What It Means to Become the Face of Sephora with Marjan Tabibzada

19:36Marjan Tabibzada:And it makes it where like, it's very, very hard to talk about things when you know that as an influencer, you're, you just, that stereotype of like, of like, you know, like, oh, you know, you just live this lavish life and like, whatever, like, it's just, it's just like, we don't really like, we, we want you to talk about it. But also when we give the opinions, and we say it is just never good enough. You know, so I feel like that's something that is also hard for us, because it's like, at the end of the day, we're also human. And sometimes we don't know how to talk about things. You know, we don't know how to we don't know how to say it in the most perfect way.

20:19Marjan Tabibzada:And just because we don't doesn't mean we don't relate or that we don't understand. But that definitely is something that I feel like I struggle with. I'm not going to lie to you. And something, you know, recently happened to me where, you know, I spoke out about something and you're getting you're getting good and you're getting you're getting the love and the hate. So it's really you're just sitting there like, you know, you you're kind of like if you do it, you win. And if you don't do like I'm sorry, if you do what you lose and if you don't do what you lose so like that's definitely something that I feel like as influencers we we struggle with yeah no I can definitely see that and you know

20:54Skin Anarchy Hosts:it's interesting because I watch all this hate like I honestly like I'm just sitting online most time trying to wrap my head around like why people come at influencers so hard when in reality you're out here you're sharing your life you're you know you're giving people a sneak into what they wouldn't have the courage to do like a lot of us wouldn't have the courage to put our life

21:12Marjan Tabibzada:on the internet.

21:13Skin Anarchy Hosts:That's just a fact. You know what I mean? And I would love for you to speak on this because there is a lot of hate online. You know, there's a whole cancel culture movement. There's this whole like, doesn't matter how good of, you know, like you could do 90 things that are amazing and you do 10 things that are maybe like whatever. And it's like people want to cancel you, right? Like, I would love for you to speak about this because I think it really, really matters right now, you know, and I hate seeing it. So.

21:37Marjan Tabibzada:I absolutely hate seeing it. I feel like cancel culture is, is brutal. I'm not even gonna lie to you. It is so brutal. It's like you and then getting canceled for like the littlest things. Yeah, when I feel like some and I feel like genuinely sometimes cancel culture just comes from, you know, groups of people that just have already not not liked you. And then they may find one thing that you're doing wrong. And they're like, Oh, this is the moment, you know, and they get that moment and it's unfortunate but I think at the end of the day um and I can speak only only for myself is when you know and you're true to yourself and you just know your heart and for me I'm always like you know God knows me God knows you know my true intentions on whatever a situation can be like I just I just leave it to God sometimes like you know it is what it is

22:34Skin Anarchy Hosts:what what really what can you do nothing that's that's why really you can't do anything yeah you can't do shit and that's i think that's what pisses me off like that's what pisses me off the most about that whole thing is like you guys sit and you become keyboard freaking warriors over like okay i would understand if it's like a controversial topic right like a lot of creators post things that are like you know they're meant to start the pot meant to start up a conversation But like I'm seeing I am seeing so much nonsense just about like appearances of people, skin like the most like honestly, I would say like passive aggressive racism that I've ever seen in my life in these comments.

23:13Skin Anarchy Hosts:And I'm just like sitting there. I'm like, do you not understand like what you guys are spreading? You know what I mean? Like when you do that.

23:19Marjan Tabibzada:When me and my husband got married.

23:23Skin Anarchy Hosts:Yeah. I was like, what is wrong with people?

23:27Marjan Tabibzada:What is wrong with people? because I feel like with us, like we, so this is also another thing, right? At the end of the day, like for me personally, like I receive so much more love than I do hate. So it's like, I also don't usually let it get to me because I feel like I have such a good community and such good supporters that like, it's just noise at the end of the day. And also when you are in this industry, as people like to say it, like you're, that's just how it is. Like you, that's what you signed up for so okay uh you know i i i'll i'll give that to them but you know when when it was my wedding and i posted because i can you keep in mind i'm afghan my husband's pakistani and obviously there's just so many differences uh politically in that that the way that people like i i literally couldn't even imagine some of the things people were saying and i was like the audacity you know it's like it's like it's like I cannot stop what is you know happening you know in other countries you know and and it's like like what am what are you guys expecting me to do like I like literally like was like what is this and they're like people big oh you marry the enemy like how dare you how dare you marry the enemy you know or how dare you not how dare you not marry like an Afghan person and like things like that and I'm just sitting there like like what yeah what you know that's why I asked you that because I'm like I like I couldn't believe some of the things that people were just like like how dare you marry that that person that's like you're the enemy of the country

