In short
Monday Night Football at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium ends Spurs 1-1 Leeds, another dramatic twist in the relegation battle. Spurs lead via Matisse Tell’s finish, then concede a penalty after Tel’s goal and Dominic Calvert-Lewin scores to equalize. Spurs’ survival hopes hinge on results: they move two points clear of West Ham with superior goal difference, with Spurs next at Chelsea and West Ham at Newcastle.
Guests (podcast panel)
Bill (host/lead), Jermaine Jenas, Jamie Carragher, and Jermaine discusses psychology/individual moments; Jamie focuses on key incidents and goalkeeping.
Key claims
Spurs “in the box seat” but would be disappointed not to win; Kinski’s save from Sean Longstaff is “save of the season” level; Tell’s overhead-kick clearance and penalty incident show both recklessness and impact; Madison’s late return (after 1 year out) could be decisive.
Notable examples
Longstaff’s reflex save off the bar; Calvert-Lewin’s confident high-side penalty; Madison’s penalty appeal; Spurs’ 16 shots/14 corners; 13 minutes added time.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMatch Summary: Spurs vs Leeds
0:46 to 1:40
Overview of the match's key moments and final score.
“So they've got to look at it in that frame.”
Impact of the Result on Spurs' Season
1:41 to 2:26
Discussion on how the draw affects Spurs and their standings.
“It is a season that keeps on giving, isn't it, in terms of these talking points.”
Reflections on Spurs' Performance
2:27 to 2:54
Analyze Spurs' performance and their strategic decisions during the match.
“You think of that save from the Tottenham goalkeeper from Longstaff onto the bar.”
The Significance of Goalkeeper Saves
2:55 to 3:40
Highlighting key saves from the Spurs goalkeeper and their importance.
“The two saves that lad made, one in the first half, one in the second half, has made sure his team have got who knows what could be a vital point.”
James Madison's Return and Impact
3:41 to 4:48
Discussion about James Madison's emotional return and its implications.
“Jermaine, how will James Madison be feeling right now?”
West Ham's Upcoming Challenges
4:49 to 5:55
Examination of West Ham's upcoming matches and their potential outcomes.
“I said before the game, listen, that's a tough game, but it's easier than that.”
Analyzing Key Decisions and Penalties
5:56 to 7:17
Debating controversial decisions and penalties affecting the match.
“If they lose that game, it's just pure, they can relax Tottenham.”
Matisse Tell's Performance Review
7:18 to 8:06
Discussion on Matisse Tell's performance and key moments in the match.
“The good in the first and the bad in the second, conceding the penalty which brought Leeds back into the game.”
The Emotional Journey of the Goalkeeper
8:07 to 9:13
Exploring the goalkeeper's redemption story after a challenging season.
“tells a story of its own, doesn't it, Jermaine?”
Emotional Rollercoaster of Spurs' Season
14:01 to 15:00
Exploring the ups and downs of Tottenham's current season and key player performances.
“It's an absolute rollercoaster and it'll never change.”
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The Impact of James Madison
15:01 to 17:17
Discussion on James Madison's return and his influence on the game against Leeds.
“Maiti, you've got a penalty here, Jermaine.”
Post-Match Analysis with Daniel Farker
17:17 to 21:00
Daniel Farker discusses the match dynamics, his team's resilience, and player performances.
“This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast.”
Leeds' Character and Motivation
21:01 to 22:28
Analyzing Leeds' performance and team mentality despite securing safety in the league.
“Yes, it feels when we are chasing the game, maximum is given as always four or five minutes.”
Reflections on Leeds' Strategy
22:29 to 24:19
Discussion on Leeds' tactical changes and the effectiveness of their approach this season.
“so I was not 1 % concerned before the game.”
Spurs' Draw and Future Outlook
24:20 to 28:03
Roberto Di Serbi reflects on Spurs' performance and the challenges ahead in the relegation fight.
“I think the first show we did this season and some of the football, they play is fantastic.”
