Dark Energy Tuesday (Hannah Berner, Skims, Alix Earle v. Alex Cooper, Scheana Shay, And Just Like That)

23:13Girls, Sip Margs. Alex Earl gets invited to a lot of carpeted events and premieres and maybe Cooper does too, but doesn't go. But I don't think so. I think it's pure jealousy that tore that apart in greed.

23:25Sophie Ross:Yeah. And I mean, I think that like, it's not out of the realm of possibility to just assume that Alex Cooper, like you said, felt threatened and was like, I can't, I can't have another woman that I'm threatened of competing with me under my network. And I mean, like we saw it before with Sophia Franklin. I think, you know, it's kind of a pattern that she has. So I don't know. I would love for Alex Earl to eventually do a tell-all and hopefully she does. I know people were like, please go on Sophia with an F, which - That would be so funny. Incredible. It would be like, who can top this? Yeah, seriously.

24:06Sophie Ross:okay the next thing I want to talk about is did you see that okay so skims Kim Kardashian's brand came out with this like jaw shaping cloth it's like jaw shapewear for your jaw yeah what the actual fuck and I think immediately the internet was kind of like up in arms yeah because they've been called I think it was what's her name Jamila Jamil who called them foot and I don't agree with a lot of the shit she says but she called the Kardashians foot soldiers for the patriarchy which I has always stuck in my brain it's like the fact that they they prey on women's insecurities making up new insecurities for women to have in order to make money off of them like I oh my god And even I feel like I'm sort of like immune to that shit at this point.

25:00Sophie Ross:Even I was like, wait, do I like need to do something about my my double my jaw not being shaped of being, you know, sculpted enough? Like, do I need to do something about that? It's like they literally prey on women's insecurities. It's so fucking sick. They need women to hate themselves in order to make money. Collagen infused cloth. They said it's infused with collagen. Like, what does that mean? That's not a thing. collagen is not going to enter via your pores you can take collagen supplements it is not going to oh my god it is so collagen infused cloth is not a thing god it just pisses me off like how did that get made yeah it's understand and i'm pulling up i'm pulling up my phone because i follow a dermatologist on instagram and she posted she's she posted about this whole this whole thing and And she wrote, Skims just launched face shapewear, collagen-infused wrap that claims to sculpt your jaw.

25:58Here are my thoughts as a 30-year board-certified dermatologist. So she's saying that it can temporarily reduce puffiness by compressing the skin, but it's not going to lift, tighten, or reshape your face in any lasting way. And it won't meaningfully boost collagen. The shapewear is infused with collagen, but collagen on the skin can't rebuild collagen in the skin.

26:22Sophie Ross:Yeah. So the molecules are too large to penetrate the skin, which is why they must be injected to have full, meaningful, lasting effect. Or like you said, consuming collagen, like putting it in your smoothie or putting it in a drink. It doesn't hit the same. She said compression can also irritate the skin barrier if it's used too often, especially on delicate facial skin. There's no evidence that this helps with aging, firmness, or long-lasting skin health. I don't need to read the rest, but it also just looks like pantyhose strapped to your face and lifting it up. Like, that's what it looks like to me.

26:56It looks like anyone could make this. They could just, like, cut some holes.

27:00Sophie Ross:Oh, get some bandage cloth at CVS. That's what it looks like. It also apparently is, like, what women wear or men wear after facelifts. Yes. But they also will wear just, like, a wraparound bandage. It's not necessarily something that is face fitting. It's just a literal bandage that you wrap multiple times around your face and you pin it so it stays. Crazy. It's not even a cloth. Crazy. Did you also see that Skin, which is Kim Kardashian skincare brand, SKKN, shut down in June? I didn't see that. No. How crazy. Okay. I thought they were just like rebranding. No, they're like done. KKW Beauty was like, we're going to rebrand it.

27:47Sophie Ross:Then they never came back. Skin shut down in June. No one cared. No one like noticed. I saw it the other day somehow. I forgot where I saw it. I was going to say, how did you find out? Just like the other day. I think someone posted about it. I don't know. But how crazy is that? That no one fucking noticed that like a whole other Kardashian brand is like Dunzo. There's also a lot to be said about the disappearing Kardashian brands like Like for Kylie Swim. Please talk about this. Kylie Swim is like kind of my Roman empire. So we definitely will do like a Patreon episode in the future on the disappearing Kardashian brands because I'm fascinated by them.

28:26Sophie Ross:And also the disappearing Kardashian animals. Don't get me started. It's so upsetting. It's so upsetting. Where did Kylie's 800 dogs go? Where did Kendall's Great Dane go? Remember the Great Dane that would poop all over Chris's house? Didn't we talk about this the other day? And don't say it's a Doberman. She still has the Doberman. It was a different dog. It was a Great Dane, not a Doberman. And this Great Dane would poop all over Chris's house back when she lived in the black and white tile house. And Chris would have to pick up the poop because Kendall didn't want to take care of this dog.