25:09Skin Anarchy Hosts:or I'm like what is wrong with you guys yeah no because it becomes like it becomes like a forum for people to like unleash their hate, you know, in all aspects of life. And it's like, I don't understand how we get like, I mean, I don't, but I know there are a lot more people now that at least I'm seeing that I saw like 10 years ago, you know, like I, maybe I was blind 10 years ago. I didn't notice it as much, but like lately, for some reason, every time I go into a great creator's comments, it's, I mean, Marjan, some of the things are like, when you're commenting on women and their their appearance when you're commenting on people's like eye color when you're commenting on like i don't just the most absurd crap i'm just looking at it and i'm like oh yeah you should never give any influence or any hate ever in life because you guys go through so much unnecessary crap you know what i mean in terms of like yeah there's a lot of good but yeah it's a lot of criticism so yeah yeah girl i have seen those comments i've been a part of

26:11Marjan Tabibzada:those comments I but again at the end at the end of the day it's like it's like if you just allow those comments to take over you're going to go into such a dark place that getting out is going to be very difficult you know and I'm so grateful that I have been in this industry for like 10 years now where now I know how to filter all of that out and just realize like like okay say what you have to say. And I've read it all. I've seen it all, whatever. And also, you know, I always say, if you don't, if you don't have haters, you're not also not really winning. You're really, if you're not being talked about in positive and in negative ways, like you're really not that, you're not that really, you're not that sorry.

26:58Marjan Tabibzada:You're not that relevant. So I give it to me all. I don't care.

27:03Skin Anarchy Hosts:I love that. I'll take it. I love that attitude. No, I'm with you. and I'm always cheering you on. I think you're brilliant with your content. And I think, you know, here's the thing. I really want to ask you this because I feel like we are now headed in a new direction when it comes to certain things with like the whole influencer scene. You know, I know there's a lot of like activities and, you know, like collaborations you've worked on that are very, very meaningful. And I'd love for you to speak on this where it's like, where do you think the influencer industry is headed when it comes to the intersection with beauty?

27:33Skin Anarchy Hosts:Like I know that, for example, I'll give you an example where everybody was doing brand activations, right? Like activation trips, like, you know, going overseas, that blew up for a long time. Now we're seeing a lot more, like, they want more Candid. Like, where do you think this industry at large is headed? And do you think we're repeating the same thing over and over again? Or do you think it's getting, I don't know, progressing, I should say?

27:54Marjan Tabibzada:I think it's definitely getting progressive. I feel like the industry for influencers is blowing up like crazy. I mean, did you see Cannes Lion? Like insane, you know, like a couple of years ago, nothing. Now it's like, I mean, I think, I think literally like influencers really run the marketing of brands on such grander scale things. I mean, I can't say too much, but even this weekend alone, we, I, one of my biggest dreams is coming true. Okay. And it is a moment in where like something that years ago, you're like, there's no way. But really the opportunities that influencers are getting and, but also you have to also understand that these opportunities don't come if influencers, they're not really getting or showing the results that they're showing to brands.

28:52Marjan Tabibzada:You know, for example, for example, I did one video of my phone falling 10 floors off the St. Louisville building, okay? yeah video has like has a million like a million people like that video on tiktok alone a million people okay people in the comments are like this is this is the perfect ad for apple yeah this is the perfect ad for like if like whatever case you use i need to know it because i need to buy it you know so like and at the end of the day like who watches commercials nowadays yeah who watches even when you're on take on youtube i want to skip the damn ad i don't want to see the ad you know but really people trust the influencers and when you relate to a content creator it brings such a powerful take on why brands should work with you right because you have this this source of trust so i really see the influencer you know industry just continuing to just blow blow up in like ways where like I think we're going to possibly get rid of celebrities and we're going to be the faces of pretty big big brand and stuff yeah I definitely can see that because like there's

30:05Skin Anarchy Hosts:so much like like that I saw that video by the way that you're referring to like this is brilliant like I don't I know it happened but this is really really brilliant and it was actually crazy yeah no that like literally yeah like that is like something where it's like that's the kind of content that we never get like I feel like ads I always wonder this but I'm like whoever is like managing ads on like meta like you need to learn something from like what what's going on like you know how do you really make things like actually pop and be interesting to people because we still have this like gap between like traditional marketing and like where you can tell it's fake nobody cares you know and then what influencers do is like so so different you know what I mean so it's like there's you got to fill that gap that understanding gap you know and I I'm actually curious, like what are some brand deals?