Managing Emotions in Crucial Matches
28:03 to 29:26
Learn how the pressure of relegation affects team dynamics and individual players.
“What do you feel you can do to manage emotions better, especially in those final two games?”
Referee and Match Decisions
29:26 to 31:29
Discussion on the impact of refereeing decisions on match outcomes and player performance.
“What kind of conversation do you have with him after tonight because he scored the goal but then again a bit reckless in the penalty?”
Positivity Amidst Relegation Fears
31:29 to 32:46
Strategies to maintain positivity within the team during a relegation battle.
“There's been a lot of positivity in the past couple of games especially and you've been very confident since you arrived So how do you make sure you keep that positivity in the dressing room with the players?”
Upcoming Matches and Player Nerves
32:46 to 35:53
Exploration of upcoming fixtures and the psychological pressure on players.
“We talked before the match, Jermaine, about his psychological powers.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:06This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. Thanks for joining us. Monday night football came from Tottenham this week as Spurs took on Leeds. Here's how things sounded when the full-time whistle blew.
0:24It's a point apiece It's an opportunity missed by Roberto de Zerbi and Spurs Who took the lead here in sensational style through Mati's tail But then after Tel gave away a penalty kick And Leeds converted it And he saw that four point gap go back to just two by the time they next take to the field at Stamford Bridge in eight days time they could have been leapfrogged by West Ham but when Matty's tail blasted in they were almost away from them with that four point gap it was a game that ebbed and flowed there were plenty of nerves in the air but in the end Spurs Allen have to settle for a point they did and of course they'll be gutted about that having got a goal ahead but at the end of the day they've gained a point on West Ham when the Hammers lost to Arsenal.
1:17So they've got to look at it in that frame. They've got to look at it in a positive way. Still all to play for, but Spurs in the box seat. James Madison still protesting that that late penalty shout went against him. One of many things for Dave and Jamie and Jermaine to discuss. But it's finished here at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Spurs 1, Leeds 1. Bill, thank you. It is a season that keeps on giving, isn't it, in terms of these talking points. And that point moves them two points clear of West Ham United. Their goal difference superior by 11. Spurs now head to Chelsea in eight days' time.
1:57West Ham go to Newcastle on Sunday. So do you see that, Jermaine, as a good point for Spurs in the circumstances? I think they'd be disappointed they didn't get all three. Saying that, you know, if you can't win, make sure you don't lose. but yeah I think second half Leeds look good but I think they'll look at it I think they'll be disappointed for sure massive game but saying that's still in control now it's two points Do you agree Jamie? Will it feel like in the cold light of day two points have slipped with their fingers? Yes because it was a real opportunity with what happened with West Ham to almost put this whole season to bed if they had three points tonight but I felt it would be a tough game Leeds are playing really well at their own Tottenham struggle at home and I think that point will feel a lot better in the morning when they reflect on the game.
2:44You think of that save from the Tottenham goalkeeper from Longstaff onto the bar. I mean, that is one of the saves of the season. So it could have been a lot worse. Unbelievable from Kinski. The two saves that lad made, one in the first half, one in the second half, has made sure his team have got who knows what could be a vital point. Jermaine, when this ball leaves Sean Longstaff's left boot, everybody is thinking goal. I closed my eyes. To have that sort of reflexes so close, I mean that's world class that. That's unbelievable. So when you first saw it, you didn't think that was any touch but then when you see it from that angle to have those sort of reflexes and react that quick.
3:24The reaction time is just extraordinary isn't it? Unbelievable. I mean Sean Longstaff can't believe that he's actually kept it out. You can sort of see him saying how did that not go in? Yeah, that's one of the best saves I've seen all season for sure The only save I can remember that sort of just felt wow was Pickford, Jordan Pickford at Newcastle and you think wow that's going to be save of the season that is certainly up there right on it And you think Jamie where he came from in Madrid that game And you know what probably people who listen to me on this show I'm not the biggest fan of Vacario as a goalkeeper that lad, the saves he's made he's got a presence about him that is, for me, is better and looks more confident than Vicario.
