Gabourey Sidibe Shares Her Epic Last Meal & Why She Doesn't Trust Five Guys With Her Burger

0:00Hi, and welcome to Snacks, the podcast where we look at the crazy snack obsessions of your favorite stars. I'm Jo Saltz, the editorial director of Delish, and today we have someone who's so special that I absolutely cannot wait to get to our conversation. She's basically been in every show you love, Empire, Difficult People, The Big C, American Horror Story, and now she's directing. Please welcome Gabourey Sidibe. And we'll be right back.

0:31I'm so happy you're here. I feel like we've been through a lot in the last few minutes. I feel like we've come a long way. We have. I know. You're from New York. Yeah, I'm from Brooklyn. And so I have to ask, I mean, which, by the way, I mean, now is like a food mecca. Would you say that it was when you were growing up there? You know, the food, you know, okay, I'm from Brooklyn, 1983. Right, okay. Okay. Fair. uh today what i for years have been saying brooklyn now is like a whole foods yes like it's just like it's a different it's just a different version of brooklyn um i do remember food being really really good back then just because of all the like all the different cultures yeah and brooklyn jamaican and uh you know haitian and african and all of these different people and different nations coming together to make delicious meals for everyone yeah was that a big part of your growing up like in your home yeah i think so my dad is african yeah and so i remember i was thinking about this literally i've been thinking about this all week because uh we live near nostril avenue if you know brooklyn yes yes yes so we live near nostril that was our closest train stop and there used to be a i don't know if it's there anymore but there was a fruit and vegetable store and i kind of feel like they don't do fruit and vegetable stores exist anymore they don't There was one in Florida near where my grandparents lived, and I think it still exists.

1:58But I remember going to Florida to visit them and being like, what is this place? Yeah, because it's not a supermarket. No, no, no. It's just where there's produce. Yeah, it's not a bodega. No. It's just produce. That's when my dad would take us to go to get all of the stuff whenever he would make like jollof rice. Yeah. Whenever he would make chebby gin, which is my favorite Senegalese dish. What is in it? So it's fish. It's like a it's like a kind of spicy fish, a red fish over jollof rice, which is the, you know, the red rice. Yes. So he would get all of his vegetables there. And I've been thinking about it this week, especially because next door there was a voodoo shop.

2:39Wow. I wonder if that voodoo shop is still there, because if anything's going to continue to be there, it's the voodoo shop. One hundred percent. I mean, I'd like to think both survived, but I would say voodoo might out. voodoo in these days might out out out play fruits and vegetables unfortunately I know exactly but I was the tell me about the produce place though because the one I used to go to and they offered samples so you could like go and eat the fruits and veggies like as you walk through was that something or maybe that was just my grandmother stealing food she might have just been doing that too I think your grandmother's a criminal she was stealing grapes yeah there's more to address there did you did you ever have my grandmother used to steal grapes oh my gosh I mean yeah in the supermarket we would like but i feel like the rule was if we picked up a bag of grapes and you ate them while perusing the store you paid for them no she would like sample a grape i don't know i don't know if that's that's probably not appropriate yeah that lady stole yeah sorry grandma r.i.p but it's all coming out now she might be the reason why there are no fruit stands that might be anymore but they're not a business yes she also might be the reason that there's probably signs being like don't taste the grapes yes that could she could be her it's okay so let's go back to Brooklyn so what's that what was the neighborhood you grew up in from Bed-Stuy okay okay so what is the food that sends you back to your childhood it really is it's African food it's jollof rice it's yassa which is another West African meal it's what's in that so it's It's rice, but over it is chicken marinated in onions and garlic.

4:20And, you know, there's a little bit of a split. Some say lime juice and some say lemon juice. I personally do three lemons and one lime. Wow. And if I, like, I started, like, trying to cook it myself, and now I make it for my kids all the time and my husband. And every, I go, oh, this tastes just like my dad. this tastes just like Brooklyn. This tastes like my childhood. This tastes like I'm eight years old again. So it's always jollof rice, that kind of food sends me directly back. It's really nice to hear that your dad was the, like, was he the primary cook in us? No, he, my dad, my dad did cook a lot.