30:51Skin Anarchy Hosts:I know because at your stage, you have millions and millions of followers at this point. What are some of the things that you really screen for in a brand deal? Like what really matters to you versus red flags that you're always trying to avoid? You know, it doesn't matter who it is.

31:05Marjan Tabibzada:I mean, for me personally, you know, I feel like authenticity starts, you know, long before a contract does, you know, with a brand. And, you know, the first question that I always ask myself is what I genuinely recommend this, you know, this, if there wasn't a campaign attached to it. And I feel like the best partnerships are really the ones where the brand, you know, already fits naturally into my routine. And those collaborations, you know, don't feel like advertisements, you know, they feel like sharing something that I had already been talking about. So that's, that's really how I, I distinguish between like, do I want to work with you?

31:41Marjan Tabibzada:Or do I not want to work with you? It just really has to fit into like, my content.

31:46Skin Anarchy Hosts:yeah that makes sense i mean i just like wonder because i know i like and this is i'm like nowhere near where you are obviously but i remember getting a an email once and like it was wild right because this brand was like not only do we want you to promote this product we want you to make up like ratings for another brand and rate them badly you know what i mean and then it was like and these were like major brands like it wasn't like you know and i'm just sitting here And I'm like, if I got this email, you know, and I'm like, like literally not doing this at all. Right. And it's like, if I'm getting this and this was a legit brand, I wonder what people are really getting, you know, where it's like, where do you as, you know, having your platform draw that line and say like, okay, I will even no matter who you are, you know what I mean?

32:34Skin Anarchy Hosts:I'm not crossing this line. Like that's kind of what I'm asking.

32:38Marjan Tabibzada:Yeah, I could never do that. I could never be like, thankfully, I've never had a situation like that where a brand's like, this is the deal, but we need you to lie and say that this changed this part of your skin or whatever it is. I would never say yes to that. Because at the end of the day, you think about it, right? If people are buying the product and it's not working, they're going to comment or they're going to say, this is bullshit, girl. Like, Marshawn, you completely talked about this. And it's like, I don't want to do, I wouldn't want to deal with that, you know? And I would never want my followers or the community that I've built on trust to feel like they can't trust me anymore because then what is the point?

33:17Skin Anarchy Hosts:Well, that's exactly why I'm asking you because here's the thing. Not everyone is where you are, right? I feel like there's this subculture that's developed over time where it's like the smaller content creators are like, well, I just want to get to this level. you know like I want to have like 3 million followers or whatever their goal is and they're like I feel like I have to do certain things to get there and I would love for you to give advice to that demographic of like how do you stay true to yourself and how do you like kind of like pass up on the money if you have to you know but you stay true to who you are because of what you were

33:51Marjan Tabibzada:saying you know like the trust aspect I don't think doing that is going to get them to any level, I think it's going to hold them back because your audience is so smart. Just audiences in general, people are so smart. They can, they can find BS so quickly, you know, and not to mention we're also in a day and age where everybody has access to the same products, you know, and like you make a video saying this worked on you. Someone else will be like, girl, that is a lie. That did not work on me, you know? And if your audience is picking up that, like, you're just lying and it's a facade they're going to know that like trust me like audi like people on socials know when somebody's bsing like there's no way to get around it and there's no way of trying to level up when you're just lying to get your way because it will always come back full circle

34:40Skin Anarchy Hosts:yeah yeah no i think that's such an important message though genuinely because i feel like what influencer culture did for a lot of people was like this like just terrible understanding i feel like it's just such a misunderstanding that it's like you become an influencer and you're instantly rich and so it's like now we have no yeah that is the biggest misconception and i

