Dark Energy Tuesday (Halley Kate, Blake Lively/Taylor Swift Texts, Sydney Sweeney, Nick Viall & Natalie Joy) 

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32:59okay cool let's move on to the nick and natalie new show trailer i cannot fucking believe that they're airing this first of all natalie joy has the worst fucking pr right now after the austin crawl so like what was this cliff you fucking moron unempathetic mean girl yeah stop but the fact that they showed her on the netflix trailer of like what's your age again or whatever this weird age difference dating relationship show is going to take us why do you think they showed her but not nick if anything i feel like they should have done the opposite do not show natalie but you can show nick first of all why do you think that is and second what did you make of this trailer that just dropped i honestly have no idea why they choose to show natalie like that makes no sense to me.

33:41Like she's never, I don't watch the vile files, but like, she's from my knowledge, never shown any like good hosting or interviewing skills. So I never not like she's like, she's pretty, I guess, but like, I don't really think that that's necessary. Um, yeah. I mean, Nick's like boring, but like, I, I feel like it was a really weird choice to not show him, especially with all of her bad PR. Um, I am like known for like, just liking bad shows. Like I'll like watch a show and I'm like this is amazing you and me yeah and everyone's like this is a piece of trash I'm like oh no all her fault justice for all her fault on Peacock did you watch that I did watch all her fault yeah I was so good literally I was like that's an Emmy worthy show everyone's like are you fucking joking me that was so soapy I'm like I I loved it I finished it in two days I'm like easily pleased same I watched it so quickly I'm like that was amazing one of the best shows of the year dare I yes no fucking come for me baby don't come for me and I thought the beast in me just okay don't come for me I'm sorry I didn't finish it

34:43that's because we have taste I assure you you will finish it in a sitting but continue I'm sorry you and I are the same literally oh but yeah I probably will watch it um what I think is interesting about the show and like obviously we're only getting a glimpse from like the trailer is that they're showing these people and like yes I guess I kind of have a hard time guessing what their ages are so they probably picked people that are like kind of like um ambiguous in like what age they are but like I like in normal life I feel like I can tell the bracket of someone's age like if I'm at a bar I'm like I know when someone's 21 or I know when someone's like in their 40s so I'm just curious as to how this will work like will it actually be um difficult for them to guess and the one woman in the trailer that like she was like oh I would set him up with one of my daughters like I guess I can't really figure out how old she is but I was looking at like someone like Nick Viall like he's not a spring chicken anymore like you look 45 so like I just don't I don't know it's a weird how old is he I don't even know 45 I looked it up but I did I didn't know he was in his 40s god I fucking hate him yeah me too but yeah I'm curious as to what you thought I mean we barely have anything to go off of the trailer is so short but yeah and the trailer really just focused on this young sprightly looking guy I assume maybe he was in his late 20s the woman looked maybe late 40s but they seem to be getting on just great and of course the second i think sophie sent it in our group chat i was like yep gonna be watching this this looks incredible even though i hate nick mile and natalie i'm like me and rachel will report back and dare i say we can even have a patreon like live live chat oh by the way that's another housekeeping thing i forgot to talk about up front tonight we're doing a summer house live chat for a business runner tier only we're watching summer house live and in color and we're going to be live chatting the entire way through we did this last season last year for the season nine premiere and that was one of my favorite live chats i know you're not a bravo person but i implore you to watch i will totally tune in i will i will join yeah no i need i gotta start somewhere yeah and i think summer house is an easy lift but right no i think that the natalie and nick show unfortunately rachel and i will likely be watching this and we can report back and we can watch it for you so that you don't have to give them the downloads because we don't want them to have any more cash in their pocket but unfortunately my morals will have to be what's the word set aside yeah set aside like my morals will need to be set aside because i love trashy tv and it's so funny sometimes i'll see these comments of people being like god i kind of like that show that chrissy was talking about too like do i have bad taste and let me assure you don't let sophie shame you to think you have bad taste.

