Brentford sting West Ham with a 2-0 victory to sink them to 19th in the PL table

25:50I mean, the face goal was absolutely horrendous from a West Ham point of view. So they now go to Leeds on Friday night to take on a newly promoted side who've been playing well. The results haven't quite gone all their way, but that is live on Friday night. And it might actually come a bit of relief, the fact they're playing away from home, because at home it has been nothing short of disastrous. four straight defeats to start a season for the first time in their league history. They are the 10th team in the Premier League to lose the opening four home games of a season. Of the other nine, four have been relegated.

26:33That has to be a major concern now, doesn't it, Jamie? They are scrapping for their Premier League survival here. They are. And I feared for them at the start of the season because I felt that the promoted teams would be more competitive. And I think we almost wanted that. I think most people in football wanted the promoted teams to be more competitive. And that's what's really scaring teams like Nottingham Forest, West Ham, Wolves right now. And West Ham, with that squad of players, no matter who the manager is, we're always going to have a problem because I don't think they can cope physically.

27:05And that wasn't just a great football performance from Brentford in terms of tactically and playing through them at times through Damsgaard. We've seen a lot, especially in the second half. They absolutely bullied them. I mean, he had to go to three at the back. They're getting beat at home and he's bringing defenders on because you can't cope with Brentford. You're not playing Man City. You're not playing Arsenal. It was Brentford and they couldn't cope. Physicality's been a big part of this new Premier League season and it's one of the aspects we're going to be talking about next here on Monday Night Football because tactical trends are pointing in different directions around set pieces and certain teams are starting to flex their muscles at the top.

27:45That's coming next.

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28:29Might be in here, Kilman. Oh, he did cut it out. And Shana moves it on and Thiago is going to go in. There is the breakthrough. for Brentford, much deserved. They have knocked and knocked and knocked and that's how much it means to the Bs. Great celebrations, Thiago in the arms of his adoring manager, Keith Andrews, who now has his first victory away from home as a head coach. Great result tonight for Brentford against West Ham. Here's some other numbers from this weekend. Jean-Philippe Mateta with 11 shots. That's the most by any Crystal Palace player. I never had 11 shots in my career. That's incredible.

29:0911 shots. Did you hit the woodwork three times in your career? Cody Gakpo did it in one game. Coyote, seven chances created tonight for Brentford. That was a weekend high. Virgil van Dijk with 12 clearances. He has now done that three times this season, 12 or more. In the rest of his Liverpool career, he'd done that three times previously, which gives you an idea of the sort of stress he's been defending under this season. Norti Michele, already a hero with Sunderland fans. Lomans with the highest XG prevented and Milos Kerkes was certainly putting the work in down the touchline for Liverpool.

29:47His 34 sprints didn't manage to produce a victory. Another big number from outside the Premier League this weekend came from Bundesliga and it was Harry Kane. Scoring Bayern's first goal of De Clasica, they won the game Bayern. They continue their 100 % start to the season. And that was a goal of special significance for Harry Kane, who seems to break records with every single goal he scores. Look at him. The hang time, isn't it? 400 now club career goals for Harry Kane, England's finest. There he goes, racking him up. 280 for Spurs, 5 for Orient, 9 for Millwall, 2 for Leicester on loan as well.

30:31And 104 in 107 games for Bayern Munich. Mightily impressive. So who of present goalscorers is hitting these kind of numbers that Harry Kane is right now? Players active in Europe's top five leagues. Only Lewandowski has more. That is an extraordinary record as well, isn't it? 552. I wonder how many Mbappe is going to finish on. He's on 342 already. But this season, Harry Kane is only behind Erling Haaland. 22 for Kane 23 for Haaland for club and country and two more for Haaland this weekend he seems like Jamie an unstoppable force right now Erling Haaland he does and I watched this game and Everton did quite well in the game for long periods and Manchester City weren't at the best but here's the difference and when you think of yes it's very early days in the title and there's not many people backing Manchester City in these early weeks.

31:37I don't know, stutter and start, if you like. But he is a big danger, especially to Arsenal, because I think Arsenal would be a lot of people's favourites. If Manchester City are going to win this title and stop, maybe Arsenal winning it, a lot of it will be down to this man. He's absolutely been unstoppable. And as I said a couple of weeks ago, I think he's the greatest goal scorer we've ever seen in English football. How do you set up a team to play against Erling Haaland? You defend Lauren, you pick Craig Dawson. We beat him at Wolves and Dawson had him in his pocket for 90 minutes. What's the key to that though?

