Dark Energy Tuesday (Summer House Reunion Part 1)

24:01Remember her in season four with Jules when she was like, if you date a liar, I think you're a liar. Of course I remember that. You're the biggest fucking liar, Amanda. And by the way, when I said angry about Sierra, that probably wasn't the best word. I feel like that plays into the trope of angry black woman. And that's not what I was trying to say. I just meant that instead of being emotional and I feel like she was on the reunion two years ago where Paige was kind of sticking up for her. She was, she went in guns blazing and I loved it. It's purely complimentary. She was reasonably upset. I'm not trying to be like Nick Vile, who referred to Sierra and me as aggressive, by the way.

24:35He is. Everyone needs to stop downloading his show. Even if you want to see a guest that he's interviewing, stop it. Get the transcript or something else. Like, it's seriously not funny anymore. We need to stop. We need to de-platform this man. He always does this to black women. De-platform Nick Vile. Yeah. Always. Always. It's a pattern. And that's why there are people like defending him and being like, you didn't listen to it. Like he actually was complimenting them. But it's like this is a pattern of microaggressions towards black women. He used to do it to Tateisha. To Tateisha, too, of The Bachelor.

25:04I completely believe it. Yeah, he just has a pattern of doing this and no one holds him accountable because I don't know why. It's really odd. But what was I going to say? Another thing that I was talking about on my Instagram was this is how I know Amanda doesn't have friends. Because if any of my friends, if I were in Amanda's position and I was like, this is the reunion day. first of all, if I didn't have a PR team, which I'd imagine they both don't because everyone asked them and they were like, didn't answer. So like they didn't have a crisis team help them with that statement clearly. But none of my friends would have allowed me to walk up on that stage and behave in the way that Amanda did.

25:35Like it's shocking to me that no one is in her corner helping her. Except Katie DeLuca. Yeah. Katie DeLuca. Everyone's like the name Katie DeLuca. Like it's so, of course, that's your best friend since third grade. Katie DeLuca. Right. Like her parents did an excellent job naming her because that is just a great, great. Girl, you've known since third grade name. Yeah, a hundred percent. But it's clear to me that she has no one in her corner looking out for her because I can't even imagine any of my friends encouraging that type of behavior. In fact, they would slap me across the head if they saw me behaving like that.

26:07We would have had a mock trial if that were my friend. Absolutely. You know what's weird is that I have followed a mock trial. I've followed Amanda on Instagram for so fucking long, literally since her first season. And she used to have friends. Like, she used to go to Montauk with friends. Like, she wasn't in the Summer House season one. She would stay with friends. Like, what happened to all of those friends? Like, it's and then people are like, what happened with Paige? Because Amanda, Paige was Amanda's bridesmaid. Like, what? Like, literally, why does she have no friends? It's like so bizarre.

26:38But yeah, no notes on Sierra and Mia's performance. I feel like Mia being there this season, being a newbie this season was such a freaking blessing. Oh, my. Just having both, and also Lindsay. Lindsay and Mia, like, tag-teaming with Sierra was, like, flawless, no notes. Yeah. Yeah. What? I'm thinking of Mia going, when they bring up Miha, who was a West girlfriend. Yeah. And he says, not girlfriend, we were seeing each other. Like, okay, semantics. Like, shut up. And everyone was saying you were exclusive. You've told many a person you guys were exclusive. Yeah. And Mia goes, Amanda, you went from being someone's wife to being Wes's side bitch.

27:24Why are you one of his side bitches? Why are you doing this? It's unnecessary. Yeah. Yeah. But she says, this is unnecessary. It's so funny. Mia is such a breath of fresh air. She brings such like levity, but also intelligence. Amazing addition. Amazing addition. She is just fabulous. Her and KJ, it is just such a nice pair to join the summer house. Bailey as well. Yeah. It's just star. Great newbies. Ben, enough. Sorry, because I hate Ben. I loved when Bailey went after Ben. It was one of my favorite parts of the reunion. She's like, you hate women, stop it. And then Sabrina Bell coming out under the work saying, just letting you guys know Ben treats his mother and me with so much grace.