5:00I think he was trying to cook a lot so that I would learn to be a good wife. because i would literally have to he would make me stand on a chair in the kitchen and watch him cook so that i could and would be like this is how you're gonna be a good wife and then i i remember being like how come your wife isn't cooking like how come mom's not cooking this like why am i and also like you're the one cooking like are you a wife yeah yeah like the messaging was very confusing well did your mom cook she did cook she was the primary cook but she didn't cook African food. That was my dad. So what was your mom good at?

5:38You know what? She used to make really good macaroni and cheese. Homemade. Yeah, homemade mac and cheese. The whole process. We never ate from a box. Not macaroni and cheese. Damn it. No. She made really good fried chicken. She would make... I liked her cabbage. She would make sweet peas. And she would burn them a little bit. Wait, so what are sweet peas? They're just green peas. Green peas. Oh, just like peas. Yeah. But she wouldn't make them sweet. No, they'd be sweet peas. They would just be sweet. Yeah. And she would make them and she would burn them a little bit. And that is just my favorite way of eating sweet peas.

6:17Isn't that so funny? I was talking to somebody on the show yesterday who was saying that his mom wasn't a good baker. And so she would always make chocolate chip cookies, but they would always be a little bit burned. and he now has like a penchant for burnt cookies. Yeah, my mom used to burn the cookies too and now I like them burnt. And I'm a little worried to make them burnt for my kids because I'm like, are you gonna get this? Or do I have to throw you out? You know? It is so funny to me though that we have those like weird little moments and these little things that like, that can't be replicated.

6:53You know what I mean? That just are the way that someone you loved did it And so therefore, that's the way it has to be done. Yeah. I try. Sometimes I try to, I think it was yasa, which is the chicken dish that my dad would make all the time. And my mom actually did make that. My mom would make that, but she wouldn't make the sort of more complicated African dishes. But that was pretty easy. It's just marinated chicken over white rice. But always, I'm like, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't taste like my dad. It doesn't taste like my mom. It doesn't work. And my husband would be like, this is delicious.

7:29And they'd be like, shut up. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know. But that's it. Because there's something about the way we deal with this a lot, too. And I've talked about this a little bit that I come from a Jewish heritage. My and my in-laws were much more my father was Catholic, but my in-laws were very Jewish. And so they really passed down a lot of like these very traditional Jewish dishes. but they kept no records of like how they made things. And so it was just like a handful of this and a pinch of that. And we think of a little bit of whatever. And so now to try to make it, it's next to impossible, you know, and it will never taste the same because we never really know.

8:11That's how my family makes things. I feel like that's like, you know, black people make things. We just let the ancestors move us. Like I'm not going to pinch a cup, whatever. No, right. Of course you have to feel it. there is something to that but then i guess the lesson is then you bring something you bring your experience your knowledge or love to the dish and so now it's going to taste a little bit different but i get i feel that so much of just like that's not what this is supposed to taste like um tell me as a child of the 80s packaged goods we got to talk because i would say 80s early 90s were like peak snack food times.

8:49We had some real experimental stuff too. I think a lot about 3D Doritos. Oh my gosh. No one has brought that up. But yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3D Doritos. Why did they need to be 3D? They needed to be. I'm not a scientist. I'm going to trust the people in charge. And if they said that it needed to be 3D, I appreciate your respect. I would never argue with them. Yes, I get it. I get it. but they were wilds. Why did they need that? They're just, they were there. I like to put them, I like to put them like in my mouth, like in between my tongue and the roof of my mouth and hold it there. And then like, you know, I'm an excavator.