4:08Jermaine, how will James Madison be feeling right now? A year and 10 days, and he's back on the pitch. And almost a big moment. He thought he won a penalty. Yeah, he looks emotional there, to be honest. I think when you've had that long period out as a footballer, to get back on the pitch, you know, you can't replicate the game. You can do as much training as you want. But to be back out there and try and help your team win, he'll be delighted to be back. He does look emotional, as you say, and he could still have an impact on this fight for survival, James Madison with these two games to go he's got probably a few more minutes than he expected to tonight he came on with 10 left and then was the 13 of stoppage time as well so this is how it stands Spurs up to 38 points that would have seen you safe in the last 15 years there's still a big question over this season because West Ham can still get to 42 with the two games they've got left and again that goal difference could be really significant 11 the difference in Spurs favour but West Ham United in action next at Newcastle on Sunday 5.30 kickoff Jermaine do you think they can get something there I think they can I think Newcastle not the team that we that they normally are at home that we've seen in previous seasons um it's been up and down I think it's it's not even about um performances now is it just win you just got to win um I think they could get something there well then the question Jamie is is can Spurs get something at Chelsea?
5:28I said before the game, listen, that's a tough game, but it's easier than that. Now, who knows how the cup final goes for Chelsea, if that could have an impact as well, but I could just imagine the atmosphere in that stadium, those Chelsea supporters. It's a rivalry, it's football. They'll be desperate to send Tottenham down, or certainly put them in a really difficult position going into that last game. And it's just, listen, whether that helps them or not, we only know on the back of the Newcastle game for West Ham, where they're playing a couple of days earlier. If they lose that game, it's just pure, they can relax Tottenham.
6:01But imagine West Ham winning that one. And then going there to one of your biggest rivals. They have a chance to make themselves safe at Stamford Bridge and they will have nothing more than that. All those games and every single remaining Premier League game is live on Sky Sports. We're going to bring you every dramatic twist and turn before this season is out.
6:31The last by Beal, Tell! Tell lights the touch paper, Tottenham strike first and what a mighty blow that is at the bottom of the Premier League table
6:50and Padua came on to it, he was caught there, Jared Gillett had a good look at it penalty kick awarded it. This tale takes another twist.
7:02Calver-Lewin gave that everything. Another mighty swing in the relegation picture.
7:12Spurs have to settle for a point. Maybe they're actually glad to get a point in the end, but it was very much a tell of two halves. The good in the first and the bad in the second, conceding the penalty which brought Leeds back into the game. 16 shots from Spurs, 10 of those in the first half, to Leeds United's 11, who certainly played their part in this contest. 14 corners from Spurs on the night, including the one which led to Tell's opening goal. That's more than they've had in any game for the last three years.
7:48so they are left to reflect on the fact that well two points dropped or a point gained the big save of course which at least gave them a point and it keeps them two points clear of West Ham United with that superior goal difference which will be effectively an extra point but would you believe that is the first time this season that they've gone unbeaten in consecutive home games which tells a story of its own, doesn't it, Jermaine? Yeah, we spoke before about the manager coming in, making an impact, making the team harder to play against. Obviously, they're always going to have long periods with the ball because obviously the manager wants to dominate possession.
8:25That's what you do about the ball as well. The other side of it is so important. We've spoken before about individual moments. Who's going to come up with that special X factor for Spurs when they really needed it tonight? They got it from Matisse Tell. He was very much the man of the moment this evening. Yeah, we said it in the first half. He looked like the bright spark in the game. And the first touch is sort of underneath his feet. So would you say it's a good touch? Well, it's an unbelievable finish. But to do that and generate that sort of power with not much back lift. Because if he touches it further, does he not get challenged?
