance, and George steps forward, hoping to join in. But alongside the quartets forming, pairs are also standing as if for a French waltz. A murmur of confusion runs through the crowd. Things quickly escalate. Several of the American soldiers begin haranguing the musicians, demanding they play another English country reel. while the French shout for a waltz. The crowd only falls silent when the governor, 28-year-old William Claiborne, climbs onto a bench and shouts for order.

3:07Since they have just had an English dance, he says, it is time now for a waltz. His tone brooks no disagreement. The French dancers look pleased and George reluctantly steps back from the dance floor as the first strains of the music start up. But the dance has barely begun when an American advances on the lead violinist demanding a halt to this French music. To the shock of those assembled, he then proceeds to beat the musician with his cane. Soon, the violin is in splinters, and when the cane itself breaks, the slim sword inside it is revealed. Immediately, more weapons are drawn, with American soldiers now facing off against the group of French military officers.

3:58As Claiborne throws himself between the two sides, George presses himself against the wall to avoid being pulled into the melee as the ball descends into a brawl.

4:11Though the city is newly American in name, it is clear that national divisions and resentments inherited from Europe still reign in New Orleans.

4:30In 1803, President Thomas Jefferson negotiated the purchase of 820 ,000 square miles of land from Napoleon. Known as the Louisiana Territory, it included the modern states of Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, and Colorado, among many others. At the stroke of a pen, the nation almost doubled in size. But the purchase of Louisiana was only the beginning. Immediately, the American government was forced to reckon with a series of difficult questions, not least about how to incorporate this enormous multi-ethnic territory into the United States, and what to do about the indigenous population who had inhabited the territory for millennia.

5:19But why did Napoleon agree to sell Louisiana in the first place? How did this territory and its inhabitants become part of the fledgling United States? And what impact do these monumental events have on the course of American history? I'm John Hopkins from the Noiser Podcast Network. This is a short history of the Louisiana Purchase.

5:50From the late 15th century, European explorers have been making claims on North America. But the vast swathe of land that will become known as the Louisiana Territory remains untouched by them until 1682, when a Frenchman named René Robert Cavalier reaches the mouth of the Mississippi River. He claims the waterway and the land around it in the name of King Louis XIV, hence the name Louisiana. Over time, the name comes to refer to a vast region stretching roughly from the Mississippi River westward toward the unexplored plains and mountains and from the Great Lakes in the north down to the Gulf of Mexico.

6:35Peter Castor is professor of history at Washington University in St. Louis and author of a number of books on the Louisiana Purchase. In 1699, when the French government announced the creation of this colony called Louisiana, Spain claimed all of what is now Mexico, but as part of that claimed a lot of land that is now the southwestern and western United States, reaching up into states like Colorado, California, Oregon. So that was their claim. The French claimed this big colony of Louisiana. Most importantly to them, they claimed all of what is now Canada. The British, they consolidate their control really in the eastern third of North America.

7:21and that's now really the eastern part of the United States into the Midwest.

7:30In 1718, the city of New Orleans is founded near the mouth of the river and the Gulf Coast in an area long used by indigenous peoples as a market for goods. Louisiana itself is not a profitable territory, but the city is crucial as a trading post for France. Animal pelts and other precious commodities from French-held Canada are brought down the Mississippi and shipped out of New Orleans for sale in Europe and beyond. But though now nominally French, much of the land outside of the towns and settlements is still home to a variety of indigenous peoples. And the crucial thing to understand those societies is they're not organized, in many cases by the large tribal terms that people often use today.

8:19They tended to be organized around groups of villages that were organized either as bands or larger societies. But if you were traveling through there constantly along the way, if you were going through the Northern area, you might run into the Oglala Lakota, a group that the Europeans called the Teton Sioux, and it was clear that they were in charge. If you headed to the South and the West, you'd run into one of the Comanche bands, and it was clear that they were governing the land there. So it's this place that had a large population with very elaborate politics, complex diplomacy, a really far-reaching trade.

9:00The newer occupants of the continent from France, Spain, and England do not always coexist peacefully in North America, either with their indigenous neighbors or each other. European politics frequently disrupt diplomacy in the Americas. In 1754, conflict breaks out between Britain and France, soon spreading worldwide as the Seven Years' War, which reshapes the political map of North America. During the conflict, the British launch a major campaign into French Canada and are victorious. And in the peace negotiations, which conclude in 1763, eight years after the war erupts, the French agree to cede their colony of Canada.