28:59Sophie Ross:And now no one knows what happened to the dog. What happened to it? Or even like Chloe's gray cat that she would always post about. I feel like Chloe still has the cat. But I also unfollowed Chloe. So like I could be totally wrong with that accusation. But with all the other dogs or like Kim's dog, Sushi. Do you remember that? Like the big fluffy Pomeranian. Does she still have Sushi? I don't know. What about the cat that Kanye got her? The Persian looking cat? I remember and I don't know. I want to say that something, one of the pets Kanye got her passed away like pretty soon after. I wonder if it was that cat.

29:40Sophie Ross:it might have been okay in which case i feel sad for for terrible terrible that was not years ago it's not the animals that sadly pass away it's the ones that literally disappear yeah it's i mean i remember they were courtney would post it because i think courtney and kin got like dogs dogs yeah they were like pomeranians yeah and i think they were siblings so like uh north and penelope then like had this other special bond with their dogs. And now we've never seen, we haven't seen the dogs in years. And like, remember Kylie would always have like, why do I know this? Like Norman, I think. Oh, her little mini greyhounds or whippets, which I always have that if I didn't have a poodle, if I didn't have a poodle, I would have a whippet.

30:24Sophie Ross:I love the little skinny. They're so skinny and they have like, you put sweaters on them, like chunky sweaters in the winter. And I think they're so cute with their little, their little stick legs. They're so cute. Oh my But yeah, she apparently I read somewhere. You guys, this is this is such an episode of me being like, I read somewhere. Trust me, bro. I can't remember where I read it. But like I read on the Internet somewhere that Kylie has like a separate house for her dogs and she has like people take care of. No, she has like four, at least four mini greyhounds. I think she has more. And I feel like probably because I think I think one had puppies.

31:00Sophie Ross:Didn't she have dachshunds, too, at one point? Maybe. Maybe I just know that she had the mini greyhounds. I don't know about the dachshunds, but like, I believe it. And they very well could like Kim's dog sushi. They very well could still like Chloe's cat. I want to say, I feel like I've seen the cat somewhat recently. They very well could still have them and not be posting them. Yeah. But like Kylie has not posted her mini greyhounds in a really, really, really long time. It's concerning. I just wanted to update like people are invested. People were invested in her dogs. Norman Bambi like yes where are they like we're we're gonna we need to know are they okay it's like deeply disturbing forget about the brands this is the real like this is the real this is the real scandal but also Kylie Swim yeah but also like animal what's that place what is it like not the SPCA, but like.

31:54ASPCA? No, that like.

31:55Sophie Ross:In the arms of an angel. I'm going to cry. Also, but Kylie Baby. Like what happened to Kylie? I love how I keep circling back to the brands. I'm like, what happened to Kylie Baby? And Kylie. Wait, didn't she have like. Kylie Skin. Kylie Skin. Where are they? What happened to them? Anyway, you guys. Also, just so you guys know, I just thought of this that I feel like you guys would enjoy. Jordan, our producer, was in the city a couple weeks ago. So we got margaritas and then went back to my apartment and breaking HR violations all over the place. But I'm telling the story. My cousin, my like male cousin who's married, was staying over because he was in town for work.

32:47Sophie Ross:So he was staying in our second bedroom. and Jordan was staying. So it was like the four, it was me, Henry, my cousin, Nathan, shout out Nathan and Jordan. And we were like, Jordan, just stay over. Like you and Nathan can just like sleep together. Nathan's married. Nathan's married. And I was there with my boyfriend. And Jordan has a boyfriend. And also Nathan's wife is a baby snark. So hi, Krista. Remember she was like, oh, it's okay. She was like, it's fine. Yeah, we were based on you. She's like, yeah, she could sleep with him in the bed. It's totally fine. She's like, I don't care. Anyway, you guys, that was a random aside, but funny story.

33:26Sophie Ross:And I met Baxter IRL. Yeah. And Jordan says that Baxter lives up to the hype. You guys, he was so precious. He is just such a lovey. Like he's just one of those dogs that wants to be snuggled, wants to be held. He's kind of like, just like a rag doll. Like he, he just like wants to be held and just like, Oh my God, he's such a little angel. He was so cute. and he had chicken at dinner. Sophie didn't order food for herself. She ordered food for Baxter and then he immediately had diarrhea. Trust me, you guys. Like I do this. I get chicken completely unseasoned, no salt, no pepper. I, you know, make sure there's nothing on it, but it might've been like maybe the oil.

