Karrueche Tran Talks Skincare Self-Love and Embracing Natural Beauty

0:02Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Skin Anarchy. This is Ekta and I have such an amazing guest with me today. She is an Emmy award-winning actress and you guys might recognize her from her role on The Bay. She's also a multi-talented entrepreneur and has her own skincare brand and beauty brand now known as Ruchi Beauty. So without further ado, please welcome Ruchi Tran. Welcome Ruchi, I'm so excited to be hosting you. Hi, it's such a pleasure. I am so happy to be speaking with you. no likewise I really really love what you're doing in the beauty space and I can't wait to dive in and learn about all of it but I would love to like learn more about you you know what really led you into acting if you could walk us down memory lane a little bit give us you know some insight into what led you into your career yeah I I had a point in my life where I was kind of just like, what's next?

0:58What am I going to do? And I kind of just looked around at my, the circumstances and my environment and what I had kind of going on in my life at the time. And I wanted to push myself and I wanted to try something new. And, you know, I wasn't a childhood actor. I wasn't in arts and drama growing up, but I was working with somebody at the time and they asked me if I had ever acted before and I was like no it's kind of scary to think about I'm kind of shy and reserved you know for majority of most of the time but I was like you know what I'm gonna let's I'll try it and let's you know you never know until you try so like this very small role and from there it sparked a huge interest in me and it was one of those things where it was like was scary but then it's still I was still listening to that little voice in my head that was like no keep going you know and I started to take acting classes and just kind of work towards my craft to get better and to just learn more and to become a stronger actor so that was roughly maybe 10 years ago eight years ago around there my memory is such like a blur when it comes to time and like when you know things happen but it's been a journey and I'm so appreciative of it though and I'm so happy that I'm able to say that I am an actor today and um and I'm still learning and growing and on this journey and acting makes me very happy that's so awesome and it's so inspiring to hear that because I feel like there's so many people that it's so hard to take that first step and it's so hard to trust your gut and especially like in the world we live in now I just feel like there's so you know there's just it's a lot of hesitation is what I see you know in so many people and it's just so inspiring to hear that you just kind of you know you went with your gut and look at the immense immense impact you've made you know it's beautiful so thank you for sharing that I wanted to dive in because I mean you have such a dynamic career from acting and now you've launched Ruchi Beauty.

3:16What inspired you to take this leap into the beauty world? I mean, it's such a different world, I feel like, you know, from the entrepreneurial angle. Yeah, I've kind of always been into beauty and skincare, especially on this journey within in my career with acting. I've learned, you know, my face is on camera all the time. So I've had to learn what works and what doesn't. But it's been such a beautiful journey that I've enjoyed so far. So whenever I create a product or endorse something, I want it to be true and genuine to me. and the beauty world is there's just so much out there you know definitely wanted to tap in on the skincare side especially tools because not a lot of people you know use tools and I also you know I also had like my color pop collaboration you know years ago so beauty has always been a growing thing for me and as I created this line you know it just felt near and dear to my heart and products that like I genuinely use on a daily and I'm just happy to be a part of the beauty world.

4:36Absolutely no it's so cool that you you did this and it's so refreshing to see how you're building out the brand and I want to go into that like a little later because you know I it really caught my eye just as a general consumer like when you see the brand it's so fun and it's such a unique way to introduce skincare because I especially with the skincare world I agree with you there's so much you know beauty skincare all of it and consumers are so caught up in all of that so in terms of like finding that niche for yourself I mean how was that you know the process of finding that that place where you thought you know I can bring something to this industry yeah well again I I wanted something near and dear to my heart and something genuine and over you know the past years I've always talked about I'll like share products that I like or share different tips I've always dealt with like under eye bags and like puffiness so you know the cryo tool that I have, that stems from me dealing with that and me doing ice face baths or, you know, back in the day, like when I was younger, I would put spoons in the freezer and put those under my eyes to kind of soothe my face or just taking an ice cube and just rubbing it on, you know, all around my face.