28:02It's like, I don't care how he treats him and his mother. I mean, you and his mother. What does he exhibit on this season of the show? Sabrina Bell. You guys, Sabrina Bell's stans are going to come out in the comments. I'm sorry. Ask yourself this one question, okay? Would you be friends with her in real life? If the answer is no, stop coming for us about bullying Sabrina Bell. She's weird. She's weird. Sorry. She's weird. I just, I don't know. Like, Sabrina Bell. I just loved how Bailey was like, the way you talk to women, you could tell about like she was seeing the comments from people online and being like, you know what?

28:36Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the way that he talks to men, it did the little montage where it was like him looking at Kyle and being like, it's okay, buddy. It's okay. Why does he take off his hat before hugging Kyle? That was a little odd. Because they were like going to kiss. Yeah, literally. Like I feel like Ben genuinely, I mean, it doesn't surprise me because he's talked about his relationship with his father and how his father like kind of like led with an iron fist and was just very hard on them and had a very like strict household. I feel like he has learned to be like respectful to men because he was probably fearful of his dad.

29:08But the way that Ben's eyes shift when he's upset, when he came into Bailey's room, stomped on all of her shit, sat down on her bedroom, sat down on her bed and was accosting her. OK, it just was something was very dark. And I loved how Levi was like something in your eyes shifts when you get upset. Like it's a it's a noticeable difference in your face. He's a very scary man. And I would love to never see him on my screen again. Shout out Levi. We actually saw that Levi and Bailey were hanging out with Kyle and Jesse for like an Amazon event on Instagram. And you know what? I would be okay with that being the cast next year.

29:41I know that it's up in the air if Sierra is going to come back. Obviously, I don't think Wes and Amanda are going to come back. But I would be happy with that. Like, I think that Bailey and Levi have a really good, genuine friendship. Bailey is a star. I want to see more of Levi. Me too. So I would be okay with that. And going back to the me-haw of it all. So I think Amanda was realizing things in real time. Like the fact that Miha, they mentioned that she slept over with Wes during his Watch What Happens Live appearance in March. So that was March 24th. And that Sierra also has sleepovers with him in the fall.

30:14I don't think Amanda knew either of those things. No. But she would never admit it. Of course. You could see her getting more and more uncomfortable as the minutes went on because they kept revealing more. Yes. Yeah, she takes a deep breath. She like closes her eyes and takes a deep breath. Yeah. Yeah. What was I going to say about Miha? I would love to have had Miha as a guest star on this reunion because I feel like she would have offered so much more context about their relationship. And I genuinely feel like she should have just come because she's a big critical part of this story. And I think that actually above all else, beyond what he did to Ciara, I think the Miha thing and that betrayal, obviously no one cares because Miha's not on TV.

30:54but I actually think the Miha betrayal is the most jarring part of this entire thing. Yeah, because he had a fucking secret girlfriend. Right. I think that actually is very, very critical to this, well above Sierra. It just shows how sociopathic and insane. And I don't know, just Wes doesn't give a fuck about any of his behavior, but I think the Miha piece is the biggest part of it. Another thing I was thinking about was it kind of makes sense why Carl's a mess because at the end of the day, like you said, Wes and Amanda won't be returning to the season of Summer House. It's already been rumored that like Wes is out, but it kind of means no more jobs for them.

31:29Unless Carl gets tapped to be in the city, he's really kind of saying like, you guys kind of fucked over all of our jobs and our livelihood because of this. Yeah. I mean, look at Lala. Look how upset Lala was at Ariana because Ariana had refused to film with Tom Sandoval. And Lala at the end of the day was pissed because she could no longer earn a living from the show anymore and she knew everything was going to change. And she was blaming it on Ariana, even though the show could have survived if Lala wasn't so insufferable. Exactly. And how no one wants to see her on the valley. But I think at the end of the day, that's probably an unspoken thing, too, that they're all like, you fucked with our jobs.

