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Sky Sports Premier League Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Bournemouth holds Man Utd in an eight-goal thriller at Old Trafford!
Hosts and Guests
- David Jones (Host)
- Jamie Carragher (Pundit)
- Oliver Giroud (Guest Pundit)
- Neil Reynolds (NFL Host, mentioned)
Introduction
- The episode revolves around the dramatic match between Manchester United and Bournemouth, which ended in a 4-4 draw.
- Both teams displayed a mix of skill and resilience, leading to an intense, high-scoring match.
Match Overview
- Score: Manchester United 4, Bournemouth 4
- Key Highlights:
- The match was characterized by its back-and-forth nature, with both teams taking turns to score.
- Manchester United took the lead three separate times but failed to secure a victory.
- Bournemouth showed remarkable determination, coming back each time they were down.
Key Moments
- First Half:
- Manchester United began strongly, with notable performances leading to a 2-1 halftime lead.
- Goals were scored by key players, including Casemiro, who showcased his threat during set-pieces.
- Second Half:
- Bournemouth exploded out of the blocks and equalized shortly after halftime, showing their attacking prowess.
- The second half saw numerous chances, including a near miss by Bournemouth in the closing stages.
Statistics
- Shots: 39 total; 25 by United and 14 by Bournemouth.
- Shots on Target: 9 each, reflecting both teams' attacking intent.
- The match featured two direct free-kick goals for the first time since 2012.
Managers' Perspectives
- Ruben Amarin (Manchester United Manager):
- Expressed frustration over dropped points but acknowledged the positive performance.
- Identified that details and concentration were key areas for improvement.
- Andoni Iriola (Bournemouth Manager):
- Highlighted the team's aggressive and open playing style.
- Took solace in the attacking performance despite the defensive lapses that allowed United to score.
Player Performances
- Bruno Fernandes: Scored a brilliant free-kick and was pivotal in United's attacking setup.
- Matthias Cunha: Scored a crucial goal and contributed significantly to the attacking play.
- Bournemouth's Attackers: Displayed impressive counter-attacking skills, continuously putting pressure on United's defense.
Key Concepts and Takeaways
- Defensive Frailties: Both teams struggled defensively, highlighting the challenges of maintaining clean sheets in high-stakes games.
- Resilience: Bournemouth's ability to come back repeatedly showcases their fighting spirit and resilience.
- Premier League Entertainment: The game was described as one of the best of the season, portraying why the Premier League is regarded as the most exciting league in the world.
Guest Discussion
- Oliver Giroud: Shared insights on the excitement of English football and reflected on his own career achievements.
- Discussed the significance of teamwork and movement in scoring goals, emphasizing the importance of understanding among players.
Conclusion
- The episode closed with acknowledgments of the thrilling nature of the match and anticipation for upcoming fixtures, emphasizing the continuous excitement of the Premier League season.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Thanks for joining us on the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. we were at Old Trafford for Monday Night Football where Manchester United took on Bournemouth. This is how we saw things when the final whistle blew.
0:31And you might want to boo that full-time whistle because this belter ends with a point apiece. Regrets for both managers. I won't take you through all the scorers, but Lamont's at the end probably saving Manchester United from a defeat. But Gary, a way to sum that up. Absolute madness. I mean, a game, you said it ebbed and flowed, punch for punch, end to end, particularly in the second half. Tavernier in Bournemouth, just after half-time, explosive out of the blocks. But it was a game that, to be fair, you could not call. I'm not quite sure who's going to be happiest at the end. I said partway through that game I could live with how Manchester United played but what you can't get away from is it's seven points dropped in their last three games at home and for Bournemouth who've had a tough run recently they'll be delighted I think as they travel back down south that they've come back they were beaten well in the first half in performance terms but it's equal and there's a little bit of a numbness of what everyone's just watched around this ground but when you score four goals you feel like you're going to pick up three points in most games you would but not this one what a game we've just watched in the end at Old Trafford Manchester United four Bournemouth four and I think Old Trafford is stunned into silence by what they have just witnessed three times they led in the game three times Bournemouth hit back and still had chances to win it in those dying seconds Jamie Carragher what a game we didn't want it to end no we didn't and it looked like the referee didn't want it to end he was almost playing last next goal the winner but I would say I should have done yes I wish they would have done but I think we've just seen the best game of the Premier League season so far and that's what makes the Premier League the greatest league the greatest product whatever you want to call it in the world and you know what for the majority of that game Manchester United were absolutely fantastic.
2:34Bournemouth were not at the races at all in the first half, but they were fantastic second half, and what a game. Brilliant. What a coach, Andoni Arreola. Ten goals in his last three visits with his Bournemouth team to Old Trafford. But not enough to see off Ruben Amarin's Manchester United today. They're pretty happy with what they've done. Manchester United barely a smile between them, but they know Bournemouth. There was a chance there to snatch all three points. Brooks Krupe had a moment as well. What might have been and what an extraordinary victory that would have been. They have to settle for a point, which I think from behind three times they absolutely will take.
