Dark Energy Tuesday (Love Island Finale, Summer House Updates, Taylor + Travis Wedding) 

26:11And we actually on Patreon did a whole deep dive that is coming out tomorrow about Lena Dunham's fame sick, what she has to say about Jack Antonoff, other juicy tidbits from her book. and then also Jack and Margaret and their relationship and their breakup and how it all comes together at the Drew Starkey rumors. So we talk about that on Patreon. But I just think it's so interesting that every single guest is photographed, but like you want privacy. You want privacy for your wedding dress. Right. I feel like that's it, which is Dior by Jonathan Anderson. And apparently those photos will be released at some point, obviously.

26:46I just don't know when. um so i said this uh a couple weeks ago i said i liked how selena gomez did it where the night of her wedding they people released photos because she knew people had curiosity about it i wish taylor had done that because we're all refreshing our pages at least the swifties myself included we're waiting to see these photos and it's like exactly you want privacy but like you hold you hold this biggest event of the season in the middle of manhattan the middle of the biggest city in the U.S. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'll defend her decision of MSG simply because of security, but I don't disagree with you.

27:21I think that it is a little bit, I don't know if tacky is the right word, but I see where you're coming from with that for sure. I just think she's leaned into her extra-ness since the Aeros tour. I think that, again, when she was with Joe, she was just so, so private. And now I think she's kind of able to be bejeweled and be the shining star that I think she always kind of desired to be when she was with Joe. And almost it's as if she's making up for lost time, it seems. So if that makes Taylor happy, then I'm happy. But I don't disagree with you that the wedding, the more details that we hear about with like the raffle and stuff, I'm just like, Jesus Christ.

27:59It's like my sweet peasants, who wants a Chanel bag? Everyone, like it's a little bit. I can't get past the buffet also, if that's true. And the fact that people, their vows were each 20 minutes, apparently. And it was obviously a very long, heartfelt ceremony in that the majority of people had to stand. I would be fucking pissed standing at a wedding ceremony. For 40 minute vows? And you're at Madison Square. You're in a stadium with how many seats? And I have to fucking stand? I was also wondering, that's kind of gross for your guests to use those restrooms in the stadium. I wonder how they outfitted.

28:35I'm sure there was like, was there like a bridal suite? It was one of the locker rooms? Like, how did they turn Madison Square Garden into something that was wedding appropriate? No, genuinely. Like, logistically, it probably there had to been so much planning, like the level of Aerosmith planning. But I completely agree. I would like to actually understand more of the logistics. Bathrooms, bridal suites. And apparently, she and Travis, like, paid the city of New York for, like, closing down the streets and all that. And it's like, okay, well, we don't care as New Yorkers. It's a fact that you, and I mean, I wasn't in the city.

29:12I don't know how inconvenienced people were, but I could imagine that people who were inconvenienced, obviously trying to get to Penn Station on a holiday weekend in 100 degree heat, they don't care that you paid back the city of New York. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Anyway, that's, those are my thoughts. I'm sorry, Swifties. I just, it's been like a rough past few months for me and Taylor between this and Life of a Showgirl. I'm falling out of love with her. Not that I ever was like a diehard Swifty, but like I love several of her albums so, so, so much. And she was like my number one artist on Spotify for like a couple years in a row.

29:52And now I feel like I'm just like, kind of gotten the ick a little bit. Yeah, she's become almost Taylor trademark. When I think of Taylor Swift, I don't think of the girl that used to have tea party at the end of her concerts and met fans and would have these secret sessions. She's become a brand. And I think at some point, I do understand that, but it's not the same Taylor that I feel like I grew up with in high school. You know what I mean? I mean, how could you be? But I hear you. I think that's a fair criticism. And I think that people are kind of at this point in time, it's kind of like a bit of eat the rich mentality.