9:30Obviously, obviously that's obviously the right way to eat them. Or you bite them so that they break in half. So you eat one half of it and then you have the other half for later and later is only three seconds later. I mean, you've made this, you clearly, this is a professional, this is a professional opinion. i had nothing but time i know you but i like but they need to bring those back doritos can you bring back the 3d i feel like they've dabbled in a little bit of like bringing back some of their old things maybe we can campaign apparently i would like you guys to bring them back i would like that i'd like other stuff too but yeah yeah maybe in the order of things in this world 3d doritos falls maybe to the bottom but let's pick some other stuff the other things first but then and then get to the 3d doritos what else do you remember uh bugles and i wasn't like a gigantic fan of bugles like the taste of bugles i can't really go recall to memory but i do yeah corn right what i do recall more than anything is the amazing manicure i would give myself yes yes so you can look like a receptionist 100 percent with your just honey honey or like or like a lady at the hair salon yes wait but i'm like you can't eat a bugle without putting it on your fingertips it's insane why would you do this instead of doing that that that and then you oh that's my son eats raspberries like that like we all he puts them all on his fingers and then eats them one wait how old are your kids they will be two in a month in a few weeks i have to ask i always ask parents on the show are you a good snack mom or are you like a strict snack mom so they don't eat like candy they're way too young for candy of course the worst thing may eat my son loves cookies he loves cookies which is his favorite uh he really likes he loves a chocolate chip cookie my daughter does not like cookies like that she'll mess with a snickerdoodle but she doesn't really like cookies my daughter prefers um broccoli and salad and kale apples does she think does she think she's better than us yes like that's what that is 100 % the problem okay um or the solution yeah she definitely thinks she's better than us yeah but she I mean she is clearly but i'm just she is it's and it's there's no way around it no i get it and bless her yeah but the boy likes cookies and she likes she also likes so like what i do as a mom is i try not to do crazy things like they don't drink so drinker eat sugar like we give them juice but it's like an ounce of juice yeah and then a bunch of water on top of it and they only get it during the day don't get it at night yeah but i make a little i make a little snack pack for them and we go outside to play right so i'm cutting up cheese my daughter likes baby bills that's her jam she likes cheese and she likes a little um she likes turkey like cut up i don't know why wait sorry i realized my face was like oh turkey and someone is gonna give a comment of like okay calm down about turkey there was absolutely no reason that was an inappropriate response to turkey but okay continue turkey yeah she eats turkey so she'll do cheese and she likes a soft cheese she'll she likes cheddar here and there but she likes a softer cheese so um cheese and turkey and also cut up strawberries okay so you're making her a charcuterie board for both of them right and i do so i'll put a little thing of cookies in there too or like just always cookies with a fruit with two different fruits and a cheese and usually it is her eating most of the fruit and my son coming back for cooking he's pronouncing you go cocky so we do that's the thing I mean that's a pretty cool mom like that like the charcuterie board level of preparation is very cool I'm super duper into my kids and I also know that like I'm very busy yeah sometimes like sometimes I have to work in a different state yeah and you know I'm away from them for four weeks or whatever and so when I am there I want to be as present as possible I want to be I want to do as much as possible yeah yeah you know yeah because there's going to be times where I'm just not going to be there it does feel like joy I I have to say too and I like and because I have three kids as well and I work a lot and I was I really always did I mean it wasn't that it wasn't exhausting but I really always tried to cherish the moments that I had doing the kind of annoying minutia like changing diapers in the middle of the night and whatever just like because you're just like what a gift it is to get to be and this is very earnest of me like because honestly yes it's exhausting so It is like, you're like, God, I'm so lucky to get to do this.

14:21You know? And for them, they only have the one mom. And even like, my husband is super, super present. Like he's a really, really great dad. He's a really, really great dad, but he's not a mom. Right. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, totally. There's just things that are not, you know, that you can't get. And we'll be right back.

14:47Okay, so you're saying you're busy and I know why you're busy because now you're like in addition to all the amazing shows you've done and movies, all the things, now you're directing. Yeah. Tell me a little bit about how that started and why and what that experience has been like for you. Oh, it's been so fun. I guess I've been, so I, you know, it's weird, like, uh, Refinery29, they were doing this program where they were, they would just like give money to female directors to direct shorts. and they were like, would you like some money for a short? And I said, no, thank you. Never turn down money.

15:22Yeah, I don't know what I was doing about that. I don't know what I was on. But I came to my senses. I had a friend who had an idea and she was about to do a GoFundMe to fund a project that she wanted to direct. And I said, girl, I can get this money if you let me direct it, then we could get it made. And that's how I became a director. and that led to directing uh episodes of empire which is a show that i was on yes and that was scary in itself too because i was like i don't want to direct my co-workers like i don't like these are my friends and like you know what's going to make them listen to me but i'm sure they were very respectful oh my god yeah they would some some would be upset with themselves if they felt like they didn't do what i what i wanted sometimes you don't want to let your friends down more than you don't want to let a stranger down yeah I feel like that they really showed up and that was really wonderful that's so cool yeah tell me a little bit about I want to know about what the difference has been like for you on set though as a director versus an actress you know as an actress you just have basically the one job yeah you know like you show up and somebody else puts you know clothes on you and somebody else has your hair and your makeup and like it really is none of your business yeah like it's not all I had to do was listen all I had to do was remember my lines, listen to the other person in the scene, and listen to the director.

