Dark Energy Tuesday (Lee From America, We Wore What, Brittany Cartwright, Nike x Skims, Selena Gomez Wedding)

25:29I just, there has to be some sort of confusion here because why she can afford it. Right. Yeah. And to your point, it's within the realm of possibility that Vivrell did give her a bag at a discounted rate. But I think the thing that's confusing is Vivrell just posting, we love to be your something borrowed. Like the something borrowed obviously is like a pun to her like, you know, nuptials. But also borrowed is the name of the game in their business model. Yeah. So I think that's why people were confused. Like, okay, if Vivrell's going to say, we love being your something borrowed, then to us, that's insinuating that Danielle did not buy the bag.

26:05But to your point, Danielle may not be wrong, but regardless, I think Vavrella is being shady towards Danielle Bernstein. Yeah. And like the something borrowed thing would obviously insinuate that it's completely, completely borrowed. Like it's it's borrowed. It's not hers. But at the same time, it's like, why would Danielle Bernstein? It just doesn't track for me because she can afford it. She unboxed it as if she bought it. Maybe it's like she's at a point where she couldn't afford this specific bag. But there's something about it that is really confusing me. If Vivrell was being, it's actually making me side-eye Vivrell.

26:38I know this is an unpopular opinion. It's making me side-eye Vivrell more than it's making me side-eye Danielle Bernstein. Let Danielle Bernstein, if she wants to like unbox her bridal bag and like pretend she, I don't know. I just don't think it's worth shading her over. I, and I'm not one to defend Danielle Bernstein. I just know she can afford Hermes bags. Yeah. Well, I think that's important context too. For someone who can afford it, she has no reason to lie about this. but Vivrell coming in and writing that comment and going out of their way to write that comment it seems like I don't know maybe there wasn't like a pleasant like business interaction with the two of them and Vivrell wanted to be messy I know it seems like Vivrell is being messy which makes me side eye them and again I don't want to be one that's defending this what at all I just think it's such a bizarre thing it'd be different if it was a small creator with like 5 ,000 followers and no other clear signs of wealth being like guys look what I bought and it's obvious that she can't afford that.

27:34Danielle Bernstein can afford this. It's very strange. I understand the concept of like a rent the runway for bags, for luxury bags. This is essentially what Viverelle is. It's just never like appealed to me. It's like if I'm going to spend, because it's not a super cheap subscription, you have to spend a decent amount of money to be able to rent these bags, rightfully so, because they're very expensive bags. I would rather invest in one that I could actually own. It's expensive. So I just like, I don't really understand. I mean, I understand in the business model, it's not, maybe I'm not the target audience.

28:04I'm like, it just seems like I'd be like throwing away a couple of hundreds of dollars to wear a bag to an event that no one really, no one really cares that I have this bag that much, you know? Right. It's like, it's like with everything, if you buy it and it's for your own, it's an investment, you can pass it down. You could resell it rather than just throwing your money and just getting a bag just for your Instagram. Like I agree. Yeah. It feels like it's for Instagram. Literally a hundred percent is. Yeah. I think that's what these creators probably, I think a lot of creators when they're showing these bags, you think that it's they own all these luxury handbags, when in fact, yeah, probably a Vivrell subscription.

28:37A lot of them. Yeah. And I also understand taking a bag for a test drive being like, do I want to actually buy this bag? Let me test it out. I guess it's I don't know. It's such a weird this comment is so weird. I could see it. That's actually a good use case for you to do Vivrell if you actually want to see do I like using this bag? Does it fit enough of my stuff? Does it have the right compartment? To me, that actually is the use case where it makes sense. But just to post it for your Instagram, you're better investing in that bag and putting it down to generations or your kids or your sister or whatever.

29:06Yeah, exactly. Otherwise, I just feel like it's you're kind of like flushing money down the toilet. But what do I know? I know that other people really enjoy this service. I don't know what to make of this. Like, I keep going back and forth. I'm like, no, I just don't understand why she would lie about buying something that she can afford to buy. I think the context of what you're saying is helpful because I think with that in mind, I think we can all agree and let us know if you disagree that Vivrell was being a little bit shady. Yeah, let us know what you guys make of this, you guys. Because I truly don't know what to make of this.

29:38And we know that Danielle Bernstein is not the most honest person in the entire world. So maybe she is completely bullshitting about having bought this bag. But why? I feel like she could buy it if she wanted to. So I just don't understand. Let us know, you guys. I truly don't know what to make of it. I don't want it to seem like I'm defending Miss What. I'm more so like, why is Vivrell being so messy? I have no idea. Okay, one thing that I want to touch on really quickly. Speaking of fashions, did you see that Kim Kardashian dropped the Nike X Skims collab? I sure did. With this experiential show in Bryant Park in New York City.