30:26I think she's definitely a part of that as well. I mean, nothing that I can think of in recent memory gives Marie Antoinette as much as this wedding did. Yeah, a lot of people would agree. And it wasn't her fault there was 100 degree heat. There was a heat wave in New York. Like, obviously not her fault, but like it just added to the bad optics of it all. Right. When people are already a little bit fatigued, I think. And then it's just, it's so in your face. Yeah, exactly. I still love her, but I hear your criticisms and I think that they're all valid. Yeah. Let us know what you guys, I mean, I'm sure that you guys all have shared your thoughts already, but since I was out of office, I would love to hear.

31:04Let us know. People were dying for your opinions. We need Sophie on this damn episode. Like, get Rachel and Christy out of here. Oh, because you guys are reading Swifties. Yeah, me and Rachel were egging each other on, and, like, I get that, you know? I can, like, people are going to say, Christy always changes her tune. Like, I hear the criticisms, and I think, you know, a week out, I don't think what you're saying is incorrect. I still love my girl, and I want her to be happy, but I don't think that anyone would disagree with this take. I didn't. I admittedly did not listen to DT last week. I'm sorry.

31:36Are you offended? No. I honestly, I haven't listened to yours and Olivia's episodes. It's been honestly like such a cluster. I was fully offline. Yeah. And it's been a cluster. I was fully offline. I'm behind on all my podcasts and all my shows. But so you and Rachel loved it. We were fangirling over it. Yeah. I mean, we didn't know as much as we do now. At that point when we recorded, we didn't know about the raffle. The buffet. Yeah. Yeah. The buffet. If you guys can't tell, like I am fully flabbergasted by the buffet. No, I think it's true. No, no, no. I completely I've been to so many weddings in my day and I feel like the majority of them are table service.

32:16Well, buffet is fine. If that's like your, you know, it's not a black tie wedding. It's, you know, a little bit more casual. I've been to plenty of gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous weddings that had buffets. It's the fact that you are having this extravagant, a thousand person black tie wedding. You're going to ask a thousand people to line up at a buffet and wait their turn to get food. Like that's just not like the experience. Yeah, it's not the experience that you expect if you're going to a fancy wedding like this. When I think about like an accounting convention I went to last year in Atlanta, Georgia, and we were at a convention stadium.

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37:17Should we talk about, what do you want to talk about next? Summer House? Yes. I, okay, can I just say, I used to listen to Girls Gotta Eat and there was this friend that they always talk about. His name is Bobby Westside. There is some lore with him. He's a founder and CEO of this app called Adonis. And he was married to a fellow fitness instructor named Izzy. And Raina and Ashley would always talk about him. And there's been allegations online that Bobby and reyna are dating ever since he got divorced like he just got married in 2023 they divorced shortly thereafter oh and reyna and him have been spending a lot of time together she's moved back to new york city they always post these photos on their on their grids as if they are together he's been he bothers me so oh has he been hanging out with the summer house people yes is that okay yes i i did see this that people are like is he gonna be on the summer house cast i can't stand him Like, I find him to be so thirsty and performative.

38:15And I just, like, I really turned off of Girls Gotta Eat probably a year ago. I haven't listened for almost a year. I met them when I was in Vegas for a bachelorette party. And Raina was just not, she was just kind of rude. Ashley was very nice. But Raina thought, like, her shit didn't sink. I just don't like them anymore or her. And Bobby Westside just gives me the ick. Like, he's the kind of guy that, like, it's the guy that does, like, the duck lips photo in every Instagram post. You know what I mean? It's just not, it's not the kind of people that you want to hang out with. And it's like, dude, you're, like, pushing 40.

38:46Like, why are you putting duck lips on and, like, trying to be thirsty around the Summer House crew? Like, I really hope he's not on it. Like, I pray to God he's not on it. Meanwhile, half the Summer House crew is 45. No, I know. So maybe actually he's right up. He's actually a perfectly casted member. But I just don't want him with the attention. I don't know anything about him, but if you don't like him, I don't like him. But have you also seen the rumors or people speculating that Remy Bader could be potentially on the cast because she has been spotted with, you know, all the cast? She is not mentally unwell or she is not mentally well enough for reality TV, in my opinion.

