Dr. Bradley Nelson - How Your Body Can Heal Itself

28:44And I thought, wow, that's really amazing. Well, a couple of days later, it started to come back again a little. I rechecked those connections, had to remake a couple of them. And then she was fine. A couple of days later, there was, I think, one that had shorted out again, had to reconnect that. And she was fine. Didn't have any more morning sickness all through her pregnancy. And so we actually have practitioners now. We've certified over 10 ,000 practitioners in the emotion code. This is actually something that's in the body code, but we have thousands of people that we've certified in that as well.

29:15And many, many other thousands that are doing this work on their family members and friends and so on we have people who are certified uh who specialize now in this in fixing uh the nausea of pregnancy in different parts of the world amazing so yeah so those are a couple of examples so it's been a really interesting journey i want to say that there is so much evidence that those kinds of practices work even more efficiently most of the time or often let me say than popping a pill for sure, right? And that has happened throughout history. You use the energy meridians that, you know, the Chinese have been talking about for ages, right?

30:00You speak about the body-emotion relationship that's basically part of Reiki and what, you know, the Japanese practice is all about and so on. And yet humanity seems to have not a weak memory, but I would say adamance, you know, So humanity is like adamant to forget those things. It's quite shocking for me, really. Why do you think that is? Well, I think that in the West, it has a lot to do with organized Western medicine. I think that Western medicine is based, was really born in the Civil War and in the World Wars. And it's based even still to this day on this idea that I like to call heroic measures.

30:43And that means that if you're a soldier and you're on the battlefield and a cannonball comes bouncing along and it takes off your leg, well, you better hope your doctor is nearby and that he performs heroic measures on you immediately or you're going to die. Well, heroic measures are often needed, right? And there have been many, many doctors who have done a lot of heroic, amazing, incredible things and still do every day. But Western medicine, because of that, has a tendency to focus on dramatic intervention and also on the suppression of symptoms. So in other words, and I think that this really all, it kind of comes out of the industrial revolution where the machine suddenly came into prominence and the body began to be looked at as a machine with other machines inside of it.

31:32And if a machine malfunctions, you just take it out. Maybe you can put in a new machine, right, from somebody else. We're still taking care of ourselves that way. But the symptom suppression part of it has been largely run by the pharmaceutical industrial complex, you might call it, where they've come out with and they're still coming out with drugs all the time. And all of these drugs essentially are more or less toxic to the body. But we take them because they achieve some certain result. And that result usually is the suppression of some kind of symptom. But I'll tell you something, Mo, what I have learned over all these years doing this is that the symptom is not the problem.

32:21Of course. In other words, right? You might have migraine headaches and that might be a problem for sure. And it might be miserable for you. But there are other reasons for those headaches. You might be dealing with depression or anxiety or phobias or panic attacks or PTSD or eating disorders or some kind of self-sabotage. You might be dealing with infertility or asthma or digestive problems, or you might have been diagnosed with some kind of a major life-threatening disease. But in every case, those symptoms are not really the problem. see those symptoms are just symptoms they're like the check engine light in your car you know if you're driving down the highway and your check engine light comes on you know you pull into a mechanic and if the mechanic comes back and says ah we found the problem it was your check engine light we turned it off yeah we switched off your check engine light you're okay now you can go right you think the guy's out of his mind but that's how we take care of our bodies.

33:25But we just don't realize that all of these things that I mentioned, they're all just check engine lights. And so being in practice as a holistic physician, as a chiropractor, trying to figure out what was wrong with my patients. And because I didn't have a license to prescribe drugs to suppress symptoms, and I didn't have a license to do surgery and remove these troublesome organs, I was left with this dilemma of actually having to figure out what was really wrong with my patients. And let me tell you something. I was obsessed, really. I had OCD about this, about figuring out what was really wrong with these people.

34:04Why were they suffering? Why wouldn't they get better? What was really going on? And I had just some really interesting experiences as time went on. I learned a method that I used for a number of years called activator method. And it's the method where a person will, you'll have a special kind of a table where a person will stand up against this vertical table and grab the handholds and put their nose in the slot. And then the table goes down horizontal and this foot plate drops away. And I would look at the length of their legs, right? And what I found was, and what I learned in this method is that if, for example, a bone was out of alignment somewhere, if I actually pushed on that bone and pushed it further into the direction of misalignment, when I went back and I checked the legs, the whole body would respond and the leg length would be dramatically off, right?

34:59And so by making a correction to that bone, what I found on realigning that bone, I found that everything would balance out. And that was how I worked for years. He would come in and I would balance them out in every way that I could. Well, one day I had this experience. where this guy comes in to see me and, um, I'm at the end of his treatment. I've got them all balanced. His legs are perfectly balanced. And for some reason, um, I, I start thinking about his left kidney and I come back and check his leg length and all of a sudden they're way off. And I thought, wait a minute, what? I just had him balanced.

35:39I thought about his right kidney and checked his legs and they were balanced again, thought about his left kidney and boom, there was a huge imbalance again. And so I thought, gee, that's really wild. And so as time went on, I found that I could actually ask the body questions silently, just mentally. And somehow my thoughts were being responded to by the subconscious mind of the person that I was working on. And I found that I could get yes and no answers with leg length. And then later I experimented more with muscle testing and getting answers that way. And so on, I had a really interesting experience when they check this out.

36:25This is actually in the emotion code. You might remember this, but one day I had a guy that came in and it was a, I think it was his third or fourth treatment. And he lays down on the table and he's face down on the table and And I'm checking his leg length. And at this time, what I would do, Mo, is I would just silently ask for a yes or a no answer from the body itself. And that would result in the leg length being balanced or imbalanced. Balanced for yes, imbalanced for no. And for the first time in years of doing this, I found I could not get any kind of answer at all. And I thought, wait a minute, that's really weird.

