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20:36Courtney Miller:See, it's an interesting thing of us working on a comedy YouTube channel is that if I break a tooth. You'll use it. I know that I'm like, hey, this is going to help me. This is going to amplify what I do. If we film something here and someone has a chipped tooth, I'm like, hey, man, you're going to get all the attention because you look funnier than us. Maybe you should step out. You immediately step out. You're going to make us look bad. I need to break my teeth. Oh, my God. I think there's some red flags here. Amber, the wife, or Amber, the fiancee, is talking a lot about how this wedding is hers.

21:15Courtney Miller:She doesn't really seem to be thinking about how the wedding is a joining of two people and viewing her husband as a team member. Also, if you're literally leaving your partner's place and staying somewhere else in the days leading up to a wedding, it's like, maybe you should delay this. This is not the grounds for a solid wedding. It seems like she cares more about the optics, more about the wedding versus the marriage. Like she just wants to get married to have the wedding. Right. And this beautiful vision. And it's like, that's not what it's really about. Right. It's such a privilege to be able to have people you love stand there next to you and support you.

21:57And like the fact that his family's all on good terms, like this is the ideal day. And you're going to kick her out because she's maybe a little rough around the edges right now. People are not your aesthetic to like. That drives me nuts. I literally just had a story where someone asked her bridesmaids only because she thought they were all ugly. None of her best friends were included. See, and this bride's doing the opposite. The bride wants everyone to look like supermodels apparently. Insane. Insane. People need to stop losing their minds over weddings. Right. As someone that's planning a wedding, it's not that serious.

22:31And we really objectify the idea of everyone's position sometimes. Like that, where it's like, I'm going to select people that are not as pretty as me intentionally, regardless of how much I care about them. Like, whoa. Yeah, no, it's baffling.

22:45Courtney Miller:It's also shocking just with the wedding of how much people are thinking about other people. I'm like, what are you, like, you're not focused on the person you're marrying? I also think there's the added layer. This would be just as bad if it was Amber's sister. But it's Amber's sister-in-law. And she's making this decision for her husband of your sister's not invited now. And it's like, did you consider how important that is to him to have his sister there? But she's like, no, you don't need to make that decision. She's going to not stay with him because she's mad at him. There's like a compromise here if you did want to compromise with someone like this.

23:21But I'd be like, okay, cool. She's not going to be your bridesmaid. She'll be on my side. Fuck yeah. She'll be on my side. That's how you could work around that. but I think the flags are there. The sirens are glaring. You might have to lose some deposits and run from this one.

23:38Courtney Miller:All right, some comments here. I'm scared. I'm scared. So this was posted literally yesterday as of reading this. Look at you. So there's no verdict yet, but most ruling towards not the asshole, but some saying everybody sucks here. Interesting. It's interesting. I'm curious. Yeah. I'm curious the take. comments notice she asked if her injuries would affect the wedding before asking about her future sister-in-law's well-being red flag concerned about the optic 3.4 thousand upvotes someone said this she needs to realize that her wedding day is just the very very beginning of a relationship not just with you but with your family treating your family ill from the start is not wise on her part she needs to show more compassion and humility someone said a decent photographer could turn Luna into a giraffe bruises are nothing Amber is way too image obsessed, and if this isn't unusual behavior for her, I'd certainly be rethinking if OP wants to be in their life from now on.

24:34Courtney Miller:Maybe telling Amber not to come back or to the venue until she corrects her attitude might be the wake-up call she needs. Someone said, someone said, not the asshole. Excluding someone over a broken nose is beyond ridiculous. I get it. She wants it to be a perfect image, but newsflash, life isn't always perfect. Weddings aren't meant for the aesthetic. They're supposed to be showcasing your love for your partner with your family and friends. Okay, so lastly, someone said everyone sucks here. Your sister is prone to have little accidents. She's carefree. And while she doesn't care how she looked at her wedding, your fiance obviously cares.

25:07Courtney Miller:Your fiance even called it and informed your sister about the consequences if she's going to be injured. Your sister didn't care, wasn't careful enough and knew the consequences. She's the asshole for this. Your fiance is the asshole for the way she phrased it, as if the pictures are more important than a good time. She's also an asshole for demanding that you tell your sister your fiance should inform her she's fired as a bridesmaid Not you. I know it's a hard situation for you But you should inform your sister that she was warned and now the consequences are not being a bridesmaid this situation is not I had an accident and I'm so sorry.

25:40Courtney Miller:It's well You told me I shouldn't do it, but I still wanted to and now I'm injured, but I don't care. You should just accept it I Don't know how I feel about that because it because this, for one, this accident wasn't her fault. It's not like she's going out, jumping into pavement face first. She's in private security. She's like helping people. But someone just opened their car door. Like how do you plan for someone opening their car door as you're peacefully riding your bike? She had the helmet. She had the gear. Yeah, I'm thinking about, okay, so any scenario where she was injured would have been bad.

26:14Courtney Miller:So if someone at her job assaulted her, would that count in the same category? It sounds like it. It sounds like she's just saying, you're not allowed to be injured for this. I don't understand. Accidents happen. Yeah. And Photoshop also happens. And Photoshop also exists. Photoshop, that is such a great point. Like get over yourself. I guess I understand. The comment isn't necessarily, the comment is still seems to say that the fiance is the bigger asshole here, but I don't know. I just don't think that logic works for me. No, because it's as if she was trying to set a boundary like that people need to walk on eggshells and be careful not to get injured for my, like how do you, how do you, I don't think there is a right way around this person.

26:57Like this person expects everyone to kind of cater to how they want their life to be regardless of how realistic it is. Like, hey, don't get injured. It's like, okay, I'll try. Like, why are you gonna hurt me? Like, what am I, how can one prevent life? Not everyone can be Adam Sandler in a bubble. Like that just doesn't, it's not reasonable. And we talk about like boundaries and like you can only create a boundary involving yourself. You can't dictate what other people are doing. So it's like it's kind of an unfair ask. And I think that comment you read, Shane, where they were like, they didn't even ask if she was OK.

27:31Just if she looked messed up, like that speaks volumes, too.

27:36Courtney Miller:Was that a Bubble Boy reference? Yeah. Might have been. I regret to inform you that was Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, what the heck? That's OK. I dig Dylan Hall so cute and I got the reference. I was like, honestly, could you? It's a good reference though. I was like, I bet there's some movie where Adam Sandler's in a bubble, you know. Probably. Adam, I'm putting you in a bubble and that's fine. Grown Ups 4, where are we at? Yeah. Where are we at with that? All right. Our next story. No update. No update. It's too recent. It was yesterday. They're literally hot off the press. I know, I know. It was fresh.

28:08I'm not okay. Sorry. It's torture being on the other side of this. It's no update. Sorry.

28:15Courtney Miller:All right, our next story comes from Relationship Advice. It's a 26-year-old woman. My husband, 29-year-old man, thinks it's a crime that his best friend, 29-year-old man, bought me boots for my birthday. Need advice. My husband's best friend has sort of been adopted into our household after breaking up with his partner four months ago. We've always been extremely respectful of emotional and physical boundaries. The only thing that might have been a bit cozy was that I already cook for everyone. It just felt natural to extend that to him. Friday was my birthday. His mate got me new boots. I didn't realize it at the time, but it would have cracked the$600 mark.