39:28I feel like that would be a really, really, really bad. Or it could be amazing to me because she is so unwell. Right. It could be like a hotter situation. Yeah, it could be a hotter situation. But I don't think that's true, honestly. I think that she's from West Hampton originally, so I feel like she is just out in the Hamptons and she's friendly with the cast. You're like influencer circles. So I doubt that's true. But the rumored cast, they usually start filming the weekend of the 4th of July, but I guess they waited for Sierra to come back from Fiji and officially started filming this weekend.

39:58And the rumored cast is Sierra, Mia, KJ, Carl, Lindsay, Kyle, Bailey, Jesse. And I think that's it. Oh, wow. Okay. So, and then, okay, there could be potential other new cast members. We're just obviously not aware of them yet because they haven't been announced. Yeah. Or there could be friend-ofs. But this is like the core cast, apparently, based on, you know, rumors that have been circulating. So what do you think of this cast? I think it's pretty solid. Yeah. I actually am kind of shocked that Sierra is back. Like, for some reason, I thought she wasn't going to be. I don't know why. I thought she would pop in.

40:30Me too. Like, how linds it get this season. And not be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not be full-time. But it sounds like she is going to be full-time. And why not, honestly? You know, it's like, Sierra's probably like, it's my time to step into the spotlight. I'm not going to have West. I'm not going to have Amanda. So, yeah. And then, oh, did you see Amanda and West were in Missouri or Montana or whatever it is at his family's farm. So, she went to the farm. for some wedding. Yeah, I did see that. Wes has, say what you want about Wes. This man has a friend on every continent, every city. Getting married.

41:07Getting married. This man is the most popular man I've ever seen in my life. Like he's at a wedding every weekend. Shocking. It's shocking that people choose to hang around him. Right. And how he's officiating like two of the past weddings he's attended. Yeah. That groom and bride, they need to get better friends. And if you want the man who is the most fearful of commitment, biggest fuck boy officiating your wedding. There's no one less qualified. Correct. But why is he, it like makes me question, like, are we the psychos? Why is everyone so obsessed with him? Like, I don't get it. No, he's just at the age.

41:40He's like 31, I think. So he's at the age where everyone's getting married. Like, I've had summers where we've had like 10 weddings in a row. No, right. So it's just, he's at that age. I think that that's very normal. um but yeah i wouldn't say that that makes him anything special let's be honest i know it just it gives me pause that he's officiating so many weddings like that that is crazy that makes me like i agree a hundred percent when you reach a certain age late 20s early 30s you're getting every freaking weekend it seems like why are you officiating so many i've not officiated one let alone two no that's crazy like that's what is he that charismatic are we not seeing something No, I feel like he just...

42:23He's like goofy. I mean, we've seen him on TV. He is charming, unfortunately. Yeah, I know. He is charming and he's social. But like we have seen the real him now. Right, right. Can I really quickly talk about Sierra on Aftersun and how much heat she's getting? Yeah, like what's... I haven't seen any of this. So I've been watching Aftersun because I'm just curious, like how is she as a host? I think that it doesn't come as, I think, I'm not trying to like make it seem like it's super easy. I'd imagine hosting looks seemingly very easy when in fact it's actually incredibly hard. To read off of a teleprompter, to feel engaged, to move your hands, to connect with the people that you're interviewing, it's tough.

43:02And I think that for Ariana, she made it look so seamless and easy because she is a natural host. She's now Emmy nominated. Emmy nominated. Yeah, she deserves that. She 100 % deserves that accolade because Ariana is a talent. I remember watching her on season six, her first time hosting and being like, she's a natural at this. Like, how is she so good? I think with Ciara, she doesn't, it's not as natural. And in the episode before the finale that aired, I think on Saturday, Ciara was talking with Teffy about how she felt for Melanie. Because Melanie's family came to the island and her mother was crying, her sister was crying, urging Melanie, please do not give sincere another chance.