3:17So as Gary said, United dropping more points at home. And they missed the chance to go into the top five. but they are in sixth place, only two points behind Chelsea in four. How different that would have looked. Have they managed to get over the line in those last three home games against Everson, West Ham and Bournemouth, who are 13th now on 21 points, eight clear of the bottom three. Olivier Giroud has watched that with us. He's wondering if it's like that every week in the Monday Night Football studio. Four scorers for United, four for Bournemouth at Old Trafford, and it meant we were treated to an eight-goal thriller.
3:58And the beauty was there might well have been more.
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4:36Welcome back to the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. Let's get back to the studio for more reaction to today's game.
4:47Abumo, Shishko. A ball across, Cunha!
4:57Old Trafford couldn't be louder. Jimenez. That's going to break. Too much this game. Kruppi! And a celebration to match the scoreline. What a game. What brilliant entertainment. for all it finished in the end. Just the second time we've seen that many goals in a game this season. 39 shots, 25 to United, 14 to Bournemouth. The most we've seen in a game, the most shots on target, nine apiece. But we could not find a winner. They could not be separated after 90 plus. Well, in the end, it was 100 minutes, wasn't it? And there was huge disappointment when the referee finally blew the whistle for full time.
5:45Does that kind of game, Olivier, make you miss English football even more? I miss Premier League for that kind of game and it was really exciting. I mean, for the fans, it's the best football we can have on a Monday night. Absolutely. Like a boxing match, Jamie. Punch for punch. And we have to remind everyone of what actually happened in the first half, which seems a long time ago. It felt for a while Manchester United were in control of this game, particularly in the first half? I think it's the best I've seen Manchester United play, certainly in the first half under Ameren. Maybe going back to the first game of the season against Arsenal, maybe.
6:22But I thought Manchester United were absolutely fantastic, especially in that first 25, 30 minutes. It was almost a throwback to Manchester United under Alex Ferguson and Gary Neville playing. Fast attacking football, people being energetic, making runs forward, being positive, being on the front foot, winning the ball back early. There was lots of that. And as you see there, numbers in the box across coming in. there's four players in the box. Causes commotion there. Cunyre was fantastic in the game throughout. And you've got one wing-back. Or was he a wing-back? We're not quite sure, were we?
6:54When we watched through the game, whether it was the wing-back system at times, it felt like a 4-3-3. But there was a real interchange in the positions, systems, and as I said, there was intensity about them. But, as well as they played... They just couldn't shake Bournemouth off, Olivier. And this was the theme of the game. Every time United got in front, hasn't Bournemouth had something to say? Yeah, they were always on the go, especially on this counter-attack. You can see it's strange that no defenders are going across to meet Semenya.
7:36In that kind of situation, what would you do, Jamie? me because we you can see you can see Mason Maud is asking one of the defender to come over yeah and it doesn't happen and so many makes makes hay and then just before half time as Manchester United were really devastated to have looked like they were going in at one all managed to get themselves in front yeah well Casemiro's record since he comes to Manchester Manchester United scoring from set pieces is absolutely fantastic. He's a real threat in the box, especially in the air. And he gets another goal there. And yeah, it's a bad mistake from the goalkeeper.
8:20But Manchester United deserve to be at least one goal in front at half-time. So it was totally deserved going in. 2-1 at half-time and 37 seconds into the second half when we were wondering what Bournemouth's response would be. We found out. What a brilliant response, Olivier. Yeah, because they stay in the game, you know. They believe in them and always put pressure. You can see how compact the team is coming high altogether and they get the ball. it's a transition isn't it and this is a problem for Manchester United look at that finish it's quite simple and efficient I mean they get the ball back three seconds later they are in the box so and this is a striker in Evan Ilsen Olivier who scored one in his last 16 it didn't look like that did it?
9:24No he looks like in full confidence he made a good run the pass is at the in the good timing, in the good space, and they finish well from the left foot. So I'm happy for him because I know how tough it is. Like in period, you don't score. So 2-2, and then Bournemouth have got the wind in their sails. And look at Tavenier drive for the entire team, Jamie. But I just mentioned before what Casemiro gives you in terms of set-piece-wise, but this is the problem when you play Casemiro and certainly Bruno together, especially when you're playing against a team who's so good on the transition. it's far too easy to get at the back three and that's what we saw there, he gives the foul away and the goalkeeper listen, a goalkeeper would know better than me what it should be, is he a little bit deep because he's standing right on his line that's something I'd look at but just doesn't react well enough at all just looks a little bit deep to me and he just can't seem to get across but even though I think he's still maybe got a hand on that It was at this time that people started talking about Manchester United's famous home record at half-time when leading that hadn't lost since 1984 against Ipswich.