28:53Whoa.

28:54Courtney Miller:Which is a lot, but considering the context, months of going out of my way to make sure this man who is important to my husband didn't drown. I already had an eight year old pair of the same exact boots. He would comment on them being worn out. God forbid he wanted a meaningful way to say thank you. I didn't even realize I wasn't supposed to be happy and grateful until the tension. When I went to bed and left both of them down there, it was probably the most insane blow up I've ever overheard on my birthday. Now I'm stuck between trying to defend this guy from my husband and not looking like I'm siding with his mate while he has such a warped idea of the situation.

29:29Courtney Miller:I've known them both for six years and this feels like somehow the breaking point. It's so stupid I could cry. Whoa. Okay. Oh, there's a lot to unpack here. There is a lot to unpack here. I do think this type of scenario could be the basis for some drama. Boots is a weird one,$600. It's not about the boots. $600 is a lot. Like there's a lot of gifts that if a friend got like a partner, you'd be like, whoa, why'd you get that for them? Yeah. I guess I almost feel like I need to see these boots. Well, it's also, that's gotta be a struggle of if his buddy got his wife like a far more expensive gift than he got his own wife.

30:14Courtney Miller:You can see how he's like, he's feeling insecure. Yeah, or thoughtful. Like granted a lot of money, but she's had these boots for eight years. Clearly attached to them, clearly loves them, maybe hard to find. So the buddy going out, spending this much money buying these boots, it's kind of like a, I see you OP. Yeah. I see you. It's if depending on the boots and the love behind the boots, it could be a really intimate gift. And the husband's like, you see that? And I didn't get her something that nice? Ooh, do you have a crush on my wife? You got a crush on her? There's something like, because you don't have a blow up over boots like that.

30:53Boots are like, yeah, I guess it's an interesting spot to be in because it's not like a dress, but it's not like a gift card to Chili's, you know? So it's kind of closer to the dress. You know what I'm saying?

31:07Courtney Miller:The price point is interesting, but it's like I kind of want to see that. That's what I mean where I'm like, what do these boots look like? Okay, so we got some information. The husband got a heated blanket and her favorite perfume. Which could have been expensive. Could have been expensive. I mean, oh my God. Some of those are insane. Like$4.50. That's why you buy the boots. And perfume's a very intimate gift, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah, they are. If someone gets that for someone, it's like, okay. Blanket's even more intimate. What happens under blankets? I'm curious though. I don't know. See, here's where I need more context.

31:37I'm like, was this like a perfume from like, I don't know, box store? It was 30 bucks. It's a spritzer and the heated blanket was like, you know, clearance rack, you know, winter's over. Like, what are we working with? Because then it's like, the boots are so thoughtful. Yes.

31:53Courtney Miller:Yeah, and this is his friend. Yeah. This isn't like her like childhood friend or longtime friend. It's his friend, but he's been kind of taken under their wing for the past four months. Bad breakup. After a bad breakup. Yeah. He's just been living with them. He's financially okay, though. Like, it's not like he was... I'm not entirely... Right, that's what I'm saying. It's a little confusing. There's not a ton of information in this story. Okay. But these comments might shed some more light. So some comments. Someone said, too little information about the arrangements you two have with this guy about his living situation.

32:24Courtney Miller:Is he a guest, or does he pay some bills and his necessities? Does he have a job in the first place? OP said, he works with my husband. He stays at his parents on weekends and us midweek. He pays the utility bills. Someone else said, it's a bit pricey for the relationship and seems to outshine your husband, which is concerning. It's a discussion your husband needs to have with his friend. Nothing for you to do and nothing you did wrong. Someone said,$50. Okay, nice gift. Thanks. That's awesome. $100 gift. That's some red flag stuff, but maybe I can understand. $600, massive red flag. Why is my best friend spending that much on my wife and she's okay with it?

33:02Courtney Miller:Lastly, someone said, as an old married guy, my advice is to get this guy the fuck out of your house and your marriage. Wow. See, I get that. It would definitely give the husband maybe some reason to feel insecure and like, is something actually going on? Because it is an intimate gift. It's expensive. Like, am I missing something? $600 is wild. I know, but gosh. It definitely draws some thoughts. So there were some other posts where I guess they clarify it wasn't a financial thing like they took him under their wing Kind of more just like oh Going through a bad breakup. We don't want him by himself Right.

33:37Yeah, that's a good friend. Which is fair But also it kind of brings it back to the tone of like I can see why the is it husband husband would be upset like You came here because you're from a breakup. You're heartbroken You're putting this toward the woman in your life right now who's there? it's interesting to hear that he's like part time at two different places maybe to give them some privacy on the weekends like as their parents on the weekends

34:03Courtney Miller:it's just it's only been four months that they've like this arrangement four months but four months and then a$600 gift which you think about it like how much money he's saving on rent basically getting a private chef with her cooking meals for him but it is still kind of like hey like you're kind of shitting in my Cheerios guy. Like this is, this is my wife. At the very least, maybe he could have run it by and been like, hey, I really want to thank you guys. I feel like this would be a cool gift that I could do to just, but just letting him know. But this was a surprise to the husband as well.

34:42Courtney Miller:I'm so curious about the fight. If I'm getting that level of gift for someone who's not, not you, I would be like, I would need to run it by and make sure nobody else is getting them that gift. It's like, I'm spending$600 on a pair of boots that this person has a worn out pair of. Is the husband thinking about getting these boots? Yeah. You would want to think about that, but he didn't. I don't know. It's definitely, there's a lot going on here. Yeah. And so this guy, he's the husband's friend, right? That's the original. So like, though OP, she's been there and known them both around the same amount of time.

35:17She said she's known them both for six years. She's known them both for six years, but it sounds like it's his. She's his partner. so it's like he invited his buddy into his home and it's also her home but it's like the connection is them two. Why is he doing that? And if it's a thank you to both of them it's boots for Mary.

35:36Courtney Miller:Yeah. So I don't know. This is textbook messy. I like it. What if he does? What if he is out there being like I think she deserves better than the husband. Is there some love actually happening? We don't know. What? No update. What the? It was posted yesterday.

35:58Why is he doing this to us? I can't believe you did this to us. I can't believe you did this to us. Go look at the account right now. That completely caught me off guard.

36:05Courtney Miller:That was really funny. I've never done that to him before. Ever. I just wanted to do it. I hope our audio only listeners. That sounded awful. It would be fun. You just took him out. For people who are just listening to this and not without video, Courtney threw the poof. I threw a poof at my husband. She threw a poof at me and it made me poof. Am I the asshole for throwing a poof at my husband? No, that was really funny. Yeah. No, not the asshole. It was very funny. I'm trying to put myself in this situation, right? Courtney, I'm trying to picture this. The problem is, the problem is like, there's so many friends.