43:41He's going to step out on you. He is not doing you well. he is not the man that you deserve and they were sobbing to melanie being like we don't want to see you like this he's not the one for you and melanie of course is like i hear you but i don't care i want to go back to sincere and sierra was she was like crying for melanie and so was teffy and she was basically saying i know what it's like to you know tell have everyone tell you that this man is not right for you and you're just wanting to hold on because you love them it was like oh my god sierra enough like please enough with like the hearkening back to wes and how much of a fuckboy you were it just it's a little bit it's a tough it's a tough watch okay but i think beyond that i'm kind of just feeling like sierra this enough of this west stuff she's just not a natural host is teffy teffy also not a natural host like really yeah i think that they don't have great chemistry together and people have said mentionings like it seems like sierra doesn't really care for teffy and she's a little bit snippy with her and there's people like i haven't really seen that to be honest but people are kind of putting that together and they even address it Sierra and Tuffy.

44:43And they're like, we hear what you guys are saying that we don't like each other. Oh, people have said that about us, which is so funny. You know what? People will say that, I think, about any two female podcast duo. It's not just us. It's literally every single two women. Anyone. This person doesn't like this person. And I think it's a little bit. Also, like, I feel like if you're a certain level of close, you can be a little sassy with each other and not take it personally. A hundred percent. Like when Sophie always makes fun of my car and like my TV choices, I make fun of Sophie's voice.

45:17Your fuck ass car. No, do you know what? Now my, if you can believe it or not, my fob doesn't work. So now I have to actually physically go to my car and un, do you know how fucking annoying it is, Sophie? You have to like turn a key to unlock your car. Correct. Christy, it's time. It's enough. Sophie looking at me straight in the eye. Hey, would it kill you maybe to upgrade? Ha ha ha. You have a fucking cassette player still. It's time. It's, it's, it actually, it's like, it's not funny anymore. Like. It's not funny. But I think I'm better run this car. I was looking at the house like, oh, I want to add this.

45:50And I was like, I want to, I was like, God, everything is so fucking expensive now. Like, I want to add so many things to my house. And it's like, something's got to give, Nance. You know what I mean? It's taking the budget. It's taking the budget away from the car upgrade. That's, that's exactly right. Oh, priorities. Anyways, what are we talking about? Okay. So Sierra, she's so bothered and she needs to get off of threads. It's every damn episode. She's on threads. Okay, so let me read you something that she posted on June 27th. Quote, you guys need to fucking relax. We filmed for six hours.

46:17Perspectives get left on the cutting room floor. I could psychoanalyze all of Love Island for hours and write a dissertation on Black people, colorism on reality TV. Don't talk to me about how I fail to see any persons of color's perspective or how I need more empathy. I've quite literally lived it. And this went viral. Everyone's like, Sierra, please. I get wanting to clap back. I think she also needs to recognize that the Love Island audience is so massive and so insane, and you will never satisfy everyone. And the more you feed into it, you're just making yourself look bothered. Yeah, exactly.

46:51You're making yourself look bothered, and you just need to not—and it's a learning experience. I'm sure that she's learning as she goes that you will never, ever, ever satisfy the Love Island audience. There is not one person that has been on that show, in my opinion, that has been universally beloved. I'm sure there are still people that don't like Ariana as hosts. It's like you will never satisfy that many people. It's just not possible. It's physically not possible. So, yeah, I feel like it just makes you look bad when you respond. Right. And I think this, coupled with how she was behaving on Summer House and clapping back, I just, sometimes it just feels like, it's just like, Sierra, just please get off threads for a second.

47:31she can do so much by walking away and letting her work speak for itself you've gotten off of summer house or i guess she's back on but you left summer house and one of the most like traumatic seasons for you understandably so you're this guy and your best friend totally betrayed you and you have every right to be upset i think that let your work and you being on carpets with john ham and being at the golden globes and hosting after let that speak for itself you you were like gorgeous cool smart you're a nurse you have everything going for you let that speak for yourself you You don't need to let everyone know how bothered you are.