37:19I think we have eclectic, fabulous taste. We welcome you with open arms. Yeah. Okay, let's move on to Sydney Sweeney's lingerie brand. I have no idea what she's doing. Rachel, I know what is going on. Okay, when you first saw this, because I believe the campaign dropped by the time this this airs, like five or six days ago, and we all knew she was hanging around jeff bezos and lauren sanchez and she was allegedly starting a line with amazon for her own lingerie band what is it called siren um yes but it looks like cern cern okay there goes but yes it's supposed to be siren but cern got it okay so we knew this was coming and i think last week tmz reported that she trespassed climbed her way up the hollywood hills up to the hollywood sign and was throwing bras onto the sign that is trespassing.

38:14People were saying she could face charges for trespassing, et cetera, et cetera. And then the day that that TMZ article came out, the same, the debut shots of her with her campaign were coming up. And I was like, these photos, like, I guess sex sells. So it'll probably do what I'm assuming to be well. Like, I feel like she would appeal to a lot of maybe Midwestern, older millennial women that want, I don't know. But what did you make of these photos of her campaign photo shoot? It's like, it's just kind of jarring. And someone said this on Reddit. It was the Reddit user zealousideal-me885. The marketing being sexy and playful while the brand identity gives press juice bar is funny to me.

38:53And that's what it is. Because why do we have this fuck ass lime green bubble lettering? And then Sydney Sweeney like pushed up against a vanity. Like I don't, I don't like really get what it's trying to like say with that. Like it's, it's interesting. And, and I, I saw, I think it was Tana Mojo that was talking about it on TikTok. She's like, market to men, market to men. Like, because I don't really understand like the like, sorry, my lip gloss. I don't really understand the like the point in her marketing to women because like, I just don't think that's like she has a lot of like female fans at the moment.

39:26Like, I don't like with everything that's come out. Like, I just feel like, you know, go do like something for the guys, I guess. I don't think this is going to be a great business venture. Like I'm not going to buy any of the lingerie. But if it was someone like, I mean, I'd sooner do like, if Amanda Seyfried wants to come out with a line, I'm there. I'm a person in line. I love her. You know what? Actually, I'm glad you bring up Amanda Seyfried because I talked about how she was the one that plugged the bronzing glow that is in our sub stack. But my sister has actually met her because Audrey was listening to our episode and she's like, you know, I met her one time at a coffee shop and she did this.

40:01She did a movie, I think, with Channing Tatum. It was like way back in the day, 2010 or something. maybe it was that movie whatever she was a guitarist and a singer and audrey learned like the strings of the guitar from the song and she approached amanda at this coffee shop and she goes hey i just wanted to let you know i'm a huge fan and you actually like your guitar song that you played i like taught myself and i play it all the time and she was like genuinely so thrilled that my sister one approached her and two told her that she inspired like her learning these chords on the guitar she said she was just like so sweet so small and just had like very good energy about her and I feel like if I were to run into Amanda Seyfried, she would just be like a delight and so normal.

40:40Doesn't she appear so normal to you? Yes. Like I just feel like she is the epitome of someone that's just like stayed grounded. And again, this is so parasocial because I don't know her, but like she has just seemed so normal. And I could be wrong, but I think she's from Pennsylvania or her family is. Cause like, I remember like I had like a friend whose mom's coworker was related to her or something. But like, I love my girls with Pennsylvania roots. um Taylor Swift included but yeah she's always just seemed really like sweet and normal and she's just so talented and you can really see that in the house made because like Sydney Sweeney is not as talented yeah how was I know you watched it in theaters so with Sydney Sweeney's performance she's kind of a dud because it sucks I really liked her Handmaid's Tale and Euphoria but what was her performance like in that movie I will say for the character of Millie because I read all the book and she is more dynamic in the books but I would say like the movie is based on the first book and I don't think she had to be any better than what she was but Nina who Amanda played is a way more complex character so like you needed someone that could like really do the range of that so like Sydney was fine in the movie like it didn't her acting didn't like completely take me out of it I do feel like there were better options like maybe like Victoria Pedretti would have been a great option as Millie I just love her so put her in anything put her in anything um there I think there would have been better options but it wasn't awful like it was I enjoyed the movie but Like that's that kind of movie is like my bread and butter.