34:06Sophie Ross:They, boy, I have no idea how they prepared it. He had diarrhea instantly. Anyway, back to our conversation, our DT. Let's talk about Sheena Shea. making the New York Times bestseller list. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations to Sheena Shea, Shishu. So very happy for you. There is a caveat though that she made the bestseller list with a dagger, the dagger of death, which means that there were copies bought in bulk. And did you notice her screenshot did not include the dagger? She put like a heart emoji on top of the dagger. I literally was like, why is there a yellow apple heart emoji on the New York Times bestseller list?

34:55And now it makes sense. I actually was covering up the dagger. It's like, they're not going to post an emoji with someone's name. That just doesn't happen.

35:04Sophie Ross:I literally thought the emoji was something that they typed in next to Sheena's name. Same. I thought that at first. And then I was like, something's off. Like, they're not just gonna put an emoji when like no one else has like why is she at a heart when no one else gets nothing and now I think it's because she was covering up the dagger that either was like next to her name or next to the book title so that's so much more embarrassing I'm sorry like you're calling attention to it that way I know it's so fun it's so it's so Sheena in her defense though. I've seen discourse about how this happened.

35:41Sophie Ross:Like you buy books in bulk when you do like book signings or go on a book tour. Right. So like it might be unavoidable if it's like a Bravo Liberty, like Sheena writing a book and going on, like promoting the book by doing book signings, I guess. I don't know. I don't know how this stuff works, but a lot of anything works clearly. Yeah. And I feel like that's the thing. It's like, well, if that's so common that I feel like they would all have daggers because like don't like most authors do like book signings and like promote their book somewhere yeah a lot do it's not just bravo liberties like saucy's saucy's book also had the dagger yeah i mean literally normal everyday authors do book signings and bestseller authors that you see like and you don't you don't see a dagger there so it's definitely a little suspicious and not great oh shishu but good for her good for her she wrote She got a book on the bestseller list, whether she bulk-buied or not.

36:39Sophie Ross:Yeah, I mean, she gets to call herself a New York Times bestseller. You guys know I've been all about transforming my space in 2026. So far, that's included house renovations, hiring a home organizer, etc., etc. Now I'm on to tackling my closet, because a huge part of having a calming, zen space is letting go of all the stuff I haven't worn in years. That's why I'm so excited this episode is sponsored by Vinted. Vinted is a secondhand marketplace app that makes it so easy to sell the pieces you're no longer wearing so you can make space for stuff that you actually will. Whether it's a workblazer you've worn to one meeting or a pair of boots you've never fully broken in, get rid of them and get paid for them.

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39:11Sophie Ross:I also am staying firm in the fact that I do not want her on the valley. as much as I have enjoyed this whole press tour about Brock cheating on her and all of the details and all of the tea and the Rubik's cubes and all of that. I, I don't want Sheena on the Valley. So like, there's no part of it. It's not needed. Like we have enough, we have enough characters on the Valley. It is not necessary. I think that like, you know, it was obviously when the Valley was announced, Jax and Kristen were kind of the ones that we recognized because they were the ones from Vanderpump Rules, obviously. But now we're familiar with the rest of the cast.

39:55Sophie Ross:There are enough people that we feel excited to watch that we just don't, we don't need, you know, we certainly don't need Lala. I feel like Lala, everyone is kind of united and not wanting Lala. There are some people I think that would like to see the Sheena and Brock scandal unfold on the Valley. And it's like Sheena, Sheena had her chance on Vanderpump rules. She even admits it that like she was hiding that during the 11th season of Vanderpump. She had her chance. Sorry. Now it's like, I don't really care anymore. I don't. Now I know all the details. I don't care. Do you think that when season 11 of Vanderpump was filming that she like either brought it, like mentioned something to the producers and the producers were like, well, maybe we just focus on like the Ariana redemption arc and like the fallout of Scandaval or like she literally kept her mouth shut.

40:48Sophie Ross:Not according to her book. She she says apparently that she didn't want to take the spotlight away from Scandaval, which interesting. Yeah, right. She didn't make she made so much of it about herself. She was like, I'm David. What about me? I'm devastated. It's like, okay. It's like, at least make your lie believable, Sheena. You not wanting to take the spotlight? Please. It was more so, I think, that she didn't want to give viewers another reason to hate Brock because viewers did not like Brock and she wants her life to look a certain way to the viewers. And yeah, that is my theory at least. I guess she also says that she was going to hold out until season 12 to finally talk about it on Vanderpump And obviously that season 12 never happened.

41:41Sophie Ross:I mean, it's going to happen with a new cast, but yeah, she never got the chance to on Vanderpump. And obviously it goes without saying that she wants to be on the Valley now to tell the story, also be back on TV, whatever it is. And I am just not interested. And I've always been a Sheena defender. I've long been a Sheena defender and I've always enjoyed watching Sheena. I think she's reality TV gold. She's good as gold. I just, I don't see a fit for her on the Valley. I think the cast is good as is. And every time she has been on the Valley this season saying three words here and there, standing next to someone who's in a fight so she can be on camera, I cringe.