30:17And like no one showed up. I didn't realize that no one showed up to the event. I saw the collection, but that's crazy that no one is showing up for this Skims like collab. Because I feel like Skims is historically, they've just done very well with their collaborations or they make us feel like we've done really well. But the fact that no one actually showed up to this event. Yeah. So first of all, the collection looked like a Yeezy ripoff. It was all it was all the skin tight neutrals and the models just standing there like like hands on hips. Yeah, it's just it's not interesting. We've we've seen it before.

30:51So I think that's problem number one. And problem number two is that I feel like Nike is not like the it brand it once was. Completely agree. It was really big in, I think, 2013, 2014. Yeah. 2015. Yeah. But not as much anymore. So the Nike brand is kind of falling off. Not that the Nike brand is ever going to fall off completely. It's a legacy brand. It's one of the most recognizable brands in the entire world, but just not as relevant as it once was. And then the Kardashian brand is also on the downswing. I think there are a lot of factors at play here, but I wonder if this was a wake up call for like the Kardashian dynasty.

31:30It's like you do an IRL pop up in the biggest city. Is New York City the biggest city in the world? I would say it's maybe geographically, I don't know. But when it comes to culture and events and all that, it is like I feel like it's the primary destination more so than L.A., I think. Actually, the biggest city in the world is Tokyo. which actually makes sense. Because when I went to Tokyo, I said, it makes New York City feel tiny. Anyway, one of the biggest cities in the world, the biggest city in the United States, and no one showed up. That has to be kind of like a reality check for the Kardashians.

32:06And also they went on, or Kim went on Jimmy Fallon to promote the collection. Kris and Khloe were backstage. I think we talked about this, how we saw Kris's unfiltered facelift and she looks her age. The pictures that everyone was freaking out about were heavily airbrushed. Sure. She looks her age. Kim was wearing the skin tight dress with the choker. It's boring. Yeah. It's so boring. We've seen it before. She has not evolved her style in 10 years. And this Skims Nike collab is like the perfect example of that. It's like, it's literally a Yeezy ripoff. Nothing about it is interesting. Nothing about her fashion is interesting anymore.

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38:01Just the darkness. It goes beyond just darkness. It's once you start putting the pieces together, you start to realize that there is far more than meets the eye. The people that they are associated with are very dark sided. And everyone is kind of these, there are these key players in Hollywood that are very centric to the Kardashian brand and the people that they choose to spend time with. yeah I think this is just a nugget of like that downfall is just no one showing up to it they're the gangsters of Hollywood and if you want to know what we mean we have an episode dropping Thursday that we'll get into this more I forgot what I was gonna say I had something else that I was gonna say but now I forgot so let's move on okay sure I was going to say that I read not read I listened to it on audiobook because I don't know sometimes with podcasts if there's ads it disrupts my sleep, but I like to listen to something when I go to bed because I feel like I just, yeah, my brain just keeps racing.

38:55But I've been reading her book and it comes with a Spotify premium membership. Wait, who? Did you say Leave From America? Oh, excuse me. Yeah, Leave From America. If you don't like this, I will die. And we covered Leave From America a couple months back on the main feed. But oh my God, it's actually quite a salacious memoir. There's a lot of crazy nuggets of information and I'm still struggling to find out she puts in all these crazy stories of her young adult life her teenage life and you're like holy shit I can't believe that happened to you but she has she struggles to kind of weave it into like what she what it taught her or how it links into her existing life or her desire for fame and social media fame but she gives some crazy stories she talks about how when she was 15 years old she experimented with one of the hottest of skies at her high school he drove a Range Rover he came over to her house he asked her to give him a blowjob and when she was giving him a blowjob her dad walked into the room when it was happening and her dad called Leah slut for doing what she did she felt like she was ashamed to her family she talks about a lot of crazy stuff with her family dynamic and how she was super jealous of her sister and how one time she got into a physical altercation with her family and she called the cops on her own family.

40:11They showed up to her doorstep. She talks about her drug-induced, I don't even want to call it psychosis, but her addiction to Molly and ketamine and cocaine when she was living in New York City, how she would do this all night, every night, five days in a row. And then she swung the entire opposite way in her holistic living in Los Angeles. She's lived so many different lives. And I feel like if you were once a fan of Leave from America, you will find this memoir very salacious. Wow. I might have to give this a listen. Yeah. So like Christy said, it's free on Spotify Premium, the audiobook. I don't understand how that's profitable for these books that drop to just be free with Spotify Premium.

