Dark Energy Tuesday (Danielle Bernstein, Dylan Sprouse, Hallie Batchelder, Shannon Ford)

28 Oct 2025 · 58 min · 27 chapters

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In short

Snarkbait “Dark Energy Tuesday” episode covers (1) Danielle Bernstein’s extremely over-the-top engagement party at Aldera Manor in Yonkers, NY, (2) Hallie Batchelder’s controversial comments about condoms on Extra Dirty (Unwell Network), (3) Dylan Sprouse’s “performative” support at the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show, and (4) Shannon Ford’s recurring styes after upper blepharoplasty, plus “dark energy objects of the week” (airport terminal trains; “boy moms” calling sons “boyfriends”).

Guest backgrounds

Danielle Bernstein is a fashion/influencer figure known for highly curated personal branding. Hallie Batchelder is a sex/podcast host on Extra Dirty (Unwell). Dylan Sprouse is an actor and husband of VS model Barbara Palvin. Shannon Ford is a public figure frequently discussed in beauty/celebrity snark circles.

Key claims

Bernstein’s party looked like a wedding (veil, outfit changes, afterparty) and felt insecure/“pick-me,” with the venue described as run-down and “upstate” mislabeling. Batchelder mocks condoms despite having an IUD, conflating pregnancy prevention with STI protection and shaming condom-seeking partners. Sprouse’s endometriosis-pin gesture is framed as performative amid rumors of infidelity/open-relationship speculation. Ford’s repeated styes are attributed to poor aftercare and hygiene.

Notable examples

Aldera Manor ceiling reportedly falling; “IUD is stronger than Zeus” quote; “condom epidemic”/“kills the mood” remarks; Sprouse handing out endometriosis pins; recurring “sty gate” posts.

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Chapters

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Celebrating Milestones

0:00 to 1:05

Sophie shares her anniversary weekend and wedding memories with Christy.

“I have literally always been obsessed with Ruggable and rave about Ruggable to whoever listens, which is why I was thrilled and shocked when I found out they were going to sponsor the pod.”

Celebrating Milestones

3:06 to 6:41

Sophie shares her anniversary weekend and wedding memories with Christy.

“hi christy oh sophie how's it going it is good it is actually my first anniversary with henry which is crazy we're recording on sunday october 26 very crazy how fast a year flies by when you're having fun.”

Tech Setup Challenges

6:41 to 9:48

Hosts discuss their tech setup for the podcast and share experiences with technology.

“And I remember at the time, like you guys, you guys know the story, especially the Patreon listeners of how Starkbait got off the ground.”

Danielle Bernstein's Engagement Party Highlights

9:48 to 13:30

The hosts critique Danielle Bernstein's extravagant engagement party and its implications.

“Back of house, front of house is what we like to say.”

Cultural Commentary on Influencer Events

13:30 to 14:00

Discussion on the implications and cultural perception of over-the-top influencer events.

Danielle Bernstein's Petite Style Choices

14:00 to 18:44

Discussion on Danielle's fashion choices and the insecurity surrounding her height.

“kitten heels that are like literally one centimeter.”

Wedding Culture and Influencer Trends

18:50 to 20:00

Exploration of the over-the-top nature of influencer weddings and its cultural implications.

“fine lines and just doesn't look natural.”

Wedding Culture and Influencer Trends

20:12 to 21:30

Exploration of the over-the-top nature of influencer weddings and its cultural implications.

“Please support our show and tell them we sent you.”

Hallie Batchelder's Controversial Podcast Statements

21:41 to 28:00

Analysis of Hallie Batchelder's irresponsible comments on condom use and safety.

“You posted a clip from Instagram Reels onto our snarkbait pod Instagram at snarkbait pod on Instagram if you don't already follow us.”

Discussion on Halle Batchelder and Alex Cooper

28:00 to 30:16

Exploring the dynamics of Halle Batchelder's persona and her relationship with Alex Cooper.

“when she first rolled out Unwell Network.”
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Concerns on Youth and Sexual Education

30:16 to 30:43

A discussion on the impact of public figures on young audiences regarding sexual health.

“Because this seems like such a fucking no-brainer that I could not believe that this was, like, an actual point of view that someone mainstream has.”

Dylan Sprouse and the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show

30:43 to 34:53

Analyzing Dylan Sprouse's actions at the VS Fashion Show and public perceptions.

“Okay, the next thing that I want to talk about is Cole Sprouse at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.”

Exploration of Celebrity Relationships

34:53 to 36:42

Discussing the complexities and rumors surrounding Dylan and Barbara Palvin's relationship.

“So everyone was like, oh, my God, find yourself a man like Dylan.”

Exploration of Celebrity Relationships

37:10 to 38:07

Discussing the complexities and rumors surrounding Dylan and Barbara Palvin's relationship.

“This is my sixth apartment in 12 years in New York City, which is crazy to think about.”

Exploration of Celebrity Relationships

39:43 to 41:05

Discussing the complexities and rumors surrounding Dylan and Barbara Palvin's relationship.

“Nothing makes you appreciate good bedding more than a hot summer night, especially when your air conditioning is broken like ours was recently.”

Shannon Ford and Cosmetic Procedures

41:18 to 42:00

Discussing Shannon Ford's upper blepharoplasty and the trend among celebrities.

“This summer, Prime Video takes you back before Legally Blonde, before law school, and into the world of Elle Woods in high school.”

Shannon Ford's Styes and Cosmetic Surgery

42:00 to 45:50

Discussion about Shannon Ford's ongoing issues with styes post-surgery and the importance of aftercare.

“but I do love trolling lames from time to time.”

Airport Frustrations and Annoying Travel Experiences

45:50 to 50:20

Expressing frustrations about the inconveniences of airport travel, including long walks and bus rides.

“I just hate, I hate having to take a train in an airport.”

Carbon Monoxide Detector Woes

50:20 to 50:40

A personal story about dealing with a beeping carbon monoxide detector and the search for batteries.

“And we know that as morbid true crime girlies that it's very important.”

Makeup Recommendations and Asian-Owned Brands

50:40 to 52:20

Recommendations of a new Asian-owned foundation brand and the importance of skincare.

“Just, just in case your monoxide alarm goes off.”

Reviving Horror Nostalgia with 'I Know What You Did Last Summer'

52:20 to 54:40

Discussion about the revival of 'I Know What You Did Last Summer' and its nostalgic elements.

“I have been on a journey where I'm just like, eh, this concealer is fine.”

Critique of Acting in New Horror Revivals

54:40 to 56:00

Criticism of acting performances in the new film and a discussion about character portrayals.