36:41Courtney Miller:I don't think this is out of the realm of possibility of like a friend giving you these gifts. It's just different context because I'm just like, I don't know. I'm picturing everybody else at Smosh, and I'm like, I don't think I would think much of it. But we have such a different situation. Yeah, it's tough because it's like, I'm trying to picture, and also, like, all of your friends are girls, so it's like, like. Yeah, it's like, okay, like. Give me the boots. Green flags for me, yeah. I'm like, yes, thank you. Good taste in boots, please. Don't get in between Courtney getting her boots. But I don't know, but I also could see it being like a, if it was a surprise gift, and someone got you a$600 thing, and I didn't know about it and I'd be like, oh shit, maybe my gift sucks now.

37:22Courtney Miller:I could see that being a thing. It's tricky. I think this situation specifically though is so tricky. It doesn't need to be though and this is where people on Reddit just need to learn how to communicate a little bit. Ask him, hey, why did that make you feel a certain way? Did it make you feel insecure? Can you open up and tell me Like, is there something I don't know going on? Like, maybe it is a little love, actually. Maybe the friend, six years ago when they met, they sat at a bar and friend said, Dibs, husband's the one that actually got her. Like, we don't know the full context here. And maybe she's blissfully unaware.

38:01But like, maybe there is some other tea there where it is messy and he does have a crush. And so the husband was like, too far. Back off. Blew up. Yeah, I'm trying to picture being in OP's situation of like receiving a gift that's so expensive and it's like apparel, especially like from like someone like in that dynamic, it feels, I would feel like, I think I would be a little bit taken aback. I mean, oh, and then like if they were expensive, I'd be like, how did you get these? Because I'd want to know like, oh, did you find them at Nordstrom Rack versus paying the full price at wherever? Right, because that matters to me to like, because I care about being grateful to equate, you know.

38:41If you had a guy friend who bought you something, like, how do you think it would go? I feel like my fiance Justin would be like, hey, Morgan loves her clothes. I know. She doesn't have to buy them. A win is a win. I feel like that's kind of hard. We're just like, we're chill like that.

38:56Courtney Miller:I think it's like the trust that you have between each other, like to not jump to making those things. I'm also someone who like, in every step of the way, I'm always like, oh, how does this come across? So I want to make sure that my partner feels comfortable, that they're not going to think about anything. Because I've been in situations in the past where I was thinking all those things, you know, where you're insecure. And so I'm not saying she needs to think about that every step of the way, but I feel like these dots are easily connected. Exactly. And she could go, oh, I could see how he'd be a little insecure.

39:29Courtney Miller:I need to just go talk to him and tell him, like, there's nothing to worry about. Yeah. I will say, too, again, depends on the boots, but, like, there was a story a while ago where someone's guy friend got her like a first edition book and it turns out this book was like three grand or like 2 ,500, like some crazy thing. Boyfriend had a problem, they fight about it and it did turn out that that guy had feelings. Oh. Yeah, I mean, three grand? It was a bougie book. Holy crap. Bougie book. And a book is like, that's like a collector's item. I can even see that being like a step away intimacy wise in terms of like maybe everyone in this situation is all doing financially well.

40:10Yeah. You know, we don't know necessarily like.

40:13Courtney Miller:We don't have a lot of context on this one. Yeah, like what if$600 is like nothing to them? We don't know. It's like buying a coffee. I know, right? Totally. Yeah. Maybe not. It's definitely, I think it's definitely a story where in some context, this is nothing. Yeah. We just don't know. And I do think in a lot of contexts, this is something. What if he gave her the shoes and she's like, oh my God, he's like, yeah, why don't you take those shoes off? Let those dogs out. Put the new boots on. Put the new boots on really slowly. I don't know why I tried to make it a foot thing. I tried to make it a foot thing.

40:45I'm sorry.

40:46Courtney Miller:It's like we get an update. It's like, yeah, he's a foot guy. Yeah. He actually bought me the new boots so he could smell. Oh my God. He wants the old boots. He wants the old boots. That's the whole reason he did it. No, it's not. We have no update. I'm so sad. I know, I'm sorry. I'm gonna literally go sign up for post alerts from the account after this. I think that one is the messiest as far as a situation goes. That's messy. That is. Okay, our next one comes from Dating Advice. Some people like working twice as hard just to stay right where they are. And in Ohio, we really don't get it. Because to us, owning a home in your 30s, working in tech without the traffic, and still being able to make it to your kid's soccer game?

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42:41Courtney Miller:California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California finance law license, NMLS number 1353190. Klarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points. Limitations, terms, and conditions apply. I went on a date with a girl, hit it off with her friend. Love, actually. Okay, Ted Mosby. Like, what? Yeah. Yeah. Messy. I met up with a girl at a bar with her friends. Our first time meeting. The girl I met up with and I had fun. Kissed a little, was fine. But her friend and I really seemed to connect. She was with a guy but said they'd only hung out twice. Now the girl I met up with wants another date, but she said she's going out with a lot of people right now and doesn't really know what she wants.

43:24Courtney Miller:I don't know if I want to waste my time with that. Is it fucked if I follow her friend on Instagram in hopes of a follow back so I can DM to grab a drink sometime. Of course, the worst she can say is no. And her friend that I went out with would stop talking to me. But I need you people to help me ignore my moral compass here to make the move. Thanks. Ignore my moral compass. I need help. I need bad advice. Let me be bad. Here's my thing. And I gotta say, like, when it came to dating, I always sucked at it. I rarely dated. I hardly had any experience. I never had a situation where I like was remotely close to this, right?

44:05Courtney Miller:So from my outside lens, I'm also of the opinion of just like, hey, it was one date, like you're showing up like, these are all strangers. You don't technically owe anyone anything. That's true. Look, if I was on a date with a girl and she came and hung out with a group of people and then she ended up liking someone else, look, would I maybe be pissed? Sure, but I'm also just like, I don't know you. I don't have to talk to you ever again. So it's kind of one of those low stakes things in my eyes. I know people have a lot of strong opinions when it comes to dating, but I guess I always had the view of just like, well, we just don't know each other.

44:42Courtney Miller:We're strangers. Yeah, I feel like if you're all so new to meeting each other, to have some kind of emotional claim already feels strange. So yeah, if I was in that situation, I don't even think I would be mad. I think I'd honestly be relieved just because of my anxiety. Like, whew, don't have to worry about that person anymore. Sure. Okay. But there's people pleasing of it all. I feel like OP's dealing with, like, people pleasing. Like, I think the best way to honestly go about this, if I was in their situation, is don't continue to pursue the original person. Because that's, then you're intentionally leading on to people.

45:16I would be honest. And you don't even have to go, listen, I actually really liked you at that one gathering. So I'd like to pursue you now. It's just, no, if you wanted to reach out and be like, hey, like, how are you doing? build a friendship first like and if that that that friend only saw that guy a couple times that's it seems like she she didn't have to volunteer that information sounds like she's seeing people she's dating she might be open to it yeah so that's that's how i would go about it and if you wanted to be honest with the original person you dated being like hey like i thought it was great but like i'm not feeling it like that no who do you like yeah like go after who you like Like it is early.

45:54It's the first date. First date. How old again?