42:04So yeah, I have not seen it, but I was really excited to see it. So I'll probably just wait for it to come to streaming. But at least like you said here in your notes, the sizing is 30 B to 42 triple D. So at least we love that the size sizing is incredibly inclusive. But I can't help but wonder, is she rage baiting at this point? Is this part of the shtick? Because everything about her just brings really, really strong feelings. whether you're a guy who thinks she's super hot and anything she posts that you'll like it on Instagram or you're a woman who's outraged by like the hypersexuality it kind of almost reminds me of the reactions women had not men women had to Britney Spears when we were kids when Britney Spears did the slave for you music video and everyone was like how could she be like talking about sex being a sex slave being in this like hot warehouse rave in Thailand like shaking her ass whatever her boob implants people were so viscerally like disgusted with britney spears and that was the early 2000s late 90s but i feel like with sydney sweeney it's like that but a different font almost yeah and i'm not even claiming that they're necessarily well i guess they are kind of the same um i guess maybe sydney sweeney just knows what brings in money and she's leaning into her very like uh well-endowed chest and her body and her appearance because she's like the hottest girl on the planet and maybe she just is doing it for cash but i just i don't understand her just what her angle is between the politic thing and and yeah people accusing her of being a trump supporter which again it's like you can be trump's and also not racist but i mean that's a whole other topic but i don't know she just i don't know what direction she's going in right i well i think that's a great comparison that i had never thought of was her and britney spears because you think back and like so like for me it poses the question 10 15 20 years from now will we look back at this and like celebrate sydney and i know that sounds weird not for the politics stuff but like for the like sexualized stuff yes you know we look back at that like um that news uh cast where they were like um if you seek amy like don't let your kids listen to this it's not it's not what you think it is and we're all like yes britney like you know we look back at it in such a different light so that's so interesting like will we look back at this and be like yes Sydney like sell that bathwater and like make that money which I'm not saying she can't now like I'm not saying that like I'm like oh how could you do that like by no means like make your make your bread like you know but um yeah no I feel like overall the public consensus is very negative towards Sydney at the moment especially as she's doing all of these business ventures um and it was towards Britney at the time but like right public opinion shifts so right interesting And nostalgia and hindsight is 20-20.

44:44And I think maybe the difference, and I was much obviously like young when Brittany was receiving all that criticism, but I do feel the political climate is very different now. So people are already enraged by what's happening in our administration. And they feel like artists, which actually, interestingly enough, I came across this quote that she said in the Cosmopolitan article, which is where she is in that pink getup and she's pushing up her boobs. she said quote no i'm not a political person i'm in the arts i'm not here to speak on politics that's not an area i've ever imagined getting into it's not why i became who i am i became an actor because i like to tell stories but i don't believe in hate in any form i believe we should allow each other and respect we should all love each other and have respect and understanding for one another so i think maybe her constantly skirting away from her political affiliation coupled with the fact that she's leaning in so much to her sexuality i think enrages people in such a way that it didn't necessarily with Britney but again we could be saying something completely different in 2040 also like baby like art is political it is like I saw that quote and I'm like I get what she's trying to say is she's like trying to like you know it's the PR response like I'm not political I'm just here to like make art and act but like art's a reflection of the world that we live in so like therefore it is kind of political inherently is whether you like it or not it is inherently political sure yeah and i think given i mean she kind of put that whether she intended to do so or not with the make america great again adjacent mother's 60th birthday party milestone birthday party she kind of unfortunately for herself put herself in this position where people can't unsee it right yeah i mean i've never unseen it since then and i like when she first i never watched handmaid's tale which i i really should because everyone tells me I would like it um euphoria I was like such a Cassie apologist I was like I love Sydney I love Cassie like I I was just really into it and then like you're losing me yeah so sorry Karthik remove that I'm just coughing um okay so I agree we I I'm actually really curious to see the baby snark opinion on Sydney because she's incredibly divisive and if if she makes you tick I'm curious like what exactly is it her lack of speaking out against the administration like what about it because i'm genuinely curious to hear from you guys let us know on the instagram comments at snark bay pod or on the spotify comment after years of really not caring about my health as much as i should one of my goals this year is to finally change that part of that is getting older i won't say exactly how old i am but let's just say i'm at the age where it's really starting to matter how i treat my body and my brain health and i know plenty of you millennial baby snarks are probably having similar aha moments.