32:10Because we saw it the other week with Vandenberg, wasn't it, at Brentford who antagonised him and that didn't seem to go well. No, so Dawson was a box defending specialist so we just decided to defend in our box. Basically, whenever we were higher up the pitch we always kept Dawson with some cover around him but when we got in and around our goal, Dawson, get yourself up against Haaland and I mean, it doesn't work all the time. They also beat us four or five nil in the reverse fixture. But he's tough to stop. He is because he's got so many. If you defend high, he can run in behind. If you get too deep and your hand crosses up, he can head him in.

32:46He's very, very difficult to stop. And if you concentrate on stopping him, Foden or Savino or Doku appears off the side. So they'll be up there. I'm sure they will. I think I agree with Jamie. I was maybe falling asleep on Manchester City a little bit thinking, oh, maybe Liverpool, Arsenal, Liverpool, Arsenal. but Manchester City just quietly going about their business, building some momentum and I still think Arsenal would have seemed to be at this moment but Manchester City quietly going along nicely now. Three straight wins for City, three straight wins for Arsenal as well. They had a slow start to this game, Jamie, but it felt like they almost wore Fulham down with these set pieces.

33:22This is where they're, I think they scored with a seventh of ten corners. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm a Liverpool supporter, I'm watching Arsenal and every time they get a corner, I'm like my head in my hands. You know, I've never seen anything like this before in football, where I think the whole football and world feel every time they get a corner, they're going to score a goal. And if they get, as you said, they score them to seven, normally it probably takes four or five. But they look threatening on every set piece. And it's where the Premier League is going, especially this season. And that's why I said on this show a couple of weeks ago, it feels to me like Arsenal are more equipped, especially than my team, Liverpool, to win the Premier League this season the way it's going.

33:58And defensively, they are just so strong. We're tracking Arsenal this season against some of the best numbers that we've ever seen defensively in the Premier League. And this is not a slight on Arsenal, is it? Or Mikel Arteta. This is a serious superpower. Yeah, I think it should be seen as a compliment because it's not all they do. For me, Mikel, they need to win something for something. Of course they do. But for me, as a coach watching on, the time he's had there, he's built almost a complete machine. the culture and how humble they are, how they work back. They don't carry anybody ever. They're unbelievable at pressing high.

34:36The two centre-backs and the goalkeeper are unbelievable at keeping clean sheets. They're unbelievable at defending set-pieces, unbelievable at attacking set-pieces. If you go there and you try and play them, they can play you off the park. So I think Mikel has took bits of pep. He's watched what else is important to football teams. And he's managed to stay ahead of the game. He's seen set-pieces coming. He's got long throws. He's not like a snob. And, you know, like Pep has dominated football with tactical intelligence and playing fantastic stuff. But this Arsenal team can do everything. They can do everything and maybe go a little bit early and they fall away and everyone will laugh at these comments.

35:09But for me, he's built a real machine there that is going to take some stop in this season. I said a few weeks ago, I won't change my mind on it, if Arsenal are going to win the league, it won't be Jochrez coming in and making the difference. That was the big thing at the start of the season. They need this guy up front to score the goals. I never believed that. they will win the league by the back four, mainly the two centre-backs, the goalkeeper and maybe Declan Rice in front. And when we look at those numbers, obviously Manchester City are on there, Chelsea 2004-05 as well. But that's what it reminds me of.

35:40And I keep always saying this, even last season, I feel like it's a Jose Mourinho type of team. And people feel like, or certainly ask the fans, it's a criticism. It's not. It's not. Jose's team are at the top. And I played against that team a lot. and you very rarely felt you could score a goal in the game. And that's where I'm at with Arsenal now. I very rarely think they can concede a goal. So if it continues like this, and of course, there's so much football to be played and a lot can happen, but three goals conceded from eight games were tracked to 14 across the season, which would even beat that Jose Munoz side.