8:55I think you'd rather want to get the first touch right, yeah. Because obviously he was getting pressed on that. But to get your shot off that quick, obviously there's bodies in the way. But to get that dip, it's an unbelievable finish. But he looks sharp all game. he did and full of confidence and that's his first goal from outside the area he tried one of two things he tried a an interesting cross in front of his own box in the first half and then this is perhaps a player who's feeling full of confidence Jamie yeah listen that's just a crazy decision now what you think sometimes is okay we've been there as players where you don't see the opposition player coming in but we've got an angle now where he's about to make his decision and he sees him.
9:40So just keep an eye on his right side. He looks now. So, OK, he's made his decision going to overhead kick it. As soon as he knows there's somebody on his right side, that decision had to change. Now, he still has time. He looks. He's still moving his feet to get into a position to overhead kick it away. He's got to change his decision. I was given not so much the benefit of the doubt initially, but I thought, OK, he hasn't seen him. He has seen him. He knows he's coming. And he still sticks with the overhead kick. a really really poor decision for Jared Gillette was whether there had been contact and I think that's all the evidence that you need he's got stud marks across his face hasn't he clearly was contact try and give us the striker's perspective the attacker's perspective of defending like that in your own box you just can't do it that's when you need calm head but the fact that he has a lot there and he sees sees him and to still do it I think you've just got to head that away you know you've just got to clear your lines because once you do over Heckel you're out of control.
10:38Even when you're in opposition's box and you do it, you never know where the ball's going to go. You try and make contact with that, but you're out of control. You just can't do that. We're talking about a young attacking player who has made two ridiculous decisions in this game. You mentioned him on the first half where he crosses his own box and he does that. And De Zerbe will be furious, but he's got to remember he's a young attacking player who has actually made a massive difference to Spurs right now. He came off the bench at Wolves. He got the corner, got the winning goal. He set up a goal at Aston Villa, the second goal.
11:15He scored a goal tonight and that's the conundrum managers have. You know someone's going to... He needs him. He needs him. He can't lose him. He needs him because they haven't got players with the injuries. But there's no doubt there's a player there. There is something there and he's seen it in the last couple of games. And this isn't tonight. Listen, he won't forget tonight. But this is the one across his own box. And you can imagine Dezebi and the coaching staff. I'm trying to imagine you in that situation. But even the supporters. You would have said to him if he was a teammate, he would have gone mad.
11:43You'd be going nuts. But then the good at the other end, certainly since he's come back into the team, since he came on at Wolves, and even at half-time, everything we showed that was good from Spurs was from him. And then in the second half, he goes and gets that goal. So that's the art of probably management, and Dezebi knows it a lot better than me, obviously. But he's probably got to still treat him with clubs in a certain setting and say he's given us so much going wrong we might have to put up with these little bits of buzz but that and overhead kicking your own box like that when you know the player is there that's something you can't accept Talk me through the penalty Jermaine because I can't remember seeing someone look so confident as Dominic Calvert-Lewin did here Yeah I mean again you know he's had a season where you know he's not had many injuries so he's been able to get rhythm Isn't Harry Kane like?
12:33Yeah The technique here. Yeah, no one, you're not saving that. If you can hit anything high in the side netting, it's a great penalty. And he looked as a threat tonight. You know, he was strong and he made it difficult for the Spurs defenders. And yeah, it was a really good penalty. 13 minutes of added time, of course, and we didn't know which way the game could then go. Could Leeds go and steal a winner to further delight West Ham fans? Or could there be a goal at the other end? Well, actually, it was Leeds. and as Jermaine said before, just an unbelievable reaction time, Jamie. Listen, I mean, that is...
13:09It must be the greatest save he's probably made in his career. I keep going back to maybe the Pickford one at Newcastle. It's the only save I can remember. Maybe there's a couple from Raya this season. He's been outstanding. But to get your arm off that quick. I mean, Longstaff couldn't believe it. Wow. It's the redemption story, isn't it, Jermaine? From where he was before. that humiliation in Madrid everyone questioning him for his what was it 14 minutes yeah it was a hard watch it was hard to see it you know you don't wish that on any young player but to show that sort of resilience and like thick skin to come back and you know for a moment like this like a big moment in a game of this magnitude to pull off a save like that it's probably you can't teach that but it makes us saving the first half look like a walk in the park you know it's saving the first half without standards but doesn't that tell you what football is.