35:04Marjan Tabibzada:will be here to tell your audience that right now just because you make content does not mean you're going to be rich i was making content for years before i ever got my first brand deal when I got my first brand deal they paid me maybe like a thousand dollars okay and that was like them asking for like a bajillion videos a bajillion reposts like that is so not true even when I was making a couple brand deals here and there I was still working at MAC Cosmetics I was still freelancing I was making more money doing freelance makeup as a makeup artist on the side for like six to seven girls than I was on social media for years for years yeah see that's

35:50Skin Anarchy Hosts:exactly what I wanted to hear from you you know like that genuine feedback because like I just I worry so much about the youth you know because they're like a lot of people I don't know if you've seen these videos but like like I swear the other day I saw a video and this girl was going I'm not even bothering with college like I'm not going to go to college I'm not going to do anything

36:07Marjan Tabibzada:yeah do that and and again look at my example I still got my degree yeah I still graduated you know I still was like I'm getting a degree I you need a plan b okay yeah content let me tell you something okay yeah got banned almost like four times okay all of the the these uh you know content creators have millions of followers let's say tiktok got banned what what the hell would you have done? What would you have done? You know, like you need a plan B, you know, whether that's, I mean, even another advice that I love to give is make sure that you are making content on more than one platform, okay?

36:50Marjan Tabibzada:Your source of income and content should not just be, for example, on TikTok alone. You know, we, and that was something that I learned from the start. That's why we have a platform on Instagram. We have over a million on Instagram. We have over, you know, millions on TikTok. We have almost several millions on YouTube. We have a Snapchat series. Like, you cannot rely on one platform because as we have seen time and time again, platforms come and go, and you have to be able to transfer everything. Threads just came out. Like, you have to be able to be relevant on several different platforms and you cannot rely on one at all.

37:31Skin Anarchy Hosts:Yeah. No, I'm so glad you said that. And I feel like that's so, like, there's a real business strategy to this. That's really what I was like trying to get at with my question was like, that's where I think a lot of people don't realize, you know, like, okay, you might be starting off and you might be blowing up, but like, there's a strategy that needs to be here, you know, and a plan in place and you cannot replace proper education with anything else. Like, that's my belief, you know, like, I feel like you need something in life. You need to be educated, whether you're going to college, whether you're doing something like you've got to have something that it's more than social media, you know, and I feel like a lot of the youth, they just fall into that trap of like, screw it.

38:10Skin Anarchy Hosts:And you know, I blame honestly, for that is all the bros, like the Silicon Valley bros that like, you know, no, seriously, because they're like out here and they're like oh I'm a high school dropout and I'm a I'm this and this and this and I'm like

38:25Marjan Tabibzada:stories that okay yeah there's outliers you know there's stories that you know one thousand percent I have several family members that did not go to college but they are millionaires right now they are killing it so yes sure but I always think that there needs to yes like you said, a strategy, a plan, and it has to make sense, you know, because at the end of the day, when you are in your 18 and you're 19 and you're 20, like you're dreaming, you know, but when you start getting, you know, older, you know, now you're 25, 26, now you're getting into 30s, like real world sets in where you're like, wait, I may get married one day, you know, my husband may not be, you know, may, you may not work.

39:13Marjan Tabibzada:Oh, God forbid something happens and they get injured. You're responsible. You have kids now. You know, what if your kid has a disability? Like, there is real world problems that actually end up happening and you have to financially be ready for that. You know, people are blessed to have rich parents. A lot are not. I was one of them. My dad was a security guard. He, you know, worked two jobs, you know, trying to feed six kids, you know so like it was not like a thing where like it was like i'm gonna just go make content and i'm gonna make bajillions of dollars and i'm gonna know you know and i was also a part of that that era where tiktok was getting banned and i'm like shoot like we have like three million followers on here and gone and gone in a night you know so now you now you have to figure out now what are you gonna do like what's what's what's plan b yeah that's that's really like

40:04Skin Anarchy Hosts:that's what it is is like i feel like you got to build your skills in some way you know what i mean if that's not school for you or it's not college that's fine but like there needs to be some sort of a skill you're building over time that's that's genuinely what I feel like and I think a lot of times the youth just thinks like if I have an iPhone if I'm sitting in front of my phone making content about I don't know eating pizza you know like I'm gonna just turn into an influencer like I've seen that you know I've seen these videos and I'm just like guys what are we doing like let's go to school let's go back to let's go back to college you know the thing with

40:35Marjan Tabibzada:me is I never see some some can make it though yeah oh and so I think I think there's there's it's like a it's this thing you know there's also like pretty culture you know some people blow up just because they're pretty that is a very very real thing I have seen it time and time again you know so it's like everybody's situation and scenario is different and some are blessed to become overnight successes, period. Others like me have had a, you know, we have worked day and night. It has been a long time to get to places that I want to be, but I'm so grateful that I have been able to stay relevant for almost every single era of social media now, right?