45:57Courtney Miller:Uh, doesn't say. Doesn't say. So it's giving younger, like 20s. It's giving young. Early 20s. And so it's like, did you have to make out with the one if you already knew you liked the other? Maybe not. But hey, early on, you can't be sad if the first one doesn't want to see you again though if you ask out the friend. Right. Like just go after who you like. He does say the girl he met up with wants another date, but she said she's going out with a lot of people right now. There you go. and doesn't really know what she wants, I can't imagine she's gonna be like, how dare you? She's telling him. You doing what I'm doing?

46:29Courtney Miller:She's telling him I'm seeing other people. Yeah, it's all good. So I feel like she might be the type that's like, oh yeah, cool. Like that might even have been her saying, yeah, that was fun, but I saw you were kind of into her too, so I'm seeing other people too. Like kind of leaving that open in that sense. Oh, what a lovely, healthy dating life of people. It's just a bunch of people in a salad. It's giving kosher. It is. It's going to be kosher. It's good. It's kosher. And I'm usually like, hey, don't shit where you eat. But this is not serious. This was one brief date. Sounds like a double date.

47:02Very casual group hang setup. You're not going after your ex-girlfriend of two years friend. That's not that. This is one casual date.

47:12Courtney Miller:There's no emotional stakes. You don't mean much to these people. No. Because they don't know you. I would hope not. Yeah, I'd be a little concerned if they started freaking bringing down the hammer. We're like, what? Yeah. Some comments. It's not fucked up of you to try, but it will be up to them how they handle it. Depends how strongly the girl you went out with feels about it and whether she'd be cool with her friend giving it a shot with you. Risky, but if she's seeing other people, she might not care. Give it some time, though. Someone said, y 'all are giving horrible advice. They're both going to drop you when they realize what you're trying to do.

47:43Courtney Miller:If they have any ounce of loyalty to each other. Someone said, this happened to me. I went on a second date with a guy and he later met my friend. He was attractive, but I wasn't attracted to his personality. He hit it off with my friend and kindly texted me and asked if it was okay if he pursued my friend. He even offered to set me up with one of his friends. I declined his offer. He was nice about it, so I texted my friend and she was interested, so I gave him her number. They went on a couple dates and didn't work out in the long run, but it didn't bother me." Yeah, I feel like this is one where in his position, he's allowed to do what he wants.

48:15Courtney Miller:I agree that it's like, hey, depends on their friendship, their dynamic, what's going on there. That's in their core. You can only control yourself, shoot your shot. I do like that little bit of rules of engagement. Like, hey, appreciate the date. I know you said you wanted to grab a second, but I actually kind of hit it off with your friend. Would you be cool if I asked her out? It's like you're saying how it's kosher. This will only bother people as much as they want it to. You know, like, as much as you want your ego to be involved of like, oh, they want them instead of me, like, you can either let that bother you or not.

48:49Yeah. Right. Yeah.

48:51Courtney Miller:Update. What? Wow. Wow. Finally got one. Shane, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Wow. I'm shocked. She's going to throw the poof at me. I feel like you're going to say just kidding, though. I feel like this isn't real until I hear it. Yeah, psych. No, I'm just kidding. Can you imagine? I pull out a gun. Okay. A poof gun. Squirt gun. Squirt gun. Squirt gun. Squirt gun. Yeah. Update is three days later. Okay. I took your guys' advice and decided to do it the nice way. I asked the girl I'd gone on a couple dates with if I could grab her friend's number, since it seemed like me and the girl I originally went out with were looking for different things.

49:34Courtney Miller:She was talking about all the dates with other guys she had lined up. and I liked talking to her friend a lot. She said yes and gave me her friend's number and told me she would be happy to help. Said if I wanted any advice to let her know whenever I needed it. Yeah. These are girls girls. They're people's girls. Everybody's happy. Everybody's dating. Everyone will find their person. I love it. I then texted her friend, mentioned how I had enjoyed talking to her and would love to grab a drink sometime. She responded that she felt the exact same and would love to. From there, the texting was kind of dry, which had me confused.

50:04Courtney Miller:So I texted the girl I originally went out with, saying I appreciate her help, but it doesn't seem like her friend was interested. It was then that she revealed that it was her guy friend this whole time whose number she'd given me. They both then said some rather mean things and they seemed to get great joy out of fucking with me. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They catfish him? Wait, take it back. Take it back. So he asked for the friend's number. Right. She said, yeah, I'd be happy to. And if you need help, I'll, and then she gave his number to one of her guy friends. Oh, that's so mean.

50:36Okay. Diabolical.

50:38Courtney Miller:I responded, fair play. Ha ha, that's that. I shot my shot. Nothing else I can do. Not even mad. Just surprised people like this exist, especially in the late 20s. Oh, oh. Edit. I don't want this to be an opportunity for people to virtue signal to themselves that this will happen to them or that people are inherently evil. Always shoot your shot. I would and I will do it again. You can do it and so can I. I wanted to make sure that the vibe on this post isn't too negative. Love you guys. this guy's chill this guy's chill honestly get in the DMs him responding fair play haha probably pissed them off so bad they were like bravo wait so they both the girls didn't didn't wanna the other girls don't even know we don't even know see oh I want him to like he's gotta get in the DMs like maybe find her Instagram yeah get in the DMs can I say I don't actually think it's good if you're on a date with someone and you're going hey I'm seeing other people but she like to just give it as a preface fine but he was like yeah she was talking about all these other dates she has lined up but then she That's weird.

51:35Courtney Miller:Then she responds with all of this. I'm like, you're insecure. You're insecure as hell. Mean girl. Mean girl energy. That you can sit there and talk to your date about other people you're seeing, but then you're really upset when they might want to see someone else. And they ask respectfully. Like, if they try to ghost you or they do some slimy stuff and you want to do all this, sure. But he was respectful. He was just like, hey, is it cool? He said, hey, it seems like we're looking for other things. Yeah. Do you mind if I ask for your friend's number? and then she does this. Just a piece of shit.

52:06Just weird. I mean, maybe she's been, like, hurt a bunch of times in all these dating stories, and so she tries to keep you a little humble when she's dating you and going, yeah, well, I'm dating other people too, so you're not that important to me. So if you hurt me, it's not going to hurt me that much. But, like, also, like, what kind of act is that to, like, make this person feel bad by giving a guy friends a number? Like, what are you trying to say? What are you doing? They're bullying him in a sense. Like, it just feels like some weird catfish, mean psychological torture.

52:33Courtney Miller:It's a lot of effort. I'm just always blown away by people who put so much effort into things like this. Get a hobby. I'm just like, damn, dude, you have the time? I wish I had that time. Leave it alone. This is a first date. This is a one date. If you really don't like the guy and you feel weird about it, just tell him, oh, she's not interested. Just say that. Move on. This is so weird. I definitely think that's what it was. I don't think she's going on a bunch of other dates. I think she's trying to create this false sense of demand and she's so hot and blah, blah, blah. Like no one that actually has a bunch of dates lined up and has other options acts like this.

53:08This is mean.