37:09Let me try it again. yes give me show me a yes show me no just silently no answer and i looked up and for the first time i noticed what this guy was wearing he's wearing this t-shirt and on the back of his t-shirt is this big decal about this big around of the the uh the clown the stephen king clown from the movie it really evil looking you know with fangs dripping blood and the whole thing. And I thought, huh, I wonder if that has anything to do with this. And I took a piece of paper and I covered up this decal and I went back down to the foot of the table. And I started just mentally asking for yes and no.

37:48And I got perfect answers. And I thought, no way. And I uncovered the decal and then I couldn't get in anything. And I covered it up again. I did this for a couple of minutes, just covering it and uncovering it and testing. I hadn't said a word to him the whole time. And finally, I told him, I said, you know, this t-shirt that you're wearing, I think this is having some kind of an effect on your body. You might want to get a different t-shirt or I don't know, but I kind of explained it to him and then I never saw him again. Yeah, I think that's the kind of very, very modern world logic-based person.

38:24What do you think that means though? Well, I don't know. I think that things have their own vibration, right? Everything has a vibration. I think that was probably just a very low vibration. I mean, if you think about things in terms of vibration, joy is at the high end of the scale and shame and fear and terror and all those things are way down there. They're very low vibrations, right? So that was an interesting experience. And as I practice day in and day out with people, things got more and more complicated. In other words, I saw more and more complicated cases as my skills increased. And I always had a computer there.

39:09I had learned about mind mapping when I was in school from a classmate of mine, a guy named Dr. Steve Bonner. And so when I got out of school, I had a computer there. And as soon as Mind Manager came out, I bought a copy of that. And so I had my computer there. And I was always kind of trying to categorize things because I wanted to record things that I was doing. And as I would find new imbalances, like the physical trauma energy that I mentioned about the guy with the whiplash, I tried to figure out, okay, in this hierarchy, where can I put this? So I was building this knowledge base. And so the fascinating thing was, as I was working with people, I found that I could use that knowledge base.

39:56I could ask questions of my patients and it would take me to different places in this knowledge base. So it seemed that somehow either their subconscious mind knew what was in the knowledge base or it was accessing it through my subconscious mind or something, but I was able to ask questions. and get answers. And so, for example, here's another story. A woman came in to see me one day who'd been hospitalized for five days with this pain in her abdomen. And they ran every test known to man and all the tests were negative. And so there was nothing that they had to offer her. And so they released her and sent her home.

40:33And so she comes in to see me. She's about a nine on a zero to 10 scale of pain. And I started testing her using this knowledge base that now, of course, we call the body code and found a couple of imbalances, found some emotional energy trapped in the body, released those. And there are a couple of other things. One of the things that showed up was that she needed chromium. And I thought, okay, chromium is great for blood sugar, kind of an incidental finding. And so I mentioned it to her. I said, we're out of chromium tablets right now, but I said, I think you should get some at some point. I think your body needs it.

41:10so fine. So she left the office. She's still in pain. Next day she comes in and she's actually even worse. And I remember thinking, okay, I don't know how they missed this, but they must have missed it in the hospital. I don't know what it is, but I didn't know what else to do. So I started accessing this mind map that I'd built up. And out of all the possibilities, I was taken right to nutrition, to a table that I'd put together of nutrients. And in that table, I was taken right to chromium. And only at that moment did I remember, oh, yeah, wait, this showed up yesterday, chromium. And I said, you know what?

41:51I don't know why, but I said, I think your body really needs chromium. And I said, I want you to leave my office right now, go down the street to the health food store, buy some chromium tablets, ask them for water. Don't even wait. Go ahead and take some right then. And then come back. 20 minutes later, Mo, this young, very athletic woman is literally jumping up and down in my waiting room saying, I'm fixed. I'm fixed. She was so excited. She said the instant that she took the chromium, the pain was gone completely. And she said, how did that work? And I said, I have no idea. I have no idea. But I said, luckily, your subconscious mind was able to communicate that that's what it needed.

42:40And that really, in a nutshell, is the story of the emotion code and the body code. It's that the subconscious mind finally, after all these years of man's existence, is being given a voice. and the subconscious mind's finally being able to speak its own truth and given a platform and an interface, really, so that now we can ask questions, we can get answers out of the subconscious mind, and it's the ultimate source. It knows exactly what's wrong. Incredible. So what does that mean? It means, let me recap here. So the body understands, The subconscious mind understands. And it has a very lousy interface.

43:24It's almost like the old command prompt of DOS, right? So you have to simply ask it. You have to know what you're doing and ask it questions. But you didn't settle for that, right? So what you're trying to do with the body code is you're trying to say, I'm the expert who knows how to ask it questions. but everyone can be the expert to ask their own body those questions. Is that what the idea of the body code is? It's basically saying, I know something that can earn me a lot of money and success. I can be a renowned healer that people need to, but I'm going to make 10 ,000 others practitioners of the same because it can heal everyone.

44:04Yes, exactly. Yes, that's remarkable. That's exactly right. Anybody can do this. Anyone can do it. And people are doing it all over the world. and are having great results and have been doing it for a while. And I'll tell you what happened. See, I wrote the Emotion Code book in 2007 and published it. It came out the same month and the same year as the iPhone, July 2007, which kind of orients us, right? Because that was a big landmark for humanity, I think, in a lot of ways. And so about a year after the Emotion Code came out, I woke up one morning and my mind was full of instruction. It was a very strange thing, but I woke up and I was specifically told, and I believe that this came from the higher power.

44:51And the instruction was, you need to take everything that you've learned about natural healing and put it into a self-study course that anyone can learn and make it available to everyone, everywhere. And that was it. And I remember thinking, are you sure about this? It seems like it actually might require some work. and it did it took a year to create the first version of the uh of the body code and then we created a new version in um that we introduced in 2013 and now it's an app we call it the body code system and uh it's a subscription app that you can get you can download and you can use it And basically, the book now, the body code book is really the user's manual for the app is really how it goes.