5:58So I wanted to just make sure that like it was something, again, that was genuine, something that I always talk about and tips that I can share with other people because there's a lot of other people who deal with it as well. And, you know, one thing for me and I don't, we listen and we don't judge. Yeah, absolutely. No judgment. Like, you know, there's a lot of enhancements and surgeries and things that can be done. But again, I don't judge, but you just don't know how long those things will last and for me I try to embrace who I am and how can I in an organic natural way you know prevent puffiness or whatever it is you know I want I want us to kind of like and I want to be able to spread that message too you know to to the younger generation because I feel like it's so crazy when I look at like TikToks and videos and stuff like that of like younger girls they just look so grown yeah yeah no it's crazy it's wild and like again I'm not judging but it's like it's just life is just moving so fast and because there's so much the platform is just so spread open with with social media there's so much information out there and that things are just so advanced and it's kind of like oh let's slow down and let's let's embrace who we are and let's cherish what we have and like and if we need to enhance them in this way or that way how can we you know give ourselves facial massages to help if we're if we need a little bit of sculpting you know like I don't know I just like something more natural right like something more just like oh yeah like I feel like I completely resonate so much with what you're saying and I rarely get the opportunity to speak to a guest about this is you know you're so right this whole social media thing that's exploded you know in the last I think what is it 10 years now I think I've watched it for about 5-10 years it's it's just like snowballing and I again no judgment but it is like there's not enough natural like you know solutions like solution oriented like options out there especially like you know what worries me the most it's the youth like I worry for them because I'm like I would hate for a young girl to see this and then compare herself to this like Instagram or whatever it is you know right and that's what's happening and it's happening at such a young age and these girls want to look a certain way and they might be able to go get a surgery or a little Botox or a little lip filler or this and that again I'm not judging but you have to think about the wear and tear on your body especially at such a young age when they're still their bodies are still being developed you know down the line you keep getting more and more and then you're putting something into your body that your body might not like and it becomes a domino effect and so you know you just don't know what's gonna happen and I like a more holistic and natural approach and that also pours into somebody's confidence you know if they appreciate who they are and not have to feel like they have to chase after a certain look or you know some trend that's happening you know and it's like sorry I don't know if we're like getting off topic right now no this is great no I love it please continue you know you see hear stories about girls who've got their bodies done, but then they want to take it out because at the time that look was a trend, you know, exactly.

9:39Yeah. You have, you have to think about what's that, what that's doing to your body ways and how that's going to snowball into, you don't know if it's going to be a condition or a disease or something that happens later down the line, you know, and I'm so into just taking care of the body. And a lot of that starts from within. absolutely I love that you're I love that you're speaking on this like I cannot tell you like how happy my heart is to hear that because you're so in the limelight and you you you mean you see it you mean from the celebrity angle it's very rare to see this this opinion come forward you know what I mean because and I know it's there I know that people believe in it it's just that no one really speaks up and like you know I I really love you for doing this because when you were talking about you know wanting to remove like you've seen the cases I'm sure you've seen Instagram or TikTok where people are getting filler removed and then they're talking about all of these things that happen and from the medical angle like I remember having this conversation you know with like a colleague and I was like just medically speaking like it's so rough on your body it's so rough on you to get something removed you know what I mean and dissolved and then have to deal with all of that like reframing especially with the face you know like a lot of people get lip fillers now I think it's like pretty common at this point and it's very easy to overdo that and then when you undo it you deal with so much not only like the actual physical pain but the trauma of going through that right like it's just it's crazy to me it's scary and it's detrimental and it's like again it's a domino effect of like you know it's like you said it's a physical thing that happens and then it's a mental thing and it's just like you become warped into this world of where you can't even escape this one thing that you did because you want to fix it and you can't go to how you know you can't go back to how you originally looked exactly now I want to I want to ask you because I'm just curious like when you I mean with your acting career you know I know that there's so many like probably stressors and expectations and and just things that are like pressures right that come with this and how was that for you from like the perspective of beauty and like your own self you know the self-love that you have for the way you look and the way you want to look how was all of that like meeting your expectations and the expectations of you know whoever you're working with I mean how did all of that work for you as you were transitioning into your career I think I don't know if I'm answering this correctly but I think for me this is from like a creative standpoint you know well one this is why I've become so heavy into skincare I have to take care of my skin because when you're wearing makeup all day maybe over 12 hours a day you know that's that's a lot of wear and tear on your on your face and and you know staying hydrated making sure you you wash your face at night so you're you know you can look presentable and not have you know breakouts for the next scene that you have the next day but that's something that I had to kind of get so everybody has their own thing that they don't like about themselves or their own flaws you know when I would see myself on tv or in photos or like paparazzi photos I had to get out of my head because I would just just be so judgmental against myself and I'm like oh my hair looks crazy oh my under my under eye bags look nuts I look old even body wise like before you know now I I work out and I train a lot before I was just you know skinnier and I didn't like that and I was just so wrapped up into what I didn't like about myself I had to kind of pull myself out of that and And instead of focusing on what I did it like, how can I improve?