32:02We can't even go back to film because the critical part of all this, the show, is now broken. Yeah. I also think that's why part of why Jesse was upset, too. He was obviously very emotional at the reunion. I still maintain that he knew. One million percent. Still love him, though. I loved his all-rise comment when Sierra walks out. Like, you could never make me hate Jesse. I'm sorry. No, I know. I always have a soft spot for him. No, I know. His little, like, Jewish curls. Like, on the read-in, you could tell he put product in them. I'm like, oh, my God, he's so cute. I know. Does that make you want to cry?

32:35That's going to make me cry. Wait, so what did you think of Kyle? No, they were, like, crunchy. Stop. What did you think of Kyle when Sierra says, towards the end of part one, when she says, you know what? I think they actually, after Lindsay goes, Wes, you're so fucking good. You are so fucking good. I almost got pulled into you just now. It's amazing what you can do. I love the way Lindsay says fucking, you're so fucking good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone says she looks like an 80s soap star with that outfit, the Cruella de Vil. Yeah, she looks like an 80s villain from like Dynasty or something with like her hair.

33:13Yeah. But after she says that, She says, all you do is social climb. Once a girl no longer serves you, you drop her and you're going to do the same thing to Amanda. And then Sierra goes, actually, I think they will work out because he needs someone like Amanda who's very mute, who's weak. He can be the center of attention. And Kyle goes, that was a little hard. And then Sierra goes, she's your wife, not mine. Not mine. I will say Kyle's reaction to that was because Sierra was speaking to him. He felt attacked. Yes, he felt attacked. I don't think he was trying to look out for Amanda by saying you're being too harsh to Amanda.

33:46It was a reflection and a mirror to their relationship. She's saying Kyle was a star. Amanda was mute. Amanda was weak in the relationship with Kyle. It has nothing to do with the West and Amanda thing. And he was just triggered from his own insecurities about their relationship and how everyone was attacking their relationship from the very beginning because Kyle was always the problem. Kyle's the one who drinks too much. Kyle's the one that stays out too late. So I think it was just it was merely a mirror to his marriage with Amanda. Did you think that too? Exactly. I completely, completely agree.

34:14Yeah. Just talk about him, basically. And now here Amanda is with mini Kyle. Except worse. Wes could never be Kyle. You guys all know I'm a cookie monster. Wes wishes he could be Kyle, genuinely. Like, I'm sorry. Wes is such a loser. The second that this kind of, like, dies out and he's no longer on Bravo, no one cares about him. He's not marketable. He's not brand safe. He will have nothing to his name. And what does he do for work? He is such a fucking loser. I can't wait for him to be unemployed and poor. Like, when all this runs out, he will have nothing. And no more clout to attach himself to.

34:50No more girls that he can chase to because he's a Bravo Liberty. I cannot wait for three years. I mean, no one talks about Tom Sandoval anymore. Remember how wealthy Tom Sandoval used to be? Not wealthy, but, like, how much money he used to have? What does he do now? He's dying to be on another reality show. Wasn't he on the villains or whatever? Like, this guy will fade into oblivion so quickly, just as fast as he was able to skyrocket into fame. And I cannot wait for it. when he is no longer that guy, the New York Times it boy of Summer House. He let it go way too much to his head. And I cannot wait for the day that he's unemployed.

35:19Is he going to go back to being a sports journalist? I hope he does for his sake. By the way, this is his pinned like photo shoot with a complex like microphone in his mouth that's on his Instagram profile. I've always hated this photo. Like he's evil. He's I'm showing YouTube. He's he's evil. Like there is such darkness in his eyes. darkness yeah and the fact that he did not text he texted everyone on the cast except kj and bailey and levi and he said you know i just um i just tried to text the people who i felt it like uh affected the most yeah directly impacted um yeah and everyone was like we all got fucking roped into this and the fact that kj thought they were really good friends and stop i know it's like so it's like so upsetting and kj was so open about the fact that uh he was hospitalized in the fall for self-harm and we know that he has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder he said so um he said that sierra and mia were literally there at the hospital with him like every day which is incredible like these are real friendships not just for tv and everything west does is just for TV.

