One on One | Moyes on new eras at Everton, Grealish and ​why you never stop learning in football! 

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0:30Hello, I'm Jo Tomlinson. And I'm Juliet Farrington. It's time for another one-on-one podcast where one of us sits down for an open and honest chinwag with some of the biggest names in the Premier League. And thanks to everyone who's listened to Pep Guardiola on last week's episode. If you haven't heard him, then go back, give it a listen. And if you don't already, then please do give us a follow wherever you get your podcasts from. And whilst you're there, also give us a rating and review as it helps other people find us. and Joe and I just like to see what you think about us, don't we, Joe? Yeah, just make sure it's a five-star.

1:02I don't want to see any of these two-star, three-star rubbish reviews. Let's get them up five stars, please, because again this week, Jules, you're up. It's another big one. You've been to see David Moyes. Yeah, and it's a really busy time for the Everton boss. He's busy because we're in a transfer window at the time of recording and he still wants to strengthen and bring in more players. It was also a few days before the first game at the new stadium and so he was really keen to get a positive outcome on that front as well, which we all know he did. So it was a good start and our paths, David Moyes and my paths have crossed many times over the years because I was always at the training ground first time around at his weekly press conferences and regularly at games at Goodison Park reporting in my radioing days and from talking to him and getting to speak to him now, you kind of get the feeling that there's a real renewed sense of optimism around the club, the new stadium of course, which looked absolutely fabulous in its opening fixture on Sky Sports on Sunday.

1:59But new signings too. We've seen the likes of Jack Grealish and Tyler Dibbling as well, expected to play a big part in Everton's campaign. And with Jack, you'll hear what David Moyes has also made of working with the England midfielder. He also gives his honest assessment of what it's like to be a manager in the Premier League, especially how stressful transfer windows can be. And it really doesn't get any easier. and despite being in his 60s, he says you never stop learning in this game. He came back to Everton at the start of this year with a big job to do in terms of where they finished last season and that's where we started our conversation in May, which also marked the end of an era with the grand old lady, Goodison Park.

2:49Enjoy and jive on the final day. His two goals, the last two goals at Goodison Park in the Premier League in men's senior football. David, thank you very much for joining us. I know it's a busy time in the transfer window and there's still quite a little bit to go. Have you managed to accomplish what you wanted to do when the full-time whistle was blown at the end of last season? Yes. Can you tell us what it was? Staying in the Premier League was a big thing. Let's be fair, we probably accomplished that quite early on. the players done a brilliant job and picked up so many good wins at the end of last season from sort of January onwards so yeah we accomplished what we wanted

3:47You're only third behind Sir Alex and Arsene Wenger in terms of top flight level matches that you've been in charge of. Do you recognise yourself now from when you first started? Well, certainly a lot greyer than I was when I came in here with a big ginger wig, I think, at the time. But overall, I think you have to evolve and change with it. Somebody said to me the other day that they thought I had 21 years in the Premier League, and I said, there's no way I could have 21 years in the Premier League. I don't know if it's even right. It can't be 21, surely not. It's gone so quickly. Whatever it is, I don't feel old with it.

4:28In fact, I think the game keeps you young. Really fortunate that we work with a lot of young men and you have to keep up with the new things going on. And I think it helps you. So have you changed more as a manager, as a coach or has the game changed more in that time? Well, I think I've probably changed as well because you evolve from being probably someone who was very demanding and excitable probably as a younger manager and desperate to do well. Because if you don't do well as a young manager, then you probably don't get a second chance at it or a chance to continue what you're doing. But I think now I'm much more experienced and not quite as bad as I used to be.

5:11but still want to be heavily involved still want to be involved in the training still want to be on the touchline with the players so I'm enjoying it I've really enjoyed it since I've come back to Everton it's been brilliant and there's a lot of really good things happening at Everton at the moment A noise so loud that even the liver birds that watch over this city may just have turned their heads this way the tremors felt I know you've got your new stadium for one, for starters. Has that relit the fire? Has that given you more energy than you had? Because when I spoke to you the first time you came back to Everton, you were talking about having those first day nerves and everything else because you were coming back to something that you knew so much about.

5:59I think more importantly, it's given Evertonians a huge lift. So me being the manager coming back, knowing that there's a new stadium, I think the supporters have been really excited about it. knowing that Goodison was coming to an end, which, let's be fair, probably for a long time, all we're hoping and we're expecting that. And it just happens that I've fallen back into the job round the time of the new stadium. So, look, we're really excited by it. It's a great period for Everton supporters and hopefully the future Evertonians as well that are going to be at the new stadium for another 100 years or so.