“And there were a lot of moments where it's like a fucking killer is after you.”

Critique of Acting in a New Series

56:00 to 57:26

Discussion on the poor acting in a series and its impact on expectations.

“And spoiler alert, when she is revealed to be the killer, one of them, at least one of them, she does the whole, yeah, I was in love with him.”

Halloween Candy and the Joy of Treats

57:26 to 58:28

Sharing personal experiences and preferences regarding Halloween candy.

“That was the cutest thing I've ever seen.”

Candy Corn Controversy

58:28 to 59:33

A light-hearted debate on the divisiveness of candy corn.

“Well, it's our anniversary, so I'm allowed to just be lovey-dovey about Henry.”

Candy Corn Controversy

1:00:45 to 1:01:45

A light-hearted debate on the divisiveness of candy corn.

“And if it doesn't, it's not because you have bad taste.”

Candy Corn Controversy

1:03:21 to 1:04:43

A light-hearted debate on the divisiveness of candy corn.

“especially when your air conditioning is broken like ours was recently.”
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2:08Danielle Bernstein:Welcome back to another episode of Snarkbait. I am Christy. I'm Sophie. And we have a lot to talk about today. We're talking about Daniel Bernstein's engagement party slash wedding 1.0, Hallie Batchelder, Dylan Sprouse of the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, Shannon Ford, of course, our light energy objects and dark energy objects of the week. And also want to just give you guys a heads up that the timestamps in our show are approximate. We don't unfortunately get to make them as precise as we would like because of ads and stuff. So they're approximate. you might have to fidget around a little bit to get to the exact place that you would like to be.

2:48But again, we try to get them as close as possible. We're working on it, but I just want to give you guys a heads up that those are, again, approximate, not completely exact.

2:57Danielle Bernstein:But yeah, let's - You can always fast forward 30 seconds or patreon.com slash snuckbipod for ad-free episodes as well if that's an option for you. Yep. Let's get into it. Let's do it.

3:18hi christy oh sophie how's it going it is good it is actually my first anniversary with henry which is crazy we're recording on sunday october 26 very crazy how fast a year flies by when you're having fun. But yeah, so we've kind of been celebrating all weekend. I ended up buying the raw footage of our wedding day and our vows, which I didn't originally do. I just bought the wedding video, but it's been so fun watching the raw footage and our vows and stuff. So yeah, that's been my weekend. How has yours been?

3:58Danielle Bernstein:Henry is so sweet. So Sophie and I were trying a bit of a new setup today and hopefully it all works out but Sophie was texting me yesterday and I was like hey are we still on to meet at 12 p.m eastern so we can do this whole thing she goes we got a bit of a problem and I go oh what what's the problem well Henry is going to be at hockey he can't help to assist I was like Sophie and she goes you know what I'm a strong independent woman I got this on my own, but like she's a little trepidatious. But by the time we got into our meeting this morning, Sophie goes, just letting you know, Henry put this whole thing together because he wanted to give it a shot and he exceeded expectations.

4:41He really did. So like Henry's the tech savvy one. He figures everything out. He had a work trip for a few days and I thought our coffee machine was broken. It kept flashing like the juror, which I love. It kept flashing the icons and I was like, I don't know what's going on. Like I can't figure it out. He goes, the lid of the water filter wasn't closed properly. That's it. He just like fixes everything. So I really wanted him to help, but he had his fricking hockey game and I was, I was scared. I was like, I can do a lot of things by myself when it comes to figuring out technology. I'm not good at it.

5:16And yeah, so he kind of helped as much as he could. Christy helped me with the rest. We're talking basically about like a fancy camera setup that we're trying. So we have higher quality video for YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. But yeah, sweetie, Henry set up like 75 % of it. And then Christy helped me with the rest, which was great. Christy, you're tech savvy.

5:36Danielle Bernstein:No, well, it literally took me a while because I was watching YouTube video after YouTube video. But the thing about YouTube is like, it's so specific that you can say, this is the camera that I have and then tell me exactly what to do. Or I'll ask chat, GBT. I had this camera and I want to learn how to do this. Send me a video that shows me how to do this. And that's, it'll spit out a couple of videos. And, you know, that's called being resourceful, you know, which I feel like you and I both are. And, you know, with video these days, I feel like we're competing against the Logan Pauls of the world.

6:09Danielle Bernstein:Don't you feel that way? It's immense pressure. It really is. It really is. It's so crazy because I recall when we started the show or when we were ideating on the show, Sophie was in the middle of planning a wedding. She was moving. And so there was like 5 million incredibly important things that Sophie had on her to-do list in fall of last year. And we still got the show rolling. And it's so crazy to me that with the wedding anniversary is also when all these life changes were happening for you in addition to the wedding and just starting a new life with your husband. It's crazy to me that that's been a year.

6:41I know. Oh my God. It's so crazy. And I remember at the time, like you guys, you guys know the story, especially the Patreon listeners of how Starkbait got off the ground. Christy and I did not know each other well. So it's still so annoying to me that Christy was not my wife.

6:56Danielle Bernstein:I know. Like fast forward a year and you literally would have been my maid of honor. Oh, you're so sweet. No, but right behind Mandy. Right behind Mandy. No, but literally it's so crazy because now we talk nonstop. So yeah, what a difference a year can make and how far we've come as a show and how many new listeners we have since then. shout out to the OGs who were there when I was complaining about wedding planning and complaining about wedding stress. It's been a year. That's freaking crazy. I know. Congratulations to you and Henry. I'm so happy to be in your life. And he and I will chat again, sidebar.

7:36And Sophie and I were talking about analytics. And so I was telling Sophie just some numbers because, you know, Henry and I are both in finance. And Sophie was, can you repeat that one more time? Just I'm transcribing what you're saying to Henry. I'm like, you know what? Moving forward, I'm just going to text Henry and then he can convey, okay? For the record, it was a three-digit number. It wasn't some crazy, I was like, I can't compute what you're saying to me. And so Chrissy and Henry will just talk shop, you know? It's so funny because she's being so earnest. Just, she's like, wait, can you say it a little slowly?

