Man Utd in thrilling triumph over Chelsea & Fulham comfortable winners over Brentford

22:44But credits to him. Like he kept his head and he kept on going until unfortunately until he had to come off while he kept on doing his thing. Yeah, he's learning from you, Alex. He's certainly a great example. Congratulations on your performance tonight. terrific and a really good victory as well. Thanks for talking to us. Thank you very much. Take care. Well done, Alex. Thank you. Great performance from Alex Iwobi. I love what he says about Josh King there. We may as well start there with, Jamie, with the analysis because it was interesting what he said about the fact that Josh King was brave enough to come and receive it on the edge of his own box.

23:15Under pressure as well. I mean, I've watched Josh play probably since he was eight, nine years of age and he plays, when he plays for England under 17s or 16s, he will tend to play in a number six role. So it's not, it shouldn't really be anything that he's not accustomed to. I think he just makes a mistake. It can happen. You know, Brentford are trying to press, you know, and you can see Josh comes into frame here. He's getting pressed by Jordan Henderson. They roll out and then you can see they're pretty much man for man all over the pitch, Brentford. But Dam's guard number 24 is the player that's obviously the key to it because he's the one that, as we say in the modern terminology, he jumps.

23:49He's with Sander Berg there, you can see. and as that ball then gets played into Josh now, he sees the pitcher, just turn it back just a touch, you know, he has Anderson, Anderson would be the sensible one, but because he is a progressive player, he wants to always look forward, he tries to whip this ball into Tete, number two, but you can see that Damsgaard's left his man, he anticipates it, obviously Josh doesn't get quite the connection that he wants, it falls to Damsgaard, and when this happens, all you do is just hold your breath and think, please don't score, please don't score, but because Dam's guy is that kind of player, he has that quality, he composes himself and finishes it really well.

24:26Gets that one touch, another one, and then bends it into the corner. And then he's got his head in his hands and all you can do is just go brush your shoulders off. You know, and all the players are going to come around as much as they can, but we all make mistakes, Gary. Listen, it's a learning curve for him today, wasn't it? And it's great, actually, what Alex just said, you know, an experienced player, 29, I think he is now, to go over and have them words with him. He's a young boy, he'll make mistakes during his career. But what I was watching, actually, and what I was interested in after that was his reaction.

24:49and I felt like he kept playing to his strengths. He kept trying to get in the spaces, in the pockets, turn, carry the ball. It didn't deflate him in that sense. I'm sure he goes to bed tonight and he's devastated. But also from his point of view, I was happy that Fulham got the result, you know, because it's not that costly now. So he's going to learn from that for sure. Absolute talent. And I thought, yeah, it was great from Alex. Great leadership skills. Yeah, when he said, he said to me, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that is a relief though. That is definitely a relief. If you lose this game 1-0 because of that, it feels so much worse you go back home now you go in the dressing room the lads are having a laugh you've got three points it's almost in the past he's going to be he's going to be we both like we've said before yeah yeah yeah but he's going to be a tremendous talent isn't he he is yeah yeah I just like his like I said how he carries the ball forward how he gets on the ball in tight areas he seems like he's got a lot of confidence that will be a big blow and like I said just learn from that just learn from that you're a young boy you're going to go through these moments in your career yeah and huge potential that is for sure Sounds like it's been a fun week on the Fulham training ground, working on second balls.

25:50That's a right laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's paid off this evening, hasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, go on. Let's have a look. Let's have a look at the equaliser. Oh, the equaliser. Because he talked about the pinball and reacting. Sorry, David. They've been working on the defensive side of things, but it pays off because, as he said, he's sharp there where the ball does drop. He is, and he's just alive. And like, you know, he obviously said he didn't know where exactly he was going to land, but it's important that he's on his toes and he's in and around. He makes a second movement there, which I like.

26:18You know, he showed it at the edge of the box the first time. He's not just stood and watched it. He's made a second movement. You can see it here. He's just on the edge there. He shows there on the edge of the box. Have you stopped at that? Yeah, highlighted. There he goes. Yep. You know, a lot of players can just stay there and watch. He makes a second movement and he gets his rewards. Yeah, he's alive, isn't he? Yeah, he's alive. He's on his toes. And like you said, he hits the target and scores. Foul. Just on Nathan Collins there. You can see that Muniz gets his arm up. I should say, yeah, from the defenders' union, shouldn't I really?