42:17Sophie Ross:She's a background actor. Like she's an extra. But going back to what you were saying, like I'm kind of surprised she didn't say to Ariana, like I've been through this. Like I know what you're going through. Like this happened to me like X amount of years ago and like this is how I coped with it. Or like you're not alone, just in that kind of sense, bringing it up. not even she didn't have to make it about her. She could have just been like, I've experienced this before and like it fucking sucks. But like, this is how you're going to get through it. Just kind of showing that she was there for her because Ariana clearly felt like she wasn't.

42:50Sophie Ross:Yeah, you would think that would have been a smart move for Sheena, but she's not capable of making smart moves ever on television or in life. Speaking of television, do you watch in just like that. Of course. It is literally the definition of trigger warning Ryan Bailey. So bad. It's good. Like it is so bad and I need it every single week. I can't live without it. I haven't caught. I didn't watch this week's episode yet, but spoiler alert. I think you talked about this last week, like good riddance. We've we're done with Aiden. It was so cringe, so dragged out. I'm sorry. I didn't really care about his kids.

43:31I didn't care about the family. That was stupid. That whole story. Oh, you didn't care about Wyatt? I didn't. I was like, let him go. I was like, let him go on his fucking wilderness camp outing. I could have cared less. It was a waste of time, a waste of story.

43:48Sophie Ross:It was. And I was so team Aiden over Big during the original run of Sex and the City because Aiden was Aiden is the safe choice. Yes. Big was the emotionally aloof one. Aiden was the Jeremiah and big was the Conrad for all the summer. I turned pretty fans out there, but I always thought she made a mistake letting Aiden go. Yeah. Now I'm like, no, you made the right decision. You knew better than me because Aiden never. And I see now Aiden never accepted her for who she was. he always tried to change her. And yeah, good fucking riddance to Aiden. So basically, they announced officially that season three is the final season.

44:32Sophie Ross:And they said in their statement, you know, we didn't want everything to feel so final. So we didn't announce it sooner. Apparently, they got canceled. And this happened, this announcement, when other shows got renewed. and just like that clearly found out they were not getting renewed. They were getting canceled. So now it's the last season, apparently, which actually surprises me because it is bad. It's a bad show. It's not well-written. It feels so, the tone is so different from the original Sex and the City. The characters are so different. They don't do things that the characters in Sex and the City would have done.

45:08Sophie Ross:They act so different. It's crazy. But I feel like the viewership, the numbers were there. If I had to guess, Like people still hate watch it. So many. I feel like a lot of podcasts I was listening to were still hate watching it. And we're like, it's so bad, but I can't get enough. I feel like Charlotte was still kind of Charlotte, just like a little bit more. I almost think it was actually like Kristen Davis hindering Charlotte. Like I feel like Kristen Davis forgot how to act. Yeah. Kristen Davis definitely forgot how to act, unfortunately. But I also feel like Charlotte, like what happened to I'm worth a million, Charlotte?

45:44Sophie Ross:Like now she's just like ditzy and goofy and like she's just so ditzy now in a way that I feel like she wasn't before. And also what is the storyline with LTW and Seema? Like we didn't need them. It could have been totally fine with just like the three women. We didn't need these side characters and their storylines that get woven in for five minutes of an entire episode. That's another thing that's just like didn't need a waste of time. It could have been put into like other aspects of the plot or like building up the original character. Yeah. And that's exactly why I feel like the show got canceled.

46:26Sophie Ross:Because what was LTW's like storyline this season if it wasn't going to pivot into something else next season? She had a hot editor. She had a hot editor that she had a crush on. She was making this documentary. Okay. Like what? where it hasn't gone anywhere this season. So it was clearly teeing up something for next season. I don't know. Who knows you guys? I'm sad about it personally. Like I'm sad, even though it is a fucking bad show. It's terrible. It's the worst show I've ever seen, but I've never loved anything more. Because it's so nostalgic. And it's giving us that old, it's not the vintage sex in the city that like we all know.

47:09It's nostalgia. It is. It's like it's nostalgia. It's like Carrie Bradshaw.

47:14Sophie Ross:Because I knew you, I have been changed for good. You're going to get bullied so much for singing on this. I know. Guys, I'm so sorry. Sometimes it's just necessary. It just happened. It's just it just happens. And I can't control it. It just comes out of me like I can't control it. So yeah. Sorry. Before we jump to the next topic I think I did see like part of the statement that they gave out about ending was they did it on apparently they knew they said they knew it was going to end and they made these last two episodes they they ordered two more episodes of the season so it ended with like a two-part finale thing and then the second thing is did you see that Kim Cattrall posted something like yeah after the news came out and it was something like what a week it's been yeah it was like a sunset Yeah.