36:14Just pointing out, though, the second on that list is perhaps a warning from history that Arsenal fans of a certain vintage will certainly be familiar with. that you can concede 17 goals and still not win the title. No, but, yeah, they missed out on that. But when you think of Arsenal in the Premier League, you think of Arsene Wenger. But when you think of the history of Arsenal, George Graham's a massive part of that. And maybe Mikel Arteta's team is probably more aligned with that than maybe an Arsene Wenger type of team. And the George Graham team had a famous back four. I think if Arsenal are going to get the success this season, maybe in years to come as well, I think the back four that they've got now will be talked about along the same lines as Lee Dixon, Steve Bould, Tony Adams and Nigel Winterbarn, the famous back four.

36:59Because I think what we're seeing now defensively from Arsenal is the reason why I think probably in most people's eyes they've got a great chance of winning the league title this season. They won the league in 1991, conceding 18 goals. Yes, that's the team we're talking about. Yeah, there you go. There's a bit of extra fluff for you. And the back four that he's talking about now, when you've got Calafiore. I think a lot of people were thinking maybe Lewis Skelly would continue in that position with Uriah and Timber. Is this a sort of modern trend that maybe Pep Guardiola started with four players who could perhaps play at centre-half across your back four?

37:35Yeah, no, I think size is important. I think you see a lot of teams now and set pieces, long throw-ins, direct play. There's a lot to be said for size. I think the main thing for Arsenal, I think they've fallen short the last few years on a lack of depth. I think they would have won the league two years ago. I think, was it Gabriel or Saliba got injured and they had to replace him with Rob Holding, I think, for the run-in. I think it was Kivio last season as well, at times, or the year before. You know, so I think, and they addressed that this summer and it may bring them some problems with team selection, but you always felt if Saka was out, there was going to be a big drop-off.

38:11If Odegaard was out, there was going to be a big drop-off. If Gabriel or Saliba was out, whereas now you feel like Saka's out, Maduake will come in. Odegaard's out, Eze will play. so they've just seemed to have covered all bases this year and I think they'll be the team to beat I think they'll push everyone very very hard this year Sorry David, it wasn't Pep Guardiola who started off playing four centre backs, it was Gerard Hullier in 2000 Marcus Babbel, Stefan Enchow Sammy, Jamie Carragher at left back There you go, it all comes round doesn't it So let's have a look at some more trends that are coming round When we look at the trends of the Premier League goals per game are actually well dropping so far from the all time average and from recent trends when we've seen spikes but a couple of types of goal are actually trending upwards goals from set pieces on the climb and also in the last couple of seasons we'd say goals from fast breaks have climbed as well what we're seeing here then Gary do you think the set pieces one's interesting to me and I think VAR's played a big part in this because it's so so difficult to defend corners now because you go zonal, people get a run on you if you go my marking this is a classic instance so Bournemouth are very very good at defending corners but they mark and it is very very difficult for me to mark you and stop you going that way so if we get the if we can get it back up who is it who makes the foul it's on Mark Gerhe yeah it's going to be on Mark Gerhe and he doesn't do a lot that you'd get away with that before VAR you'd get there's no way he's seeing that you'd get away with making some contact and getting in the way whereas now it's so hard to stop people getting a run on you without touching them it's such a fine line between letting them go past too easy and them heading it in your goal and just doing a bit too much where you end up giving a foul away because it goes to VAR.

40:15And here you can see, I mean, Gabriel was just so hard to stop. If he gets a run on you and you're in the zone like Sander Berg, you've got no chance of beating him in the air. So it's not that teams are getting better at attacking them and teams are getting worse at defending them. It's not that. It's so, so hard to mark and make contact without feeling at risk of giving a penalty away now with VAR. And then you go zonal and teams just arrive on top of you. Very, very difficult to defend. And yeah, you see some more here. Chelsea one. So, so hard to mark. You even see here, look, contact. If he falls over at that moment, it's still not enough.

40:49Even though you've made contact, still not enough. So very, very difficult to defend. Do you think teams are doing more work on set pieces than we've ever done before? So would you as a manager do more work on set pieces than maybe you did as a player? Definitely. And definitely the next time I get in, Jamie, this will be, we'll do this every day. We'll find time to do this every single day on a training pitch because it's playing such a big part on it and the detail of it and how much you have to do on it. I think more and more teams will go zonal now because of the clampdown on, you know, holding in the box and VAR.