40:50I don't understand how that works, but good for us, I guess. Probably based on like downloads, but it can't be that much, I'd imagine. But in any case, yeah, she has some wild stories. and the way that she was treating her friends when she started getting a little bit of Instagram fame. And you have to remember, she was one of the first Instagram influencers to ever come up on the scene. She was the first to kind of monetize before brand deals even became a thing, before FTC guidelines were even established. So she was the first of her kind to do it. And she kind of walks you through all the things that she was able to get for free, the trips that she took, the dynamics between other influencers when they were all at brand trips together, how she would basically leave her real life friends to the dust because all she cared about was being on Instagram and being online 24-7.

41:32It's fascinating and I'm enjoying it just because it is every story, every chapter gets crazier and crazier. Wow. Does it make you view her in a more positive light? You know what? I think I've heard such horrible things about her personally from friends of mine that used to know her in like the health and wellness space. I think I can't really look past that because she's describing these stories and these interactions she would have with influencers at the time in like 2014, 2015. and just knowing how she was interacting with these people and how mean she was. And like how much of this story is actually not truthful, but like you're clearly telling it from your own lens, which is painting you in a very positive light.

42:10But from what I've heard, an absolute nightmare to work with and be around. So it's hard for me to divorce those two ideas. But her party life in New York City was crazy. Wow. It gave me anxiety even reading about it. I was like, geez, this sounds very toxic. That's crazy. So yeah, you're like, yeah, maybe I view her more positively now, but it's also like, are you even a reliable narrator? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So quick plug for that memoir, if you guys are interested, I think it's a good read. I think that that would be a good Patreon episode for us to kind of recap our thoughts on it. Yeah. Something that I want to talk about is, first of all, Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco got married this past weekend.

42:53and something I love is that Selena posted the first photos literally the night of the wedding. Yeah. No, it was about an hour until I saw those pictures up on Instagram. She was at her reception posting. Yeah. And I honestly was like, like, I'm so tired of the whole like, oh, I have to keep them waiting because everyone is going to be like on the on the edge of their seat waiting for my wedding photos. And Selena was like, no, I'm just going to post them right now. Like, yeah, she looked beautiful as predicted. She looked stunning. I'm so excited to like see more content from it and see, read more details about it.

43:27See what kind of guests were there, what kind of traditions they did, what kind of ceremony. I just, I want all the details. She just looked beautiful in the photo. She looks so happy. She's glowing. Her dress was stunning. Ralph Lauren dress, I think. And her hair was so cute. Like I love the short hair. It was kind of old Hollywood. It was like a retro little bob. Yeah. And yeah, just this gorgeous, gorgeous like halter gown. And the photos were these old timey like film photos. She just looked so stunning. And speaking of influencers or speaking of brides that like to keep their wedding photos under wraps because they think they're so important.

44:05Ella Rose, Ella Lobotomy Goals Rose McFadden. She got married like three weeks ago at this point. She still has not posted her wedding photos and people don't care anymore. I feel like people just don't, like people have moved on. You have like a window, not that there's like a statute of limitations. I've talked about before how I still have a lot of photos that I never posted for my wedding. I'm probably going to post for our anniversary or something. I don't know. I'll post them eventually. But like, she hasn't posted a single photo of her dress and people are like, yeah, we want to see the dress.

44:37Duh, that's the most fun part of looking at wedding photos is like, what did the bride wear? So I wasn't posted. She posted on her Instagram stories this past weekend. She said, thank you guys for all the sweet messages and excitement around our wedding photos. Getting our initial gallery of images back took a little longer for us because we were very adamant on waiting for the film back. That was a huge reason we hired our lovely photo team because they do exceptional work with film. They shot 42 rolls of film over our four days of events, over 1 ,500 shots of film. We finally got to see the first round of about 90 top selects on Wednesday this week and found out some exciting news yesterday from somewhere that loved the imagery as much as us.

45:13We don't know which day we'll share them just yet, but I wanted to share a little update with you guys since I've been so quiet about it. I can't wait to share more. They are so worth the wait. I didn't even know she got married yet. No one cares anymore, Ella. I think she's being like, oh my God, it's going to be in Vogue. Okay, cool. Like Vogue exclusive, sure. But she's like, just so you know, you guys, I know you're all waiting with bated breath. I don't know when I'm going to share them, but just keep waiting. It's so worth it. No one cares. I feel like it would be more impactful if she said nothing and then just dropped it.