6:35So we should all look forward to it. It's Jack Reely and it's in the third post! In the minute, Dye! History made, Edmonton's first goal at their new iconic Waterfront home! I'm really privileged and I never thought for a minute it would be me who was doing it. No, I'd finished at West Ham and I wasn't really expecting to go back into work too quickly. But this opportunity was too good and I'm glad I did take it because it's been a brilliant choice. It's a great club and I'm really honoured that I'm getting the chance to take us into the new stadium. We joked before we started the interview about why you put yourself through it.

7:16We are in a transfer window, which is going to come to an end. But how testing, just from a broader point of view, how testing are transfer windows now? How difficult are they to navigate and to go down that pathway to bring new players in? I'm not trying to It's a really good question I don't know what other managers would do I would say at the moment it comes close to being one of the most stressful times for a manager because you're trying to bring in new players, you want to improve your side if you can maybe there's players who want to go you might not want them to leave there's so many different situations going on and obviously you media are always chasing for something regarding what's the news who are you signing etc etc and it's just it feels like a constant time I think we'll all be glad I think it's the 1st of September it closes this year I think we'll all be glad when it gets to the point where it's shut off because we can get on with the job we can look at the football deal with the players we've got at the moment we're all out there sort of chasing around trying to find some new players or trying to find homes for some of our own players I don't think it's a dead easy time now for managers the only bit I would say about that is most of the clubs have other people who are helpful and do a lot of the work in those areas as well.

8:41How much work do you do though in it? I do a lot of work in it. It's always been what I've done. I've always been involved. I think if the head coach or the manager, whatever you want to call him, doesn't have the final say or isn't the one who's saying, yes, I would like that player, I think it can make it very difficult. I always believe that the manager has to do that. So quite often then the manager at this time of the year finds himself busy on other things, sort of maybe making decisions on what players you're bringing. Can I ask you one more question on it? How do you keep a lid on it though?

9:14Does it affect your mood if you're not maybe getting what you want or when you do get what you want, it sort of puts a spring in your step? Yeah. Do you allow it to? I think there'll be players who you're excited about bringing, people who you're saying, oh no, I'm really looking forward to having them and it's what we need, it's something which I really want. But there'll be other ones where you know where you just go about the job and you have to bring in players because you need them as well. But I think you're always looking forward to new players, new adventures for them as well and hoping that they can make your team better.

9:50The big story this morning is that Everton have agreed a loan deal to sign Jack Grealish from Manchester City. The one person who a lot of people are talking about, Jack Grealish, how good has he been since he came to Everton? Well, I can only tell you what I've seen and what I've found of him at the moment. And look, everybody who speaks about him loves Jack. Everybody at the football clubs, I spoke to people at Aston Villa, I spoke to people at Man City and they all speak so highly of Jack as a boy and what he does and his time for everybody and then the football part comes into it as well so I spoke to a lot of people who know him, people who played with him watched him a lot myself so I've been really impressed by him generally his training's been good he's wanting to get back to peak levels again we hope we can get him close to that if we can and I'm hoping that he can show some of those signs which he's done over many many years for Man City and for us and Villa for for Everton here as well he's got that infectious character hasn't he he's a really really good lad and you know I think everybody likes him but more importantly we want him to be a serious football player who's determined and he's he's trying to build himself back up he's hopefully going to go with England to the World Cup in the summer and he knows that his performances and his goals and assists will we'll all play a big part in that that was david moyes on jack greelish and my goodness anyone who saw everton's winning at brighton on sunday will know just how good jack greelish was a player at a match performance and he himself is clearly buzzing to play for david moyes here he is talking to everton's in-house media about joining the club yeah no that was one of the reasons probably the main reason you know why i wanted to come here after speaking to him and i even said you to my agent and stuff.

11:43I says, from now, I don't want to go anywhere else. I says, if we can get this deal done, then I want to go and play for Everton. I have to speak into the manager. Like I said before, I've always known how big this club is and especially playing at Goodison Park over the years. It's been so tough. The fans here are incredible. It's such a difficult place to come and play. So I'm happy and finally ready to be on their side. More to come from the Everton boss including why in his 60s he's still as passionate as ever about the game I mean I love football I love watching football I love going to football and I'm really fortunate that I've been long enough in the game to manage a few games Back with 101 very soon

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13:24welcome back to one on one and our exclusive chat with the Everton manager David Moyes and Jules in this part of the interview he opens up about the pressures Premier League bosses are increasingly being put under yeah as one of the elder statesmen I think we can call him that in the Premier League David Moyes has been there he's done it all so he can talk with some authority about how the job has changed over the years but as we talked about when David Moyes left West Ham in May of last year before he returned to Everton, he spent quite a little bit of time studying different aspects of the game.