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52:22Silicon Valley hot mom or hot mom walks or whatever. she created such a niche type of content that a lot of people were not doing at the time she was kind of the founder the mother of tiktok and i find that her content and granted i don't consistently follow her so this is just my reaction to things i've just seen that have popped up on my page it seems through just looking at her instagram it seems very body checky to me in fact everyone knows that i've had like a history with eating disorders and like um so for to me i'm very much past that but i think watching someone body checking the way that she does, it's not that I'm necessarily triggered by it.

52:54It's more so I feel deeply sad for a person who, I mean, Tings and I are about the same age. She's a little bit older than me, but at our big age, you know, it just makes me sad that people that are so beautiful and so accomplished and so successful that have so many like accolades on their belt, Forbes 30 under 30, two-time bestselling author, huge Instagram presence, TikTok, your name is everywhere that you're still so focused on your body. Like it just actually makes me sad. And I think Like people are criticizing her for wanting a boob job. I don't care. Get your boob job. Feel great about yourself.

53:24I think it's less so about the boob job and more about feeling like her whole brain is just body checking and like checking herself out through her weight loss or her thinness and whether or not she's on Ozempic or not, whatever, it's your choice. But I just like don't like watching her because it actually makes me sad. And I know that's like it could be a sensitive topic for some people, but it's I know she triggers people and rubs people the wrong way for maybe different reasons. but I think this is why I can't necessarily, like I don't love watching her stuff because I'm just like, you were just going through a journey that I've gone through that is like deeply sad to me.

53:58And this is me projecting, like this could not be her experience at all. This is fully my own projections based on my own lived experiences. If she's happy, I'm so happy for her. But it's more so just, God, just you were a brilliant, cool woman. You don't need to be like doing that. I don't know. Right. I mean, I'm not someone that really followed Tinks and I, like even from the start, like obviously I know who she is. listened to your our deep dive on it like um whenever that was a while ago um but it like it you know your body her body is the least interesting thing about her like she's an incredibly successful creator like especially like you know she started in 2020 like you said maybe even earlier like she's one of the ogs um and to me it kind of seems like and this is completely speculation but like when she achieved all of those amazing accolades like i guess maybe you just like start like wanting more and more like you know like it's like she's already so impressive and like uh and you know achieved all these feats like then maybe now she's like well maybe I could fix this about myself or fix this and I say fix in quotations because there's nothing to fix right um yeah I don't know it is really sad but I I've never really followed her too closely so I guess I don't know like the difference in like how her content has shifted right and and that's a good point because I I don't know her content well enough to know whether or not it's been a significant shift shift but every time I go on her page it's like her body checking and if you guys aren't familiar with body checking like when i was in a treatment center you were heavily discouraged from even looking at yourself in mirrors definitely don't take pictures yourself and if you can potentially uh have the self-control to avoid it do not look at yourself in the mirror because your body excuse me your eyes are seeing things that aren't necessarily true or the way that your body looks in one room where the lighting is different will look significantly different in another room and like that i know for fact having been in recovery for a very long time like you cannot trust what the picture of the mirror is telling you or what your camera phone is telling you like genuinely you cannot but every time i go on it jesus christ just stop so i don't know i i genuinely mean this with the utmost care i don't want to make it seem like i'm being mean it's just again at our big age let's just like focus on like what you've accomplished which is a badass um last thing i want to touch on before we get into our deos and leos is the amtm america's next top model documentary beautiful girl beautiful girl Oh, you guys know we're like an ANTM coded podcast.