48:08Sophie Ross:So dramatic. Oh, my God. It's so funny. I've seen so many like jokes on Twitter about how like it should it should end with Samantha coming back and like just shooting everyone, like killing everyone. I would love it. Like Samantha came back and then they did a whole thing for Samantha. Wait, someone someone on Twitter was like, it should end with that one lady's dad dying for a third time. because remember there's been so much criticism about ldw's dad he died already twice he died twice the writers forgot they already killed him that's bad how do you forget that how do you forget that because these writers are not good i'm sorry they're not they're not but the thing is i'm pretty sure it's like the same writer from the original series like this isn't anyone new It wasn't even the first series.

48:58Michael Patrick King, I think that's what it was.

49:00Sophie Ross:I couldn't be mistaken, but I thought it was a new writer's room. I could be mistaken. Also, I know that Eliza Zeritsky and another woman, they were the original writers of Sex and the City. And they did a couple episodes in the later part of the season. And it's probably the episodes that have been good, which are the last. Yeah. The last two weeks ago. Yeah. The last few have been okay. Yeah. So it looks like there are Michael Patrick King is a creator and executive producer. So it says he directed, wrote and executive produced the original series. Yeah. 93 episodes. But it sounds like there are just a lot of new.

49:44Sophie Ross:I'm sure writers involved, obviously, which makes sense. It's just, um, Patricia field, who is the original costume designer for the show who is responsible for Carrie Bradshaw's iconic outfits did not come back for, and just like that and the outfits I feel like were not great for the first two seasons. They have been so good this season. They pulled out a lot from the archive, which is just like so great to see because the, the wardrobe, even though some of it's like, what are you wearing? The rest iconic. Yes, Yes, exactly. Like I'm in the middle of the most recent episode and the outfits that Carrie has worn on the most recent episode have just been flawless.

50:24Sophie Ross:And that was not the case for the first two seasons. It just didn't feel, it didn't feel like Carrie. I know. They were still trying to like figure her out. Which is like, you shouldn't have to do that. You should just pick right back up. Yeah. And also they wasted so much fucking time on Aiden. Again. Wasted so much time because now it's like, I want to watch Carrie be single again. And now she is the hot writer, whatever his name is. And I want to see how that unfolds. There's like so much now that I want to see unfold and we're not going to get to. It's a shame. We all complained too much and didn't realize how good we had it.

51:00Moral of the story. I read somewhere in like the beginning of the season when the episodes were coming out and everyone was like, what is this? Someone I read somewhere was like, bring back Che. Like, I never thought I would say this, but like, I miss Che.

51:12Sophie Ross:Honestly, like I miss how much we all made fun of Che. Like Che was so, Che was like the worst. An easy target. But like, again, a great hate watch. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook.

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53:19Sophie Ross:okay so last thing before we jump into light energy objects and dark energy objects of the week. Ghislaine Maxwell is now at the same prison as Jen Shaw and Elizabeth Holmes, apparently. Yeah, this shook me. It was like on the news, they were like, Ghislaine Maxwell has been transferred to a prison in Texas with a couple of well-known other prisoners and like up popped Elizabeth Holmes on one split side of the screen and up popped Jen Shaw from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City on the other half of the screen. And it's just like, I remember when Elizabeth Holmes got to that prison with Jen Shaw, everyone was like, oh my God, are they going to be friends?

53:57Are they going to be like the new girl group of the prison? Like whatever it may be. And they, then like all these photos came out of them working out together and like going on walks in the prison yard. And that was insane. That was like the craziest to me. I was like, what the actual fuck? Like these two women from two completely different worlds. Both infamous in their own ways. Yes. And now you have like Ghislaine Maxwell. Like this is like the trifecta of infamous bad women. Horrible human beings. Horrible human, dark, dark human beings. Definition of dark energy. Ghislaine Maxwell like upped the darkness of Ghislaine.

54:39Oh, yes.

54:40Sophie Ross:Like to another, like it's not really fun anymore with Ghislaine Maxwell. Now it's just like, no, this is too much. Yeah. And I saw a meme. It was either on like Twitter or Reddit. It was like Jen Shaw is making sure that Ghislaine Maxwell like cannot take over like what she has put in place in prison. Like she's going to make sure that Ghislaine like will not head the workout group or like will not, you know, be a part of the clique that she's in. Like just all this ridiculous stuff. But it's insane that she even got transferred to a lower security prison to begin with. Oh my God. She needs to be in fucking like solitary confinement.