48:00I just, I want her to know that. But of course, easier said than done. She definitely has a different approach to everything than Ariana did. Because Ariana kind of took the route of you will never hear me say your name ever again. She never brought up, you know, what happened to her, really. She just went on her rocket ship and has all the success now. And like you said, lets it speak for itself. And I think that Sierra is handling it a little bit differently. I don't think, you know, one way is right, one way is wrong. I would probably, if I were her team, I would advise her to, like, just not react on threads and not thread so much because, you know, you have so much goodwill right now and you don't want to chip away at that by saying the wrong thing.

48:42That's a good way to say it, by the way. You have goodwill right now. You're on the high. Let that speak. Yeah, exactly. That would be my advice if I were her team, but she obviously can do whatever she wants. But that's interesting. I hadn't seen any of the, like, after-sun drama. It's just bad. It's really bad. Really? I was thinking, not to toot my own horn, but I'm like, Sophie and I could do this. Like, better. Genuinely. Like, it's not... Because really what they do on Astrosign is it's basically a podcast episode for 30 minutes. They just riff about the episode. And then they come on and bring the dumped Islanders there to interview.

49:16So it's like half podcast, half interview. You and I have better banter, I feel like. Not to toot our own horns, but I think most other podcasts who do this professionally. Is it always two people? I remember Maura Higgins did it at one point. It was just her, right? You know what? I've never watched After Sun in previous seasons, but I think you're right. Maura Higgins, the one, only her, hosted After Sun. It wasn't a dynamic. I feel like if you're going to have two hosts, they need to have, like, good chemistry and good banter. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of—you said something the other day, and I'm trying to think of it.

49:45It's at the tip of my tongue, and now I forgot. Oh. Was it about Love Island? What? No, no. Wait, okay. You and Olivia did hot takes, and I saw The Carousel, and I have not listened to it. What did you say about Ciara? Oh, no, you're going to have to listen to Patreon. Okay, head on over to Patreon.com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about Wes, Sierra, Amanda a little bit in some of our hot takes with that situation, but you're going to have to listen to Patreon to know exactly what we said. Sorry. Love that, love that. Plug the page. Nothing makes you appreciate good bedding more than a hot summer night, especially when your air conditioning is broken like ours was recently.

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54:24Sometimes I'm feeling white. Sometimes I'm feeling yellow. Wait, I love this. You're influencing me. Oasis ambient lighting, 100 % obsessed. They have it all over my house. And by the click of a button, all the ambient lights turn on. So this morning, it was dark out when I got up. And boop, everything's on. Love that. So that is my L.E.O. What are yours? What is yours? My L.E.O. is Netflix's Worst Blank Ever series. Have you watched these? Obviously, I've seen them all over. I'm like the, not the F.Y. Oh, my God. So good. So it started with, I think, Worst Roommate Ever was the first one. Yes.

54:57And then Worst Ex Ever. And then the most recent one is Worst Neighbor Ever. And they're so good. Every episode is like a different, it's like a docu-series. Every episode is a different story. And it's just so well done. And so crazy. Like all these crazy stories that I never heard about that, you know, these ultimately end up being true crime stories, basically. Like they really are the worst neighbors ever. You know what? I did hear that Worst Neighbor Ever was like one of the best series right now on Netflix. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. It's so good. I highly recommend it, you guys. I have binged.

55:33I hadn't watched the other ones before. So I binged Worst Neighbor Ever and I was like, I need more. So then I watched the two seasons of Worst Sex Ever. I think there are two seasons. Two seasons of Worst Roommate Ever. And I just flew through them. So, so good. Highly recommend. Speaking of Netflix documentaries, I just watched the Shipwrecked documentary. Oh, my God. So did I. There's so much they left out, though. Dude, so much. I feel like. And honestly, they should have paid tribute more to the victims. I understand that they got that. Yeah. They focused on this couple so much with the baby.

56:03And then it ended on a sex joke about them. I guess they got pregnant with their second on the cruise ship and then it ended. And I was like, wait, what about the 32 people who died? Why are you ending on a sex joke? It was like so disrespectful. No, I know. But it really was fucking crazy what happened because I remember when it happened in 2012. It's about the Costa Concordia cruise ship disaster. Costa Concordia. Yep. Italian cruise ship. Yep. Yes. And I remember in 2012 when this happened, you saw the photos and you saw, obviously, it's really bad. The cruise ship was on its side and all these people died.