13:44Okay, if I feel, and I, it's so crazy. Like, I always hate talking about this sometimes because like, oh my God, skinny girl problems. But then it's like, well, it is, this is how I feel. It's every girl problems though. Yeah, like we all have our own thing. But like, you know, it's just kind of, it just kind of sounds crazy. We're like, oh my God, too skinny. People are like, girl, shut up. You know, but that is my life. I was born petite and small and I'm a 36 year old woman. and I don't like looking young because I feel like I want to be grown and you know as a woman like when in my opinion when you have when you're curvier and you have a bigger chest or you know you feel more feminine I had to pull myself out of that and stop judging and comparing myself to other people and so you know I started working out and now I love working out because it makes me feel good it makes me look good I'm able to enhance you know my thighs or my butt or my arms are a little more cut up even you know if I see a photo myself and I feel like my under eyes are are really puffy it's like okay well if I know that I'm gonna have a photo shoot or something the night before I'm gonna do a mask a very hydrating mask in the morning I'm gonna use my cryo tool to refresh and kind of wake up my face and sculpt my face I'm going to put on a pair of my favorite under eye patches before I leave the house on my way to the shoot so it's like I've learned how to just change and improve and and you know the little things that I can do to to kind of to kind of get out of that negative tone what I wish I look like or what I should have done because when you think that way that is also a domino effect that affects yes your mental you can't stop thinking about it and then your confidence and if I have a photo shoot I'm thinking in that in that negative spirit then that's going to show in the photos or the video or whatever it is that I'm doing you know yeah yeah no that's that's so that's so powerful that you said that though because I feel like you know there's I don't know a single woman we all have our issues, you know, but it's, like, it's the same, it's the same thing that we all deal with, you know, I think, intrinsically, where we're all just, like, we're looking in the mirror, and there are things that we want to, like, you know, whatever it is, work on, I guess you could say, but it's, like, finding that place of, like, balance, right, like, of self-love, and, like, what we are willing to do, and I, I just love that you're, you know, you can speak openly about this in a very positive way, because I think the narrative is very negative, you know, when I look on like media channels or if I look in the press and especially I'm sure for you this is I can't even imagine being a celebrity and having to deal with someone scrutinizing things you know what I mean about my appearance and about what I'm doing and that's got to be so rough you know so it's kind of like it feels good to know that you guys also feel the same way we do you know even those of us who don't go through any of that you know yeah it's like we're under a microscope yeah and it's magnified because of social media people are easily able to comment you know under a post or say something say certain things or whatever and it's just like it can take a toll on you and there was a point in my life where I was you know going through a dark stage that was very public and I had to like really remove myself and like stop looking at the comments and just focus on something else and that's when I you know it was hard and it took a while but I slowly just started to figure out what I liked as far as like in my daily life what can I do to improve and I started getting into reading you know self-help books and yoga and working out and just different things that like make me feel better because social media can be a dark who kind of go down that downward spiral then it's it's hard and and even this generation today you've I've seen a lot of articles and situations where kids were dealing with bullying and they'll like take their own lives and then harm themselves and that is so disheartening because it's like it's just kind of like unbelievable for a kid to have to deal with that you know if you think if If I grew up back in, you know, if social media was back in my day growing up, then I get it.