9:47That's the first thing that gets settled. Well, then the French conclude, if we don't have Canada, which was the moneymaker, we definitely don't need Louisiana, which they then cede to the Spanish.

10:01Much of North and Central America is split between British and Spanish control. although large areas of the continent are still not colonized by Europeans. New France, the territory previously claimed by the French in North America, ceases to exist. Aside from the city of New Orleans itself, the land Spain receives from France is still primarily inhabited and controlled by indigenous Americans. They trade food, medicines and building practices with the colonists, and receive in return weapons, alcohol, textiles and glass beads. Alongside the European settlers, most of whom are French, even after the Spanish takeover, an ever-growing number of enslaved Africans are brought into the territory to labor on plantations.

10:53Such is the situation in Louisiana when 13 British colonies on the east coast of North America declare independence in July 1776. In the following years, the American colonists fight for their freedom. And though the French no longer have a territorial stake on the mainland, their historic and ongoing rivalry with England convinces them to side with the Americans. Eventually, after a catastrophic defeat at the siege of Yorktown, the British surrender. The Treaty of Paris, formally ending the conflict, is signed in 1783.

11:47Dream Team. And new habitats. Zootopia has a secret reptile population. You can watch the record-breaking phenomenon at home. Zootopia 2, now available on Disney Plus Rated PG. And right now you can get Disney Plus and Hulu for just$4.99 a month for three months with a special limited time offer ends March 24th. After three months, plan auto renews at$12.99 a month. Terms apply. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast? Smart move. Being financially savvy? Smart move. Another smart move? Having State Farm help you create a competitive price when you choose to bundle home and auto.

12:23Bundling. Just another way to save with a personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. At its birth, the United States comprises territory south of Canada and east of the Mississippi River. The new nation is hemmed in by European powers, Britain to the north and Spain to the southwest. Crucially, in an era when water is often the fastest means of transportation, the Mississippi River, the Florida Peninsula, and much of the Gulf Coast belong to Spain.

13:05Whenever possible, people would travel through the river systems. A very common route at that time is that people would, if they were going again from the eastern seaboard, they would go on horseback or in a carriage to a place like Pittsburgh, where they would then get on the Ohio River and take that either to a point further west or to the Mississippi River and then down to New Orleans. But we're still talking about a travel time of several weeks. One key early goal for the nascent United States is ensuring access to the river and the port of New Orleans. After negotiations in 1795, the Spanish allow the Americans to sail down the Mississippi and deposit their goods in New Orleans for trade.

13:50But though the Spanish relinquish their claim on some of the land that now forms the states of Alabama and Mississippi, they hold on to the Louisiana Territory and the Gulf Coast. But not for long. because just a few years later, Napoleon is developing his plans to rebuild a French empire in the region. And to do that, he needs something from the Spanish. The French and the Spanish sign a secret treaty through which Spain cedes Louisiana to France, back to France. So they're returning it. That's why it's often called the retrocession. The French want to acquire it because they think Louisiana can be a source of raw materials for their Caribbean colonies.

14:35That's where the money is. And they signed this secret agreement that also has another really weird feature. France will own Louisiana, but the Spanish officials will continue to govern it. It's kind of like France is this absentee landlord.

14:53At this point, it's unclear what this deal between European nations will mean for the United States on the other side of the Mississippi River. The president who has to grapple with the retrocession and its consequences is Thomas Jefferson. One of the founding fathers and an author of the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson becomes the third president of the United States in March 1801. Though he's a passionate advocate for democracy and individual rights, he is nonetheless a slave owner, with around 100 enslaved individuals working on his Virginia plantation at any one time. Whenever I talk about Thomas Jefferson, I start by saying people invest a lot of emotion into this guy.

15:41And it can actually make it difficult to make sense of him because Americans, as well as people around the world, have long sought to understand the United States through Jefferson. They've seen him as a symbol, whether for good or for ill. The fundamental principle that guides him throughout his adult life is the notion of equality. Now, of course, we know that he had that very tightly defined for him. For him, equality is primarily for Euro-Americans. Jefferson also has mixed views on the idea of American territorial expansion. For the most part, he is uninterested in government-led efforts to acquire new land.