36:31So I commend KJ for that. And there have been rumors that him and Dara broke up because they have unfollowed or blocked each other on Instagram. Yes. And the photos of them, I think either on his Instagram or hers, I think it's on his, all the photos of him and Dara are now removed from his grid. I think the tagged photos still remain as of Sunday, May 31st. But yeah, there's some rumblings there. I really hope he's well and I hope Dara's well. And that sucks because I did like them together. But I was going to say that to that point of West, everything he does is for a show, you never know who he really is.

37:01I was so glad that Sierra brought that up. She's like, the crazy thing about you and why you're so fraudulent to begin with is because no one actually knows who you are. And I think we've all maybe had some people in our life like this. You want to be close to them and they're a good time. They're funny. They're charismatic. You like going out with them. But at the end of the day, when they're like by themselves, you never really know who they really are or they're kind of sketchy or they're a little bit secretive. Like I have a person in my life that I'm thinking of right now, like great person, great guy.

37:25But what are you really behind closed doors? It all feels a bit smoke and mirrors. And I'm really glad that she called that out because to your point, for Mia, Sierra, Kyle, KJ, Jesse, maybe to a degree, this is all their real life. Like it's hard to kind of differentiate between real life and reality TV because it is their lives. And I think Tom Sandoval has mentioned this too when he was confronted with like his behavior on Traitors. He's like, for me, the show and my real life, they are the same. But for Wes, there is a clear distinction between what he does behind cameras and what he does in front of the cameras.

37:56and that's why he's such a troubling person to your point that if he has a secret girlfriend and he's had a secret girlfriend for months and no one knows about it except a couple people the fact that kj was like dude you and i are boys you and i have known each other for a long time you brought me onto this show and you didn't even have the decency to text me to apologize knowing how close i am to sierra like you have no awareness about how this impacts people and like i think that's what socio uh like sorry when you're not empathetic towards other people that speaks to like something missing you know what i mean and i feel like there's a chip missing there's a chip missing the secret girlfriend off camera is the perfect example that everything he does is inauthentic everything about him on the show that's fake because what do you mean you have a secret relationship like that is just like not how reality tv works or should work right like and i think also the fact that the fact that everyone was like did you guys think that ben was dating Sabrina Bill and lying about it at the start of the summer.

38:55And Wes raises his hand. It's like, how fucking dare you? Oh, I know. That's rich coming from Wes. That is the richest hand raise I've ever seen in my life. But yeah, I really felt for KJ. And I'm so happy he opened up because I think it's really brave and vulnerable. And it really, there shouldn't be stigma around it. You can't help if something in your brain is, you know, it's off balance or whatever you want to call it. You can't help that. And I think it brings so much more awareness to people that have engaged or have thought about self-harm and knowing like if someone was able to come out of it from the other side and at least speak on it and talk about how he was able to go to recovery and go to a treatment center, that's so vulnerable.

39:30And I think quite honestly, it's difficult for a black man to do. And I think that a lot of the times like feelings for men in general are repressed. A lot of the time, they don't want to speak about their feelings. And that's why I think self-harm and suicide rates for men are higher than women because they don't talk about these things. So I I really commend KJ for using his platform in such a wide stage as this reunion is to talk on it and be like, not talk about it in a way that's shameful. He's like, yeah, I self-harmed and I was hospitalized for like a week. That's like very dark, but it's life.

40:00Yeah, and I think he's literally saving lives by talking about it because there's such stigma. It's like, break the stigma. And that's what he's doing. There's nothing shameful about any of that. It's actually just so brave and courageous for you to have identified something was wrong and then sought treatment thereafter, after you were discharged. Like, that's amazing. You know how many people would just, like, leave and continue doing the same shit? Like, it sounds like he's really trying to—and I'm not judging that either if you don't want to seek treatment. I think it's just—because there's stigma around it and costs and all that stuff.

40:28But I really love him. I love Mia. I love how they're like a family. And I think—I liked this reunion because it touched on so many different things. The Bailey and Ben dynamic, KJ's mental health, obviously the scandal, but it was balanced in such a way where like, I can't wait to hear more. I almost wish that they would release the reunion in all parts back to that. I know I need them. Kyle says in part two and three that he finds his voice. So if you're waiting for Kyle to speak up, apparently he should speak up more tonight on part two, which I am so excited for. Is there anything else about the reunion that you want to talk about?

