Dark Energy Tuesday (Alix Earle v. Alex Cooper, Justin Bieber, West & Amanda Updates, “Ladies of London”)

21 Apr 2026 · 1 h 1 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Snarkbait episode covering (1) the “West & Amanda” Summer House/Yankees scandal and Sierra fallout, (2) Justin Bieber’s Coachella Weekend 2 performance, (3) Alex Cooper vs. Alex Earle “Be Better”/DM drama, and (4) Ladies of London updates (Margot vs. the British clique).

Guests

No guest interviews. Hosts are Christy and Sophie (Snarkbait). The transcript also references public figures being discussed: Sierra (Glamour cover), West & Amanda, Justin Bieber, Big Sean, Billie Eilish, Madonna, Sabrina Carpenter, Alex Cooper, Alex Earle, Brianna Chickenfry, and Ladies of London cast members (Margot, Martha, Mark Francis, Emma, Micah, Lottie, Missy, Kimmy).

Key claims

West is portrayed as lying about not noticing Sierra; Amanda is portrayed as weaponizing insecurity and “cock blocking” for camera time. Alex Cooper is accused of PR/planting around Alex Earle’s politics. Coachella Weekend 2 is praised as more comfortable with stronger vocals and better audience connection.

Notable examples

Yankees broadcast PDA; rumored illicit video leading to Sierra finding out; Bieber guests (Big Sean, Billie Eilish for “One Less Lonely Girl”); Madonna surprise during Sabrina Carpenter’s set; Margot’s “nipple tassels” and Mark Francis’s Versailles-like home.

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Chapters

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Weekend Recap and 420 Celebration

1:00 to 2:28

Hosts share their weekend experiences and celebrate 420.

“Welcome back to another episode of Snarkbait.”

Family Time and Shopping Adventures

2:28 to 3:30

Discussion about family visits and shopping experiences.

“And it's so funny also because Baxter like forgets I exist.”

West Mandeville Scandal Updates

3:30 to 4:48

Discussion on the controversy surrounding West Mandeville and Amanda.

“But now I'm on a shopping timeout for a while.”

Sierra's Glamour Magazine Cover

4:48 to 6:06

Conversation about Sierra's cover and her mature handling of her situation.

“She goes, she's in the room right next to me.”

Yankees Game Behavior Analysis

6:06 to 8:10

Hosts analyze the behavior of West and Amanda at the Yankees game.

“They knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to step out publicly for like the second time.”

Wes's Sociopathic Traits

8:10 to 9:27

Discussion about Wes's behavior and its sociopathic implications.

“Just looking at their body language and the way they were acting, he like leaned over to kiss her and it was the most sterile, weird kiss.”

Amanda's Relationship Dynamics

9:27 to 11:27

Exploration of Amanda's relationship dynamics and insecurities.

“And it's one thing to be drunk and kind of make bad decisions.”

Impending Reunion Speculations

11:27 to 14:05

Hosts speculate on what will be revealed in the upcoming reunion.

“I need to talk about it with my therapist or with a professional outside of just my friend group because it is very disturbing to me to watch a man as sociopathic.”

Examining the Amanda and West Rumors

14:05 to 16:49

A discussion about the controversial video and relationship dynamics from the show.

“is that there was a video, an illicit video taken of Amanda and West in West's apartment.”

Kyle Cook's Relationship Insights

16:50 to 19:12

Analyzing the dynamics between Kyle Cook and Megan King-Edmonds amidst their past controversies.

“What did you think of, do you remember where you were when you found out that Kyle Cook and Megan King-Edmonds made out on the street?”
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Dissecting Sabrina's Role in Summer House

19:13 to 21:24

A critical look at Sabrina's behavior and intentions as a new cast member.

“You know, you always got to deduct two inches.”

The Concept of a 'Girl's Girl'

21:25 to 22:24

Debating the implications of the phrase 'girl's girl' and its impact on women's relationships.

“But I think everyone's going to agree with you.”

Justin Bieber's Coachella Performance

28:39 to 33:59

Discussing Justin Bieber's transformative performance during Coachella Weekend 2.

“It's very important to me that I talk about this because, admittedly, Weekend 1, I did not watch his entire set.”

Madonna's Reception at Coachella

33:59 to 35:38

Analyzing the audience's lackluster response to Madonna's appearance at Coachella.

“of Sabrina Carpenter bringing out Madonna.”

Drama Between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl

35:38 to 42:00

Exploring the ongoing drama and public perception between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl.

“Shannon of Fluently Forward has been texting me like almost every day saying, if Alex Earl doesn't respond by midnight, I'm going daddy-ing.”

The Alex Controversy: PR Moves and Rumors

42:00 to 44:40

Explore the dynamics between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl, including rumors and perceived tensions.

“And I think unfortunately or fortunately for both of them, they are playing into it super hard.”

Ladies of London Review: Characters and Clashes

44:40 to 48:20

Dive into the cast and conflicts of 'Ladies of London', highlighting key personalities and their interactions.

“I need to watch the new episode of Rhode Island that dropped last night.”

Kimmy's Dark Energy: Reality TV Insights

48:20 to 50:20

Discuss the intriguing character of Kimmy from 'Ladies of London', her background and impact on the show.

“Grew up in Miami, but then moved to the UK 25 years ago.”

Rude Encounters: A Personal Anecdote

50:20 to 55:00

Reflect on a personal experience with rudeness and the importance of kindness in everyday interactions.

“Well, that is some interesting lore about her father.”

Beef: TV Show Recommendations and Updates

55:00 to 56:00

Discuss the new season of 'Beef' and the notable cast members, along with some confusion about actors.

“If I was already having a bad day, that would just, like, set me over the edge.”

Discussion on 'Beef' Series

56:00 to 57:30

Learn about the 'Beef' series and its unique storytelling format.

“I was like, wait, I feel like you're onto something.”

Light Energy Object: Find My Device

57:30 to 58:50

Discover the Find My Device feature on iPhones and its practicality.

“Like a really, really, really good, highly acclaimed, critically acclaimed anthology series, I guess, where every season is a different cast, different storyline.”

Upcoming Patreon Content and Live Show

58:50 to 59:48

Get insights on upcoming Patreon content and live show details.

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Transcript

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0:00It's the Paradise Podcast. I am your host, Raya Michelle Bathe, with my husband, Sterling. What's up? Join us here on Hulu and Hulu on Disney +, where we'll discuss each episode with the cast and crew of Paradise. I'll be getting all the secrets from Dan Fogelman, James Marsden, Shailene Woodley, Julianne Nicholson, and Sterling Kelby-Brown. Paradise, the official podcast, is now streaming. And stream Paradise on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+.

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1:23So hopefully this is as topical as possible, but it is Monday. It's 420. Yeah.