10:34And was this going to be the day? Well, no, it wasn't because Bruno Fernandes, among others, decided to have his say in the game. First time since 2012 that we've seen a direct free kick scored by both sides in the same game. What a strike, Jamie. Amazing. Listen, he's just a brilliant player, isn't he? You know, he has his critics, but it's not for his football. I mean, you think of the goals and the assists he's got. And if he had a few more trophies, if he won a Premier League or maybe a Champions League with Manchester, we're probably talking about one of the greatest sort of foreign players, certainly, to come to our show.
11:06But because he hasn't quite got that, but his numbers stack up as much as anybody's. So three apiece. Could anybody find the winning goal? Olivier, Manchester United struck first by another player who desperately needed a goal, Matthias Cunha.
11:21Yeah, that's well done by Embermo. after Cescou I'm not sure what he wanted to do but the defender... Just with the slip at the wrong moment. Yeah, he should have done better and I feel sorry for him because he's French. But it's tough because he has to take care about the second post also and I think it came too quick. But it can't finish though from Cunha, wasn't it? Well, it's a good finish, but you can see the keeper is not so far from the ball. Look, he anticipates the first post. But that wasn't the end of the scoring, Jamie? No, it wasn't. And you think, Luke Shaw is probably involved. He takes the throw in there again.
12:09Manchester United lose it and it's another transition. And somebody's running at them. Listen, that's the name of the game for Bournemouth. They're really good at that. But that first touch was absolutely fantastic. Olivier, does the first touch make the goal? Yes, most of the time. Control is so important, especially when you are in a tiny space to finish in a box. But the fighting spirit, if I can say, of one time, two times, and then, see, he almost lost the ball. But, you know, last touch, he just flicked it to the strike and a bit of… Can you do that, Olivier? Not really. Not at my advanced age.
12:59Brilliant that was, wasn't it, from Eli Kruppi Jr., who we've seen scoring goals already this season when he stepped into the side, the control, the finish with his first touches. I hope you never saw that at home. Whoops. I should have stood in front of him. But there was still time for a winning goal, wasn't there? We played 10 minutes of stoppage time as well in the game. And it felt like if anyone was going to win it, Jamie, it was going to be Bournemouth. Yeah, it was. And it was a couple of opportunities to Brooks. He's a really good player. He's been a brilliant player, as I said, for Bournemouth over a few years now.
13:34And that is one of them when you say if it goes anywhere else, either side of the goalkeeper, it does go in. Because you can see he's really desperate. He's always covering the cross, isn't he? What a cross also from Alex Jimenez, who did the assist on the previous goal. That's a Giroud header, isn't it, that near post? Yeah, I think he missed 10 centimetres. Brilliant ball inside from Daniel Bruns, wasn't it? What a touch with the outside of the left foot. And almost no-look pass from Samir. Jamie's reliving it. This could have been the greatest Monday Night Football of all time. I mean, if that had gone in.
14:09Oh, it's just inches, isn't it, from Kruppi. He just can't quite reach the rebound. But that could have gone anywhere, Olivier. Yeah. He was in the right place to try and get his foot on it, but it wasn't to be four apiece. It finished between Manchester United and Bournemouth. What a game. Just absolutely brilliant. And both managers, you have to say, played their part as well. And we will hear from them next.
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15:14What does he think about what we've just witnessed at Old Trafford tonight? Ruben Amram and Manchester United four, Bournemouth four. Here he is with Juliet Farrington. Ruben, I just wonder how you unpack what we've just seen here at Old Trafford tonight. It was a fun game for everyone at home. I think we started really well. We did a very good first half. the result should be completely different. And then, again, I think six minutes of the second half, similar to Nottingham, we lost the concentration and they scored two goals. But we managed to get back to the game. We scored two goals again and then we have to finish the game.
16:02Just a throw in our possession. We need to close, to think about not to go again, but to take calm and to close the game, in the end, was a fun game. Did you think when you went 4-3 up, that was it? Because I saw you celebrate wildly as well as much as the players. Yes, because I saw the effort of the players, I saw the effort of the fans, and in the end of the game, when you make 4-3, I have the feeling that we will continue to push, to score another one. So we tried, but in the end, it was a draw. The substitutions that you made as well, and you kept the formation fluid, but we did see that back four that so many people have spoken about.
16:46What do you take out of this tonight to go forward? The same, a lot of good things, but a lot of things to work. We are not winning games sometimes in the details. It's not about because it's a back four, back three, back five. is the details that we need to work, understand the momentums of the game. You need to be more clinical because, again, today against a very good team, we create so many chances to win the game and you should have won the three points. And also when you talk about the three points, we spoke in the build-up to this game last week, last Friday, about whether the glass is half full or half empty.