41:20I think more and more teams will lead towards going zonal. But then you go zonal and you see it, you just get overloaded at the back. Do you think, Gary, that in some ways that football is sort of catching up with some American sports? Think of NFL with all the set plays that they have. Yeah, I don't think there's too many secrets now in the game And I think there's very intelligent people. You look at Mikel Arteta with his set-piece coach, now one of the most famous coaches around, and he's only a set-piece coach. Because of how important they are to the game, you see the guy at Aston Villa has had big success.

41:50So a huge, huge part of the game. And this seems to be something that's been added to it again. Can I come in on this? Because it's interesting. I just want to point out very quickly, Brentford Thames and I, they were the first team in this country to introduce a set-piece coach. And probably the first to do this as well. Well, you think the success that he had through the manager now, Keith Andrews, in terms of long throws, we highlighted that before the game. But I'm at a situation with long throws where I understood teams in the bottom half of the table or maybe fighting against doing long throws because they never had the quality to get the entries into the box.

42:23Because obviously you need to get the ball in the box, give yourself a chance to score goals. And I used to actually want to see the long throws from those teams against the top teams and see how Liverpool would cope with it. or a Manchester City who've maybe got ball-playing centre-backs, but can they go and head the ball? And I used to like that dynamic in the game. I am frustrated with the fact that I feel every team this season has taken a long time to some stage. Look at that leap, Jamie. Yeah, you see the change, you see the numbers here, and it's off the scale. And I'm thinking the reasons why.

42:53And the reasons why, because some of the top teams are doing it. So then it almost feels like it's not something to be embarrassed about the way it maybe was in the past. legitimises it a bit for everybody else I think if you've seen the best teams do it I remember Arsenal last season at PSG I think in the Champions League they just absolutely battered them for the first 15-20 minutes with long throws going into the box but I just think when you've got real quality you can get the ball into the box the time it's taken to take throw-ins and I'm just like That shows us that we're not completely alone the Bundesliga are also going it seems down this road Yeah and I think the point you made about other sports David I think football has caught up.

43:34Data is playing a huge part in football now. And obviously I've been out of work as a manager for nine months now, spoke to an awful lot of people, spoke to a lot of set-piece coaches. And the data is so far in favour of throwing it in the opposition box if you can. You are far more likely to score from a long throw-in than you are trying to work something in from the side because they're so hard to clear. There's no pace on the ball. you get an opportunity to get all your big centre-backs up into their penalty area. So, you know, managers are not embarrassed now of, is this going to get me a better chance of scoring a goal?

44:09If the answer is yes, then we're doing it. You know, it's not a style contest. It's what's going to get us the most points and keep me in a job. And at the moment, I mean, you can see how hard they are to defend. If you're really good at them, they're very, very difficult to stop. And the natural consequence is it takes time out the game. This is your frustration that you're talking about, Jamie. I think we can show this now. The time that it takes is set up for throws. So at the top there, you've got the experts, Brentford, 25 seconds every time on average they have a throw. Spurs, it should be saying under Thomas Frank as well, who was with Brentford, of course, last season.

44:44And Sunderland didn't take long throws, as far as I can remember, for five, six years. But now, sign Nardi Mukielli, who does have a long throw and they're making the most of it. What do you read into this then, Jamie? Listen, if I'm Gary and you're going back into football and the data's telling you you've got more chance of scoring a goal than winning games doing it, you're going to do it and I would do it as a manager, as a coach. As a lover of the game and someone who's a neutral, more often than not when games are getting played, I love football, love watching it. It bores me. I'm a bit like his football lad.

45:18I feel like we're getting to the stage, not just with throw-ins, even with kick-offs. It feels like we're getting almost to rugby and we're playing for territory. territory. Can I ask you, Jamie, when you were playing against a Tony Pulis Stokes side and you would be trying to defend those long throw-ins and they were really difficult to defend and I've heard you talking about that, why would your team not replicate that yourselves? Well, maybe they'd have, they'd set their team up for that, so they would have maybe four centre-backs in the back four, all six foot two, six foot three players, the top end of the pitch.

45:49You'd probably have more players maybe trying to get on the ball between the lines, you're going to try and play your football. So I understand teams like that doing it because that's their chance of getting the ball in the box. For me, not just because you're a top team. You said before about not being a snob, and I'm with you on that. But a throw in for me is get the ball quick, let's get playing again. Which is maybe what Wolves are doing. Yeah, yeah. And then the bottom of the league, OK, fair enough. But there's just, I don't know. I just think the game was on a journey with Pep Guardiola, and I think it got so far.