53:10Courtney Miller:Yeah, it's not coinciding. Some comments. For anyone reading this, remember other people putting you down as a reflection of themselves, not you. I pity people who need to put others down to make themselves feel better. It really shows how little they think of themselves, which is quite ironic. Lastly, someone said, was anyone in the previous post ever a woman with friends? I don't understand how they think telling him to go after her friend was a good idea. It's so tacky to go on a double date and then ask the other friend out. What is everyone thinking? And they're still telling him to add slash message her on Instagram.

53:40Courtney Miller:Literal proof Redditors need to go outside. Do I need to go outside? I don't know. That one felt a little, we need to be a little more open minded to how life happens and how this was a very friendly, it reminds me of how there's, I think Hinge used to do, or Bumble. Bumble has done those singles events where they encourage that when you're using dating apps don't just try and go on the one-on-one dates make it a group date make it a group thing safer it can be more fun people can mix and mingle and like i think people should be a little bit more open-minded to those things because you're you should be following your heart and what you want yeah not how things are supposed to be done like obviously like don't break the law or whatever but it's like you're just like we're all trying to find love this is all love you know speed dating exists for a reason.

54:28Bumble did the meetups for a reason. Like, you can, like, literally speed dating, you're in the room, and you just go chair to chair to chair and meet how many people? Right. Like, come on. It was one first date, and I'm blown away. Yeah. I'm blown away.

54:42Courtney Miller:And there's nothing wrong with saying, like, these types of situations can hurt. Like, it can be like, oh, man, that sucks. Yeah, it might be an ego punch. But it's not always a reflection of of, oh, you're not good enough. It's like, no, their connection just was different. They're different people. Right. Because regardless, this guy now figured out that that one was not for him. Oh, yeah. In more ways than one. And late 20s, too. Yeah. Which love doesn't have an expiration date. There's no timeline of how you should do things. But you would think by that point she's a little more level-headed and mature.

55:14Courtney Miller:Well, it's childish behavior. Exactly. Like how she took that was childish. Yeah. That's so goofy. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a whole lot. I don't know. I hope he finds love at his... He's gonna be fine. Green flags. He sounds fine. Yeah, and honestly, I did want to have him go in the DMs, but, like, if that girl is friends with this one, maybe you don't even want to bother. Yeah, he doesn't need to. I'd be curious to see what the friend would say about her friend's behavior, though. Like, hey, I tried to ask you out, and just so you know, like, she kind of catfished me with one of your guy friends.

55:46Yeah. But I'd love to take you out for a drink.

55:48Courtney Miller:I almost wonder, yeah, if it's like, hey, she might, this friendship might be a red flag. Jealousy. Some people, their best friends are their biggest haters. Yep. Ooh. They all were almost so cool to me. You know what I mean? We were pumped. I'm sitting over here, round of applause. We were so pumped. And then the rug swept out from us. It's messy. It is messy. It's messy. Okay, our next story comes from Am I the Asshole. Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole?

56:24He's gonna have some PTSD from that. No, I'm ready. I almost threw it again. I'm ready.

56:30Courtney Miller:I'm gonna catch it next time. I'm sorry. I will catch it. Think fast. The next time you throw it, I'm gonna catch it with one hand. Ooh. Bet. I'm gonna throw it over this partition. Bet, bet. Ooh. Just you watch. Okay. Am I the asshole for making my sister's gender reveal cake gray because she wouldn't tell me the gender? Huh? Okay. I need to know more. Great. I, a 23-year-old man, bake as a hobby, and I'm actually pretty good at it. Like, I get paid under the table for weddings and baby showers kind of good. My sister is pregnant and wanted me to make the cake for her gender reveal. Cool, no problem.

57:09Courtney Miller:I asked her to send me the info so I could prep the inside classic pink or blue filling. She says, oh no, I want to be surprised too. Just make it neutral for the reveal and we'll all find out together. Huh? I was like, huh? Huh? So you want a gender reveal cake with no gender revealed. She says she'll have someone email the info to me later. That someone never did. Deadline comes and I still have no gender. So I make the cake, it's gray inside, gray outside, just full on cement vibes. I even added little fondant clouds for effect. It still tasted great, but visually, grim as hell. The reveal day comes, they cut into it and my sister looks pissed.

57:52Courtney Miller:Her husband is confused. People start murmuring. Then she pulls me aside like, why would you make it gray? That's so passive aggressive. I calmly reminded her that no one told me the gender. I literally had no data to work with. I told her I wasn't about to guess or go full improv on someone's baby cake. Now my mom says I embarrassed her in front of the family and that I should have tried harder. Tried harder to do what? Summon the gender through vibes? So am I the asshole for making the most neutral reveal cake in history? There's no way. Okay. I'm torn. Okay, here's my thought though. Is they never, nobody contacted him?

58:29Courtney Miller:He could have probably reached out and said, hey, nobody's contacted me. That's why I'm torn. Being like, before the party, been like, nobody's letting me know. But she said to make it neutral. That phrasing is, I also think he could have followed up on that and been like, what you're saying makes no sense. What's neutral though? Is it like white? Is it just a tan cake? Like neutral, yeah, neutral means glittering. People think denim blue is a neutral top. Mav. Mav. People call olive neutral these days. What's neutral? Switzerland. Instructions unclear. If I was in OP's spot, I'd be like, okay, so my cake has nothing to do with the reveal.

59:04You just want a cake that's there. And the reveal's happening in this email that you're mentioning that I, like, what? I think it was like more so like she didn't even want to know. She did not want to be tempted about having that email or that envelope. So it was like someone will email you. Someone will send you, if you need to make the inside, blue or pink. They never did. But I fully agree. Why not just follow up? That's so low effort. Just follow up. This is your sister's big announcement.

59:34Courtney Miller:It's been a minute since we've had weaponized incompetence. And this is a little bit of it. I guess the gray, I would be just so upset if I was expecting my brother to make me this beautiful cake and he gave me a concrete block. I don't care if it tastes good. I want a cute little cake, and you're expecting to cut and then get this thing. Is it kind of... Especially if they're, like, good at making cakes for a living. Yeah, she asked him. That was supposed to be so special. Yeah. But it is kind of on her. Like, I guess, like, they both could have followed up. Like, hey, did someone send you the email?

1:00:06Oh, you never got it? Oh, my God, let me follow up with that.

1:00:09Courtney Miller:But he's baking a whole cake. So he baked a whole cake, but didn't... He put in all the work of baking a whole cake, but didn't put in just the slight effort of just emailing, being like, hey, I haven't heard. Yeah. He didn't even say who was going to contact him. I know. I will also say, because I'm not, I don't, this is very interesting and messy. But sometimes cakes, they aren't going to be made really quick day of. No. They take time. What's the deadline? Lining up. I agree. There's a lot of ways that the cake maker could have done this better. They know what a pretty cake looks like that doesn't have to be pink or blue.

1:00:44I know that they potentially have a job that they said that they make cakes at a job and then they do their own under the table, right?

1:00:51Courtney Miller:This is a hobby. He bakes as a hobby, but he bakes stuff under the table and gets paid sometimes. So it's not his full-time job. I've seen Great British Bake Off, though. Those hobby bakers. Yes. Sometimes they're better than the real thing. I know. It's a lot of lack of communication on his part that I'm a little surprised by. I'm honestly surprised he made the cake because he was told someone is going to contact She said, someone is going to contact you and tell you the gender. Nobody contacted him. It would have been better for him to not make it and been like, nobody let me know. That's true.