17:27And the fact that you've dropped seven points now in the last three at home, I'm guessing that's the one that annoys you the most. Yeah, of course. When you win away, you should win at home. But we need to focus on the performance today was different from the last two at home. So that is also a point that we pay attention and it's completely different. The result is the same. At one point it's frustrating, but the performance is different. And how do you go about now finding a solution as well? Because obviously you're going to lose two more players to AFCON tonight after this game. and you've got three centre-backs as well.
18:03It's sort of problematic for you, isn't it? But that is the fun part of being a manager. We'll try to find the solutions with the players that we have. So after last season, I think we are ready to cope with whatever they present in front of us. So let's move on. And we already knew we had some injuries. All the teams in England had injuries. We will try to find a way to score goals in a different way. Thank you very much. Clearly disappointed and frustrated having scored four but conceding four as well. Can you see the positives for Manchester United in this performance Olivier? Well the confidence for the strikers but obviously it's hard to win a game when you concede four goals.
18:53I think, as he said before the game, they need to be more efficient upfront, but you need to also be more efficient in your box. That's where you win games, in the opponent's box and in your box. They need to be more stronger, but it's not about only the defence, it's the whole team. but I've seen great things. I mean, they've been, they created so many chances and I really enjoy watching the game. But yeah, small margins, I'm not sure, I don't know. When you're at home and you win 4-3 and what, five minutes to go? You need to put the game, like close the game, as he said. and he should be very, very frustrated.
19:50He clearly is. He says it's not about the tactics and the formation, it's the details which is costing, it seems, Manchester United time and time again right now, Jamie. And this inability to keep clean sheets is really hurting any progress. Yes, it's a big problem for them. Now, they had problems at both ends of the pitch last season. We highlighted before the game, they're improving in attack. We saw that again tonight. Some of the attacking players from Manchester United were fantastic. They had a lot of young defenders out there as well tonight, which didn't help. You're on aid in heaven, yeah.
20:24Yeah, yeah. And listen, I've been there as a young defender. You make a mistake more often than not. It ends up in the back of your goal. And that was the case tonight. Because even though the game's finished 4-4, and Bournemouth probably could, probably should have won it at the end, Manchester United were by far the better team. And that was the first time in a long time, or certainly the first time under Ruben Amaran, when I felt like I was watching what Manchester United should be, where it's just wave after attack, wave after wave. There's counter-attacks and almost the opposition feel like they can't keep them out and you're getting sucked back.
20:56I've been there as a defender. You're getting sucked back into that box in front of the Stratford end. You can't get out. And then it was felt inevitable when it went 3-3, I think, that United would go and make it 4-3. I just felt that you'd seen that story happen so often before as players. We've seen that before, haven't we, Olivier? And I think we need to give credit to that team, Bournemouth, who didn't close the game and who attacked like they were at home. They play with freedom, like fearless. And yeah, we need to give credit to this team, which was really efficient up front. I mean, to compare with the XG, I think they made the most of it.
21:38We certainly did. clean sheets one still this season and only six in the entire time that Ruben Amram has been in charge of Manchester United 43 and that is right up there with unfortunately some of the worst of the clean sheet ratios that we've seen in the Premier League across a 40 game minimum and I suppose the big thing that's striking when you look at the graphic Jamie it's not so much the managers it's the clubs that they're in charge of Yeah, and listen, Ozil Adelaus almost became famous, didn't he? You know, for the front five and not really caring about defending so much at that stage.
22:17But for Manchester United to be there, that's awful, really. And also what makes it worse is Ruben Amarun's system. We talk about it a lot, I know we do, but more often than not, teams who play sort of a back three or a back five, they get pushed back. Maybe they struggle to actually create or be on the front foot, but they can make it difficult for the opposition. So that needs to improve very quickly. First manager to score for his team to have scored three goals, at least in three successive visits to Old Trafford. On the previous two 3-0, he had to settle for a point tonight in a 4-all draw.
22:48And we can hear now from Andoni Iriola with Juliet Farrington. In fact, I'm afraid that interview is not quite ready for us. It is now. So let's head across to hear from Andoni Iriola. Andoni, you were playing down your chances pre-match tonight. Could you make sense of what's just happened out there? No, difficult. Difficult to explain. I think, I suppose, for the neutrals has been a nice game. We've had everything. Moments where you think, OK, we're going to lose. Moments where you think, OK, we have this one and we are comfortable. But even at the end, I think we've had, in the last minute, the two clearest chances from Bruxy both.
23:34And I was like, maybe we win this one. but it's just a point. It's not a lot in the standings but I think we can take good and bad things from today. What do you take from it then? I think we are two teams that are quite... We play quite aggressively, we're quite open and probably today we've attacked much better than we've defended. I think the second goal is a cheap goal for us to concede. Just before the half-time, the corner is not even a great header and it's probably the goal where we can correct a lot of things. But also there are very good things because we've been dangerous and I think we've had good faces on the ball.