56:12What were your thoughts? Like first, what did ANTM mean to you growing up? And what were your thoughts when you saw this talk come out? Everything. I loved it. It was Survivor and ANTM. Like I was like, I can do both, first of all. But I was obsessed. Like I remember like finding it, you know, sometime in my young age and being like, this is everything. And I went back and I rewatched all the cycles. and it was so much fun like helping out with research for the ANTM episode because it like brought back so many memories because I haven't I re-watched it during COVID it was like my COVID show um and where is it streaming is it I don't know where it is now because that was like in 2020 I watched it and probably on Hulu I think I watched it but yeah um it's a good re-watch I mean obviously there's so many cringy moments and um speaking of they show like they touch on a few of them in the trailer like obviously so briefly I feel like you know the big ones like um race swapping photo shoots uh no one never fails to make me laugh it never fails on him and like I mean it was like it's just so wild that like no one stopped it I mean like I would like one thing Tyra says in the doc and I wrote this out she says something like we knew it was too far but the fans just kept pushing and pushing I was eight like I didn't know what fan was pushing we're eight I didn't even know anything about anything like I was just enjoying the photo shoots the challenges like uh so tyra that's on you and your whole team not on us and i think we were asking you to race swap okay give me a fucking break i didn't like force danielle to undergo surgery to close her gap like that was you so it seems like they're touching on a lot of those things but i'm i'm curious if they're going to kind of like give excuses or like what the whole deal is going to be there like it will really be accountability or is this kind of like uh pr like let's just make everything like put a good taste in people's mouths for a and tm for the rest of history or whatever yeah that was it truly was such an iconic show when i was in high school i would go to my friends houses and we would watch like have live watch viewing parties and for some reason this one season really sticks out at me and i'm curious if you watch the season where whitney where the and i'm putting this in their quotes the plus size model who was like it was like totally normal not plus size yeah like literally such a normal beautiful body I mean not that big bodies are like you know what I mean just like a normal just simply not plus size simply you can't gaslight me into that one I was like she's a normal beautiful just simply not plus like exactly sorry I'm not saying all bodies are normal you I sorry I didn't mean it like that just no you're right just she was not plus size period and for some reason I just think back to that season that one sticks to me i think probably because i developed an eating disorder when i was in high school but i'm like wow the fact that i thought that was plus size i mean we were fucked up as a society in general man but it's funny because when this documentary dropped on netflix we have never received so many dms i'm so glad we should do like a live something live for it yes i think we gotta do a live live watch on patreon when it airs because i think this would be so funny to watch and every time we think about the race swapping episode i think about the survivor episode when Sophie said that they divided.

59:24Yep. Cook Islands. They divided the teams by race. Like why? Like so all of these decisions have to go through so many people. Wasn't that like, it was like 2019 when that, I actually don't know. I made that up. I don't know what year. It was, it was a lot earlier. Cause it would have been probably, and I might be wrong. It was like early 2000s. Like maybe it was, it was season 13. So maybe like 2007. Yeah. It was like a very, it was just such a normal thing. We just didn't even bat an eye. god that's so yeah that's so funny yeah remember when they race swapped what is that they were just doing anything like whatever they wanted yeah that will never not be funny to me okay let's get into our deos and leos of the week okay i'll start with mine my dark energy object of the week is getting sushi and ordering too much and then putting in the fridge and acting like you're gonna fucking eat it the next day you will never eat it the next day stop kidding yourself just buy what you know you can consume within that next two hours of you eating.