8:09I'm just writing it down. And I was like, that's so funny. no like my least feminist take is that and I'm not even trying to this isn't a hot take it's just like I turn my brain off sometimes I feel like when it comes to the number stuff you help so much with that obviously Henry helps with that in my non-stargate related life technology I just my brain doesn't fully function when it comes to that stuff I was like social studies English class you were probably like were you like math and science no that's the crazy thing sophie i hated

8:45Danielle Bernstein:math i hated science what yes so i don't everyone's like you hated math how are you an accountant i'm like the thing about being an accountant is like you never need numbers i have a calculator and i use excel like i'm actually horrible at math i know it doesn't make sense wait that's so weird that literally doesn't make sense i'm basically just talentless i'm not good at any subject but But what I will say, I was talking about this with a friend of mine this weekend. I was like, the thing about me is I'm certainly never the smartest one in the room, but I will work the hardest. You know what I mean?

9:16Danielle Bernstein:So I think there's like people that are really smart and then there are people that work really hard and I'm never claimed to be super smart. I'm just like, I just work hard, you know? That's what's important. Actually, I had a history teacher say that to me in high school who had previously had my sister and she was like, you know what? Your sister is just so naturally smart. You're not, but you work really hard. I've never forgotten it. We're the same in so many ways. Our work ethic being one of them. And we're smart in different ways, which is why we do the show well together. Yeah, exactly.

9:48We complement each other very well. Back of house, front of house is what we like to say.

9:53Danielle Bernstein:Bingo. Bingo. Sorry, my phone just vibrated and I realized I had to put it on do not disturb. So apologies for that. Okay. We have many a topic on our notes this morning. And I want to start off with something that has been plaguing me over the last seven days or whenever the hell this happened. Danielle Bernstein. I think it's been plaguing all of us. It's taken over the internet and our group chat, unfortunately. So Danielle Bernstein, she threw an engagement party that basically might have well been a wedding. It was so over the top. It was at this French-looking chateau that was actually in Yonkers, New York, called the Aldera Manor.

10:31And decrepit.

10:33Danielle Bernstein:It literally looks so run down and haunted. Bad negative energy when I was looking at the just Google images of it. I'm like, oh, my God. Did you see the Reddit comment or maybe it was on TikTok that apparently a chunk of the ceiling literally fell on one of the guests. It's completely run down, abandoned, decrepit. And I guess it's like, were they trying to do like creepy, spooky because it's October? I don't know. But also the other funny thing about the location is that she kept calling it upstate, but it's really yonkers. Where is that? I'm not good with... Yonkers is like right, right outside the city.

11:09And it's just not... Upstate sounds more glamorous than Yonkers.

11:13Danielle Bernstein:Yeah, it's like, relax. It's 20 minutes outside the city. Come on. Relax. Yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves. And listen, I understand that being an influencer, a part of your brand is showcasing your wedding and the planning that goes into it and the vendors. I understand that's literally part of the job and that's not what I'm hating on her about necessarily. entirely it's the fact that it was so over the top for an engagement party and it's like wow there is nothing more to your personality than your nuptials it just feels so try hard so pick me and the fact that it felt like an entire fashion show for her abs and her body and showcasing how quirky she is because she eats burgers at 2 a.m it's so unbelievably pick me I could never be friends with this woman yeah so mini coop appeared to be just an accessory and what's funny is that The invitation leaked and it said the attire is old money.

12:05So for women, full length gowns or something like that. And then for men, black jeans. How are black jeans old money, first of all? And then she posted about like, oh, these croissant burgers. Oh, what is croissant burger? It's old money. So basically, I was like, what do stone fruit set up in a charcuterie board and then baked ziti pasta? all of these random food groups that she posted. I was like, how is any of this old money? I'm so confused. But yeah, it was literally a wedding. And as a former bride who had both an engagement party and a wedding, and my engagement party, I don't even know if I would categorize it as that.

12:44It was just to celebrate with our friends. Sure. At a bar. It was very low-key. This is not normal. She had an outfit change, you guys, and an after party and a veil. That's not normal.

12:57Danielle Bernstein:It's honestly very bizarre and strange. Let's call it what it is. Let's take ourselves out of the New York City influencer snark and all of just what our show is predicated on. Like, just take it for what it is. This is very bizarre. Like, imagine inviting your uncle who has no idea what Instagram is and him showing up and being like, what the hell is this? Everyone who is not familiar with Danielle leading up to this thought it was a wedding. One of the bridal accounts I follow was like she changed into a custom two-piece set after her ceremony. There wasn't a ceremony. it was an engagement party and i love the theory and like who knows like how much validity this has she's everything she does is over the top and extra so it's probably just that but there's a conspiracy theory out there that like she's maybe a little subconsciously worried that they're not actually going to make it to the altar which is why she's trying to get all of the content in yeah she had a wedding like she basically had a wedding without the ceremony there was a veil There was a full ball gown, the after party, the second look.

13:59What I also think is so funny is she keeps talking about her custom Jimmy Choo kitten heels that are like literally one centimeter. And yeah, she had to get them because no one makes kitten heels with a one centimeter heel. And it's because she's so terrified of looking taller than Mini Coop, her fiance, who, by the way, again, was just an accessory.

14:22Danielle Bernstein:I am dying at your note here. constantly hunching over her so she's not taller than him because he's clearly kind of a petite guy the term petite is so funny to me when you're describing a guy and i know it's just a way to describe someone's body type but just talking about him as being kind of petite is just like so cute and boop boop like he's so cute you know like he's just like cute he's cute and compact you know who else is cute and compact not all at once brian yes he's pink and compact oh yeah I think that Mini Coop is like a good looking guy. He's just he's a little petite. But she, I think I want to say Danielle is like five, eight, maybe even five, nine.

15:03She's not a short girl. She's taller. And so I think that it's a big fear because everything is for appearances and she needs everything to look perfect and she needs everyone to envy her life. And so she needs to make it clear that Mini Coop is actually not shorter than her. And that's why she has to wear the little tiny one centimeter heels.

15:23Danielle Bernstein:that are heinous by the way the one centimeter heel is so funny literally and everything about it you guys will have cartic our video editor post pics of what the manner looked like on youtube but her pictures and her video content looked very beautiful like it did look very stunning and aesthetic but when you actually look at the manner as a whole on google images you're like this place is seriously so scary there's like graffiti on the walls it's very run down i'm telling you if I were to bring a Ouija board to this destination or to this location, I would conjure up something like it is something out of a horror movie.

16:01Yeah. Oh, and the fact that there was a videographer there who made a video.

16:06Danielle Bernstein:You know, you have too much money. That's when you know, you guys, that is not again, that's just not normal. I'm sorry. I'm not going to pretend it is. And she could never by the way with her. Sorry, her. It's like you can never be Sheena Shea in her first wedding, her practice wedding. You know what I mean? With her wedding dress. Yes. And it was self-indulgent. Just trying to make her abs the centerpiece. And they're very likely Photoshop. So don't look at those pictures and be like, I wish I looked like that. Because if we know one thing about this influencer in particular is that she loves to Photoshop.