16:43But as the director, I have to decide what the hair looks like, what the makeup looks like, what the clothes look like, who the actors are, what they say, how they say it, who they say it to, which where they're facing when they're saying it, everything. It's all of the jobs. I literally don't understand how it's how you're capable of doing it. I don't know how you're capable of doing that and then acting as well, like like the the way you did for Empire. I did. So like the first the first episode I directed, I wasn't in it. And only because I kept saying to the writers, I don't know if we need this character.

17:19You're like, I've got control over this. I don't I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And they were trying to make it easy on me by having my character be sick. Yeah. The flu in bed. And I was like, I don't know. It's really going to take away from. Yeah. That story. storyline yeah so i got myself out of it which was wonderful i could just concentrate on the directing but that second episode they were like listen you gotta get back yeah you can't be sick with the flu for seven weeks we can't do that you just gotta do this all right i have to ask because i always my favorite questions are craft service questions okay so you need to tell me which set had the best craft services empire difficult people american horror story difficult people had probably the worst press service ever.

18:06Tell me why. Here's the thing. It was such a fun show, but like we were, it was, and we had permits, I'm sure, but we mostly shot in, well, I mostly shot in one location and it was always just like, it almost felt like guerrilla filmmaking, like super bare bones. Yeah. Like super, like the crafty station, it was like maybe bagels and nuts is anyone throwing a fit come on someone's got to be throwing a fit no because that wasn't the vibe no okay okay i'm just like i'm like is billy going like what bagels i expect him yelling no it really wasn't the vibe but of those three i would say empire probably had the best uh craft service what tell me give me a little bit give me a little taste we would have fresh fruit uh there would be uh you know cut up veggies and things like that uh yogurt and cereal and lots of like different coffees and hot chocolate and also donuts every day but also yeah it was like you know good stuff not like it was stuff for if you're vegan if you're gluten-free but if you're like neither of those things and you just want to bug out but also the we would the crafty truck was kind of just available for us to walk in at any time so I would just go in there and get a sandwich and make myself a sandwich or um one time uh my husband came to visit me on set and he was just my boyfriend then but he made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich but he uh crunched up some biscoff cookies what I mean delicious wait okay so like i i need delicious i need we need to dig in on this so on a scale of one to ten how how big a foodie are you oh uh probably i don't know like i'd say eight okay and what about your husband uh you know he's a foodie he's got some issues though he can't he doesn't he cannot process dairy or eggs oh boy yeah oh my goodness like that poor baby i mean people survive like that Yeah, yeah, he's living.

20:19He's okay. But it's harder. It's hard. But he definitely, I think, we were someplace the other day, and he picked up some cookies or something. Oh, my kids had, like, these veggie straws with, like, ranch on them. He can't have the ranch. Right. And he picked it up to eat. And I go, what are you doing? I'm just starving. I'm just so, like, I was like, put them down. Like, he can't help himself sometimes. But is he, like, is it, like, a serious allergy? Like, deathly? like kind of he's very very uncomfortable and the rest of us are as well yes because he's so uncomfortable it just like it's not it's not worth it yeah yeah i do find that starts to happen too as you get older so then what does a typical like date night look for you guys look like for you too okay so he can eat meat okay okay great he eats a lot a lot a lot of meat as long as whatever sauce it's made in is gluten-free okay and it's not like a dairy sauce um he so he eats a lot a lot a lot of meat.