45:47Exactly. She's like, guys, I know you're so excited. I've gotten so many messages. But please, please be patient. Like, please. I'm just a human. Please. Please. No photos. But it's almost giving a lot of you been asking like that personified. A lot of you have been asking and waiting on bated breath for my wedding photos. And I assure you, they will come out almost as you expect, but even better. and I'm so excited for you guys to see. They're so worth the wait. I love how she's like, I don't know exactly when I'm going to share them, but they're worth the wait. Okay, then shut up. In six months from now.

46:21Yeah, no one cares anymore. You missed your chance. We've moved on with our lives. Right. We're too busy celebrating Selena Gomez's wedding and we're waiting on bated breath for those photos, to be clear, which came an hour after the ceremony. Exactly. That's why I thought it was such a statement when Selena Gomez just posted them. She was like, yeah, here you go. I know you guys want to see some. Here you go. Yeah. And I kind of like that Selena Gomez did that just because she knows apparently there were helicopters circling Santa Barbara, Montecito, wherever it was being held, the actual reception.

46:51And I like that she kind of took it into her own hands and was like, I'm going to give you guys what I know you're waiting. They really are waiting on bated breath for Selena Gomez's wedding photos. And she was like, there you go. Take them. Exactly. I love it. Speaking of love, I'm so glad you put this on our DET notes. Madeline Klein's love triangle. So So we just had a spotting of her with Zach Bia, I think two weeks ago. And I literally, she's been now reported to be dating Prince Constantine Alexios of Greece and Denmark. And I just saw a picture before we started recording. I follow like a Madeline Klein updates because.

47:26Of course you do. That's Christy's Roman Empire. Yes. Madeline Klein. And there's a picture of her kissing Prince Constantine Alexios on the lips. Yeah, they definitely. Yeah, there was one photo of them in the East Village. at a bar. I can't remember the name of the bar, but they were just out in New York City kissing, I guess. But yeah, like Christy said, recently she was spotted with Zach Bia, her longtime on-off boyfriend, who we, I wrote up a little deep dive on him if you're curious about him on our Patreon just recently. I feel like, great, leave Zach Bia behind because what does he even bring to the table?

48:02I'm sorry. Yeah, Madeline Klein's dating history is so interesting because she dated chase stokes who we know is an op of snark podcast he just got bro he he and kelsey ballerina broke up i did see some rumblings i was trying to find it for sophie when we were texting the other day i couldn't find it but i saw a whisper that maybe madeline and chase were getting kind of close when they were filming the last season of outer banks perhaps did that contribute to the breakup of him and kelsey no way i have no idea this is correct this was like a dumas blind item but then madeline was spotted with Zach Bia, like we just said, and now with Prince Constantine.

48:37But she was also with Pete Davidson for a long period of time, though that was a pretty hush-hush relationship. She just has like a crazy kind of Rolodex of men. But I love this for her that she's dating a literal prince. But do you know who else Prince Constantine dated? Oh, Brooke Snader. Yeah. What's that about? What is a Brooke Snader? Question mark. Question mark. No, I don't understand. Like when I was trying to Google him, like who is this guy? How old is he? What's his dealio? and then I saw he went to a really big wedding with Brooke Snader. And I'm blanking on what the wedding was, but they were publicly together.

49:08I think it may have been Olivia Colpo and Christian McCaffrey. I think you're right. I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. The kind of information that is stored in here. No, thank you for recalling that. That's so random because I feel like, again, we just found out about Brooke Snader or we're supposed to know about Brooke Snader. And all of a sudden I find out that she's now dating Madeline Klein. She did date Madeline Klein's new potential boyfriend. And you know how we did that triangle of all the hot Hollywood stars, Starletts, add Madeline and Brooke Snader to this list, as well as Prince Constantine.

49:38Yeah. I also just think it's so interesting that Madeline Klein is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. Stunning. And besides this prince, her dating history is all how, what's the nice way to say this? Aesthetically challenged looking men. I do not disagree. If you had to choose, if we take Constantine out of the mix, Pete Davidson, Chase Stokes, Zach Bia. Fuck, marry, kill. Ooh, kill Chase Stokes. Same. That's horror between Pete Davidson and Zach. F Zach Bia, I think. Marry Pete Davidson. Because at least he's kind of funny. And you know what else is rumored about him, obviously.

50:27Yeah. What would your answer be? Definitely kill Chase Stokes, obviously. Yeah. Oh, God, that's hard because Pete Davidson is so funny. Like, I mean, it would be like a funny time, but I feel like because he struggles mentally and like I also can struggle mentally, maybe that would be too hard if we were in a marriage. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. That's a good point. So maybe marry Zach Bia, but like his whole way of the way he earns money is very big question mark there. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. Oh, that's such a tough one. Let us know in the comments, guys, on our Instagram at StarkBatePod or on the Spotify comments.