1:27West Wilson:Happy 420 for those who celebrate. Are you celebrating, Sophie? Will you partake? I am not partaking today, but I encourage everyone else to. Yeah, no, absolutely. I am, the reason my background is a bit different is because for those of you watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash at snarkbait pod. Everything is in the link in our show notes, by the way, that we're referencing. But my house is getting some enhancements. So I'm just at my mom's house and I'm feeling very displaced right now. And I have to go to the office. I'll be like on site for like a full week because we're having those AI vendors come from New York City again because we're implementing this software.

2:06So I have to be on my A game all freaking week. And I just started my period. So sorry if that's TMI, but I was exhausted all weekend and I stopped the majority of the weekend. That's a lot on your plate. There's a lot going on on my plate, but regardless, you know, such is life. And genuinely, I'm excited to record Dark Energy Tuesday because there's a lot to talk about. But before we get into that, I want to hear about Amy Ross, who's in town. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's so funny. My mom is in town this weekend. And it's so funny also because Baxter like forgets I exist. When my mom's around, he loves his Nana and has been sleeping with her every night.

2:46And I'm like, hello. Remember me? Remember your mom? Yeah. So that's cute. And yeah, it's been really fun. It's like a tradition of ours where we go to Bergdorf Goodman's Cafe. So we did that yesterday. And then I did a little bit of damage shopping. I bought myself a bag and I sent Christy a picture. And I was like, oops, oops. She says, hey, look at the goods. Yeah, I was like, I did a thing. With the sparkling emojis. Yeah, so I did some damage. But you know what? I had already convinced myself that I deserve to buy myself a little treat just because it's been, yeah, it's been a busy past few months, past year.

3:26And, you know, we work really hard. And so I thought I would treat myself. But now I'm on a shopping timeout for a while. and yeah, that's the tea on Amy. No, you genuinely work so hard and you are a fashion lover and you are a lover of handbags and I'm shocked it took you this long. You really practice self-restraint because I remember telling you, I was like, oh, do you think we should do this with our bank account?

3:54West Wilson:Should we give ourselves this much money? She goes, if it were up to me, we would have bought ourselves two row bags. I know. So like Christy's in charge of our finances, obviously, because she's like the she's the numbers curly yeah and christy's always like oh should we pay ourselves out like a little bit you know like we literally wait until our bank account hit zero before we're like okay should we like pay ourselves out maybe from our for our business account and i'm like christy you tell me like if it were up to me i would have already spent everything already no no that's not true that's not true you're so funny but it was hilarious because we've been posting a lot about the West Mandeville scandal.

4:31West Mandeville, yeah. And those of you that listen to the show, I know you guys saw Weston Amanda at the Yankees game and him cheering on him, you know, his team on on the stadiums. And Sophie wrote, you know, why are his hands so small? And then I see a DM from Amy Ross and she goes, seriously, it's weird. And I go, Sophie, look what your mom just DM'd at. She goes, she's in the room right next to me. Yeah, she's like in the room over and she's like DMing, snarkbait talking about West Wilson's hands, but she's right. Why are they so sad? It's weird. Okay, so on Friday, this past Friday, whatever date that was, the 17th?

5:04Yeah. Sierra, first of all, was on the cover of Glamour magazine, looked stunning, did an interview with Hunter Harris, who is a fantastic writer and profiler, and, you know, talked about the situation. And basically, you know, it seems like she's handling it so maturely, unsurprisingly. Talking about, yeah, she's so classy talking about how, you know, the universe will always sort itself out. You can just sit back, let the universe handle things. And I'm sure that's how she feels right now. She is the one getting all these opportunities. Amanda and West, meanwhile, are getting basically booed at Yankees games.

5:41And I know that West wasn't getting booed. It was the Kansas City Royals that were getting booed at the Yankees home game. But I still like to think that the crowd was booing him when he was standing up. So, yeah, if you guys missed it, the day that, and I couldn't help but feel like they were trying to overshadow Sierra's Glamour magazine cover by stepping out at the Yankees game together, holding hands, kissing. What did you make of their Yankees game appearance, Christy? Okay, I just have to say this is truly such disturbing behavior by both of them. The body is still warm. They knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to step out publicly for like the second time.

6:16There was a couple of people that were watching their every move, understandably so with the scandal going on. But there was this clip that you guys have all seen where Amanda's maybe telling Wes to act like you like me. And if that is, in fact, what she did say, again, we'll have to get a lip reader in to confirm that's what she said. To me, it's giving more of like, you know, cameras are on us. We need to make this worth it. We are ruining our lives and our careers for this scandal. At least act like you fucking like me. And I watched it at half the speed. I don't know if you saw this as well.

6:49It definitely did look like she was saying, act like you liked me. Did you make that as well? I think so, too. Obviously, it's impossible to know for sure unless you're like a professional lip reader, but it definitely seemed like it. And so they were on, it wasn't like the kiss cam in the stadium, I don't think, but it was on the network that aired Yankees game. They got spotlit. And I think it's because the person that was in charge of production is, oh, I'm sorry if you hear some squeaky sounds. Hey, Baxter. That's Baxter. I love a little cameo from Baxter when we get him. It's his little taxi cab.

7:23So New York. So, anywho, the person in charge of the camera for the Yankees Game Network, and I might be making this up, but they were like, where are Amanda and West? I'm going to put them on the TV. I'm going to put them on, you know, the broadcast. And they did. And so there was a whole segment where Amanda and West were focused on, on the broadcast, which I thought was so funny. and I thought their body language was obviously interesting. She had her legs like kicked up on the chair in front of her, which bad baseball game etiquette. And like spread eagle and her feet were on the seat in front of her and it's like there was someone seated right in front of her.

8:06It's like that's just bad etiquette. Yes, bad etiquette. So I thought that was interesting. Just looking at their body language and the way they were acting, he like leaned over to kiss her and it was the most sterile, weird kiss. I didn't sense any chemistry between them. What I thought was more interesting was a video that a fan took who was sitting behind them. I'm sure you guys all saw. It was what I was just talking about. He was standing up and cheering for the Royals while the rest of the stadium was booing because it was a Yankees home game. And you could see Amanda kind of tug him down and trying to say, you know, sit down.

8:37You're embarrassing me. Whatever she was saying, it was very much giving her dynamic with Kyle. And he looked annoyed at her. You could see that he was like, what? Like, he looked annoyed at her. They're not going to fucking last. I'm sorry. Oh, everyone is saying the second the reunion airs, he's leaving. I mean, guarantee he has six other women he's texting right now. That we know to be objectively correct. And I find this whole Yankees game stint of them going out together even more triggering based on the episode that we just watched on Summer House. And of course, by the time this airs, another one will air tonight.