45:43And so the beauty of it is that really, truly anybody can do this. Let me tell you one more story. One of the first experiences that I had with emotional baggage, because we need to talk about this. Yeah, exactly. What I learned in practice was that all of my patients, no matter how young or old they were, no matter what they were suffering from, they all had something in common. And I came to call that their emotional baggage. And we talk about emotional baggage, right, Mo? Usually when we're referring to somebody else, like, man, that guy, he's got a lot of emotional baggage or whatever. But we all have emotional baggage, right?

46:20And what I found was that emotional baggage that we have consists of the energy of these emotional experiences that we have gone through that have become trapped in our bodies. So here's how I like to explain this. If you can imagine when something happens to you, there's some stimulus that occurs. You see something, you hear something, whatever it is, you start into this little loop I call the emotional loop, and you start feeling the sensations, maybe the physical sensations. You start feeling or thinking the thoughts that go along with that emotion. And most of the time, what happens is you acknowledge that emotion and then you allow it to kind of dissipate naturally and disappear.

47:08So you've closed that loop in that way. And that loop is done and that emotional experience is over and done with and moves on. However, sometimes what happens is an emotion comes up and you start to feel that. And maybe you made a decision a long time ago because your dad was a rageaholic that anger is not an emotion you're ever going to allow yourself to feel. And so if you don't allow yourself to feel an emotion, what you're doing is you're stopping that loop from happening and completing. So now you've got an open loop. And now the energy of that emotion, because everything is energy, now the energy of that emotion is still kind of in suspended animation in the body.

47:47And so that energy is in the body. And we refer to that as a trapped emotion. And a trapped emotion is a little ball of emotional frequency from about the size of a baseball to about the size of a softball. And these things will lodge in the body and they can lodge anywhere. And then they'll cause physical and mental and emotional symptoms. So another way that we trap these emotions is, let's say that you start into an emotional experience. You're starting into that loop and you decide yourself, you're going to amplify that feeling so that rather than just feeling a little resentful or a little angry or something or a little grieved about something or a little frustrated, you decide, you know what, I'm really going to just take this to the wall.

48:32And so you do. And that will also interrupt this loop from being completed because now you've amplified that energy to a point where your whole being is vibrating at that frequency. And that will also trap that emotional energy. So one of the first cases that I saw was a woman that came in to see me many years ago, thought she was having a heart attack. The left side of her face is totally numb. Her left arm is totally numb. She's got crushing chest pain, difficulty breathing. We were right next to a medical center. I told my staff, look, we might need an ambulance, but give me one minute with her.

49:06And so I brought her into her room and started testing her. And I asked if there was a trapped emotion that was contributing to these symptoms. And the answer from her subconscious mind was yes. And very quickly, I figured out the emotion was grief. And after that, very quickly figured out this all was in less than a minute, I figured out it was grief from three years before. And when I arrived at that, she all of a sudden burst into tears. And she said, I can't believe that's affecting me. She said, I thought I dealt with all that. And I said, well, what in the world happened? She said three years before her husband had been having an affair and she confronted him with the evidence and the marriage blew up and she was really deeply in love with this guy, but he totally betrayed her.

49:52And so the marriage ended. She spent a year in therapy kind of dealing with it and trying to get back on her feet. She'd even recently gotten remarried. So Mo, as far as she was concerned, that guy was just her ex. But as far as her body was concerned, it was like it had just happened. All the grief is right there. And when I released that by just swiping a few times again down the governing meridian, release that energy, all of a sudden the feeling came back into her arm and into her face within about three seconds. And chest pain was gone. Difficulty breathing was gone. She left the office about 10 minutes later after joking with my staff and I and talking with us.

50:32And that woman has never had another issue with her heart. But I'll tell you something, I really believe. And that was like 30, probably 30 years ago. And we're still in touch. She's got a horse ranch in Oregon. And I think about that. I believe that it's very possible that she would have died of a heart attack or some kind of heart failure. And nobody would have realized that what really killed her was her husband's affair. We now know that people die from a broken heart, right? Right. And so that was one of the, one of the first experiences that I had with how powerful emotional baggage can be, because what it does is it, you see, when you have a trapped emotion and you've got a ball of emotional energy in the body, what it does is wherever it lodges and they can lodge anywhere, wherever it lodges, it will tend to distort the normal energy field of the body in that area.

51:26And when that happens, when you distort the energy field, I mean, And of course, you're distorting the chemical reactions taking place to some degree in there, but the flow of acupuncture meridian energy through that area, maybe the blood flow, maybe the limb flow to some degree. And so that's why 90 % of the physical pain that people have is actually due to emotional baggage. Think about that. That's what we have observed for years. And so a check engine light, one of the most common check engine lights people have is actually pain, but that pain is so often due to emotional baggage most of the time.

52:04So I wrote the book, The Emotion Code, because people needed to know this. And then The Body Code, again, started working on that after I was told to do it about a year later. And now we have the book that just came out where people can learn how to do this themselves. And so in the book, what we have is the whole explanation of how it works. And we have a map in here in the middle of the book that contains the six different kinds of imbalances that I was able to categorize over all those years working with all of those patients. And during the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I worked with had been told there was really no hope for them in Western medicine at all.

52:48And yet by asking the subconscious mind, by going direct to the internal computer and asking it what they really needed, the vast majority of those people were able to get well. So what I believe is that, first of all, there's always going to be a need for Western medicine. It's always going to be, people are always going to have traumatic things, right? People are always going to need painkillers and so on. But most of the time, most people don't need surgery and most people don't need medication. What they need is to find the imbalances that are going on within them and correct those imbalances.

53:26So I foresee a future where people have the best of all worlds and they'll be able to actually access that internal computer on their own. And they're doing it. It's working, happening all over the world. What are those six imbalances? Trapped emotions is one. Well, actually, yes. So we have one category is energies. Now, energies has to do with trapped emotions, right? It has to do with physical trauma, like I explained, the whiplash story. That's in here. There are other kinds of imbalances in there as well. Well, the next category, of course, is pathogens. And pathogens, of course, have to do with things like viruses and bacteria and parasites and fungus and things like that.