21:18He doesn't really like salads or like he eats a salad but he likes to put apples and stuff in and nuts and things like that. So yeah a steak is usually pretty good. So what's your favorite place to go together? I swear to god we have not been outside the house in so long. It's the twins. It's been two years. We gotta get out. It's time to get out there. i am struggling to remember we went on a date for his birthday we went to a restaurant in beverly hills and he had the steak he really likes french fries too great um and what are you what's your what's your go-to what would be your death row meal and by the way i don't like that question because i'm just like i don't need to be that but that is the question so like what's the like last meal you want to have on earth i have tried to consider that and it's so hard okay then let's do breakfast lunch and dinner what's your breakfast what's your like go-to like ride or die breakfast let's get serious it would be a pancake lasagna what yeah tell me what this is so it's a okay follow me right and also it's like i want my delish editors listening very closely to this because we're going to make this in the okay you should make yeah it's a layer of eggs and cheese and bacon and pancake then egg and cheese and bacon and pancake and then egg and cheese and bacon and pancake where did you hear or see this there's a rest there's a there's a restaurant i don't know if it's still here there's some place and it's a rooftop restaurant with a pool and i cannot remember the name of it but it's um where beverly hills and west hollywood sort of meet i'm from new jersey yeah just like i don't know yeah i could that could be anywhere i'm not even sure that i've gotten the right place or location i don't know that beverly hills and west hollywood do actually know each other i'm not sure that's fine we're gonna assume they do i'm gonna assume there's a place you know what google yes oh my god oh my god do they still have it oh my god sarita i'm so sorry oh my god the sound guy is so excited for this oh my gosh you found it it's the roof on wilshire that is hilarious all right we're going there after this and then we're also sending gabrie something we're gonna okay so i've not had it in years but that would be my okay that's your go-to okay what's your go-to lunch it would be pizza it would be a meat lovers pizza maybe not you know whatever x you know an elevated version of a meat-lover pizza.

24:03That's not the point. It's the honey on top. Oh, hot honey? I don't need hot honey. Okay, just honey. Just honey. So what's the meat on the pizza? You don't even care. I don't, you know, I am partial to an Italian sausage, but, you know, it's my last meal. So what doesn't do that? All the meat. Oh my gosh, okay. Put a dragon on it. Can I just ask you? What meat have we not eaten? Is that the thing you miss the most on the West Coast pizza? I gotta be honest like the pizza out here is just not the same there are some places but yeah it's not the same there's like what is it there's some place called a prince street pizza in New York yeah no it's here too babe oh really yeah huh yeah that's not good for me to know yeah condolences yes I'm like well whoever had plans with tonight sorry we're done no it got here about I want to say two years ago two maybe three years ago and they have you know the like i never remember the name of it but it's a you're jewish yeah so it's a cookie but it's also like italian other like there's like look yeah where west hollywood and beverly hills meet yeah jewish people and italian people they also meet somewhere too biscotti are you gonna say like a biscotti it's not a biscotti it's the it's the it's the cookie that is it's pink and it's green and it's chocolate yeah yeah yeah so the rainbow cookies right okay but that seems wrong in my brain no no no we call them rainbow yeah i know it's rainbow but i never remember it because that doesn't seem no that doesn't like i i hear rainbow well they're missing a lot of colors yes it's just green and pink what are we talking about chocolate yes so prince street pizza they have a rainbow cookie cake what oh lord we're in trouble we're in trouble here we're gonna be eating the rest of the day clear your calendars everybody um okay wait i'm saying keeping us on track last dinner what's your dinner go-to I feel like it would be something so trashy but that's okay don't you feel like that's okay yeah I mean it's my last meal I murdered someone and now I get to have whatever you want KFC for dinner I love KFC what's your order oh I just I just I really like the original recipe chicken so good fries or mashed potato you know what's funny one time I got KFC and the wedges yes and I personally don't care for the wedges this is an argument we have in our house it's a thing but my husband who at the time was not doing he wasn't doing carbs right saw the wedges and went absolutely nuts and I was like this is the thing like he was eating all of them and I was like this is the thing it's the wedges I had no idea that that was a hot button for him.

26:51I had no idea that that was his spot, but it was wedges. What is your fry shape of choice then? Rallys. Rallys. I like a thin, I made fries for my kids last night. My dad used to make homemade french fries and I, and I, that's what I want actually. Wow. That's the only fry I actually like. Wait, a homemade french fry is hard to nail. He got it good? Yeah, he was pretty good at it. Did he deep fry or oven? Deep fry. Wow. In oil, yeah. Okay, that's the difference, because most of us don't do that. Yeah, we're air frying now. I do. So, like, sometimes I try to put a little bit of fat on my kids, and so I will fry their fries in oil.

27:29So a regular cut. I personally like a crinkle. I'm a crinkle cut person. Okay, crinkle cuts are so good. Those I will throw in the air fryer. Yeah, they stay crispy. They really do. Those are really, really, really good. I got nothing for a waffle. What are we talking about? Where are we as a society when we are cutting potatoes into waffles? Okay, well, I think this is where the interview ends. I can't work with this person. Waffle, you're against, you're anti-waffle? I'm anti-waffle fry. Anti-waffle fry. I got to say, I love, listen, I'm not discriminatory against any shape. I love the waffle.