9:10But I find that Amanda—actually, let me start with Wes. Let's start with you, fucking Wes. Let's start with you, Wes. Alex Cooper, I'm talking directly to you, Wes. Wes is straight up not a good person. For someone to—yes, I think that regardless of this Amanda stuff, for him to invite that woman over at the summer house party, canoodle with her in front of Sierra. And it's one thing to be drunk and kind of make bad decisions. It's a whole other thing to know in your sober state of mind, let me invite a girl that I am interested in so that I can make out with her in front of the girl that knows it'll be a problem.

9:47Like he made those decisions on a sober state of mind. Second of all, for him to be so lovey-dovey with her in front of her and in front of cameras, forget what we just said about Wes being hypercognizant of like how he's portrayed. He doesn't give a fuck anymore and he's leaning into it. And I find him to be a very, very disturbed individual. Like you said, it exhibits sociopathic tendencies. I think a sociopath is defined. I'm going to look this up. He also, while you're looking that up, he also lied. He lied about not realizing. He claimed that he didn't realize Sierra was sitting right next to them.

10:20When we saw him say to the girl, who, by the way, that girl, do you see her lipsyncing on TikTok? Yes. Where she goes, I think I'm going to surf lodge. So he was like, I used to date that girl right next to us. And she was like, do you want me to get up? And he was like, no, it's fine. And then later said he didn't realize that Sierra was right next to them. So he fucking lied, obviously. The other interesting thing, I'm sure you saw this, is that Bravo and Cocktails posted, my blank is a friend of Wes from back home. Can confirm Amanda and Wes have been hooking up since last June. His entire group of home friends was fully aware.

10:58And then said, this is all I'm allowed to share, but it's pretty convincing intel. So Bravo and Cocktails seems convinced. And that would track with how she was acting in this past episode, which was jealous of West and this girl. 100%. It was so disturbing to see her cock blocking West in the guise of trying to be a girl's girl and stand up for Sierra's feelings. It was not about Sierra. It genuinely is sick. And I can't even describe to you how triggering it is for me to watch this. And I don't know why. I need to talk about it with my therapist or with a professional outside of just my friend group because it is very disturbing to me to watch a man as sociopathic.

11:35Okay, I just looked it up. This is the Gemini summarized version at the top of the Google screen. So psychologists and LMFTs, please weigh in. But a persistent pattern of disregard for the rights, safety, and feelings of others. I think he consistently does exhibit a complete disregard, a blatant disregard for the safety and feelings of Sierra time and time again. okay and that's like a quick byline but someone that behaves like that is not a safe person to be around and i've i think we as women who are once in our 20s have been around men that are so emotionally unavailable and that i like kick you when you're down and frankly have no regard for how you may feel for how you're displaying a pda in front of like in front of you with a woman that you don't know like it's just so incredibly triggering and i find that even in the same episode when Amanda is weaponizing her insecurities and continues to like push on the fact.

12:27And if it is in fact true that she and Kyle, I mean, excuse me, her and Wes were hooking up in June, she's actively seeing this man and weaponizing her insecurities in front of me and Sierra to say, again, poor me, I'm never going to be good enough. I'm so insecure so that they can then feel badly for her. That is psychotic. Psychotic. Yeah. And can I also say really quickly that I didn't think that Sabrina, Ben's girlfriend, was cock blocking out of the goodness of her heart either. I felt like she was trying to get camera time. I think both her and she's so weird. So I think both her and Amanda had ulterior motives.

13:00They were not being girls, girls to Sierra. I think the other thing is that from what we know, first of all, Sierra was potentially hooking up with West after the summer. Sick. Sick. And it's like, it makes me upset that she, but we've all been there, right? Like we've all like been down bad for an emotionally unavailable fuck boy who we just, we cannot quit no matter how horrible they are. Like it is very relatable. It's, you know, it sucks. It obviously is like, Sierra, what are you doing? How many times can he show you who he is? But like, we've all been there. Right. I think that between that question, that was not covered in the Glamour article.

13:41I think that may have been off limits for some reason. Wait, which question? And the timeline of when her and Wes last were hooking up or seeing each other, maybe because it's a spoiler for the reunion. I don't know. That's what I think. The other thing that I feel like was off limits in the interview. And there were also some additional questions that were in Hunter Harris's substack about, you know, the crying photo of Sierra crying outside of the Hermes store. But there was no question about how she found out and what the rumor is that we actually, you know, broke, if I do say so myself, is that there was a video, an illicit video taken of Amanda and West in West's apartment.

14:17And that is how Sierra found out. But that was not asked about in the interview. So I wonder if that was off limits. But I am very curious about that. So hopefully we get more answers at the reunion. Yeah, I think absolutely. The video rumors, the timeline of when West and Amanda started hooking up, all that will be addressed in the reunion. I mean, I think we as viewers of the show and frankly, Bravo watchers, We are the FBI and we are so on the case. And I think that it would be remiss of Andy Cohen to not bring it up at the reunion. I'm pretty sure that was off limits. But another thing I have to say about Amanda choosing Wes is like if I were her friend, I would ask her your values align with someone who wants to settle down, who wants to purchase a home in New Jersey, live off the land with the dogs.

15:05You've expressed that many a season. Yeah. So what is the purpose of you now landing on Kyle 2.0? But dare I say a far worse version. At least Kyle is ambitious and like emotionally intelligent to a degree. Wes has zero emotional intelligence, zero empathy. Like at least Kyle has – he has the ability to like look inward and feel other people's feelings at certain points that we've seen many a season. Wes is the worst version of Kyle. Wes is the drunk version that Amanda hates to see. So I implore Amanda to ask herself, why is it that you continue to choose a person whose values do not align with the person that you wanted out of Kyle?

15:40And it's also like Kyle the alcoholic versus Wes the drug addict. Because if I'm not mistaken, it seems like he and probably Amanda are constantly on vendors. They're always like out drinking during the day, which is like fine. They're having fun. They're young. They're maybe in love. I don't know. But like it is like, oh, so all of a sudden you love going out at the time because Saturday night they were spotted at the Barrow Ale House in the West Village. They're always like out in the West Village. Otherwise, guys, trust me, I would be boots on the ground. I just live so far from the West Village.

16:13But yeah, it is a very bizarre choice that she is all of a sudden out on the town. Maybe it's, you know, I guess if I were to ask her, I would assume that she would say, yeah, but Kyle was just like annoying when he was out. Maybe she got annoyed with how Kyle was when he was out because we got the impression that she hated going out with Kyle. Right. That she hated going out, period. Even when in the past couple of seasons of Summer House, they were the bedbugs for a reason because they didn't like going out. And in fact, before this season aired, Wes and Jessie were doing a red carpet and they asked, what's the most surprising thing of the season?

16:46And Jessie answered, the fact that the girls actually went out. But Amanda was probably going out because she wanted to hang out with Wes. Yeah, absolutely. What did you think of, do you remember where you were when you found out that Kyle Cook and Megan King-Edmonds made out on the street? Yes. And at first, Sophie, I was like, you know what? Hell yeah. But then I remember she had custody removed from her children because she was giving them medication that wasn't prescribed to them. Yeah. Which is kind of crazy. She's been going through it the past few years. Yeah. And listen. And so is he, honestly.