56:33You also were like, oh, they're so close to shore. So it's like it didn't seem as scary as it actually was. Like watching it, you're like, oh, my God, these people are literally fighting over lifeboats like the Titanic. Like it was terrifying. Lost electricity, people, you know, falling into the water. I think some of the people that fell from the lifeboats into the water got sucked into the bowels of the ship. Stop. No. And they didn't focus on the victims at all, honestly. They focused on, obviously, this one girl was on the cruise for her mom's birthday, and it's so sad her mom tragically died, and I guess she was with a friend also.

57:12Didn't even mention how the friend died, too. What happened to Louisa? Yeah. Or Lucia? Was it Lucia? Yeah, it's not with an L. See, they didn't even focus on her at all. Yeah, I was wondering the same. I would be so offended if I were a family member of one of the victims watching that. Well, apparently, I think what they didn't focus on was just like the corporate greeting and all. And like they basically shone all the light on the captain who eventually he abandoned ship before the passengers, which is a no-no. You're supposed to go down with the ship. Go down with the fucking ship. When the Coast Guard was like, get back on the ship, you coward.

57:43I was like, yes, I love that Coast Guard. Right. And what they failed to mention was that Costa Concordia was an Italian subsidiary of Carnival Cruise Ship, which is still very much operable today. I did not even know that. Casa Concordia was basically on the fritz, their brand. And so the only way for them to keep the brand alive was to get acquired by an American-based company, which ended up being Carnival Cruise Line. And it's just, it's all just, there's a lot more to this that was not shown to your point. But I feel like that could have been a four-part series. They didn't even mention that.

58:13Like, what the fuck? I know. Yeah. Of course they did, yeah. There's so many critical parts. Honestly, I highly recommend that documentary as a starting point for diving deeper into what actually happened because it really, really, really doesn't cover, you know, nearly enough of what actually happened. But it's still, you know, an interesting watch for sure. I was so annoyed at that couple. The dad, I'm sorry, the fucking dad who was talking about walking ahead of his wife and baby and the wife was carrying the baby. Why are you? So the baby also was like 18 months or something. 15 months. Probably like, you know, 20, 25 pounds.

58:54I don't know how much a 15-month-old weighs. Not, I have enough nephews to know that that is not light. That is not easy to carry around a baby of that age, to run around. She was also like throwing up and he was like, come on. And then he tried to make himself look like the hero at the end. He was the one crying. He was like, I'm just, I, and she was comforting him. He was crying and she was comforting him. No, I know. You know, and just so everyone's clear to Sophie's earlier point, the cruise ship hit a rock. And so it was tilting to the point where it was now on, literally on its side. You can imagine when people are, when it's tilting, it becomes the entire floors become slides.

59:32So they are not only running, it's not flat ground. It's like either sideways, heavy, heavy angle or down. Yeah. So I'm done. Come on. She's literally carrying it. And he was talking about running. yeah she was carrying the baby and he was running ahead it's like no if you're the husband you should be a carrying the child and b making sure that your wife is in front of you and okay how did you get so he was like the lights went off and we got separated it's like how did you let that happen like why were you running ahead of your wife and child like and then he oh my god and then he he said at the end by god's grace we survived or she lived talking about his baby infant daughter.

1:00:09And then the producer goes, you saved her. And he goes. And it's like, no, your wife did. Your wife was the one carrying her. No, and like, no, that's so true. I did think that was a little odd because they were in the lifeboat. And what happened was the lifeboat tilted and they fell off and they had to grab onto the ship and they hoisted themselves back on the ship. Yes. And I'm sure that was incredibly stressful. Of course. Like being in that situation with their infant daughter, obviously incredibly stressful. But yeah, to a point, when they're on the lifeboat and they fell, the wife had the baby strapped to her.