16:44Yeah. I just think there's something so I actually was talking to my coworkers about it at work because this has been the talk of the town, the talk of the internet. And we were like, what is it about her? That's just so irksome, so annoying. The way that she moves and the way that she photoshops and the way that she hunches over so she's not taller than her fiance. She's so deeply insecure, but at the same time is like, look how hot I am. But it's like, you're so insecure.

17:12Danielle Bernstein:Yes. And I think that's, I get we're poking fun at it, but it is so self-indulgent to a point where what are you exactly trying to prove here? And are you really trying to prove that you're so excited about your nuptials and your wedding and your soon-to-be husband? Or are you just trying to show off your body and the dresses and take it for Instagram? And I think that's what we're losing sight of with this Instagram culture and influencers whose job it is to be online and post aesthetic content. If you take a step back, what is she doing all of this for? Wedding culture has gotten so out of control.

17:46And I know we've talked about this. before, but like it really, really, really has, especially with all of these recent influencer weddings. Jordan Sloan is one of them. I know that she really hasn't posted content yet, which I'm excited for her content. I know I was just making fun of her cheesy, corny ass newlywed video just last week that I accidentally retweeted and it was really embarrassing. But her and like Ella Rose and all of these influencers that are newly engaged also like Danielle Bernstein and Acquired Style, there are just going to be so many over the top wedding looks and wedding moments and wedding content.

18:22And it's becoming such a, it's bigger than what a wedding is supposed to be about, which is just marrying the love of your life. Something about it is always just like so dystopian to me when I see how much content gets pumped out. And I understand that these are very special moments that, you know, these content creators, like you said, it's their job, but it's just, it's too much. It's too much. Yeah. Now let's take a quick break to talk about our sponsors. As I've gotten older, I've really started to lean into easy, lightweight makeup rather than heavy stuff that sinks into my fine lines and just doesn't look natural.

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21:40Danielle Bernstein:I want to go into our next topic though about Hallie Batchelder on the Extra Dirty podcast, which is under the umbrella of Unwell. You posted a clip from Instagram Reels onto our snarkbait pod Instagram at snarkbait pod on Instagram if you don't already follow us. But Sophie, I have never seen so many DMs from our listeners of people being absolutely appalled by what she was saying on this clip. And I need you to tell our listeners if they haven't gotten a chance, what the hell was going on? Oh my God. This is actually infuriating and irresponsible and just disgusting. Like one of the most infuriating things that I can think of, honestly, that we have recently covered.

22:22So Hallie Batchelder, like Chrissy said, hosts the Extra Dirty podcast, which is under the Unwell Network. And in this clip, I did not listen to the whole episode. It's just the clip that was circulating on TikTok and Instagram reels. She is making fun of condoms. She basically says, to paraphrase this clip, that she has recently reentered her hoe era, her words, and complained that the last two guys she fucked this month, also her words, wanted to wear condoms. And she says she's offended by the condom epidemic. I'm allergic, is what she said. The condom epidemic. She says it kills the mood when they're looking for condoms.

23:01She said, I don't want to have your weird offspring baby. My IUD is stronger than Zeus. Babe, pregnancy should be the least of your worries in this situation and IUDs do not protect from STIs. Oh my God. It's so crazy. So she basically says, one, it kills the mood when they're looking for condoms. And she said that basically she's saying, one, it kills the mood when they're looking for condoms. What the hell?

23:30Danielle Bernstein:What are you talking about? No. Sorry. I know. I know. It's crazy. Two, that she has an IUD. So like, it's fine. And then she goes, three, are you calling me a whore? Are you trying to protect yourself from STIs I might have? Literally, yes. A lot of them don't have symptoms, first of all. Are you regularly getting checked, Hallie? And you just said, so she's basically like, you're slut shaming me. You're calling me a whore because you want to wear a condom with me. But she just said that she entered her hoe era. Yeah. And I feel when I watched this clip, she was very focused on my IUD is stronger than Zeus.

24:12Danielle Bernstein:Being pregnant is not going to happen. It's like condoms aren't just there to prevent pregnancy. Condoms are there to protect you from diseases that could potentially, in the worst case scenario, kill you. So what are you even talking about? like she's just failing to she just is glazing over the fact of like condoms being used to prevent STIs she is so gross and I feel like the only reason I even know who she is besides being Alex Cooper's newest sidekick when Alex Earl didn't work out for Alex Cooper is the fact that like didn't her and Wes Wilson engage in some hookup allegedly anal yeah allegedly anal which is fine I am not slut shaming anyone.

24:55Good for her for being open about sex and having multiple partners, but she's not being safe about it, which is worth shaming. Because it's not just, it's one thing if you want to be lax about your own health, but she is shaming men who are trying to protect themselves and be safe with their own health, which is bad. And like you said, like some STDs can, God forbid, cause cancer. Yeah. Cause infertility, cause death. This is not something and they don't even have symptoms every single time. It's just mind-boggling. So irresponsible. So dangerous. So pick me, honestly. And she told an anecdote about the guy she was hooking up with a few weeks ago and he was looking for a condom and she goes, look at you looking for a condom and how it ruins the mood.

25:40And why do you need one? And he said, you know, I'm practicing safe, responsible sex and boundaries. And she goes, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, first of all, if a guy is looking for a condiment saying that he's trying to practice responsible sex and boundaries, like that is a turn on. That should be a turn on. Oh, my God. She sounds like a guy who's trying to pressure you into having unprotected sex. It's wrong on both ends. Men are known to do this. But even a woman doing this to a man, that's toxic and really dangerous also. And the fact that she's like proudly telling the story like it's funny and something to be proud about is so scary to me.

26:20She also said that this incident gave her the ick and she has not talked to this man since, all because he wanted to wear a condom.

26:28Danielle Bernstein:What does she think she's achieving by admitting all of this on her show? Are you trying to be funny? Is this a comedic thing? Are you rage baiting us? It has to be rage bait because I don't understand why she would even recount this, regale us with this story. It's so stupid. I feel like it has to be either rage bait or she's trying to be chosen. like she is the ultimate cool chill girl she doesn't need condoms you guys she's just chill she'll just you know I don't know it's so fucked it's so dangerous and what does this say also because this is Alex Cooper's new right hand woman at one point it was Alex Earl Hallie Batchelder is the one that is now the podcast that she touts most besides call her daddy Hallie Batchelder is at her side at every one of these Unwell events.