17:17Let's be real. Yeah. I loved me some Megan King-Edmonds on RHOC. I love that she was the FBI. I love that she was able to take down the OGs. I love that she, you know, unveiled the Brooks cancer scam. But that was a little bit of a question mark to me. But you know what? We love to see two hot people shaking that thing. So other than the custody thing, I kind of like it. I wonder if he hired her as a detective to investigate Amanda and West, and then they fell in love. It was funny also because, and I was talking about this with the trigger warning Ryan Bailey, how Page Six brings these unstable Bravo liberties together, pumps them with alcohol, And then it's like page six exclusive.

17:52Kyle Cook and Megan King had been making out and he's like standing on his tippy toes and holding onto her shoulders. That's exactly how it went. And I think Kyle's a pretty tall fella. I mean, you've seen him. Kyle? Is he? Kyle Cook? Kyle Cook tall? I thought he was at least six foot. I thought he was at least six foot. No. Well, coming from me, who's not even five feet? I think maybe because you are so short, your perspective is maybe off. He's like five seven. Wait, what? Are you Kyle Cook? Kyle Cook? Are you kissing him up with like Carl or Jesse Sullivan? For some reason, I obviously always knew Jesse and Carl were like 6 '4".

18:28Well, at least I know Carl's 6 '4". I thought Kyle was like 5'. I thought he was at least 6 feet. Maybe 5 '10". He's like maybe my height. Wait, what? Okay, that's shocking. You can tell by looking at him. Yeah. He's small. I thought just because she was so tall. Like she was known to be like a very statuesque woman. But okay, that makes it even funnier. Well, that's why he was standing on his tippy toes. Yeah, he really was. He was using her shoulders as like a bairn to keep balance. Guys, like am I crazy for yelling at Christy for thinking that she thought Kyle Cook was tall? Because that seems crazy.

19:00It's very obvious that he's a small, petite man. Oh, my mom. You guys, my mom just goes, he's 5 '4". No, he's not. No, he's not. Okay, someone posted on Summer House. I just typed in Kyle Cook height in the first search. I came up with Summer House Bravo Reddit. I never realized how short Kyle is. What are you saying? My mom. He's 5 '10", according to this. I don't believe that he's 5 '10". So he's probably 5 '8". You know, you always got to deduct two inches. I think he's like 5 '7". Also, sorry about that, you guys. My mom in the background. Oh, no. Mom. Sophie. Really quickly, though, about Sabrina, Ben's girlfriend.

19:33I know you just brought her up about trying to get screen time.

19:35West Wilson:She's so weird. She's so fucking weird. No, Ben is such a flop. I've never seen as big of a flop on Summer House in this cast of like A players as it pertains to reality TV. Nobody likes Ben. Wait, I'm sorry. My mom just popped in again. I missed what she said. But yeah, I agree. Nobody likes Ben. He is a freak. Sabrina's a freak. I'm sorry. And everyone's like, Sabrina's just a girl's girl. And that's why she was trying to cock block bus. I'm like, no, she's trying to get camera time. And why was she wearing knee-high bowling shoes on a hot summer's day in the Hamptons in August? And like a polyester choker?

20:12Yeah, yeah. She's always wearing a lace choker. Like, she's just a very strange person. I'm sorry. I agree. I think she's thirsty for camera time. But guys, don't forget, she has never watched, she's never heard of Summer House. She doesn't watch TV except for Entourage reruns. So just, yeah. So I'm sure she's just, you know, just, you know, doing her thing. That's just how she always acts. You know, I know exactly the type of like girlfriend that a friend brings around. And you're like, first you're like, oh, no, she's really nice. And then she keeps showing up and she's acting a little bizarre at every outing.

20:43You're like, God.

20:44West Wilson:And I'm kind of like, Sierra doesn't have a lot of discernment. Yeah. I think that Ciara has bad taste in people. People. Yeah. She constantly aligns herself with people that are not nice to her. And I know we don't actually know Ciara, Sabrina. We don't actually know Sabrina. It's just first impressions. I did not get good first impressions from how she's acting, what she has even posted on social media. I'm very suspicious of her and her intentions. And now her latching on to Ciara a lot. And it's giving like she's chasing where the cloud is and she's a cloud chaser. I'm sorry. And that's the vibe I'm getting.

21:25But I think everyone's going to agree with you. No, everyone agrees. No, but I feel like some people are like, no, she's just a real girl's girl. First of all, let's retire that phrase. Girl's girl. I'm sick of that phrase. But yeah, just because we're a girl doesn't mean we have to stand up for every girl. Are you a good person? Then I'll stand with you. No, but I also think the term girl's girl is used to criticize women. Mm-hmm. It's just another way to, you know, put down women. So I am ready to retire that phrase. I think that, like, no one is a perfect girl's girl. You're lying if you say that you are.

22:00And, yeah, so I'm ready to retire that phrase. I'm curious what you guys think, though, of Sabrina. Like, have you, you know, has she grown on you? I just think that she's a fucking freak. I'm sorry. She's a fucking freak. She's a weird ass.

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28:38Can we please talk about Justin Bieber? Oh, yeah, yeah. Weekend 2. What did you think? It's very important to me that I talk about this because, admittedly, Weekend 1, I did not watch his entire set. So I was doing Couchella on Saturday evening, sat my ass on the couch, turned off all the lights, watched the live stream on YouTube. And I have never felt such an immersive experience at a show that I wasn't even a part of. I felt that the production of the remote watchers was so well done. I don't know if that's how all the Coachella live streams was, but I can speak for Justin's. It was incredible.

29:10First, he started off the show by saying, like, thank you so much. I have so much adrenaline right now. I could tell that he was far more comfortable. And just based on the conversation people are having online, Weekend 2 was, I don't want to say objectively because it's very subjective. But I think a lot of people would say Weekend 2 was a far better performance for Justin and for the audience than Weekend 1. Again, I'm not trying to shade Weekend 1 viewers because I think that was also very special. It was the first time he's performed in years. But Weekend 2 was something very special. And I think a lot of that had to do with his comfortability.

29:39I think his team and him really took the feedback on what people criticized about Weekend 1 and tried to kind of like alter the perception. And they really brought it Weekend 2. His vocals were absolutely unbelievable. I felt like Weekend 1, he was kind of phoning it in. He was a little bit nervous. But his vocals is like that buttery, smooth Justin that I remember. I hate I hate I know you don't like the buttery song I hate that no I love when I always like to describe his voice as buttery because it's a buttery voice and I genuinely started to cry in the middle of it unironically I didn't think I was going to get emotional but when he started singing one time and to see the happiness on his face was like so special I cannot describe it like I genuinely just got so emotional and let me just not talk about all the guests that he had on I I personally love Big Sean.