26:49I think I said to you off air, I think it's more of just using a bit of strength and just knocking him off balance as opposed to a full-on push. So for me, no. And Collins will be disappointed with that. Sorry, does that go back to what we talked about with Muniz? He's a bit of a handful in there. He is a handful. His physical causes chaos. Yeah, he's definitely a handful. I think he'll be disappointed, Collins, that he doesn't try and get the first header. But then after that, if you just adjust your feet and clear the ball, But there's plenty of times where the other defenders could clear that.

27:17It was a bit of a pinball after. So from Brentford's point of view, a bad call to concede. But from Alex's point of view, he's alive in the box and he gets his rewards. Yeah, and 1 minute 38, they found themselves in front. Goal of the night, Jamie. Yeah, and the crowd were up. They were buzzing. They started to win a few second balls because they'd been sloppy in the opening 20-odd minutes of the game. They hadn't quite got their normal game. They weren't being that productive. They didn't really pass the ball with a normal enthusiasm and quality they had, but they start to win a few second balls.

27:46And then once that ball gets played out to Alex, Munoz does really well. He takes a couple of touches. I'll just take that back because this is so good. It's one of the best passes we've seen in a long time because, as I say, you've got that area there to just play that ball. Can you dissect that defence? You see Vandenberg and Pinnock is trying to get back in. Harry Wilson's got his arm up. He thinks, yes, can you play that to me? and I asked him the question because we've all had that feeling I remember you scored an over-head kick for Aston Villa once and you probably feel like you can fight the world after that Oh, remind me of that A beautiful one You score plenty of goals but you do you get that amazing rush that you feel like you can do anything after that don't you?

28:23So that confidence just was seeping in through his veins Yeah, full of confidence there and you see Harry from the minute he made his run he knew where he wanted it he's got his hand up put it there, put it there and the way to pass for me is the most important thing because the way to pass allows Harry to take that first time almost feel like He's already got a picture in his mind, Harry, that he wants to play in that corner. He's just waiting for the weight of pass. But he must make that decision very early. Yeah. Because he adjusts his feet, doesn't he, when he sees it? I think if he takes a touch to defend, he has a chance to come across.

28:48They're the small margins, and it's such a good finish. He makes it look so easy. But he's got this ability, you know, with his left foot. But the weight of pass from Alex was super. Yeah, he's got a wonder of a left foot, that boy. Yeah, he has, yeah. He's scored so many good goals, you know. He scored two in this fixture last year, didn't he? Yeah, Brentwood is sick of the sight of him. Oh, absolutely. But you're right, the weight of the pass and it's coming along the ground and the pitches are so pure now. And he can just, as long as he gets that right connection. And what you also do by taking it first time, you give the keeper no chance because he doesn't have a chance to set himself.

29:18And that is why that's such a great finish and a really well worked goal at a really important moment. Great piece of quality. Fabulous goal. A little bit of fortune about the third goal. Not for the first time for Fulham this season, benefiting from an own goal at the same end. In fact, he goes in the same corner as well at the same end. Jamie? This is a real feature. I said it to you, Gary, about Anderson. He can pass the ball beautifully, can't he? We saw him do it for Crystal Palace. He pings it out wide and then they get a one-on-one with Sessegnon and Coyote. And sometimes, I've said a lot about Coyote lately, sometimes you can't beat him at pace.

29:51So the best thing to do is just maybe make a little bit of move, just get half a yard and then you can play that ball in. as when you see because not very often the game now Gary because we see so many players out here normally that want to cut back and then play it how much more difficult is it to defend against when Sessignon plays it and it's coming in that way as a defender yeah it is but I think from here his body shape the defender's body shape allows him now to go to the line and I think it's just that extra yard where he gets that space to cross it in it's a great delivery great ball isn't it it's a great ball yeah what goes wrong here then for Pinnock who looks like he can see it all the way I'm not quite sure, I'll be totally honest.