41:00No, I think I am happy that Wes likely will no longer be on our screens because I genuinely just don't care for a dark villain like this. It's one villain to be like, I don't know, Ramona Singer or like. Someone who's fun to watch. Yeah, kind of like campy. But when it comes to this, it's almost too triggering for us girlies to watch someone like this on our screens because we've all kind of dealt with the West and it's just. Yeah, it's also like he's a street man that is clearly pandering to an audience full of women. And almost like it feels manipulative and icky. The way that he is just feels gross to watch.

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48:04So in case you guys missed it, they were in Italy at his family wedding. There's some wedding that he's at and people are trying to piece together the timeline that I guess RSVPs were due in at a certain date, February and March. So the fact that Amanda is there indicates that they were together in February. And I'm like, yeah, but you can also text people. Like it's not like good form, but you can text people like a week before and be like, hey, can I bring this person? And like sometimes it works out. So I don't think that's any definitive proof. But Amanda's wearing the same fuck-ass bun that she is wearing to the reunion at this wedding.

48:37And I love how there's someone at this family wedding that is like a cocktail or like a Bravo and cocktail fan. They like set it into Bravo and cocktails, which is so funny. Like, they think that they're safe at a family wedding and they're not. Like, it's kind of unsettling for them. Like, West truly has no one in his corner. Like, for real. Probably. Oh, really quickly. another dark energy I was going to say, speaking of Wes, is when he when it was unveiled that like his dick pics were released in Missouri when he was like, am I hard or soft? That it's like, how many DPs have you sent where you don't know which one is released?

49:10And also the fact that he was saying his computer got hacked or his phone got hacked or something, I think to make it seem like he wasn't sending out dick pics to girls. And then Amanda leans over and goes, I've never gotten one. And it's like your ex-husband, your still husband is sitting right there like how fucking awkward for everyone she is like they just like they they came in not taking this seriously at all like we said at the top like what is the strategy here they were just so like smug exactly yeah my dark energy object is honestly just this entire thing like i think that my dark energy object is west not reaching out to kj like i feel like that just shows you exactly who west is the fact that kj was a real offline friend that you brought into this universe and you didn't even have the decency to reach out we don't know that for a fact that they knew each other before oh really it could just be something they said for the show like oh we're both from missouri like let's bring them on like we don't we don't know for sure that they actually go way back let us know you guys that there's like confirmation of that but i've seen people just say yeah they were friends on the show they weren't friends before the show wait that makes i mean that makes a lot of sense because you remember when last season when amanda brought lexi and everyone was like well amanda and lexi were friends like no they weren't they met at like some influencer brand influencer event and then amanda threw her name in the ring like yeah yeah um you go you do like energy objects first you do yours wait can i do my other deo oh yeah oh i didn't even see that yes i have one more people who ride bikes in new york city with no helmets do you have a death wish and i know that helmets aren't that cool except if you are hannah wells on off campus but the fact that people ride bikes and like city bikes in New York City, that alone, I'm like, you're braver than the Marines.

50:55But then to not wear a helmet, like, do you have a death wish? It just like fucking scares me. I can't believe people like live like this, live life on the edge. You know, what's also not cool is having your head split open if you were to get in an accident. So I don't care if helmets aren't cool to wear. Please protect yourself because it will save your life. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. Okay. And then my light energy object is cave diving TikTok. It's like basically my entire for you page is summer house and then cave diving. If you guys don't know, we did a Patreon episode about the Nutty Putty cave incident.

51:31Wild episode if you've not heard of this before. Excuse me. What is his name again? John Edward Jones. Yeah, John Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good job. So, Jon Jones, a tragic, tragic incident of a cave diving fatality. But it's been more in the news lately because of the tragedy that happened in the Maldives. Did you see this? Where a group of five divers, oh my God, including a mother and a daughter, a group of five divers all perished while exploring an underwater cave system in the Maldives. And apparently they were completely unprepared with the amount of equipment they had. They were like, I want to say 160 feet down.