16:28When Thomas Jefferson came into office, he had no plan to expand the boundaries of the United States, and his reasons were simple. And they were reasons that he shared with many of his fellow Americans, especially the American political class, regardless of which political party they were from, which was they had enough on their plate to keep them busy. Their conclusion was that the United States had large territorial claims, made it larger than most of the countries they compared themselves to, and that that was an enormously difficult challenge for the United States. However, Jefferson does support the spread of white settlers into areas nominally ruled by the U.S.

17:12government, but that are largely inhabited by indigenous groups. The area of expansion that mattered to him most was the expansive settlement of white settlers, men and women, families, fanning out throughout the United States. The census of 1800 had shown that the number of people living west of the Appalachian Mountains was really growing. And Jefferson was thrilled by this. Jefferson believed in equality. And he believed that the foundation of that was land ownership. If you could own your own land, you were equal to anybody else. From the moment of his inauguration, Jefferson and his Secretary of State, James Madison, have their hands full, attempting to incorporate the land west of the Appalachian Mountains and north of the Ohio River into the Union.

18:04This is known as the Northwest Territory. Having escaped the clutches of the British Empire, they do not wish the United States itself to become an imperial power with its own colonies. So a plan is drawn up whereby newly acquired territories can be governed until they have a large enough population of voting-age white men. Only at this point can they become full and equal states The Northwest Territory is set on this path And the first state to emerge from it, Ohio Will achieve statehood in 1803

18:43Preoccupied as they are with westward movement of settlers And the incorporation of the Northwest Territory When the Americans find out about the secret agreement between France and Spain They are furious not to mention worried. They're afraid that it will negate all of the treaties that the U.S. have and the agreements the U.S. has with Spain. They think it might be a sign that the French want to become this reborn power in North America. The Americans don't know what to do. All they know is that they're angry. Their unease increases when the leader of the French Republic, Napoleon Bonaparte, sends a huge force to the Caribbean in 1801.

19:27The army is commanded by his brother-in-law, Charles Victor Emmanuel Leclerc. For a decade now, the French slave colony of Saint-Domingue has been in revolt. But its sugar plantations are immensely profitable, and Leclerc's orders are to win it back no matter the cost. The expedition shows how serious Napoleon is about reinstating France's empire in the New World. The Louisiana Territory, still governed by Spain but due to be returned to France in 1803, is a key part of that vision. In 1802, American fears solidify when Spain rescinds their rights to navigate the Mississippi River and deposit goods in New Orleans.

20:12Given Napoleon's imperial ambitions, there seems little hope that the situation will change once France regains control of the Louisiana Territory. American policymakers discuss a variety of solutions to what they are soon calling the Mississippi Crisis. As early as 1801, they're starting to say, what we really need to do is acquire New Orleans and the Gulf Coast once and for all. Alexander Hamilton has a simple solution. He says, the Jefferson administration needs to send the army, they need to invade, they need to seize it. It's a completely unrealistic plan. It's partly because Hamilton himself is a militarist.

20:53It's also, he's kind of challenging the Jeffersonians to do something about this. While American politicians debate how best to resolve the crisis, events in the Caribbean are working in their favor. By the final months of 1802, Leclerc's mission to retake Saint-Domingue, the pearl in the French imperial crown, is faltering.

21:21It is the beginning of November 1802. At the military hospital at Le Cap in the French colony of Saint-Domingue, chaos reigns. In a fetid, crowded ward, a doctor named Pear shakes his head as he fails to find a pulse at his patient's wrist He nods to two attendants standing nearby, who cover the dead man's body with a sheet and remove it to make way for the next patient And there is always a next patient

21:55Yesterday, 200 soldiers were admitted to the hospital Père has long, bitter experience of treating men on battlefields, but on Saint-Domingue they are facing a different kind of enemy. He continues on his rounds. The beds are packed tightly together, the air thick with the smell of sweat and diseased bodies. Every man has the same symptoms. An aching head, a dangerously high fever, pain in their joints. Some clutch their stomachs in agony. Others have a yellow tinge to their skin and the whites of their eyes. There is little pair can do. Attendants bathe the foreheads of the stricken men with cool water and give them herbal concoctions to try and bring their temperatures down.

22:43Some are even subjected to bloodletting, but they are losing more and more lives every day to this unstoppable fever.