27:15What does this say about Alex Cooper and Unwell? Like that this is something that they promote and support. And meanwhile, we're supposed to pretend that Alex Cooper and Unwell, that they're some feminist icons. When literally the original call her daddy was not far off from this rhetoric too, where it's like, you're just a hole. But we're supposed to pretend that Alex Cooper and Hallie Batchelder and the Unwell Network haven't set feminism back thousands of years at this point. Like, no, I will never clap for Alex Cooper. I'm sorry. Or obviously Hallie Batchelder, but that goes without saying.

27:50Danielle Bernstein:Yeah, my theory about Alex Cooper kind of platforming Hallie as her sidekick right now is obviously she tried to do it with Alex Earl when she first rolled out Unwell Network. That clearly went bust. Alex Earl allegedly felt like she couldn't get the right opportunities being under that network. She felt like she was being stifled. She wasn't being compensated appropriately, allegedly. I don't know if this is in fact true, but I feel like Alex Cooper needs someone who's down to be her sidekick and not be the star. I feel like when it comes down to it, Alex Cooper is not threatened by Halle Batchelder in the same way that she was threatened by Alex Earl.

28:29Danielle Bernstein:Whether or not you like Alex Earl, watch her videos, she is a full-fledged star. Like, she can't help it. She exudes star power. And I think with Halle Batchelder, nothing about her persona like draws me in every time I see something of her I'm like I'm left feeling a little bit like that wasn't that pleasant to listen to but okay I guess if that's your thing like whatever she's right to make her own decisions but when you're platforming really unhealthy dangerous habits and making it out like it's some joke is irresponsible with the platform that you have but when it comes down to it Alex Cooper is completely not threatened by Halle Batchelder.

29:03Danielle Bernstein:She knows Halle Batchelder will never be the quote unquote star. Yeah. And she knows that Halle Batchelder is just there to just play game. She's there to just take photos with her. And that's why she keeps her so close. Yeah. And that's a really good point, actually, in terms of the context, if you don't know who Halle Batchelder is, she's known for just being, this is her persona is being messy and really open about sex and getting drunk and being crazy and kind of just being this messy, crazy party girl. And young people are really drawn to that. She is not like we're too old for her, but she has a lot of young, impressionable listeners, which is why this is so infuriating in particular.

29:41It's like she has so many young girls that think she's really cool. It's just it's really, really, really infuriating. And it feels like we have made the wrong people famous.

29:51Danielle Bernstein:And I hope it's not being I hope it's not cool these days as a young person to have unsafe, unprotected sex. Like, I hope if you're a young person listening, you know that this is not something that we should be doing. This is not how we were taught growing up at all. What happened to, like, sex education? What happened to, are the kids still, like, going to sex ed and, like, health class? Are we still learning these things? Because this seems like such a fucking no-brainer that I could not believe that this was, like, an actual point of view that someone mainstream has. Like, I just, I can't believe it.

30:27Danielle Bernstein:It's disgusting. It's horrendous. Don't be like for you guys. It's not worth it. It's not worth getting an STD that could ruin your life. Some STDs thankfully are treatable. A lot of them are not. So don't fucking listen to her. Yes, 100%. Okay, the next thing that I want to talk about is Cole Sprouse at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. First question to you. Did you watch the VS Fashion Show? Because I did not. And I think you and Olivia talked about this. Maybe I'm overstepping. I apologize. We did talk about it and we talked about both watching like clips of it, but didn't know that it was actually going to air and didn't even know how to watch it.

31:06We were just confused by it, but I saw like the clips and the big moments and stuff like that. But I'm so glad you wrote this down about Cole Sprouse and Barbara Palvin. Wait, it's Dylan. It's Dylan Sprouse. Yes.

31:17Danielle Bernstein:Yes. Dylan Sprouse. So if you guys are unfamiliar, he's married to VS model Barbara Palvin and he was accused by internet sleuths of being quite the performative husband. So if you guys are unaware, Dylan was handing out endometriosis pins at the VS fashion show, like on the carpet. And most people that are unfamiliar with Dylan or Barbara, they're like, oh, that's so cute. You know, he's so supportive of his wife's diagnosis, which sure, yes. But people were also feeling as if he was being a little bit performative and put on, like thou doth protest too much. And all of these people were coming out of the woodwork saying, listen, I know that Dylan is out here stepping out on Barbara.

32:00Danielle Bernstein:Are they perhaps in an open relationship? And I think, let's be real. Most Hollywood relationships are likely open, but the partners are basically saying more likely than not. I'm assuming the woman is kind of telling the man, like, don't make me look like an idiot, but you can't leave around with whomever you want. Just don't tell me about it. So people think that may be happening between Dylan and Barbara, but I would be remiss to not bring up the fact of how do I even know Barbara Palvin to begin with? And I know of her name because of the entire cheating scandal that happened like 2015 era when he was in his on again, off again relationship with Selena, Justin Bieber.

32:37Danielle Bernstein:And he posted a photo with Barbara and Selena retweeted it on Twitter with just a dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot caption. Do you remember this? Sophie, the Selena, Barbara, and Justin? I actually don't, but that's so one brand for Selena, first of all. Second of all, Barbara Palvin, I think just for the record, is one of the most beautiful women on the planet. I just think that she is so stunning. I love that she has her natural teeth. I just think that she's so striking and so stunning. So yeah, I can't believe that. Dylan Sprouse, what are you doing? Yeah, he is completely just being an idiot.

33:12Danielle Bernstein:Like you have one of the most stunning. She seems cool. and this is what I read in the LA Influencer Snark subreddit. So take this with a grain of salt, but a Reddit user whines about it, said while filming the duel, Dylan went to a strip club and he and his co-stars invited the dancers back to their house. One of the girls posted about it on a TikTok along with a story time plus clips and photos, but she took everything down after the video gained some popularity. There are so many stories like this one, even some about Barbara with older men as well. With that said, I think it's been speculated that they are in open relationship slash marriage, but it would be bad for their brand and the image of their relationship to admit that.

33:49Danielle Bernstein:And it's such a small corner of the internet. Someone else said, every time I see a clip of Barbara and Dylan or a picture of them, I'm flashback to 2021 when he was filming something in a town nearby in a small Canadian town. He was actively going around to all the bars and nightclubs, openly making out and hooking up with girls while he was in a full-blown relationship with Barbara. A friend of a friend who hooked up with him one night asked about Barbara and he said that they were in a relationship, but she wasn't there. So it didn't matter. Apparently he was out in 2021, just in Canada on girls with Snapchat, grabbing girls by the waist, dancing inappropriately, like something that you would never want to see your man behaving like.