30:29I think maybe he sees it late just because Collins doesn't get the contact that he wants on it. But again, I'm not quite sure what he's thinking. Whether he's looking to duck out and let it run out the back post, which is a possibility. Other than that, I don't see another reason why he wouldn't just head that away. So it's a strange decision for me, that one. Do you think Collins might just get that flick? That's what it looks like. Yeah, maybe he thinks he's going to get the flick. And like I said, with that there, it looks like he's looking to duck out and maybe it go out the back door. if he's not sure what's around him.

30:57That goal took it away from him as well, didn't it? That made it so difficult after that. Yeah, it really deflated him, yeah, definitely. Disappointed goal to concede, and as Jamie says, that really put the result beyond any doubt. 3-1, it finished. Here's Keith Andrews now. He's talking to Natalie Giedra. Keith, tough loss tonight. Of course, Fulham did a lot of good things, but is it more frustrating because a lot of those mistakes were kind of self-inflicted? Yeah, I think the moments of the game, in terms of the two goals that we conceded just before half-time were very frustrating. We knew tonight was going to be a difficult game.

31:32We knew the types of qualities they would have. And in a local derby, you need to always have that level of aggression and concentration around how you perform. And then you need to manage, I mentioned it before the game, the games within the games, the momentum swings. And you can take the sting out of the atmosphere within the stadium and ultimately try and deal with those scenarios as an individual where it's concentration, aggression, focus, togetherness, all those types of aspects and the timing of the goals really hurt us. Talking about managing these momentums, 98 seconds before their first and second goal.

32:07The first goal looked a bit messy. Do you think the team didn't recover well enough from that goal and then they concede the second? Yeah, possibly. I think it goes back to what I was mentioning around the concentration, managing the game. The second goal comes from a throw-in for them deep in their half where our structure was pretty good in terms of how we set up for it. But then we allow runners to run off us. Basics of the game are a dirty word at times, but I think they're really, really important. Simple things like aggressive duels, tracking runners, nullifying the opposition. Unfortunately, we allow them to get to a position pretty easily from deep in their half into our box where Harry Wilson is able to finish.

32:50So the timing of the goals so close together just before halftime really hurt us. You're listing, analyzing the mistakes from those two goals especially. But do you see a pattern in the goals you've been conceding? Ten goals conceded in five games, eight goals in matches away especially? Not so much a pattern, no. I must be honest. I think when you look at tonight, the types of goals that they scored. Similar to last year when we were here, there were types of goals like that. I think it's more Fulham-related in terms of them. Tour goal in particular, stopping crosses, dealing with crosses, and we can say it's slightly unlucky from an own goal from Ethan, and I suppose the actual final action was.

33:33But you always have to look at the actions before the goals and what leads to it. Something we alluded to all week in terms of the build-up to this game. So, yeah, that was a disappointment. On the offensive side, Do you think there was maybe a little bit of lacking a cutting edge in those final decisions, especially? I think that's fair. Yeah, I think it was disjointed at times. I think we got into good areas and whether it was the belief, the conviction, a little bit of quality at times when we did get into those areas, whether it was the final pass, final shot, decision making at times, just didn't quite create the opportunities that we probably should have.

34:10Thank you, Keith. Thank you. well Gary alluded to it earlier Jamie but was it always going to be a tough start for Brentford this season given the hand that Keith Andrews in his first job as a manager has been dealt in terms of those key personnel that have that have moved on Brian Embermo, Johan Visser, the goalkeeper Mark Flecken plus Christian Norgard yeah yeah it was it's going to always going to be difficult you know and the you know the performance the first one certainly the first one of the season against Nottingham Forest was live on Sky. I watched the game. They were poor. And they had a really good result against Aston Villa.

34:45Fantastic win in the Cup against Bournemouth. I know they changed a lot of players that day. And they could have won at Sunderland. Chelsea, they picked up a good point. That was a really good one last week on Saturday Night Football. Beat Aston Villa. And then today, it feels like a bit of a punch on the nose again. And that's what it's going to be a bit like this season for Brentford. I think it is going to be up and down. They've got to try and find some away form. That was something they struggled with in the first half of last season. but that was due to their fixtures and how difficult they were away.