30:28I've been a Big Sean fan since 09. And when he brought him out for As Long As You Love Me, I was like literally singing in my couch. As long as you... I was obsessed. And the kind of speech that Sean did after when he was like, all you've given to us was just like, you give, give, give. And everyone just seems to take, take, take. And you never like let that affect you. You just want to continue giving to the world. And like you've given your entire life to us since you were 12 years old. And like, I want to thank you on behalf of everyone here and everyone watching. Like, we really respect you and thank you for all that you've done and given to us.

31:02I thought that was really special. The Billie Eilish, One Less Lonely Girl. Knowing how much that Justin Bieber has meant to Billie Eilish for since she was a child. Like, I was watching old videos of her saying, I could never get a boyfriend because I will never love him as much as I love Justin Bieber. And like, before bed, I always kiss my posters goodnight. Like, she was a believer to like the nth degree. and to see her get pulled up for one less lonely girl was so special and to see Haley like urging her to go up go up it was just so sweet and Justin just like is so hot like watching him I was like oh my god he's back he's so back so I think I completely agree with you that he seems so comfortable weekend two compared to weekend one and he was incredible weekend one but the amount of love and positive feedback he's gotten since weekend one.

31:51I feel like he just went on that stage so much more confident. Yes. And he knew that he was being received well and that people love him. People adore him. People feel such strong nostalgia for him. And I saw a tweet that was like, the world feels right when it's revolving around Justin Bieber again. It does. We all have Bieber fever. And he was going out in the audience, like interacting with fans. And he just seemed so happy and such a genuine smile on his face the entire time. Yeah. Oh, my God. He just, I loved it. There was this, he was going out into the audience a lot. And people have a lot of things to say about how the girls at the front were, like, groping him and stuff.

32:28He seemed to love it. He, like, grabbed one of their arms. He seemed to really like it. He was really interacting with the audience. And there was this one part that I thought was so sweet. There was this man. He looked like he was, like, 25, like this kid. And he didn't have his phone. every girl had their phone up right and was trying to take the video with Justin this guy was just like dabbed but like Justin people went up to him shook his hand and like the guy like didn't have his phone he was just living in the moment and it was the sweetest coolest thing like I was like this is so cute and you just know that he knew the people that were up at the front have been waiting for 12 hours like they camped out there all day he knows that those are the OG believers like even me as an OG believer you better believe I'm not sitting in the hot sun for 12 hours to be Because then you're literally missing every other set, every other musician.

33:15You sacrifice the entire day. The entire day just to get front row at Justin Bieber, which the Beliebers do. Yes. And it was just so sweet to see everyone just so happy for him. And when he did Speed Demon and he was like basically crowd surfing in the crowd, not really, but he was like leaned back so far that he was essentially crowd surfing. It was so cute to see him connect with the audience at that level. and I don't know. I just, a part of me was healed. Between that and Hilary Duff, I talked about this when I saw her back in a couple months ago in February. It was so refreshing and like, I felt connected to my younger self and I think that's what he did when he was playing his old music.

33:53Yeah, I'm so happy for you. I will say regarding Weekend 2, I was so shocked by the reception of Sabrina Carpenter bringing out Madonna. The crowd was not impressed. And I know I've never been to Coachella. So basically, Madonna comes out and you hear strike a pose, Vogue, obviously. Yes. Like, incredible. Iconic. And the audience was not excited. I think maybe it's a different generation that just does not care about Madonna that much, I guess. Or, you know, like I said, I've never been to Coachella. I don't know if they were, like, tired. You're probably really tired by the end of the night because you've been on your feet in the sun all day.

34:37But like, what the fuck was that? Yeah. The audience, Weekend 2, is getting a lot of heat. They're like, do you guys not know that you have a pop legend in front of you? And like, there will be no Britney Spears. There will be no Christina Aguilera. There will be no Sabrina Carpenter if you do not have Madonna. She paid the way for pop stars to come after her. And it's kind of funny because if you think about it, like we as a generation would understand the iconicness of her, I think Gen Z doesn't understand it as much. And to no fault of their own, like they didn't. Madonna was like, I feel like they probably the way that we saw Madonna when we were kids is how probably they see Britney Spears.

35:12So they almost skipped a generation. I'm not excusing it, but I don't think they understood the impact of what that meant for the music industry. Yeah, that was just very, very interesting. But again, I don't know. Like you could talk it up unsettling. You could chalk it up to them being tired after a long day. I don't know. Who knows? Let's touch on the Alex Cooper, Alex Earl, Brianna Chicken Fry drama. Oh, yeah. So it's funny. Shannon of Fluently Forward has been texting me like almost every day saying, if Alex Earl doesn't respond by midnight, I'm going daddy-ing. And I was like, that's so funny.

35:50Shannon's like, I'm losing sleep over this. Like, I need Alex Earl to address it. And I'm like, likewise, I really need her to just settle the score and tell us what's up. But if you guys are unfamiliar, well, sorry, before I get back to the Be Better stuff, where does Brianna Chicken Fry come into this? Because I'm kind of basically what I saw in Soviet, correct me if I'm missing anything. Brianna Chicken Fry weighed in and said, listen, I know you're releasing all the DMs between us, Alex Cooper, but let me tell you what actually happened. There was a time in life when I was a fan of you and I respected you.

36:19But I think things soured when the Unwild Network took on Grace O'Malley, when Brianna and Grace were having a fallout. And I think that's when Brianna didn't start to fuck with Alex Cooper, right? And she basically said, like, I just find you to be a mean girl. Didn't she say that? Or did they ever interact, Brianna and Alex Cooper, that made her think that? Well, Brianna, I don't know. I can't keep up. As soon as Brianna entered the conversation, I kind of lost interest. Yeah. I don't care anymore. It kind of, it just, it lost its je ne sais quoi to me. I was like, ew, Brianna's chicken fries involved?

36:52I just, this is, this is some low base bullshit. Bullshit. what's that from again um oc real houses orange county oh yeah um talking to

37:05West Wilson:yeah the restaurant the sushi restaurant yeah like i'm sorry am i the only one as soon as brianna chicken fries involved i'm like i think i'm above yeah no no i mean i think that's correct she posted some dms of her and alex cooper being cordial and settling the score because i think there are some misunderstandings between them and then they were like i really respect what you're building. And I honestly don't know. Like, I kind of was confused and part of me was convinced that this was like a PR stunt. Now I don't think it was. But the reason I thought it was a PR stunt at first is because Alex Cooper is, I said this to you, famously a pussy.