13:53And although he's now in his 60s, there are still a few more things he wants to experience and achieve on his bucket list. The news that West Ham have confirmed that David Moyes will leave them at the end of this season when his contract expires by mutual consent. When you had that time out, all the different times that you had out in between jobs, you were going to a lot of conferences, talking to UEFA you were busy but did you evolve from what you were learning from those conferences as well and from what you were saying? Well I generally think in football you have to keep trying to evolve in what you're doing and listen to other people so I was very fortunate at UEFA gave me some work going to watch all the Champions League games and it was great to go and see the best teams and the best players and try to watch what they were doing some great managers had a chance to be in contact with as well So all those things I think you have to build up.

14:47I think when you're out of work, I think you have to work just as hard when you're out of work to get back in work. You know, you have to try and be out, try and watch some training if you can, go to some other clubs, you know, watch other. I mean, one of my plans was to go to South America and watch a lot of the football in South America. Unfortunately, I got back, not unfortunately, but fortunately, I got back in this job too soon or I would have probably tried to take in quite a few games in South America to try and see the different cultures and the different styles. So I think you've got to try and keep learning and I was fortunate that UEFA and some of the other people allowed me to join in with them.

15:27Is that still on the bucket list? It's still on the bucket list but in the summer I went to see quite a few of the South American teams playing the Cobb World Cup and look, the teams were very good. I was pleased. It was great to see them play but I think the biggest surprise was how good the support was, the noise of the support. Boca Juniors, the support, they were incredible, really well, the support they had. And that was the bit for me, you know, which we always talk about having the best league, the best supporters. Well, you know, sometimes you have to see what other people have gotten and the South Americans have certainly got the support, that's for sure.

16:06I was talking to Pep Guardiola in one of the previous episodes and he was saying how much he actually enjoyed the Club World Cup when there was so much talk about it before it started, not really knowing what was going to happen. But he looks re-energised from having his team competing in that and then the short summer break coming into the Premier League. But we've seen how coaches do struggle, how managers do struggle when things aren't going their way. And if it can happen to the very best, it can happen to everybody, can't it? Well, look, there's very few managers get success in their career.

16:40It's very hard. You know, there's certain few who get the opportunity to be regular winners and serial winners, if you want to call it that. But there's a lot of managers who go into it and have to work and fight with it every week. You know, I look at how many managers lose games every weekend and how they're all feeling. You know, they're all generally wanting to win, try to do their best, trying to play their best teams to get results. And a lot of that goes under the table. People don't see that. So we all really care about our job. We want to win. but it's just impossible that we can all do that every week.

17:13And especially in those post-match environments that you're so used to, I can't imagine what your headspace is like when you are in there and I'm not looking for any negativity, I'm just trying because sometimes we don't recognise that person in front of us. Yeah, well look, it's part of the job and when you're fortunate enough to become a manager, especially one in the Premier League, I think that that comes with the job, you have to be able to do it, you have to do your interviews, you have to do it after the game. I think we all understand that. But quite often, as I said before, not every manager wins and it's really difficult.

17:49And quite often the questions can be challenging. We're disappointed. We'll probably just come off the pitch maybe 20 minutes. We have to be doing an interview. So lots of things make it pretty difficult. But look, I've had quite a few of them now. There's a lot of those interviews I regret and maybe regret maybe the way I spoke or maybe the way I spoke about a referee or generally. But that is the job and that's the emotion and maybe that's what the cameras are trying to catch. But that's why you still do it, because you love the job so much. Yeah, I know. It comes with the territory. I mean, I love football.

18:26I love watching football. I love going to football. And I'm really fortunate that I've been long enough in the game to manage a few games. Well, David, good luck for this season and thank you. Thanks very much. Thank you. love that Jules yeah I love football I love watching football I've got into football clearly I mean yeah he enjoys football doesn't he but he must do I mean he's put himself through it for so long now it's unbelievable how long he's been in the game it is he's not far off Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger as well in terms of longevity in the Premier League 21 years give or take we reckon it is March 2002 he took over from Walter Smith at Everton he says the game keeps him young He's always looking to learn.

19:05And despite everything that happened at West Ham and before that at Manchester United, and don't forget that he worked abroad as well too, you get the feeling that coming back to Everton was just the right fit at the right time, despite what he said about the stresses of the transfer window. He just can't give it up. But what a time to be in charge of Everton right now. What with that new stadium at Bramley Moor Dock. It was such a celebration in that opening game against Brighton on the banks of the River Mersey. the sun was shining winning was all that mattered and it kicked off a new chapter in the club's long running story So that's it for this week's 101 we'll of course be back next week with another very special interview Yes because as the Premier League goes on its international break so early and the WSL returns we get to know its first million pound player Canada's Olivia Smith became the most expensive signing in WSL when she moved from Liverpool to Arsenal over the summer.

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