1:00:24Otherwise, it's going to go to waste. Like it sucks because sushi is so good and it's so damn expensive, but it's good for two hours only. Yep. The fridge is where it goes to die. Yeah. Who are we kidding when we put it in there? No one. Yeah. I never touch it. I completely agree with that. My dark energy object is dating apps because truly like, you know, that TikTok sound. I think I'm going to die in this house because when I first downloaded and it made me think about it during the Whitney Wolf heard episode when I first downloaded Tinder and college freshman year, it felt like a whole new world of opportunity.

1:01:02Like it felt a little taboo. I was like this, like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm doing this. Like, but I just get to swipe through guys and decide if I like them or not. The novelty has worn off. I'm over it. It's been a lot of years. I didn't know it was like a permanent thing for me to be on dating apps on and off. So I'm ready to be off of them, but like, there's just no other way to meet anyone. So no one talks to each other anymore. No, no, no. Everyone's on their phone at the bar, including me because I'm always on my phone. Yes. We're on, we're at the bar on the app, hoping that the guy we see on the app is in front of us at the bar.

1:01:33Yeah. No, like that's, you know, we'll meet up with us, but even he's like, you're, you're even settling for him. Like he's like a six out of ten but it's just the only person so but dating apps yeah they're really fucking bleak these days so it's it's really but I just like every time I open it I'm like I'll open it for two seconds and I'm like oh my god I can't do it anymore yeah no no like it's too much okay my two light energy objects okay this is more like health and wellness focus because behind the scenes it has just been I've just been grappling a lot with anxiety and stress yes and although I don't show it on the podcast it's just been like a rough month for me and I do think there are two things that have been helping me start my day first I just naturally wake up really early usually for the podcast but I want to make sure that when I wake up early I do two things and this is have you seen those TikTok like I'm now Chinese like those those TikToks of people doing Chinese trends no I haven't okay this is literally just my algorithm probably Probably because I am, in fact, ethically Chinese.

1:02:32But you know that womanji shang tu? You need to send me these. Oh, my God. Sorry. This is, like, so niche. Okay. But basically, it's, like, usually it's so funny. It'll be, like, any non-Asian person saying, like, being a Chinese baddie. And they'll wake up and they'll make this hot water with lemon. I have a lemon tree in my backyard. It has the juiciest lemons. So now, every morning, I've just been drinking hot water with lemon because I'm a Chinese baddie. And it has been making me incredibly regular and my digestion literally 10 out of 10. Like it's never been so good. And I think it's because of the hot water with lemon.

1:03:09So that's my light energy object and really just the Asian baddie TikTok in general. It's just very funny to me. Number two is one thing to really ground myself. And when I was going through like a really stressful period last year, a lot of baby smarks, snarks, snarks, reached out to me and said, go outside and put your feet on the grass. So I've been doing that in my backyard in the morning with my hot water and my lemon. I'll go out and step on my grass in my yard, look out to like the hills, and I'll just feel very grounded and peaceful. And I feel like that's been starting my day off really well.

1:03:40I'm still stressed as hell, let's be honest. But I like to start my day off early and like grounded physically. That sounds amazing. That's my light energy object. And I encourage all baby snarks if you're dealing with beginning of the year fatigue, stress, anxiety, feeling pressures, just start your day off with hot lemon, hot lemon water. and see how that helps you at least with your digestion so you're not feeling as bloated and uncomfortable during the day so yeah what's yours mine um mine are kind of like traders themed um so colton underwood finally getting the fucking hate he deserves i feel like it's about it's about time and i know like maybe not everyone's quite on the bandwagon yet but i feel like it's starting to the tides are shifting or whatever the saying is like things are changing and i'm excited about it because I've been a hater from day one.