37:38She has never, ever once really stood up to anyone, not anyone that she has ever interviewed, not really even Sophia. Correct. Yep. And she is just kind of, she seems kind of, I know this sounds like a crazy oxymoron when you're describing Alex Cooper, but she does seem kind of meek when it comes to confrontation. So I just was shocked that she would like call out Alex Earl. And then Alex Earl was like, okay, I'm on it. And I was like, wait, this seems like PR. Yes. And then Alex Earl hasn't responded. And then I, you know, started to lose interest. And I also don't think that Alex Earl needs to respond.

38:15Like, I think that she's above it. She's like on top of the world. She's the it girl. She has enough going on. She just dropped a skincare line. I don't think she needs any, you know, bad PR if she says the wrong thing. And Alex Cooper, I'm sorry, no one is like standing Alex Cooper these days. I guess there is daddy gang, obviously, but I think that Alex Earl is far more relevant than Alex Cooper. And I don't know, I just I've kind of lost interest, but I will say that Be Better video, this TikToker who was like, this is what happened. It's because Alex Earle is a Trumper and her dad, her manager is a Trumper.

38:52And Alex Cooper interviewed Kamala Harris. And Alex Cooper is so liberal. And Alex Earle wanted to interview Trump or something like something about politics being at the root of it. Yeah. And to that I say that sounded like Alex Cooper PR. That sounded like a plant. 100%. And interestingly enough, to that point, Alex Cooper pinned a TikTok on her TikTok. I went on her TikTok yesterday to confirm it. She did post a video of her saying something about, like, Trump and a stripper. Hold on. I want to actually say this correctly because I don't want to botch this. Oh, she was like people that— She was shading Alex Earl.

39:29Yeah. She was like, people—I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay. This is what it says. I just saw a girl say idolizing Trump is like thinking the stripper actually likes you. And she pinned that recently. And so that's in response to, one, I think the Be Better allegations that the root of their issue stems from Alex Earle and her family being Trump supporters. Yes. And Alex Earle also posting a video of her pole dancing. So Alex Cooper is leaning into the rhetoric of, yeah, if you want to ask me, it is related to politics. I don't think it is. I think that's a very easy cop-out, Alex Cooper, because, you know, anytime that you say any influencer is a Trump supporter, people will latch onto that and attack.

40:07and she knows what she's doing when she speaks on that about Alex Earl. And not that that's not true. Like, I think that there is evidence that Alex Earl and her family are Trump supporters. 100%. Oh, no, no, absolutely. That seemed like PR from Alex Cooper. Like, it didn't seem legitimate. It's a convenient thing to just, I don't know. It's a convenient argument for Alex Cooper to have, and I don't think that has anything to do with why they are upset with each other. I actually disagree about Alex Earl not needing to confirm it. I think because Alex Earl has been, she's been pushing out so much smoke against Cooper subtly through these reposts and retweets.

40:47And once Alex Cooper demands of her to say something, then she goes silent. I think that if this were unprovoked and Alex Cooper just came out swinging and started attacking Alex Earl. Yeah, you're right. I don't need to say anything. But it's Alex Earl that has started this waging against, waging a war against Alex suddenly I think she does need to respond to it because people are begging her to and if you go to every single post that she writes the first comments with like thousands and thousands of likes are respond to it respond to it respond but we want to know so I think it's like it's one thing if Alex Earl didn't start it but now she's really started something and I think she has to respond to it to finish it now yeah exactly exactly it's but I completely agree if Alex Cooper just came out swinging out of nowhere it's like dude don't even give it airtime like you're better than this And I think for real, Alex Earl is better than Alex Cooper.

41:31And I think that the public opinion between the two is Alex Earl's is far more favorable. I think that it's more salacious than anything because all we've heard about Alex Cooper and her camp is that they're hard to work with. Matt Kaplan runs the show. She's kind of a nightmare. And I think people, whether or not we want to admit it, we're kind of waiting for her downfall. And we want Alex Cooper to kind of like put the nail in the coffin and like prove us right. And I don't know. It's just people love girl on girl crime. Like we've seen that for decades, like Hillary versus Lindsay, Christina versus Britney, Alex versus Alex.

42:03Like the media loves to spin this. And I think unfortunately or fortunately for both of them, they are playing into it super hard. And it's kind of rising both of their relevancy right now. Like we're loving this. Yeah. I also read, and I do not know the veracity of this, obviously. It was just like, I can't even remember where I read it, honestly. It was saying that the reason that Alex Cooper decided to call out Alex Earl was to take attention away from a hit piece that was dropping against Alex and Unwell Network. I don't know, again, if there's any legitimacy to this rumor, but that is also a rumor.

42:38And then another thing B Better said, and this is also why it sounded like PR, he was like, Alex Cooper was like a really good boss. And she basically was paying Alex Earl a million dollars a year, but Alex Earl wasn't happy about that. And it was basically like Alex Cooper is daring Alex Earl to speak out because anything that Alex Earl says will just make her look bad because Alex Cooper didn't do anything wrong. It seems like, you know, Alex Cooper, everyone else is an asshole. Does that make you the asshole? Because what about the daily pop culture show that got canceled after, you know, just a few months, basically?

43:11And that was three girls hosting that on SiriusXM under the Unwell Network. And they, all of those hosts have been retweeting, reposting shady things about Alex Cooper. So it seems like no podcast host ever thrives under the Unwell Network, which is what we've always said. We were like, where, like, where do these podcasts go? Like what happens to even talking about Grace O'Malley? What happened to Grace's podcast? Right. I'm telling you, the only podcast I ever hear about from Unwell is Harry Jousey's. Yeah. Like even like Avery Woods' Cheers. Yeah. Or Halle Batchelder's. I feel like Halle Batchelder's and Harry Jousey's are kind of the only ones I ever see on my algorithm.

43:49But I mean, that could just be my algorithm. I yeah, it's it's when I when I met Alex Hooper, she was very nice. but again that was in 2021 so she's blown up a lot since then but she was very lovely and so was her husband but who knows they might be nightmares to to work with and i think that it's we've always said it and i think you're the one that brought this up initially where alex cooper interviews so many celebrities and she doesn't end up becoming friends with them whereas alex earl like she has a good reputation i think in the industry she's always spotted with like eight list people and i think that's just a testament to like how she operates and how she's her reputation, I think.

44:27Your reputation will precede you, and Alex Cooper doesn't seem to have a good one. Right. That's what it seems like, at least. What do you guys think? Are you team Licks or Lex? Let us know. I quickly want to talk about Ladies of London, which I don't think you're watching, are you? No, I haven't been watching it. Oh my god, you need to watch it. You need to watch it. I know. I've been watching Rhode Island. That's my reason. I need to watch the new episode of Rhode Island that dropped last night. It's kind of like, that episode three wasn't, it felt too put on and produce. Like the women kind of are too aware of the cameras and it's kind of like annoying me.