22:54As he reaches the final bed, another three men are carried in by their comrades. Pear runs his hands through his hair, permanently soaked with sweat, and scans the room for space to put the new arrivals. Just then, a junior officer rushes over, who takes him aside and breathlessly tells him he's needed at General Leclerc's residence. There's not a moment to lose. After pausing at the door to jam his bicorn hat on his head, he follows the officer out into the velvet night. Once outside, he takes a deep breath, relieved to be free of the cloying smell of the hospital. Then he hurries down the street after the officer.

23:40Soon they are at the General's palace. Once admitted, they are hustled quickly up the stairs to Leclerc's private apartments. The general lies in a grand four-poster bed, as he has done for days. Stained sheets lie tangled round his feet. His fine white nightshirt is soaked with sweat, and even in the small pool of light cast by the bedside candle, Pear can see his skin is yellower than it was this morning. His breathing has turned heavy and rasping. Kneeling by the bedside is his wife, Pauline, and their young son. The boy is weeping piteously, but Pauline's eyes are dry as she clutches onto her husband's right hand.

24:23The rings under her eyes show she hasn't slept in days. Père crosses to the bed and takes Leclerc's other wrist in his. His pulse is already weakening. The doctor stands by his general's bed until his knees begin to ache. Until, finally, he nods at Pauline. Leclerc is dead. At last, his wife lays her head down on the bed and sobs. I'm sorry.

25:24at Venmo.com slash college card. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank N.A. Select schools available. Venmo stash terms and exclusions apply at Venmo.me slash stash terms. Max$100 cash back per month. It's crunch time at work and you need to bring wings to your workday. Visit RedBull.com slash getting it done and answer a couple questions about your work style to get a Spotify customized playlist tuned to your productivity. Plus, score a can of Red Bull on us while you go from to do to done. And remember, Red Bull gives you wings. Supplies are limited. Terms apply. Visit the website for more information.

Read the full transcript

26:01Though a personal tragedy for his wife and young son, Leclerc's death provides relief to the people of Saint-Domingue. Shortly before he fell ill, he suggested to Napoleon that the virtual annihilation of the black adults on the island was necessary to bring the territory back under French control. With his passing and the deaths of tens of thousands of his soldiers from Yellow Fever, his genocidal orders are never carried out. Within two years, Saint-Domingue will be an independent country, bearing its new name of Haiti.

26:39The failure of his mission is good news for the United States too, though they are not immediately aware of it. In the spring of 1803, President Jefferson and Secretary of State Madison at last come up with a solution to the Mississippi crisis. They will offer to buy the city of New Orleans for$2.5 million. A man named James Monroe, who will later be elected president himself, is quickly dispatched to Paris to join the American minister already in the city, Robert Livingston. Monroe crosses the Atlantic. He meets up with Livingston, and these are two deeply experienced diplomats. They were founding fathers.

27:24They also had enormous egos. Monroe thinks he's the young generation. He fought in the revolution. He's a protege of Jefferson's. Livingston is one of the wealthiest men in New York. Side story, Robert R. Livingston. The R stands for Robert. His secretary is his nephew or cousin. Robert L. Livingston. The L stands for Livingston. So Robert Robert Livingston and Robert Livingston Livingston, they're both writing to Washington. It's always difficult to tell who's who. Back to the story. Madison writes up these very, very detailed instructions. They're a terrific example of how you offer guidance but latitude to someone who you know you're not able to control.

28:08Because once Monroe boards the ship to France, he's out of their control. Madison also wrote up a draft treaty. He says, your job is to negotiate a sale of New Orleans and the Floridas. That's it.

28:26While Monroe is crossing the Atlantic, events overtake him. With the decimation of their army on Saint-Domingue, it is becoming apparent that the French cannot retake the colony. War between Britain and France in Europe seems imminent, and the territory of Louisiana is large, unprofitable, and a prime target for British attacks from Canada, should war be declared between the two countries. But though Napoleon now recognizes Louisiana as a strategic liability, he would much rather get something for it than end up losing it to the British for nothing. So Monroe and Livingston, they're both in Paris, they go out to dinner because they're committed to working together.