24:21So a little bit of everything, yes. What did you say at half-time? Because you talk about good things, very good things at the start of the second half. Yes, I think we've struggled in the first 15 minutes. We haven't matched up well, especially in the middle. And then after 15 minutes we corrected tactically a little bit. And I think we finished really well in the first half. I think when we scored the 1-1 and we were feeling comfortable and we were finishing the half much better. That's why the goal we conceded just from the corner, it has hurt me because we were in a good moment. And this is what I told the players, we are controlling now the game at the end of the first half.
24:58I think we felt much better and we've used it also in the second half. good beginning but also moment of magic from Bruno in the free kick. I don't think it's never a free kick. I don't think it's a handball but it's amazing what he scores. And it has been everything up and down today, yes. You talk about that up and down. I just wonder where from where you were standing from in that technical area, the emotions what were you going through? Was it like 90 miles an hour, 100 miles an hour? Yes, you didn't even know if we were happy finishing the game or give us one minute more or then you lose the ball and then finish it now because we are going to lose it and then five seconds and maybe we can even win it.
25:40So it has been a little bit crazy all the game and especially the last minute. We take a point. It's not a lot. It's costing us now a lot. We have to play very well against Chelsea. Just one point today. One point is you don't have like in the standings. It's not a big reward, but I think we can use these performances and try to get the wins in the next games. Deep breaths, relax, rest well, go again. Thank you. We go again quickly. Thank you. Thank you. His team are incredible to watch. That is absolutely clear. I just love that moment, Jamie, at 4-3, when he just got the message across to his team, there's 10 minutes, there's still 10 minutes, we can go and score again.
26:22He didn't panic, did he, at all? He was calm and measured. You can imagine the noise in that stadium. You almost felt like you would hear it here when that goal was in 4-3. But you always feel Bournemouth, there's going to be a chance with them. And they had three chances, scored one goal, probably should have gone on and won it. But they're a brilliant team to watch. You know, I love watching them. I love the job that he's done there. And for a neutral, you know, you get a ticket to watch a game. They're the team that you want to watch. There's always goals involved. They're always on the front foot.
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26:50Make it difficult for top teams as well. So another great job from him and his team. And Manchester United are delighted they're not going there for another season. When we come back, we will be talking to Olivier Giroud about the best players that he has ever played with. And there are some absolute superstars in a career that took him from French football to Arsenal, to Chelsea as well, and all the way to a World Cup. Olivier Giroud, our special guest in Focus next.
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28:20I have a big respect for Emmanuel for the year. He's a bad good monk, maybe the best in the world. Giroud coming in. That's it, come by Giroud. Full control and a fine finish. Olivier Giroud. Oh, what a way to a match, a return by Sanchez. And Giroud. The Scorpion touch. Completely taken, fabulously finished. Taking the room, back on the score sheet. His first Chelsea Premier League goal. Olivier Giroud passes again.
28:57And it's not over yet at the age of 39, playing for Lille and Ligue 1 and currently riding high in the top four of the French first division. And then you can see this this hall of trophies, Olivier, behind us as well. And I imagine not any sweeter than the one that's directly behind you. Because over the years also you can see the evolution of the hairstyle and the beard. There have been a few changes, haven't there? It's been an amazing career and you are still France's all-time leading goalscorer as well. We should point that out, but there is a certain someone that is... Or a couple of ones.
29:36Yeah, a couple of ones that are hot on your heels in that sense. But it all started for you in France and you had a couple of moves before really it all sort of came together. It seemed at Montpellier. Was that the springboard that took you into English football? Yeah, definitely. It was the step I wanted to play in Ligue 1 before I had the opportunity to achieve, I mean, to realise my childhood dream, which was playing in Premier League. It was always your childhood dream? Yeah, when I was young, I looked up to the Invincibles, the Gunners and also Chelsea. And at the end, I feel blessed because I played for the team, I supported when I was young.
30:30So, no, no, Montpellier was the big step. We won the league first year of the Qataris, the Qataris owners in PSG. so they were already strong and it was really unexpected, a bit like Leicester in 2016. And yeah, I finished top score and after being in national team and then I received that call from Arsene who brought me in London. Did you know Arsene at the time? Not really, not really, but I feel honoured and really proud. I remember back in the days it was at the Euros Cup in 2012 and my My wife brought me in her handbag. We were in Donetsk in Ukraine, playing the Euros Cup national team. And she said, look, I have something for you in my handbag.