55:19Sophie Ross:Like put her away with like the worst of them, honestly. Like you don't get to be at the fun prison, Ghislaine. She doesn't deserve to be with Elizabeth Holmes and Jen Shaw. No, not. Oh my God. But I do kind of need Andy in a camera. Kind of. I just, part of me is morbidly curious, like what kind of interactions they're going to have. Part of me is like, fuck all three of them. I think that like what gets lost in the conversation, We all know that Ghislaine Maxwell hurt a lot of people. Yeah. That goes without saying. I think it sometimes gets lost that Jen Shaw and Elizabeth Holmes also hurt a lot of people.

55:53Sophie Ross:A lot of vulnerable people. In Elizabeth Holmes's case, sick people. In Jen Shaw's case, elderly people. In Ghislaine's case, children. They are the scum of the earth. I think it's actually crazy that Jen Shaw is going to be released. Now it's like next year she's going to be out. they keep adjusting her release timeline. Yeah. Making it earlier and earlier. And it's like, why do you have an overflow issue? Like, why, how are you letting this person out when she hurt so many vulnerable, defenseless elderly people? I mean, it's just sick. It's sick. Yeah. Oh my God. It like pisses me off. And also like when, when that, when her sentence or anyone's sentence gets shortened because of quote unquote good behavior.

56:43Sophie Ross:What is good behavior in prison? Like, is it you saying please and thank you? Yeah, I've always been curious about that. What constitutes good behavior? Let us know, you guys. Well, the only thing I can think of is like the Menendez brothers, it having good behavior and like their good behavior was they were, I think, going to therapy. They were helping like other prisoners better themselves from like what they had learned in prison or they were being teachers, whatever that is. I'm still like, why is just being nice grant you potential freedom? Yeah. I don't understand. They know what they're doing.

57:20They know how to put on good behavior to get what they want. They know how to manipulate the system. So of course they're going to be on their best behavior. Yeah. That's how they got away with

57:29Sophie Ross:their shit in the first place. I will say though, free the Menendez brothers. Free them. Otherwise, though, for those aforementioned three women. Keep them. Keep them in there. Throw away the lock and key. Yeah. Send it back in the mail. For real. Okay. Anyway, let's jump into our light energy objects of the week, dark energy objects of the week. What do you want to do first, Jordan? Let's do dark energy first. So I think that the biggest barometer of like whether or not someone is a good person is if they are nice to waiters. People that are mean to waiters are the darkest energy. And I think that that was something that I had to adjust to when I moved from the Midwest to the East Coast.

58:16Sophie Ross:And I'm not saying that all Midwestern people are angels. You're no angel either, sweetheart. That's not that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I think Midwesterners have, in general, better manners. like the people that get their sentences reduced in prison. Know how to say please and thank you. Just have better manners. East coasters are a little more brash. Yeah. I definitely - Or around the edges. Yeah. I had to get used to being around people that didn't know how to say please and thank you to waiters. I have had friends that I've literally had to teach, which is kind of embarrassing.

58:49Sophie Ross:It's not good, but like, I feel like it is such a barometer. I think that some people maybe just never learned. It's not a good excuse, but people that are downright mean to waiters. It is just so, and, and I think elderly, some of our grandparents, I will excuse them. It's not something I enjoy, but I, I give an excuse to, you know, my grandparents are elderly people going out to dinner because they're just a little crabbier, you know, as they get into old age, you know, they have very, very, very stringent order adjustments that they need. It's just, I'll give them a pass. But if you are not over the age of 75, I'll say 75 is my cutoff.

59:33Sophie Ross:You have no excuse. It's just so cringe. But even when someone doesn't say thank you, and I actually always try to clock it on reality shows too. When I see reality, when they're filming reality stars or whether it's like Housewives or Vanderpump or the valley and they're filming all of them at the restaurant. Like I clock that if they don't say please or thank you or whatever it may be, because I just think it's such a tell of the kind of person that you are. Like if you can't say that to just someone that is doing something for you, like, how are you going to treat your, like, how am I supposed to expect you to treat your significant other the right way?

1:00:16Or like that, that was like one of the big things I would look out for when I was dating was like, how are these men doing on dates where like they're saying, are they not saying please or thank you? Are they not making direct eye contact with the waiter? Like that also, when you don't look directly at someone, I'm like, oh, so you think you're better than them? Like they're just here to serve you. Like not only are you not saying please and thank you, but you can't even look them in the eye. That really.

1:00:44Sophie Ross:It's bad. Yeah. I completely agree that that is a great, if you are a single baby snark, next time you go on a date, like that is something to definitely pay attention to. Because again, like we said, I feel like it's a barometer of whether or not you're a good person. Yeah. It's not that hard. It's really not to say please or thank you or to look at someone. Yeah. And if it is, you have a problem. Yeah. What is your dark energy object of the week? Mine was I had to make dinner for myself earlier this week. So Eli makes dinner most nights. Eli is Jordan's boyfriend. Yes. And I'm very, very grateful and very thankful.