54:13Let me tell you a story, actually. Here's a great story from this one. In this category, there was a guy that came in to see me. His wife actually had fibromyalgia, which is pain all over in the muscles. And it's kind of one of those hopeless things in Western medicine. But anyway, I was able to help her to get well by tapping into that internal computer. So her husband comes in. She's been trying to get him to come in for a while. He finally comes in. And here's the story. Four years before, this guy was a truck driver driving this truck. And he starts getting this uncomfortable swelling in his groin.

54:45And his scrotum swells up really big and becomes, just as you can imagine, excruciatingly painful. And he can't drive his truck anymore. And so now he's just seeing doctors trying to figure out what's wrong with him and what's causing this swelling. And so he goes on disability because he can't really work. And four years go by. Two years into this, he has exploratory surgery where they open him up, they look around and don't really see anything obvious. And so they stitch him back up again, and all the swelling comes back. So this guy, young guy, about 35 years old, beautiful wife, a couple of really cute kids, but his life is really kind of a living hell.

55:31So four years into this, he comes in to see me. And he told me that when he came in to see me, at the time, he was seeing doctors at UCLA Medical Center and also at Scripps La Jolla in San Diego. And he was kind of shuttling between these places. And I think honestly that he was a medical mystery and kind of an anomaly and nobody really knew what to do or how to fix and they didn't know what to do. There was just no answer to this. So I start using the body code on this guy and asking his subconscious mind questions. And right away, I'm taken to pathogens and just muscle testing him, getting answers.

56:10And right away, I'm taken to parasites. And I said, oh, that's interesting. I said, I think you might have a parasite. Has anybody mentioned that that might be a possibility to you? And he said, no, nobody's ever mentioned that it might be a parasite. And I said, well, I think that's what's going on. And so I had a parasite supplement that I tested him for. We had four different kinds and I tested him to see which one he needed and gave him a couple of bottles of these special herbs and he took them home. But he didn't want to take them because he just thought this is stupid. You know, this guy's out of his mind and, you know, this is hopeless.

56:46But his wife made him take the supplements, right? Five days later, this guy comes back into my office. and still to this day, I think he was the most excited young man I've ever met because it all just disappeared. It all just melted away within that short of time too. And so, so think about that. I mean, this subconscious mind knew that internal computer knows it knows what we need. And, uh, the future Mo, I believe is asking. I mean, why not ask if the information is there, why not ask? And what the body code does is it just gives you a way to ask questions. So the third category is what we call circuits and systems.

57:29And this one has a very technical term, Bradley. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you know, I'm kind of a geek. And so, uh,

57:39this one has to do with the organs and the glands of the body and, uh, and also disconnections between the spirit and the physical body. And those can be really powerful. So one of the things that we teach people in this part of the body code is how organs and glands connect to certain muscles. And I found this out. I was driven to find this out. I wasn't the one that discovered these connections. I mean, there's nothing new under the sun. All I've done is kind of put things together into one sort of a package. But I remember when I was in chiropractic school clinic, there was a patient of mine in the clinic that would come in every week.

58:22And every week he had pain in between his shoulder blades. And every week these bones between his shoulder blades would be out of alignment. And every week I would realign these bones and he would feel better. And then the next week he'd come back and it would all be out of alignment again. Now, I needed a certain number of adjustments to be able to graduate chiropractic school. So this guy became like my best friend. But it drove me kind of nuts because I used to think, what is wrong? I don't understand. I'm realigning these bones. But then the next week, they're out of alignment again. I don't get it.

58:54Is it me? Am I a bad doctor? Am I a bad chiropractor? Is it this guy? What's going on? It took me years before I understood it was happening. that almost without question, that guy has some kind of an imbalance going on in his liver, see, because there are connections between the organs and most of the glands and certain muscles. So check this out. If you overload your liver, for example, maybe you got exposed to some kind of pesticide or maybe you've had mercury fillings or something as a kid, maybe your liver is kind of imbalance, what that will do is it will imbalance a muscle that travels from the inside of the right shoulder blade to the spine.

59:38It's called the rhomboid muscle or the rhomboid is, depending on how you want to say it. And when that muscle's out of balance, then the bones in that area won't stay aligned. Now, by the same token, if you overload your gallbladder because maybe you've been feeling too much anger or resentment, or maybe because you've been eating too many French fries and milkshakes and things, overloading that organ, then what will happen is that organ will kind of imbalance, short circuit a little bit. And there's a muscle in the back of the right knee that will imbalance at that same moment because they're on the same circuit, you see.

1:00:16And so you'll tend to have right knee pain because of the gallbladder. So when I was in practice, I found that when somebody would come in to see me, if they had right knee pain, I'd go right to their gallbladder and check it. And 99 times out of 100, there'd be an imbalance there. And I found if I fixed that imbalance and then I had them walk, the knee pain would be gone, right? And so there's all these connections. I found that if you have pain in your left knee, for example, that's usually because you have been under too much stress for too long and it's imbalanced the adrenal gland on the left side.

1:00:50And what I found was that when you have paired organs, like the lungs and the kidneys and the adrenals, what would happen is the left side would almost always blow out first. Because it's like in the body, when you have paired organs, the left side is the main, the right's the reserve or the backup, see? And so there's a story in the book, for example, this lady came into me one day, she had pain in both knees. And she said, Dr. Nelson, she's kind of overweight. She said, Dr. Nelson, she said, I've got a problem. My knees are killing me. She said, my doctor says it's overuse. And she said, but she said, I've got to lose this weight.

1:01:25She said, if I can't jazzercise, and I don't even know if that's a thing anymore, but you remember jazzercising? Jazzercise was a thing back in those days. I don't know if it's still around, but it was jazz dancing. She said, if I can't jazzercise, I'm not going to be able to lose the weight. If I can't lose the weight, I'm going to lose my husband. This is what she said to me. And I thought, well, okay, let's see what's going on. So I found an imbalance in her gallbladder, corrected that it was actually some emotional energy, some trapped emotional energy that was affecting her gallbladder. And I fixed that.