28:07I love a wedge. I got to tell you, I love a wedge too. I'm with your husband on this one. There's too much potato in there. I don't care. I just think they're delicious. And I think the KFC ones are really well seasoned. We got into a full rant yesterday about the In-N-Out fries. And In-N-Out's coming for me. Because I am just like, they're not good. In-N-Out fries are not good. Are we done? No, we're not. Okay. How do you feel? How does that make you feel when I say that to you? About In-N-Out fries? Perfectly fine, actually. Okay, good. Which fast food place has the best fries? Now we're getting into it.

28:41You know who's got really great marketing? McDonald's. Yes. Are they the best fry? I'm gonna say something a little controversial. I'm gonna say it, damn it. I think the real competition is between Burger King and Wendy's. Wow. I do. Okay. But like, but to be fair, that's only if Raleigh's is not in the conversation. What is Raleigh's? You've never had the checkered, the check. Oh, checkers. Because they have another name. Oh, because checkers near us had curly fries. Yeah, but. But do they also. Yeah, they're seasoned. Yeah. Like they kind of look like the KFC wedges, except they're normal fry shaped as they should be.

29:26Okay. But they also have curly fries or they only in where we are. They have curly. What are they? Yeah, they're straight. Are you talking about Jack in a Box? I don't know. Jack in the Box has curly fries. We don't really have a Jack in the Box on the East Coast. And then Checkers. We had a Checkers and I thought they had curly fries, but I didn't really go there that often. I'm sorry. I went to McDonald's and Burger King. I actually... Great marketing. I'm on the... I'm absolutely on your side about Wendy's. I think Wendy's has a superior fry. They have a really good fry. Yeah. I also like a little skin on it.

29:57Yeah. I'm with that. I like a little fiber. Can I get you on to Five Guys fries? How do you feel about Five Guys? Which is like skin-tastic. that's like real they got potato skin on it yeah i've been to five guys maybe twice okay i don't know what it is about five guys but it feels very inconvenient it's because they don't start cooking it until you get there which i find very what it is it's just and so then you're like waiting and honestly god bless five guys because my family loves it but i find that really inconvenient i'm just like I want to go there and pick it up and leave. I don't want to wait for it.

30:36I don't trust that many men in the kitchen. I'm gonna say it. Oh wow. What are they doing around my burger? Hot take. Five of them? Hot take. It takes five of you? Five guys. It takes five? Five guys. What all five are you doing? What all five are you doing around my burger? Holy crap we just threw it down right now. You heard it here first. We got a real problem with five guys. It should be one guy. I choose the bear we are gonna wrap this up with a with a little speed round which and now that I know that you're obsessed with snack boards yeah now that I know you're obsessed I like options yeah I know that you know that okay and also I'll say you love a board our audience loves a board I'm gonna have you put together your ultimate board and you're gonna tell me what snacks go where ready what snack do you put on there for comfort what makes me feel safe nothing I don't know what What makes, I don't know.

31:30What's your go-to comfort food? It could be anything. And don't worry about it being a board. Oh, you know what? It's Biscoff cookies. Yeah. Those are great. My jam. Yeah. I love that seasoning, that spice. It tastes better on an airplane, and I don't know the science behind it. You know, you're not wrong. Mm-hmm. All right. Snack for celebration and joy. What's the snack that makes you feel happy? Oreo McFlurries. Oh, that's a great one. With extra Oreos on the bottom. wait but do we always talk about this on delish about how the flurry machine's always broken is this not for me is it not never once in my career never once in my mcflurry eating career have i ever is it possible you're the luckiest person on the planet because i feel like people are gonna have something to say about that the mcflurry machine is always broken except for gabrie i wouldn't know okay i mean i love that all right this ultimate snack that gives you power makes you feel powerful makes me I know is it are we asking a little too much from snacks we might be we might be it's like sea bass it's not really a snack I don't know what it is I don't know what this would be I'm putting a lot of pressure on pickles we might be but is it pickles because we can I will go with that I enjoy pickle I live specifically famous Dave's oh pickles I don't even know what this is you can find them a grocery store okay they're bomb they're really good famous dave's oh i'm thinking famous amos i was i know that's famous dave's like the barbecue place yeah oh yes exactly so good they make a good pickle that's so crazy i didn't even know they made pickles the red jar okay the blue jar was their barbecue sauce is actually really good yeah their barbecue sauce is good yeah sarita i can't i god bless you but the rest of these i'm like sarita wrote these i'm just my record of saying that we'll see what she wrote snack for minding your business I just can't take credit for that because oh my god like don't bother me popcorn okay all right it's kettle corn all right and the last one is snack for chaos snack that makes you feel chaotic now you just have to answer it okay um a snack that makes me feel chaotic Like, when you're feeling like crazy, what's the thing you got?