13:59We know we've experienced it. It's an absolute rollercoaster and it'll never change. There's ups and downs in a career. I knew they'd have ever thought that he would probably ever play for Tottenham again on the back of what happened at Atletico Madrid. You said, Jamie, always claws it back from behind him. Unbelievable save. This is a great angle, this. It's almost behind him and he gets down. Brilliant. And I think you'd have to be, have a heart of stone if you didn't feel sort of delighted for this young lad after what he went through. are we looking at the next Spurs number one? oh yeah for sure for sure I think and like I said for a young player to go through what he's gone through and to come back on the other side and two massive saves like that in such a big game the signs are there I can imagine he's a good trainer a good professional but delighted for him everybody thought his Spurs career was over a couple of months over that save from Longstaff at the end of the season we'll know but that could be the save that keeps them in the Premier League Yeah, huge moment in his career and maybe Spurs season as well.
15:00There was still time for another twist late on because James Madison comes on the pitch. First action for over a year. Maiti, you've got a penalty here, Jermaine. What did you think when you saw this? Well, Kaira started screaming and then this.
15:14Yeah, when I first saw it, I thought it was a penalty. But yeah, I think he obviously gets a little touch. The defenders, I spoke to Kaira before about, you've got to be so careful when you're lunging. Your footwork's got to be a lot better. Because when you're lunging, again, you're out of control. And there's a risk, obviously, giving away a penalty in that. But, yeah. For me, I just thought, I mean, the reason I screamed was because every time Madison got on the ball, I just felt it was sort of, it was going to be one of those moments where he decided the game. And I can imagine him getting the penalty.
15:41He's going to take it, isn't he? You know what Madison's like? And it's just a slight touch on the ball. They get to the right decision. So he came on in the 85th minute. He had 22 touches in the game. I mean, he probably didn't expect, as I said before, an extra 13 added minutes. But does that tell you a story in itself that Spurs, his teammates know when he's on the pitch, you have to get the ball to him? But that's the great thing about Madison. No matter what's going on in his career, he's just come back for his first appearance with a horrific injury. He'll always want the ball. Every time you see, listen, we've done a piece on Oregard tonight, brilliant in terms of showing leadership, always wanting the ball.
16:16That would be Madison. No matter what the situation, if this goes to the last game of the season against Everton, understandably so. there'll be real nerves in that stadium from players will he want to receive the ball? That would not be the case with him. Mariton will always want to receive the ball. I just had visions of him doing something coming in here and giving him Charlie Big potatoes. You know, I've kept topping him up. You can imagine it because he's that type of character. Friend of the show, friend of the show.
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17:19This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. Let's get more analysis of the game and return to the student. Just a point for Spurs tonight. That's ten home games without a win for only the second time in their history. And it might well have been worse. They might have been empty-handed if it wasn't for that amazing Kinski save later on.
17:44That empty stare tells its own story, doesn't it? Spurs are right in there, still fighting, and they're two points clear of West Ham United in the bottom three. That point for Leeds moves them up to 14th place. They were concerned safe before tonight. They can look forward to another season in the Premier League. And, well, they might celebrate in front of their noisy travelling fans who made the trip to London tonight. Let's hear from Daniel Farker now with Nathalie Gedra. Daniel, a point in the end. How proud are you of the fight the team showed tonight? Yes, very proud because sometimes during a long season there's also a game that you don't just win with your football quality and dominating each of your moments.
18:26Sometimes you have to show steel, especially in a difficult away game. Tottenham back-to-back wins here, important home game for them. With a difficult week, important players are out and had to play also today some players out of position. Then once you go one nil down after this first half and then early in the second half can be very difficult and sometimes you can crumble. Not us. We showed again that we didn't want to lose this game. We stepped up. I think fully deserved also to equalize and we're pretty, pretty close also to turn the game complete to win it. And yeah, this says a lot about the mentality, about the character of my team, although really many important players were missing today and also during the game.