44:58But sorry, Ladies of London. I haven't watched it yet. I watched the first two episodes, but not the third episode. Anyway, Ladies of London, Margot is, this is an incredible cast. I really like everyone, honestly. Martha's my favorite. I also like Marc Francis, Emma, Micah, Lottie, even Missy, I think is really nice. Kimmy, I will get to Kimmy. Margot is obviously the villain of the season. She is kind of the foil to the upper class Brits and the click that is Kimmy, Martha, Mark Francis, and Emma. And Emma is an aristocrat who has a gorgeous estate called Longleat. It's extremely extravagant.

45:40It is open to the public and also a safari. And it is just this, it is the most stunning home we have ever seen on Bravo, easily. Margot is the tacky American and she is the foil to the classy Brits. And they go too long late. Margo's wearing fucking nipple tassels. And she's wearing like a tank top that has like, she just has horrible taste, obviously. Like we've kind of concluded that at this point. And Mark Francis, like I said, he's like the sassy gay and he's the upper class Brit whose home looks like it is like Versailles. Just the way that it's decorated. It's like Rococo and gold everywhere.

46:22It's like very insane. And basically they're clashing because he is fake to her face and then talk shit about her outfits behind her back. And I can totally understand Margo's point of like, just say it's my face. His comeback to that is, well, darling, I think that everyone should be kind to each other's faces. Not every compliment has to be authentic. Basically saying that like, you know, be nice to people's faces. Yeah. It's the nice thing to do. You don't always have to mean it when you compliment someone. But I also get Margo's point where it's like, just say it to my face and stop being fake.

46:56Also, Margo is just so obnoxious. Like when they're at Longleat and there's a whole like, you know, etiquette sort of thing. Yeah. Especially when you're with, you're at an estate with aristocrats and you are with all of these upper class Brits. And she's being sober and she's eating before everyone else. She's asking for the silverware is. Just being like kind of like the bold and china shop. Bold and china shop. Tacky. Tacky American that makes Americans look bad. Thank God for Micah. Because I think Micah, she also is like an etiquette coach. So I think that she's doing a good job of making sure that Americans don't get a totally bad rep through the show.

47:33But she's just so obnoxious. And she is also making fun of Mark's personality and the way he talks and things about him as a person and not just his outfits. He's just making fun of her outfits. I will say, though, that Kimmy, and Kimmy is, you know, in the little clique with Mark Francis and Emma and Martha. Kimmy is also American, but she's lived in the UK for like 25 years. She seems, and I know that everyone loves her, there's something very dark about her. She goes, you're a fucking bitch. You're a fucking crybaby bitch. And, like, that's great TV and that's funny. And I think I find her very entertaining, great TV, very funny.

48:11She scares me. I'm very curious what you guys think of Kimmy. I just think that her energy is very, very, very dark. Freaks me out a little bit. It turns out, so she has talked about she is Haitian. She has a white Haitian father. Okay. Grew up in Miami, but then moved to the UK 25 years ago. So she's basically British. She has like an ambiguous, like a Dorit accent, but it's like genuine. I be. Yeah. PK. Me and PK. So it turns out that her father was involved in the brutal authoritarian regime called the Duvalier regime in Haiti, and that's why they fled to Miami when this regime was taken down.

48:51So the Duvalier regime in Haiti was a hereditary, totalitarian, why can I speak, dictatorship that lasted for nearly 29 years from 1957 until 1986. It was led by Francoise Duvalier and his son, Jean-Claude Duvalier. The regime is defined by extreme state terror, widespread human rights abuses, rampant corruption, and the use of a paramilitary force to suppress dissent. So Kimmy's father was involved in this regime. It's very easy to find evidence of this. I know that she is not her father, but she just really scares me. And I think there's some darkness surrounding her. And I'm shocked that people are so obsessed with her.

49:29I think because she's very cam. Like, I get it. Like, she has great TV. She is, like, really, really, really crazy. But she like terrifies me. I think she's someone that I'd like to watch on TV, but I would not want to be around in real life. Like, I feel like the rest of the ladies of London I could, you know, hang out with. I mean, I would definitely be the bull in a china shop at Longlead Estate. But for the most part, I feel like, you know, they seem like nice, normal, funny, kind of bitchy. But like, that's what you need on reality TV. Kimmy, on the other hand, is terrifying. So I'm curious what you guys think of Ladies of London.

50:03It is fucking amazing. I am loving the show. It's probably my favorite show on Bravo right now. Let me know what you guys think of the Margot versus Kimmy slash Marc Francis feud. I'm definitely team Marc Francis. I also am team Margot is amazing television. Kimmy is amazing television. I think that Kimmy scares me. So curious what you guys think. Well, that is some interesting lore about her father. How did you even come up? I'm telling you. Did you find it? No, it was all over Reddit. Oh. It was like very easy to find. Yeah. But yeah, I really need you to watch. No, I definitely will. It's something.

50:40Yeah, because I'm honestly like, there's not many shows. The Valley sucks. Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Oh my God. The Valley is so bad this season. No, I don't even want to watch it anymore. No, I'm like ready to call it quits also. And it's not because Jax is gone, even though I do think the show kind of centered around Jax. Of course. It's time for him to be off of television. They're just focusing on the wrong people and the wrong things. I don't want to focus on Danny and Luke trying to pressure their postpartum wives to have sex. I don't want Lala's fake storyline. Lala is ruining another show.

51:15This is why we said no Lala. Yeah. Like, we knew this would happen. Yeah. I think they need to focus on Jesse Lally because I think Jesse Lally is incredible television and is a good villain. Like, he's a good villain.

51:28West Wilson:he's great TV he's like really unaware it's so funny like he's not bright he's really not bright but he thinks he's like the smartest guy in the room he thinks he's a mastermind yeah it's giving like Jack's light you know yeah but like he's he's he's like less harmful than Jack's but I totally know what you mean like Jack's light yeah um okay should we move on to DEOs and LEOs yes okay my dark energy object is like when you have an appointment for like a beauty appointment that you make through Vegaro. Do you have you used that app, Vegaro? The booking? Oh, it's where like all my beauty appointments are.

52:02It's a lot of like vendors will use it. But basically you just, you know, you make the thing on your phone. They text you and email you. I'm not joking, six times up to your appointment. It's like, I get it. You don't need to continue reaching out to me three times via text. Hi, Christy, please remember your appointment is at 3.30 at this salon. Please text one to confirm. It's like, yeah, once I've confirmed it one time, you don't to other emails. It's like too excessive. That's not necessary. It's really not. It's like once it's on my calendar, I'll be there. One confirmation text is perfect.

52:35It's like text yes to confirm. I'm like, yeah. Thank you for the reminder. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for confirming. We're all aligned. Anything more than that, I'm like, okay. Yeah. What's yours? Mine is, we've definitely said this in some capacity before, but people being fucking rude for no reason. And I have a very specific example from the other day, end of last week, I was walking into UPS to do a return and I was with Baxter and I was literally turning into a storefront into UPS. I was turning and some bitch rushed past me and literally goes, walk in a straight line. How hard is it?