1:01:23Courtney Miller:But instead he makes it and then he has this whole surprise that he knows is not gonna make her happy because he knows that they didn't contact him. He almost wanted to embarrass them. I think I have a lot of, there's a lot, this is one of those where reading about it in this way, it's tough for me to like think about it because for one, we email a lot at our job and like there is a whole language to emails. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like emails are horrible or nice depending on so many things, right? Hard to tell to own. And I'm like, I kind of want to see these emails. I want to see this communication back and forth or the lack thereof.

1:02:00Yeah.

1:02:00Courtney Miller:But also I'm like, what's your guy's history? Like what's your relationship like? What's your history? What's your opinion? Because like when it comes to gender reveal parties, I think they can be silly, especially if people don't care about the gender. I know some people do. People do it for different reasons. Some people go over the top with them. It's possible. I think OP maybe is inserting their personal opinions into this cake too. Possible. People calling them passive aggressive for making the cake gray. Because gray is deliberate. Gray is not a normal color. No, and he in his own words said it looked like concrete.

1:02:39Yeah, okay. Who wants a concrete cake?

1:02:42Courtney Miller:He put a lot of work into a concrete, like, I'm fascinated to see gray cake. I want to see it too. I want to see this cloudy concrete cake. I kind of want it. I want a gray cake. Look, the only thing that's going to save this guy at this stage, to me, is if the baby later on is they them. It's like, all right, we clocked it. There you go, psychic. You know the child later on is like, hey, I'm non-binary, and this OP's gonna be like, yes. Yeah, yeah. Clocked it. I will say, though. But then they're like, my least favorite color is gray. And he's gonna be like, fuck. So close. I will say, though, like, out of all the ways, if you want to do a gender reveal, I like the cake versus starting forest fires with fireworks and stuff.

1:03:25Truly.

1:03:26Courtney Miller:You know, it's like cake, destroy Napa Valley. Yeah. Hard to know. Hard to know. I love a cake. Our baby's gender, apocalypse. Yeah. Or what if they find out that it's twins and now they're gonna have both? Oh. Pink and blue. And blue and pink, gray. What are they? Yeah. Depending on the icing, if you have a pink and blue icing, it kind of turns purple and browny gray. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. The verdict was asshole. Yeah. He was determined to be the asshole. Honestly, it does surprise me, though. You think so? A little bit. I could have seen, like, everyone sucks here. I could have seen everyone sucks here a little bit.

1:03:59Courtney Miller:Yeah. Look, bad communication just frustrates me. Yeah. Just in general. Because, like, but he, I think the ball was in his court is why I agree with this. Okay. I'm with it. Comments, you're the one making the cake if you can't do it because you don't have the relevant information. That's on you. Be pushy or cancel the job. Come on now, at least you could have made the cake white instead of gray. That was passive aggressive. You're the asshole. Someone said, why couldn't you have made it yellow and baby themed or something? It seemed pretty vindictive to make the cake a grim cement vibes for an important event where you'd be serving many more people besides your airheaded sister.

1:04:37Courtney Miller:I understand you were frustrated, but damn. She's pregnant. That's all anyone is going to remember from that event now, which was kind of you're the asshole. Someone said, yeah, just make a cake with the theme baby. Vanilla, chocolate, yellow, red velvet, green, purple, elephants, giraffes, balloons, toys, building blocks, a baby's face. Literally, the possibilities are endless. There was literally no reason to take a passive aggressive jab at your sister on her big day. So what? There was some confusion about whether they wanted the cake to be pink or blue. This is such a massive overreaction to a perceived slight.

1:05:11Courtney Miller:Grow up. Lastly, someone said, you're the asshole. I understand the frustration, but you could have told her nobody sent the info over and just made a cute baby shower style cake. It was, in fact, unnecessarily passive aggressive, especially crappy to do an emotionally fragile pregnant person on their special day. Communication sucked on both sides. Yeah, I'm like, if I followed up. Some people like working twice as hard just to stay right where they are. And in Ohio, we really don't get it. Because to us, owning a home in your 30s, working in tech without the traffic, and still being able to make it to your kid's soccer game sounds pretty good.

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1:07:23Courtney Miller:I don't even know how he did it. Yeah, I mean, if the answer's communication, that could have fixed this, like, come on. Yeah. It's that simple. Also thinking about it, it's probably the most embarrassing for him. You're this cake guy. You make this cake, and that's what you make. Yeah, none of those people are gonna hire you. No one's gonna give your hobby business any money. Cake boss was at this gender. You never know who's casting. Yeah. Also, the fact that, like, it's not like this is something he quick, like, appeared out of nowhere. He spent time, hours, and care on this gray cake. Like, there was a lot of time for a lot of decisions, you know?

1:08:03Courtney Miller:I've never baked a cake in my life. Really? I just realized that. I don't think I have either. Oh, you, oh my God. You two have a little thing to do. I guess I do. We made pies. We made pies. Pies are, I feel like, harder. Pies are harder. Okay. Just a cake? I don't know. I think it's because, I don't know, In LA, there's so many places where you get great cakes. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, why am I going to make one? There's like milk bar and stuff, you know? It's like. Suzy Cakes, coconut flavor. Exactly. No, whenever a cake comes into this office. Yeah. It's like, it's over. A cake hates to see us coming.

1:08:37Oh, same. Me? Ooh. Yeah. Watch out.

1:08:41Courtney Miller:Okay, our final story. I fell in love with my married neighbor, and then I babysat his kids. Now I'm questioning my feelings. Uh-oh. No. That one made me a little nauseous. No. And I bought the kids boots that were$5 million. Okay, so first of all, I'm new to Reddit. So sorry if there are any mistakes or something. There's no mistakes on Reddit. There's lots of mistakes on Reddit. Yeah. I obviously can't talk about this with any of my friends or my mom, but then I saw a Reddit post on TikTok, and I thought this would be a good place to talk about this. I'm also gonna post this in a couple of different places based on what came up when I googled best reddits to post on for advice So also sorry if this shows up multiple times Finally, I know you all are gonna judge me but at least try to understand my side.

1:09:32Courtney Miller:Thanks So i'm a 34 year old woman and seven months ago. I had a messy breakup with my long-term boyfriend So I moved in with my best friend and her husband in a house. We are all renting together It was then that I met my neighbor who I will call k He helped us move our stuff into the house and I was instantly smitten. We live in the suburbs of a major city, so we both ended up taking the train into work at the same time each day. I knew Kay had a wife and kids very early on. He talked about them often and pictures of them on his lock screen, social media, et cetera. However, it initially started out as a very innocent, silly crush.

1:10:08Courtney Miller:He is handsome, funny, and sweet. The first time we rode the train, he asked me about my job and seemed genuinely interested in what I was saying, which is something my ex never did and is something we fought over a lot. He is always doing things for his kids, like bringing home treats and stuff for them and staying on the phone with his older daughter the entire ride to work because she needed a pep talk before a school presentation. It was just so easy to imagine how lovely and attentive Kay would be with me because he is like that with everyone else. No. Kay has never said or done anything to imply that he has feelings for me yet.