29:09And while they're eating, the French minister of finance, Francois Barbet-Marbois, comes by and he comes in to talk with them. And he says, I have news for you. I think Napoleon is ready to negotiate and you're going to like what he has to say. And it's a very tantalizing moment. Why? Why this change? So Monroe and Livingston go to meet with Bonaparte and Talleyrand. His foreign secretary is there. He's the kind of master negotiator in Europe. And they're blown away by what they hear, which is the French say, we're ready to deal and we will sell you everything in Louisiana, everything in Louisiana, all or nothing.

29:56Over the coming weeks, the American and French negotiators hammer out a treaty. America pledges to buy all the land that the French had ceded to the Spanish, and the Spanish had then given back. Beyond that, the boundaries of the territory are not clearly delineated. The price is$15 million, around$350 million in today's money. The news reaches Jefferson and Madison on the 3rd of July, 1803. The next day, on the 27th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the President appears on the White House steps to announce the purchase With the addition of the 820 ,000 square mile territory of Louisiana, the United States of America has just doubled in size But the agreement is only the beginning On the 20th of October, the Senate ratifies the Purchase Treaty Shortly thereafter, the financing is approved, and Congress passes legislation enabling Jefferson to take possession of and govern the territory.

31:05What they end up doing is they use a template that's worked, the territorial system. This process through which you acquire land, you subdivide it, you constitute it as a territory, and eventually it becomes a state. What it meant to be a federal territory was that you were quite literally governed federally. The person in charge of every federal territory was a governor, but the governor was not elected. The governor was selected by the president.

31:34After Jefferson appoints a young man named William Claiborne as governor, the transfer goes off without a hitch, and the territory formally passes from Spain to France. Then, on the 20th of December, 1803, the French governor hands it over to Claiborne. Almost immediately, the territory purchased from the French is cleaved in two. The small territory of Orleans, governed by Claiborne, encompasses roughly the modern state of Louisiana and is centered on the city of New Orleans itself. Many of its inhabitants are European and American, with a sizable population of enslaved African-Americans and free people of color.

32:15The much larger territory of Louisiana covers everything else. It is over three times the size of France and far more sparsely populated than New Orleans, at least by white settlers. But it is home to numerous indigenous groups. Living far from areas of white settlement, their opinions on the transfer of control have not been sought. For now, at least, it makes little immediate difference. It is only in the years to come that the U.S. will exert ever more control over the land and their lives.

32:52The governance of the Territory of Louisiana is given over to William Henry Harrison. Harrison had been the governor of the Indiana Territory, right next door. And he's an emerging star among these appointed officials. There's a great book about him called Mr. Jefferson's Hammer, because he had had a really tight rule both over white settlers and Native Americans. Harrison later got elected president in 1840, gave the longest inaugural address in U.S. history, caught pneumonia and died 30 days later. People laugh at that. In 1803, he's 33 years old, and he's a very effective governing official.

33:33Even after these systems of governance have been erected, the simple but crucial question that remains unanswered concerns the exact boundaries of the land the Americans have purchased. In the winter, Jefferson and Madison start writing to each other saying, what are the boundaries of Louisiana? And the other one writes back, I thought you knew the boundaries of Louisiana. So they really don't know what they've bought. Americans start saying, we think it includes the Floridas, the Gulf Coast and the Florida Peninsula. The Spanish immediately say, no dice. We know it's not that. We're not going to cede that land.

34:08Jefferson now orders teams to be assembled, tasked with mapping the new territory, gaining information on geography and resources, and gathering intelligence on its indigenous inhabitants. The first and most famous of these is led by Captain Meriwether Lewis and 2nd Lieutenant William Clark. The so-called Corps of Discovery, made up of around 40 men, leaves Illinois in May 1804 and starts the arduous journey up the Missouri River and into the unknown.

34:44It is the 17th of August 1805. High summer in the foothills of the Beaverhead Mountains, on the border between modern-day Idaho and Montana. The landscape is green, rustling grasses as far as the eye can see, interrupted by darker-hued firs and pines. High overhead, a bald eagle's cry rings out. Meriwether Lewis raises a hand to shade his eyes. From his vantage point astride a stocky brown horse, He scans the wild, empty landscape. Alongside a few other men, he split from the main expedition force a week ago to scout ahead, but they are now running low on supplies. Having retraced their steps, they should have found their companions by now, including co-leader William Clark.

35:38But still, there is no sign of them. Lewis's stomach cramps, reminding him that he has not eaten enough in several days. If they don't reunite with the main expedition soon, they could be in serious trouble.