1:01:54And I said, okay, try walking around now, right knee pain gone, right? Cause the gallbladder is turned on. And then I said, okay, let's check your left knee, found an imbalance in her left adrenal gland, corrected that. And I said, okay, try walking around now. You shouldn't have any pain anymore at all. Right? So it's fascinating, but this is how the body works. It's really amazing. So anyway, in the body code, we teach about all of those kinds of things. And then, of course, section four here in the book, another category is misalignments. Now, of course, misalignments as a chiropractor, that was my training, right?

1:02:32To correct misaligned bones, primarily the bones in the spine. But as time went on, Mo, I found that any bone, of course, can misalign. And then as time went on, I found that any tissue can misalign. In fact, it's not unusual for organs, can misalign. I remember there was a guy right at closing one day that walked into my office and he's bent over. Walks in like this and he says, doc, can you help me? And I said, I don't know. I said, how long you been like that? And he said, a year. And I said, really? And so anyway, I brought him in, put him on a treatment table and found that his kidneys had both become misaligned.

1:03:17So I was able to correct those misalignments. and then I got him up right away and I said, okay, try walking around. And he's walking around and he's straight. He keeps saying, I'm straight. I'm straight. How did you do that? How did you do that? Right? So anyway, anything can misalign, but a lot of the time when you have a misalignment, it's actually due to something else. And in the body code, the body code is this beautiful mapping system. It really is an interface for the subconscious so it can guide you to whatever's going on. And then a section here is toxins. That's another category. And I'll share a story with you about that.

1:03:54There was a woman that came into the office that I was working in back in about 1988 when I got out of school. I went to work for a guy named Dr. Stan Flagg in Montana. And I learned a lot from him. He was a mentor of mine. I followed him around for about four months just taking notes. So one day a woman came into the office and she was very sick. She was in a wheelchair. She looked like she had one foot in the grave, honestly. Her whole family was with her. And she was coming in as kind of a last resort because she was suffering from total exhaustion and a lot of pain in her body. Didn't know what was wrong.

1:04:38She'd been to the hospital. They'd run tests. All the tests were negative. So she was coming in as a last resort. And so this doctor that I was working with found that I think he kind of picked up intuitively somehow, which is one of the ways we get information, something that had happened. And he asked her, he said, have you been bitten by a spider? And she thought about it and thought about it. And then she realized, she said, well, actually, yeah, I guess I was. maybe about, I think she'd been sick for about three weeks and had been about five weeks before that she'd been bitten by a spider, but she didn't think that much about it at the time.

1:05:17And so Dr. Flagg treated this venom as energy because everything is energy. Even though we think of things chemically, everything is also energy. And so he was able to treat her. And so she went home. She told us actually that the only time that she felt better at all was when she was in a tub of really hot water, but then it would take her whole family to get her out because she couldn't get out herself. She had no strength at all. So she was our last patient that day, that Friday in that summer of 1988, all those years ago. Monday morning, I walk into the office and there's a woman sitting in the waiting room.

1:06:00And I walk over and I start talking with her. and she looks familiar to me and I can't place her, can't figure out who she is. And then all of a sudden it dawns on me, this is the woman that we saw Friday. And she's not in a wheelchair. Her whole family's not with her. She looks totally healthy. And she and I actually cried together because the change was so amazing and so remarkable. Well, the reality of it is, see, everything is energy. And if we can wrap our minds around that, then it can change how we work on ourselves and how we work on things. In fact, let me tell you a story. Here's another one.

1:06:39I get a lot of these. I love this. This is my favorite podcast. Stories, stories, stories. Keep going. Well, so one day this patient of mine comes in and I hadn't seen her for a couple of years, but she comes in one day and she tells me that she's been diagnosed with Epstein-Barr virus. It's one of the viruses that causes chronic fatigue and other things. And so I started thinking about this. And I thought, okay, what am I going to do to help her? And so my habit was, right, to ask for help from up above, ask and receive, right? And so I said this short prayer and just asked for help. And because I didn't really know if there was a better way to help her or not.

1:07:21And this answer floods into me. And the answer is that essentially you can look at a virus as a little thing, like a little machine. It's infinitesimally small, but you can also look at it as pure energy. And to the extent that you can wrap your mind around that idea that a virus is really pure energy, to that same extent, you can actually then manipulate that energy in the body. And that was the answer. I thought, oh, wow, that's interesting. So you can essentially view some kind of infection or even a toxin or whatever it is. If you wrap your mind around that idea that everything is just energy, then you can manipulate things through your own intention because we know that subatomic particles will change their behavior depending on what the observer is expecting to see, right?

1:08:24And so we influence and we create our reality and so on. So that was part one of this lesson. So I was able to help her by just visualizing this as an energy and working with it that way. So part two of the lesson came a few months later. A woman came into my office and she had had this cough, this chronic cough, been going on for about a month. And whenever she started to breathe deeply, she'd start to cough uncontrollably. So she had to keep her breathing very shallow. She'd been to the doctor and they did an MRI, I think. And, you know, there was nothing obvious wrong with her. And so anyway, so I tested her using the body code as it was at the time.

1:09:11And I found that she had this virus in her lungs. It was just a cold, common cold virus. I had a list of different viruses and categories, and that's what showed up. So I thought, okay, I'll just imagine this as being like a cloud of energy that's settled into her lungs. And I swiped a few times with a magnet with an intention to release that from her body. And so I said, okay, try it now. Take a deep breath. And so she took a deep breath, no coughing at all. She couldn't believe it. She was so excited. And so I walked up with her to the front desk and talked with her and joked with her a little bit.