51:04Fuck, marry, kill. Chase Stokes, Zach Bia, and Pete Davidson. Let us know, you guys. I'm just a little lost. I don't know. Sophie's Choice. Sophie's Choice. Sophie's Choice. What do you want to talk about next? Should we move on to our dark energy objects of the week? Oh, please. What is yours? Hey, it's Christy from Lululemon. I'm in the office with what's new, and the Breezley Collection has definitely caught my eye. If you're like me and want to add some lighter, airy pieces to your wardrobe, this is a great place to start. There's a Breezley tank, shorts, and pants, all in our Swift fabric, which is super lightweight and stretchy.

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53:23And I did not put the photo on our notes because I was on my phone. So I couldn't figure out how to do it. Actually, did you see Lisa Barlow's confessional makeup? No, but as you're talking, let me look it up. Please look it up. Someone did Lisa Barlow dirty. Lisa Barlow, I think, always looks good. She always, she's very stylish. I think she's very beautiful. She's just, she's everything you want in a housewife also in terms of personality, campiness. Sure. She's, she's great. Something unraveled with her this past episode. Her eyelash is falling off her face. She looks like she has a black eye.

54:02One eye has way more makeup on it. And again, the eyelash is falling off. It looks so bad. Yeah, it looks terrible. If you guys are on YouTube, youtube.com slash at snarkfadepod. I'm just posting it on my phone, but yeah. It looks so bad. Also, we'll be posting it, obviously. I think I already posted on this at SnarkbeatPod Instagram, but I will post it again on our feed in case you missed it. So something went on with her makeup artist. Also, she completely just unraveled, like I said this past episode, Bronwyn, who is our now second year newbie in her sophomore season, completely dismantled her.

54:40Like completely. Lee. She just Lisa basically ran away from the argument they were having about Lisa's alleged lawsuits. So yeah, so far Salt Lake City has not been letting us down one bit. And on our Patreon, we are actually recapping every episode along with myself and Olivia, our researcher, having a conversation style written recap that are really fun. That's patreon.com slash snarkbait pod. If you're interested in more of our thoughts on Salt Lake City because I know Christy is not watching even though she needs to. What is your DEO of the week? I saw something that Danielle Bernstein posted and it's like I'm not even gonna go through it's just one of those long-winded like pretty it's giving Pinterest like from 2013 about how when you experience situations that you thought were so heartbreaking and it led you to the place that you are today anytime it's very Khloe Kardashian coded anytime someone posts these inspirational quotes as a story it's like why don't you just tell everyone that you're struggling It gives the time, like when you see, you walk into someone's house and they have like the Marshalls thing on their wall.

55:42I am enough. I am enough. I am enough. It's like for$7.99, you can tell everyone in your orbit that you're struggling. I don't know. It's just embarrassing. It gives me an ick. Like stop doing it. It's very millennial mom Facebook. Here's the quote for context, you guys. She posted this quote from Momentary Happiness. And it says, isn't it weird how you can experience situations throughout your life that are so heartbreaking or stressful that you can't ever imagine being okay again. Then a few weeks, months, or even years later, you notice how the days go by without thinking about those times.

56:14You can laugh, you can smile, you can go about your day and realize that you're so much stronger and happier than you thought you could be ever again, blah, blah, blah. So it's, it's kind of like, oh my God, you go through that really hard time, but then it's all worth it. Cause here you are. Like in order to see the rainbow, there has to be rain kind of stuff, but people think she probably is insinuating like her ex-boyfriend his name is tony toby but people call him tony on reddit or no no people do call no it's his name actually is tony people call him toby on reddit sorry i got mixed up gotcha so yeah she's insinuating that her ex-boyfriend the heartbreak of her ex-boyfriend brought her to her now very happy relationship with her fiance which is like fair enough you guys no like i'm happy for her that she found her happiness but like this it's too much.

57:01I know. The quote, it's too much. I need you to talk about the second one that you wrote. I actually was when I was reading the outline before we jumped on, I went like I was actually laughing when I saw this. What the fuck is up with Kendall Jenner's middle finger? She's obsessed with it. Yeah. OK, so over the years, it's a known thing that Kendall Jenner loves flipping off, not just like the paparazzi, which I understand the paparazzi can be frustrating and people want to flip them off. Like, I've been there. No, I'm just kidding. Like, I mean, it's so frustrating. If only you guys knew. She'll take like mirror selfies.