52:15Jesus. Or maybe that was meters. I'm so sorry. It was like so deep where they would have needed special equipment. Yeah. And they were just completely not prepared. And this just happened a couple weeks ago in the Maldives, tragically. So I feel like cave diving has been back in the news. I mean, it's always my for you page, honestly, because I find it so fascinating that people like choose to do this. Totally optional, by the way. Totally optional. The comments are always like, I hate that I have to do this next year. People are like acting like it's like something that like we all have to. I know, like we all have to do it.

52:45It's mandatory. No, we don't. It's completely optional. Yeah. It just like it makes me claustrophobic watching it, but I can't stop. Wait, speaking of, this is something that actually came up on my For You page a couple weeks ago, and I wanted to do an episode on Patreon about it, but maybe we will in the future. But basically, there was these men in the, I think it was in the Philippines or somewhere in Asia, but they were, it was not optional for them. It was part of their job. There was like military bases on top of the ocean. And there was like a pipe basically that connected one station to the next.

53:15And they were cleaning it out. And basically the pressure from the pipes was so strong that they got sucked into the pipe. And they were there, Sophie, for over 24 hours. And they perished in that pipe. And they all died except one. Yes. Of course you know. I listened to a TikTok episode. Or not TikTok episode. A podcast episode about this. Wait, yes. Literally last. It was in Trinidad and Tobago. Yes, Trinidad, yes. Listen to the podcast Swindled, you guys. It's like my favorite podcast ever. And the episode that was just released on April 29th called The Abandoned. It's the pariah diving tragedy.

53:48The pariah diving, yes. And it was basically like an oil kind of pipe. And they were all basically stuck with oil and water. Because of the pressure, yeah. And there was no way to rescue them. But also it was like it was completely on the corporation. Yes, it was like some kind of, There could have been far more drastic life-saving measures that could have occurred in order to save them before they perish. But it probably is the scariest thing. It was like one of the guys was able to like shimmy. Basically, there was one station that was like locked and sealed and another that was not. So he took his chances and found the one base that was not sealed.

54:23And he tried to save his friends. He's like, my friends are still down there. And they could not. Yeah. He was like, I will go get help. And then they like didn't do anything to save them. I highly recommend that swindled episode and just any swindled episode. Okay. Well, that wasn't really a light energy object. I know. I don't know. Do you have any that are? Of course, you and I, when I say, yeah, there's a type with a seal, Periora, and Tobago, and Trinidad. Pariah diving tragedy. And like, I love that you know. Trinidad and Tobago. Yep. Yeah. Like, I love that you knew. Obviously, it's not funny subject matter, but like the fact that you knew this already.

54:56Yeah. No, I heard that one actually last week. Yep. Oh. Okay. Huh. um my light energy object you know what actually one of our sponsors cheers they it's like a tablet that you take after you drink it actually has significantly decreased my hangover so plug for cheers um what is our let me find our code yeah it's i took it i took two pills before i went to bed last night and it like it's such a life changer it has a bunch of vitamins restore our listeners get 20 off by using code snarkbait at cheershealth.com and yes they are a sponsor but Christy says they actually work. I can't attest to them working at this point because I haven't gotten drunk in a really long time but next time I do drink, I will definitely be taking them.

55:36I have them in my pantry. All you do is just take two pills before you go to bed, drink it with some water and it just has a lot of vitamins and like minerals to reduce any symptoms of hangover. So that actually saved me last night and why I'm able to do two recordings today. So thank you guys so much for listening. In a week from Friday, we'll be in New York for our live show, x1entertainment.com slash snarkbait and then on Sunday, June 14th, we'll be in Chicago for another live show. So we're excited to see you guys there if you're coming. Patreon episodes are bonus content are dropped every Wednesday, Tuesday, Thursday, episodes ad-free on the Patreon as well.

56:11We have a sub stack, sub stack.com slash at snarkbaitpod. Our YouTube is youtube.com slash at snarkbaitpod. All of our Instagrams are in the show notes and we'll see you tomorrow on Patreon or Thursday for another episode of What's the Snark? Love you guys so much. Love you guys. Bye. Bye.

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