19:03Pascal Stoic then additionally also out. And yeah, so we showed great resilience against all the adversity and I think we were a bit unlucky not to win it in the end. Yes, but the point is also important for us in the table, also in comparison to Tottenham. And yeah, for that, yeah, it was definitely a good night for us. Yeah, as you mentioned, you had problems with your starting XI with injured players. That first half, those final 20 minutes in the first half where they managed to speed up the game. How difficult, how challenging was it to deal with that? Because they had a few opportunities.
19:37Yes, I think I could have been a bit braver in the first half. So the 50-50 duels were not falling to us anyhow. And we were one or two times pressed in the build-up. And this has impressed us. So we would have preferred to be a bit colder and say, OK, it happens, but we play further on. So we played a bit too many long balls in the first half, but also reminded them during the halftime to be a bit more braver and stick to all principles and how we want to build up. And I think second half was way better in many aspects. But sometimes you also have a difficult game on the road, a few changes needed, you need a bit of time to come into it.
20:18It's also a sign of quality if you then can step up with your performance during the game. And for that, I just have compliments from our players today. How pleased were you with the way you were able to capitalize on the momentum after you scored the penalty? Yes, of course, a draw is a better result for us in comparison to Tottenham. But I like that we just didn't want to sit back. It's more like we pressed some high, wanted to create further chances. And my players were greedy also to score and to win this game. Of course, we always play to win wherever we go. And OK, if it's not possible, then we want to make sure that we don't lose it.
20:52But in our DNA will always be that we want to win football games. And this is also what we've shown in this period of the game. How nerve-wracking was it to have 13 minutes of at a time? Yes, it feels when we are chasing the game, maximum is given as always four or five minutes. But once we are in lead, then we have record added injured time. Surprised with the 13 minutes? It's not my topic to judge it. I was quite happy because I know we have a top fitness level and I also want to chase this game. Of course, a draw is a good result for us. But in the end, it felt also like, no, no, we can win it.
21:27And Sean Longs have had two great chances, one unbelievable save of the goalkeeper. and for that I was not too annoyed, if I'm honest. And before the game we were talking about keeping focus because the main goal was achieved, you guys are safe but tonight was it a big show of the character this team built throughout the season and the ambitions you may have for the future as well? Yes, if someone is not highly motivated once you represent this amazing club and you put a shirt on there's no doubt, of course we don't need the points in terms of survival anymore but how can you not be motivated and I don't need players that I need to motivate it's more like then you're not a player for Leeds United so if you put the shirt on and represent this club then you have to be at your very best and we also want to finish as high as possible and if you have a Premier League game then you have to be there with your best possible shape and with your best possible performance and this is what we're all about what the dressing room is all about what my players are about and we have created this culture and we'll never stop so I was not 1 % concerned before the game.
22:31And finally, did you have a chance to watch back the challenge on Madison? What's your view of that, of the penalty appeal in the end? No, I didn't have the chance to watch a scene back. James was my player when he was pretty young. At Norwich, I know how smart he is and that he can then also influence a game and he won very smart a few free kicks. He's also like he's unbelievably smart in the box and Ken knows also what he has to do in order to win something for his team. Normally as smart and experienced as he meanwhile is, I would suggest perhaps it was a bit light that he went down, but I haven't seen the game, the scene back anyhow.
23:13And I think it was also reviewed anyhow, so probably it was not a penalty. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you very much. I think you know you've been hugged when you've had a Daniel Farker hug. That was a lot of love. A lot of love, wasn't it, that hug? It's a lot of love in that. We questioned before the game what intensity Leeds would bring, given they were already safe. Did we get our answer? Yeah, I said it. I spoke about standards and the manager mentioned culture at a football club. Everyone's sort of like pulling in the right direction. Second half, they're really good. Good football team, you know.