18:22Because it's like, you don't know anything but that. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's something that I always, yeah, I think about that. Like, I'm a millennial. So I'm like, you know, I look at it and I'm like, we had a time period where we didn't have to deal with this. You know what I mean? But like the kids now that are like 21 or something, like they've never lived without social media. So it's like kind of, it's their whole life. like everything's on there and it's constantly in your face in your face and it's like when do you find that boundary you know what i mean in your development where you're like okay i cannot look at this you know and i cannot i can't take these comments seriously and i can't keep comparing myself over and over again like it's so seriously it's a question that i wish more parents would put in front of their kids you know what i mean because i see young girls now where it's like you're too young like i remember watching tv shows you know back in the day of like like you know like the high school dramas and stuff and everyone looked like they were you know so young but they were really like in their mid-20s and it was crazy and now it's like the opposite you know because everyone's doing something to their skin or their face or it's just wild to see that absolutely you're right no I would love to I would love to talk about your background and how you like really kind of spoke to that you know especially with formulating a brand that is for beauty and not just like beauty but like self-care I mean I know that you have a Vietnamese background and African-American background if you can speak your heritage a little bit and how that influenced your perception of beauty standards and what you wanted to bring forward you know in the beauty industry again with any product that I create or design I always want to bring me into it even the name ruchi beauty ruchi obviously rue is from my name and then chi ch-i is my vietnamese name which also means energy and it's beautiful thank you and now we oh my gosh it took us such a while to figure out the name because that's such a huge and important part of the brand and And, you know, you don't know if I want to go too short or too patchy or what.

20:36And, oh, my gosh, we went through so many. We tried to, like, you know, do a play on certain words and use Vietnamese words. And we finally landed on Ruchi. And it just felt right. It sounded right. It looked right. And I'm so happy with it. And even down to, like, you know, the day that we launched on the 8th. 8th is a lucky number. And we have some other products that we're working on as well. And we're going to incorporate, you know, skin care tips or rituals from both sides, being African American and Vietnamese. And even some designs of stuff that we're working on. We're going to incorporate, you know, my both heritages.