41:15Marjan Tabibzada:So again, strategy comes into place. You have to know your audience. You really have to know what you want to do. And, you know, also you need proper teams. You know, back when I started, when there was no blueprint, there was no blueprint. Now that there is blueprints, there is a lot that goes into place. There is managers, there is PR people, there is agencies, like there is a whole bunch of stuff. And also keep in mind, in order to get into those rooms, you have to be able to show that you have something to offer, you know, so you can't just be like, I'm a content creator. That's fine. But also, so are a lot of people, you know, this industry also has become very, very saturated and you have to be able to be like, you have to kind of stick out nowadays also.

42:00Skin Anarchy Hosts:Yeah, absolutely. No, I can imagine how competitive it is. And it's really, no, I have a lot of respect for like the influencer, like, you know, just community at large, because I know it's really, really tough. And I think that's why I asked you that question when we started off was like, you know, like kind of walk us through some of your war stories or something, because I know it's tough. And I just, I, I really hope that whoever's wanting to go into this like they understand that you know like like anything else this takes work it takes dedication it takes consistency like you gotta you can't skip over that part you know that kind of thing so yeah very interesting now I sometimes my husband wanted to

42:36Marjan Tabibzada:get into content creation like sometimes he'd be like oh you know like and he'll try it and he's like I don't even know how you're doing this this is way too hard for me but he's a doctor he's you know he's a dentist and you know he has an established career and he's he even him he'd be like, oh, content creation, like, like, whatever. And then he would try it. And he's like, babe, like, just standing and talking in front of a camera is such an awkward thing. And it's so cute. Because we would I would do a track and we went to Miami Swim Week. And I was doing a trend with him. And it was like, yeah, like, like three words he had to say, and he couldn't do it.

43:09Marjan Tabibzada:And he's like, we're like practicing. And it's so cute. But he's like, babe, like, this is actually really difficult, you know, and there's also a sense of like, as a content creator you have to have the phone this in in in public in private and and that's also a sense of like I don't know how you do that I don't know you have to be able to be like in an airport and you're like hi guys and you know that the people next to you think you're a psycho you know or you're like you have to do things like in the moment and it's there's also that fear that like you know some people can't do but you if you want to do you got you you you have you You have to do those things.

43:45Skin Anarchy Hosts:I love that. And yeah, thank you for keeping it real because that's true. That's so true. And I'm curious, what have been some of your favorite, I don't know, maybe like brand collaborations or just opportunities you've gotten as you've progressed on your journey?

43:59Marjan Tabibzada:Oh my gosh. My first billboard in Times Square, what was that? Last year, I think that was. And it was three billboards right where the ball dropped on New Year's. And I was just like, oh my God, when you don't have that representation or when you are not the ideal candidate of someone that should be on a billboard in Times Square and to see, you know, us being represented or having those opportunities is like such a surreal moment. And it makes me emotional. I don't want to cry, but like it makes me so emotional because it's like you look back on times and the hard work and the dedication that it took and being able to be a part of those opportunities is just like, it's so surreal, girl, you know?

44:50Marjan Tabibzada:And when we went to New York and we like saw it and it was like so massive, oh my God. And I was just like, I cannot believe that to me on a billboard in Times Square, you know? And we went there again at night and I was like, this is crazy. And I'm just a blast. You know, when you go on brand trips, like we literally went to Paris with Clarence and like, you know, even being able to fly like business class and first class. And these are just experiences that like, I don't ever want to take for granted or I don't want anybody to ever think that I'm not, I'm so grateful. I'm so blessed to even be in spaces like that.

45:30Marjan Tabibzada:I think it's, it's, it's amazing. So yeah.

45:33Skin Anarchy Hosts:I love that.