57:36It's like she's like a 12-year-old. It's like why you're so edgy. It's so stupid. She just posted on Instagram. What was it, yesterday? I knew exactly which picture you were referring to because I too saw this on her Instagram. It's so annoying. It's just like, why are you flipping us off? This is what Sophie's note says. Dio Kendall Jenner's middle finger period why is she obsessed with it period I hate her I hate her wait look yeah why are you flipping us off what did we do I just think it's so immature and obnoxious and honestly I'm not one to be like a clutch my pearls at anything but I'm just like why are you saying fuck you with your finger to like just us in a photo and I know that it's just like a haha I'm so silly and edgy or like whatever it I know that she's not actually saying like, fuck you.

58:27But it's like, why? But it's not cute. It's not. And again, I am not a pearl clutcher, you guys. I'm really not. I swear. He has more blessings than 99.9999999 % of the world. Why the middle finger? Why are you so like angry? Also, you're what? 29 years old? Grow up. It plays into her whole shtick of I'm not like other girls. Like growing up, Kylie was always into makeup. and when her and my dad would talk about makeup like I don't really know about that stuff I'm like into atv-ing I just wanted to like ride horses and like jet ski I'm just more of like the gender side where I'm really into sports and being athletic I don't wear a lot of makeup I don't know she's so I'm just a nerd I like to paint with my friends on Saturdays remember when she said that yeah she just likes to stay in and paint like shut up that on a standalone basis is not even that obnoxious it's the fact that i've also heard she's not nice oh i mean yeah we've all heard that out of all the kardashians she is the rudest she's the rudest and i i think i said this story one time that i have a friend who has a friend who i talked to at their wedding who's a bodyguard for justin bieber and he said that kylie was literally the nicest he's like she's the nicest she's the best mom kim is whatever but yeah he always said kylie was very very genuine and sweet but Kendall I feel like I don't know they both had similar upbringings they grew up in this and I feel like Kendall came out of it just rude and Kylie at least has and entitled it's like the title entitlement also it's like I also had this written in my notes for the past few weeks there isn't much to say about it other than the fact that did you see that Kendall Jenner Gigi Hadid like vote cover the 2018 of it all and yeah everyone was like this feels like 2018 Like we are bored.

1:00:17It's like she was handed this. And I'm not trying to say that she doesn't work hard. I mean, I think that all of us work harder than Kendall Jenner does personally. But she was basically handed this model and career, handed these Vogue covers, handed these campaigns, and she's still not a good model. She has, thanks to being wealthy and having access to procedure, she has the face and the body. It's not natural, let's be honest. it's not. I mean, her body also, besides the surgery that she's had done, I'm sure that she works out really hard and diets and as a personal trainer, all that, which is obviously easier when you have the money and the access to things like a personal chef and a personal trainer, obviously.

1:00:58It's just like, she's still not a good model. Yeah. Would you say of between like Gigi, Bella, Kendall, I don't know much about like their modeling or whatever. Do you think like one is the best? And who would that be? What'd you say? Gigi and Bella at least have improved over the years. They also are, as we know, Nepo babies, but like they, I think have improved their modeling skills over the years. You see like them on the runway and in campaigns and in photo shoots and uncovers and you're like, wow, that's a beautiful, amazing model. Their experience is clear. Like they've just garnered a lot more experience.

1:01:33Yeah. They're better for it. Yeah. Kendall just goes. Yeah. And people even say sometimes, don't they say like Kylie's an even better model than Kendall. I feel like she is. So yeah, there's some sort of like entitlement with Kendall that really grinds my gears. And it's like the middle finger of it all. I don't know what it is exactly that pisses me off so much about when she does the middle finger. She doesn't weigh too much. I get it. Because if it's anyone else, I would be willing to let it slide. But with her, I'm just like something about her just it's unfortunate because she is so pretty and like she is kind of cool.

1:02:05But the fact that you're just not a nice person to fans and people around you, it just makes me really, I don't like you. I'm sorry. Grow up. Yeah. You have so much to be thankful for. You were, you're given everything. Everything is a commodity. Everything is easy for, like, not easy for you, but you have everything at your fingertips. Nothing is an inconvenience. You have nothing to be upset about. You have nothing to be angry about. Like, stop. We all have something to be angry about. The everyman in this country in 2025. Yeah. Everywhere. Literally everyone else has something to be angry about right now.

1:02:35Not you, Kendall. I'm sorry. It's tough out here. It's tough out here. My last EO is getting dressed lately. Why is getting dressed so hard? I don't care where I'm going. Maybe it's because I work in, like I work full time in the fashion industry. So I always feel like I need to like look kind of cute when I go to work. Oh my God. I didn't even put that together of like, that would be such a, like you're on a runway because everyone else is fashionable. It makes it, it makes it more challenging, I think, to get dressed. Because I've also worked in environments where I feel like I don't need to like look that fashionable.