34:24Danielle Bernstein:And this makes me very sad for Barbara. And I'm feeling kind of triggered by this because it reminds me of what people were saying about Sean and Nina's breakup and how they were perhaps in an open relationship that Nina could no longer handle. But all is that to say, fuck Sean White and fuck Dylan Sprouse for stepping out on these gorgeous queens. Wait, so did we circle back, though, to the VS Fashion Show where everyone was like clamoring over the fact that he was handing out endometriosis pins because she is afflicted with endometriosis? So everyone was like, oh, my God, find yourself a man like Dylan.

35:04Like, Barbara's so lucky, blah, blah, blah. When meanwhile, we all know that he has not been the greatest guy to her in the past.

35:12Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. It just feels like when you're out there doing so much, like handing out endometriosis pins, it just feels like you're trying to prove another agenda. Like you don't need to necessarily, I get like the sentiment. It is very sweet if you were faithful. But if he's out here stepping out on her left, right, and center when he's out on location filming, it just feels very put on and very. Yeah. Yeah. It's performative. I definitely feel like it's performative. And also, yeah, I feel like just their golden couple reputation, like when they got engaged, I remember it was like a Tiffany and co sponsored posts.

35:51They get, they make a lot of money and a lot of get a lot of brand deals from being like kind of a power couple, even though, again, I think that Barbara is so out of his league and I will never think that Dylan or Cole Sprouse are attractive. I'm sorry. That's just me. I can't say I disagree

36:06Danielle Bernstein:with you. Something about them, when they were on Big Daddy, that was one of my, that's what it's called, right? Big Daddy with Adam Sandler. Yeah. I get confused between Daddy's Home and Big Daddy, but that's one of the funniest freaking films of the 90s slash whatever, early 2000s. And Dylan and Cole were so freaking sweet and cute. And I think I would have expected them to grow up to be more handsome than they are. That's so mean. I don't mean that mean, but like, you know what I mean? I'm sorry. No, that's fair. And they also like to me, they're kind of those child actors that like grow up, but you still look at them and you're like, this is a child.

36:41For some reason, they just look so young to me still. I remember Cole Sproulson call her daddy where he was like smoking the cigarettes inside. And I'm like, he cannot grow facial hair. I just know he can't.

36:52Danielle Bernstein:To me, they're always like 16 or 17 years old. Yeah. Perpetually 16. Yes, I completely agree. They have this very youthful look to them, which good for them. I mean, I would like to remain youthful for the rest of my life. But like, yeah, they'll never be past that age to me. Yeah. Your home design should feel like you. And if it doesn't, it's not because you have bad taste. It might just be a budget problem. Well, Wayfair fixes that. This is my sixth apartment in 12 years in New York City, which is crazy to think about. So when you move that much, you become less and less enthusiastic about spending money on new pieces.

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41:50Danielle Bernstein:Last thing I want to talk about is Shannon Ford. And if you guys are familiar with, I used to be a Shannon Ford historian. Over the last couple of years, I kind of fell off. It just felt kind of sad to me. but I do love trolling lames from time to time. But Shannon Ford has been afflicted with perpetual styes and I find if my timeline serves me correctly, it's been around the time since she got her upper blepharoplasty. And I feel like this surgery has gotten a lot of like, I don't know, a lot of celebrities have gotten them. The person that comes to mind most notably recently is Mandy Moore. When people are ripping her apart saying that the upper left doesn't look correct.

42:30Danielle Bernstein:It looks like she's, you know, her hooded eyelids were so beautiful. Emily from RHOC is another person that I can think of who most. Jennifer Lawrence got one. Jennifer Lawrence too. Yeah. She got one a while ago though. Emma Stone, they, people are saying got one recently. I mean, we were just talking about Bradley Cooper. I feel like every celebrity is getting them. And I know we've talked about this last week on DET, but I'm sorry. Hooded eyes are beautiful. Yeah. And I'd recall when Shannon was teasing that she was about to go in for her surgery. She's like, it's over for you bitches. I'm going to look so good.

43:01Danielle Bernstein:And I was at a bachelorette party a couple of weekends ago and a girlfriend of mine who her and I were both equally trolling Liam and Shannon all the time. She goes, well, you know that after she got the surgery, you know, you have guidelines. I had the same thing when I went through LASIK. You can't drink for a couple of days, see out of the sun, all the normal things after an operation. Apparently she was like very non-compliant with the guidelines that the doctors were giving her after her upper bleph. Don't go in the sun. Don't drink. But she was doing all these things. And so everyone keeps saying, why is it that after this surgery, she's afflicted with so many size, size for size?

43:33Danielle Bernstein:It feels almost like a monthly basis. And you can get size for a multitude of reasons, unsanitary like makeup, unclean brushes. But it's like not the flex that she necessarily thinks it is. And it actually reveals that she's quite unsanitary and gross to me. Like, I don't know. It just, for someone who has, is afflicted with such a health concern all the time, why is it becoming like a funny quirk? That's not something to be proud of. like just as unsanitary and something you maybe need to revisit with a doctor. Yeah, I just don't understand why you would spend so much money on a cosmetic procedure and then not care about the aftercare.

44:09You're wasting the money then. It's not going to go, like the aftercare is probably just as important as the procedure itself. So if you're not going to follow the aftercare, then what are you even doing? What's the point? It's just like so bizarre. What even is a stye? I know what a stye is, but like what causes them?

44:26Danielle Bernstein:I think it's like you can use an old eyeliner that's expired or had like bacteria on it or unclean makeup brushes. Like it gets into your eye and it basically, it's almost like bacteria that builds up. Like, yeah, like a wound or a pus. Like, it's not that it's pussy necessarily, but it's very uncomfortable. I've had a style or two in my lifetime. They're very uncomfortable and you're supposed to apply hot compresses to reduce the swelling, etc., etc. She just always posts about it. I feel like every time I visit her Reddit snark page, maybe on a monthly basis at this point, it's always like the sty gate.

44:58Danielle Bernstein:I'm like another sty. Sty gate? It's just great. Maybe it's so much emotional turmoil from being married to lames and her immune system is being compromised. I don't know. Honestly, yeah, that's like a real thing. I feel like if you're like in a bad relationship, your body starts to just like shut down. Also, I think this is maybe hopefully the first time we've ever used the word pussy on the pod. So let us know if I'm wrong though. Not pussy, but puss. Like literally puss-y. We'll work on never having to use that word again, but. Sorry. Sorry. That's a good one. No, don't apologize. You needed to.