46:19And also with the teams coming up, trying to play football, losing on the edge of the ball in the box. I think a lot of people in football think we've almost had enough of this everyone trying to play pretty football. I was frustrated with every team almost trying to play the same type of football. And I think we've gone back, which is fine, but I almost feel like we've gone too far back in terms of, you know, set plays, long throw-ins, the kick-offs into the corner flag. I mean, Graham Taylor, God rest his soul, was absolutely slaughtered as an England manager 30 years ago for kick and for touch.

46:47Now, but PSG did that last season, and they were the best team in Europe, the best team in the world. So if PSG are doing it, that gives everybody license to do it and they can't be criticised for it. But it just feels like such a throwback to where the game was in terms of direct football, balls in the box, almost Charles Hughes type of stuff. But as you said, it's data-driven, isn't it? Well, I'm interested to see, Gary, how this is going to impact your next move. If we can just change on the graphics there and focus more on you. Hope these are favourable graphics. Well, I'm not sure if they're going to be.

47:23You brought them in.

47:29Yeah, so starting off at Bournemouth. Yeah. And then very successful first season. Well, we should point out that when you took over Bournemouth, it looked a very difficult situation, kept them in the Premier League. Yeah. And then had a really good season with Wolves before it was more of a struggle second time around. But I know you feel that there were circumstances beyond your control there. No, I think I've been given some unbelievable opportunities there as a young coach. Normally you would need to do eight, ten clubs to get to that. Like Keith Andrews. Yeah, whereas I was given a fantastic opportunity.

48:06A difficult one. I think that Bournemouth team was still the last promoted team to stay in the Premier League. It feels like a long time ago, but no one's done it since. staying in the Premier League as a newly promoted side with a first-time manager was a big achievement for me. It was. And then to go to Wolves and we had a better season than 14th, really. We fell away badly at the end with injuries. And then this was tough. But this is the bit that I've learned the most from. This is the bit that will make me better. Because since I've been out of there, I've not stopped working. I spoke to Jamie a bit off air around, I've been off for nine months but I've just been working every day for myself you know I've been watching every game I've been meeting set piece coaches I've been talking about where the game's headed trying to stay up to date with it because it's easy to to look back on these and and enjoy them but these are the bits where you really learn and you get better when you're up against it and and it was really really tough a tough moment for us that that you have to grow from when you have to be one of the biggest lessons then from that season yeah no I think what I would do if I went back into that season now with Wolves, I would show more patience as a coach.

49:13I think I felt that I needed to progress from this. So we played some good stuff at Wolves this season and I felt we needed to now go, okay, we're going to play better stuff. We're going to be more aggressive. We're going to finish higher up the league. But truth was we were selling good players. We were selling very good players. So maybe my ambition to go that way so quickly while the club, you know, just sustaining where we were would have been a very good achievement for us in that season. So So probably needed to show a bit more patience in my progression. You earned a few quid, though. I think you earned about 117 million, if my maths is right, in terms of profit.

49:50Yeah, no, I think the obvious way to judge a manager is how many points they put on the board, obviously, because that's what keeps you in a job. But, you know, you are working for an organisation that are trying to also make a profit if they can. so sort of the the you know and i enjoyed this challenge of people leaving and having to find the next one and having to find a way of how we make up for that you know when when i arrived at wolves i love this guy i i loved him he was going to be such a big part of us and then the next minute he was gone and it was like okay now what do we do there's a young lad maybe in the 21s can he do it or can we use rain at nuri in a different position so you know i i was probably given the opportunity at Wolves because this was happening.

50:33If this wasn't happening, maybe Julian stays in charge and maybe they keep going in the direction they were going in. So we made a good go of that for a little while. And now I'm, as you can see, and you know me very well, I'm more than ready to get back in and show what we can do. It's a bit of a strange question. It might be, Gary, but what I was just thinking of when you were just talking about it there, is it a good thing, do you think or a bad thing that clubs are so impatient with head coaches now? Because on the one side, if you do get back in, you're going to get judged very quickly, but you've got more chance of getting back in because managers and head coaches are getting judged very quickly.