1:10:45Courtney Miller:But we are genuinely... Please, no. She didn't emphasize yet, but she wrote it. But we are genuinely friends by now because we talk on the train, which is about a 20-minute ride, almost every weekday. I've never had the trouble of getting attention of men, and with this basis we have already, I know that we could easily become something more. Oh! I also learned shortly after I developed feelings for him that his wife is someone I went to school with, and I was surprised because they are polar opposites. He is funny. She is dry. He is exciting. She is cautious. He is a little dumb. She is very smart intellectually.

1:11:19Courtney Miller:Looks wise, this feels mean, but yikes. I just don't think that their personalities fit very well together at all. And I can easily see Kay getting stuck in a relationship because he's just so nice. Oh, no, no, no. The issue is that yesterday evening, Kay knocked on my door and asked if I could watch his kids for a bit. This was, of course, no trouble, and I said yes right away. He told me that his wife had gotten into a car accident while away on a business trip. And because she is pregnant, he was super worried and had booked the next flight out to go see her. They don't have any family in the state currently.

1:11:50Courtney Miller:So he asked me to keep an eye on them for a few hours while a family friend drove several hours to watch them at night. Now, this is where the issue came in. These kids were an absolute nightmare. There were three girls and the oldest was your typical bratty preteen times a thousand. She was rude and didn't respect my authority at all. arguing with me about everything from dinner to who had to clean up to what movies she was allowed to watch. I even heard her call me a bitch under her breath a couple times. The middle was rowdy and constantly wanted to play loud, messy games even when I told her no.

1:12:20Courtney Miller:The youngest was mostly sweet and quiet on her own but she joined in whatever drama the middle wanted to create. It culminated in me agreeing to play hide and seek with the younger two and ended up getting locked out of the house. When I went back and tried to convince the oldest to let me in through the back screen door she pretended she couldn't hear me and put her headphones in. Thankfully, the family friend arrived a few minutes later and let me in, and then I went home. This makes me sad because before now, I would often dream about being a stepmom to Kay's kids one day because of how highly he would talk about them.

1:12:50Courtney Miller:Now I want nothing to do with them, but at the same time, this is further proof that Kay and his wife are not happy because children from a happy home do not behave like this. Kay. She's never met preteens in her life. Oh, my God. I just want to have a relationship with Kay, but I do not know if it is possible because his kids and I would not get along. And this is even before a potential divorce where their mother could easily get them to hate me. I really love Kay, and I know that we could have a beautiful relationship if I pursued this, but this has really shaken me. I just wish I had someone to talk to about this, but everyone in my life would judge me.

1:13:26Courtney Miller:Hey, guys, it's me. For good reason. It's me, the Joker. And I'm really in love with Kay. Oh, my God. Still? She needs to pull her head out of the overthinking sand. I don't think there's any hope of that. My question is because kids are smart, did these kids just clock it? You never know. Do you think the kids knew? Do you think this was like a parrot trap situation? Like they put her on a mattress and pushed it out into the lake? It's giving normal. No, probably not. It's giving just what they're doing. It's giving maybe, okay. God, I have so much to say. Oh. Like, okay, yeah, no shit. This handsome, charming, emotionally available guy is married with kids because that's who he is.

1:14:09This is his life. Has nothing to do with you. He's not for you. He's not going on that train because he chooses you to get on that train. He's there because he has to go to work. He's gotta go to work. Like, she's reading into everything, and oh my God, I can't believe the delusion. That. I wish I could have David Attenborough's voice to just be like, this is a niche level of delusion you've come across out in the wild. Like, this is an insane level of delusion. You thought this, you typed it, and you still hit post. And yeah, that is a glimpse of what being a stepmom would be if you're going to be a home wrecker.

1:14:49Yeah, I mean... Good. I wouldn't doubt that, like, maybe people have tried to come for K before. Like, maybe women be sniffing around and the daughters are sick of it. Maybe that's why they clopped her. But, like, that's me overthinking as much as she does. This is a special kind of delusion.

1:15:06Courtney Miller:Like, we see delusion a lot on Reddit. This is scary. I think this is scary. It's possessive delusion. This is scary, scary delusion. I think if this was flipped and this was a guy, we'd be like, call the cops. Yeah, and I think it's borderline that level. I'm like, when you get this far where you're like, yeah, so when we get married and we have kids, I'm like, this is like stalker talk. It is, the way she's speaking for the wife and all these things, like, oh yeah, I knew her. It's really shocking because I know him and they're not the same at all. You don't know him. He's just being nice to you.

1:15:37Courtney Miller:He has his wife and kids on his lock screen, according to OP. I'm like, this guy is comfortable. There's a baby on the way. They're really so very intimate. I don't know, I have so many, I have theories on the kids because... I mean... She just goes for the kids. The kids! Sorry, sorry. Tell me about the kids, Shane. Well, okay. I'm just thinking, how did it get so bad so quickly? Because I'm like, if I had to go emergency watch some kids, I'm not gonna be trying to police them or parent them. I'm gonna be like, hey, I'm just here to make sure someone's here. I think she went over there and immediately was trying to become the step-mom.

1:16:13Courtney Miller:And I think that's why this intense reaction. Because it's just like, hey, this stranger's coming over to chill with you. I don't think most kids would freak out this hard. No, that's true. But I think she was like, oh, let's play games. Let's do stuff. I want you guys to like me. Try and call me mom. The worst thing you can do with kids of almost any age, but preteens, is to want them to like you. Yeah. If I was in that situation and I didn't have feelings for Kay, I'd be like, and the kids are being nightmarish, I would pull the card to me like, your mother is in the hospital. She is hurt. Do you want to be acting like a nightmare while your mother is in the hospital?

1:16:50I think that would make them calm down real quick. but she, of course, I'm like, she probably wouldn't want to bring up the mom because she's already deleted the mom from her own memory. Yeah. Like, oof.

1:16:59Courtney Miller:This is terrifying. It is really scary and I've seen a little too much true crime stuff lately but like people have committed murder to get the life they want and that's what this is starting to get and I think you're on the money. She must have gone in and done something and like really laid down the hammer because for the one teenager to call her a bitch, within a couple hours. No, I think you're dead on. She tried to go in and be step on. That's what I think about. It's more theories on her. I'm just like, this is a shocking situation. I mean, who knows? I mean, it's also very possible that he's all, I mean, I guess he could already be a little wary of her, but he's in a situation where he had no choice but can you watch them?

1:17:48Yeah, if he's choosing to stay on the phone with his daughter the entire train ride home, which valid if that was legitimate, but also like, it sounds like she's not very aware of how she's being perceived by other people. So he's like, okay, I think our neighbor is a little...

1:18:01Courtney Miller:While another friend drives hours to come stay with them. So he did not want her to stay with them. He's like, you're here only for a little bit until this family friend comes. Yeah. This is like, this is a standout as far as stories we've read here. Yeah. It's scary. This is another level. There's been a couple that have been really bad and this one's up there. Comments. Honestly, it doesn't sound like you love him. You romanticize him and have this fantasy life in your head. In your head, you act like he would drop his wife and run away with you. You justify this belief by saying his children are wild, so it must be an unhappy home.