1:03:08But where I work right now, I feel like I do. So it's like not even that. It's also like I will be getting dressed to walk Baxter. And I like will try on 10 outfits. Why? Is anyone else struggling with getting dressed lately? Maybe it's maybe it's the transitional weather. I don't know what it is where I just cannot get dressed. And I also feel as if I'm looking at my closet and I keep thinking, I don't have any clothes to wear. But like the closet is filled and I'm like, for the life of me, I'm trying to plan for a bachelorette that's happening in a couple of weeks here. And I'm like stressed because I, I'm like, what, what can I even wear?

1:03:44I have nothing. Not only is it hard for me to get dressed, but I also don't own any clothes apparently. I don't know. No, exactly. And then do you have like a chair in your bedroom that is a clothes chair? I just throw it on my bed. Oh, so I have a clothes chair. So I will try on 10 outfits and then I'll put the clothes, I'll throw them on the chair because I'm always running late. So I'll be in a rush. I don't have time to like hang them back up or put them away. And then it just turns into a huge messy pile every time I leave my house. Yeah. I need to do another haul of like a clothing haul, but out because I just have too much shit and it's crowded.

1:04:17And I'm like, I'm looking at this and I literally pick about seven things from this like whole fucking thing in my closet. Yeah. I need to just like do it. Yeah. I'm definitely do. I do closet clean outs probably like once a season and I will sell stuff with the RealReal, whatever your favorite secondhand or resale platform is. I highly recommend doing that because you can make money and make space. Sustainable, yeah. Yeah, sustainable. And then I also will donate stuff. So I'm definitely overdue for one of those. And I also think that I need to start, I'm just too lazy for this. I think about this all the time.

1:04:52Some people will like plan out outfits and they'll take pictures. They'll try on an outfit, take pictures. So then when they're in a rush, They have like an outfit idea already saved. So it's like, oh my God, yes, this outfit. Perfect. I already have this outfit idea. So I need to start doing that. I'm like too lazy usually, but I really think it's becoming a problem where I'm always running late because I can never choose an outfit. So I'm going to start doing that, I think. That's a good idea of having just photos of like go-to outfits that are just like, you know, we're going to fit you well.

1:05:21They're going to look good. You're going to feel confident in and you can just grab it. Like three, three outfits. I think that's a great like resolution to like curbing that. Yep, exactly. Okay, L-E-O's. Mine is, did you used to watch MTV's Life of Ryan? With Ryan Checkler? Of course. I thought he was so hot. Oh, same. Ryan Checkler and his friends Mitch, Casey, Tony, and Taylor. Remember? And like whenever he would do the narratives, my name is Ryan. My parents are divorced. forced and I knew in order to make sure that Cain my little brother had a safe place to be I bought a house for me like he would always talk in like intervals do you remember that I don't but now I need to go back and watch it like I don't know why but I was I went on a rabbit hole because it came up on my for you page and I was like huh you know his friend Casey with like the brown hair maybe I haven't watched it in like two decades Christine no the way that this like lives in my brain.

1:06:25Casey had big like luscious locks and I was like stalking him on LinkedIn. I'm like, what's Casey up to? What's Taylor up to? You were stalking him on LinkedIn. Yeah. I was like, where are they? They're in San Diego. I'm like, oh my God, maybe I'll go run into them. Like, I don't know. I, that show was so good. So funny. Where did MTV, because it was on MTV, right? Where did MTV find these people? They had like Life of Ryan. They had Cheyenne. Cheyenne. Why, where did they find these people? And then we would just watch these shows and be like, yeah, Who is this person? It's like, they were like the modern day Brooksnader where we were being like fastlet that this person is someone that we're supposed to know.

1:07:02Yeah, yeah. And we were all supposed to know who like the pro skateboarders were. Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, everyone loved Ryan Checkler. I remember last summer, Henry got like this like corduroy, like flat bill hat. And it was like, he got it at the shore. So it was kind of like a beachy hat. And I was like, you look like Ryan Checkler. Did we know who it was? Who that was? No, obviously not. Because he's a normal person. Yeah, that show was real good. Yeah, it was. TBT. That was such a good era. What was that show also? Eighth and Ocean was MTV, right? Oh. With the astigmatism twins. Yes.

1:07:40The models that lived in Miami. Yeah. Oh my God, Sophie. And I remember, I think I remember that theme song. What was that? I have to look it up. I have to look it up. but Eighth and Ocean, you just unlocks like a core memory that I totally forgot about. Let me, I don't remember the theme song, but we need to revisit that for sure. Yeah, Beautiful Love. Oh my God. By the Afters. I was obsessed. Let me see if I can stream it somewhere. It's on YouTube. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to watch it. That was such a time. Okay. So my light energy object, I just started drinking tart cherry juice with sparkling water every night before bed.