35:55Turning to the man next to him, Lewis points towards a river in the distance, miming that they should follow its course. The man is a local chief, dressed in a pale deerskin shirt and leggings. He and some of his people have been traveling with Lewis for several days now. The language barrier is an issue, but gesturing has got them this far. Nodding at Lewis's suggestion, the chief tosses his long black hair over his shoulder before signaling to his own men to continue towards the river. Now, Lewis hears a shout in the distance. His heart racing, his hand goes to the knife on his belt. Is it their companions or one of the hostile tribes they've been warned about?

36:45Raids are not uncommon out on the plains. Readying himself, the chief raises his spear and tells his men to do the same as the shouts grow nearer. But as Lewis squints against the sunlight, he breathes a sigh of relief when he identifies the leader of the group in the distance as none other than William Clark.

37:08But before they arrive, he sees someone else, much closer. It's their translator, Saka Jowia, hurrying to meet them on foot, her infant son strapped securely to her back, as always. When she reaches them, however, she entirely ignores Lewis. Instead, she rushes straight over to the chief, greeting him warmly, while he, in turn, is shocked but delighted to see her. He slides from his horse and soon they are chatting animatedly in a language Lewis does not understand. Meanwhile Clark and the rest of the expedition have caught up. Lewis claps his friend on the back, relieved to see him again. Finally their translator finishes her conversation and turns to Lewis and Clark.

38:00She explains that the people are Shoshone like her. The chief is her brother, although she has not seen him since she was captured by a rival tribe years ago and taken hundreds of miles away. Clark immediately seizes on the opportunity and asks her to negotiate on their behalf for horses, without which their expedition will grind to a halt right here. Buoyed by the reunion, the chief is more than happy to trade, and the Americans invite him and his men to enjoy a hot meal with them as the details of the deal are finalized. Though just hours ago it seemed doomed to failure, their epic journey across America's new territory can now continue.

39:01Lewis and Clark's expedition helps to map the new territory for the American government. A vital role is played by Saka Jouir, the young Shoshone woman who'd been sold into marriage with Toussaint Charbonnet, a French-Canadian fur trader employed as an interpreter. Aged only 16 and carrying her newborn son, she guides the expedition along treacherous rivers and across mountainous terrain, finding edible plants and contributing to Lewis and Clark's field notes with her knowledge of the local flora and fauna, when she proves invaluable as a translator and negotiator with the various indigenous peoples they meet along the route.

39:44Another purpose of the expedition was to inform indigenous Americans of Louisiana's new owners. And whenever they meet them, they say, this land is now owned by the United States. And in their journals, they say, we met with the Indian leaders and they acknowledged the American claim. And my guess is that these Native leaders say, yeah, you're the latest. The French claim the land, the Spanish claim the land, it's our land. But you will be the party we trade and negotiate with now. But to the native peoples who are much closer to U.S. officials, it's more heated. To the Osage, who control most of what is now Missouri, they immediately begin elaborate negotiations with the United States.

40:29And they say, we are happy to trade with you. We see real opportunities in this. The United States starts trying to make their claims to Osage land more concrete. They use a variety of means. In 1808, the U.S. signs a major treaty with the Osage through which they cede a large portion of their land. And the principal negotiators of that are Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, who by then are in St. Louis. Meriwether Lewis is the territorial governor. William Clark is the principal Indian agent. Still, these negotiations and American claims to the land take decades to become a reality. The United States did not truly govern the land it owned through the Louisiana Purchase until the 1870s.

41:17Because Native Americans remained the governing authority until then. The U.S. manages to extinguish that authority over the course of decades. But it's only what's often now called the Indian Wars of the 1870s that concludes this conflict. Back in the early days after the purchase, though, further expeditions are sent under different commanders. But these exacerbate tensions with Spain, whose lands lie to the south and west. As well as concerns about explorers straying into their territory, the Spanish suspect that the United States is trying to forge alliances with indigenous groups against them.

41:58Various negotiations now begin to better define where American land ends and Spanish possessions begin.

42:09Aside from their boundary disputes, other uncertainties remain, especially in the territory of Orleans. How can a largely French-speaking white population be made American? What role will slavery play? And what is the position of free black people in the territory? Race mattered in the spaces included in the Louisiana Purchase because race is central to American history, by which I mean it's so often defined the experiences that people in the United States have had. And I really want to emphasize that point, because in the U.S., people argue about this a lot. There are people who say, oh, you're just trying to make race part of this as a way to criticize the United States.