35:10But the ones they've lost to this year are games that you'd be thinking, we've got to be more competitive. We've got to make sure we get something at Sunderland. Today in a local derby, can we get a point? But the next six games, it doesn't get any easier. It's always going to be difficult. Who knows what's going to happen at West Ham in the coming weeks. Manchester United next week, they've got to make sure they make it really difficult. He's a record at home against them, beating them twice. Yeah, and they bashed them up a couple of times. So that will be a game they'll look at next week and they've got to be good and they've got all the details, the set pieces, and make himself hard to beat, Gary.

35:39Gary, do you think Brentford would be one of those teams, given what's happened, given the big turmoil and the big turnover of players, and a new manager as well, that the promoted clubs would be looking at and saying, this is one that we can target? I think it's a risky time for them at the moment. Yeah, like I said earlier, I think just with the amount of changes, especially the two key players, you know, in Brentford and Mesa, I think there's big onus on Thiago this season. He was injured for a lot of last year. So, you know, they'll be looking for him to hit this season up and running and get some goals for them.

36:11Also, the manager change, you don't always get an immediate reaction with that, obviously. That sometimes takes time to settle tactically, etc. So, yeah, I feel like it's the matter of settling the ship and trying to get a bit of momentum this season for them. Tenth last season, finished above Fulham. Yeah. Do you think the ambitions are different this time? Well, I don't want to undersell Brentford because I think they do a great job. They're so well organised. But when I look at, when you've had that amount of changes, you have to be realistic and I think Burnley, Sunderland, Leeds are more competitive than any of the three teams I've seen come up in a long time they will pick up points they're going to be really difficult to beat so I think that the expectations have to be obviously they have to change and I think as long as Brentford stay in the Premier League and they can build and they've always got great ideas about bringing players in and I'm sure everything is always well managed there but you just have to be careful because of the other sides in and around them I still think they're going to be perfectly fine but Keith Andrews will be well aware they're going to have, this is going to be one of those seasons where they need to make sure they pick up points that'd be more difficult to beat away from home.

37:11Yeah, Manchester United and Manchester City up next for Keith Andrews and Brentford. Up next for us, we're going to bring you more reaction from Craven Cottage. But also we will be reflecting on our earlier game from 5.30. Had a bit of everything this one. We had the two red cards and we had three goals and in the end, we had a much-needed victory for Ruben Amorim. All the reaction coming your way next.

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39:02Feels like Fulham might have turned a solid start into a good one with this victory tonight. That makes it back-to-back home wins. And we did the double over Brentford last season and they have beaten them again in front of their own fans. Let's hear what Marco Silva has to say about it. He is with Natalie Gedra. Marco, how pleased are you not only with the win and the amount of chances you guys created, but also the control you show throughout the game? Very pleased and very proud of the players, really. They deserve all the credits for what they did and the way they did it tonight. Great first half, great one.

39:42Started on the front foot like we did prepare ourselves and we wanted and was, of course, our objective, our goal to do it. And very good moments of football, the way we create in our build-up. The way we did it, we didn't give many chances for them to press as I like they like to do it in a man-on-man situation. Of course, they scored a goal from a mistake from ourselves, but I think we did it really well. Good 20 minutes, we considered a goal, but the reaction was even better. we kept ourselves cool and with the same the same view and taking the same pictures from the game that we needed to play throughout their spine in some moments or out wide with some dynamic that we did create and we were leading the score at half time and the players deserve it of course the third goal gave us that confidence and calmness that we needed and of course until the last minute we did control the game very well we scored the fourth goal was disallowed, but the reality that the players did really well.