1:09:48And then she left after a few minutes. And I walked back down my hallway. And when I walked into the treatment room where I had been working on this woman, as I walked through the door, I felt something enter my chest. And I thought, oh no. And I took a deep breath and you started coughing immediately. Started coughing immediately. And of course, I knew what it was, but I tested it and it was the same thing. It was hers, but now it was mine. And I released it for myself, took a deep breath and I was totally fine. But when I released that energy from her. It just kind of hung there in the air. And it was part two of this lesson for me, see, so that I can share this with you.

1:10:30Now in Western medicine, Western biology terms, this makes no sense at all, right? Because we know that a virus has to hijack the cellular machinery and start producing copies of itself and so on. And that takes time. And so how does this fit? Well, I don't know. There's another level of reality, see, and it's the level of reality that exists in the quantum world. And so I share this with you because it's just something that we need to start understanding that there's more than what we've been led to believe and that Western biology doesn't really have all the answers. But anyway, isn't that interesting?

1:11:13I thought you'd like to hear that one. That's remarkable. I mean, in reality, I have to say we know very little. This universe is so complex that we simply assume that we grasped something. But in reality, it's just one layer of our perception. And it's very, very difficult to actually see what's happening. It's so complex and so multilayered. And you have to depend on a non-physical entity to give you some kind of insight to all that's non-physical. I posted yesterday on social media one famous scientist talking about how now we are really revisiting the whole idea, the whole concept of the Big Bang.

1:11:57Because, you know, the Big Bang has mathematics to it. And, you know, it takes billions of years for every galaxy to form. And yet now with, you know, better telescopes, we're starting to observe galaxies that are bigger than ours, that are half a billion years from the Big Bang, you know, that appeared half a billion years from the Big Bang. So, you know, what's happening here basically is saying we may have to actually, you know, revisit the idea that the Big Bang started everything. Of course, you know, scientists are always so sure of what they talk about. You know, they are never in doubt, really, but often they revisit.

1:12:38You know, I think it was Einstein that said scientists are often wrong, but never in doubt, basically. And I think that's the reality. The reality is that, yes, of course, you can look at a virus as a biological entity, or you can look at it as a group of subatomic particles that come into existence through quantum physics. And, you know, the uncertainty principle, the Copenhagen interpretation, if you want. And you end up basically saying, okay, so if you treat it as a physical object, not a biological object, how would it behave? Interesting, really. Yeah. There's a whole other reality. Let me share one more story with you.

1:13:15There was a, the cough story reminded me of this other story. I had another patient at some point that came into me. And here's what she said, Mo. She said, okay, she said, I've got this chronic cough. She said, I'm coughing all day long. I'm coughing all night long. She said, it's been going on for a year. She said, I've been to the hospital. They've run all kinds of tests. I've seen a lot of doctors and nobody can figure out what this is and nothing is really helping me. She said, my husband has moved into the other end of the house and he's been living in the other end of the house for quite a few months now.

1:13:50And she said, I'm afraid that my marriage may end if I don't get this cough fixed because it's just miserable. and I don't know what to do. And so I tested her. And to give you an idea how this works, I brought up the body code and looking at these six categories. And so what I did is I asked, okay, is there an underlying reason for this cough? And I got a yes answer from her subconscious mind, strong muscle test, right? And then I asked, okay, Well, is this reason on the left side of the chart? Yes. Okay. Is it in the energies category? No, that was weak. Is it in circuits and systems? No, that was weak.

1:14:37So it's in toxins. Okay. So I went to the toxins area and found out that it was some kind of a chemical toxin that was at least part of her problem, right? And so I pulled up on Google a list of household chemicals, right? And I just started testing these one at a time. and I got to camphorfenic. And I got a response out of her body, out of her subconscious mind on camphorfenic. And I said, camphorfenic. And she says, camphorfenic. And she turns totally pale. She says, camphorfenic. And I said, yeah, camphorfenic. Have you heard of camphorfenic? Do you remember camphorfenic? I have no idea what that is.

1:15:14Camphorfenic is something that, you know, I don't know, but it's probably been banned because it was really pretty toxic. and it was a mixture of camphor and phenol. And I mean, not a good thing, but anyway, it's probably not available anymore, but back then it was kind of a liniment that people would use. Right. And so I said, do you use Campo Phenique? And she said, well, yes. She said, we have this elderly woman who's a friend of our family for a long, long time. And she said, every night I go over. And the last thing I do at night is I rub her feet with Campo Phenique. And I said, well, I don't think you should do that anymore because I think that's part of your problem.

1:15:49And in fact, that was the whole reason for her coughing and just stopping that. But see, if you think about it, you know, she'd had all these tests done for a whole year and no answers were forthcoming. But then when someone finally asked her subconscious mind, what's going on, it was able to immediately take us to the actual reason. So that's kind of fun. But I need to ask you a question here. So if she does not know the body code and you ask her subconscious mind, is it on the left side of the chart? How does her subconscious mind know an answer to that? Yeah, that's a great question. Well, I'll tell you what I believe.

1:16:28If you think of a picture, think of a picture of an iceberg, okay, where you can see there's a small part of the iceberg extending up above the waterline, right? That part of the iceberg above the waterline, you can liken to the conscious mind. All right. The conscious mind is the smallest part of our intelligence. And then below the waterline, you've got the vast bulk of that iceberg, right? That's the part of the iceberg that sunk the Titanic, right? The part below the waterline. Huge. Well, that's the subconscious mind. Well, the water that the subconscious mind is residing in, I like to think of as being universal intelligence, or what Rupert Sheldrake calls the morphic field, the database of all that it is, all the intelligent energy that fills the universe.

1:17:21So this is all fascinating, but let me ask you a different question now. All of the cases that you speak about, all of the stories, are stories of people who have let one of the six inconsistencies or whatever, get them to the point where they're sick. Okay? Right. Is there a way where we can use the same method to stay healthy? Like, do we have to wait until we are in a bad place before we use the method? That's a fantastic question. And the reality is that you can absolutely use this method to find imbalances before they become symptoms. And ideally, that's what you want to do. Mo, what I used to do with my patients is I would actually really talk to their bodies in a sense.