42:49Others say, you're avoiding race as a way to ignore things. I'm talking about this very differently. What I want to emphasize is that race really did affect how people had their American experience. Rather than simply being a land deal, the Louisiana Purchase is crucial in establishing American social and legal norms over its possession and the people who populate them. In 1806, the Territory of Orleans passes a new slave law referred to as the Black Code. The French and Spanish system, whereby mixed-race people were a distinct group with certain privileges, is abolished, and free people of color are designated as legally inferior to whites.

43:34The situation for enslaved people worsens too. What they quickly learn as the United States begins to establish forms of its own common law practices onto an older set of legal practices is that various mechanisms through which the enslaved could pursue their freedom suddenly start getting closed off. They can't sue their masters in court. It becomes much more difficult for them to use legal mechanisms to become free.

44:08Given their legal supremacy, it is perhaps unsurprising that the white francophone population is content to be absorbed into the United States. Recognizing the economic and political opportunities denied to them as a French colony, they quickly begin agitating for their territory to be made a state, and themselves full American citizens. Not all US politicians are convinced, and continue to view these Louisianans as distinctly foreign. And so the men of New Orleans work to prove themselves. They vote, run for office, serve in the militia, and do everything they can to prove their loyalty to the United States.

44:49It works. Soon they are on a path to statehood. Within a few years, the territory of Orleans has an elected territorial government.

45:04It's not just something you made. It's the privilege that you get to work with your hands. It's building something that serves a purpose. Proof that you have the grit to keep going. At Timberland, we understand you take your craft seriously. And we do too. Which is why our products are built to the highest quality. We put in the work so you can perfect yours. With purpose in every detail and crafted with intention. Timberland. Built on craft. Visit Timberland.com to shop.

46:04In the winter of 1811, 43 men from throughout the territory of Orleans come together to write a state constitution. But there is still some unease in Washington at the prospect of admitting this new state into the Union. There was an argument in Washington, D.C. that was very similar to the argument that occurred in 1803 and 1804, which was, could the people of Louisiana govern themselves? And this turned on their ethnic background in the same way that race matters, ethnicity matters. They were people saying, what does it mean to have a population where so many people do not speak the majority language, which is English?

46:44What does it mean that they've got this different background? And the crucial thing from my perspective is, first of all, at the end of the day, people will say, what would it mean if we deny them statehood? Then we're an empire. The argument for democracy and citizenship wins. Less than a decade after the purchase, the territory of Orleans is welcomed into the Union in 1812 as the state of Louisiana. To avoid confusion, the vast Louisiana Territory is renamed the Missouri Territory. Over the next several decades, its exact boundaries are worked out between the USA in Spain. They are finally confirmed in a treaty ratified in 1821, 18 years after America had first acquired Louisiana.

47:33But its control over this vast landscape is still, to a great extent, theoretical. The land the United States claimed included states that many people around the world know about now. Colorado, North Dakota, Wyoming. Colorado was governed principally by the Comanche. The Dakotas were governed principally by the peoples of the Siouxan language groups. Idaho was governed by people from various Native societies. It took decades for it to be true that the United States truly governed these places. And it happens through conflict. Happens in some cases through negotiation, but through repeated conflicts between the United States and Native Americans.

48:19And it's really not until the 1870s that the last of the Native peoples who governed land that the United States claimed through the Louisiana Purchase ceded their claims to the federal government. And that will be just this immensely important part of that story. And that story goes hand in glove with the creation of new states, normalizing this process, showing that the United States can expand.

48:47By the 1870s, a combination of disease, warfare, territory loss, and the deliberate extermination of bison herds has driven indigenous peoples, including the Comanche, Dakota, and Lakota, onto reservations. U.S. control over the territory they bought from France in 1803 is at last absolute. Over the same period, the United States annexes Texas from a newly independent Mexico and fights a war with them over California and New Mexico. Firm boundaries are established between British Canada and American claims in the Pacific Northwest. By the time it finally has control over Louisiana, the US occupies most of the land it does today.