40:43Proud of them, proud of the fans. They deserve this type of nights to have a good weekend. Yeah, three goals scored, but the way you guys defended their long throw wins, we were talking about it before the game, and Alex was actually speaking to the studio and saying how much you guys worked throughout the week on those second balls. So how proud are you of the execution? It was close to perfect. I told the players now it was a good challenge. Of course, we can prepare ourselves well, and we did it throughout the week, but the best challenge they are on a match day definitely is where you have the pressure, where the opposition goes with everything, and I don't know how many throw-ins they have or long throw-ins they did inside our box, but probably around 20, between 15 and 20 probably, and the way we challenged it and the way the players, they kept the concentration because it's very important to keep it, to don't lose the players, to go with the runners because normally it's not going to be the first ball in that moment that is going to be, to punish the opposition, it's going to be much more the second action or the second ball and I think we did really well.

41:48We were brave in the first, but we did really well in the second too. And all the defensive set pieces from ourselves, I think we did control it well and I have to congratulate the players because it's a moment that you have to be brave, but you have to keep the organization and at the same time we have to keep the focus. And they did the three things in a very good way. Our offensive set pieces, they were good. We did create a great chance with Roa King as well in the first half. Josh King, he makes the mistake and then he gets the support from his teammates. He gets a standing ovation from the crowd.

42:17How do you make sure an 18-year-old absorbs what he needs to absorb from this mistake but also moves forward? I think he did show it. He did show it after the mistake. and this is what I really like on him and I love on him, that he made a mistake, but straight after he went to receive the ball again and to go and he never lost the confidence, never lost the faith on himself and more than that, what we wanted from him in each moment of the game and showed maturity for a player that is 18 years old. It's not normal to see it, but showed the maturity that I love to see on him and I really love the way the players, they support him straight away.

42:56It's so nice to see. They knew how important moment in the game, but they kept the focus and support a young lad like Josh in that moment. Like they are going to support Rodrigo or they're going to support Joaquin or Calvin, it doesn't matter who is going to make the mistake. We are going to be all on it and we won because we as a team were much better. Well done. Thank you. Josh King has an awful lot of fans in that Fulham dressing room, that is for sure. Does it feel like Fulham are slowly growing into this season, Gary? Yeah, the league table suggests that, doesn't it? It's out of seventh now.

43:31It's been a good start for them. They seem like a very settled club. Settled squad, settled manager, options off the bench. I know they've only brought in a couple of players this summer. But like I said, it just seems settled. So, no, good start for Fulham. Well, you heard the ambition from Alex Iwobi, Jamie, to improve on last season when they finished 11th. They got a record number of Premier League points. But for a while, there was a little bit of a flirtation around Europe. Has that got to be the next target? Yeah, I think so. And there's no reason why it can't happen. You know, they have that quality.

44:03I think Gary's spot on, you know, and Kevin's going to be a great addition, not just to Premier League, but also to Fulham. They've got a lot of exciting players. Munez is always such a handful. I like the way he plays. He's got, you know, he brings people into play. He's got lovely qualities. Yeah. And it feels that they are, they're in a really good place and they're a good side to watch. I'm pleased to see Harry Wilson getting a run as well, because at times he's had to suffer being a sub and coming on and you get that as a bit of a label. But he's more than that. He's a quality player. You can see with that left foot, with goals, assists, he's always looking to be progressive with his passing.

44:34I really like him. But yeah, they're in a really good place. Really good victory tonight for Fulham and a really important victory earlier for Manchester United. This was our 5.30 kickoff and they took on Chelsea at a rainy, stormy Old Trafford. and striking early after Brian Umbermo was brought down by Robert Sanchez. Out of his area, straight red card for denying a possible goal-scoring opportunity. And Manchester United made them pay in that first half. Bruno Fernandes with his 100th Manchester United goal. Philippe Jorgensen replacing Sanchez in goal. Didn't come for that one. Luke Shaw did.

45:13And Casemiro headed home. Casemiro, though, wasn't to see the second half, picked up a second yellow card in first half stoppage time. So then it was 10 apiece and a bit more of a contest going into the second half, which Chelsea edged after Chalabar gave them some hope with 10 minutes to go. But United held on to Ruben Amrim's great relief. And Emma Saunders was there to get the reaction. well Ruben a big sigh of relief I'm sure how good does that victory feel yeah really good now it's time to to create a little bit momentum so I think I think we started the game really well really aggressive and again you I think I cannot remember a very good play from us but we pushed the opponent for how aggressive we were in the second balls, the first balls.