1:18:35Courtney Miller:Meanwhile, you completely ignore the fact that his wife is pregnant and he dropped everything to go to her. You say the kids do not respect your authority. It sounds like they barely know you and suddenly you're in charge. You're not their mother and will never be their mother. You think you will have a beautiful relationship with Kay if you pursued him. No, you wouldn't. He has a family that he clearly loves. Just because he is nice to you doesn't mean he wants you. I encourage you to discuss things with a professional because this isn't healthy. OP responds. God, oh God. How do you know whether or not I love him?

1:19:06Courtney Miller:Are you inside my head? You can love someone before being in a relationship with them. And just like I don't know for sure that he loves me, you don't know that he doesn't. You never know until you cross that bridge. I know he wouldn't just drop everything and run away with me. There would be months and even years of divorce court, custody arrangements, etc. If he decided to leave his wife and before the comments come in, yes, I know there's no guarantee that he will do that. But Kay is a good, honest man. If anything were to happen between us, he would absolutely leave his wife because it wouldn't be fair to either of us.

1:19:38Courtney Miller:And he told me he believes very strongly in fairness. That's why I'm asking. I know this could be a messy situation if anything happened. I just want to know if his kids being difficult will make things worse if it does happen. I want to know if the potential pros outweigh the potential cons. This super sweet, honest, fair guy who will definitely leave his wife he promised to be with forever. That's not happening. What in the world? She's like, if and when is like really what I'm hearing. She's like so gone. If and when we cross that bridge. Ma 'am, there is no bridge. No bridge. You're looking across the Grand Canyon.

1:20:13Yeah. There's no bridge. No, it's really like I hope a lot of people see these kinds of stories where it's like where genders can be irrelevant to the dynamics of what's going on of like, hey, you are – just because someone happens to be around you a lot, is friendly to you. Is nice. That is not for you. Like I am a flirtatious person. Am I flirting with you? No. That's not for you. even if I'm just being nice. It can be taken as, you know what I'm saying?

1:20:47Courtney Miller:Yeah, he's married and he has kids. It's like regardless. Have some awareness of the facts that are laid out. Clearly a bad breakup. I know that was mentioned and moved in with her friend and friend's husband. And so the first nice guy she sees, she's imprinting upon like a little gosling goose baby. Like there's someone else out there for you and it's not him and you need to talk to somebody. I'm shocked she even posted on Reddit because I'm like, she's not going to listen to anyone. No. I'm fascinated so many times when people ask for advice that I'm like, you don't want advice. She just wanted one person to say go for it.

1:21:27Courtney Miller:And she's probably going to take that. She's clearly having a lot of conversations with herself about this. You know what I'm saying? Update. Oh God. Okay. There we go. One day later and it is a screenshot of a text exchange. No. No. He saw the Reddit post. No. He saw the Reddit post, I hope. Kay texts her. Blank and the girls are okay. Thank you for watching the girls. OP responds, of course. Anytime, smiley face. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Kay responds, thumbs up emoji. Kay then shares link to Reddit post. Oh. Oh my God. Kay says. K says, is this you? Because if it is, we need to talk.

1:22:14Courtney Miller:I promise you that I have absolutely no interest in leaving my family for you. I'm sorry if I ever gave you the wrong idea, but I don't see you as anything more than a neighbor. I don't think we should be friends anymore. Opie responds, wait, can I call you? Oh my God. Wait, let me shoot my shot though. Can I sing for you? Okay, wait, I think I hit it off with your friend. Can we talk? Wait, okay, so Kay found the Reddit post and sent it? I know it. This Reddit post had to have blown up and she also posted it everywhere. I'm stressed. Yes. She posted it on two hot takes. Oh, she posted it on my subreddit?

1:22:50Oh!

1:22:51Courtney Miller:If there's more updates, you'll have to cover it. Oh yeah. Oh man. I know, I can't go through this twice. So we found this from True Off My Chest, but she posted this everywhere, including two hot takes. Oh God, thank God I missed it. Wow. Didn't need that stress. Oh my God. Wow, bro. So she said nothing. She just posted the screenshot. Just posted the screenshot. Honestly? Oh my God. Surprised she posted it. Kind of embarrassing. I'm surprised she posted it too. But again, speaks to the disconnect. Yeah. Yeah, maybe she posted it to be like, look what you did. You guys ruined my chances. It's really tough.

1:23:24Courtney Miller:It's always shocking. These types of stories, I often go, oh, this isn't real. But it's a stark reminder sometimes of people like this exist. This happens. And there are people that are so delusional that they will post about it in such a public manner and not think twice about it. Right. No, I think it happens a lot. And this was a really important thing my therapist told me. It's like there are feelings and there are facts. And OP was treating her feelings having more weight than the facts, which is this person is married, more kids on the way, a loving home. Everything is good. This does not have you in the equation.

1:24:04Courtney Miller:Well, what's also, and this is, I think, a reflection of like, we all do this and it's really bad nowadays is you can prove yourself right endlessly. You can convince yourself of anything and prove it to be true by looking at everything that supports that belief without having any doubt in your mind. If all she had to do was take a look and go, what if I'm wrong? But she refused to because she's going, well, here's all these things that prove that I'm right. And, yeah, you can do that with anything. I mean, that's how we have people drinking raw milk right now. So what is up with that? And look, it was flat earth a couple of years ago.

1:24:38Courtney Miller:Now they're drinking milk. They're going to move on to something else soon. It's just really scary. It's it is. Um, you honestly though, there are people out there where like, you guys, we could have gone an update that instead was like, K saw the post and now we're having an affair. Yeah. I was really, I was honestly really worried. I'm like, I hope he really is a great guy. He's loyal to his wife. And he is, did the right thing. but that was messy but mess avoided. Happy ending in my book. Yeah. No other updates? No other updates. I'm sorry. Girl if you're out there. Yeah. Let us know. Where you at?

1:25:17Courtney Miller:Maybe that delusion's gone down. Maybe things really ended up better. Hey and you know I want to give her the benefit of the doubt bad breakup first nice guy. Really just we're going through it. Go to therapy. It will be good. You'll find your person. Fair. She hadn't taken any horrible actions yet. Just bad delusion. Posting on Reddit. Anyways, Morgan, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Make sure to check out Two Hot Takes. Incredible show. Thank you. Great stuff. You both have been on. Yes, we have. We have. Separately. It's a great time. We'll have to do a little double sometime.

1:25:55This was great. Nice. Yeah.

1:25:57Courtney Miller:Yeah. Make sure there's poofs there. So Courtney can throw that at me. No, it's okay. I understand. Yeah, you might be a little liability. Okay, yeah. You need to up the insurance up on there. Yeah, up the rider. Thank you both for being here. These were definitely messy. And thank you all for watching. And I hope none of this mess ever finds you. Aww. Yeah. As always, let us know what other themes and subreddits you want us to cover on this show. And we will see you next Saturday. Goodbye. Bye. Goodbye. This is Amy Brown from Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Back to school season always feels like a fresh start.

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