45:35Yeah.

45:36Danielle Bernstein:And I apologize if you can hear Hank snoring. I forgot that he snores very loudly. It's been a while since I've babysat him. So I apologize in advance 40 minutes into the show, but here we are. I love him. But no, I can't hear it personally. Okay, good. Okay. should we move into our DEOs? Kick us off, Soph. Yeah. I just hate, I hate having to take a train in an airport. It just always pisses me off. Why am I fucking waiting for a train at an airport? Why? Anything other than my two feet walking throughout an airport, I should not be required to take anything other walking down the damn tarmac or not.

46:12Danielle Bernstein:I don't even want to, I hate when I'm on an international flight. We're deplaning. then there's a freaking bus outside. Oh my God. Stop. Don't even get me started. The bus, not the bus. It's so triggering. Deplaning and then having to get onto a bus and then the bus leaves and then you have to wait for another bus just to get off the plane and go into the airport terminal. It's so annoying. I hate when there are just so many terminals and it's like, so you're in terminal eight right now. You got to get to F. The only way you can do that is with this train. I'm like, fuck, it just annoys me. I know it's not like sometimes they are obviously really efficient for some of these huge airports, but it's like maybe don't make airports that huge that you need a train to get around.

46:59Danielle Bernstein:It's it's really it's like after a long plane ride. The last thing I want to do is get on a bus or a little metro, a little monorail to take me from terminal A to terminal F, please. Oh my God, please, please. And then my other dark energy object of the week is when moms, I'm not going to say boy moms because I feel like that's turned into like a derogatory term and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, but when moms of sons that have sons call their sons, my little boyfriend, I have seen this happen way too often recently. That's not your boyfriend. That's your child. That's so gross. Isn't that weirds me out?

47:45It really brings me out. And so many people have been saying it lately. And I'm like, why can we not normalize that? That's not your boyfriend.

47:53Danielle Bernstein:It's bizarre is what it is. Very Freudian. Would a dad post his daughter and be like my little girlfriend? We'd be like, that's weird. it like it's weird you guys yes it's giving a little bit of like a freudian complex of it I think it's very Oedipus wait Oedipus yes Oedipal Oedipal complex yes you're right you're right oh oh please don't even get me started so that's just a little I just want to make sure we do not normalize that I don't know why thank you for calling attention yeah you're welcome so I know that we're talking about Hallie Batchelder was like the condom epidemic this is the real epidemic.

48:33Danielle Bernstein:Yes. It's creepy. We deal with enough creepy things on a day-to-day basis as a woman. Okay. The last thing I want to hear is you calling your son, your little boyfriend. Okay. Enough, enough. I'm tired. Okay. My dark energy object is I had come home from a trip a couple of weeks ago and I kept hearing this beep every 60 seconds. And like when I'm in a home, I don't know if it's the smoke alarm. Is it the carbon monoxide? Is it my ADT? Like I'm frantically running around and it only comes every 60 seconds. So I'm like going from room to room. I'm like, where is it coming from? And it's loud enough where it's unclear which room it's coming from.

49:07Danielle Bernstein:Come to find out it's my carbon monoxide little detector that's plugged in. Oh God. So I unplug it, right? And I just can tell it says, if it beeps every 60 seconds, it means it's low battery. Then I go into my little linen closet where I keep all my batteries. It needs AAA batteries. I don't have AAA batteries. It's 10 p.m. on a fucking Wednesday, okay? I unplug it from the wall thinking it's going to stop because I was like, I know it's not carbon monoxide. it keeps beeping. And I was like, it's 10 PM. If I don't get the AAA batteries, I will hear this all night. I was already, skincare was on, pajamas were on.

49:39Danielle Bernstein:I had to get my ass to the fricking Ralph's like a quarter of a mile away to get batteries, to get that fricking beeping sound off. It was so annoying, Sophie. Wait, could you not have DoorDash or like Uber Eats from a CVS or something? I absolutely could. But then that would be like$25. I'm like, I don't need to like, yeah you know 25 dollars i'm like i'll just get it but yes that could have been an option yeah yeah yeah but you're like oh my god that's not fucking worth it when i could just get but it's just like i don't want to get in my car and go but i have to and if i had to wait for the uber eats guy i would have heard a bing every 60 seconds until he arrived it was like torture well at least you got it figured out because having a carbon monoxide detector is really important.

50:24And we know that as morbid true crime girlies that it's very important. So I'm glad you got it sorted out and that you still have it. You didn't get rid of it.

50:34Danielle Bernstein:Yes. And I knew now I was like, always pack batteries in your home, every time, triple A, double A, and maybe even the big Duracell, like fat batteries. Just, just in case your monoxide alarm goes off. Okay. Speaking of things that lift me up, light energy objects. I talked about this on my Instagram story, but my makeup artist that did our podcast cover art she used this like asian founded foundation on me and i was asking her what it was a couple weeks after she told me i reached out to the brand they sent me like a bunch of stuff it's an asian founded asian owned brand they don't sell it at sephora it's called orsay cosmetics you don't need to be asian of course to wear it like it's foundation for everybody but it's cool that it's asian founded and they're very skincare base.

51:15Danielle Bernstein:So it felt like the color on me, I use color 550. And it's very lightweight, very serumy. And I feel like Asian people just always keep skincare on top of mind. So I just really love the foundation. They also gave me this like lippy, kind of a darker brown lippy and then like a more pink shade. So I just really like them. They didn't pay me. They just sent me like a couple things. and they sell at Neiman Marcus if you're interested or direct to consumer. Oh, RCP Cosmetics. Yeah. Love that. I love like a good recommendation. I feel like we need to start being better about that. Recommending just everyday girly pop things that we love.

51:56Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. Yeah. My favorite foundation always goes between like Dior House Labs. And this is like very similar. Just like light, sheer, buildable. And it just doesn't feel heavy. You know how some foundations can feel really heavy on your face? This one just feels like I'm putting some moisturizer on my face. Oh, I love that. I love that. Oh, yeah. Olivia and I were also just talking about the House Labs concealer last week. And I finally found like a concealer. I have been on a journey where I'm just like, eh, this concealer is fine. It gets the job done, but not my fave. I have never found a concealer that I love.

52:33And I love the House Labs concealer. It's really good. It's so good. It just like blends right in. It's not obvious that I'm wearing concealer. It's so perfect. I love it.