31:24And it was a contract with Arsenal. Wow. So one of my best days. Amazing. So you fulfilled that childhood dream. You came to England and you got your first Premier League goal against West Ham United. And that must have been a really special feeling to see that dream materialise. After a few games, I think it was in October or something like that. It's a good cross from Lukas Podolski and as I often say, as I often say, first pass, first serve. That is just reminiscent of so many of your goals. When I picture you, I can think what Giroud goal looks like. And it's that run, isn't it? Across that near post.
32:14Yes. I mean, would you believe I was a striker as a young boy? Yeah. And every striker, I think, is always told about getting across the near post with a run. And it felt like so many of your goals were like that. Getting across that near post, getting across the defender. So you're highlighted here now. Talk to us about that movement. So, yeah, this one is a bit different. It's back. I try to stay available, but in an area, the guy who will cross can find me. This one is different because this one at the beginning of the action, I try to go behind the defender, then he can lose me. and then when he look at me, Alex, it's too late for him and I do the run first post.
33:07And after he's just about taking the information, like Santi knew me. He knew I was staying behind the defenders, then they can't see me and I knew he was going to put the ball there. So after it's just an understanding with your teammates. This is the one I really like. So you make that movement there initially because you think he's going to turn. And then you make that move there. And then it's too late because I anticipate, look, I go maybe half a second before him. So you think Ozil's going to maybe get on the ball here? Ozil, you think he's going to turn and cross now. So you make that movement now?
33:46If the cross is coming, I'm on the go. I'm always ready. And then I know it's going to be a one-two. and look, half a second before the defender, I'm already in front of him and the rest is just, as I said, the guy who passed the ball. Where does the timing come from? Because it seems like you time it perfect to always be in that area. How would you work on it? I'm a defender, you're the attacker and the cross is coming from here. So if you come here, what is it you're looking for? Are you looking for my body shape? I'll be Mesut Ozil for you. Yeah, you're Mesut. And I'm watching you and I have to know when you're going to see me.
34:29And once you've seen me, I try to stay first behind you. Then you can't really feel me, you can't see me. And for me, is it eye contact between us? Yeah, eye contact. Or like understanding, like we know each other really well. So I knew where he was going to put the ball. he knew where I was going to make the run in front of the defender. If I don't get the ball, it's going to be for cutback for my teammates. So just do the run for your teammates behind you. Is this something as a young kid you were taught and told about? Or is this something you just picked up in your game and maybe worked off different players?
35:09Yeah, back in the days, yeah. My coaches were telling me first post, first serve, as I said before, you know. and as I said, when you're a striker, if you don't get the ball, it will benefit to another team-mate behind you, either cut-back or second post. You have to move the defence, otherwise nothing will happen. I like the first post, first serve. In Liverpool, we have a saying like that. It's called first up, first rest. LAUGHTER
35:46That's one of my mantis.
35:52You made those runs time and time again. Sometimes you got the ball, sometimes you were ahead of the ball, but sometimes you were made famous for this other technique that we saw a little bit of, Olivier. Come back across to us. This was the first derby, North London derby. Sometimes it doesn't matter what kind of contact, just any kind of contact, the little flicks, the outside the boot. This one, yeah, it's when my angle is a bit too small, like bad angle. So if sometimes when you go first post, the angle is bad. I mean, you go too early or the ball is not coming at the right timing. So you have to deal with that.
36:32Sometimes that's why I use outside foot. For example, this one. Look how... How far. Yeah, that's why the defenders don't follow me because they are thinking, how come can he score? I'm just going to have a look at this one again. I'm fascinated with the hairstyle as much as anything else, Olivier, but that technique, is that something that you would practice over and over? Outside foot finishing? Yeah. Yeah, every day I training when I could. And the Bellerin, Hector Bellerin knows me. And because no defenders following me, he just put the ball at the right place at the right time. And after, yeah, I had a bit of luck because in the post, you are racing.
37:19You ever practiced this one? Did this ever happen in training? Say again? Did this happen in training? No, this one, no. You can't say I practiced this at training. It's just instinct movement, like finishing. The ball of Alexis is behind me, so I just tried to hit the ball how I could. Was that the most special goal that you ever scored? Yeah, definitely. You won't see it again. I mean, with all my humility. I mean, that's why I said I was touched by God's grace, because everything was perfect. And that team that you were part of was famous for the amount of football it played at times. You know, the criticism was sometimes walking the ball in the net.
38:00The best goal I didn't score. There's a little touch and another one. This one is too short in all academy football. It's the same, everything was smooth. Was this sort of what training looked like at Arsenal? At Arsenal, yeah, tiny spaces. Arsenal keep saying the more you get towards the final third and obviously less time you get with the ball. So just try to flick it on. Jack Wilshere at it again. Would you take as much satisfaction from a goal like that as one that you scored? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not a Scorpion king. Not a Scorpion. Most of the goal I scored, yeah. I'm so proud to be part of this one.