23:49I don't think they get enough credit. You speak about Leeds and what they do without the ball and out of possession. but I think when they get the ball back because at some stage you have to have a spell and show your quality and I think they did that tonight and I think they've done that throughout the season. Are you quite looking forward to seeing what they do next season Jamie? Yeah, a lot was made of what they did in the summer. They recruited a lot of big lads shall we say I thought it was really clever understandable get themselves equipped physically for the Premier League and maybe I had an idea about how Leeds would play but I think Leeds were the first Monday Night Football weren't they against Everton?
24:21I think the first show we did this season and some of the football, they play is fantastic. I love them. I love watching them play. I think they're a really good team. I've almost got to try and forget out of my mind that they're a promoted team because you'd always have this sort of thing and you had that, will they be able to compete in the Premier League and to step up for a lot of the players? And I know they bought some players but I feel like I'm watching an established Premier League team. And how smart was it to stick with the manager when his future was being questioned? Well, listen, it's easy for us to say now but there was always a lot made that he was a championship manager who couldn't cut it in the Premier League but I think he's proven a lot of doubters wrong he's had a real influence on the team in terms of changing the system but the football he played they haven't just come in and sort of whacked it long relied on set pieces they play really good football and in Ethan and Perdue every time I watch him play I'm impressed by that he's been one of my favourite players certainly midfield players I've watched in the Premier League this season every time I watch him doesn't have a bad game fantastic
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25:58Roberto Di Serbi has to settle for a draw tonight. That is four unbeaten, though, now for Spurs. And the maths is, with that two-point advantage over West Ham and the better goal difference, that four points from here, from those last two games will see them safe. Here he is with Natalie Jedra. Roberto, a lot of chances created a dramatic ending. How do you feel about the performance and about the point? We played a good game, not great, but there was a big pressure. We didn't play calmo. we wanted to win immediately without patience but at the end I think we have to fight until the end of the season Leeds played a good game, a true game we hope they play like this also against West Ham in the next game because it's right like this I'm sorry for the penalty we conceded because Matisse-Tel scored a great game in that situation.
27:19Maybe he's very young, but it's not a problem. For me, we showed the right spirit to everyone. I'm happy for the attitude, I'm happy for the behaviour, for the mentality. We didn't play well, but fighting for the relegation is like this. You can't play all games calm with the right quality. We have to improve and to change the habits, because fighting for the relegation is different than fights to qualify in Champions League. But we know and we move on. Let's break this down. What do you feel you can do to manage emotions better, especially in those final two games? Because you had a lot of chances in the first half.
28:18Was it about nerves? Yes, but nerves because we are... I'm lucky because I have a lot of good people inside of the dressing room. My players are good players in football, if we speak about football, but good people and good people, sensitive people feel the pressure, what we are fighting, for what we are fighting. And can happen to suffer like tonight, maybe in Birmingham in Villa Park. We played better. What can happen in our stadium? Yesterday the result of West Ham was not a match point but anyway we played for a big target today. Who played football understand my words. You mentioned Matisteo.
29:28What kind of conversation do you have with him after tonight because he scored the goal but then again a bit reckless in the penalty? Nothing. He's young, he's a talent. I will kiss him and I will hug him and stop because he doesn't need too many words. He was sorry for the mistake, because it's not a mistake, but it can happen for a young player to make that mistake in that situation. Talking about challenges right in the end, the Madison appeal for a penalty, how did you see that in that moment? I don't know. I think the referee was not in the right condition today. I don't know, maybe he was not so calm, but nothing for the result.
30:34I didn't see the situation of Madison. I think the polemic of yesterday in West Ham, Arsenal was tough for everyone, maybe for the referee as well. Why did you feel that the referee wasn't at his best tonight? Because I saw that you got booked as well. At the beginning of the game they went to me after one minute to stay inside because a yellow card. After one minute I didn't understand why, because Because it's a game, it's an important game, it's a crucial part of the season. But if you are good with yourself, you can make mistakes. I don't know, I don't want to speak about the James Madison penalty.