21:27the heritages so that's always been an important part to me is making sure I bring who I am into my products and that's honestly worked really well for me people really resonate with those type of stories and when you're being authentic and and and you know bringing who you are into these products because there are so many products out there it's like yeah so over saturated there's so many things that I never wanted this you know this wasn't something where like I partnered with a company and we just slapped my name on it and we just sold products you know this is working on for a couple of years me and my team it's a small team of us and we wanted to make it right and you know wanted to make it the right fit and everything to to be perfect so well I think you did an amazing job you know and I really want to talk about the brand like some of the feedback that I have the the NanoMister is so cool to me where did you come up with this uh concept because I look at it and I'm like this is so cool like I feel like this needed to exist like for a while and I haven't seen anything else like it so how was the development of this product specifically so this is how it started when i was filming my show when i was on claws which we shot in new orleans new orleans is very humid and and i dealt with like a lot of allergies out there and so my skin is more on the moisturized and dewy side but more like oily sometimes so when we would be shooting a lot of times outside something about the air that would just and the moisture that would just like eat up my eat up the makeup on my face and I would get really cakey under my eyes like with the concealer and because we're filming and we're on tv you know we have a little bit more makeup than like every day so my my under eyes would just get so crazy and we we tried so many things so many different you know we've tried to take me and the makeup artist we would try to change different products use different techniques different powders different ways you would set the powders even sometimes you know when we were like on a lunch break we would wipe my concealer and kind of redo it because that's how bad it was and so we were kind of like that steven moleski was the makeup artist at the time we were like what how can we break down this the concealer to smooth it out so what he started to do is he brought in a steamer like a face steamer oh yeah oh I would steam my face so that the moisture the direct direct moisture would kind of break up the concealer and then we would we would be able to take the beauty blender and kind of like pat it and kind of smooth it out wow it's like repositioning it yeah like kind of like kind of like loosening it up I guess and then being able to smooth it without messing it up so we would have we would do that and that worked and so I just thought to myself like we I wanted to create something that I could that's more portable that we could use because the steamer is kind of you know it's big you can't really even though I'm tempted sometimes I won't lie like right no listen I've traveled I have like a smaller size student that I've traveled with before because I just love screaming my face it just feels so good so that's where the nanomister kind of came from but also I travel a lot I'm always on a flight always on a plane and when you fly or when especially when I fly that elevation just sucks the moisture out of my skin and so you know sometimes I would pack a small toiletry bag with me on the plane and kind of like rehydrate but sometimes I just didn't like you know you go through an airport and you don't want to like touch your touch you know some some moisture like bacteria everywhere like washing my hands it just kind of felt like I don't know another great way you can use the mister is that you can travel with it and just while you're on the plane it's kind of like that you know the Evian sprays that they have that but it's it's powered it's more motorized you know right I like it I like it better I think I know because it feels that the stream kind of hits it just it's just very moisturizing and hydrating and the way that the stream comes I feel like you get more of an overall coverage yeah yeah and we've tried I've tried to figure out a way to add something like a rose water or something in that we could use but because the nanomister is so sensitive we suggest to only use filtered water so that's just a thing I want to note for you and whoever else is you know deciding to use it only use filtered water because you don't want to clog the mister because the spout or whatever is it's it's where the stream is coming from it's very fine so always use filtered water and it's so I mean I travel with it all the time no it's absolutely like awesome like I love that you did made this product like I cannot tell you because literally like everything you said about like when you get on a plane your face is like literally hitting the desert or something I don't know what happens in an airplane but all of that negative pressure like it literally sucks moisture that you didn't even know you had in your skin out and so no it's beautiful and I think that you know when I first saw this product I was like oh my god like what is I was like a little confused and at the same time I was like mesmerized like oh my god I've never seen this like and it's literally that whole idea of like steaming is so good for like opening up your pores it's so good for like all these different things and we can't really do it you know on the go or anything like it and the worst thing in my opinion is those mists that like you had brought up like you know the water one Evian but like there's everyone has like a face mist now I feel like you know you can like spray on but it's so uneven like For me, it just leaves blotches of lots of water in one place.

28:19I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't know if it's the type of spray cap they use or whatever, but I've used one of those before, too. You spray it, and it's just splotches of water all over. It's like, oh my gosh. Not helpful. It's not helpful. That's why I think it's just so innovative. I really love it. I think that it's such a brilliant product. So, you know, for everyone listening, if you need something that you can't use regular face masks, like this is the product for you, like you will fall in love with it. So I love that you brought that forward. Even like, you know, when you go, if you're somewhere, let's say like Denver or somewhere where the climate is typically more dry or just anywhere in the winter, you know, you can use it on a daily basis.

29:05Keep it in your car, keep it in your purse, like any time. That's the best part. It's so portable. it's like literally like put it anywhere you know clutch you can put in your clutch you can put in your bag I love it I want to actually talk about you know because I know that you're really into you know just a healthy lifestyle overall and so I would love to talk about that also in terms of like what are some like lifestyle things that you really wanted to bring forward with Ruchi Beauty in terms of just overall wellness you know and like that idea of self-care yeah I think just what Ruchi Beauty stands for is just taking care of you, areas of your life, you know, what makes you feel good, what makes you look good, you know, that's why even like the Instagram page, it's not just strictly products, it's just my personal, and a lot of people ask if that's me or not, and that's really, that really is me, and just posting different tips of the things that I do that makes me feel good and as I've been evolving into this wellness world it all kind of coincides together you know whether it's beauty whether it's fitness whether it's mental health and you know with this platform that I have I want to be able to have these type of conversations these open real and honest conversations about something that I think is important you know in this day and age and like really loving who we are and really taking care of ourselves and really understanding who we are individually you know what what might work for me might not work for you but what does work for you and how can you incorporate that into your daily life you know even drinking water girl yeah oh my god water no I wouldn't I did not drink water.