49:34The Louisiana Purchase is a story of immense geographic and demographic expansion. With In hindsight, it is clear that it was not a single event. Instead, it was a process that took decades. And as it unfolded, it crystallized American ideas about political organization, racial hierarchies, national identity, and the destiny of the country. For better or worse, it made the United States into the nation it is today. I ask my students in the classroom, you know, how many of you are from California? How many of you are from Oregon? How many of you are from Kansas? Do you think you should have representation in Congress?

50:15And they say, of course. And I say, why? Why do you think you're entitled to that? I'm from Pennsylvania. I'm from a real state. You know, we declared independence in 1776. And they say, no, no, we have to be part of the U.S. We have to have representation in Congress. And that was a decision that Americans had made in 1787 when they created the Northwest Ordinance. but the Louisiana Purchase really normalized that and applied it over this enormous area of land. And it's hugely, hugely important. So there are these events that people always have to learn about, and we wonder, was it really that important?

50:49Well, the Louisiana Purchase was really that important.

50:59Next time on Short History of, we'll bring you a short history of David Bowie. Bowie is someone who can see how stories go and can see how trends go and how you need to go left when you're supposed to go right and zigzag and so forth. So I think one of the things he does is provide a template for how, as a pop musician, you can have a life, have a career. It's a stretch to compare Taylor Swift to him. But you can see Taylor Swift is doing Bowie stuff and that she has, every couple of years, she has a new look, she has a new thing, she moves here, she moves there. And I think that's very much a Bowie map.

51:38That's next time. If you can't wait a week until the next episode, you can listen to it right away by subscribing to Noiser Plus. Head to www.noiser.com forward slash subscriptions for more information. Come on. No. It's just a golf lesson, champ. Loosen up. I can't. See that Hyundai Santa Fe? Yeah. I only paid enough. finish up on your own i gotta run deal so right it almost feels wrong the hyundai getaway sales event get zero percent apr for 60 months plus zero payments for 90 days on the hyundai tucson tucson hybrid santa fe or santa fe hybrid now during the hyundai getaway sales event hurry offer ends march 31st call 562-314-4603 for details lux lock how can i help the irs said i filed my return but i haven't one in four tax-paying americans has paid the price of identity fraud.

52:31What do I do? My refund though. I'm freaking out. Don't worry. I can fix this. LifeLock fixes identity theft guaranteed and gets your money back with up to$3 million in coverage. I'm so relieved. No problem. I'll be with you every step of the way. One in four was a fraud paying American. Not anymore. Save up to 40 % your first year. Visit lifelock.com slash podcast. Terms apply.

From the publisher

A Short History of Ancient Rome⁠ - the debut book from the Noiser Network is out now! Discover the epic rise and fall of Rome like never before. Pick up your copy now at your local bookstore or visit ⁠⁠noiser.com/books⁠⁠ to learn more.

In 1803, President Thomas Jefferson negotiated the purchase of 820,000 square miles of land from Napoleon, including the modern states of Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and Colorado, among many others. At the stroke of a pen, the nation almost doubled in size. But the purchase of Louisiana was only the beginning. Immediately, the American government was forced to reckon with a series of difficult questions – not least about how to incorporate this enormous, multi-ethnic territory into the United States, and what to do about the Indigenous population who had inhabited the Territory for millennia.

 

But why did Napoleon agree to sell Louisiana in the first place? How did this territory, and its inhabitants, become part of the fledgling United States? And what impact did these monumental events have on the course of American history?

This is a Short History Of the Louisiana Purchase.

A Noiser podcast production. Hosted by John Hopkins. With thanks to Peter Kastor, Professor of History at Washington University in St. Louis, and lead researcher on the Creating a Federal Government project, a digital project reconstructing the careers of America's early federal employees.

Written by Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow | Produced by Kate Simants | Production Assistant: Chris McDonald | Exec produced by Katrina Hughes | Sound supervisor: Tom Pink | Sound design by Oliver Sanders | Assembly edit by Anisha Deva | Compositions by Oliver Baines, Dorry Macaulay, Tom Pink | Mix & mastering: Cody Reynolds-Shaw | Fact Check: Sean Coleman

Get every episode of Short History Of… a week early with Noiser+. You’ll also get ad-free listening, bonus material and early access to shows across the Noiser podcast network. Click the subscription banner at the top of the feed to get started. Or go to noiser.com/subscriptions
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

More from Short History Of...

All 70 episodes
The Louisiana PurchaseShort History Of... · 54 min
Listen in VO