33:51Oh, when I'm feeling crazy, I fear it's a handful of dried cherries and a baby bell with the wax off and you have to eat it over the sink and cry. Crying is not optional? I wish it were. Okay. I get it. I get it. I truly do. Dry cherries, I think are an unsung hero of the snack rolls. I love cherries. And what makes me sad is that they're currently disgusting. Now we're not in cherry season. We're not in cherry season. We're not in cherry season. But let me tell you, frozen cherries are my go-to late night snack. Yeah, they're good for sleeping. They are. And dried cherries I put in oatmeal cookies instead of raisins.

34:36Oh, you know what? The other day I had a cranberry oatmeal cookie. And I think that that was the incorrect way. but this the dry cherry let me i'll one up it for you dry cherry and chocolate chip oatmeal cookie is my favorite that's what i make at home that's what you make at home and where do you live in new jersey anytime you show up literally anytime and i will have there won't be one single wedge potato in sight not one there will only be wendy's and wendy's and burger king fries i'll have both and the cookie for you do you remember sometime in the it was like the early 2000s perhaps late 90s when Burger King redid their fry like their recipe and they put there there was some sort of spice that they used to put on the fry and it was delicious and it immediately was so much better than McDonald's and then like two years later it was gone.

35:33Maybe they got a lot of backlash. Can you look that up? Look it up. Do you like a flavored fry? You know places that have flavored fries um uh Fuddruckers uh who else has a spicy fry I'm still gagged that Fuddruckers is a real place I mean no I'm from Brooklyn my husband is from the suburbs of Chicago okay and he'd be like yeah go into Fuddruck and I giggled for so I was like that's not a real place I thought it was like a South Park thing it's so good I thought it was Casa Bonita and Casa Bonita also a real place also Casa Bonita wait but then you know who else has a good spiced fry is um Red Robin do you guys go to Red Robin out here into a Red Robin once Red Robin came to New York City yes in the early 2000s that's right what well I don't know if there's more but there was one in like Times Square yes to it one time there's always ones in like malls they always have them are in or around malls Sarita how we doing on that did you have to shake I don't remember doing work now It was like 90s, yeah.

36:39Yeah, they said they had a blend of garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, and white pepper. Well, now we have a bone to pick with Burger King. Now we're pissed at Burger King. Why would they get rid of it? That's crazy. It was delicious. Absolutely crazy. Does that not sound delicious? So you have a French fry with onion powder, garlic powder, paprika, and white pepper. It sounds delicious. but it also sounds polarizing for the masses of America. It sounds like something that they need. I could see that being like... I'm so tired of racism. I know. I just feel like I could see like America having a real problem with that level of interest.

37:16I'm also like a purist. Like I don't like when people do too much. Like, you know what I hate more than any? I hate a deep fried macaroni and cheese ball. What are we doing? I also really, really don't like a lobster mac and cheese. Why are we doing that? Why are we introducing finery? To something already fine? Slow down, Savannah.

37:46It sometimes comes out of a box. Is it good? Yes. But I would not say that mac and cheese is on the finery list. I see. I see. I see what you're saying. because i'm saying it's already delicious why do you have to add that why do you have to add lobster to it that's what i'm saying i went but it wasn't fine like fine fine like it's not fancy lobster is like fine dining yeah yeah what do we do why are we putting that into macaroni and cheese i don't disagree with you i will absolutely stand for blue box macaroni and cheese i just i have to tell you that is that is that might be where we have to leave it because yeah that's where we'll leave it.

38:25That's where we'll leave it. But I will happily and in a corner eat my boxed macaroni and cheese just to have a meal with you. So we're going to do it. We're going to share a cookie. I'm never going to eat it. I've loved my time with you. I really have. So you bring your homemade mac and cheese. I'll bring my boxed and then we'll get together and have fun. Thanks for joining Snacks. Please make sure you follow, like, and subscribe anywhere you your podcasts and check us out on all the social platforms at snacks podcast