31:00I drink Minute Maid juices all the time. You incorporate water. Right. Like, no, there was no, I didn't drink water at all. But now water is all that I drink. I drink water and I drink coffee and I drink celery juice, you know, celery. I hate celery. I never liked celery juice, but I drink it now because of the benefits, because it's good for me. You know, even something like beets right I don't hate beets but I don't love beets right I know how effective they are and so I eat them because I know I'm nourishing my body and giving my body the proper nutrients that it needs you know doing yoga just wanting to feel good and wanting to be my best self you know and so that's really the messaging with Roochie Beauty is just like outside of just these products that I have I just want to spread a positive influence to everybody to just you know invest in yourself and take care of you in all areas and be the best version of you and you know in my opinion I feel like when I'm at my best when I'm when I'm just feeling good even if it's I'm like singing a song that I like or listening to a song or reading something or watching something you know I always think it's best to to reach for that feel good thoughts that feel good moments that feel good meal or whatever it is to help like the vibe like raise your vibe exactly no I love that I really love that.

32:48I can't tell you like how refreshing it is to hear someone actually like speak about this openly. And I can't commend you enough for bringing this forward. You know, it's just so needed. And especially like the way that things move now in our world, everything's so fast paced. And I feel like people forget to slow down. You know, I think that's like, for me personally, as a consumer, like that's what I look for in brands. I'm not even gonna lie at this point. Like I know, it has to be science backed, all those things have to be there. but like just a way to slow down you know what I mean and a way to like embrace like self-care and self-love and so for you to like tell me all this and like to speak about it it means so much because it's it's really powerful to understand that message you know that you have to take a pause you have to take care of yourself you know in every way and beauty brands I feel like at some point our beauty industry strayed away from this you know and we started focusing on like just mass consumption you know of just like whatever you can get your hands on like just buy it you know it doesn't matter if it's actually like meaningful or not just get it you know in your collection and I'm I don't know I just I hate I hate seeing that now you know and in 2025 like I feel like we can do so much better so like what you're bringing forward is it's so meaningful in that way oh thank you thank you yeah i would love to like kind of get some advice from you and some like words of wisdom for anyone listening that you know they want to go into entrepreneurship or they want to do something of their own like in terms of just guidance of like what it takes to succeed or what you envision success as and you know any advice you can offer from just your journey so far in life you know of your career i mean you have such an amazing background any words of wisdom that you can offer i i would say one the world is your oyster you is that the quote is that the saying the world is your oyster right yeah it is yeah okay i was like wait yeah i know i do that too like with the ones who've heard a lot i'm like wait a minute am i getting this right did i say it backwards but yeah you can create the life that you want it's not going to be easy.

35:04There's going to be a lot of trials and tribulations. It's going to be a bumpy road. But if you in your heart feel something, go for it. Just like with acting, there was a time where I was going to my acting classes. I was doing this and that. And I was being told no a lot. And my agency was like, are you sure you want to act? Because you're not booking. And what do you want to do? And it was a little disheartening to hear that. It made me kind of second guess myself for a second. But I listened to my heart and that little voice in my head that said, no, keep going, keep pushing, get better, continue to go to your classes.

35:50Being consistent is a huge part of building your career and success learning how to navigate when you are told no you have to really just push yourself and just know that there is a light at the end of this this journey and this tunnel no I love that though I love what you're saying about that because being told no I feel like it's so hard. Yeah. And I feel like it derails so many people. You know what I mean? It really just becomes this like, well, I heard no, and I'm not going to do it again. Yeah, it's easy to kind of just like to give up and be like, okay, well, they said no. But it's like, that's life.