1:00:41The wife had the baby did. Exactly. Like the producer was like, you saved her. And he was like, I did, didn't I? It's like, no, your fucking wife did. I didn't catch. And then at the end, they were talking about like her, you know, the baby having like PTSD. Right, right. It's like, she's won. She's not going to remember this. No, I'm sorry. I know it's like not funny, but like if you guys watch the documentary and see this husband, it'll piss you off too. Right, no. It's literally like the wife was the superhero in this situation. Not the husband. But the husband was acting like he was like, I had to do what I had to do to save my wife and child.

1:01:15And it's like, you didn't do fucking shit. I'm sorry. It was your wife. The wife didn't even correct him. You're right. He was in tears and she was comforting him even though literally the baby was on her back. Yes. Her chest. Yes. No, I didn't catch when she was vomiting. He's like, hurry up. He's like, come on. Turns out she was like very newly pregnant, I guess. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was literally having motion sickness only for the damn ship that's tilting 90 degrees. But she was also pregnant. Give her a break. Guys, let us know what you think. I'm done. That guy pissed me off. I'm serious.

1:01:46Hurry up. God. So bad. And he was the one so upset at the end. She was covering him. He had no weight on him. It was her. Yep. He was running ahead. God. I hate that guy. I'm sorry. What they went through obviously was awful. But the wife was the superhero. Give her credit. A hundred percent. And she was so graceful. She barely spoke in that damn doc. It was him. Mouth it off for both of them. Mouth it off. Yeah. By God's grace. Shut up. It's a good doc. But obviously just a really, yeah, really tragic situation. And I just wish that they had focused less on that couple and more on the actual victims.

1:02:24That is the point that we're trying to make here. I wanted at the ending credits them to show all the victims' names. Yeah, same. I had to look it up. I Googled the victims. And the fact that there was a five-year-old girl, five-year-old girl that died. And she was just a footnote, barely mentioned at all. And the fact that, you know what, is really tragic if you looked up, you know, the ages of the victims. Most of them were elderly, which is so sad. Two Americans that died were an elderly couple. And then most, there were obviously some younger folks, some younger crew members. But most of the passengers who died were in their 60s and 70s, which is obviously the oldest was like 80 something.

1:03:05And again, they didn't they didn't focus on this at all. And I would have liked them to focus on, you know, the victims and less about that. That fucking dad. Hurry up. I know. I couldn't with him. OK, so my dark energy object other than that guy. When you pick a restaurant, you like make a reservation and then you go there and it's empty. And you're like, this is so embarrassing that I made a reservation. And also, like, is this restaurant bad? You know what I always find, too? When you go on, like, Resi or Open Table and you go and it's like, okay, I want three people for, like, 7 p.m. And it has all the times available.

1:03:38The slot is open. Yeah. You're like, never mind. No, literally. Never mind. Literally. No, that happened to me in Carousel where I was like, oh, my God, everyone on TikTok recommends this restaurant. It ended up filling up. It ended up being packed. When we got there, we were, like, I guess the first people there. It was, like, 6 p.m. It was called KOM, K-O-M-E, and everyone on TikTok recommended it. It was actually so fucking good. You guys, the best meal we had in Carousel, so I highly recommend it. But when we got there, it was empty. I was like, did I make a mistake? Like, why is no one here?

1:04:09I would question myself, too. I would freak out, especially if, like, you're the one that made the reservation. Yeah, made a reservation. And then I'm like, why did I make a reservation? This is so embarrassing. No, I totally, I completely, completely get that. And that's like a, I mean, like, to make a reservation, the pressure is on. Yeah. It's like, no, I did my research. Trust me on this one. then the entire reservation is open. Yeah, I was like, wow. What do you mean? But then it ended up, like I said, filled up and it was delicious. So if you're in Carousel, go to Comb. Okay, I have two DEOs, one of them not listed.

1:04:38First of all, one DEO is delayed shipping. Like when I'm promised something and then it doesn't arrive until two weeks later, forget about it. I have, that is so funny you say that. I ordered my dad, for all of the siblings, I took the initiative, ordered my dad a Viore waffle tea that actually Henry has it and loves it. And I was like, oh my God, my dad would love this. Ordered it for Father's Day. It just delivered. Yesterday. See, that's not right. That's close. Viore, you guys. I'm sorry. Like, what is your problem? This is my first time. I've been to the Viore store, which is where I got Henry that waffle tea.