1:04:26Same. And I just like I just he's so evil to me. Like he is the definition of dark energy. His eyes scare the hell out of me. And not to plug myself, but I posted a tick tock or a reel at Chris, you know, well, underscore underscore, Michael Rappaport started commenting on it. Like he chimed in on my comments. People are fighting in the comments. And to be clear, when I did this tick tock, I had no idea about the harassment allegations that Michael has had again his ex-girlfriend like I just knew the only thing I knew about Michael Rappaport was what he was presenting on the trailer so I admit I did not know his problematic history so take that with a grain of salt when you watch it but it's popping off because people are fucking pissed they're like this is the first time I'm hearing about Colton Underwood and it's like babe I've been here since 2019 I remember where I was when the tracking device stories and the temporary restraining order got signed he's been sucking yeah no he has been So thank God that people are starting to catch up.

1:05:24And the best part is, is I bet he thought like going on The Traitors would be like a good thing for his career. He thought he was going to like recover, bounce back, be asked back on so many shows. He thought he ate and he didn't. So I'm happy about that. And then my other light energy object are like those little TikTok editors that are working overtime making Rob Roush edits like there's no tomorrow. Thank you. Thank you. Like before I even finished the episode, I'm seeing the thirst trap edits and it's just me and Rachel are unhealthily obsessed with Rob Roush. Like genuinely, I texted you this last night.

1:06:00I was watching Traders last night by myself on the couch. And every time he came up, I would vocally say, my God, he's so hot. Like he is one of the most beautiful men I've ever seen in my life. I blush every time I see him. no like how and i it's so funny because you can tell the reason he has such a chokehold on everyone in the castles because they all think he's so fucking hot yeah they're obsessed with him yeah like johnny johnny's like god he's so fucking hot like i felt heard like yeah it's like he's like annoyingly hot like and like he knows it but like he's just so smart it's so good at the game it like hurts me that i will never be with him do you know what i mean he just is so richel goes i think I can change him lol like just get like I just need to like meet him in person like yeah it'll be totally fine so Rob if you're listening I'm single no you guys are totally age appropriate to like that would be a great match yeah yeah okay no one one more though oh oh yes my honorable mention the edits of Brie and Wrigley like our secret moments in a crowded room they have no idea about me and you oh see moments in a crowded room no I have not watched last week or this past week okay tell me lies but god that show so it's I I really like them together um like Brie was always my favorite and now like Wrigley's really winning my heart too and I'm like I just I love all the theories but yeah the edits of them just like longingly like it's just the definition of like yearning and I think that's why I liked heated rivalry so much I mean obviously great show for so many reasons but it's like bring back yearning like yeah that's what I want to see like I want to see a like well they won't they they can't but they want to but you know all of that yes people say that Bree's character is the most complex on the show which I think is totally valid she's such a good person she has so many demons and so much trauma I'm really really rooting for her.

1:07:58We should do like a live show for that too on like maybe the season finale. I'm very excited. Every time the show ends, I'm like, damn, I wish there was another episode waiting for me. It's so fleeting. It's a really, really good show. So thank you so much though, Rachel, for joining us on DET. This was so much fun. You did such a good job. And do you want to tell people where to find you and anything? I don't know. Sure. Plug anything. Really just my Instagram. It's Rachel McQuiston. M-C-Q-U-I-S-T-O-N is my last name. Rachel's just R-A-C-H-E-L. And I'm so happy I got to do this. It's been such a dream of mine to join you for an episode and talk.

1:08:39And I was nervous, but I knew it'd just be like two girls chatting. So. Oh, this was so easy. Like it always is. This is just a normal FaceTime between you and I. So I appreciate you so much for taking the time to come and jump on. And Sophie is so appreciative of it too. She will be back, you guys, next week for our regularly scheduled programming. But other than that, you know where to find us at Snarkbait Pod. I'm at Kristina Wall underscore underscore. Sophie's at Soph underscore Ross. Live show is x1entertainment.com slash snarkbait. Patreon.com slash snarkbait pod. All the links, all the things are in our show notes.

1:09:11And we will see you tomorrow on Patreon for a bonus episode, another juicy guest. or otherwise for another long form content on Thursday. Thank you guys so much. Talk to you later. Bye.

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