36:37Life is not going to always be peaches and cream. And you're not going to always get it. It's not always going to go your way. you know and those are the moments where you have to pull through and those are the moments that make you stronger and better and and let you remind you that you can do it regardless of what anybody says you just have to work hard one thing that i will say is this generation there are so many resources out there. Number one is YouTube University. Yes. We've learned so much on YouTube. And I'm pretty sure you can agree with me on this because I'm a millennial too. We had encyclopedias.

37:23We had Britannica. The church was different. We were struggling. We were struggling to find the supreme. We had to go to the library. We had to open the books. Even I used to intern. I used to invite. Oh, I did show an internship. I don't know if that's a thing anymore, but I used to work at this PR company and I didn't get paid. Yeah. But like that made me build my resume and it made me learn different work ethics. And I feel like I don't hear a lot of people, kids talking about that nowadays. But whatever your craft is, whatever you want to do, use these resources. if you want to be a writer reach their social media reach out to different writers that you admire or that you know if you want to be a dancer you know watch different YouTubes or reach out to different choreographers like there's so much out there that we can learn from and attain and help to make us stronger just at the tip of our fingers you know what I mean I want to say that this generation sometimes they want an overnight success yes I feel like you're like it's like telepathy going on right now I'm literally thinking what you're saying it is though I feel like this happens a lot now they do want overnight success because it's like you see it and I understand but we know what it's like going from dial up to the roadrunner to you know yeah it's a it's a journey man yeah like you've got to go through you got to go through it so I I feel like that's that's so important I love that you said that and I and I think now more than ever especially because you know what we were talking about earlier like when you don't know the opposite like you don't know what it feels like to not have high-speed internet you know or just sitting on a phone or like yeah like looking at the yellow pages like you know it's it's crazy life used to be so much different and it's just like we are so advanced and it's a blessing and a curse you know because me and you right now are able to have this conversation from two different parts of the world you know but there is that dark side where it's like we were talking about earlier about judging and comparing and you know wanting an overnight success because on Instagram that's what it looks like it looks it's all glitz and glam because that's what's posted but nobody nobody posts their their dark moments you know when there's you know a lot of the time so everything just seems like it's so easily attainable and you know I've even seen you know articles where like I'm probably quote misquoting this but like you know this designer Vera Wang or whatever designer didn't make her big hit till she was like 60 or 50 or whatever it is you know like these different or you know some actor didn't receive their first Oscar or or Golden Globe until the age of 70 or whatever you know like it takes time we have to take time to focus on what we want and to just really just work hard and and also be able to take care of ourselves like mentally and physically and it's it's a lot yeah it's a journey it's a journey like you have to go through the journey like what is it like another like one they always say like it's in the journey like the life is in the journey or like something like that I don't even know what the quote is but you know it's the joy is in that process and I completely agree with you I think that's such a beautiful message to put out there because right now yeah Like, I mean, social media is literally all it is, is just look at me, you know, look what I've done.

41:17And it's so easy to compare yourself to all of it and not see the other side of things. So, you know, it's such an important message to get out there. But I loved this conversation so much, Chrissy. Thank you so much for your time and your willingness to be real, you know, with the message that you're putting out there. Like, I can't tell you how much this means. You know, I've talked to so many brands at this point on the show and I love I love the beauty industry. I think it's one of the most dynamic and fast moving and just amazing industries. But it's so rare to see someone come into it with this truly genuine like I want to do it in the right way.

41:59And I love that you're doing that with your platform. I love that you're putting this positivity out there and this just reality, you know, of just being who you are. It's so, so needed. So thank you for everything you're doing. oh thank you so much I appreciate you and and your platform and everything that you do as well and thank you so much for featuring me thank you so much hey guys so I hope you love that episode please make sure to hit subscribe if you're tuning in to us on any podcast platform we are available on so many different platforms so wherever it is that you're tuning in just go hit subscribe you will be immediately notified when we publish new episodes this way you're able to tune in to amazing insights from experts, brand founders, industry leaders, authors, all the wonderful people that we host.

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