38:51This Arsenal team you were part of, it was criticised a lot for not taking that extra step and maybe winning the league or maybe being tough enough to win the league. You mentioned earlier on in the show about maybe the mentality of the team getting to February and March. But when you look back at that and reflect on your own achievements, are you proud of that? I'm really proud of it because when you can't race for the title, if you win the FA Cup, it's big. When you arrive in the Premier League in England, you understand how important is the FA Cup. So, a bit of regret about this year, 2016, because I had the feeling that we could have done better.
39:39But then after our opponents in the title race were too strong, Man United, City, to be honest. too strong. The squad they had, we were behind. In 2018 you left and you had that personal glory, being part of an amazing French team, which has given you so much satisfaction and personal pride down the years to be part of this extraordinary team and to still be the highest scorer. There's nothing above winning a World Cup. This is a childhood dream. This is your team. It was the 2018 team, special team. We created memories, like emotionally, it was incredible. What can I say? I can't find the words.
40:38and yeah, it's a dream of every single player, you know, to represent your country and to win a World Cup for your family, for the French people. What was it like playing this team? What was your role within this team? Obviously, you've got two of the best French players probably in the history of French football and Mbappe and Griezmann around you. What was your role to facilitate them? So you have to remember that we've been leading the whole competition about nine minutes to Argentina. When Pavard scored the second goal, crazy goal, we were behind nine minutes. Apart of that nine minutes, we were leading the whole competition.
41:24So we basically scored early or we were leading the game and then we defended really well. And the reason why my 3D was on the left wing, which is not his position, is because he brought that balance in midfield when we lost the ball. And we were really tough to play against, for example, Belgium. We were really frustrated because we've been defending the whole game. And at the end, we just won that game because we've been efficient and really, really strong defensively altogether. I remember I was defending here next to Pogba and Kante with Griezmann against Belgium. So, you know, when you lead, you have to keep the score and to defend your advantage.
42:20And my role was like older player, like older striker, to help Griezmann to have someone to play with in the box. He liked to be a bit like Hazard, Willian and Pedro at Chelsea. They loved playing with me because they knew they were going to get the ball back in the box. and obviously I try to also be there for Kylian and just, you know, send him in the... We speak about Mbappe a lot. Is Griezmann someone we don't speak about enough? I feel over the years when we've seen him in the Champions League, what he's done for France, for me he's been one of the best players in the world. He doesn't get spoken about enough.
43:12Yeah, because he's quiet. But he was our playmaker and he is a team player. A complete player in the sense that he can pass, he can score, he is clever, technically easy, he's very intelligent. But when I look at this team, we were really a complete team. We could run, we could be good on the ball, we had pace, we had legs also and energy with Parva and Hernandez, which was their first game with the national team. We forget that, but they just arrived a couple of months ago before the World Cup. And we are also generous with Paul and hard workers in that team. Nice combination, but we have set you a tough challenge tonight, Olivier.
44:17And you were sweating over this. So how many of those players make Olivier's all-time teammates? Half the team. Half the team, but not all. I mean, you could have just gone the whole lot, really, couldn't you, in there? I did want to ask a question on Mbappe, though, because what was he like as a teammate? What was he like to play with? Well, he's one of the best players currently and really, really talented and mature player back in the days in 2018 already. He was maybe 18 or 19 when we won the World Cup. Yeah, crazy, very confident, but not arrogant like people can say when you don't know him.
45:08And most of the players I play with in my teams, they see us French people as a bit arrogant player. I said, no, it's not true. It's just confidence. And Kylian, it's exactly his personality, you know, he's very, he knows where he wants to go. He is a very talented player and obviously back in the days in 2018 when I've seen him doing what he did, I was like, wow. You went with Hugo Lloris, your 2018 World Cup winning teammate. I mean, you could have gone with Courtois. I could. Mike Mignon. But because I share so many years with Hugo and I'm very close to him and because he was my captain and we won the World Cup together, obviously.
46:13he's got the most caps in the national team ever. So, yeah, for all his career, I put to go. Who's the two defenders then? We've got a little bit of a back three going on. Ruben Amaran had an influence on you tonight. Yeah, I played with so many offensive, talented players. I'm really looking forward to seeing these other players in this formation. But there's your back three with Thiago Silva and Rudiger, the Chelsea influence. Yeah, I'll come back to Griezmann as a left wing back afterwards. Obviously, Varane prime was amazing. Madrid, he was with Ramos and Pepe. Same. I remember he played his first Ligue 1 game with Lens against Montpellier and I was in front of him and he was 17.
47:05and I didn't touch the ball of the game. So it was already really good and obviously experience of Thiago Silva at Chelsea with Rudiger who you don't want to play against because he's very, very tough in the duels. So I think it's a good combination of experience, roughness and intelligence. So we've got Kante there, one of the best hold midfield players we've probably ever seen. He can do the job of two men. No, he's alone. He can do it all alone. Exactly, that's what we're saying. Who's in front of him? He's going to have to do a lot of running in this team. Yeah, but he can do it. He'll have to with them too.