1:01:22So I was making my own dinner the other night, did some Bazy made pasta. I could not get the top of the pasta sauce. It was like an unopened jar of pasta sauce. Couldn't open it. Ran it under the hot water. Wouldn't budge. Tried to use like a towel and tapping it on the counter. Wouldn't budge. Finally, I was like on the phone with a friend and she was like, take a knife, like a sharp knife and just like whack it, whack the lid with the knife and like circle it around the jar and it will open. Wow. And that worked? I did it. I made a dent in the pasta jar top and it worked. It popped right off.

1:02:04But I was like, the one time you need a man, he's not here and couldn't open jar. It was honestly so embarrassing. Also, I was like, am I weak? Am I just not strong that I can't open this jar? It was just a full on embarrassing moment of not being able to do something for myself. No, I've been there.

1:02:25Sophie Ross:I've been there. And also like, it's not sometimes it's not even opening like a new can of something. The way that Henry will close something so tightly as if it needs to be vacuum sealed, as if we are going to outer space. Like why, why does it have to be closed this tightly? Like for instance, our peanut butter jar, we get like this, it comes in a glass jar. It's not, yeah, this is what that sauce was. It was in a glass jar. Yeah, a glass jar. And I'm like, I was not opening it for the first time. It was peanut butter that we had already opened, but he closed it so fucking tight. Like why? Why?

1:03:05Sophie Ross:Is it necessary? Same with my water. Like, God bless him. He is the type of husband that fills up my water bottle every night before bed. I shouldn't be complaining because I love it. It's my favorite thing he does. But then he'll close it so tight that, like, the next day when I'm trying to, like, refill it, I, like, cannot open my water bottle. No, you need, like, those, like, I need a grip thing. I need to order, like, a grippy thing on Amazon because hot water and banging. It's also because it was glass. I was like, I'm going to break it, and then I'm going to cut myself. And then there's going to be glass everywhere, and the dogs are going to step on it.

1:03:36Sophie Ross:Yeah. Also, have you ever tried to open a Talenti ice cream? Impossible. Impossible. And I'm like, I'm going to throw my shoulder out. I'm going to dislocate. Yeah. I won't buy it for that very reason. I'm like, I can't, I can't open this. Like there are not many things I can't do, but like, that's one of them. And it's like, you can put that under hot water. You're going to melt the ice cream. You're going to melt the ice cream. It's just ridiculous. But they actually do have like tools you can order where that like helps you open a can. That's just a money grab for them. Like you're going to, well, clearly we need them.

1:04:12Like clearly that's like not a bad invention.

1:04:15Sophie Ross:If, if we can't, if we can't open cans. And also like, I think accessibility wise, there are some people that probably need it. Accessibility wise, but like, yeah, some of these fricking jar manufacturers need to relax. Talenti manufacturers, you guys need to chill with that. Yeah. And if you're not going to, if you're going to make it where you can't open it, at least just like give a freebie of, of something to help you open it because yeah. Or at least like they want with the issue. Yeah. Like you should have some sort of instructions. Yeah. Like what's, what's the hack here? Like how do I actually like, come on.

1:04:53Sophie Ross:Okay. Let's move on to light energy objects of the week. First of all, shout out to Tubi, which is one of them to be sent. Christie and I marched because they heard our shout out. You have your shoes with you. I have my slides. Actually, I'm wearing them right now. They say to be, this is one of them. And I love it. I am like in my cozy. It's like the cutest snark bait, pink, cozy sweatsuit. And it was like the purpose, perfect thing to change into after my shower after a day at the beach. So like, I'm so cozy right now. I love it. Thank you to be. And I've heard so many people or seen so many DMs from people being like, oh my God, I started watching Tubi because of you and I'm obsessed.

1:05:34Sophie Ross:So like, clearly we are Tubi influencers. We deserve this merch. So thank you Tubi. Speaking also of streaming, I started The Hunting Wives on Netflix. I think I started it Thursday night and I finished it last night, Saturday. We're recording on Sunday, August 3rd right now. It is so good, you guys. It's one of those kind of trashy, stupid summer binges. Like it's not, it's not like prestige television. Like this isn't The Wire. It's not The Sopranos. It is exactly what you need it to be, which is stupid summer fun. And it's very sexy. So do not make the mistake of like turning it on with like your mom or your, God forbid, your dad.

1:06:19Sophie Ross:Just watch it by yourself. Watch it with a spouse, a partner. be careful about who you watch it with because it is extremely sexy but like so good and like so binge worthy good to know I do have it on my list yeah and it's it is Brittany Snow and Malin Ackerman I think Malin Ackerman and she is so Malin Ackerman has been like so hot for so long say Brittany Snow is gorgeous but Malin Ackerman has always played like the bombshell like she never ages. She never ages. Like when she was in Harold and Kumar, which I love Harold and Kumar. Fun fact about me. It's like one of my favorite movies, the original one, like she has just always been so fricking stunning and beautiful.