51:11Yeah, no, I think I'd love head coaches to get more time. Do I think it's a realistic request? Probably not. I do think the role of a head coach is maybe not the most important thing at a football club I think the structure is so so important the structure of the football club you know that is Keith Andrews a miles better coach than Nuno probably not but because of where the two clubs are at this moment he definitely looked like that for 90 minutes this evening you know so there's a lot more at play than who's the better coach there's so much more that goes into building a successful team a successful football club how it's run so trying to be involved in something that gives you a real good opportunity is what I'm hoping for on the next one and I've done a lot of work.

51:57How realistic is that Gary in terms of every club is different and you're probably desperate to get in and I probably think that hurts coaches a lot with almost that desperation to get back into the game you end up taking a job maybe where you know that structure's not quite there. Yeah I've tried to be really patient you know I've spoken to some good clubs with good opportunities some that decided it wasn't for me some that I decided It wasn't for me the other way. But trying to be really patient because my journey has gone unbelievably quickly, you know, from retiring at 37 to being Premier League manager at 40 or 41.

52:31And then it went so quick for me for two and a half years that taking this time to go and spend a day with Pep, to meet loads of set-piece coaches, to finding out how Antonio Conte runs a dressing room, all that stuff while I've been out has just given me a moment to slow down, breathe, reassess, and to try and take time. I'm in a rush to get back in because I love it, but I'm not going to go back into a place where there's no chance of succeeding because, as I say, the structure of the club is very, very important. When you say the structure of a club, what is that? We hear that a lot from a lot of coaches throughout the game.

53:05I'm going to go into the right structure. In your head, how would you want a club to work that would benefit you? I think you need recruitment to be well lined up. I think, so if you look at Brighton, you know, they're always working a few windows ahead. It's like, okay, we might be losing Casado here, but we've got our eye on this lad, Baleva. So when Casado goes, Baleva's straight in. You need things going on behind you that allow you to focus on how do I get the best out of this team? Not all the other stuff, you know, like making sure you recruit good people. good people so that your team's humble like Arsenal's or your team works its socks off like Brentford's.

53:46It's so, so important that you have that support around you as a coach to give you an opportunity to be successful because there's only so much you can control stood on that touchline. There's so many managers, it feels like they leave clubs because they don't have that say or control on transfers and recruitment. The way you're talking, it almost feels like you're the opposite of that and you almost want other people to get on with that and you want to focus on the training pitch and the players that are not so much given to you, but are at your disposal. Now, I want to be able to go to a football club and say, this is how we're going to play.

54:18This is what my left back needs to be able to do. But if we need a left back, I definitely haven't got enough time to watch all the left backs in the world and decide who's. So I need my left back to be able to do this. The club go and find a list of three or four, use data, use your eye. And then they come back to me and they go. It was the same. But Bournemouth was excellent, Jamie. top, top club. And before I left, Kerkhez was lined up for a long, long time for need our left back to be able to do this. And then he arrives and he's able to do it. Anton Semenyo, Zabani, like top, top recruitment at that football club.

54:53And the fact that it wasn't me and it was Andoni is like not the point. Andoni's a top coach, but that club is run so, so well on a recruitment. You know, to sell the defenders they've sold this summer and for the ones to come in still be in that position yeah the ones that come in to just look like they're at home in the Premier League takes an awful lot of work first for Mandoni to get them in shape but secondly you know it's so hard to get recruitment right they've made it look very very easy Bournemouth I was just looking at all those badges as you were talking about that subject and I was probably thinking that majority of those clubs in the Premier League now are set up in the way that you're talking about there are still one or two exceptions but the majority are set up I think Nyan and Forest will be interesting because they've recruited a lot and now they've changed coach a few times and it'll be interesting to see how it all gels together.

55:37We could talk about this all night. By the way, how does Antonio Conte run a dressing room? We'll do that off air. We should get him on. He'd be loud. We'll follow the journey, of course, Gary, but we've loved having you with us tonight. You've offered some wonderful insight. Thank you so much for that. Seven Premier League games this coming weekend, starting with West Ham trying to recover at Ellen Road on Friday night. Manchester United looking to make it three wins on the bounce. When they take on Brighton on Saturday night, then on Sunday. Four games kicking off at two o 'clock. Arsenal Palace, Villamane City, Bournemouth Forest, Wolves Burnley.

56:16And at 4.30, Everton taking on Spurs.

56:23Sorry night, this was for West Ham United. Beaten at home again. But what a night for the Brentford. They are heading across the capital, buzzing with delight. Good night from us.

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