1:08:19I feel like I've talked about before, how I have high cholesterol and apparently it's really good for people with high cholesterol. It's good for your heart. And it also has natural melatonin in it. So I've been making myself, yeah. So I've been making myself like a sleepy time cocktail with cherry juice and sparkling water every night before bed. And it's honestly amazing. You guys, I highly recommend. Oh, I'm going to Trader Joe's after this. I'm going to, I'm putting that on my list. It like, honestly, it's not, it's not going to knock you out. Like what if you actually took a let me sleep gummy, but it helps.

1:08:52It helps. It has that natural, that natural stuff in it. Oh, okay. That's such a good life hack. I'll try it out for myself tonight. And it's just like yummy and good for you. So highly recommend it. It's like my new favorite ritual is just sipping that before bed. And then also have you seen, speaking of TikTok, the Benson Boone covers? No. Okay. So Benson Boone sings, what is that one song that he sings? I'm gonna be honest I hear everyone talk about Benson Boone what is a Benson Boone like I'm sorry I know I should know this I don't know who this person is oh my god I'm I'm having so much trouble remembering how that song beautiful things the beautiful things that I've done I want you I need you that one oh god yeah okay okay I know that okay yes he sings that song and That's like his one viral song.

1:09:45The rest of his music is just like not good. His last album got really bad reviews, but he is super, super talented because my For You page, I think I interacted once with some cover he did of Adele. What Adele song was it? And he sounded literally just when we were young and he sounded exactly like Adele. It was crazy. And now his covers keep coming up for me on my For You page and he's really talented. I think he just needs new songwriters. Like, love his covers because he's such a beautiful, amazing voice. But, like, his original songs just are not good. I kind of think about that where we have really talented artists.

1:10:22The first person that comes to my mind is T.I. where they have beautiful voices, but maybe they're given, like, bad tracks or they're not working with the right producers and they're pushing out stuff that's not really showcasing their voice. Tate McRae. Tate McRae is another one. Tate McRae. Yeah, or honestly, Miley Cyrus as well. She has such a powerhouse voice. And I find that when she really shines, it's when she's doing these covers. Yeah. But maybe they're just not working with the right production team. Yeah, exactly. I'm rooting for Benson Boone. Like, I know he's random and does backflips and leotards and stuff.

1:10:51But, like, I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for him. You know what? I would like to do a backflip and a leotard at, like, a live show. You know? Like, that would be, like, why don't we just— I relate to him because if I could do a backflip, I would never stop doing them. You know when I was in college because I was a gymnast? When I would get drunk, I would be, like, snooky. And I would start doing backflips at the club. Oh, my God. Can you still do a backflip? Mm-hmm. Wow. Once you can do it, like, you can't – you don't lose it. Like, it's just inherent in your body. Like, you just know how to do it.

1:11:20Wow. But when I would get drunk, I would do backflips. Oh, my God. Is that, like, your party trick? Yeah. Wow. My party trick is probably doing the worm. It's been a while. Yeah, I can do the worm. It's, like, the one thing I can do. Oh, my God. I love that. Well, if we ever do live shows, I'll come in. My entrance will be a backflip, and Sophie will come from either direction of the stage. I'll be doing back clips and Sophie will be doing the worm. Oh my God, stop. That's so Hannah Burner. I'm so sorry. Oh, you're right. Then we'll be in the middle and we'll slap like clap hands or something stupid like that.

1:11:50That is Hannah Burner. Oh my God. Ew. I'm sorry. That's so embarrassing. Never mind. Never mind. You'll never see me doing the worm. No, I still want to see it though. Okay, I'll show you in private. Maybe I'll take a video. Maybe I'll take a video for the patrons. Yeah. Have Henry take a video of you and then Baxter in the background just watching his mom like doing what she does best. Yeah. Speaking of Patreon, you guys, we have Wednesday Patreon exclusive episodes every week. So if you want more before Thursday, a new Patreon episode drops tomorrow at patreon.com slash snarkbait pod. Thank you to Jordan, our producer, Rachel, our social manager, and Olivia, our researcher.

1:12:29Follow us at snarkbait pod on Instagram. I am at Soph underscore Ross. Christy is at Christy Noel underscore underscore. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a five star rating and review. Did I miss anything? Tomorrow we're going to do the toast deep dive part two. So if you're interested in that, head on over there. Yep. That will be our Patreon episode tomorrow. So don't miss it if you're interested. Thank you guys for listening. We'll see you either tomorrow or on Thursday. Bye guys. Bye.

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