1:07:02Sophie Ross:She has like a really bad wig in the show, but what's up with that? Yeah. The wig is really bad, but otherwise she is just like stunning. She gets naked a lot, which like, you know, I'm fine with it because she is just so beautiful and perfect, but yeah, a very sexy, fun summer romp, you know? Okay. I'm going to watch it. Okay. Yeah. So I highly recommend that show if you guys need like a fun, sexy little show. Another thing that I really, truly appreciate you guys is the tool on Instagram. Like the fact that Instagram gives us the ability, if you post a slideshow, it's not the easiest thing in the world, but you can rearrange your slideshow.

1:07:42Sophie Ross:I had no idea. And I love it because I am someone who like cares about how my grid looks. I don't have like the most aesthetic grid, but I want it to look good. Like I care about it. Yeah. And there was like one, it was just bothering me. Like it didn't, it didn't look good. It was the first, the cover photo of an album that I recently posted. And what you can do is you click edit. Don't click like delete of like the whole post. Just you can select one photo at a time and press like the trash can button for that photo. And then it sends it to your archive. And then you go to your archive and you could say re repost it or whatever the term is.

1:08:25Sophie Ross:And then it returns to that same album just at the back of the album. So if you want to, So if you want to rearrange an album on Instagram, you have to do it manually that way. So it's not like the easiest thing in the world. It would be so nice if you could just press edit and like move them around. But you have to like delete them and then reinstate them, I guess. And does it say that you that it's like a new post, though? Or it's no like posted. No, it's the third or whatever. Yeah, it's the same post. It's like just the same. But it goes to the back of the album. So then if you want something to, you know, move forward, then you have to just delete other photos and keep deleting until you have the order that you want and then reinstate them or whatever.

1:09:12Sophie Ross:That's not the right word. Can you also like delete a photo and not have it be in like the – because I feel like I've seen people do that when they have a breakup and there's like a significant other in their carousel and then all of a sudden they're gone. And I'm like, wait, I really thought I saw that person. No, you can delete. Yeah, you can delete as many photos as you want from a carousel until you're down to two. Because I've had the same thing where, you know, I have photos with like an ex-boyfriend. And I'm like, well, I like this photo at the front. That's just of me. But I can't delete this last photo because it has, once it's down to two, you can't delete in a carousel.

1:09:52Sophie Ross:So that's just a fun IG hack. but I appreciate Instagram for letting me do that as someone who has like a little bit of, you know, I'm a little crazy about making sure my grid looks okay. You would never guess it from looking at my grid, which doesn't even look good, but like, it's just a me thing, you know? That's okay. We all have our things. We all have our things. Okay. I feel like, do you have any light energy objects? You didn't write them down, but like, do you have any? Um, I, I don't think I do. I'm going to say that my light energy object is doing this with you today. Oh, stop it. That was so sweet.

1:10:26Feels like it's such an honor. I'm always behind the scenes, which I like, like I'm a very behind the scenes kind of person. And so it's just like a different experience being on and being in conversation. But it was so fun. So thank you for having me.

1:10:42Sophie Ross:Of course. I loved it. Welcome to the front of the house. Yeah. Jordan is usually back of house And she is like the backbone of the show. So it was really great to be able to welcome you to DET for the first time. And hopefully not the last time. I hope that it honestly was fun. I get it now. I'm like, bring me the I'm ready for my my close up. Bring me the front of the house now. Oh my God, stop. She's gonna try to take over you guys. I would watch literally never. I've been watching too much hunting wives. I'm like, oh my God, Jordan, you're gonna take me out. Aren't you? Never. I could never.

1:11:19Sophie Ross:I could. No, I couldn't. But we do miss Christy. Yeah. But she will be back, obviously. And yeah, you can follow us on Instagram at snarkbait pod. You can follow me at soap underscore Ross. Christy is at Christy Noel underscore underscore. And thank you to Jordan, our producer. Here she is. Rachel, our social manager. Olivia, our researcher. if you guys feel so inclined, please leave us a five-star rating and review if you liked this episode. Otherwise, yeah, we will see you next time. Again, we do Patreon episodes every Wednesday. What's this Wednesday? This Wednesday is - If you want to plug it.

1:12:01Sophie Ross:We did an episode on the Idaho college murders, and that will be our Patreon episode tomorrow. And then Thursday, we are back with a very highly requested deep dive. The subject is probably the second most requested after Paige Lorenz. So yeah, please stay tuned, I guess. And thank you guys so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Love ya. Bye.