47:46We need creativity, like genius in midfield. That's why I put Cazola, one of the best players technically I play with. Left foot, right foot. Mesut Ozil, if he wanted you to score on the day you would score because same, he preferred to assist than score. And so clever and his left foot is crazy. On the wing I put Antoine because I wanted him in a team and he's the one who can sacrifice himself for the team, as I said before. He's a team player, so even at Atletico, you can see him doing crazy recoveries on the side. So I put him there. And Franck, because I remember that he was one of the best players I played with when I joined the national team in 2011.
48:51And he had an amazing career, and I think he deserved that Ballon d 'Or back in the days. He's an amazing player. Come on, have you got left? One missing? It's me, no? It's Eden, obviously. I'm sensing you. Winner is three number 10. I was going to say, I'm sensing you like a certain type of player. Yeah, I had a great time with him. We had an amazing understanding on the pitch. and we were... We've got some footage actually we can show you, Olivier. You talked about it before about how players like Griezmann and like Hazard enjoyed playing with you because you were that option that they could play to and in your words, they knew you would always get the ball back.
49:43Yeah.
49:47He will turn and... Creating space for him. Yeah, yeah. And he knows he will get the ball back in one touch. But this one, the defender maybe can do better. Did you enjoy this aspect of your career? Because in some ways, did it become less about scoring goals and then more about making them for a goal? There is nothing better than scoring goals, don't get me wrong. but I love to participate in the game and to assist my teammates. I'm not a selfish striker. If I understand the solution is to pass instead of trying something hard. And I think I did the same also with Pedro and Willy. Pedro also loved it.
50:31So, yeah, I had a good time there at Chelsea with them. He was brilliant, wasn't he, Hazard? What a player. Yeah. At Arsenal, I received maybe more crosses, you know what I mean? With Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Podolski. I believe that our game style at Chelsea was more central. So maybe we could combine a bit more on the inside of the game. So that's why Pedro and Willian were coming with it and also centrally. I think that's one of the best teams that we've done, Jamie. We ask a lot of guests to do this, Olivier. We have a problem selling tickets for that one. That is for sure. I think it would be Yaya Torres.
51:17Well, it would be about four all, probably. With Yaya's team that he picked when he was here. That was one of the all-time greats. We just want to show you one more graphic while you're with us, Olivier, because that is just extraordinary, is it? With the names that are on there, to be out in front. Can you imagine that as the young boy growing up in France? If you would have told me when I was a kid that I would play for the national team, I could not maybe believe it. Being the top scorer of the French national team is obviously a big honour for me, Even if it's for a few months, as I said, because Kylian will beat all the records.
52:09That's why we got you on now, we thought it was... Yeah, that's right, thank you guys! And as I said, I will spend Christmas in peace. But yeah, I'm really proud of it. Is there a possibility that... You never know what happens, do you? There's another World Cup coming. No. I know you sort of stepped away from it for now, that you could get one final call? No, I received an amazing tribute in March in Stade de France. And I really believe that I did my part with the national team. I felt like blessed and really proud of this night and everything was perfect. So not a big fan of comebacks. But as I said, I won't refuse.
53:00Didier Deschamps has got a massive problem and I have to be one more time involved with the national team, I will be more than happy to help. But I think there are so many young talented players. We can see Mateta, who's scored a few goals already in a few appearances. So I'm really happy for him because he's 28, I think. So there's a new generation and I'm not really for them, you know. They will compete and there is enough talent in the world. Have you seen the Rocky films? Yes. There's always one more comeback. Olivier, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Thank you so much. Absolute gentleman.
53:50Thank you. And a man who's made history in French football. And what a night he's been here to see with us. And there is more football coming your way this week from the Carabao Cup. It's the quarterfinal stage. Cardiff-Chelsea tomorrow night. Two games on Wednesday. Manchester City-Brentford. Newcastle United looking to bounce back from their Derby Day defeat when they take on Fulham. And a week on Tuesday, Arsenal take on Crystal Palace.
54:20One weekend of Premier League football before Christmas and we've got a cracking Saturday night for you. We've got Spurs-Liverpool at five and then two games, both kicking off at eight. Everton up against Arsenal and Leeds against Crystal Palace. A standalone game on Sunday. Aston Villa up against Manchester United and the Monday night football next week. Fulham taking on Nottingham Forest. And a couple of those games are part of the Super Six. A Christmas rollover as well with£750 ,000 to be won. Thanks again to Olivier. Thank you to Jamie Carragher. And we have been treated to a sensational game of football tonight.
55:01Manchester United 4, Bournemouth 4. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Bye for now.
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