31:24I didn't see, and nothing changed now. On what you can affect in those final two games, There's been a lot of positivity in the past couple of games especially and you've been very confident since you arrived So how do you make sure you keep that positivity in the dressing room with the players? But listen yesterday Two days ago in press conference I said that we can't forget what was the situation two weeks ago just two weeks two weeks ago not Two months ago and two weeks ago we we lost in Sunderland after Sunderland was impossible to see ourselves in two games before the end of the season more two points than West Ham.
32:10So now we have to be positive, we have to work harder than other situations, but we have the quality to make other points and to stay up. I think we deserve to stay up and stop and we fight until the end. You know, when you fight for the relegation, you have to stay strong, not with the legs, but with the head. And to push until the end. And also, if we win today, it's not finished yet. Thank you, Roberto. Two games to go. We talked before the match, Jermaine, about his psychological powers. Have we seen that at work there? So there wasn't too much wrong with what Spurs did, but there was a lot wrong with everything else in the evening, including the officials.
33:05Yeah, of course, you have to protect your players. Is that something you've had to learn as well as a manager? I think you have to. We spoke before about the psychology of football, young players, and he spoke about Tell. I'm going to kiss him and hug him. Players will watch these interviews. All of a sudden, for a young player, how does that make you feel? When you felt like you've let the team down, when actually you haven't, because, like you said, young players make mistakes um but he's a top player you're going to need him um and yeah i mean he's a top manager he's he's um you know he spoke about having good characters in the change rooms good people i think that helps does does his return and does the form the team have shown since he's come back yeah make you think they will yeah i was just gonna i was just gonna say he spoke about also we spoke about which was a good point about you know losing against sunday away and then you know having to look forward and and where they are now so they're They're going in the right directions.
33:58The performances are improved, you know, and the results. And I think that's all you can ask for, really. Unlucky tonight, you know, is a silly moment in the game, you know, when you need calm heads. But they're going in the right direction. Like I said, it's two points and two more games there. Maximum four points needed from the final two fixtures. Realities, they might not need anything, depending on what West Ham do starting at Newcastle on Sunday afternoon. Chelsea is in eight days' time. That is going to be, well, that could be a bear pit, Jamie, couldn't it? At Stamford Bridge. I'm commentating on it.
34:35I'm looking forward to it. It should be a good game. Am I allowed to give that away, am I? Well, I'll be presenting it as well. Let's give it all away. We're there for a reason, because we think it's going to be a really good night. No, listen, I think Chelsea-Tottenham games, since I've been working at Sky, are probably one of the fixtures that it just feels like there's always something on it. There's a little bit of needle there. Obviously, two good, you know, huge football clubs. So I'm really looking forward to that game. And I mean, it's just a lot riding on that Newcastle game, isn't there?
35:04A couple of days beforehand, and that can completely change the sort of outlook of Tottenham going into that game. I suppose my question, Jermaine, on the final day is, would you be nervous if it does go to the final day about the part that the crowd at Spurs getting nervy could play on them getting a result against Everton? Of course, you'd be nervous now. Especially, I think these players would be nervous. A lot of these players have not been through a situation like this before. It's the first for many of these players. So you'd be nervous now, especially not getting the three points tonight.
35:38A little bit of breathing space. But yeah, if you go down to the last game of the season at home, in front of your home fans, of course, I mean, normally you'd think we'd rather play at home. You know, you get the job done at home. But I just feel like the way it's gone this season at home, of course you'd be nervous. I think that's only natural.
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Dave Jones presents Monday Night Football alongside Jamie Carragher and former Spurs striker Jermain Defoe, and they analyse Tottenham Hotspur’s 1-1 draw with already-safe Leeds United as their relegation battle with West Ham took another twist.
There is also reaction from both managers, with Natalie Gedra speaking to Daniel Farke and Roberto De Zerbi.
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