52:43Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. And I like the applicator too. Everything about Post Labs is like really, really good. Yeah. Lady Gaga did good. The second thing I wanted to talk about is I know what you did last summer, the revival with Madeline Klein, Chase Sui, Wonders, and the OGs, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Frankie Prince Jr. And actually, Sarah Michelle Gellar also makes a cameo briefly in the film. But growing up, I was obsessed with that entire series. I was obsessed with the Scream series. I was obsessed with I Know What You Did Last Summer series. And I felt like this was the perfect mix of nostalgia. They would use certain lines from the original in this new revival movie.

53:20Danielle Bernstein:I love the cameos from the OG cast members. I loved how campy it was. You know, my girl Madeline Klein. I love her. Love her. Chase Sui Wonders did a great job too. She was kind of like the Jennifer Love Hewitt of the revival. And then Madeline Klein was the Helen Shivers, Sarah Michelle Gellar. But it was really good. And I found out Chase Suey Wonders, she's a Harvard alum and she was a part of the Lampoon, which is the comedy. Oh, I didn't know that. And so my cousin also went to Harvard and was part of the Lampoon and I texted her and shouted to Sierra. And I was like, Sierra, do you know Chase Suey Wonders?

53:55Danielle Bernstein:She's like, yeah. Wow. You have such much more. And she's like, she was so cool. She was two years younger than me, but she was so effortlessly cool and like beautiful. And she was like, she almost had me intimidated because she was so cool. Wow. Oh. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. But she also dated Pete Davidson, which is how I found out about Chase. Yeah. She was also in, did you ever see Bodies, Bodies, Bodies? Because if you haven't, you would love it. Is it on Max? I don't know what it's streaming on, but it's really good. And she's in that. And so is Pete Davidson. I think that's how they met.

54:28Bodies, Bodies. Yes, they did.

54:29Danielle Bernstein:And on Bupkis as well, his show on Peacock. They were co-starring on both Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and Bupkis. You would really like it. But yeah, I really enjoyed it. It's like it was silly and campy. And there were a lot of moments where it's like a fucking killer is after you. Why are you going to a steam room, you idiot? There were so many moments where Henry and I were like actually cracking up. It was so dumb. What's so interesting also is that and spoiler alert. Fast forward if you don't want spoilers for the I know you did last summer new movie. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Fast forward.

55:04So Sarah Pidgeon, who plays, I think her name's like Stevie or something. So Sarah Pidgeon, fun fact, is Carolyn Bissette Kennedy in the new Ryan Murphy, JFK Jr. Carolyn Bissette Kennedy show that everyone was making fun of the looks and how much she did not look like Carolyn Bissette Kennedy, either physically or style wise. the hair was off, the outfits were off, everything was off. This role did not give me hope for her acting in that show.

55:42Danielle Bernstein:I had no idea who she was, but it was bad. It was so bad. It was so bad. It was so. And do you know whose was even worse? Freddie Prince Jr. Oh, I didn't notice his being that bad. But honestly, yeah, now that you mention it. But when she because she basically, again, And spoiler alert, when she is revealed to be the killer, one of them, at least one of them, she does the whole, yeah, I was in love with him. I was in love with him and he's like, yeah. And she does the whole crazy like, and I'm like, no, that is so cliche. You could barely understand what she was saying. She was like mumbling and talking really fast.

56:24The delivery was like everything about it was like the worst acting I maybe ever seen. So now I just, I do not have any hope for her portrayal of one of the most iconic style icons in history, Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. This is something I would have been very, very, very interested in watching. And now I'm like, goes out the window. I'm sorry. Yeah. Like the acting. So not just like the outfits that leaked where everyone was like, this is so bad. This is not anywhere near what she would wear, but also the acting is going to be bad. I just know it

56:56Danielle Bernstein:will be yeah no i completely agree it was really cringe and i remember freddy prince jr and the og series him being so awful as well and i'm like oh my god he's so rusty because it's been a hot minute since he's been in anything yeah i was cringing the entire time at his acting like this can't be real get him off the screen it was so uncomfortable but we've heard that michelle geller is such a queen we've heard that she's a very nice oh yeah sweetheart sweetheart from everything I've ever heard about Sarah Michelle Gellar is that she's such a freaking sweetheart IRL and she I thought her cameo was amazing but just the Sarah pigeon I was in rehab with him and we I wanted to get revenge I wanted to stay there that night you guys made me

57:49I'm sorry it was so no it's funny because like your mic was cutting in and out when you were going to high pitch, but your faces were still being so like animated. It was so funny. That was the cutest thing I've ever seen. My mic can't handle it. No, literally. Please. Jordan's like going to kill us. I know. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Okay. So my light energy object, along with I know you did last summer reveal, which I also watched this weekend and really enjoyed besides the aforementioned bad acting. I love candy porn. It is so good year after year. I feel like it's very polarizing. A lot of people hate it, but we did.

58:24And this is another cute little Henry-ism. I'm sorry. I feel like I keep talking about Henry. Well, it's our anniversary, so I'm allowed to just be lovey-dovey about Henry. Henry was like, let's put out like a Halloween candy bowl this year.

58:38Danielle Bernstein:You know, I've never done that, even though I live in like a neighborhood. Oh, it's so dangerous. No, no, no. Like it's not outside. It's literally just for us to have. And I'm like, this is so dangerous for me because I'm nonstop eating it. Oh, yeah. But we have candy corn and like M &Ms and like pumpkin spice, like little Hershey nuggets. But I'll just do a couple bites of candy corn mixed with M &Ms. That combination, you guys, trust me. So fucking good. God, that sounds really good. I love candy corn too. But I know they're a very divisive hot topic in the candy world. You love or you hate.

59:13Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. But over here at Snark Bay Pod, we stand with candy corn. We hear you. We see you. Yeah. We stand with you. We eat you. We're team candy corn over here for sure. So let us know you guys, whether you like candy corn or not. And what you think about everything we talked about. Shannon's upper bleph, Barbara and Dylan. Hallie Batchelder, Danielle Bernstein. Yeah. All of it. So thank you to Jordan, Rachel, Olivia, Kartik. Follow us at snarkbaitpod on Instagram. I'm at Kristi Noel underscore underscore. Sophie is at soap underscore Ross. We're over on TikTok snarkbait pod over there as well. And we'll see you guys tomorrow for another Patreon episode bonus.

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10:00 -- Danielle Bernstein’s Engagement Party

20:00 -- Hallie Batchelder

33:00 -- Dylan Sprouse at the VS Fashion Show

39:00 -- Shannon Ford

43:00 -- DEOs and LEOs of the Week
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