46:11So it was a good thing. An eventful afternoon. How do you sum it up? Very difficult, especially because after three, four minutes with the red card, completely change the game. All the plan and everything is in the bin. You asked your players to be more aggressive, more clinical today. You feel you saw that, You got what you wanted. I felt the urgency, especially in the beginning of the game. Of course, the sent-off helped us. But again, if you remember the first half, we had so many opportunities. Three against one, three against two. We have to be more clinical to finish the game sooner and again.

46:50So with the sent-off of casa, you never know what is going to happen. So we have to take every chance to kill the game. Let's go back to the red card. What was going through your head? Nothing. First of all, it's a situation that we can avoid because we knew that this kind of long ball for Cesc, they tried to flick for Beumo. We knew that. Unfortunately, we considered that moment where, again, after three or four minutes, when you are one player down, it becomes completely defuelled and changes the game. You then decided to make the double substitution, withdrawing both your wingers, adding another defender into the mix.

47:34What was the thinking there? No, they used to attack with five players, so we need to defend in that moment for me we need to defend with five players. We can defend absolutely with four. When we are 11-11, when we are one player down, the idea was to defend with five, so So we decided to change Estevão and Pedro Neto. And then after also we changed goal because he made an effort to play this game because he was not 100 % fit. This morning he had the test and he was OK, but not 100 % fit. Bruno Fernandes with his 100th Manchester United goal. Just how valuable is he to what you want to do with this team?

48:22He has a great spirit, he's our captain and he scored a goal playing as a midfielder. So I'm really happy with that. Pointed, I think maybe from Ruben Amrin, but a really important victory. Could it be, Jamie, the turning point for Ruben Amrin? I think I'd reserve my judgment on that just now. It was a great result, but they played against the Chelsea side for half an hour with 10 men. and they got their noses ahead. They made it difficult for themselves. But let's applaud what they did today. It's a good win, but now you've got to go to Brentford and win. And now you've got to keep me known. What was the best thing about the way they did this today?

49:03It was really difficult to say. And the reason why, because playing with 10 men after five minutes and you're playing against the side, you go 2-0 up, you're in a great position. So did I really learn a lot about Magic United today? No. But will I say that it was a great result and a brilliant performance in terms of what they had to do to get the win? They showed a bit of aggression at the end. They showed some discipline and desire to get the three points. Yes, absolutely fantastic. But you can't say it's a turning point because, as I say, it was quite an unusual game. There were so many things happening, you know, 10 men.

49:32And then I think the Chelsea manager got in his own way, making the substitutions he made. He took off two wingers. He gave them the real ascendancy. And then Cole Palmer got off in. Just little things went in their favour today. But take nothing away. It was a really important three points. Gary, before the match, we asked questions about how Chelsea would cope with this challenge this season under Enzo Maresca of Champions League, followed by Premier League a couple of days later. Do we still have those same questions? I think we still have those same questions, yeah, because ultimately today was obviously a sending off that changed the game totally, you know, so early in that football match.

50:08so yeah I think that's yet to see how they're going to react with that don't get me wrong obviously midweek playing arriving back probably Thursday morning traveling again Friday to go to Manchester but these are the obstacles that are going to have this season and I'm going to have to manage let's hope Cole Palmer's okay and didn't pick up too much of a big injury but these are the tests we're going to have this season I don't think we can judge them off this game you know sending off as a sending off and it changes the game like I said totally so we'll reserve the judgment for that. Okay. Gary, thank you very much.

50:37Jamie, thank you as well. He's not convinced that this is a turning point, but maybe they'll spend the whole week practicing, defending long throws before they head to Brentford next weekend, Manchester United. It's an important victory for them, certainly this evening and for their manager, Ruben Amrim, who must have been feeling the pressure. Certainly feeling the rain today at Old Trafford. Great victory for them. And in the West London derby, an important victory for Fulham as well. And don't forget, tomorrow, a really exciting Super Sunday is coming your way, headlined by Arsenal and Manchester City.

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