1:05:10Right. So I've been to the store, had never ordered online, and will never do it again. Because what do you mean your shipping took a month? No, that's insane. No, no, no. I feel like that's a mistake. You should, I feel like you should, if you paid for shipping, you should get refunded for that for real. I just assumed, I kind of forgot about it. I was like, oh, I'm sure it delivered. And my dad isn't the kind of person that's like, oh, kids, I got the present. He just is an absent-minded dad. So I just assumed he did it. And then when I got the shop, I have the shop app or whatever. Sure, yeah.

1:05:37And I got the notification, oh, your order is about to be picked up by UPS. And I was like, my order from a month ago? Has this been your guys' experience with Viore? Let me know. Yeah, I've never, actually never ordered from Viore ever in my life. That was insane. It makes me never want to order from there. No, I echo that sentiment. I think that is ridiculous. That is so funny you say that, though, because I was like, that's insane. It pisses me off. Second thing is making your bed. It's always a fucking commotion. Like, I don't like that. I don't like making my bed. Oh, my God, it's so worth it.

1:06:11It is. No, the juice is 100 % worth the squeeze. Putting the damn duvet in the damn duvet cover, getting the flat sheet and tucking it. Oh, you mean changing your sheets? Sorry, yes, yes. Sorry, making your bed is much easier. But like when you have freshly fresh whatever sheets. Yes. When you have to redo it. Yeah. Don't talk to me for the rest of the day. No, it's genuine. I'm like panting. Yeah, no, it's a workout. I actually like the duvet cover is one of the hardest things. They need to invent a duvet cover that's easy to put on. And don't tell me that you tried the sushi rule tactic, the YouTube video.

1:06:46I have tried all of them. It's still never easy. I don't care how easy you pretend it is. It's really not that easy. They need to invent something that's easier. I'm sorry. No, I know. And it's like, at this point, we should have figured it out by now. We're taking cars to the moon. All right? When 2026? What are we doing here? I'm done having to figure this out by myself, okay? Yeah. There's 5 million things I got to do during the day. This is the last thing I want to do after a busy day, okay? Oh, absolutely. No, I will never, ever, ever change my sheets after a busy day. It has to be like on a weekend, like first thing, I have all of the energy because it's just not going to happen after a busy...

1:07:24You know it's going to take you hours. No, no, genuinely. People listening to this are like, are you guys fucking serious? No. It's hard. If you're a real one, you'll agree. You know exactly the trials and tribulations when it comes to redoing the sheets. And putting on a new flat sheet just knowing that you're going to kick it off, you know, within two days. I'm still to hurry up. Hurry up. Hurry up. Try to find the log side of the fitted sheet. And then you do it wrong. You do it wrong, and then you have to start. You have to turn it around. Yeah. It's a whole damn thing. It's a whole production.

1:07:57Yeah. It really is. Pisses me off. Yeah. Okay, well, tomorrow on the Patreon, like Sophie said, we're talking about Jack Anshonoff, Lena Dunham's fame stick, how Margaret Qualley and Drew Starkey kind of go into there. It's such a snarkbait coded episode. It really is. This whole scandal is snarkbait coded. Thanks for the baby snarkbait. That message, Justin, told us that. Thursday, we have a very, very, very famous pop star that is touring the globe. You guys know who we're talking about. And yeah, Patreon every Tuesday, Thursday, every episode. And if you're a business runner, we do live chats throughout the day.

1:08:30And bonus episodes every Wednesday on Patreon. And follow us on Instagram at SnarkFatePod. And our newsletter, our sub stack, goes out every Friday. So that's in our show notes also. All the links we're loving, links that are making us laugh. It's just a good time over there. So we love you guys so much, and we'll see you tomorrow on Patreon or Thursday for another episode of What's Snark. Thanks, guys. Bye.

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