45:33Marjan Tabibzada:So I am the face of the campaign for Sephora in Times Square for the entire month of July. I am the face of Dermalogica's campaign, you know, yeah, in Sephora. So literally after this, I'm flying out to New York to see the billboard. It runs every five minutes, every five minutes run for the entire month of July. I'm so excited congratulations I'm so excited I have been so emotional like you have no idea I have been crying almost every single day because and it comes down to like the fact that like you I look back at my career and I just think about like I was that girl that like you know grew up with six siblings my dad you know like you just think about that like we did not have the easiest life I did not come from a rich family you know when you would think when I would go to New York and I would go to Times Square I would look at these billboards and I'd be like there is no way that I could ever see myself there because I'm like I don't have the resources how would how would you do that how would you even make something like that possible you know coming from the backgrounds that you know some of us have you know it was always like a like a dream and I would be in rooms where I felt like I was looked at like yeah you're all yeah I know okay yeah billboard yeah let's put that in as a goal but like uh who's gonna put you on a billboard like who who like who's gonna put you on a billboard you know I don't fit a stereotypical like uh model you know look or you know whatever so you know for it to happen it just I just look back at my um just my my life and I'm just I'm so grateful I'm so grateful it's so

47:24Skin Anarchy Hosts:I'm just gonna be crying the whole time. It's so, so well-deserved. You are such a beautiful human being and your content resonates with so many of us. And I am so excited for you. Seriously. Thank you. From my heart. Congratulations, dude. That's cute. Yeah.

47:40Marjan Tabibzada:And it really, I give it all to all of the girls out there in the world that, you know, have these dreams and these goals and they don't think it's possible because they're living in situations where they're like you know struggling you know living with you know uh you know families where it's like so difficult to put even put food on on the table and you're just like oh my god like this is a dream that I have but there's just no way I'm there's no way it's there is a way

48:07Skin Anarchy Hosts:there is like that's what that's honestly like what I had asked you like when I I remember asking this question earlier in the interview where I like that's exactly it right because like there was a post you made and I swear I was bawling for five minutes watching it over and over again and it was like a simple post but like you were just it was just words on like you know two pictures and one of the bottom picture was a woman that you know she full hijab like you know she couldn't like do certain things and like you were like in the you're writing like don't complain about little things you're like think about everybody that cannot do this and can't have this opportunity and I think that's to me what stands out so much about you is that you're like you're putting this in a place that like a lot of women are going to see and they're going to be like that's me you know like that really resonates with them they can really understand like oh this is an actual thing that can happen you know in the world like i and that's so so powerful dude like on so many so many scales and i i'm so glad that sephora is doing this first of all that's amazing you know

49:14Marjan Tabibzada:so yeah it's been something that i i've had to keep a secret for like a good two months now and it's happening literally tomorrow and I'm I'm so grateful I I cannot I can't wait and I'm

49:28Skin Anarchy Hosts:I'm just so grateful I'm so grateful I'm so happy it's gonna be amazing I I can't wait you're gonna kill it you're gonna kill it and it's gonna be amazing I'm so excited for you no that's beautiful I'm so excited and yeah I just want to wrap up the interview by asking for you to kind of give some words of wisdom you know for all of the the young ladies out there that are trying to make their way through life and the world and navigate this whole crazy social media scene that's happening right now? Any words of wisdom you can offer about where to start, what to do, how to keep yourself going, motivation?

50:01Marjan Tabibzada:Yeah, I would tell people to stop waiting until they feel ready. I think a lot of us believe we need to have everything figured out before we start, but that's really how it works. I didn't have any answers when I started creating content. I learned by doing, by making mistakes and really by staying curious. And sometimes you just have to start and trust that you're going to figure it out along the way. So do not, do not wait, just start. And that has nothing to do with content creation. That's with anything, anything, you know, like we as women are so, we can, we really can do anything, you know?

50:38Marjan Tabibzada:And I think maybe there's like this stigma of like, you know, we can't, or it's harder for us. It's like, it's not, it's not. And I think age is just a number. I love that. Awesome.

50:48Skin Anarchy Hosts:Yeah, it is just a number. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's awesome. And I really, really just, I love your content. I hope you keep going forever.

50:58Marjan Tabibzada:You're such a joy.

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