53:12And I was like, I was wearing over ear headphones. So I responded. I was like, I am walking into a store. I'm turning into a storefront. I'm not just like walking in like a zigzag for no reason. I am literally turning into a store, but she was in some rush and in a bad mood. And I also was having a really hard day that day. Like I was having a horrible day and you just genuinely don't know what someone is going through. And like, look, like I'm, I'm okay. I survived. You know, I was able to laugh it off with the UPS workers. It was funny. We were, I was in the store and I was like, what the fuck was that?

53:45They saw it and they were like, what was that? And we were like laughing about it together. But like, you don't know what someone is going through. So just be kind to people. As Natalie Joy Vile's Instagram bio says, even though she doesn't follow it herself, be good to people for no reason. Hyphen Natalie Joy Vile. I know rich coming from her. But seriously, like just be nice to people. Like it was just it was just the cherry on top of a really shitty day that I was having. And you just you don't know what someone is going through. And I don't know. I just, I found that so, and like I lived in New York for so long and I'm used to, you know, people being kind of rude.

54:23Right. That's the MO. But yeah, but I'm also more used to, I feel like the longer I've lived here, noticing how kind people can be. Like people are very kind here. Like you just, you know, I don't know. To go out of your way to be rude to someone like she did, like going out of her way, it's one thing to not be the most friendly. You don't have to like smile and compliment me. Yeah. You don't have to acknowledge me, but don't be rude for no reason. I don't know. That just it really, really, really, you know, like I said, it was the cherry on top of a really bad day. And I encourage everyone listening to this to be good to people for no reason.

54:58Hyphen Natalie Joy Vile. Yeah, I'm sorry you went through that. That would, like, trigger me. If I was already having a bad day, that would just, like, set me over the edge. Right, right. If I was having, like, a good day, that would have ruined my good day. Yeah. But if I was having a bad day, that just made it worse. Yeah, no. So, fucking—and I was pissed that she didn't—because she was wearing the over-ear headphones when I, like, clapped back. I was mad that she clearly didn't hear me. Yeah. I was like, just proof. I'm walking into a store. Right. Anyway. What a miserable woman. I know. miserable woman this is some low base bullshit my light energy object is did you watch beef no but literally my best friend texts me she goes beef is so good i was like you would love it literally i was like sophie literally put that as her lao for tomorrow oh my god you would love it okay so the first season and the second season don't have anything to do with each other the premise of the show the first season is ali wong and yes the actor's name but he's so hot um let me look it up uh so first season was incredible new season is with oscar isaac uh carrie mulligan charles melt and kay kaylee i forgot her name she played priscilla oh yeah season one and so they are completely different cast steven steven young steven yoon i don't know if i'm pronouncing his name right but he was in season one and then beef season two totally different cast it's basically just about people feuding with each other um kaylee spainy is her name and she played priscilla and she was also in uh what's it called the new knives out movie wake up dead man oh yeah with daniel d lewis daniel d lewis in that knives out and madeline klein's in it i don't think daniel d lewis was in knives out let me look am i wrong wait daniel d lewis knives out was he in knives out i'm forgetting no he was not but but the new knives oh daniel craig that's sorry that's what i I meant.

56:53That's what I meant. That's what you meant. I was like, wait, I feel like you're onto something. Yeah. I was like, wait. Yeah. She was in the most recent one. And so two completely different. You can watch either of them in any order. Yeah. I am not done with this season yet, but it is so good. It's just highly recommend. I was watching it, binging it with my mom this weekend. And yeah. So yeah, that's funny that literally both of you guys recommended this to me in like 24 hours. I was like, OK, I highly recommend like you would really like it. Um, I, yeah, my friend was like, it's like White Lotus.

57:26You don't need to watch the first, watch the second. It's like Netflix's version of The White Lotus. Like a really, really, really good, highly acclaimed, critically acclaimed anthology series, I guess, where every season is a different cast, different storyline. Got it. But the through line, instead of The White Lotus where the through line is, oh, you're staying at a White Lotus hotel and death happens. The through line is that these are just people feuding with each other. That's why it's called Beef.

57:51West Wilson:Oh, Beef. Okay. That makes sense. My light energy object is the find my device on your iPhone. I've never utilized this, but because I'm like renovating my house, I don't know where anything is. Like things are in boxes. I randomly put my iPhone case in like my center like media console. I don't know why I did that. Couldn't find my iPhone. I clicked on the little find my device and it started beeping. Beep, beep, beep. And it said, you're two feet away, three feet away. Oh no, go a little to your left. Have you ever done this feature on the iPhone? Honestly, no. It's so cool. Like you You literally, it'll tell you, go a little two feet to your right, two feet to your left.

58:26Like it'll direct you to where it is. I've done the thing where it just like alerts. It's like, oh, beep, beep, beep. Like here's where your phone is. And if you get on your laptop, but I haven't done the thing where it's like you're getting warmer. Isn't that cool? It was like Marco Polo.

58:37West Wilson:I was like, this is kind of fun. This is kind of fun. Yeah. So that's my light energy object. Despite Apple, they do so many weird things. It's like, just keep it simple. But I feel like that was a very nice upgrade to the phone. So if you guys lose anything, please make sure to utilize the check your device, find your device on your iPhone. That kind of does it. But what are we doing tomorrow on the Patreon? So let me look at the calendar. I'm like, what are we doing? Soul. Oh, oh, oh. Bachelor. Oh, no, no, no. Bachelor scandals. That's right. That's right. We are doing Bachelor scandals you may have forgotten about, you know, in light of the Taylor Frankie Paul stuff and Colton Underwood being in the news in the past few months.

59:17Bachelor scandals. So that will be over on Patreon. On Thursday, we have, I don't want to spoil it. Let's just say someone on our favorite TV network. Think of like Mount Rushmore of one of our favorite TV networks. You can guess. You'll know. If you guys are interested in coming to our live show, we have a discount code for our podcast listeners. It's BabySnark25 for 25 % off tickets. It's B-A-B-Y-S-N-A-R-K 25 at x1entertainment.com slash snarkbait. It's in the link in our show notes, patreon.com slash snarkbaitpod, where we do add free Tuesday, Thursday episodes plus a bonus episode every Wednesday.

59:55And follow us on Instagram. All the links are in our show notes. And we love you guys so much. And we'll see you tomorrow or Thursday. Love you guys. Bye. Bye.

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WELCOME BACK TO THE BEST DAY OF THE WEEK! Cheristy and Sophie are digging into Alix Earle and Alex Cooper (and Brianna Chickenfry?), Justin Bieber at Coachella weekend two, “Ladies of London,” West Wilson and Amanda Batula updates (obviously), and soooo much more.

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