1:18:15And what I found is that all of the organs and all of the glands and the different parts of the body are either in a state of contentment and balance, or they're in a state of discontentment or an imbalance, basically. So what I found that I could do is I could simply ask a person's internal computer. I could talk to the organs and ask, okay, is your liver happy? If your liver is not happy, or in other words, it's imbalanced in some ways, we then can ask why. And maybe we find that there's a toxin that needs to be removed, or maybe there's some kind of a pathogen or some emotional baggage or something.

1:18:54And what we have found is that by asking these questions and by talking to that internal computer, we can keep things balanced. We can find the imbalances before they combine together and create symptoms or disease for people. And so I believe that what we're looking at here with the body code is really the ultimate method of preventive medicine. Which is how it should be. Yeah. I'm so glad you pointed that out because that's absolutely what you can do. So what would be the practice? You know, do you need to go to an expert frequently? Is there something I can do with myself? You know, is there a way for me to actually sort of ask my subconscious mind the questions that I need to ask so that I'm constantly in shape if you want?

1:19:42Yeah, absolutely. You can totally work on yourself using this book. And the information, the instructions are all in the book itself, how to work on yourself, how to work on your family members, your loved ones and friends, and so on. So you can totally work on yourself. You can find and correct your own imbalances. However, I will say this. In my experience, we can find and correct 80 % to 90 % of our own imbalances by ourselves. But eventually you're going to need to have someone help you to get to that last 10 or 20 % of the imbalances that you have going on. And the reason why is because some of the imbalances that you have going on have been so much a part of you for so long that you won't be able to find those and release those.

1:20:29Yeah. 80, 90 % is good enough, right? It's, you know, as compared to zero for anyone to jump in. Yeah, it's a big improvement over zero. Really? So you used the word, is your liver happy? And I normally, you know, end our conversations with the question of happy, because it seems to me that there is a very strong link here. When you talk about emotional traps or physical pains and so on, there is a massive relationship between that and our state of happiness. But have you used the method to look at happy? What is happiness to you? How do we achieve happiness? in light of your holistic practice?

1:21:12Well, to me, I think that happiness is a state where ideally all of your organs, all of the parts of your body are functioning optimally. None of them are suffering. None of them are in a state of discontentment. They're actually happy too because it all kind of combines together. And to me, being happy means finding your purpose and living that purpose in your life and aligning yourself with the energy that created everything. And being in a state, I would say, of flow as much as you can be. I think that there are a lot of aspects to it. In the Emotion Code book, in the very last chapter, we talk about what you can do to stop yourself from creating new trapped emotions, from picking up more emotional baggage.

1:22:13And it goes along with this. One of the things we talk about in the book is the idea of forgiveness. I believe that in order for you to really truly be happy and be at peace, you have to forgive people. You have to forgive the people that have hurt you. And maybe most importantly, you need to forgive yourself. Because, you know, and I quote Lewis Smedes, who said that forgiveness is like setting the prisoner free only to find out that the prisoner was you. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. So, you know, human nature is such that we withhold forgiveness in an attempt to get even with whoever hurt us. But in reality, it's only blocking our own progress and stopping us from being happy, right?

1:22:59Yeah. From being at peace. So that's one thing. There are some other ideas too. I think that gratitude is probably our most unutilized superpower. Gratitude is so, so, so powerful. And they've done many studies that have shown that, that if you're in a state of total gratitude, I mean, your blood chemistry changes, all kinds of things shift for you. And gratitude is something that we can learn to have. And there's the old saying that we should count our blessings, which sounds almost kind of trite. But inevitably, when you start to do that, when you actually start to make a list of the things that you have that you can be grateful for, pretty soon what happens is you start noticing other things that you can be grateful for.

1:23:47They tend to pop up more easily. And then you start to shift into this different kind of existence where you're on a higher level of vibration. And then ultimately, I'll tell you what I really believe ultimately, and I think it's all about unconditional love. When people die and they go to the other side and they come back, sometimes they do, that's one of the things they talk about. They talk about how they leave this world and they're in this other place and they're in this space of unconditional love. There was a video that I saw once. It was an emergency room doctor talking about this. And he said that when people die and they flatline, only about 15 % of the time are they able to bring them back and revive them and resuscitate them.

1:24:34He said 85 % of the time they're gone. He said one day in the ER, they brought three people back. It was very unusual, but But what was even more unusual, and this day actually ended up changing his whole life, he said that every one of these three people said the same thing. Essentially, they said, why did you bring me back? Exactly. Right? Why did you bring me back? He brought me back here. Yeah. But they all basically, in the same more or less words, said that for the first time in their whole life, when they went to the other side, they felt totally accepted. Oh, isn't that interesting? Yeah.

1:25:17And I've thought about that a lot, you know, and, and I've realized that total acceptance is really the fruit that comes from unconditional love. And so many, I love listening to these, these near death experience stories. I've listened to a lot of them. And, and that's one of the things that they all say is that it's just unconditional love. There's no judgment. It's just perfect love for them. And so I believe, and see, when they're, when they have a life review, if they're ever asked questions, and sometimes they are, they're never, ever asked, how big of a house did you live in? Or how fancy of a car did you drive?

1:25:59Never. Instead, they're asked questions like, how much knowledge were you able to gain in the world? but more importantly, how much love were you able to develop? How much were you able to love your fellow beings, see? And the apostle Paul wrote about this. He said that if I can do all kinds of miracles and if I have all knowledge, and if I can do all these amazing things and have all these honors and everything else, if I don't have this pure unconditional love, that ability to love others unconditionally, then it's all in vain. None of it matters at all. And so, I think that that's really one of the highest purposes of our existence here is to learn how to love others unconditionally.

1:26:42And it's so fascinating. There was a book that I read by a guy named Dr. Mel Fish called The Power of Unconditional Love, which I highly recommend. And he tells a story in that book, since we're talking about happiness, it's all kind of tied together, right? He was a school teacher in high school. He was a high school teacher. And he said that one day it was a brand new class and it was kind of, it looked like it was going to be a tough class. At the end of the class period, there was a young man who stayed behind and he said, Mr. Fish, this is going to be a problem. He said, the big Samoan kid, he's the leader of the Samoan gang.

1:27:23And the Mexican guy, he's the leader of the Mexican gang at school. He said, this is going to be a problem because they hate each other. And so Mr. Fish rearranged the chairs the next day, got there early so that he could be sitting in a position where he could see everybody coming into the classroom. And as they filed in one by one, he silently said to them, I love you. And I bless you that you'll have a great day. Right. And he gave double helpings of that to the two gang leaders. so a few days go by right a few days go by and all of a sudden at the beginning of this class the simone kid stands up and there's a girl sharpening her pencil he says susie sit down and then there's a couple of guys talking says jim bill shut up and then he turns to the teacher and he said mr fish you can start now right and so what happened was so the class was amazing he said.

1:28:17And then about 20 years later, he ran into one of these high school kids that he had taught in that class. And it was at some kind of an event. And this guy comes up to me, he says, are you Mel Fish? He said, yeah. I said, I was a student in your class in high school. He said, I want to ask you something. He said, I don't remember much from high school. He said, I don't remember really much at all. But he said, I can remember your class. He said, I remember that I could go to the school right now and I could find my way with no problem to your classroom. And I could find my way to the seat that I sat in.

1:28:53And I could sit in that seat right now today, after all these years, he said, why do you think that is? He said, I've talked to other people who were in the class. He said, we all have the same kind of feeling. He said, why do you think that is? And he said, well, do you think it's because you knew that I loved you? And he said, yes. He said, that's it. He said, we all knew. We all knew that you loved us, see? So you think about how powerful love is and how really it's just this ultimate force. I think it's why we're here, really, and why we have these bodies and everything has been created for us.

1:29:30Because I think that that higher power is nothing but love for us. Nothing but love and total admiration for us. and you know um it's interesting because you can use that to shift your own state so quickly i had an experience where uh this was kind of interesting it was it was the beginning of the pandemic do you remember when people were having a hard time finding toilet paper yeah yeah well my wife and i were at costco we were shopping man you could just sense the panic and the air and people were racing around with their carts, you know, and everybody had a grim look on their face. And I could feel this sense of kind of dread and panic.

1:30:11And that kind of, you know, that energy is kind of contagious. And I started picking up on that and started feeling that energy. And I thought, wait a minute, I don't want to go here. I don't want to go here. No way. So what I did is I just started as I was going around in my cart, I would just look at total strangers and just silently say, I love you. Right. And, you know, it didn't take very long, you know, three, four, five people. And I'm at the top of the vibrational scale, right. For the rest of the day. And so happiness, I think is, is a composite of all these things. And I think it's, it's also living, not, not really for yourself, because if you're centered on yourself, then there's always going to be room to be unhappy.

1:30:57But if you're centered really more on other people and serving them and trying to find what you can do to help that other person or those other people to function better and have better lives, then there's more of you to go around. It's kind of how I look at it. That's a brilliant way to look at it. As a matter of fact, there is no selfishness in happiness. I believe that you're absolutely spot on. It is unconditional love that actually gets us to the top vibration, to the top. I rarely ever use the words vibration or energy because I'm a physicist. So our definitions of those are slightly different than the spiritual definitions.

1:31:36But it really gets you to your top shape, to how you are supposed to be. Because if you assume that the divine is pure love, and all spiritual teachings, especially Christianity, of course, brings that to the surface very strongly, Sufism as well. You know, if you assume that the divine is the source from which you came from in your non-physical form and that there is a majority of love there or it could be pure love, then by actually tuning into that love, you eventually are going to be who you're supposed to be. Your balanced resonance, if you want, is found in that. And I think even the most egocentric, the most hating of all of us, when they look deep inside, beyond the physical conflicts we have in this world, there's very little to hate, honestly.

1:32:31There is so much to love about every other person, including their struggles and confusion and what they're going through. And when I listened to you in our conversation today, there is so much hidden within each and every one of us that if you had the same within you, you'd probably be behaving exactly like they do, right? If you had the same pains or the same trapped emotions or the same traumas or the same toxins in your body, I mean, it's so eye-opening that there could be so many of those and we're not even aware of them, or at least we're not allowing our subconscious mind to tell us about them.

1:33:07and you know if if you had all of any of what they had you would behave you would be behaving like they are behaving so you might as well love them for attempting to do what they're doing basically i i really don't know how to thank you enough this has been a wonderful conversation yeah this has been really fun yeah and uh and i have i have to say you left me with a lot of curiosity about about lots of things lots of answers but lots of questions to be honest I'm very, very intrigued. I'm telling all of my listeners, I will be listening to The Body Code before I read it because I'm on the road quite a bit now.

1:33:43And I encourage everyone to do the same. Maybe we can exchange notes around that. It seems to me that there is so much in us that we are not fully aware of and we don't really take the time to stop and investigate what those things are. Dr. Bradley Nelson, I thank you very, very, very much. I ask everyone to look at your work and I'm really very very grateful for your kindness today for all that you shared. Well thank you Mo so much for having me on and giving me a voice to be able to get this information out to people because people need to know that the answers lie within them and we're on the verge of a very exciting new time I think in the history of the world where these understandings are going to become commonplace.

1:34:28I hope so I really do and for all of you listening, I think there is a hidden code that so many of us need to start paying a lot more attention to. As we discussed today, you may not really need to wait until you're broken. You may want to start talking to that code to understand how you're actually functioning. And yes, of course, I will always bring you back to what I keep advocating for you to be able to do that. You need a little bit of slowing down because our world at the pace at which it's going is not allowing us the time to do any of this. So regardless of how busy you are this week, try to get an hour or two to connect deep inside and to slow down.

1:35:15I love you all for giving me the opportunity to have a conversation with such amazing, diverse set of committed people, people who are committed to make our world better. And I love you all for listening, and I will see you next time.